How To REMOVE TOXIC PEOPLE & Thoughts From Your Life! | Lindsey Stirling
And I was told just, you know, you just. don't have what it takes. You're not. good enough. I added my own word to it. is I'm not good enough yet. have to take something that was true one. time and make it true for all time. You. talk a lot about your belief in. miracles, right? And like magic almost to some. degree as well. Tell us about where that. belief came from and and what is a. miracle to you? Like what counts as a. miracle to you? That is such a great. question I've never been asked before. I. love that. So, I was raised in a home that was very.
religious. And sometimes people say that in a way. of almost they're scarred by it, but I. feel like the the religious aspects of. my life have really blessed me so much. They've made me I feel like a deeper. person. They've believed made me believe. in something greater than myself. And. you know, my. I was raised in a Mormon home. And. you know, and I really combine the. aspects of religion still in my life. I. still go to church on Sunday. I actually. teach a Sunday school class that for the.
teenagers. And And it's something that's. only bettered my life. And I think that a lot of times people. see religion as divisive. I think that. when religion is used for what it's. actually meant for, it's it's inclusive. It's it's it helps people bind together. It gives you opportunities for service. It gives you opportunities to to uplift. other people and to be uplifted when. you're the one that's weak in these like. communities of you know, as long as it's. something that, you know, my parents. always taught us that the basis of, you.
know, whether we believe this or they. believe that, what we need to always. rely on is it's love. Love is the basis. of all of it. And if you start to make. it a divide, you're missing the point of. what, you know, religion was supposed to. be. And so, for me it's it's a mixture. of religious. aspects and spirituality. Just. connecting to something greater than. myself. And I think that um. I don't know when I really started. I. just believe so strongly that um that. miracles happen all the time. And I like.
to look for miracles in my life every. day. Um and I think that it really. became even stronger for me after I lost. people I loved. Um because suddenly this. other side, you know, like I've heard my. whole life that we go somewhere after we. die. And when my best friend passed away. and shortly after that my father passed. away, um. suddenly someone I loved so much, two. people I loved so much were. And. I just started to really think, where. are they? What are they doing? Like, how.
close can they get? And I've been given. so many little miracles, for lack of a. better term, in my life that show me. that they are looking out for me. And. the more I look for that, the more I see. it. And I've had such little, you know, everything from tiny special tiny. miracles to big things that have. happened that just make me. feel powerful in a way, almost like I. imagine I walk through life with these. angels around me that are looking out. for me and whispering things in my ear. and helping me. And it makes me feel. almost like I have a superpower. I'm a.
superhero because I've got this strength. and angels from the other side. And I I. pray for help all the time from that, asking specific angels. Sometimes it's. my grandma I'm asking for help. Sometimes it's. um you know, my best friend, my dad. Sometimes I'm like, "Hey, I want to. channel Lucille Ball today. I want. Lucille Ball to be my special angel. today." You know, like I'll ask specific. angels for help. I know that might sound. weird, but it it does make me feel like. I go through life with help from the. other side, an extra power. Yeah, that's. beautiful. That's amazing. And I love.
that you talked about how miracles are. both small and big things. Absolutely. it could be the tiniest thing that. happens in your day that changes your. mood or is like a little lesson or a. piece of wisdom or whatever it is. And. then it could be something huge, like. Right. the the great successes and achievements. you've had in your life. And I think. it's beautiful when we can see miracles. in both. Right. Because sometimes we're. waiting for miracles be like these big. gigantic changes. Right. sometimes miracles aren't like that at. all. Absolutely. And like even sometimes.
my family all talks all the time about. like, "Oh, our angels are looking out. for us because we all have this thing in. common that our dad is over there. He's. one of our angels." And so we'll always. even if it's like, "Oh, I remembered. right before I left the house that I. should grab whatever it is." You know, it's like, "Oh, my angels are whispering. in my ear." You know? And like I said, I. think that whatever you look for in life. you're going to see more of. And if you. are not looking for something, yeah, you're going to be like, "Well, I never. see miracles. I never get that." But. if you It's like when you all of a.
sudden become aware of an artist, all of. a sudden you're like, "Oh, they're. everywhere.". They're on that billboard. They're on. the radio. How come I never heard of. this person before? But it's because now. they're in your peripheral view. You've. seen them. And And I think it's the same. with gratitude or with miracles or with. whatever it is you're looking for in. life. If you look for it, you'll see it. That's such a great point. The way to. test it is if you ever buy a new car or. an iPhone Right. If you ever buy a new. car or you think about buying a new car. and then you go on the road, you see. that car everywhere. And it could be a. rare car. It may be a common car,
whatever it is. But you It is exactly. that. Whatever's in your peripheral. view, you start to see it everywhere. And And I think what The point you just. made is so beautiful because I think. sometimes it's like when you're rushing. out the home and you notice you forgot. something. It's almost like, "Oh, I. forgot it." Like it's almost like a. negative feeling. Right. Rather than like, "Oh, thanks. I. remembered." Right? Like the way you're. seeing it. Right. And it's so interesting because it's. such a small thing and we do it every. day. I know I do it sometimes. It's like. I get downstairs. I'm about to get in my. car and I'm like, "Oh, forgot my. wallet." Or whatever it is.
Right. Rather than like, "Oh, I'm so glad I. remembered." Rather than getting to the. store and then. right? Yeah. Or even having a moment to be. like, "Oh, thanks." Yeah, yeah. "Thank. you, my angels." Or Or whatever it is. that you see as your, you know, "Thank. you, my brain for being smart and. remembering." Whatever you want to see. it is. I I like that. Yeah, well you. just you said it, not me. put it anyways. That's cool. You know, and one thing that I think has. helped me so much I talk about all the. time is my gratitude journal. Yes. Has. been very like transformative in my life.
in this like I didn't realize like. something so simple would make such a. big impact and it's things like that. where. automatic responses start to become more. gratitude based than negative base and. it's exactly like you said the same. exact situation where I can be like I'm. so stupid that I always get to my car. and I forget something or oh thank. heavens I remembered before I left. You. know, and it's I've noticed a shift. happen in my mind of all these little. tiny things that happen automatically. now that turn more towards an optimistic. attitude rather than a beat myself up.
attitude or a complain attitude all. because I practice every single night. for 5 minutes before I go to bed just do. do do do do like several things I'm. grateful for and it's just those little. tiny things that make. the biggest difference in life and I. often think that when we want to change. you I think sometimes I used to be like. oh gosh I've got so much work to do and. like I have to change everything in. order to be a better person but it's. like no it's tiny tiny pivots tiny tiny. tweaks like little things that are going.
