ANITTA: The Truth Behind Her #1 Hit... Those Were My Darkest Days

I was the first Latina to have a solo. song number one in the world I was. everywhere everyone was listening to the. song everyone was dancing to it and then. it got sick the global Superstar from. Brazil. it's when we have nothing we have. something to blame but when you have it. and then you're still not happy there's. nobody else to blame but yourself.

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for you in the world subscribe right now. the number one Health and Wellness. podcast Jett J shett the one the only. Jett it is 3:30 p.m. you're going on. stage tonight at 900 p.m. I want. everyone to know Anita no one has ever. come this early to on purpose Anita was. 45 minutes early and she has a show this. evening and she's not asking to rush. your way what does a show day look for.

you like when I watch you on stage. you're bold you're powerful you're. you're so energetic your performances. are so emphatic like how do you prepare. you're going on stage tonight how do you. prepare for that from now till then so I. think it's um to what need is for. everything uh few years ago and and. nowadays I think before I used to just. do so many things at the same time and. it was just this rough.

to conquer things and I wanted to reach. every opportunity do everything and it. was very like it was a lot for me you. know it was too much nowadays uh with. when it's a concert day I like to just. enjoy the day wake up. meditate listen to some mantras or do a. massage or something that I know that is. going to put me in a good vibe to. exchange energy with the people you know. so nowadays I have have this thing in my.

mind that I want it to be a great. experience in the beginning I used to go. on stage just thinking about the result. the later what I'm going to get from it. I wouldn't I wasn't just thinking about. the present moment of exchanging energy. with those people and nowadays I do so. for me it's really important for me to. get to this place with a good a circle. of white light around me you know and. you said you meditate what kind of. practices is that you said you do some.

mantras what does that look like for you. so I have a a a big circle of people. that help me I have a shaman a woman. that does. constellation a woman that does um it's. called a I don't know how to say that in. English but let me try to English sizee. the word it's called a radionic table. it's like you put some Crystals and. Stones and you do like a cing in in your.

in in your aura or something like that. so I have these different people and I. dream a lot so every time I wake up I. know what's about to come for example. yesterday I woke up feeling this crazy. excitement cuz in the afternoon I did um. Kundalini session uh activation of. Kundalini and this lady from Brazil her. name is sis and she does it online I do. it in person too but I she does it.

online and it's crazy cuzz your body. just moves and it's just it's it's so. special so I woke up yesterday feeling. like I was going to. explode it felt like my body was going. to do it was so powerful and I I heard I. I I woke up with this song in my mind. that I didn't know exactly what where I. heard this song before and I was just. singing I was like I think it was in a. yoga class so I called my yoga te. teacher and I said yo have you played a.

song for me that goes like this so I. sing for her and she goes yes so she. sent me the link and the name was heart. chakra that meant so much to me because. I woke up feeling like my heart was. going to explode and when I had this. song that was the name so yesterday. that's what I did I I was singing this. song I did a yoga he was so special. today I woke up different I don't know I. I had.

some bad dreams cuz when I believe when. we dream our soul they travel to. different places right and sometimes it. can be not as good place so I woke up. feeling weird and then I called this. lady that does this uh con family. constellation with me so I said I feel. weird and she was like okay sit down. let's meditate together so she guides me. and uh she opens this energetic Circle.

and five minutes 10 minutes later I was. already feeling amazing again and I was. like oh it's so different when you are. you have discipline and focus on keeping. your frequency high and every time I. feel like it's not as high I do. something immediately to make it better. so for me to go in the concert I need to. be feeling on my highest you know yeah. thank you for sharing that with us and I.

