DO THIS Everyday To Completely Heal Your BODY & MIND | Dr. Daniel Amen & Jay Shetty

You want to drip dopamine, don't dump. it. Because when you dump it with the. fries and the alcohol, the porn, you don't have much left. And so then. you have to go back and do it again. And. all of a sudden The best-selling author. and host The number one health and. wellness podcast. On Purpose with Jay Shetty. Hey everyone, welcome back to On. Purpose, the number one health podcast. in the world. Thanks to each and every. single one of you that come back every. week to listen, learn, and grow. Now you.

know that I'm fascinated and committed. to introducing you to people who can. expand your mind, your brain, that can. help you heal internally and externally, that can help you 360° take care of your. life. And today's guest is someone who. is the first guest who ever has been on. the podcast twice. And now the first. guest who's ever been on the podcast. three times, which shows us how much you. all love him and how much I really. appreciate all his insights and guidance.

as well. He's my go-to person whenever I. hear about a new treatment or a new. therapy or new whatever it may be, I'm. texting this person saying, "Hey, what. do you think about this? Like, what do. you think about this?" And I really. appreciate how he lives an extremely. holistic life from a from a spiritual. point of view, from a scientific point. of view, and having someone that I can. ask these questions to openly helps me. So I hope today helps you. I'm speaking. about the one and only Dr. Daniel Amen. Dr. Amen's mission is to end mental.

illness by creating a revolution in. brain health. Dr. Amen is a physician, adult and child psychiatrist, and. founder of the Amen Clinics with 10. locations across the US. Amen Clinics. has the world's largest database of. brain scans for psychiatry, totaling. more than 200,000. SPECT scans on patients from 155. countries. He's also the founder of. Brain MD, a fast-growing science-based. company, and Amen University, which has.

trained thousands of medical and mental. health professionals on the methods he. has developed. Dr. Amen is not new to. books or TV. He's produced over 16. national public television shows about. the brain, and his online videos on. brain and mental health have been viewed. over 300 million times. And Dr. Amen is. a 12-time New York Times best-selling. author. I've got a long way to catch up. Uh and today we're talking about his. latest book. It's called You, Happier:

The Seven Neuroscience Secrets of. Feeling Good Based on Your Brain Type. This is the book I want you to go and. get. The link is in the caption right. now. Dr. Daniel Amen, thank you so much. for being here. Thank you for allowing. me to have you in my pocket at all times. to be able to text you and ask you weird. and wonderful questions. And most of. all, thank you for being just, you know, such a such a kind, warm-hearted person. who who always brings their best energy. to uh serve others. So, thank you for. being here. Well, it makes me happy to. be with you. Um. you know, I think of happiness as a.

daily practice, and appreciating the. people you love is just critical to it. Yeah. Yeah. And and I really appreciate. you. You You said you were happy to be. here when we were just filming a couple. of seconds ago, and then you were. telling me that I I looked good. And I. was I was saying to you, "It's because. I've been doing all the right things and. following your advice." And I remember, I think it was our second interview, not. our first one. Our second interview, I was saying to you like, "I have only.

one cheat day a week now." And you just. looked at me and you were like, "Well, you know why they call it a cheat day, right?". And I didn't. I was like, "What do you. mean?" And you were like, "Yeah, because. you're cheating your brain." Like, you. know, and and you gave this beautiful. explanation, and I was thinking, you. always have these things that you say. that stick with me. And if anyone. doesn't follow Dr. Daniel Amen on. Instagram, make sure you go and follow. him because I love how you post the. brain scans of before and after of on a. certain drug and without a certain drug. on weed without weed like I just think.

that the way you communicate brain. health is is fantastic and so great for. you know my generation the generation. after me I think we have so much to. learn from you so thank you for what. you're doing and how you're doing it too. and always makes me happy to see you and. your wife as well. and this has probably been the longest I. haven't seen you since you scanned my. brain. So that. That was so much fun. That was so much. fun. I was very relieved to know that my. brain was doing all right. So Well and. when you see it you develop a. relationship. with it and you want it to be better and.

it's hard to hurt it once you see it. Yeah that's so true and it's it's crazy. to me that we don't get exposed to our. brains like you don't ever see your. brain which we use every day that works. for us every day and you have no access. to it apart from see your body see. you know different organs maybe. sometimes but the brain's not talked. about a lot. What is our brain? What does it do? And how do we develop a relationship.

with it? Because I feel that people are. very confused with what is the brain. what is the mind? You know what what. does it do what does it not do? I think. there's a lot of stuff out there. How. would you describe it? Well it's very. clear to me after all the scans I've. done that your brain the physical. functioning of your brain the moment by. moment physical functioning of your. brain creates your mind. And if your. brain's. not right your mind's not right and.

there are a lot of spiritual teachers. that'll separate the mind from the brain. but you can't because just think of. Alzheimer's disease you know very. damaged brains and they're very damaged. minds that go I mean people that act in. ways they never act if their brain was. healthy, that they don't remember people. that they're deeply in love with. And. so, if we want a healthy mind, it.

actually starts with a healthy brain. And, you know, I've had the blessing or. the curse to scan over a thousand. convicted felons and over a hundred. murderers, and their brains are very. damaged. So, if your behavior is so bad, you end up in a cage, and they're not thinking, "Oh, I have to. understand, evaluate, rehabilitate. that person's brain, and then they act.

better." And that helps all of us. Dostoevsky once said, "You can tell. about the soul of a society not by how. it treats its outstanding citizens, but. by how it treats its criminals." And. it's You know, when I first started. scanning people, I didn't really have an. opinion on the death penalty. I just. really hadn't thought about it. I. thought of free will is black or white, you have it or you don't. And then,

as my work became known, defense. attorneys would send me people did. really bad things, and their brains were. so damaged. And when I would go to. court, and a lot of people hated me for. that, you know, if you have a bad brain. and you did something terrible, you. don't get to go home. But should you kill them? I mean, it's a. really important question. And I'm like, "No, you know, it's not. the sign of an evolved society to kill. sick people." I mean, you have to.

protect society from them, but what I've. seen is if we rehabilitate their brain, they can have a meaningful. life. And people just aren't connecting. It's your brain. It's easy to call. people bad. It's harder to go, "Why?". And oh, can I fix it? What are the. things that damage our brains? Because I. think what we find is we often think.

like, "Oh, that person was totally. normal." And then one day they just. changed. Or we say things like, "Oh, yeah, if you just met them, like they. were just quiet and calm. Like you would. never have noticed anything." And then. they did this horrific thing. Like, what. are those habits? What are those. patterns that start damaging our brain? Because I don't think we're aware. As. you said, we never see our brain. We. don't really talk about it. We don't. really know much about it. What are the. things we do since birth that damage our.

