DO THIS To Cure Your LAZINESS TODAY (Eye Opening Speech)| David Goggins & Jay Shetty

Go in there. Go into the suffering. Go. into the pain of your life and say, "Why. did this suck for me so bad? Why am I afraid of all this stuff?". Yeah. Cuz the only way you're going to. fix yourself is to go all the way back. to the beginning, to your childhood. Cuz. that's where everything starts. And. that's what's blocking most of all of. us. Yeah. All of us. Everybody thinks. it's my God, like my marriage is messed. up, this is messed up. You have to go back to fix all your. problems. It all starts from the root. Everyone, thank you so much for coming.

back. I've just spent about an under an. hour with our next guest, and I'm so. excited to introduce you to him. He's. been called the world's strongest man, the world's toughest man, the world's. fittest man. He's consistently invited. suffering and discomfort into his life. to grow further. He's someone with a. phenomenal background. He's a former. Navy SEAL and ultramarathon runner, a. triathlete. And today we're going to. dive into his new book, which is called. Can't Hurt Me, about mastering your mind.

and defying the odds. His name is David. Goggins. David, thank you so much for. being here. I appreciate it, man. Thanks for having. me. No, I'm so grateful, honestly, and. I'm so glad we were just talking about. it. I'm so glad that we got a moment to. connect before, because I think this. conversation would have been very. different. have. It would have. I uh. I I merely walked in and um you know, I. sometimes look at people and what they. have and you know, I'm like, "Oh, here. we go. Here we go again." But you know, I got a chance to know you, know know a. little bit about your backstory, where.

you come from, and know that uh. we have some similar, you know, you. know, just like a mentality of of of how. to come up. So, it's nice. Absolutely, man. I think what you put yourself. through, and I don't say this anyway, I'm not I'm. not saying that I can say I've had the. same experience at all. Right. feel we've been wanting to challenge our. minds. Right. in the same ways. 100%. And and that excites me. That that. desire, that hunger, even though we we. different paths. Right. I don't I could. have ever chosen your path. That that we chose different paths, but.

we were testing the same parts of. ourselves. Right. The mind is the one. thing that we don't test enough. A lot of us are are so afraid of that of. that test and that's the real test. That's where the real growth comes from. is is the mind. So Absolutely, man. Absolutely. So I've had a beautiful. fortune of actually diving into this. book this weekend. Great. And I have to say and and I'm. saying this honestly. So I was just. telling you this earlier. 2017 to 2018 I. read a book a day. I read 365 books in a. year. I made a video about the books I.

read and how I did that. And then 2018. to 2019 this year I read a book a week. Right. And one of the things I've. struggled with recently and I'm saying. this as a compliment to you. Right. Right. is that it is so hard to. read a book that isn't an article or. isn't an Instagram caption or isn't a. short video because we're living in a. world where constantly consuming. content. Right. When I picked up your book, the. thing I loved about it is the amount of. effort that you've been through to give. us I'm sure this was suffering too like.

writing this book. The amount of effort. that you've been through to actually. give us detail Right. on your life. And and I just want to start there about. the process of writing the book because. I feel what you've done what a lot of. authors have missed out on recently is. you've gone a step further Right. to. really do self-work to write the book. So in that book is is a raw very um. humbling version of David Goggins. You. know, I went down to the to the.

grassroots to the soil to the sewer of. my life. It's the It's the stuff that we don't. want to talk about. It's the stuff that. we don't want that person next to you in. line knowing. And I had to have the courage to uh say. it out loud to people. And so I was able to really go back and. and put so much detail in in my story. was we all have different things in our. life that have scarred us. We want to. act like those scars don't exist. So, those scars, like you know, if you go. out and you get cut, that scar is going. to be there on your arm. You can go down.

and look at that cut and say, "Oh." Or. or or that scar and say, "Oh, that. happened from you know, I was in the. kitchen." Or whatever happened. We have the same thing on our brain. I've all these scars on my brain from. growing up, from, you know, being. abused, from suffering through life, from having a learning disability, from. stuttering, from having a just a really. bad childhood. And so, all those. memories either cut open that scar. and go into it. And that was a hard. process for me to do. Not only was that.

a hard process for me to do, for me to. have the courage to share that with. people, you know, cuz I'm the so-called. toughest man on the planet, so they. think. So, for me to break open that. shell and and tell people, "Hey, that wasn't always me." You know, it's. it's it's hard to do, you know? It's. hard to do. So, it was it was a it was a. tough process. Yeah, absolutely, man. I'm so glad you did peel that back. Yeah, it was hard. so easy to live that title. Oh, yeah. But when you break the fact. that you had the courage to break down. that title, Right. to actually lay it out, it just it's. going to open up the door for so many.

more people. Well, I had to do it. because, you know, throughout this journey, I started. becoming this new person. I started. creating this new person. People started. seeing me as this. amazing superhero. In the back of my mind, I knew the real. story. And I was like, "Man, one day you. have to really share it." And I'm like, "Man, but you have the courage.". You know, like it's great to live right. here. I've established this. People. think you're great. Just stay here. Don't go back. Let's not go back. But.

the only way you can help people out is. let them know that this is possible. So, I had to go back and say, "This is where I come from." Yeah. And where I come from is hell. Absolutely. And now, when you go back, you talk about how your childhood was a. nightmare. Right. Tell us about some some defining moments. in your childhood that actually framed. that experience to being a nightmare. Well, my dad was a person that um he was. an alcoholic. He was really big on being a powerful. man. And he had two different sides to him.

He had a side that once he left our. house, so our house was the dungeon. No one knew what No one knew anything. about what you know, about the inside. that house. The inside that house was. was horrible. It was evil, you know, like the evil monster came out to play. But once left that house, he was the nicest person on the planet. So no one knew, you know, who this guy. was. So um. the scarring started to happen inside. the dungeon. And my dad didn't really. believe in us going to school. He had a.

family business and the family business. was a skating rink and also a bar. So my dad owned It was called the. Vermilion Room was the bar and the. skating rink was called Skateland. So from the time I was able to walk, I was working that that that that that. that I'm skating rink. And I worked it. from like 9:00 at night until like 12:00. in you know, in the morning pretty much. That's what we did. You know, I'm three. I you know, I'm 4 years old scraping gum. off the off the skating rink floor, doing stuff like that. Me and my.

brother, my mom. Once the skating rink was shut down, the. bar would open up. The bar would be open from like midnight. to like 4:00 in the morning, 3:00 in the. morning. Once that closed down, we go. upstairs and clean the bar. So by the time you work like this, you. know, I'm a young kid. It's time to go. to school. So most time we didn't go to. school. So we missed school a lot, but. thank God for me, I didn't like school. anyway. With a learning disability, with. a stutter, you know, I had white. splotches all over my skin from being.

stressed out. Um hair, you know, patches. of hair falling out at a young age. And once my dad got drunk, that's when. the nightmare began. And you know, he'd get drunk, he'd get. violent. And um we got beatings quite. regularly. You know, probably at least. once or twice a week. And and the beatings weren't like, "Hey, I'm going to give you a whipping cuz you. did something wrong." It was like, "Hey, I don't feel good today.". And you'd get beat for that. And my mom got a lot of beatings and it. would just trickle down to me and my.

brother. So, that that foundation of. life that I didn't have, that's how it started off for me and it. progressively got worse. So, when you. have a horrible foundation, it's like. building a house on a [ __ ] up. foundation. This is what you're going to. get. You know, any kind of earthquake or. something happen, the house is going to. go down. Sometimes it don't you know, it. don't even take an earthquake. Takes a little windstorm. So, that was. me. I was just a little windstorm away. from breaking. Yeah. All the time. A. windstorm away from breaking, but no one. knew it.