I love that so much because I feel that. you know if you're out of milk at home. you go and buy milk or if you're out of. bread you go and buy some bread and I. think sometimes we overthink when we're. out of inspiration or we're out of. alignment or we're out of the higher. frequency and we're feeling a lower. frequency we don't realize that all we. have to do is reconnect or plug in again. and that simply brings it back and I. think we overthink and we think oh God. go I'm not worthy of it or I'm not good.

enough or I lost it or it's left me now. and we don't realize that it is. something that we can recultivated and. rebuild and regrow into and so I love. hearing that today you w yesterday you. woke up feeling like this explosive. energy and today you woke up not feeling. that and that's kind of how something we. can all relate to I feel like we all. experience that 100% and usually when we. wake up not feeling that amazing for. maybe maybe from things from the.

subconscious or something like that we. we we're stuck in there and we don't. know what to do and we don't feel like. doing things and that's what happens. when we go on a lower frequency we are. aligned with and I believe in other. spirits and things like that we are. aligned with other spirits and energies. that want you to stay there so of course. you're not going to have the strength to. go there you know but it's important to. keep it and to do it just for the. discipline and and then you're going to.

start elevating elevating elevating and. exercises that can seem idiots idiotic. but it's not like one my Shaman when I. told her she was like okay so you open. your arms you do a circle and I was like. doing all this exercises putting my my. my arms up breathing doing it when I was. done I was like Wow life is great again. and it just takes you a little bit of of. discipline to understand that it's in.

your power and sometimes we like to play. victim victims saying like oh a victim. like some person did this and that to me. I feel bad because that person did this. that person did that and no you have the. power to feel good it doesn't matter. what the other people do or the energy. people throw at you all of that is real. and exists but if you're aligned with. yourself nothing that the people do or. throw at you can reach you because you.

are powerful in control of your all of. your own circle of energy you know yeah. absolutely well for whatever it's worth. I can honestly say that from the moment. you walked in and we interacted I was. like this energy is good so for whatever. it's worth it's working I felt the same. here such a good energy here thank you. but it's it's I I definitely felt that. as soon as I we met and we started. talking I was like oh wow this is I was. so uplifted immediately through your. space so whatever's whatever's happening. it's working uh walk me through what is.

what are some of the things that you. still find do bring energy down for. people or do bring our frequency and. vibration down like what is it for you. that kind of feels that way I think. comparation to be compared with others. it's one of the I think the most the. most important thing right now that. makes everybody go you know down because. we have the internet in our in our hands. and we're there it it was made to.

connect us but we're not connected at. all anymore instead of connecting we are. just falling apart and spreading. ourselves like and just. becoming judgmental and everything and I. just think when we look at other. people's uh Pages Instagram Tik Tok. whatever instead of just getting an. inspiration or like feeling happy for. something you start comparing and.

thinking why I don't have this I should. have that my life should be like this I. should the and then you never get to be. yourself because you're so consum. consumed by other people's lives and and. choices and then you think you need to. be this or or then you see another no I. need to be that and then you see oh no I. I should be doing this and never you can. get with yourself and be like what do I. really want to be what do I really want. to do and dependent on all the other.

people that I know or that I follow you. know and when we compare each others we. are not being fair to us to them because. we are born in different stles different. countries different body shapes uh. Society has so many rules to follow even. with all the Prejudice racism the. opportunities are not the same so you. cannot compare somebody that is born in. a country that doesn't have as much uh.

opportunities structure with a person. that was born in a place that has 50. times more it's super unfair there's no. balance so when you put yourself in this. unfair situation I feel like your inner. child gets mad at you it's like a parent. comparing two brothers or a sister and a. brother that was were born in different. times different situations they are not. the same gender.

and then imagine your parent doing that. to a kid that's what you are doing to to. your inner child wow and then you feel. sad you feel frustrated and your mind. starts because our mind works on the. purpose of not letting us suffer right. so when you start comparing your mind. starts creating this anxiety to think. about solutions for you to not suffer so. for me if I'm comparing myself with that. person what's the solution I should do. this and this and that so I can can get. close to it and for me it's it's too.

much and I used to be like that I used. to compare myself the whole time with. other singers and then I decided to come. out of Brazil something that nobody was. doing I when Brazil we speak Portuguese. not Spanish I was learning Spanish. learning the culture learning English so. why I was comparing myself to people. outside or to people in Brazil that were.

they were not even leaving Brazil I was. I was uh putting effort in something. that of course I would need to step a. little bit behind left leave Brazil a. little bit so of course I cannot compare. with the people in Brazil because they. are not putting they're putting 100% of. the time I'm putting 50 because the. other 50 I'm here studying learning. other things and I cannot compare with. the people that speak Spanish or or. English because they are in Spanish or.