brains that could lead to something as. extreme as that? Well, even before. birth. Yes. So, since marijuana's been. legalized in many states, babies born. with marijuana in their bodies has gone. up 1,700%. I mean, it's a ridiculous amount. So, even before you're born, what happens in. utero can damage the trajectory. of your life. They have more behavior.

problems. They have more attention. problems. They have less empathy for. other people. And then, you know, as you. go through life, this standard American. diet is damaging brains. You know, you. talked about how healthy your diet has. been. I follow this guy on TikTok. For. some reason, my TikTok's has gone crazy. And he he looked at his blood sugar. before and after Pop-Tarts. And Pop-Tarts was like the worst thing.

he looked at, almost worse than. Coca-Cola. And but what are we feeding. children? I mean, in public school free. lunches, Pop-Tarts, which means we're damaging. their blood sugar levels, we're damaging. their weight, and we're damaging their. brain. And I have a mnemonic called bright. minds, which helps me remember, you know, like B is for blood flow. Low. blood flow, number one brain imaging. predictor of Alzheimer's disease. So,

Netflix, right? Not in front of the TV. too often, not exercising, that damages your brain. Probably the. number one thing that causes brain. trouble. Your brain is soft, about the. consistency of soft butter. Your skull. is really hard and has sharp bony. ridges. Mild traumatic brain injuries. ruin people's lives. If you said, "Hey. Daniel, single most important thing from. 210,000 scans, mild traumatic brain.

injuries. Don't let your kids. Physical. physical, right? From. snowboarding, falling off a horse, football, soccer, hockey. Yeah, physical abuse will do it. Falls, car accidents, um you know, and people are texting and. driving and texting and walking, and. there's 3 million new concussions every. year in the United States, which means.

over the last 30 years, there've been 90. million people that have had. concussions. It's very common and a. common cause of depression, homelessness, addiction, suicide, panic. attacks, ADHD. Wow. Yeah, I mean, when. when you spell it out that clearly, I. think what I love about you is I think. the two times I have done an interview. with you, and then when I was with you,

I just go away going, "Oh, I need to. sort I need to do something for my. brain. I need to figure it out." Right? And it's it's a good thing. Like I. enjoyed that healthy sense of an. awakening and a healthy sense of fear. because I think we are so scared of. being scared in society today. Like we. don't want to listen to the truth. because it's scary. It's inconvenient. It forces us to change something. If. someone could do something starting. tomorrow, what is the thing that someone. could do waking up tomorrow that could.

be better for their brain? What would. you say that is? Well, you know, and you happier, I talk. a lot about the tiny habits, the. smallest things that'll make the biggest. difference. And brain and mental health, it's a daily practice, just like. physical health, right? As I said, you. look really great. That's a daily. practice, right? You just don't do that. one day a week. You do it every day. If. you want a really great brain and a.

really great mind, they're habits every. day. And some of my favorite every day, is this good for my brain or bad for it? I just like when my daughter, she turned. 19 yesterday. Oh, happy birthday to her. And when she was little, we played. Chloe's game. And Chloe's game was, is. this good for your brain or bad for it? Frozen blueberries. Oh, two thumbs up, God's candy. Or avocados. Oh, two thumbs.

up, God's butter. Hitting your head with. a soccer ball. No, very stupid, thumbs. down. Right? And so just playing with. her with that question that takes 3. seconds, right? I mean it doesn't take. long. And people go, "What's good and. what's bad?" Second graders know it. I. went into our second grade class, put 20. things on the board, and I went, "Separate them for me." And they got 19. out of 20 right. So, they got a 95%.

and the only thing they got wrong was. orange juice, which they put in the good. category, which is like way too much. sugar. And so, whenever you unwrap sugar. from its fiber source, right, turn fruit. into juice, it turns toxic in your body. So, you have to be really careful with. that. So, that's one. Two. Whenever you wake up in the morning, today is going to be a great day. You have to nudge your brain. Right? We. have a conscious mind, we have an. unconscious mind, we have a self-image,

and your subconscious. is paying attention to the words that. the conscious mind is saying. And so, if. you're like, "Oh, I don't want to get. out of bed. Today is going to be a bad. day." You're going to have a bad day cuz. you just programmed your subconscious. mind to do that. Every day when my feet. hit the floor, today is going to be a. great day. And then, my favorite of all. of them. is um.

when you go to bed at night, and bed is. so important cuz if you want to have a. good day, it starts the night before, is. what went well today. So, when I go to. bed, I say a prayer, and then I go, "What went well?" And I go on a treasure. hunt cuz I'm purposefully looking for. what are the right things that happened. And I look for the micro moments. You. know, like, what's the smallest thing? And for me, where I live, I see a lot of.

hummingbirds and butterflies. And I just. I just focus on them. And I've been doing this for years, and. it's so helpful. And about two and a. half. years ago, my dad died. And it was an. awful. awful day. And when I went to bed that night, I. said a prayer, and then I went, "What. went well today? And then the voice in. my head, you know, started criticizing. me like you're a bad kid and you don't. love your dad and whatever.

But because it's my habit, I went what went well today? And I saw. this interaction between my mother and. the police officer. And it was so funny. and so beautiful that it just made me. smile. And then I thought of all the. texts I got from my friends. who found out about my dad and that was. peaceful. And then I just thought about. holding his hand before they took him. away. And I went to sleep. Because I'm mastering my mind and not.

being a victim of the situation. Didn't. mean I didn't grieve. I still grieve. I. still miss him. But it's these habits. like every day to direct my mind to help. me. while taking care of my brain. Yeah, I. love those practical tools because in. effect what we're trying to do is change. our thought pattern, right? We have a. pattern as you said to wake up and say. I'm tired. And we put that on snooze and then we.

get up and then we're having breakfast. and we're like, I'm still tired. And. then we get to lunchtime and we're like. looking at the clock and we're like, I'm still tired and then by the end of. it I'm still tired but then we're up at. midnight watching Netflix or whatever it. may be saying, I'm still tired. And then. that becomes our reality that we just. continue to feed that fatigue and we're. just more and more and more tired. Whereas when you nudge your brain in a. different direction as you said, and you. said today's going to be a great day, you now start making great choices.

because you want it to be a great day. But what I love about what you've. defined and this is different and I. appreciate it. is that you don't talk about positive. thinking, you talk about accurate. thinking as being a healthier way to. live. And I really like that clarification. because I think the positive thinking. approach can also be quite toxic. Like. you just said about your father, it's. not that you didn't feel grief. It's not. that you don't miss him. Like of course, those are very real human emotions, but.

you know how to direct them. Can you. clarify for our audience today what is. the difference between accurate thinking. and positive thinking? Well, positive. thinking is I can have this third beer. and it won't negatively impact me. Or I. can drive at 125 miles down the freeway. in the rain and it won't hurt me. Positive thinking is I can stay up and. be on my phone until 2:00 in the morning. and it won't have a negative impact. They did this great study out of.