I walked around like I was a pillar of. strength at a young age. But, that. internal conversation you're having back. here as this weak little kid, very. afraid. And um, I think that's what makes the. book very powerful cuz I take you there. Yes. I take you to that spot of you. know, I'm superhuman now, so you think. But, a lot of people have a lot of. problems that they can't overcome. Absolutely, man. And that's I definitely. felt when you were diving into that that. I was reliving it with you. Right. think you do that so powerfully in the.

book because it's hard for people who. haven't had the same experience to. envision it. Right. But, you made that possible. But, the. other thing that you do is I think. you're highlighting something. that is so huge for us that I genuinely. feel that so many of today's challenges. that we all face as adults. Right. are because of our childhood. When did you realize that your childhood. was something that needed healing, that. needed transforming. as an adult? When did that come when you. were like, "I need to go back there to.

transform, to to change my experience?". It happened when I could never get over. the hump. I kept on feeling like I was getting. over the hump. And then one little windstorm. small little windstorm would come by and. push me back to scratch. I was like, "Why? Why am I not You know, I'm You. know, I'm learning how to read now." You. know, I was a junior in high school and. couldn't read that well, a fourth grade. reading level. Cuz I would I would cheat. on everything. And I learned how to. read, I learned how to write. I taught. myself all these things, all these.

disciplines. But whenever the first real. big challenge would come that little. windstorm would push me back in the. hole. And I realized, man, I'm not I'm fixing. stuff on a surface level. I'm all surface, man. I'm not going deep. into the cellar of my mind and fixing. the foundation of my soul. My soul is. broken. And but you know, I knew I could fix it, but I was afraid to go back. I was. afraid to face the demons of my life of. you know, cuz you start lying. You won't.

anybody knowing this [ __ ] about you. You. So So you start lying about who you're. not. And you start creating a person. about who you want to be, but it's not. who you are. So that's when I started realizing, man, I'm never going to get over the hurdle. I'm always going to be on a surface. level until I go deep, deep into the. sewer of my mind to figure out and face. all of these different demons. That's. hard. It's hard. We all like social. media. We all like everybody to see us. for who we want to be. That's why we.

post beautiful things about us. That's not That's not going to fix you. So I realized that and that's when I. started going back. So I was about um. I was about 24 years old and I went from. 175 to almost 300 lb. And um that's when I sat down on my. couch and realized. we got to go back. And it started with. me going back to my father. So we we. left when I was 8 years old. We went to a small town of Brazil, Indiana. There's about five to 10 black.

families in a town of 8,000 to 10,000. people. And um there was a big hub of clansmen. that lived in Center Point, Indiana. And. I And I talked about that in the book. So, the clan marched in a 4th of July. parade in 1995. in Indiana. So, when you come from a messed up. foundation like I did in Buffalo, New. York, where where my dad beat me. senseless, and now I have that messed up. foundation, and now I'm here being the. only black person, I call it the only in. my book, being the only black person. My.

mom's working three jobs. We're living. in a $7 a month place. She's never at. home. So, it's not like I had some. mentors coming in to help me. You know, they were trying to put me in these. different group places for like having. some shrink talk to me and these eight, nine kids, and one kid's setting his. house on fire, another kid's peeing in. the trash can, another kid had a helmet. on banging his head up against the wall. And I'm looking at this at 8 years old. You know, and I and I I'm going to get. back to your question that you asked me, but these are the things I had to go.

back and relive. You know, I'm 24 years old now, and I. have to go back to all these things that. no one knew about me in this group place. where I'm in this place where these. people are crazy, and they think I'm. crazy. And I'm looking at them thinking, I'm. not crazy. You just don't know where I come from. I came from a place that truly damaged. my mind, damaged my soul, and now I have. to go back on my own. to face this [ __ ] Mhm. So, you know, at at 24 years old, I sat.

there a lot of time. It wasn't like one. day I woke up and said, I got to face. this. This haunting [ __ ] voice in my. head kept on saying, man, we got to go back. The only way we can go forward is to go. all the way back. And that's very scary to do for. everybody. But, the only way you're. going to fix yourself is to go all the. way back. To the beginning, to your. childhood, cuz that's where everything. starts. And that's what's blocking most. of us. All of us. Yeah. All of us. Everybody thinks it's My God, like my. marriage is messed up. This is messed. up.

You have to go back to fix all your. problems. It all starts from the root, man. The root. Yeah, I was I was just about. to say we have to go back to the root. because otherwise, we're just dealing. with the symptoms. That's it. Yeah. Yeah, and and and and. you cannot fix anything by giving it. Motrin. You got You have a jacked up knee, the. swelling may go down, but it's still. jacked up in there. You got to get it. fixed. You got to fix the knee. All. those pills do, so you know, pretty much. it's just let the swelling go down and. you can live a little longer, but you're.

not fixing the problem. Mhm. You're not. fixing the problem. guess that most people don't go back or. all of us, like you said, we don't go. back because we don't know how. Right. That right? Like most people don't know. how. Like how do you start How do you go. back? And like you said, and I love that. example that we start thinking the issue. is our marriage or our relationship. right now or our job or our career. And I I totally agree with you that we. need to go back, but we don't know how. Like you start talking about in the book. some ways in which we can start. How? Right. Can you tell us about some of. those? So, one big thing is the. accountability mirror. Mhm. You have to.

start with yourself. So, what happened in in my life. was we start to get I call it like the. rucksack. A rucksack is a pack that you. carry in the military and you put all. your stuff in it. Your radios, your. food, your water, all that stuff you. have to carry in the military. That's. your rucksack. It's a backpack, pretty. much. As you're growing up, we all have a backpack. Most of ours, hopefully, is empty, you know, and what we put in it is all. the crap we go through in life.

That's what is in the backpack for the. civilians and we carry it around with. us. So, what you have to start doing is. realizing that no matter where you're at. in life, I got called [ __ ] a lot. My dad abused. me, you know, learning disabilities, stutters, immaturity, insecurities, self-doubt, so much crap on top of me. So much stuff. I lied a lot to create. friends, so people would So much stuff. was in my backpack. No one's coming back to help me. So, it starts with that person in that.

mirror. You have to realize you are on your own. now. And whatever else you believe in, I. don't care what you believe in, but on. Earth is a very lonely journey. And it starts with the accountability. mirror of looking at saying, "Hey, my. daddy beat the hell out of me, he's not. coming back. All these things are coming. back. I have to face myself.". And you have to own all those things. that people may have done to you. Now, it's yours. You got to own it. It's. yours now to fix the problems that. people did to you. It makes no sense.

It's not fair. I get it. But if you live. in that woe is me mentality of guess. what? My dad did this to me. My mom did this. to me. People who bullied did this to. me. You're going to always live right. there. You have to figure out ways to move. forward cuz you're not coming back. It starts with the mirror. And I call it. the accountability mirror in the book. Yeah, I know. I love that. I love that. I'm glad I'm glad you brought it up. I. Anyone who's watching listening to this. right now, I really want you to take.

this seriously because this is like what. what you're talking about, what David's. talking about here is exactly. why all of our suffering and pain that. we're currently experiencing feels so. tough and hard because. unknowingly or knowingly, we are. choosing to be stuck here. Right. Right? Exactly. Unknowingly or knowingly, whatever. situation you're in, you're choosing to. stay stuck because we don't want to go. and unpeel and uncover. That's right. You don't want to break. open that that callus, that that scar in.

your mind. You don't want to break No, you have to break it open, let that. blood flow. You let blood flow in your brain. You. have to let all that stuff flow out. All. that toxic stuff that you have trapped. in there has to start flowing out now. So, like you said, you you are you are doing this to. yourself. Yes, people may have helped you get. there, but it's now on you. That's a. painful truth, though. It's a painful truth. Painful truth. Like all those people in high school and. everything else, they don't know how you're going to end. up.