to just make these huge impacts over. time and it's all about just one pivot. at a time not shifting everything. one tiny Absolutely. When did you start. your gratitude journal process? Like. when did that become a regular habit in. your life? Um 2 years ago. Oh wow. Okay, so fairly recent. So yeah, it's been a. fairly recent thing. It's been a long enough time to practice. it but it's been fairly recent in your. life. Right. Yeah, and where where did you get. introduced to it and why. why did was it just you read an article. or a book or you heard it somewhere or. was I just heard it enough I think. You.
know, I'd heard enough people say that. this is a good practice to do cuz I. listen to a lot like I like to fill my. life with positivity whether it's. reading like Brene Brown books and like. as you know on audible as I drive in my. car or listening to podcasts and I feel. like the more I fill my life with. positivity, you know, the more positive I am, obviously. And. so, this was something I just kept. hearing about, and every year I like to. pick a word. to work on. And last year, as a result. of kind of starting this gratitude. journal, I decided I'm going to dive in.
My word for last year was gratitude. And. it was really nice to And I think that's. a really good way to approach New Year's. resolutions because you can make tons of. little like goals, but they all. All my goals always focus around my word. for the year. So, it's like, this is my. big goal, and then I'm going to just. make lots of little like things that. will hopefully lead to that. And anyway, so that's when I really dove into it. I. was like, we're doing this. I'm going to. visualize it. I'm going to write it. I'm. going to be it. I love that. And then. And how many things do you do every. night? Only three. Like, it's very.
manageable. I do three when I go to bed, and then I do three when I wake up. I love that. So, it's just like the bookends of my. day. And then, you know, sometimes when. I'm really ambitious, I sit there and. I'll visualize those things, and I'll. try to like feel them actually, not just. write, then see, then actually feel, and. then. go to bed. I love it. Love the sound effect, too. That's the plan. And then, what was What. was the intention for the year of 2020? What was the word for this year? Oh, my My word for this year is actually. magic. So, it's funny that you started. off. no idea. And you start off the podcast with that.
word. I. That's crazy. I've heard that word so much in the last. month. See, I haven't. It's because I've. probably cuz I'm looking for it, and I'm. thinking about it. And the reason I. chose magic is I feel like. I don't even know how to describe it. I. feel like I used to live a little more. magically, where I made big wishes and I. dreamed big, and um you know, I didn't. even realize this, but someone was. telling me that every 8 years it's a. year of manifestation. And I guess this.
year is one of those years. And so, 8. years ago was a year of manifestation. So, I was looking back at 8 years ago. and the things that I believed I could. do, the things I wished for, the things. that were like on my radar. It is. amazing what has come full circle since. that year, and I didn't even realize it. Um but, I used to be so good at making. wishes and believing full-heartedly that. I would achieve them and that they would. come back to me. And because I believed. in good things, good things came. And. not that I'm a pessimist, I just feel.
like a little bit of that like, you. know, dreamer in me has become kind of. realistic. And so, I want to just open. it up to like living magically, like. feeling magical, feeling powerful, feeling like all those things. And so, um getting back to that that side of. myself that I think has just gotten a. little bit realistic. Yeah. If that makes sense. Yeah, that makes so. much sense. You know, you always have. like struck me as quite a magical person. in general. Oh, thank thank you. you have Yeah, yeah, yeah. Or like, I. don't know if it's because you showed me. dressed up as Dobby or.
No, I just feel like you have you have a. very magical presence. Oh, thank you. too. Like, there's there's that and. which is like, I don't I don't often say. that, so I'm not just saying it. It's. it's an interesting thing that I picked. up on. So, now that all seems to line. up. But, I love what you're saying. because I think as children, we saw and. believed in magic. Yeah. And I've always. been really into illusion and. illusionists and magic. So, people like. David Blaine or Derren Brown. And I'm. always fascinated by it. And and the. truth is, as you become older, you want.
to know how it's done. Yeah. Whereas, when you're a kid, you just. appreciate it and you just Wow, that's. mind-blowing. And then, I think it's. almost like you're like that. Like, even. when you're on a ride or you're in a. movie or whatever it is, like, your. adult mind just wants to figure out how. everything's done. Right. But, you lose. that sense of magic. You lose that sense. of spark of feeling of wonder. Yeah. And. just being allowing yourself to just be. like, "Actually, it doesn't matter. I. don't need I don't need to know. I'm I'm. allowed to experience." And I think that. that is one of the most important things.
that made my career happen is that when. I first started I you know I wrote my. first album never having written a song. before like my own composition never. like I wrote my first 12 songs or all. the 12 songs that are on my first album. that album changed my life it took me. literally across the world it went gold. in multiple countries. and I had never like written like I was. I'd been a musician my entire life but I. didn't know the rules of songwriting I.
didn't know the rules of how to market. an album I didn't I just worked my butt. off and I believed that it would happen. and. it happened and I think that's you know. looking back on my beginnings especially. a girl that was like I want to kind of. invent my own genre music of playing. electronic violin music and all. instrumental and I want to dance while I. play and I want to tour and wear fun. costumes and what Yeah everyone.
listening to that would be like yeah. This girl's insane and I know that. because I I sat in front of people and. tried to pitch what I was doing and I. showed them like videos of me doing it. in my living room like being like see. this is the vision and you know I went. to record labels and managements and no. one believed it but there was something. inside me where I believed it so. strongly cuz I just had that magic. inside of me of like no I. I know I can do this and I made big. wishes I made big plans. and when you don't know what's you like. possible and impossible times you end up.
doing the impossible Yeah and I look. back at just you know and like what what. I've gotten to do with my life and in. the last 10 years and I'm just like. it was kind of impossible but I didn't. know that and so it happened. Oh I love that Yeah Yeah what have you. found happens when. you believe something but it doesn't. necessarily happen at the right time or. the time you wanted it to actually not. the right time I take that back. Yeah. You know, it's it's almost like. that feeling of.