Stanford. Lewis Terman, 1921, evaluated. 1,453. 10-year-old children. And then they. followed them for 90 years looking at. what goes with success, health, and. longevity. And the don't worry, be happy. people, actually in the beginning of the. book I talk about the lies of happiness. And this is one of the lies, don't. worry, be happy. They died the earliest. from accidents and preventable.

illnesses. I have an older brother and I. adore him, but he's like 150 lb. overweight. I always sort of wanted to. be like him cuz I'm intense and I work. hard and I've always got projects and. he's like off at 3:00 playing golf and. you know, he just seemed to not have a. care in the world. But. my health is so much better than his cuz. I worry about it. And so you want to.

have the right dose of anxiety. People. with low levels of anxiety go to jail. because they don't like think, oh, if I. do this, a bad thing could happen. But. obviously, too much makes you suffer. And I love the verse in the New. Testament, John 8:32, know the truth, and the truth will set you free. And I. want to live my life. in truth. So, I want to tell myself.

always, so what's the truth? So, if I. think, Tana never listens to me, I'm like, well, is that true? Right? It's another little habit, right? To. always carry around those three words. I. don't have any tattoos, but if I did, is. it true? Would be one of the tattoos, cuz I don't want to believe everything I. think. And that's very important. Your. mind. creates trouble. You know, thoughts,

they come from all sorts of places. They. come from your ancestors. They're. actually written into your genetic code. I don't know if you've ever read read. the book, It Didn't Start With You. Yes, of course. Yeah, it's great book. Amazing. I love that book. And. trauma and successes actually get. written in our genetic code. And our. thoughts come from the voices of our. moms, our dads, our siblings, our. friends, foes, the news you listen to,

which by the way is no longer the news. anymore. Let's just be really clear, they bastardized that industry, and it's. about tribalism and money, and it's not. about news. I start every day with the. good news network. It's just a cool app. I've no financial interest in it. I just. love it. I'm always smiling, you know, sending. articles to my kids, and the music you. listen to. I actually did a study on.

rap, country, rock, and classical music. and heavy metal. We did a memory task. with high school students and heavy. metal was the worst. Classical was the. best. The second best was country, which. shocked us. Where did Where did rap fall in the uh. Right behind. um heavy metal. wow. Wow. Cuz that's like one of the. biggest forms of music today is rap and.

hip hop, so. And music so influences. how we feel. And so you want to be. careful with the inputs because you. might not think they matter, but your. subconscious mind's listening. Yeah. Absolutely. Well, that's why I want to ask you. This. is really interesting to me because So, I've been listening to jazz in the car. now. Jazz is my new Jazz is my new I. usually don't listen to anything. I. usually just talk to myself when I. drive. That's been like my habit for for.

years is I see driving as a moment of. spending more time with myself. So, I. generally drive to nothing, but when me. and my wife are in the car together, we. both like music and recently we've been. listening to jazz music together. But. what I find really interesting about. what you just said is that there's a. difference between what feels good. and what is good for you. So, someone may say, I feel good when I. eat junk food,

when I listen to music that isn't good. for my brain, and when I drink. But when. I miss out on that meal, I don't feel. good. When I choose classical music, I. don't feel good. And when I choose to. eat healthy and maybe don't drink as. much, I don't feel good. And so what I'm. fascinated by is our relationship with. feeling a certain way versus being a. certain way. So, when I started to have. to remove refined sugar from my diet,

which my wife encouraged me to do. I didn't feel good about that. Like that. was painful. I didn't enjoy that feeling. in my mind, right? Or when I started to. go to the gym every day or hike where I. hike outside every day now and when I'm. working out I don't feel good about it. but it's good for me. So I started to. discover that the things that are. actually good for me don't always feel. good. So how do you approach the idea of. feeling a certain way because I feel.

like everything that I do that's good. for me I didn't feel good about when I. started doing it. Now I choose it. because now there's. Because you're getting the benefit from. Correct. The benefits. I'm also feeling. the pattern shift. Now if I So I still. get a. craving for junk food. I still have that. craving sometimes. And maybe once a month now I'll be like, all right, I'm going to have a burger. Like I'm going to eat, you know, like a. burger and fries and whatever. And now I don't like the taste of it. Like after I feel really regretful and. I'm like, I didn't even like that. I. need to remember that that now I've.

changed my tastes. So now it's changed. So tell Talk to me a bit about that. Like why do we always want to feel happy. and feel good but we don't often make. the right decisions? Secret number four. is. love food that loves you back. And you're in a relationship. I want you. to love what you eat. But I also want it. to love you. And so if you're in.

love with alcohol and alcohol is clearly. toxic to your brain for so many reasons, brain and your body, then it's sort of like you're in an. abusive relationship. And you know, I just want people to. think about what do you really want? Do. you want that mountain of fries or that. swimming pool of alcohol or do you want. energy? Do you want clarity? Do you want.

memory? Do you want vitality? Do you. want creativity? And ultimately, what what I want. is I want to feel good. And I want to be good, and I want to do. good. And that comes from a brain and body. that work right. So, I don't want to. feel good now, but not later. Right? That's a 4-year-old's mindset. I. want to feel good now and later. So, the.

things I do day in and day out, I love. Now, it just it takes a while sometimes. to change your habits. The brain is. lazy. It just wants to do what you've allowed. it to do. So, what you said is just so. beautiful. It's like, "Well, I still get. the cravings and I'll give in and then. I'll go, why did I do that?". Yeah, yeah, that's how I genuinely feel. right now. I I just don't know, I just don't feel. awesome. So, for that momentary.

pleasure, it's like, well, is it worth it? Does it fit? So, another tattoo I'm. going to get someday. Does it fit? So, I. recommend, this is actually part of. secret seven, live each day based on clearly defined. values, purpose, and goals. And quite. frankly, hedonism, it's not on my goal list. It's it's not.

in my value list. And hedonism, so. giving in to every craving I have, is. the enemy of happiness because it ends. up wearing out your dopamine or pleasure. centers in your brain. And I always talk. about, you want to drip dopamine, don't. dump it. Because when you dump it with. the fries and the alcohol, the porn, you don't have much left. And so then. you have to go back and do it again. And.

all of a sudden chemicals are. controlling you rather than you are. controlling you. The dopamine gets so. addictive. And as you said with the pleasure. centers, now we're having to the same. amount of what we had doesn't even. fulfill the amount of pleasure. So we. have to have more to hit the same amount. of pleasure as far as I understand. Is. that correct? Like It's absolutely true. And fame uh. wears out the pleasure centers in your.

brain. And I've been blessed. I mean I'm. friends with you, with Justin, Miley, and and you know, we. talk about this over and over again. How. fame is just such a trap because you. know, once. you know, like I had a video go viral. and it was like 40 million views. I'm. like, "Oh, that's so exciting." And so. when the next one gets 8 million views, you're like, "Well, that sucked.".