So, you got to make sure that you. constantly are rewriting your book. You have to constantly rewrite your book. every day of your life. Mhm. You know, and that these aren't just words that I. say. This is how I have to live. Like. these are conversations I have with. myself. And I say it everywhere I go. The most important conversation when you. have with yourself. Yes. You live with. it every single day. But most of our. conversations are not the right ones. They're not the ones that are going to. push us to the place we need to go. They're the ones that are going to keep. us sitting in that toxic environment.

that you've helped create and everybody. else helped create and you're just. living in it. You live in that muck. And. that conversation that's plays in your. head, that becomes you. Mhm. Decode some. of that conversation that you started. with yourself. Like how do you how do. someone listening start that. conversation with themselves? And and. what are the general transitions that. you need to start seeing? So, my first. conversation when I was absolutely. nobody, and that's one thing you have to. say. We live in the world now that's so. kind. We we find a kind way around.

everything. Like if you don't look good, I have to. find a kind way of saying I don't like. your shirt. Right. That's not the. approach. If that's the approach you're. looking for, that book is not for you. Mhm. Can't Hurt Me is not for you. The. approach you have to take, at least I. took. You take whatever approach you. want. The conversation had to be a real, honest conversation in the. accountability mirror of guess what? I. was fat.

Don't find a kind word to say that, you. know what? I've gained some weight. No, you're fat. When I couldn't read, not like, hey, you know, you have a. learning disability. No, I cannot read. I have a fourth-grade reading level. I'm. struggling. And sometimes I call myself stupid. Not. in a way to put myself down. So, don't take it like my god, those are. so hurtful. Yeah, they're hurtful. It's honest. The conversation has to become an honest. conversation of where you're at. mentally. Where am I at mentally? I look.

like [ __ ] I feel like [ __ ] I'm not. this I'm I'm falling behind in school. I'm lazy. My house is a mess. You have to look at what it is and call. it what it is. Don't find words to make. yourself feel better cuz that's what So, we hang around people. that make us feel better. That tell us. what we want to hear, not what we need. to hear. And so, we stay away from those people. And we stay away from those people like. our internal dialogue becomes that kind.

it's okay. It's not okay. So, that's where it starts. It starts. with that accountability of it's not. okay anymore. This can no longer be okay. And calling yourself out for exactly. what you are and exactly how you need to. fix it. That's where it starts. I love that. I love that. I I think. that's awesome. I I I think you're so. right that so many of our conversations. with others are politically correct. That's why our conversations with. ourselves are politically correct and.

then we continue to feed the illusion. That's right. Right, we continue to feed it. Nothing. gets solved by that, man. Nothing. And. if you look at America right now, and I. won't get off on this, nothing is getting solved. because we have there's so much racism. There's so many There's so many things. and that's just one of them. We can't. talk about anything. We are skirting all these conversations. because if I say this, I'm going to. offend the black person or white person. or Jewish person or or a gay or lesbian. person. We skirt around the dadgum.

problem. So, we can't fix [ __ ]. Everything is like, well, if I say this. on TV, I'll lose my damn job. We have to. say it. We have to break the barriers within our. minds, within the world, and it starts. with yourself. Mhm. It starts with. yourself. You got to break the barriers. down within yourself and and just go. there. You got to go over yourself. Absolutely. That was the honest. conversation you had then. What's an. honest conversation you've been having. with yourself this year? Like what's. Because like you said, and I completely.

agree with you, it's a constant cycle, it's repetition. We have to keep doing. it. So, I talk about the repetition in. my book a lot. You got to get the reps. in. So, now my conversation is this. I never set out to write a book. When I was in the dungeon and no one's. coming back to help me, I just wanted that reflection in that. accountability mirror that I hated it so. badly. to be something that gave me pride. To. be something that made me feel It wasn't. about It's not about money. It's not. about success. It's not about people, "Oh my god, that's David Goggins. Sign.

my book." No. When I started this journey out years. ago, it's about I just want to learn to. read. So, now I'm at a place now where I see. the possibilities. of the human of human potential. What are we capable of is the. conversation now. The conversation now is, "How can I now. talk to people. in a way they can understand the message. that I have for so many people?". For so many people. So, that's the.

That's the new conversation now is that. I You are constantly evolving. You never stay Either you're getting. better or you're getting worse. You. don't stay the same. Mhm. So, for me, I. have to constantly be getting better. I. have to constantly be evolving my. message. So, I'm constantly thinking in. the quietness of my mind. That's That's. a key point, too. The world is so fast-paced. The world is. so noisy. So, my conversation now a lot. of times is, "My God, slow down.". Mhm. The world can take you here, here,

be here, be there, be everywhere and I. lose myself sometimes. So, I catch myself in the airport. I. catch myself in the plane around writing. stuff down. Okay, remember this, remember that. And I'm going to hang on. a second. God, what what got you here? This isn't what got you here. Slow the. [ __ ] down. Go back to the quiet place of that dirty. mirror in that $7 a month place you used. to live in. That's where you grew. You So, I So, that's what I'm I'm. constantly reminding myself go back to.

your roots. I'm not saying go back to hell, but I'm saying don't forget where you. come from as you start to explode out of. the gate when you become someone. My. conversation is. do not forget your roots. Do not forget your roots. Don't let this. become so big that you lose yourself. amongst the noise. Go back to the. quietness of what made you successful. That's the conversation now. It's a. constant reminder of that. I love that,

man. That's the mantra. Do not forget. your roots. Repeat that. Repeat that. again and again. And I have a meditation. that I developed for myself to to do. that for me. that I want to share with everyone. because it aligns so closely in in what. you're sharing. So, every morning I sit. and I look at my intentions to do. anything. So, whether there's a new deal. on the table or there's a speaking gig. that I've been invited to do or whatever. it may be. And in your life it could be. anything. Whether you're starting a new. business, you're writing a book, it may.

even just be an Instagram post. For. whatever it is. And I look at whatever. my options are. and I ask myself which one of these is a. seed and which one of these is a weed. Right. Because the incredible thing in our. garden is that weeds end up looking like. seeds and can confuse you. 100%. So, so often that thing that's giving. you ego and pride and fame and control. and power looks like it's amazing. Right. But actually it's just strangling you. 100%. So so every day what I'll do is I'll.

look at the garden of my life and I will. try and unweed my garden. So I'll look. at everyone and be like, "Why am I doing. that?" And ask myself, "Why am I doing. that?" If the answer is not love, compassion, empathy, growth, Right. personal push, sacrifice, service, if. the answer is the opposite, greed, money, power, fame, if those are my. reasons, Right. then I have to take that weed out. 100%. to pull it out because if I don't pull. it out, that weed's going to keep. growing. Right. And one day it's going to be so big. Right. that I wouldn't even have a seen it. Exactly. And so I'm with you, man. And.

that's why when I walked in here, the first thing I do is I is I want to. know the person. Because there's so many people right now. doing exactly what we're doing. What turns me off so badly that I see so. many people out there trying to. motivate people, inspire people, help. people find what's going to drive you. I. see all this [ __ ]. It's all [ __ ] a bunch of [ __ ] And I. walk in and I see it everywhere. Everybody's got this going. Everybody's.

got a new podcast, this about I'm going. to help you find yourself. They're not living it. They're not living it, which is why I. look at people and I'm like, "What are. you about? Are you Are Are you actually doing what. you say you're doing?" Which is why when. I heard some of your story, I realized that you have substance. to what you're saying. Which is why now I can speak to you. A. lot of times I go on these podcasts, I. don't want to [ __ ] be there. You know, cuz I start realizing this. person is just talking. He's not living.