What I mean by you is I I agree with. you. I think that belief is so powerful, but sometimes people will say, "Well, I. have this belief, Mhm. but it's not happening, right? Or. Or maybe you've had a belief at times, but it didn't happen in the way you. thought it was going to happen. Like. so many stories I can think of. Like, which one do I tell? Whichever one Yeah, whichever one. the most um. the the biggest one I can think of was. when I first started, I wanted, you.
know, I had this dream of what I wanted. to be, what I could see, and it's what I. am now. That's what I like saw in my. head. And I the I I tried all these. different ways to get it out there, and. every door just closed in my face. And. the most public one, and the most. dramatic one was I auditioned for. America's Got Talent. Oh. This is in 2010. So, this is 10. years ago. And um you know, I made it. all the way to the round where it's like. live, Oh, wow. and it's, you know, there's. like I think it was the top, you know, semifinals, whatever. And now at this. point, America calls and they vote for.
you. It was like really exciting. And in. my mind, all I wanted to do was win this. show. I knew that if I won the show, my. life would change forever in an instant. And, you know, you you win a million. dollars, you win a Vegas residency, like. it's a big deal. And and they kind of. also drill it into your head that this. is the biggest moment of your life. Don't blow it. And so, here I was. I'd never really performed. in front of any more than like 100, 200. people. And here I am on this like live. stage with like millions of viewers.
watching. They even told me before I. stepped on the stage, "There's 11. million people tuned in right now. Good. luck." You know, what? So, I got there. I'm in the middle of my. performance, and. I hear the buzz, and that means I got. X'd. So, not only was it I mean, in that moment, I knew that I'd blown. it. Like, I'd blown the biggest moment. of my life. And I walk up to the judges. after the after I finished playing and I. got told that I sounded like rats being.
strangled. This is on live television. Like everyone I know is watching. Um. including a lot of other people. And you know, and I was told just you. know, you just don't have what it takes. You're not good enough. And I was. devastated and humiliated. Really bad. combo. And I remember I I went back. stage afterwards. Like I held it. together on stage, you know, like trying. not to cry. And then I ran into the. bathroom cuz that's the only place you. could be alone and I just sunk to the. floor and I sobbed. Like I sobbed the.
ugly cry for a long time until they came. in and found me and they're like, we're. closing up. Like you got to go. And so I you know, I packed up my little. violin and I just honestly didn't know. if I could get on a stage ever again cuz. I was just so embarrassed. Like you. know, even embarrassed in front of my. family. Even though they were like, you. were you were great. We love you. We're. proud of you. It was just. I just was like, I don't even think I. can look myself in the eye again. Um. but there's that inner voice, you know,
whether I call it my angels or whether. you call it your gut or whether you call. it intuition. Whatever you you call it, we all have it. And it told me you're. not done yet. And sometimes there that. voice will be like, it's time to try a. different road. Like there's different. things. You know, but listening to your. inner gut will always tell you. where you should go. And this time it. was it's not over yet. And you know, I. kept moving forward and I ended up. shortly after that, you know, trying. several other things and then. discovering YouTube. Which this was the.
early days of YouTube. I put some videos. out. They went quote unquote viral for. the time and it changed my life. And. looking back on it, like thank heavens I. didn't win America's Got Talent. Like. thank heavens I did not. You know, you're locked into these contracts that. are really rough. And I never would have. been able contractually to start my. YouTube channel. I would have been. locked into a record label deal. I'm now. like an independent artist, and I tour. the world. I do it on my own terms, and. I never could have done that if I had. gotten what I wanted. Yeah. And, you.
know, there I just have so many of these. experiences where sometimes what you're. fighting for and what you want and the. door you're banging on. is just not quite the right door. And you just got to turn a little bit. You got to listen to your own voice that. tells you. where to go. Is it time to try something. else? Is it time to keep pushing? Is it. time to like just accept where you're. at? Like whatever it is. Like listen to your heart because it. will never lead you astray. And maybe. it's just not the right door. Maybe it's. just not the right time. You're amazing. That was awesome. That's.
so beautiful to hear. We have We have so. much more in common than I knew. Oh, really? Yeah, I can relate to so much of what. you just said right now. And I've. probably said it in other interviews. that I've been in. Just that feeling of. what you explained of how. sometimes what you want. is not actually the best thing for you. No. And and I've been in that position. so many times, and I literally said this. to someone a couple of nights ago. I was. like, "If I got everything that I. wanted, most people wouldn't know who I am or. what I'm doing or anything. Like I would.
have just ended up in this. weird side job that I just thought was. the dream, you know, when I was trying. to break through and get people to. listen to me. And the amount of doors. that were shut on my face just in the. way you've explained where I've always. talked about YouTube was like my last. Yes. Like I've done everything. Like I. Sorry, YouTube. You were not my first. choice. It was like, you know, it was. like one of those moments of just like. every door had been shut. It was like, you know, at that time 10 media companies had told.
me that my inspirational video ideas. were not good enough and would never. make it. And I had three execs tell me I. was too old to be in media. I was 28. years old. And they're like, "You're too. old. Everyone who's trying to get into. media is 21, 22." And they're were "Just. start a blog or like, you know, just. just do that." And then everyone's like, "There's no careers in media. Like, there's no there's no And you don't even. have a communications background or a. media background or a film background.". Because that's not my background. And. so, it was just for me as well that. there was just one option. That option. was to try and do it myself. Yeah. And.
so, when I'm hearing you speak, it's I. love hearing someone else say it because. it's it's kind of like reaffirming for. me to hear it from you Yeah. that. something as big as winning America's. Got Talent, Mhm. which is huge, Which is. huge, yeah. but you're but in your experience, you've even found that that wasn't the. end of the road. Right. Not winning that. And I think that that. And And actually, I find And I've said. this to people before, sometimes it's. the people that don't win Right. that go on to do more incredible things. than the people that win. And I wonder. if it's partially because it gives you.
this little like, you know, this little And you know, for. me, I think. in that experience, looking back on it, um a lot of times people are like, "What. were they thinking? They like, they. didn't see what you had. How could they. have been so wrong?" But. they weren't necessarily wrong. Agreed. You know what I mean? Like, looking back at that video, I really. didn't perform well. Like, I was a baby. in it. I was terrified. I hadn't really. earned my stripes yet as a performer. I. was. too early on that stage in where I was.
at as like this, you know, I just come. up with this idea of dancing and playing. and I was kind of awkward at it, really. awkward at it. So, they weren't wrong. And when they said you're not good. enough, they weren't exactly wrong. They. didn't have to be mean, but um the point. is though that I added my own word to it. is, "I'm not good enough yet." And. sometimes when people give you harsh. critique, it's easy to like take it to. your soul of like, "That's who I am. I'm. not good enough and I'll never be good. enough." But no, it's. tonight you weren't good enough. Mhm. And that's okay to say. And that's okay.