And you realize just you know, how. stupid that is. You have to be very careful. And you. want to drip dopamine. How do you drip. dopamine? How does someone do that? Let's say someone who's not getting 40. million views or 8 million views, but. they're posting on social media, they're. eating a burger, they're having that. glass of you know, alcohol every night. Whatever it may be. Like how does. someone learn to I love that idea. I'm. thinking how does someone practically. drip dopamine? Cuz that's really. It's the micro moments of happiness. So.

for me, I mean it's like holding Tana's. hand. And then but noticing. and feeling her skin. And feeling the warmth, the softness. It's It's like being present, being. connected. Or seeing the hummingbird, Uh. watching the sunrise or the sunset, depending on where you live. It's being. present, noticing what you like way more.

than what you don't like. Plus, sunlight. drips dopamine. Pumpkin seeds drip. dopamine. Omega-3 fatty acids, I just. gave you a present of our vegan omega-3, cuz I know you're vegan and people have. been wanting it for so long. But, all. the vegan omega-3s, they don't have EPA. in them. So, omega-3s, there's EPA and. DHA. They're almost all DHA, but EPA is. critical for mood, for focus, for.

circulation. And it's the first product. on the market that I know of that is. just loaded with the right balance of. omega-3s. And what is the difference between EPA. and DHA? Um, they work on different. systems in the body. Both of them are. absolutely essential. And they're. essential, which means you got to get. them from an outside source. Your body. doesn't make them. And people who are.

vegan, it's really hard to get healthy. EPA and DHA levels from flaxseeds and. avocados, for example. Yeah. No, I can't wait to start taking. them. I'm really excited. What What am I. going to notice? What's it going to be. like? Well, your skin's already good, but your skin, your hair, your nails, that's the things people notice. But, their mood is better. Brand new study. out just today. Omega-3 fatty acids help. decrease the incidence of depression. Also helps with focus and helps with.

memory. It's just critical, cuz they. make up the fats in 25%. of nerve cell membranes. in your brain. I mean, that's hugely. important. The reason why I find this so. fascinating is that I think so many of. us are trying to solve a mental. challenge, when actually it's a physical. brain tangible challenge. Right? Like I. I'll meet a lot of people who are. saying, "Jay, I don't feel focused. I. feel cloudy. I feel no energy. I feel.

lethargic. What do I do to get motivated?" And it's. like, "Well, no, no, no. The. motivation's not the issue. It's like. you're dealing with a lot of other stuff. physically and tangibly that could be. solved. And then with good values, good. purpose, good goals, you can actually go. in the right direction. But just having. a good set of goals and targets and. values is not going to solve the fact. that your body is crying out for. attention. And I think I was definitely. in that space for a long time in my life.

where I'd I'd like had such a strong. mind that I didn't realize how much I. was weakening my brain. And uh actually, if I strengthen my brain, my mind was. even stronger. My body was even better. And you know, it was all interconnected. And so. for anyone who's who's listening to. this, I want you to remember that if you've. got an energy issue, a fatigue issue, a. focus issue, like. this is the podcast for you. Like this. is what I want you to listen to because. chances are it's because you're missing.

out on some of this stuff. Like there's. there's a part of your diet or something. that's not going into your body. Well, and if you think of it like hardware and. software Yes. that setting goals, which is so. important, and not believing every. stupid thing you think, which we'll talk. about, is so important. But those are. software programs. And you got to have. the hardware that will run it. Plus, I. hate the term mental illness. And you. and I have talked about that before. It's it's not mental, it's brain. And.

when you call someone mental, you shame. them. When you call them a brain, you. elevate them. So, we need to change the. discussion. Um and mental illness is in, right? Everybody's talking about their mental. illness. And but it's the wrong. discussion. The discussion is about. brain health. And yes, you have to. program it. But what's happening in our. society now, it's one of the reasons I. wrote the wrote the book, we're the.

unhappiest we've been since the Great. Depression. That depression tripled from. February of 2020 to August of 2020. Unbelievable. Never seen anything like. that. And children suicide skyrocketed. Depression, anxiety, drug abuse. skyrocketed in children. And it's like. the pharmaceutical industry is winning? That the incidence of antidepressants,

anti-anxiety medications like Xanax, went up 20%. in teenagers. That is a nightmare. because it's the wrong solution. And I'm. not opposed to medicines. It's never the. first thing I think about. It's like, let's get your brain and your habits. right, and then we'll see what you need. And more than half the people taking. medicine really don't need it. Last. year, 337.

million prescriptions for. antidepressants in the United States. That's insane. I mean, yeah, it's. alarming. I think we've all experienced. it in little. uh microdoses of our family, our. friends, the news. But then when you. hear it as a collective, it's super painful. I mean, how does a. society that's going through so much. pain? How do we collectively heal? Because that's like that we're all we're. further behind because of the pandemic. It's like it was already tough. Now. we're really dealing with If someone's.

dealing with a friend or family member. or someone in their life who's going. through that, it can feel overwhelming. for anyone. Like not everyone's a. trained psychiatrist, not everyone's. trained as a therapist to be able to. support that kind of individual. Where. would you suggest someone starts if. someone in their life is really. spiraling or struggling? Well, I would. start by following me on TikTok or. Instagram or You Happier or The End of. Mental Illness. There is This is a.

completely new way to think. And I. dedicated my book, The End of Mental. Illness, to my nieces. And right at the. beginning of the pandemic, we adopted. them because their mom and dad couldn't. stop using drugs. And I am so proud of. them because of how well they're doing. by just getting. the right supervision, the right love, the right food, and the right habits. Now, they grew up.

in trauma. Do you know the ACE test, adverse childhood experiences? Oh, we. should talk about it. Um. it's a test and originally done by the. CDC and Kaiser. And it's 10 questions on. did you experience early childhood. trauma? So, things like physical abuse, emotional abuse, sexual abuse, parents. who divorced, parents who were addicted, incarcerated, you watched one of your.