And we share this with people and we. expect them to change. They can see. right through you. They can see you're not doing this. So. that's what I think about it. Don't do. everything in your life for money. Don't do. everything Yes, we need it to survive. There's a great drive and passion behind. doing things for the mind and the soul. There's a great drive in that. Everyone's mad. You You talk with such. passion. This is a life. This is my life. So, that's So, that's.

what I want people to get from all this. stuff, man. Like, there's something. inside you. The The brain is the most. powerful thing. The mind's the most. powerful thing that we have. It's not. your phone. It's not the computer. It's. not anything. It's your mind. And if you. can tap into that, you can come from the. from the dead gone roots of hell. and become such a great seed. A powerful seed that can grow into some. great dead gone garden. And people don't get that. It's all up. here. The power and the magic's up here. Yeah.

No, I really appreciate that, man. And. And thank you for saying that because. for me, too, that was, you know, my. desire, what I was sharing with you. earlier. It's. changing people's relationship with. perception. Right. And when I started I will I will. complete this. When I started making. videos or any of this, and I've been. talking about these things and studying. them for the past 13 years. And when I. started making videos, which was only 2. years ago, I had no idea that anyone would care. Right. I made it because I wanted to share what. I'd learned. Right. And I put it up, and I genuinely thought. my life was going to be I was going to. go to my 9:00 to 5:00 job, my 9:00 to.

9:00 job. I used to work 12 hours a day. in the corporate world, and I thought, "That's what I'm going to do. I'm going. to make videos on the weekends.". Right. they'll help someone. Exactly. Like, there was never a desire to for. this to be anything more than a service. Right. And so, when you When I hear you. say that, and and also just about how. much we perceive each other, and I mean, how we perceive other people, etc. Right. It's It's so important for all of. us to give each other the benefit of the. doubt. That's right. And hear from each other. To connect. Exactly. To see. Like, I I said that to you. earlier, I already knew I was going to.

like you. I was hoping you were going to. like me. know that about you. So, you know, I I I make sure I. And that's something that that's that's. very powerful. A lot of times we hear. about someone else. through the grapevine. Mhm. And they. don't And then I won't like you because. I heard from somebody else that they. don't like you. Always do your own judging. Always meet the person. Look at the. person in the eyes before you say you. don't like that person. Listen to their. story. Listen to who they are. Listen to. where they come from, how they lived.

Get your own opinion about people. It's. very huge. A lot of people didn't like. me coming up cuz they they they see this. hardness, this crust. Break away at the. crust and see what's inside that person. Absolutely. And don't judge a tweet. Don't judge one post. No. Don't judge one message. And don't judge somebody from 30. freaking years ago. Or I say 30 [ __ ]. years ago. You know, there's so much. stuff going on right now in the world. People are trying to evolve. Let them. evolve. Yes. Let them evolve. Don't bring them back.

into the Don't bring them back where. they came from. Yes. Don't don't bring. If someone wants to get better, don't bring them back to where you knew. them when they were a piece of [ __ ]. Mhm. Let them fly. And if you feel like. hell because they went away and they. escaped the hell that you all once lived. in, fix yourself. Fix yourself. Don't hold them. accountable cuz they got away. Don't. Don't constantly remind them that they. were once here. Fix yourself. Cuz a lot.

of people feel like crap once people. start to leave their little nest. Like. Like if you're an alcoholic. and this guy says, "I'm I'm going to. stop drinking." You want to bring him. right back in. No. Look at yourself in the mirror and. say, "Wow, this guy is doing better.". Take that feeling of feeling like [ __ ]. and do something about it. Change your. own life. Absolutely. Well said, man. Well said. Do you think we Do you think. we do that subconsciously? We don't want. to see other people grow and fly because. we're not growing and flying. It's 100%. It makes us feel like [ __ ] It's a.

constant reminder of where where we're. at in life. When you see people start to Even this. one person. Let's say you have a group. of 10 friends, best friends. You guys. party, smoke weed, drink. You guys are. just nine-to-fivers making minimum wage. We're just getting by. Like Goodwill. Hunting. Mhm. You watched that movie? Yeah, yeah, absolutely love it. That guy wanted to stay there. Matt. Damon wanted to stay there. You know, Ben Affleck Ben Affleck was. like, "No, man, get the [ __ ] out of. here, man." That's the kind of people. you want to be around. And those people.

that very few people like that exist in. those crowds cuz you're a constant. reminder of who they are now. This guy. got out. Now, every day I wake up. thinking, "God, I'm a piece of shit.". Mhm. I'm a piece of [ __ ] but I don't have. the courage and the strength and the. self-discipline to do what he did. So, it's a constant reminder. I don't. have the courage, but you do. Mhm. You. do have the courage. You just got to. find it. Absolutely. to find it. That's the hard part. Yeah. And where where did Yeah, so where Let's.

talk about suffering a bit because I. think what we're talking a lot about. right now is that journey for it to. begin for anyone. Right. It start It's. painful. Yes. It's an inconvenient. truth. It starts with suffering. It. starts with pain. There's no other way. You're saying You've got to go back to. your demons. You've got to go back to. their stories. It's suffering. How have you changed. your relationship with suffering? Because I think everything's a. relationship. Right. relationship with suffering fascinates. me. So, right. So, I want to know how. have you evolved in your relationship. with suffering and discomfort? So, the.

thing about it is when I say suffering, people cringe. People That's the That's the one word. whenever I post about it, people cringe. It's not about suffering and how people. may look at suffering. Like you have to. just go to a place that just every day. of your life is suffering. You have to tap into suffering every day. of your life because we have so much. scarring that we have to clean up. You have to look at suffering as almost. like I look at failure.

To succeed, you must fail. In failure and in suffering, all the. answers are in there. All the answers to all the test. questions, the test is your life. All the answers are in there. You don't. have to live in suffering and pain and. failure all the time. You have to learn, I need to visit it. Like people hate working out. You're only going to visit working out. maybe an hour a day. 23 other hours of the day you're not in. it. Mhm.

But how you become in shape is you must. visit suffering, visit working out 1. hour a day. Visit suffering 1 hour a. day. Visit your past failures 1 hour a. day. The relationship with it is the. answers are in there. They They are in there. Within the suffering, go in there. and I call it the live autopsy. The live autopsy, how you find out. someone died, they crack you open after. you're dead. How you can live is do it while you're.

alive. Mhm. Go back in your brain, crack. it open while you're alive. Don't wait. until you're [ __ ] dead to figure out. why you died. Do it while you are living. Go in there, go into the suffering. Go. into the pain of your life and say, "Why. did this suck for me so bad? Why am I afraid of all this stuff? Why have I shut down the whole world?". I guarantee I'll tell you why you shut. down the whole world. It's in these. nooks of the suffering within your. brain, in the scarring.

are all the answers. to why you are on the couch feeling. sorry for yourself. They lie within the. scars. Visit them for at least an hour a day, study them. And then you'll find out more about. yourself. You will then grow. So don't look at it as every day I. suffer. Go into it an hour a day. Learn from yourself, learn from life, learn from your failures, learn from. your insecurities, learn from your. self-doubt. Don't just say, "I'm afraid. to jump off an airplane." Mhm. What makes you afraid of it? Study it.