to accept for yourself. Tonight, I. wasn't quite what I wanted to be. Yet. I will be better tomorrow. I'm. going to show up. I'm going to work. hard. And now I can say honestly when I. step on a stage, I've earned my stripes. I worked my butt off. Like, not only to. like, you know, create all of the social. media stuff and learn how to live in. that world, but all honestly just in my. skills and my craft. Like, I've honed. in. I still practice it. And so now it's. like, yeah, I now have earned my place. in this entertainment world. And just. because I wasn't good enough yet back.
then doesn't mean I would never be. Just. because you're not where you want to be. right now doesn't mean. you're not going to get there. And so, yeah. Yeah, you don't have to. take something that was true one time. and make it true for all time. Like, that doesn't. the way I was trying to say it. Yeah, no. No, I think about it while you. were saying it. I was like, so often we. take something that was said one time. and we're like, okay, that's true for. all time now. And that's it. Right. And and there is no reality. I love what. you just said about adding the word yet.
to the end. And and about accepting that. it's the same like. I. Do you mind if I share my version? I. don't think I've shared this before. So, I I want to share it because you're. you're inspiring me to share it. So, I was working for a company and I was. doing extremely extremely well there, but I felt that I wanted to leave to. work on my passion, which was create. videos and share these ideas that were. inspiring and motivating and I believed. would help people in their life. I. hadn't yet made anything. And the. company asked me to create my ideal job. profile.
And so I created it, which was. interviewing people like this, creating. videos that help educate and inspire and. inform people, and making content in a. way that people would feel better, be. impacted by it. And I remember speaking. to the chief marketing officer of this. company, and I was on the phone with them, and they were looking through my list of. my ideal job, and they said, "Jay, so. you want to be an influencer. And you. want to be a celebrity." And I said, "No, I That wasn't That There was no. That word was not on my list." It was.
like, "No, I want to do interviews. I. want to be a host. I want to be a. content creator. I want to edit these. videos." It was It was a And they said, "No, you want to be a celebrity or an. influencer." And I said, "Mhm, no, no, I. think you've got it all wrong. I I just. really believe that I should be making. content." They said, "Well, we don't. have space for celebrities and. influencers at this company.". And literally it was phone down moment, and I left like a week later. Now, so. many people since that day have always. said to me like, "Oh, don't you Don't. you want to go back and show them what's. happened?" And tell them and I'm like,
"I want to go back and thank them." Ah. Like, I want to go back and express. gratitude to them and be like, "Thank. you so much Yeah. for telling me that there wasn't any. space for this role." I still don't see. myself as a influencer or a celebrity. That's not the point. Right. But I'm so glad that I was told that. this role didn't exist there. There. Because if it did, I'd still be. working a full-time job having to create. content that was right for that place. Mhm. and not being able to. Same as you said, being an independent. artist getting to create content that I.
really believe in and that I really love. and that can spread all across the. world. So, anyway, I I'm grateful that. Yeah, thank you for Yes. No, I love. that. It's just this idea that the doors. that close that are devastating are. oftentimes the best thing that could. ever happen to you. Um but it's only. going to be the best thing that ever. happens to you if you keep moving. forward. If you keep taking steps and. say, "Okay, well, where Where's next?". You know, what's the next thing? Um I'm. You know, it's still believing in. yourself despite. the fact that maybe someone else didn't. Yeah. I'm inspired. Just.
Yeah, I like stuff. I'm so inspired. No, honestly, like you just like put my soul. on fire. It's amazing. It's like it. really Anyway, it's awesome. All right, tell me about We've talked about. professional failure or professional. rejection and purpose-based challenges. This is purposeful to you, the work that. you do. It's not just you're a musician. and you do it from a career point of. view. It's purposeful. Mhm. But tell us. about the personal challenges that. you've broke through as well. Like. you've battled with anorexia. Yes. And. that.
I mean, I'll let you tell me whether. that was harder or easier than a. professional challenge, but it sounds. like it's a lot harder when it's. personal and with you and your body and. your mind. I mean, tell us about how you. went through that experience and how you. overcame that. Yes, and I actually love to talk about. this because so many people, you know, to some degree or another deal with. this, whether they are diagnosably. anorexic or whether they just some days. hate their body. Like I think that a lot.
of people deal with this, and I think. depression is something that. whether it's like clinical depression or. chemical or whether it's just. situational. Like everybody deals with. that at times of their life, and so I. think it's something that's so important. to talk about and like learn. for yourself and understand how you go. through these phases. And you know, I. realized when I was in college, I was. you know, in my I think the middle of. college when I finally came to. realizing, oh my gosh, I'm anorexic. And.
it took a while to come to that. realization because I had been depressed. for a really long time, and. it happened so slowly that it just. consumed me. And I would have defended. it forever being like, no, I'm just. really healthy because I was exercising. all the time and I was eating like a. bunny. Like I was eating all like. vegetables and you know, so I would have. defended it forever that no, I'm just. healthy, but I finally had this moment. where I realized. that I had sacrificed everything for. this. And it happened the realization. for me happened in the most simple.
moment, and it makes me really. emotional, but my sister's my best. friend. And she was my roommate at the time, and. all of our roommates, we were all really. close, really good friends, and I heard. them all laughing in the other room and. just talking. Someone was telling a. funny story about a bad date or. something, and they were all laughing, but I just didn't even have the energy. to get off my bed to go in and join. because I just and I also just thought. like they wouldn't even want me to join. I just was so depressed. And then my. sister came in the room and sat on her. bed and I looked at her and thought,
"I don't know when we became strangers, but I don't I don't even know how to. talk to her anymore." And it was because. I had gotten so consumed in my mind. by like anorexia is fully consuming. All. you think about is yourself. All you. think about is your next meal. All you. think about is what you look like. Like. it's um it becomes a very selfish. disease that is very isolating and it's. not like you're selfish in the terms of. like, "Oh, I'm awesome." Like it's. selfish in the terms of, "All you can. worry about is yourself because you're. so consumed." Um.
and so I didn't even realize, but I was. like, "I don't remember the last time we. had like a real conversation or laughed. or talked together." And that gave me. the courage to be like, "Something is. wrong. Something is definitely wrong in. here and I need to figure it out." And. so I started going to therapy um cuz I. was finally willing to fight for. happiness again. I realized I was sad. and you know, and you know, it took me. about two years to fully come out of. this first cycle of like.