parents being beaten in domestic. violence. Okay, so 10 of these. questions. So, how do you score? You score zero, like you had no trauma. I score one. My wife is an eight cuz she. grew up in trauma and she wrote about it. in her book, The Relentless Courage of a. Scared Child. The nieces we adopted, it's a nine. If you score four or more, you have an increased risk of seven of.

the top 10 leading causes of death. If. you score six or more, you have a 1,200%. increased risk of killing yourself. You. have a higher risk of depression, addiction, virtually every bad health. thing. And our daughter is a one. So, eight to one. That's the goal, right? How do you take your trauma, heal it, and not. give it to the next generation? And when I met Tana, I just dearly loved.

her. I mean, she's beautiful, she's. smart, she's awesome. But I when I learned about the trauma, I. gave her 10 sessions of EMDR. It's a. specific psychological treatment for. trauma. It stands for eye movement. desensitization. and reprocessing. She ended up going for. a year cuz there were a lot of stuff to. work out. But change the trajectory. of her life. Um she's like my best.

friend. We like never fight. We get along. We. have the same goals. We don't live out. of the past. We live out of the present. and what we want for the future. And so many people live. with trauma. And they're living being. controlled. by the traumatized eight-year-old in. their lives when they don't have to be. And so, part of being happy is.

dissipating. the traumas from the past. Where can people do that test? That. sounds fascinating the way you. So, they can go online and just search. for Adverse Childhood Experiences. NPR. has a free. uh version of it online. And you pretty. much know once you take it. How How does. it take to do? Just. Like 3 minutes. It's like very short. It's just 10 questions. Oh wow. It's basically yes or no. Got. it. Got it. Um. but, you know, if you're four or more.

getting help, and EMDR is so cool. I want to hear more. about it from your perspective. I'm so. glad you raised it because I was like I. I've I've had a few clients I'm coaching. right now, and they've been working with. someone else in the EMDR space. Obviously, that's not my expertise, but. I would Yeah, I wanted to get your. thoughts on it. Like, explain for anyone. who doesn't know, what is the EMDR? Not. the name, but like what is it as a. practice? And then what is it used for? you do is it's actually an eight-step. practice. Is you take a good history,

and you're looking for like, what are. the top 10 traumas you've had in your. life? And you do this with a You do it with a. therapist, uh with somebody who's. trained and certified in it. Then, you. begin to target, so what's the worst. one? And what's the negative belief with. that? And what's the positive belief that you. would rather believe? And where do you feel it in your body? And so, you hold that image, and then.

imagine just being on a train, and we. get your eyes to go back and forth. Or, sometimes they'll do alternate tapping. on your knees, or there's something. called the butterfly hug to do. alternately while you bring that up. And. while you're on the train, you just sort. of see where it goes, and it'll often go. to the early traumas, heighten them,

but then with the eye movements, it. helps the brain integrate it from an. adult perspective, rather than living as. a four-year-old's perspective, and it. takes the distress. from like an eight or nine out of 10. to zero. And it's so cool. And it's one. of the fastest. therapies cuz a lot of times people go. to a therapist and they'll talk about. the trauma and they just feel worse. Because what they've done is they've.

brought it up. They've like say. subconscious, let's pay attention to. these awful things you've been trying to. forget. But it's the integration. And I. did a study that we published in the. Journal of Neuropsychiatry and Clinical. Neurosciences, a great journal, on eight. police officers who were involved in. shootings. And they couldn't go back to. work cuz they were traumatized. Because, you know, whatever you think about the. police, I work with a lot of police.

officers. Most of them are just kind, caring, service-oriented people. And. they don't want to hurt anybody. And so. they were devastated, couldn't go back. to work. I scanned them and in their. brain there's a pattern for trauma where. their emotional brain was working too. hard. And after an average of eight sessions, their brain had calmed down and they all. went back to work. With the EMDR? With the EMDR. Wow. And.

so and with the EMDR there's you're not. under anything, there's no substance, it's just No. And in fact, I just. sitting down talking to you, I began to. I made this connection because what. psychedelics do and people asking me. about that all the time now. I'm not a fan of it. Um. because I think it's risky. And I get to. see the fallout of people doing it that. have bad trips. What psychedelics do is. they begin to fill in some of the holes.

in the ruts in your brain. Like, you. know, if you've been traumatized and I'm. bad, I'm bad, I'm bad or it's my fault, it's my fault, my fault. It can help. dissipate that for some people. But. there's side effects with EMDR, there's. no side effects. And you come out of it. freer. So, my first experience with. EMDR, so what I do in my profession is, you know, I've often said I've been. bleeding on the cutting edge because.

psychiatrists don't look at the brain, which is completely insane. But, when I. started doing that 30 years ago, my. colleagues like hated me. It's like, "No, you shouldn't do that. That's not. what we do. We make diagnoses based on. symptom clusters. We don't need to know. about the brain." Which I'm like, "You. people are insane." But, I got. investigated by the medical board in. California for like a year. It was the. worst year of my life. And I had an EMDR. therapist working for me in my office. And one day I went in to Dr. Lendell and.

I'm like, "I am not okay. Do this thing on me." And after an hour, I left her office and I didn't care. I'm like, "It'll whatever will happen will. happen." You know, I love to say, my. friend Byron Katie says, "Argue with. reality, welcome to hell.". And my anxiety just went away. And. ultimately, they dismissed any complaint. against me. And I've obviously been.

doing this a long time. But, I just saw. how powerful it was. I didn't have to. stay attached to the pain. Mhm. I I mean. I'm fascinated to try it myself now. And. and like I think that's the only way to. know. And I but it's great to hear that. again I. just to clarify I think what you're. saying is that this is a great practice. It helps you move along and then all the. habits still have to be in place because. do you feel like people doing it Yeah, right? It's like others you can just go. back and like. dancing is a great brain exercise. But,

if you drink while you dance, you're. completely messing up the benefit. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, that's. great. Or ping pong tennis, brand new study out. today. I'm so excited that um racket. sports, people who play racket sports. live longer than everybody else, 16%. longer, longer than runners, longer than. anybody else. I love that because I play. ping pong, tennis, and pickle ball, so. I'm But beer pong is not going to help. You know I don't drink, so yeah. But you.

know, I literally play I play all three. of those. I'm getting a ping pong table, I play tennis, and I started playing. pickle ball, and it's like it's so much. fun. It's easy, I only need one other. person, easy to do. And it's good for. you. And it's fun, and you don't have to. be that good at it. And it loves you back. Yeah. So you just. have to find what are those habits, what. are those activities I love that love me. back. Yeah, that's fantastic. I want to. let everyone know, if you don't have You. Happier already, which is the book that.