That's why I studied my mind, why I. became so powerful in the mind because I. realized I was weak. So, instead of running away from the. mind, I dove into it and said, "What is. making me weak?". Oh, this makes sense. I came from hell. I came from a place that beat me down to. nothing, which is why I'm afraid. All this makes sense. So, systematically, one by one, I went. back and met every single person in my. mind,

every situation. I went one-on-one with them again. in my mind and said, "Okay, let's now revisit this." And that's how. you do it. That's how it works. Absolutely, man. That is I love that. That is brilliant advice. Brilliant advice because it's. ultimately, it's observing and. self-study. Like, observing and. self-study, becoming an expert in. observation. of oneself. And. the reason why that that process can be.

so challenging or that process is. because, like you said, and I love that. You literally went through and re-met. every person that caused you pain. I. love that. And guess what? People say, "How'd you do that?". You know every painful moment. Yeah, you remember it. You remember it. You try to put it under. a rug. Lift the rug up, you'll find. them. Yeah, the dust will come up in. your face. come up quick. Yeah. So, how's Yeah, that's how That's how I was able to. write that book. I You You don't forget. that [ __ ] You want to. Yeah. And that's. where you fail Mhm. by trying to forget.

it. That's where you fail. That's where. there's no growth. Let's just move forward from all this. Yeah. There's no growth there. There's no growth there. No. You just want to You just want to. forget about it. Yeah. You will continue. making the same [ __ ] up mistake. Yeah. You will continue doing the same things. wrong if you don't go back. Yeah. And. the challenge we have is when we do. revisit it, when someone tries or. starts, they end up revisiting it, but. then we end up and the we, me too, all. of us. Like, I'm not saying when I'm. whenever I'm referring it's me too. It's.

it's also we become complaining or. criticizing or comparing. So, we do. start like I know a lot of people who. are and myself too, I sometimes start. revisiting something. Right. But then I just use it as a. crutch or an excuse. Then I'm still not. getting there. That's right. I do the. same thing. Yeah. Right? the same thing. How have you broke. through that times when that's happened. sometimes when So, as I'm talking and as. I'm going back. I'm very aware that I'm going to do. that. Yes. And I may do it for 45 minutes.

And then I'm like. You knew you were going to do this. You have to be very aware of the. conversation you're having while you're. doing it. Cuz your mind chooses the path. of least resistance. Your mind has the ultimate tactical. advantage over you. It knows what scars you. It it it knows your fears, it knows your. insecurities, and it protects you. Which. is what I talked about the 40% rule in. my book. The 40% rule is all about the. brain has the tactical advantage over.

you. It knows and it it keeps you away. from all that. That's why it says don't. jump out of airplane. Don't go in the. ocean where there's sharks. It's a. protective mechanism. Don't go back to. the place where your dad beat the [ __ ]. out of you in your mind. Don't go back. The brain protects you. But protects you so much it doesn't. allow growth. So, the brain is an amazing thing, but. the brain controls you. You must control. it. You must take power over your own. mind or your mind will guide you into.

all the soft spots soft places that your. brain wants to live in. Mhm. Your brain. has enough information. It doesn't want. to go through that process of of mind. hardening. It doesn't want to do that. I. got to remember what time I got to be. here, what time I got to be there. This. is where I want to stay. I'm peaceful. It wants to stay very peaceful and away. from scarring. So that's that's that's what it is, man. Yeah, that's what it is. It's as simple. as that and we just never touch it like. a like a box that you never look inside.

You just leave it there. You just mark. it scar. Yeah. Put it up in the attic. Never touch again. Let it get dusty. Yeah. I wanted to talk to you about this. because when I was reading about it in. the book, it fascinated me because it. reminded me of my my 3-month boot camp. as a monk. I love that. the first 3 months, I was sharing with. you earlier, the first 3 months of of. monk training is super intense. Like. really really tough because the whole. point of it is to figure out who's in. and who's not. Right. Like they don't want people to just be. be passengers on this side. It's not a. It's not a place you come to just to.

have quiet and and don't do anything. So. that 3-month boot camp something that. taught me so much. I'd love to hear. about Hell Week and specific programs. you built in your life that you went on. and what did you learn from that? What. did you take away? But tell us first a. bit about the program and then tell us. about what you learned. So what I liked. about your 3-month Hell Week Yeah. you. know, was the fact that that's where you. find yourself. You find yourself when you are. the at when you're not comfortable.

When you're not comfortable on a daily. basis. And that's how I started to grow. Like I said about the mind, it wants to. put you in that nice 72° temperature. with with everything right there. It. wants to be in that nice with a little. massage therapist. That's where your. mind wants to be. Doesn't want to be If. we're going to talk about Hell Week. So it doesn't want to be in Hell Week. In Hell Week, I I was in three of them. I finished two of them in one year. Only person to ever do that in SEAL. history. There's been people who who you. know who who have gone through a couple.

of Hell Weeks but in like 5 years, 6. years, 7 years, 8 years. I did I was in three in one year. They say it takes off 3 to 5 years of. your life. So Hell Week is 130 hours. of continuous training. You might get 2. hours of sleep. And what it does is. it's designed to break a man. To break a man down to the parts where. like I talked about the surface, how I. was fixing the surface. If you only fix.

the surface, you will never get through. Hell Week. Cuz what it does, it starts. to bring out these demons. Cuz even. though there's a lot of yelling and. stuff like that, there's times where. it's very peaceful. in a very eerie way. So, the first hour of the 130 is. breakout. They're shooting guns. It's. loud. It's noisy. Your mind is in chaos. When your mind's in chaos, you can't. think. So, you having fun. Yeah, this is great. Yeah, we're in Hell Week. We're Navy. SEALs. We're trying to be Navy SEALs. We're badasses.

Then what they do, and I don't even. think that they understand what they're. doing. But I studied the mind. It's perfect. It's psychological. warfare. They go from a hour, the first. hour when you're going crazy. The second. hour of the 130, they put you in the. cold water. It's called surf torture. Now they don't call it surf torture. because it's a kinder, gentler word. It's called surf acclimation or. something like that. Whatever. Everybody's getting soft. So, they call it surf torture.

for a good reason. They put you out. there. No one's quit yet. It's only been. an hour. Maybe a couple of guys have. And you're in the Pacific Ocean, which. is never warm. You're all linked arms. You're sitting there and the waves are. crashing over you. I went through winter Hell Weeks, which. is cold. The Pacific Ocean is like 50°. It was 49 this particular night in my. third Hell Week. And what it does. is. it makes your mind flip out. We've been.

doing this now for 3 weeks, being in. this water. But for some reason now. the water is colder than it's ever been. It's not. Our minds are fragile. We can process a day. It's hard to process 130 hours. There's no end. There's no end. So, the mind starts to. ramp up. So, you're sitting there, it's. quiet, no one's yelling at you, you hear. the ocean. And you're freezing. And your mind goes. [ __ ] Starts to think,

"I have another 129. hours. You're not going home. You're. getting yelled at. You could be frozen.". So, you panic. You freak out and you. want to quit. What I realized about the mind is those. people who can be in that time. and embrace that time and be in that. moment and not allow the mind to go to. 129 hours on hour one. It's the control that we don't have in. our minds. It's the control that you had.