depression and pull out of it and come. out of anorexia and become like, "Oh my. gosh, I think I'm healthy." And you. know, since then I I find it being like. um. you know, it's going to always be a part. of my life in a weird way. I don't know. how else to say it, but it's very much. in the background. It's something I. don't deal with on a regular day-to-day. basis. It but sometimes when I'm like stressed. or when I'm worried about something or. when I'm over like exhausted, that's. when. it thinks it has room to come back and.
it tries to sneak back into my life. And. now it's to the point where rather than. taking two years to come out of it, now. it's like, "Oh, I recognize you. and you're not welcome here. Like I. you're not a part of my life." And um. and I I really one of the most helpful. books I ever read for my anorexia was a. book called Life Without Ed, and it's. where this woman personified her eating. disorder and she talked to it, and she. would say she would have conversations. with it and talk sense to it because you. realize there's a dialogue in your mind. and it tells you sometimes really nasty.
things, and to her that was not her. That was Ed. It was her eating disorder. And so, I started to do that. I started. to see these horrible thoughts in my. mind as they're not me. Anorexia is not. who I am. It's like this little like. thing that's come into my life and it's. not welcome. And so, I constantly remind. it to leave. And when I like if I catch. see a picture of myself and have that. thought of like, "Oh my gosh, like I. look huge." Or if I catch myself in a. mirror and think something nasty, I am. now immediately.
tell that, "You're not welcome.". We don't talk to ourselves like that. I. don't entertain those thoughts. And then. I'll say something nice to myself. Like, "I am strong." Like there are so many. wonderful things about my body. Like I'm. healthy, I'm strong, I can dance, I like. to run. Like I, you know, um and so, it's choosing what I am going to let. stay now. And also, um. I think that there there's it's. sometimes takes work. And we don't. always put that into play. We all know. it takes work to be healthy and to eat. right and to exercise and take care of.
our bodies, but what about our minds? And how much attention do we give to the. happiness and being positive? And you. know, that's why I write my gratitude. journal. All these like little practices. I have in my life. And then I think the. biggest one for me is just listening to. that voice. And when it says something. that's unfair, I learned years ago when. I was going through therapy and. anorexia, you know, to. not entertain the bad. Like I don't do that. And it's very. empowering to say that, to stop your own. thought and be like, "Nope.". It's not who I am. Self-love, you know? Yeah, I know.
That's great. I I love the way you've. broken down the process for all of us. And thank you for the recommendations on. the books, too. It's always I know the. audience loves hearing what books help. and work. And so, if anyone's struggling. with that in particular, it sounds like. a fantastic book that. Really is. really helps you understand the voices. in your mind and your head and. recognizing which ones are not you. That's 100% true. Yeah. That's 100% true. It's always like a bad. friend. I think it was Gandhi who said. um. Don't let anyone walk through your mind. with their dirty feet. Yeah. And it's almost like sometimes it's your.
dirty feet or or another thing that is. inside of you. It's almost doing it to. yourself. Yeah. Uh but you're so right that that. negative voice in our heads is not us. It's not us. friends with a bad you know, it's like. being friends with a negative influence. and Absolutely. spending so much time with them, it. sounds like your voice now. Yeah. So, I think that's a really important. lesson. Well, it's interesting how. it's like we've written these stories. and these beliefs in our mind about who. we are and I finally came to the. realization that if I wrote this story.
and became this once upon time somewhere. along the line, I started to believe. these things. I started to write this. and then I reinforced it every day in my. mind. I rewrite the story every day. And I punish myself over and over and. over again for a belief that I wrote. once upon a time. And so, if I wrote it. once and if I believe it now. then I can write a new one. Yeah. change it. It's going to take time. because our minds love familiarity even. if it's negative and it you know, that's. just a pattern. Our minds run on. patterns and so, it's like okay, start. to break the pattern. It's going to take.
time. It took me two years the first. time because I was pretty deeply. entrenched in a very unhealthy, very, very trapped pattern. You know, I'm not. saying it's going to take everybody two. years, but if it does, that's okay. Don't look at yourself today and think. this is who you are forever because I. can't even tell you what a different. person I am now. Like you you called me. magical. In college no one would have. called me magical in that time. My. roommates would have been Lindsay's. really tired. She's very you know, she's. she's nice, but I just didn't have the. energy to be like out there for other.
people and be kind and be as loving. because I was so trapped in this like. tornado inside myself. And. I'm like if I could change from that. person to like where I am now, where I. you know, I I. I love to share with people. I I. I feel like anyone can do it. This is a. process that. start where you are today, start to love. yourself, start to be kind yourself, start to fill your life with more and. more positivity. And you can get to be you can get to. anywhere you want. Whether it's like I.
said, my journey of like getting off. America's Got Talent having to work step. by step to like become the violinist I. am now, or whether it's looking in the. mirror and being able to say like you're. beautiful to yourself. Like. start where you're at, but you can get. there. I honestly believe that anyone. can be there. Yeah, I And it takes work still. Like I. It's not like I, you know, I still go. through times like last weekend. I had a. real. depressed weekend. I was like, "Dang it. Like I'm in a funk. I'm in a depressed. stage and I don't like being here, but I.
recognize now. that that's okay. It's not who I am. It's a passing experience. And I think. too often we like attach ourselves and. our definition of self to like I'm. depressed. Like this is me. No, it's not. me. It's a phase. It's like the cycle of the. moon. Sometimes the moon's covered with. shadow. Sometimes it's bright. It. doesn't mean it's not still there just. cuz you can't see it. And I sometimes. get a little covered up. Yeah. And I just have to like go to all. my things. Like call my therapist, do. all the things that I know will help me. I I now take ballroom dance lessons. That really helps me.
pull out of these like, you know, I. called my teacher. I was like, "Actually, can we have an emergency. ballroom lesson today because I'm just. feeling down." You know, and I think. it's really important to learn like what. are the kind of things that work for. you? And don't attach your worth and. your definition to how you feel in a. moment cuz they come and go. Absolutely. Just like the weather. Just cuz it's. rainy outside, you know, like oh, I am. now rain. Right? It's not like rainy. inside. And same with the sun. And. you're so right about having something. though. And I feel movement is such a. big part of it. Like you I mean, ballroom dancing for you, you You.