English they're not in Brazil 50% of the. time coming back to Brazil to give this. and I have I had this always comparing. always comparing and um nowadays I just. feel like wow I was so I was so mean to. myself you know it's it's not fair to do. this to you you know and not even not. even about the things that we can see. which is like nationality. or physical type but but also family.

karmas family traumas you know past. lives so many things that we cannot even. know how hard it is for me or for you. it's just different yeah well said. absolutely I think you're so right that. instead of connecting we're comparing. and we get lost in that trap and it. feels like a prison yeah and you kind of. keep going round and round in a loop I. mean speaking of comparing you were. saying that a few years ago you before. an event you would have been like doing.

so many things and doing all this and. now you're like well wait a minute. actually I want to meditate I want to do. this what changed in two when my song. went number one in the world uh I worked. so hard for that I was the first Latina. first female Latin singer to have a solo. song number one in the world and it was. just like I was everywhere everyone was. listening to the song everyone was. dancing to it and then I got sick I got. super sick and usually when I talk about.

that people go like but what was it what. and we don't know I just couldn't walk. upstairs in my house I was super tired I. was super I wasn't strong I I couldn't. breathe well it was so many things and. then my bladder had issues and then I. did a blood test and it was like a lot. of cancer indicators it was just a lot. of things that was at the same time. nothing but it was it was so crazy and. then um I tried everything I stayed in. the hospital for so many months and just.

seeing all this success and I was not. happy at all I was just on this in this. internal fight with my Duality because I. believe we all we all have this Duality. which is our ego with our soul you know. and then I met this Shaman that she does. this method called a pregnancy map she. gets all the information s from your.

mother's pregnancy when you were inside. of her and then she understands the kind. the way your brain works the way your. how your soul your inner child suffered. what are your fears your traumas your. karmas and then um I went to her Retreat. for 5 days uh no cell phone no no power. no light nothing just nature a lot of. therapy a lot of uh crystals a lot of.

like rituals that are actually like. meditation three times a day and then to. eat we wouldn't eat with knife and fork. it was with the hands to feel what we. were eating the food that was planted. there and we could be part of it. thinking about how this food was done. the whole process until it gets to our. mouths and everything so I was there and. um this whole time right she she tells.

you like things that you want to give up. leave and things that you want to bring. to. you and I was just um you know when. you're so focused on what people are. saying or what people are expecting from. you that you don't listen to yourself I. was kind of like that and I was. um writing like I talk too much I'm very.

like. outspoken I'm I just I'm always with. different guys I talk too much dance Too. Much I I'm very like extravagant I move. my hands too much I did you know when. you just look at what people say about. you and you just want to be less I want. to I want to talk less I want to be. less I'm too much so I written all those. things and then what I want I want to be.

balanced I want to be calm I want to be. patient because my brother is very much. like that and my mom it's fun cuz. nowadays me my brother my dad my mom we. all went on this journey together and my. family too so they all do sessions of. Kundalini with me family constellations. it's so good um but my brother was more. of like a calm patient chill like my mom. and I was very much like my. dad dance.

party as they bro they they divorced. when I was one year one year old my mom. used to be more connected and it was. hard for me to understand when I was a. kid and nowadays I super understand but. it's not about nowadays it's about when. you were a child um she used to have. this connection with my dad with my. brother more and I had more with my dad. but he was out we didn't leave at to. same house so that was very painful to.