to have for 3 months. when you're miserable, when you're. suffering, when you're laying on the. floor, when you're doing all the. disciplines it takes to be a monk. You cannot think about the whole. process. It will make you it it will it will make. you so. insanely crazy. It's impossible. It's inhumane what I'm. about to do to myself. You have to be. able to break all these big, humongous, painful things in life down to the. smallest molecule cuz that's all the. brain can handle. The brain can't handle.

hours and hours and hours of suffering. But, it can handle right now, "I'm in the Pacific Ocean and it's very. cold. And this is what I'm doing.". Don't think about the rest of it. So, that's what I learned from Hell Week. That's what I learned from being in. three Hell Weeks. That's what I learned. from all the military. I went to Ranger. School. I went to all these different. schools to learn all of that. To learn how the mind process. So, I I. talk about theorists. I talk about.

practitioners. A theorist is a person who reads a book. Doesn't do it. Reads a book. Learns. about something, and then talks about. it. A practitioner is myself. A practitioner. is a person like me. I wanted to be an. expert on the mind. A mental toughness guy, beyond mental. toughness. The only way to do that in my. eyes is to put yourself in hell. Put in hell repeatedly. Repeatedly put. yourself in hell and study how you. process it. And that's how I was able to come up.

with all these different ways, all these. different tools to to slow the mind down. in hell. Cuz the mind just speeds up. The mind. wants to get out of the painful. situation, the suffering. It can't It. can't process it. So, that's what I. realized by going through all these. different processes of being in hell. weeks. You know, it's it's just that. How the mind processes in hell. Were you ever scared that you would lose. the processing ability. to be able to coach yourself through it? Were you ever scared when you were. there? I was There's sometimes where the.

mind gets overwhelmed and you cannot. slow it down. But, by these these certain tools I. developed, by not allowing your mind to. get away from the moment. You cannot You have to think about the. exact moment that you're in. But, I saw. when I was younger, the moment became too big. When it became too big, I spazzed out. and I would quit. But, now I don't think about even like. an hour from now I'll be eating. I don't.

even go there. Cuz then your mind Oh. No. We must embrace this because now. there's You have to be a leader in this. moment. It's not about you just getting. through it. I had six guys I had five. guys and six including me in my boat. crew. Now I was the boat crew leader. So, now another trick is this. If you don't think about yourself, there's no pain. Which can also lead to pain later on in. your life. But, in these moments when. you're struggling, if you are a true.

leader and you're worried about your men. or women beside you, your mind doesn't care how cold you are. anymore. Your mind's only worried about taking. care of the men and women beside you. So, I started realizing, man, if I take. care of these cats to my left and my. right in the worst moments, my mind is no longer thinking about, "You're miserable, David Goggins. Get. the hell out of here." You're thinking. about. "How was John? How was Andy? How was. Sam? How was Pete? How Hey, how are you. guys doing?" You're not thinking about. me. So, there's so many things you can. do to get outside your own head to then.

allow your body just be like, "Hey, we're just a machine.". But, you have to let your mind be able. to process all these different tactics. to do that. Take a different vantage. point in life. When you are in the hell, you can't see the beauty of being in it. when you're in it. Get on top of that mountain top in your. mind. Get on top of that mountain top and look. down on what you're doing. You can see a whole different world, and. that world is beautiful. But, you got to. get a different vantage point in this in. the suck.

Don't be in it. Spiritually, get out of. it. Get that soul. Look down on what you're. doing. Be amazed by the process of where. you're at now and where you came from. Wow. I've got I've got so many questions. from that. I've got so many questions from that. Okay. Let's Let's start with. you said And I love that. So, you said. one of the tricks is when you stop. thinking about yourself, because when. there's no self, there's no pain. You. start living for your team, the people, the other people suffering. Is that I.

love that. Yes. Totally understand that. Servant leadership, wanting to go beyond. oneself. But, you pointed out something really. fascinating. You said it can lead to pain later. That's right. Explain that, because I I. I get that. So, I've had this mentality for years. It got me through a lot of hard times. You cannot use it every day of your. life. That's yeah. That's what I was thinking. You cannot use it I use it as like, "My. god, this is the perfect I found it. This is the trick. You just totally you don't even matter.

You're just a machine. You are a machine. that's just just just like a lever. That's all you are, man. You're not. You're not. And in my book, I talk about. when that lever starts to get rusty, starts to get crusty, it starts to like. I can't even think about anybody but. myself. So, through the process what I started. to learn was that helps a lot and you. can tap into that all the time. But you have to be able to heal. yourself. You have to be able to recover.

yourself. It can't be something that you. continue to do and do and do. There has. to be a recovery process for your mind, your body, your soul, your spirit. Encompasses your whole body. Mhm. So, those are tactics, but those tactics must be oiled up. That. lever has to be oiled again to go back. in it. Absolutely. Yeah, it's it's. it's not it's not emergency use, but. it's used in specific moments. Knowing. you can go back and it's so true that. for so many people who want to serve, it.

becomes the default. And I made that. mistake myself. When I became a monk, it. was because I wanted to wake up every. day and serve. That was my goal. I was. like, I want to wake up every day. I. want to use everything I've been given. to serve humanity. I just want to serve. people. I just want to give. And I was. just being that. Right. And so I would go through. sleepless nights. I would push myself. for weeks on end to go further for other. people. And it was amazing because it. felt fulfilling and it and it helped. them, too. But after a while, I was. broken. I I I lost my voice for 6.

months. I was eating out of tubes for 6. months. I was writing on a whiteboard. You know, it was just my whole life kind. of crumbled. I was sleeping 14 hours a. day then because my life kind of went to. the other side because I'd worked so. hard to just give give give give give. and I loved it. Mhm. But in the process, I broke myself. because I wasn't refueling. I wasn't. That's right. renewing. That's right. Even though I. was still taking, I was still. meditating, I was still doing. everything. Yep. I talked about that big. time in my last chapter, how it just. takes me to nothing.

How I'm where you were at. You know, it's taken me 5 years. of doing my meditation, my stretching, my eating right, my sleeping right. And. you have to be on a constant reminder. Almost like how you put a reminder on. your phone, 15 minutes you got this. That has to be in your brain. You've. done too much. Stop. Mhm. And what happens in life is that we. start to see our lives become so. successful. Mhm. We're making money. We're doing this. We're doing that. I want more. I want.

more. I push harder. I'm all about. pushing hard, don't get me wrong. Obviously. I'm all about it. But to push as hard as you can, you have to be mindful of the machine. that's pushing. It is going to end up dying. And then it takes years to get it back. to you. You lose that time. Totally. That time is gone. You know, I lost 5. years of I could be crushing it. Where now I'm just now back to crushing. it, realizing, "God, man, I learned the.

hard way." But that's really sometimes. the only way to learn. Yeah, sometimes, yeah. Sometimes the only way to learn. That's how I've learned the best. Yeah. How do you know those indicators? So, what are those indicators to know. I'm pushing too hard or I'm I'm. suffering too much because it's hard to. know. Mhm. Right? Everyone gets in the. gym even once a week or whatever and. it's like if you don't go often, you can. feel like you're falling apart after 10. minutes. Do me a favor. Go to the first. Go to the first page of the of of not. No, not my fault. Go to like the first. three pages of that book. You see one.