we're talking from, make sure you grab a. copy because we're, you know, literally. touching the surface, but the lies of. happiness are fantastic. There are 11. lies in here that we're told. We've. talked about a lot of them today, having. more and having more of something like. love, sex, fame, drugs. Uh don't worry, be happy, we talked about that. positivity mindset. We talked about. advertisers and fast food. We talked. about needing, you know, technology. We. talked about and we'll talk a bit more. about that, too. We talked about.

constantly being in the news, uh. constantly being aware of the news. We. talked about alcohol, marijuana. We've. touched on a lot of those but I really. want you to dive into it because I think. those lies are what's governing our. pursuits. Uh but focus on the seven. secrets. of happiness to talk about that no one. else is talking about. You said the. brain needs targeted nutrients every day. to boost happiness. What are some of. those targeted nutrients because you. also gave me, along with the vegan. omegas, you also gave me what's it, theanine? Could you tell us a bit about.

why that's so awesome for calm, clarity, and focus? Well, especially if you tend. to be anxious. Right. Theanine from green tea. helps you focus and calm you at the same. time. And yes, green tea does have a. little bit of caffeine. But why green. tea is better than coffee is the. theanine helps calm down the effects of. the caffeine. And but theanine by itself.

is just magical for so many of my. patients. And those gummies, they taste. great and they have no sugar, right? Cuz. sugar for me would be a brand violation. and we don't do brand violations. Yeah. Where does theanine come from? What is it? From green tea. Okay. It comes Oh, that's where it comes from, right? It's. not just that, right? one of the active ingredients in green. tea. Green tea catechins are another uh. great substance for your brain. My. favorite of all of them. We talked about.

omega-3s, but my favorite is saffron. And I've been following the science of. saffron for over 20 years. Because over. 20 years ago a study came out showing it. was equally effective to Prozac. And I'm. like, "Whoa." Um and there's folklore in. India. India, yeah. My mom is going to love. this moment of this podcast. She told me. to eat saffron all the time. Yeah. that if you're too happy you must have.

had saffron. So now, there are. controlled trials. head-to-head against antidepressants. showing that it's equally effective to. boost your mood. But as opposed to. antidepressants, which can decrease. sexual function saffron increases sexual. function. Increases pleasure, increases. responsiveness even in some studies um. sperm motility.

Saffron has been shown to enhance. memory. And I'm like, memory, mood, and. sex. And at the beginning of the pandemic, right when my dad was sick, I'm like, I. make something called Happy Saffron with. saffron, zinc, and curcumin. I've taken. it every day since. And I just think. it's just a nice thing to help keep. people balanced. But then the. supplements in large part depend on your. brain types. That's secret number two.

Is what makes some people happy makes. other people miserable. And a. one-size-fits-all. with happiness is just not reality. Some. people need novelty, and they love. surprises, where it's type two. There's. five primary types. That's our. spontaneous type. But type three, the persistent type, they hate surprises and love routine. And so, know your type and the type of.

your spouse and children. And then ask. yourself every day, "Am I doing. something that makes me. uniquely happy?" Mhm. And this book's. going to help people figure out their. type. You have the types in the book. So, we have the balanced brain type, the. spontaneous brain type, the persistent. brain type, sensitive brain type, and. the cautious brain type. And the book. helps you diagnose and figure out which. brain type you have. So, you can do this.

with your friends, your family, your. partner, your your kids. And that's. going to help you understand what they. need more of or what they're missing. my nieces, they had friends over, and. they were in the. spa at home. And they were taking the. ACE quizzes with their friends, and. knowing each other's brain type. It was. such a great discussion. Yeah, I love. that. How do you people as in walk us. through some of the process you created. to help people figure out their brain. type? Well, you know, based on my imaging. work, I like I was looking initially for.

the one type of you know, where's. depression in the brain? And then I. realized, oh, there's not one type of. depression, there's seven. Where's ADD. in the brain? Well, there's not one type. of ADD, there's seven. That's why. Ritalin's controversial. For some. people, it's a miracle. For other. people, it's a nightmare. And it depends. on how your brain works. And then I. would realize I was seeing patterns of. personality. Like if your frontal lobes. work too hard, you tend to be worried.

and rigid. And if things don't go your. way, you're upset. And I have of my five. girls, two of them have this pattern. And I know no matter what I say to them, they're going to dismiss it. It's going. to bounce off. It's like they wear. Teflon. And so for later like shopping, I love shopping with my girls, and I go, "Oh, do you like this?" The answer will. be immediately no. So, for them, I know.

their type, and I wait for them to show. me stuff. And if I want them to do. something, I'll actually ask them the. opposite of what I want them to do. because they're just Do you know these. people? They're just sort of naturally. oppositional. And if I want them to go. to the store with me, I'm going to go, "I'm going to go to the store. You. probably don't want to go with me." It's. like, "What do you mean I don't want to. go with you? We don't spend any time. together.". That approach of personalization and.

individualization is just so needed, especially in healthcare, because like. you're saying, you can And that's what. me and my wife see that in us. Like our. diets are completely different for us to. be at optimal level. And our workouts. are completely different. Like my wife. is a high-intensity workout person, I'm. a low-intensity workout person. I just. don't enjoy high intensity. It It. doesn't work for me. I I feel more. inflamed. I feel, you know, more heated. in my body. I don't need that. I'm. pretty, you know, active here as it is.

And then my wife really enjoys it. It's. really great for her body. She feels. great from it. So, I just think it's so. fascinating that we keep trying to take. like whatever works for everyone must. work for me. And we get this trend or. this fad and. I think this diagnosis of your brain. type though, I think this is the best. thing that you possibly could have done. for us. people, they need carbs. They If you put. them on a ketogenic diet, they get. depressed and they get angry. I was on. Rachael Ray's show and she was the. persistent brain type. And on national.