me as a kid um so I wanted to be like my. brother and I didn't understand that the. fact that we are different is the. special you know me as a kid of course. and then I put all those things and I. was so confused and the character Anita. and me as a person so different cuz I. think when when the artist is an actor. it's easy for the audience to see the.

actor acting and understand oh that's a. character and I don't know how this. actor is in life for a singer is. different because they see you doing. that on stage or speaking on. interviews and they think oh that's the. person yeah right they don't understand. that that's also a character that you. made to protect yourself that you're. that's your public character but your. real person is really different most of. the time times for me it was really hard.

and I was like yeah this Anita has. nothing to do with me I I used to be. chill I used to this very like mean to. me again yeah in the end of the process. my brother went with me because I was. like I'm going to this place that I have. no idea what it is I need somebody to. come with me cuz what if it's dangerous. it was not it was great but in the. middle of it in the end of it my brother. was like oh I'm so happy it came and my. brother didn't believe any of these. things right and uh I was like I looked.

at. him and I was. disgusted I felt disgusted because she. does a lot of like spiritual it's kind. of like let's say raiki but it's not. it's it's more deeper than. that and I looked at him and I was like. I'm. disgusted and then um she came to me we. were going to leave and she said how do. you feel feel and I said awful I think I.

wasted my time no way I was feeling this. dark energy inside of me was so. bad and uh she said okay lay down let's. talk and I laid down and she put my her. hands here on. me and when she did that my and we don't. take anything there right no drugs no. not micro dosing nothing it's just. meditation that's it and me as a kid I.

showed up in front of me this girl just. with my eyes closed you know and it. happens inside of. you and she was looking at me like. this and I looked at her and I was like. please stay here there's a demon here. there's a. demon sing these dark energy around us. we need to protect ourselves and she was. just looking at me like this. and I was like yes stay here stay here.

and she. said no it's not a. demon the little me the little me like. that it's not a demon you wanted to be. last active less this less that less. jumper less cuz. I less expressive I am not less I am. more so if you want to be less I'm going. to leave I'm going to let you here alone.

and wow I was. like oh my God no no no no no you're. perfect you're perfect the way you are. and I was just hugging like you're. perfect please oh my God you're perfect. and she was like okay are you going to. accept that I like to jump I like to. dance I like to talk loud I like to call. attention cuz I'm amazing you felt. lonely and I I survived I'm a genius I'm. smart I'm talented and you're not.

looking at it they want me to be less. and I was like no I want you to be. everything you can be please oh God oh. my God oh my God oh my God and uh since. that day and then when we make pieces. with each. other since that day I. know how to go there close my eyes talk. to my inner sh child and understand. what's. wrong and hug her and and see and and.

ask why we're not happy why what's. happening why are we mad why are we. feeling. anxious and then she tells me and then. I'm like okay let's get it done as. adults that we are you know and. sometimes we don't realize that our. inner Childs can be so. hurt that start doing things that we. don't like and sometimes we ask. ourselves why do I behave like that why. I'm so mad or why I'm so childish.

sometimes and it's because of that and. we need to learn how to. connect and then after that I just. started prioritizing different things. you know I started to. prioritize my peace my time take care of. me cuz I think people congratulate you a. lot about your professional. accomplishments. oh you're doing great you're doing good.

you're doing great and then you just. feel like you need that to be somebody. yeah you need that to be somebody and. you don't need I watched a movie these. day and I love watching movies that put. me on the good frequency I watch a movie. these days called becoming nobody I. haven't have you watched that really. good becoming nobody and um I I was I. woke up like some months ago I woke up. feeling and I watched this movie and I.

came back to my frequency right away cuz. you know there are tools that can help. you with a song or a movie and um I was. so there was this emptiness inside of me. that I felt like I could fulfill it with. success Awards streams. algorithms and these days a friend of. mine from Brazil that she was like. very poor very like she used to struggle.