one sentence. Okay. To the unrelenting voice in my head that. will never allow me to stop. Okay. The. unrelenting voice that we all have. What happens to that voice? I'm going to. I'm going to answer your question. We. all have a voice in our head. Some of us are very spiritual, some of. us are not, but we all have this voice. in you're doing [ __ ] up [ __ ] This is. wrong. Don't do that. The more you don't listen to that voice, the further that voice gets away from. your head. Some people call it the Holy. Spirit, some people call it God, some.

monks, whatever whatever you call it. It's there. We all have it. It's the right or wrong voice. But the more we don't listen to it, the. more that voice goes away. And only. voice you hear is yourself. We all When when the only voice you hear. is yourself, you're wrong. There's a voice that guides you through. life. And sometimes it's guiding you in. a direction that you don't want to go, that's usually the right place to go. It's that uncomfortable place. So that. voice. is always talking to me, but we don't.

listen to it. I listen to it. And when I. start getting. anxious, nervous, like I've done We all. know when we've done too much cuz it's. telling us, "I'm getting tired. I'm. wearing down.". But we we go, we go, we go. I start. talking to my fiance, "Hey, I'm doing too much.". You start now like like I did in Hell. Week, like I do all the time. The. one-second decision. It's that decision when your mind starts. to get so amped up, whenever you can't. hear yourself think,

you got to slow down. Whenever you living off a schedule, every day is a schedule, every day is a. schedule, you have no time for yourself. When you start And we all know it. I. don't have time for this anymore, I. don't have time for that anymore. That's. when your mind and your body are saying, think about that. I'm neglecting my fiance, I'm neglecting. my disciplines of life, I'm neglecting. my reading, my learning, my my workouts, my my my diet. When you start neglecting. all of that, you neglect one of them. You can You can. neglect all of them a long time.

It's going to hurt you. When you start seeing that, my god, I. haven't eaten right in a long time. Haven't been sleeping right in a long. time. It going to be one of those things. to take you off. So I'm I'm I'm very aware. of my eating, my sleeping, my my my. disciplines of life. You know, I start to get too far away. from them, it's a hard stop. Mhm. Because what made me me. are the self not just disciplines,

the self-disciplines of life. Mhm. And. those are always in front of you if you. have any. They're always in front of. you. Mhm. So, that's So, that's my hard. stop. Yeah, I love that, man. And that's. great advice. And I guess a simple. example is is of like sleep. Like when. you wake up in the morning, That's. right. there's a part of you that's going, "Ah, just go back to sleep." Exactly. Right? When we used to wake up at 4:00. a.m. as monks, sometimes 3:00, it's like there's the part and then. that's what you're saying. And then all. you hear is yourself saying, "Ah, it's. all right. Just go sleep. It's okay.". That's right. But then that voice has got quieter that. says, "No, you need to get up. You need.

to get up." And you've just pushed it. away. Mhm. You've just pushed it away. And that's the discomfort that you need. to That's right. embrace. Exactly. So, those voices are. very important. They They can guide you. And that's the thing about Like I said, the mind is the most powerful weapon in. the world. Yeah. It can guide you to being very. comfortable also. Yeah. So, you got to. be You got You got to be careful. The. The The mind will trick you. Yeah. And. it's saying, "Just sleep in today. You. deserve it." Yeah. Sometimes you don't. deserve it. So, there's that There's that fine line. of of the mind getting a tactical.

advantage over you to where you're like, "I've worked too hard." Yeah. You really. haven't worked hard enough. Mhm. So, Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, in in when we. were trying to monks in the Vedic. philosophy, it talks about the. difference between the mind and the. intelligence. So, the mind is compared. to a child and the intelligence is. compared to a parent. And so, when the child goes loose, when. the mind goes loose, when it's not. trained, controlled, disciplined, self-disciplined, etc., it can have. tantrums. It can throw things out the. pram, right? It It demands more. Like a.

child always wants to sleep in. Right. Always. Right. Always. Even if the child knows. that it's better to wake up to go to. school, A child doesn't want to. A child. doesn't want to study for exams cuz it's. hard, it's painful. And the adult's. role, which is the intelligence, which. is often we forget that it exists, the. intelligence is that voice coaching the. mind. That's right. But what often. happens is the intelligence just tries. to shout at the mind like a bad parent. Exactly. just shouts. That's 100%. No teaching, no education, no no. knowledge, just shouts.

That is 100%. the way you explain that about the. child's mind. is 100% the truth. I just want to sleep in, always throwing. tantrums. Never getting what they want. Whenever. they don't get what they want, they. throw a tantrum. But what happens is we. never grow. We we are 40, 50, 60, still throwing. that tantrum we once did at 7 and 8. years old. So people think with age is growth. No, it's not. You have to go back into the.

scarring to get the growth. Absolutely. Because if if with age you just repeated. what you did when you were younger, it's. just stronger. That's it. Right? You've. just strengthened a bad muscle. I'm throwing a bigger tantrum at 43 than. I did at 8. Yeah. So true. Yeah, you. just strengthen a bad muscle. Stronger, stronger, stronger, stronger. And then that can break you. It 100%. That's why I love the monk. mentality. Yeah. And that's why I talk. about my book a lot too is that. mentality. I'm not one, but I've taken a lot of the disciplines, the self-disciplines.

from that mentality to grow. Yeah, I. love that, man. That's That's what. fascinates me so much and I'm excited. for us to. This conversation is phenomenal and I'm. loving it about your book and I'm. excited to have more offline. conversations too because that's that's. literally why I did it. When I met monks. who were living extreme scenarios. And. when I look at you, I I think about it, too. You're You're an extremist Right. in a good way. I'm saying in a good way. Like And And when I became a monk, it. was the same thing. I I had to go to the. edge of myself. That's right. Like I had to go to the extreme of.

myself. 100%. realize where I could be placed. And. what's funny about that, I often say it. on the other side of that extreme place. that I call suffering, call whatever you. want, there's a whole 'nother world. that people have not even examined. But you have to go to that extreme place. to examine it. We want to stay here in this comfortable. place. Once you're going to push. yourself to that extreme place, it's like a whole 'nother universe. It's. almost like like you're an astronaut and. you've examined something like up in.

outer space. No, it's always been there. But you have to be going through all the. muck and all the [ __ ] to examine it. You. realize, "My god, through all this crap, there's a whole 'nother whole 'nother. universe over here in my mind." Yeah. Whole 'nother universe. Absolutely. What's your take on capacity in the. sense of. So, if someone's listening right now, someone's watching or listening to us. and they're just like, "You guys are. crazy, right?" As I hear it all the. time. Yeah, I'm sure you I'm sure you hear it. all the time. I haven't I haven't. actually The The reason why this is so. exciting for me, and I'm I'm sure you. can guide me a lot, is I haven't shared.

as many moments in my story, even the. ones I've shared with you today. I've. not I've not really shared them because. I'm I'm writing them right now. Right. But I'm sure you hear it all the time. that you're crazy. What's your take on. capacity? If someone's listening, they're going, "David Wright, you can. stand in the middle of the ocean and. it's 49°. and you can do that. But for me, that. suffering is me just starting something. new." Is that true or can they also. achieve that capacity? They can also. achieve that capacity, which is why I. wrote the book So Raw. Mhm. Because what. we do so well in this world is we see.

superhuman people and we title them. The. second we title them, what that does, that gives us a. get-out-of-jail-free card. Is that. they're the 1%ers. Mhm. I'm not even. going to try to do that because that's. not even in me. God made them special. They're special people. There are no. special people. There are special minds, and the mind can be created on your own. You can do that yourself. So, that's why. I write the book like I write it, so. people can look at me and say, "My God, he came from this?