TV, we're talking about this. And she said, "I went on a low-carb diet. and I was so mean. I wondered why my. husband didn't leave me." Because the. persistent brain type needs serotonin. And if you think about a higher protein, lower simple carbohydrate diet, it's a. dopamine diet. It helps you focus. But. if you give it to the persistent type, they focus more on the things that make. them unhappy and make other people.

unhappy. So, the wrong diet can cause. divorce. And so, you have to like target. it to the person. But it's also why. people get addicted to sugar because. sugar is a simple carbohydrate and sugar. raises serotonin and it makes you happy. Have you ever wondered when you go to a. restaurant why they immediately give you. bread. and alcohol? Because both of them drop. your frontal lobe. So, the bread, simple.

carbohydrate, raises your blood sugar and your. pancreas sees it and produces insulin. Insulin drives tryptophan into your. brain. Tryptophan makes serotonin and. you feel pretty happy, which is why. people get addicted to pastries and. bread and pizza and. donuts. And then they give you alcohol. cuz it drops your frontal lobes. So, if. they give you free bread and offer you. alcohol, they're going to make more. money cuz you're going to order things. you said before you walked into the.

restaurant you weren't going to order, including dessert. That is so true and I. love it when they give me bread. It's like my favorite when It is no. anymore, but that's like my favorite. thing that I love it when I walk into a. restaurant like, "Do you have a bread. basket?" Like, you know, it's such a. It's such a habit, right? It's It's all. habits. What. I find that happiness is such an. interesting goal. That's what I meant by. like we want to feel happy, but the things that you have to do to. feel happy are not necessarily the.

things you want to do. If some like. initially That's what I'm saying. Initially until it switches. And oh, by the way, and I start the book. with this, happiness is a moral. obligation. Cuz you know, people like, "Oh, you're writing a book on happiness. That's fluff. Can't you do something. more serious?". And I'm like, "But it's a moral. obligation." Why? Because of how you. affect other people. I guarantee you if. you ask someone who was raised by an. unhappy parent or married to an unhappy.

spouse or raising an unhappy child. whether or not happiness is an ethical. issue. Yeah. So, this is important. for us to seek happiness in the context. of health. Unbelievable. Everyone, that is Dr. Daniel Amen speaking about You, Happier. This is the book. I genuinely. genuinely recommend this book. I think, you know, there's some books that will. just transform how you think about your.

brain. I know that working with Dr. Daniel Amen has been really powerful for. my brain. So many of the habits I've. developed, consciously or. subconsciously, have happened through. our conversations. I mean, when you told. me about uh racket sports, that's what. led me to start playing tennis. And then. I started playing pickleball, and then I. picked I'm getting a ping pong table, and it was just There were these really. tiny things that we've exchanged in our. conversations. that have made huge differences in my. life. And so today, when you told me I. look great, I was like, "Yeah, thanks to. you, Dr. Daniel Amen." This is because.

of you. Uh but I want you to go and grab. this book, The Seven Neuroscience. Secrets of Feeling Good Based on your. brain type, the book's called You, Happier. Uh Dr. Daniel Amen, you know uh. this will be no surprise to you. We end. every interview with a fast five, which. is our final five. uh every time that we do this. So, you. have to figure out new answers every. time you come on. Uh but these are your fast five. So, the. first question is, what is the best. brain advice you've ever heard, received, or given?

Every day, ask yourself this question. Is this good for my brain or bad for it? It's so simple. It's the mother tiny. habit to have a great brain for the rest. of your life. Okay, second question. What is the worst brain. habit advice you've ever received? So, what is the worst brain advice or you've. ever received? Everything in moderation. Which is the gateway thought to hell. It's the gateway thought to cheating. As. soon as you hear someone say,

"Everything in moderation," they're. going to do something bad for their. brain. Wow, explain Let's dive into that. a little bit because I feel like that's. such a common misconception that people. have. They're like, "Oh, I need to have. a balanced life and a balanced diet, right?" So. Yeah, but balance for them, when they're. saying moderation, means sugar. Or it. means alcohol, or it means marijuana, or. it means. things that doesn't serve you well. It. It means comfort. It's their excuse. It's It's one of the little lies people.

tell themselves that keep them fat, depressed, and feeble-minded. Yeah. Let's Let's do I actually want to take a. little segway. Let's talk a bit about. marijuana cuz I think that that's become. so popular. I did it a bit as a kid. I I. messed around with it in my teens. I. never really got into it. You do my. brain scan, there's no there's no signs. of it because I was never too deep into. it. Uh and obviously since I lived as a. monk, I don't I don't mess around with. anything. So, I haven't you know, I. haven't drank alcohol for.

16 years or something like that. And. like no marijuana for 16 years. Um but. what is marijuana doing? Cuz I feel like. so many people do. feel like they need it or like it's. benefiting their life. Or it's become so. normal now. Like what are the what are. the issues? Well, they need it because it changes. their brain to need it in order to feel. normal. What is it doing in a way to. make people feel like it's helpful? What. It's calming things down. Right. In the brain. So, I published a. study on a thousand marijuana users.

Every area of their brain is lower in. activity. And then I published the. world's largest imaging study on 62,454. scans looking at how the brain ages. And. I looked at well, what accelerated. aging? And marijuana was the second. worst thing to accelerate aging. The. worst thing was having schizophrenia. But the second worst thing it surprised. me quite frankly. It was worse than. alcohol, worse than marijuana. It dulls,

slows down nerve cell firing. So, if you. have a busy brain and you're anxious, you feel like it's helpful. But it's. also been shown to damage some of the. structure of neurons. And kids who smoke. or use have an increased incidence of. anxiety, depression, and suicide in. their 20s. Kids who use have a 450%. increased risk of developing psychosis.

And people have been I've been a. psychiatrist 40 years. We've all seen. cases like that. They're cases now. because marijuana is so much more potent. than it was when I was growing up that. there's a word called scramiting, which. is screaming and vomiting at the same. time that if you're in an emergency. room, people like go, "Oh, this person's. poisoned with marijuana." Not to mention.

the 1,700% increase in babies being born. with marijuana and the trouble that that. causes. It's like people go to that. before. they learn diaphragmatic breathing. Before they learn meditation. Before. they learn self-hypnosis. Before they go. for EMDR to deal with their traumas. And. that's just not right. Like let's do the non-toxic things first.

rather than you know, and that's my. problem with psychedelics. It's like, you know, maybe at some point if you. have severe PTSD that's not responding. to anything, that could be helpful. But have you done the basics first? Yeah, and the challenge I find that most. people say is that non-toxic things are. slow. You have to learn something, right? It's not immediate. Like. meditation for example, or as you know, not meditation. Let's take What was the. first thing you said? You said um.

Diaphragmatic breathing. Diaphragmatic. breathing. to break a panic attack in 2 minutes. Yeah. If I just get you to breathe. Yeah. 4 seconds in, hold it for a second, 8 seconds out, hold it for a second. Do that for 3 minutes. You're going to. feel so much better, so much calmer. This isn't hard. Yeah. But it's not. taught. And so people don't know. No, yeah. And then they're like, "So where's my. dealer?".