whatever it is for you. It's like I feel. movement is always a powerful thing to. add to that space to get you out of your. head. I always find that whether some. people like running and it is and that's. what I mean, like I love this example of. ballroom dancing because it doesn't have. to be exercise in the traditional sense. Even though we know exercise is great. for breaking through our depression. patterns and negative patterns. It's. like exercise can be fun. It can be a. sport, it can be dance, it can be so. many other things. So, don't feel bound. to just exercise. Well, and I love that. you said one time on one of your. podcasts that your wife will dance every.
day. She does it every day. And I was like, that's amazing. Like. nothing break and And she will say off. beat. That's what she learned. Off beat. and. not great. You don't have to be Derek Hough in. order to dance, you know, or Julianne. I. love them both and they're they're like. Yeah, we love them. amazing. But, you. don't have to be like that in order to. like enjoy movement and there's. something about. same thing. Even Julianne and Derek. would say exactly as you We had Julianne. on the podcast. Yes. And so, she said the exact same. exact thing. She was just like, yeah, like you don't have She wants people to.
just move their body naturally. Yeah, I. love that. And and tell us about. obviously you mentioned it earlier as. well, like losing your best friend and. your father like close around the same. sort of time. Those sound like. like very formative experiences, like. very transformative experiences that. you know, you you seem to have processed. in a positive way where you know that. they're still in your life and they're. still benefiting you. What else is. What was it like going through that loss.
and how were you able to use it as a. this now not just feeling, but this. genuine reality that you experienced. with them and still being involved in. your life? Yeah, you know, it was a. it was so formative in a way because I. feel like I I mean, I've I've never lost. anyone before that and I feel like it. gave me this. very strong empathy that I never had. before. Where now I can I just feel. things a little deeper. Honestly, like.
my emotions now are always like right up. to my eyeballs. I'm like a a second away. from crying all the time. Not in a bad. way, just like whether I'm watching a. horse movie, you know, and like the race. horse is about to win, like, "Oh my. gosh, tears will flood." Or whether like. someone's telling me an emotional story. or like I cry on stage all the time. Like, just telling my fans I love them, I. start to cry. You know, but I just feel things like. I've always been a very feely person cuz. I'm an artist, but like it's there's a. depth to it now. And I think that um.
going through hard things can either. give you like um you know, they can. either make you harder and tougher or. they can make you stronger, you know, and I just think that sometimes. we feel like these hard things like they. harden us, but um I almost feel like it. made me softer. going through this. Um and uh. and I honestly think it was my religious. beliefs and my spirituality that pulled. me through it and um turning to that. rather than turning to anger. And I.
remember actually one of the most. beautiful moments of my life was um. as my we were as my sisters my mom and I. and with my whole family were sitting. around my dad's um hospital bed as we. knew that it was his like last moments, you know, we weren't sure when he was. going to go. We weren't sure if he could. hear us or not. Um but he had quite a. long battle with cancer that was really. hard to watch. And so as he's laying in. this bed not looking like my dad.
anymore, um we sat there and we were. just in silence like not knowing what to. say. And then one of my sisters was. like, "You know what? Let's tell stories. about dad. Let's tell like some of our. favorite moments." And we just sat there. and they started a little like um. I remember one time and then before you. know it we were laughing and we were. crying and we're all holding hands as. we're telling these stories and. in that moment this shift happened in me. where I went from this bitterness of.
like how could this happen to my dad. this smart strong like the best man I. know funny like um he made me who I am. and rather than being angry at what had. happened to him and at what I was losing. I just became so grateful. for what I had. which was like a lifetime of memories of. the most amazing father. and the most amazing family that I still. had and then also that I will always.
still have my dad because I believe he's. with me and he can help me now in ways. that he never could have when he was in. his mortal body like he can really be. there to comfort me at any time and I. really think that that was one of the. biggest shifts that got me through this. experience was realizing to have. gratitude for what I. have not only had what I have um rather. than the things we've lost because. abundance. and lack of abundance exists around all. of us.
all the time whether you're the you know. billionaires of the world or whether you. know you live somewhere remote in a hut. like we all have abundance and we all. have lack of abundance and it's up to us. to choose where we are going to look. because at the end of the day we all. just want joy we all just want happiness. and um what matters. than like sharing goodness sharing. gratitude sharing love and giving. yourself the the ability to have. self-love and you know forget all the. labels and the judgment and the money.
and the like who who is it that decided. we're all supposed to look a certain way. who's it that decided that money equals. happiness cuz it doesn't you know who's. it that decided that success makes you. better than somebody else it doesn't. like all these things that sometimes. trap our minds into feeling like we're. supposed to be a certain way, are their. prisons. You know, and as soon as you. can stop all those those voices and. those opinions and just realize like. what is it that I want to be? I just. want to be grateful. I just want to. love. And that was a huge shift that. happened in me and it happened, you.
know, moments before my dad passed away. and it's to this day one of the most. transformative. just moments I've ever had. Thank you so much for sharing that, by. the way. That's it's. it's so like heartwarming to hear you. express everything through gratitude. Like you can tell how much you've. processed everything through gratitude. even the toughest moments of any one of. our lives. Like. for so, you know, for anyone who's lost. someone in any way, anyone who's. listening or watching right now, you.
know that it's not easy to do that, but. the fact that you've been able to fuel. every. situation in your life with gratitude is. an amazing lesson for all of us all for. all of us. Like it's amazing. It's. really, really beautiful and it's such a. such a wonderful reminder for us all to. follow that example in all of our. different challenges and situations in. life and you're just saying there that. you know, it's all about being joyful. and etc. And like this new album that. you've made, Artemis, is obviously you. say it's one of the first albums that.
you've recorded from a place of joy. Yeah. As opposed to recording it, you know, from a place of pain or challenge or. struggle. That as an artist, I mean, that almost. sounds harder sometimes. Isn't it? Isn't. it harder? Like It's sometimes harder. Yeah, yeah, tell us about how that was. different. Yeah, people always say that, you know, artists make the best music through pain. or the best like films through pain and. I was like, "Oh, that's kind of horrible. that we're supposed we have to. experience pain in order to make good. art." And but to be honest, like you.
know, whenever I go to a like start a. new album or a new phase, it's like, "Okay, I think where am I at? What am I. feeling?" And you know, my Brave Enough. album, which was the previous one, was. written about loss. It was right after. and like during like all of this that I. wrote that album, and I drew from hard. emotions. Um, and it was a good it was a. good album. However, I think that this. album, Artemis, I think it's my best album I've ever. done. And it was really exciting when I. like went to think about, "Okay, where.
am I at? What am I drawing from?" And I. got thought, "I'm in a place of joy. Like, this is. awesome. I get to write about like being. in that place, not just hoping to be in. that place and like the strive to get. there, but like I get to write about. it." And I called the album Artemis. because. Artemis is the goddess of the moon. And I've really come to appreciate this. whole analogy of what the moon. represents to me now that I mentioned it. earlier just a briefly, but that the. moon goes through phases. Sometimes it's.
bright and it lights up the whole night. Like, you can literally walk by the. light of the moon. Other times it's. covered in shadow and you can't even see. it. And, you know, after my best friend. Gabi died and my dad died, I was in a a. little bit of a shadow for about 2. years. Like, I was in quite this like. you know, a little bit of a situational. depression. And I had kind of accepted. that like, "You know what? I think loss. changes you and I think this is the new. me and I just need to get used to her.".