He had to overcome all of this?". So, I take away all the titles. Even crazy. Even the fact that he's superhuman. All. those titles are now stripped away. But, what's funny about that, you will have. my book in your hand, you will read it. in its entirety. You'll hear the audiobook, whatever you. get. And by time you get to chapter 9 or. 10, you already forgot chapter 1, 2, and 3. of the hell I came through. That's how. fast the mind wants to soften you up and.

say, "This guy's just nuts. He's. superhuman." That's how fast the mind. You will already forgot what you read. And you're And you're. And And you love the book. You're loving the book. And you already forgot the first three. chapters cuz your mind is saying, "This. is impossible.". It's already guiding you down that path. of least resistance as you're reading. the book. It's how powerful it is. So, we got to constantly remind ourselves of. go back to chapter 1, 2, and 3. Always remind yourself of those. chapters. Of that you can also do this.

But, you have to first. self-examine or live autopsy your own. personal life. The tricks of the mind, man. That's it. That That is such a great explanation. of how fast the mind can fool you into. something someone has just explained. I do it all the time when I speak to. people. I tell them at speaking gigs. And I And I And I break my life down. And by time I leave, my God, I'm like, "You didn't hear the first 30 minutes of. my story, did you?" Yeah. No, I heard. it, man. I'm like, "But, you forgot it.

already. The mind's already tricking. you." Yeah. I love that, man. Thank you so much, David, man. Listening to you today, honestly, like I was reading and then. listening to you, and I've seen you on. interviews as well, but just having the. honor of being able to sit down with you. and and talk to you about it has. actually like been one of my one of the. most meaningful conversations in my. life, not just on the podcast. I'm just. saying this conversation, I listening to. you, some of the things you've said and. and the alignment we have, genuinely. it's been it's been a powerful. conversation. The one we had before the. podcast and the one we've done now.

Thank you. It's it's been really. meaningful to me, man. So I've. definitely like it's done a lot of work. for me. Like just listening to you I've. been doing the work sitting here. So. it's been meaningful. I'm going to. listen back for myself. So I I always. end each podcast with five questions. It's called my final five. Okay. Final five minutes. This is easy. for you because you're used to drills. Right. Uh it's it's the rapid fire. I. like doing this because I mean I don't. know if anyone can catch you off guard. because you're you, but uh but these are. questions that we just want instant. quick answers to the first thing that.

comes to your mind. The first question I. have for you is what's the best advice. you've ever received? I didn't receive any advice. And that's. the thing about it. When I grew up I. just didn't receive any advice. My my. family was in such turmoil. that the best advice I received is from. myself. And and that has to be to study. yourself. All the bad. Cuz the good's. already there. You don't need to study. that. Study study the best of about. yourself and learn from that and grow. I. love that, man. That's that's such a. beautiful way of looking at it. And. that's true because I think we live in a. culture where we're waiting for someone.

else to come solve our problems. Yeah. Right? We're living in that. culture. I was very blessed to not have. that. Mhm. And you know, and that's how. I looked at my life too, not to get off. the five questions, but I looked at my. life in a way that. I was able to find so much strength in. negativity. I was able to flip it upside. down versus me thinking my woe is me, my. life sucks. I was able to say my God, God put me in the most in the perfect. training ground. to study myself, to become a straight. up, you know, scientist of my mind. Yeah. Absolutely. Yeah, don't worry.

about going away from the five. questions. I did it. I was I was getting. into your answers. So I was yeah. Second question, Can't Hurt Me. If. there's anything that can hurt you, what. is it? Oh, there's tons of things. You. know, everything I talk about I'm a I. was afraid to jump out of airplanes, afraid of the water, afraid of. afraid of myself. So, there are so many things that can't. hurt me, but the biggest thing that can. hurt me is myself. Mhm. Is allowing my. mind to get away from the reality. We do. We we build a false reality in our.

minds. Mhm. The real reality is the one. thing that can the the false reality is. the one thing that can't hurt you. Yeah. The real reality is the one thing you. can help and and fix yourself. Absolutely. Third question. Uh what's the. The third question that I wanted to ask. you is all around. what's the uh one thing that you're. trying to learn this year? What's the. one thing you've been kind of like. tackling this year? I'm attacking I'm a. big introvert. Mhm. So, this is very. uncomfortable for me. Even though I'm. comfortable with you, I know there's a.

lot of eyeballs on me right now. So, it's very uncomfortable for me. I used. to stutter real bad. So, it's trying to be in a spot where. I am. in that monk-like mentality. everywhere I go. And not allow the past demons of even. I'm successful now, but you still have those moments where. you go back and your mind's like, "Remember when you were 6 years old and. you stuttered profusely at this play?". And you were so, you know, it's those. things that come back to you all the. time. So, that's what it is. Awesome.

What's your daily meditation or mantra. or repetition to yourself? Every day I tell myself. I used to believe I was the weakest man. that God ever created. So, now I believe that I'm the hardest. human being that God ever made. I don't care if it's true or not, it's the most important conversation to. me. It's the thing that drives me every. day. It it It's the one thing that keeps. me going every day is that you must. constantly be that man that you want to. be. Awesome, man. And fi- fifth and final. question, what's your purpose right now? My purpose right now is to continue.

I used to have a washcloth rag when I. did this. And you know how you take a shower you. have a washcloth rag and the cloth and. you uh you're sitting there and you just. lathering up and before you hang your. rag up, you want to get all the water. come on it and you know, get it all all. that you know, all the suds out of it. You want to ring it out. You want to. hang it up. So, my big thing is when I live my life, I want to make sure that when I'm dead. and gone that I ring that wash rag out. and that wash rag is my soul. I also.

believe that we're going to end up one. day meeting the maker, if you believe in. one. And I believe that maker knows. everything about you. Everything about you. Knows I was going. to be here and talking to you. Knows. everything. But you also have a choice to make. You have a choice to make. We have. choices. And the one thing that scares. me to death in my life is getting to. heaven. and not being what I was supposed to be. And I believe that God has a chart and. he looks at the chart and he puts it in. front of you when you get to heaven. He. says, "Hey, this is what you're supposed.

to be.". And one of my biggest fears in life. was to see that chart. and not have every block checked off. You know, I want to make sure that I'm. constantly pursuing whatever it is I'm. pursuing just to be the best I can just. constantly grinding myself into a fine. powder. You know, and but doing it in a smart. way. Like I talked about, you can. constantly grind yourself into a point. where you're just sick. There's a there's a happy medium of. grinding. So, that's that's that's my. purpose now to continue to push myself.

so others can see what is possible. That's beautiful, man. Everyone, that is. David Goggins' new book. It is out, Can't Hurt Me, Master Your Mind and Defy. the Odds. Go get it. If you love this. conversation, it was literally just the. tip of the iceberg. We just got into. like, I'm going to say 1% of the book. There is so much more in here. Personal. stories, accounts, and the best thing is. that there's challenges at the end of. every chapter where there are practical. tools and tips that you can actually do.

at home with your friends, people that. you're reading the book with. I think. it's such a powerful book in the way. that it's written, in the way that David. is so vulnerable, so open, hoping that. you're going to go there yourself as. well. I hope you're going to go there. David, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Genie, so grateful, man, to meet you. And and the fact that you turned up on. this podcast and shared in an incredible. way, man. Thank you so much. it, man. Thank you, man. Thank you. If you want even more videos just like. this one, click on the boxes over here.

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