a lot in life and then few years ago she. got everything she. wanted um money everything success and. she texted me these days and I have my. friends know that I'm very spiritual. nowadays and so they always text me for. something what can I do I feel I'm going. it's so it's funny and and I feel glad. she said I feel like I was happier when. I had. nothing and I told her I think it's. because when we have nothing we have.

something to blame so we say oh I'm not. happy because I don't have a house I'm. not happy because I don't have money I'm. not happy because I'm not. successful so we just be like okay it's. because I don't have that let's keep. going yeah but when you have it and then. you're still not happy there's nobody. else to blame but yourself wow and then. you feel bad because you're like wow I. have everything and I'm not having. what's going on what I'm still looking.

for you know I got all the awards I. wanted I got all the streams I got this. I got that and now I still feel that I. it's missing something yeah but it's not. it's because we were doing these things. not because we were feeling good or. enjoying the journey it's because we. thought that the result was going to. fulfill us on something that just. we we can do for ourselves yeah well.

said that's that's really powerful I've. I've never heard it put like that that. difference between when you didn't have. anything you had something to blame. whereas when you have everything you. don't have anything to blame and that is. so interesting because I think people. will say like oh money doesn't buy. happiness or Awards don't buy happiness. and it's like sure that makes sense but. the real thing is because we haven't yet. figured out what does give our life. meaning what does give us a sense of. connection ction and I guess that's. what's giv you confidence now in your.

career at this stage to shift and create. music from a place of I'm going to be. bold I'm going to be authentic I'm going. to be myself I'm not going to care about. because I think at one point you were. saying I was reading your amazing uh. honor for you in variety and. congratulations on that it was. incredible to see and I was reading you. were talking about how you know at one. point you did get really attached and. addicted to all those things as you do. as things are growing and things are. going ahead and you said well now I. actually don't feel that way I want to.

do you think that's just a natural. effect of having achieved so much and. then you think to yourself okay now I. want to do something more meaningful or. no I don't think so because uh I know a. lot of people that they still feel that. they need more they they they still feel. that it's because they are falling you. know say so they still feel like they. need more they want more so they want a. bigger house a bigger car a bigger this. more this more that and they are not.

understanding what's the point you know. they feel like and I think it's because. nowadays um the streaming the algorithms. the Internet it's just crazy how people. operate nowadays um it doesn't matter if. you had the biggest success for five. years if nowadays you're not selling as. much if nowadays you're not number one. anymore and you were people got used to. see you number one many times or top 10. many times now you're not even going to. top 50 they're going to start saying wow.

this person dead dead and I hate this. behavior of an industry to be like oh no. not hot anymore this person is hot now. that person not hot so that means. whatever this person did for these five. years I don't know it doesn't matter. because now this person is not hot. anymore oh cheesy oh bad uh don't. associate with this person uh this. person dead but if tomorrow. this person has a a success oh no it's.

super cool come on and that was driving. me so crazy and I just understood we. were um depending on these people's. approval to see if we had value or not. and I did not want to be um uh dependent. on that you know it feels like you are. in the people's hands and I don't want. that and I feel like we are only. successful and happy. if we know that if I lose everything if.

I'm not number one number 10 number 100. number. 300 I'm still going to be happy if yes. then great if no then you need to stop. everything that you're doing and start. working on yourself to make sure even if. you lose everything you're still happy. because then you're going to make good. decisions so I only um when I started to. go on this journey of understanding. myself and understanding that I was. doing things just because I was so empty.

inside and I felt like I was not good. enough I needed more people's approval. people's love it was like a drug success. is like a drug if you don't understand. it's like part of life so when I. understood that I was like I'm just. going to do the type of music that I. feel like if I get 10 plays if I have 10. million or a hundred I don't care I want. to feel good I want to feel H feel happy.

also I feel like everyone has their. moment God gives us the moment for us to. enjoy this amazing and then we go to the. next to evolve on something else yeah we. did what we needed here oh great you. killed it got all the awards all the. success let's go to another thing no we. get addicted because the people in this. environment if you're not there anymore. they're going to say this person nah dad.