That rose-tinted glasses version of. myself, that kind of magical person, I. think she's gone. And that, you know, okay, this is me. And then after about 2 years, I just. felt myself come back. It's like the. eclipse was over and I was like, "Oh my. gosh, it's not that I was gone. I was. just. covered up by a little bit of shadow.". And that's okay. And that's why I always. like now think about like depression and. all these things of like they're just, you know, or or hard weekend, they're. not who you are. They're passing phases,
whether it lasts 2 years because I lost. the most important people of my life or. whether it's you know, just for some. reason you're having a really hard time. Um, it doesn't matter. They're not who. you are. And if you keep working on. yourself and doing the things that you. know help, whether it's dancing in your. living room, or whether it's going to. therapy, or um, writing your gratitude. journal. Just like doing those things, if you keep working on yourself and. living with hope, you will find your. full light again, just like the moon. always returns to its full light. And. that's what the this album Artemis kind.
of was all about. It was about coming to. full light and expressing that. And um, and it was also really fun cuz I wrote a. comic book like as a partner piece to. the album. And my I'm actually still. working on um, I the first issue's out, but I'm working it's a six series comic. But it was so fun to write like inspired. by characters and the theme and like, you know, this like story that um, I got. to develop. I think it's really. important as an artist or as a just a. person, you know, sometimes we feel like. we're running in a hamster wheel a. little bit. It's like, okay, I mean, I.
like my hamster wheel and all, but like. I've done this like this was my fifth. album. So, I was like, how can I make my my. hamster wheel feel slightly new, you. know, and you know, it's not like I had. to just be like, I'm done with music and. I'm trying something else. It's like, no, I just need a slight shift to make. this feel fresh. And for me, that did it. for me. Just having a story, a comic. book, and like writing a music almost as. if it's a score for the comic book, just. made it all feel really fresh and fun. Yeah, that sounds so innovative. And I. love the analogy of the moon because for.
me it's like that's such a beautiful way. of looking at life. Like you don't judge. the moon every day. Right. go, "Oh no, it's a half moon today." Or. like, "Oh no, it's covered today." Or. like, "Oh no, it's full today." It's. like, you realize that it goes through. phases. Right. the same with ourselves. Like Mhm. we're. going to go through phases and you're. going to you're going to be full of. light one day and one day you're not and. it's going to come back around and And. it's okay. Every phase is okay. is okay and every phase is still. beautiful and useful and has a purpose. I don't I it would be.
possible for the climate for the moon to. shine the same every day. Like I don't I. don't actually think it would be. scientifically possible for that to be a. good thing because of Yeah, where it's. going to shine and movement when you. look at how the design of the universe. is so perfect that Right. If you If you. took it out of alignment of the way it. is, actually it wouldn't be that way. Right. Well, and as you were saying, like some of the. shadowy moments of your life, you know, metaphorically, they're the ones that. taught you what you need to know. They're the ones that give you that gave. me empathy. They're the ones that made. me really dig my heels in and be like,
"I'm going to work really hard so no one. ever tells me I sound like a drowned rat. again." Like, you know, whatever those. shadow moments are, they're important in. your phases, too. Um and they make you. really appreciate like when you do get. to fully shine, you know? And And also, I just like that even when the moon is. half covered up, it's still shining. Still shining. It doesn't give up just because it's, you know, halfway covered. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And shines in the. areas that it can. It shines wherever it. can. Yeah. And we can do the same thing,
and we can all bring light to darkness. That was another thing I love about the. moon. The fact that it's so brave and it. faces the night whether it's a full moon. and it's like, "I'm powerful." Or. whether it's a sliver, it still shows up. to give all the light it can in the. darkness. Yeah. Wow, so much so many. beautiful lessons from the moon. I know, I love the moon. Yeah, it's special. Yeah, you've you've. I'm never going to look at a moon the. same way ever again. Me neither. Yeah, yeah, it's amazing. No, it's so beautiful. And I loved what. you did about innovation. I love that. that even though this is your fifth. album, it's not like, "Oh, and now I've. done music and I played the violin, and.
maybe I'm going to go learn how to play. another instrument, or maybe we're going. to And I'm going to be a dancer." Or And. And there's nothing wrong if you did. that. Nothing wrong with any of that, but it's interesting to see how you can. innovate in your space. Yeah. And actually your creativity comes to. life. And you innovated a virtual. concert, right? Like that. Yeah, tell tell us about that. That. sounds like a It was so crazy. They had. me in this whole like suit with all. these little sensors all over them. It's. like, um and they created these um these. really cool worlds for me to perform in. I was like a a Lindsey avatar of myself.
So, I got to actually design it to be. like my little Artemis character, you. know, that I that I made for the comic. book. And I got to perform, um, online. as this avatar in this like futuristic. cool world with, you know, and it's fun. because, you know, in a live show I. can't be like, "Let me spin through. pedals and have them like float around. me and like let's have lightning go to. the beat of the music." But like, you. know, whatever we wanted we could make. it happen cuz it was a virtual world. Um, and it was just really fun to have. fans live all over the world. They were.
tuning in from, you know, whether it was. like some from Russia, some from South. America, you know, some from LA. And it. was just like all over the place. And. you know, getting to have that moment. together was really just different. And. also it was really funny because, you. know, I've done a lot of shows in my. life now at this point. And doing a like. an actual concert to like there was like. hundreds of thousands of people. watching. But yet I'd finish a song and. it was just like six people in the room. with me that were like, You know, it's like that energy of a.