That's the hard part. That's the hard. part. We're not taught and then we go. for the quick fix and then we get. addicted to the quick fix because it's a. quick fix and then that becomes our. reality and that's Right, but there are. other quick fixes that are quick Yeah. if we just are taught. Yeah. Um like you. know one of my favorite things is. killing the ants, the automatic negative. thoughts. Whenever you feel sad, mad, nervous or out of Write down what you're. thinking. Just write it down. And then. go, "Is it true?" And then write the. opposite. Tana never listens to me. Tana.

does listen to me. And then go, "Is that true?". And you'll often find the opposite of. the thought that's torturing you. is true. Is also true. blows your mind. When when you. that all the time with my wife. I feel. the same way. Dealing with your spouse. is very helpful. When I'm like, "Oh, Riley doesn't care. about me." And then yeah, asking myself, "Riley does care about me." And I'm. like, "Oh, I can find lots of reasons.". Yeah, it's it's beautiful. And then you don't have to believe.

Yeah. the negativity because where you. look determines how you feel. If you. find the negative, you're going to feel. negative and if you find the beautiful, you're going to feel beautiful. Absolutely. All right, question number. three. This was That was a great. tangent. I'm glad we did that. Uh. question number three, uh what is your current purpose? How do. you define it? My current purpose is to. change how psychiatric medicine. is practiced, to take it out of the dark.

ages, to end the whole concept of mental. illness and create a revolution in brain. health. Mhm. I love that. What a great purpose. Yeah, we're here to support. We have a big. gala. I'm I'm excited. December 7th at. the Beverly Hilton Hotel. Uh. The end of mental illness. We're going. to be. What's the goal of that? What's the. What's the purpose you do in that event? So, the purpose of the event is to. really raise money for the foundation,

for research and the whole concept of. mental illness, for education. We. actually have a new preschool course to. teach kids to love their brain called. brain thrive by five. And service to raise money especially. for first responders cuz you know they. got hurt really bad in the pandemic. So that they can get this new brain. health way. We're so excited. Carina and. Nava is going to be the MC of the event.

Miley Cyrus says she's going to come so. we're excited. Congrats. Very excited for that. I got. two more questions for you then I'll let. you let you go. All right, question. number four is. Um and is that something everyone can. come to by the way? That's that's a. public event. Sorry. going to um start advertising it soon. Perfect. December 7th. December 7th. Beverly Hilton. Beverly Hilton Hotel. It's a public. event that people can buy tickets to. come to to support the cause that you. just mentioned. Correct. Amazing. Love that. Uh we'll put the. details in the notes as well so everyone.

has them. Question number four. What's. something you wish you knew about the. brain earlier in your own life? So, 1991, I'm 37 and I'm a double board. certified psychiatrist. I was the top neuroscience student in. medical school. And I don't care about my brain at all. And I'm like and I was overweight and I. was only sleeping 4 hours a night. I was. chronically stressed.

And I scanned my brain cuz I just. started scanning. So I scanned everybody. I knew. I scanned my 60-year-old mother. She had a gorgeous brain and when I. scanned myself it wasn't healthy. And I. was horrified. And um I come from a very. competitive family. And I just really. unhappy that my 60-year-old mother had a. better looking brain than I did. So, I. developed a concept called brain envy. I always say Freud was wrong. Penis envy.

is not the cause of anybody's problem. I. wanted a better brain. And I think I've. spent the last 31 years just trying to. get a better brain. Wow. So, you just. wish you knew about that earlier. I wish. I knew about that earlier. I wouldn't. have played football. Um. and I wouldn't have. drank diet soda like it was my best. friend. Do you want to tell us a bit about that? Cuz I feel like soda, people have agreed. it's bad, but now diet soda has become I.

used to think diet soda was free. Right? I mean, it's like no calories. But the. aspartame and what we know now was. sucralose is really bad. So, there's a. brand new study out looking at sugar, sucralose or Splenda, and stevia. And. they did brain scans and cognitive. testing. And stevia, nothing happened before or. after. It seemed actually pretty safe.

That's amazing. Sugar, new learning. dropped. Splenda was the worst. New learning dropped, long-term memory. dropped, and you got a surge of slow. frontal lobe activity, which means it. deactivated your frontal lobes. And I'm. like, and you know, the yellow packets. are everywhere. Yeah, it's so wor- it's so scary. It's. like I don't know how the I don't know. how they haven't figured out a way to. just improve the food market as a whole. through all these standards. Like with. all these studies coming out, how.

haven't most of these foods just not. been banned? Because of the agricultural. lobby. Indeed. Right. That, you know, I mean, just we talked. about Pop-Tarts and how bad they are, but they're, you know, we're spending. government money to give them to poor. children, which will keep them poor. Yeah, it's so sad. I I find that's the. hardest part for me where I'm like. But but we can change it. Yeah. I know. we can. That smart people can figure out.

solutions to dramatically. shift the population. I don't know if we ever talked about the. Daniel Plan, the big project I did. Saddleback Church, We did, yeah. where. you can remind me. you know, thousands. of churches have done this health. program that I created with Pastor Rick. Warren. So, You just have to have. intention. Yeah, absolutely. There's. lots of good happening. That's part of the revolution in brain. health. Yeah. Fifth and final question, what makes you happier? Being here. makes me happier. Seeing you, being with.

people I love, makes me happier. I was at the Beverly Hilton Hotel today. getting ready for our event, and they. cooked a lot of Tana's recipes from her. cookbook, The Brain Warrior's Way, and. they did such an amazing job. That made. me happy, and I'm walking out to the. parking lot, someone recognized me. It's. like, "I love your Tik Tok." Of all. things. So, it's making a difference. Yeah. Makes me happy. I'm one of seven.

children, and I'm in the middle, so I. was completely irrelevant. And so, not. being irrelevant sort of helps make me. happy. I love that. Dr. Daniel Amen, it's always such a joy to spend time. with you, honestly, it really is. And. thank you so much for all the work. you're doing. I I know I lean on it. constantly, and I deeply appreciate it, and I hope that everyone's going to go. out and read the book, make a change in. their life, and start changing their. brain. But thank you so much for joining. us. Make sure that you follow Dr. Amen. on Tik Tok, on Instagram, on all social.

media platforms, and make sure that you. tag us with anything you learned, anything that stood out, any element of. this podcast. Feel free to share it with. someone else who needs it. Feel free to. cut it up and put it on TikTok. Like, there's so many amazing insights here in. the book, but also in this show. And I'd. love to see what resonates with you, and. I'd love to see what you're applying in. your life. So, make sure you share that. Thank you so much for listening and. watching. And Dr. Daniel Amen, thank you. for doing this so much. Thank you, Jay. Appreciate it. Thank you. If you want even more videos just like.

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