not good and then you pay attention to. that and you're like no I can't lose. this so you keep doing all the things. that you were already tired of doing it. doesn't give you the same pleasure. anymore but you keep doing it just so. people don't say you. failed so I was like you know what I do. not care everyone can tell me I failed. oh my God she used to be a success now. nobody cares I care that's all that.

matters to me I don't care if nobody. cares you know there there's a I love. hearing that there's a beautiful Zen. saying that you're reminding me of this. Zen saying says that letting go is hard. but holding on is harder and often all. of our pain is coming because we're. holding on to who we were holding on to. who we wish we were holding on to what. people used to love holding on to what. people validate what people approved and. we're holding on to that and not.

realizing that Universe the god energy. is trying to gent take us away but our. holding on is what's making it so. aggressive and painful and that's when. you know if you're holding on to. anything really really tight and it's. being taken away it's going to hurt you. and and I think that's what we all go. through we don't want to gracefully. accept growth and so we sometimes get. aggressively pushed out and pushed. through it yes it's because I think.

Society has taught us that we need to. always be. growing but when they say growing it's. not inside it's outside so your house. cannot be the same house in 10 years you. have to be moved to a bigger one a. better one your job cannot be the same. job even if you're. happy no no no you got to be bigger yeah. but nature is one thing we we come here. and we have if we see how animals behave.

right they go to a tree the bird goes. there eat what's necessary for him and. leaves the human goes there and gets. what's necessary for him and let me get. more just to just to have just to see. that I have more just to show people. that I have more but then you're not. even you don't need it yeah you don't. need it but the way Society taught us. that we need more we need to be every. day bigger and bigger then if you go a.

little smaller in this area to go bigger. in another area that people are not. seeing mhm that doesn't it's not the. same value you know I chose now in my. life to I understood I went so big and. it was so good I'm down to keep going. and if it goes bigger it's cool if it. doesn't it's super cool too I'm happy to. sing to the amount of people that I'm. singing now where if it becomes because. I'm a little less crazy it's fine to me.

too because I want to grow in something. else it's so good when you do when I do. my spiritual things I feel so happy I. feel like nothing could give me this. happiness it doesn't end it's it just. goes and it goes that goes bigger and. it's unfinishable you know and um. doesn't give you anxiety it just gets. better better better and I'm like I'm. super down to be less successful here.

and make more money less not more money. make like less. money to get big in this other side. which is inside yeah you know yeah yeah. I always find that material language is. big and better bigger and better and. then spiritual language is deeper and. more impactful and and that depth is I. think what sounds like you're searching. after with was this the same time that. you were suffering with like. endometriosis was this was this like the.

hormonal changes bad and then it was. more and then I found out it was there. that and then it was my bladder and then. it was it was so many things and when I. came out I came out of the retreat the. cancer um levels in my blood was not. there. anymore I didn't have anything it was. just getting better and now I feel like. I'm in control I do feel like emotional. when we hold on to emotion and emotional. traumas and things like that it can get.

physical you know and when I do like. family constellations for example if. people don't never heard of it please. search because it's so good um when I do. that I feel sometimes pain in somewhere. while we're doing the the session I feel. like or my bladder or my heart or my my. stomach and then when it's when it's. over I feel like woo I cleaned it's. better you know so I do feel like it can. become physical for sure what what were.

the biggest traumas that have stayed. with you that have come up for you that. you feel you've carried because you. obviously grew up in the favellas you. grew up you know not in the easiest of. circumstances I think you mentioned. yourself that you're almost treated like. trash in Brazil people in the so long. and so like tell me about what are the. traumas you felt you've held on to from. your childhood that are now coming up. that you're healing now so there is this. one in. interesting situation in the path of.