concert. I kept having to remind myself. like, "Oh yeah, all those little I could. see the dots of the people that were in. there watching." Like, "Those are all. people. They're all here even though I. can't see them. I can't feel their. energy.". Yeah, they're they're hopefully clapping. at home. You know, but. just it's my manager and some of the. like the engineers like, "Yay!". I love it. Yeah. That's I love I love. the innovation of it. I think that's. awesome. I I'm excited to see what you. end up doing with like virtual reality. or augmented reality or like are you. into all that kind of stuff or like. It's it's fascinating. It's really.
interesting to me. So, I, you know, it. is fun to think like, "What is the next. step for that? Like how can, you know, how can music more be incorporated into. that world?" And you know, who knows? Yeah, I think experiences for audiences. are just so powerful and technology. allows us to touch so many people that. could never be in the room or could. never travel or You know, I've been. thinking about this a lot lately. About, you know, just dealing with this thought. in my mind of like. Social media provides such an.
opportunity to connect across the world. and do so much good. It also, as we. know, has such a power to do like. not good. And, you know, we find ourselves. sometimes trapped in these comparison. like, you know, situations or like, you. know, feeling bad about ourselves. because everybody's showing their lives. through filters and it seems real but. it's not. And I've really been thinking. a lot lately. I'm like, am I a part of. the problem of social media or am I a. part of the good? And I think the answer.
for me, after thinking about it more, is. like, okay, I think I do feed some of. the problem because I, you know, I think. I do some of the a lot of the good. I. try. But I was like, you know what? I'm. sure my fans look at my pictures that. are like from photo shoots or like my. polished music videos when I like. took hours, literally hours to get. ready. Like my hair, my makeup, body. spray, like, you know, I like look good. when I show up on set. Your music video. is amazing. Thank you. I I love making my videos and.
I'm like, oh my gosh, I'm sure people. compare themselves the same way I. compare myself to people's filters. And. that's not to say art is art. And you. know, this is kind of the realization. I've come to. It's okay. Like I love. makeup. I love playing with costumes and. fun looks and expressing myself. artistically in that. However, if I'm. going to do that, I need to be okay with the other side. I. need, you know, for me. And so I've. realized I've I've made this new goal of. trying to just showcase some unfiltered.
life online. And that's a little. vulnerable for me because I don't have. flawless skin. I still get like, I'm how. 33? I still get breakouts. Like what? Everyone lied to me and said that was a. teenager thing and it never got left. behind. But, you know, just showcasing. and realizing that like yeah, it's fun. to get dressed up. It's fun to do all. that artistic stuff, but it's only fun. if you're okay without it. I think one. of my favorite quotes is from Cool. Runnings where the coach says, you know,
a gold medal is a wonderful thing, but. if you're not enough without it, you'll. never be enough with it. And so I I I love that movie. Yeah, I love that movie. And so I've. really been trying to make sure like if. I'm going to do all this other stuff, I. have to balance it. Like life has to be. balanced. And if because I also get used. to seeing myself with these filters, whether it's like the funny filter with. bunny ears that makes your skin flawless. and like. or whether it's like looking at myself. through the lens of a music video, you. know, I need to be okay looking at. myself in the mirror and saying I'm just.
as beautiful without all of that and and. it's funny cuz when I do post like that, you know, my fans all say that's when. I'm the most beautiful. And I need to I. need to believe that and also I just. want them to see that like I have frizzy. crazy hair and acne and like all of. that. Like so I've been thinking a lot. about that lately of trying to make sure. I'm not a part of the problem of social. media and I, you know, and it's I don't. know, it's been a really interesting. balance over the last like 2 months to. try to like gauge for myself personally.
and for my fans. Yeah, no, absolutely. And I I I really respect that. I think I. think it takes a lot of. Because there's there's two sides to it. as well and and this is kind of like the. balance that you're saying of like we. also don't want people to play down. their lives Right. we all settle for less. Right. I mean? It's like you want to be. creative and you want to bring your art. and you want to do body and you want to. look and it's not like you're I think. that's the point that you're not saying, "Oh, I look beautiful here and I don't. look beautiful here." That's what we.
don't want, but we also don't want. people to just settle and not be. extravagant and not play for that. because there's art and beauty in that. as well. Yes. And and I almost feel like we don't want. to create a culture, just as we don't. want to create a culture that just. celebrates filters, we definitely don't. We also don't want to be a culture that. only accepts. that only accepts and I when I'm saying. average, I don't mean beauty or how you. look, but it's like creativity or. passion or purpose, right? It's like. that. It's that balance and it's like, you.
know, I'm sure sometimes I'll go. although too far and then I'll be like, oh, I went too far and then I'll go to, you know, it's it's probably going to be. an ever fluxing, you know, balance, but. like I said, it's like it's just as much. for me as it is for anyone else. It's. like because I find myself comparing to. other people's filters and we all do. So, it's like, well, then I have to be really okay with. myself without the filter so that I can. love being that person that is behind. the camera. Like because if I love who's. underneath all of that, then it's going.
to be all the more enjoyable to be like. dressed up with antlers on and in this. crazy dress and, you know, as long as. I'm okay with without all of it. Yeah, absolutely. Yeah. Just something I've. been thinking about a lot lately. I love it. Yeah. And I think. we need to work, you know, that's I. think that's going to be something we're. all going to get right and wrong every. day. It's it's it's a process for all of. us. Figuring it out. Yeah, figuring it out. Like it's the same for me. It's like I. want to give as much content to remind. people of the work we need to do and at. the same time give enough content that. also says celebrate who you are and it's.
like. Right. it's the both, right? Because you need. to take a pause. There are days where. I'm like, I just need to celebrate and I. need to be really grateful for a man. There are like, no, I need to start. working now. You know, it's and you need. both and it's never right to just do. either or because if you just celebrated. all day, you'd just be complacent. And. if you just work hard tough love with. yourself every day, you'd get worn out. That's the biggest challenge of life is. balance. Like and I guess like kind of. like you said, it's just. being able to listen to yourself and. know what you need. What is it time to.
do? Is it time to like hit the pavement. run or is it a self-care day where I. just got to take care of myself and say. it's okay, you're good, like Yeah. Or is. it a tough love day where it's like get. up and go? I don't know. It's just it's. this ever fluxing, like ever figuring it. out, and that's so funny the way you put. it of like do I tell people to like love. themselves and like celebrate or go? Yeah, yeah, yeah, exactly, exactly. Thank you so much for watching that. video. If you enjoyed it, here's another.
one I think you'll love. If you're. listening to this and you're in an. unhappy situation, I get it. I get how. hard it is. One of the things that can. help is to say this demon would come out. with another person, too.