this healing thing there was this one. thought that was always coming to my. mind right I was here being Anita I have. three different houses I have everything. I need okay if I want to retire right. now I can and I will live comfortably. for the rest of my life but all of a. sudden I was just here minding my. business and a thought would come to my. mind what if I get pregnant and I lose. all my money and I don't have money to. survive and then I need to uh work in.

the streets to get food to my babies and. to and I would be like why am I thinking. this why am I doing that. why and then I did this session with um. my Shaman and she said this is not your. thought you got this thought the same. way we get DNA from our parents and like. the hair the eyes the body we can get. from thoughts and energy behaviors and.

we don't realize that so I told her oh. for real and then we did a session to. clean this right to remove this from me. because it's not mine it comes from my. family so I did the session and I talked. to my mom I said Mom have you ever had. this thought of like that you were going. to lose everything we're not going to. have money this and that and that was. like right before my my birthday of 30. years old birthday so she said yeah uh.

when I got pregnant from you your dad. lost his. job and I felt like we were not going to. have money to feed you guys and I would. need to work in in houses as like a. housemate or something to buy. food and I was like wow that makes to. and just spent the whole pregnancy with. this fear of not having the money to. feed us so she was fearing it and there. is like I I produced a movie with a.

friend of mine called me and uh it talks. about this the the thoughts the negative. thoughts that your mom carries in the. pregnancy becomes um. neuropeptides in your in your in your. brain so that's why you have these. thoughts and I was like wow Mom and I. did the the session with the lady and I. got I never had this thought again. and then I was doing my birthday it was.

30 years old so. special and I I I had this place that I. wanted to do in Brazil and for some. reason every place I was trying it was. not available I was trying everywhere oh. not available because of this not. available because of that I closed one. place no not available anymore so. there's this one place just this one. spot and I said okay let's go what can. we do it's the only spot let's go let's. go so I sent my dad the invitation sent.

to my dad I said oh Dad the party this. year is going to be here he was like oh. my god daughter this. address is a my dad didn't know about. the the talk I had to my mom nothing. right and he's my best friend but I I. didn't mention. him um he goes oh my god daughter this. address used to be the company's address. that I got fired when your mom was. pregnant and I was like I'm dead wow.

like we're here celebrating my 30 years. old with the party like full of. everything that we are always afraid of. not having that's crazy and the same. address that's. crazy where in life this that for me was. such an answer from the. universe right and I was like wow this. is so meaningful and life is full of. these these situations that for mere not. coincidence at all yeah that's that's.

incredible it is that's really powerful. and I love that full cycle moment agree. and and and I love I mean the movie that. you made is that out where can we watch. that me the name is me my my a friend of. mine the one that introduced me to this. Shaman uh she did it and then she called. she asked me to help her producing it. and um sharing with the platforms and. everything so I was helping her on this. final uh touch of the movie and it talks.

about this about how you can get. Heritage from your parents not only in. your blood physical but also mental and. karmas that come from your mom from your. grandmother from because it comes from. father to daughter you know and um it's. important to clean it to to work on it. because otherwise we're here with no. purpose. we're not we we get we spend all this.

time here and we don't figure out what's. your purpose what are you here for you. know and I always had in my life this. um desire to understand and when I was a. kid I was very like that already I used. to dream a lot of about a lot of things. my mom tells me that I used to wake up. and see people and um I was always very. connected I used to tell tell them. everything that was going to happen in. my life you had visions of had you say.

everything I used to tell them like oh. I'm going to sing here I'm going to do. this our house is going to be like this. like this I I used to give them details. of everything and um my my dad he was. always very stressed with work and he. tells me that I used to come to him and. say Dad don't worry in the end. everything's going to be great you will. see you're so smart you're so cute. you're so nice in the end you will see.

you're not going to worry about any of. this I'm going to be a singer I'm going. to do this and this and that and it's so. fun when he tells me because I was. actually describing so precisely what. precisely what was going to happen yeah. I mean you've it sounds like you've made. so much spiritual investment in. transforming your mind your heart your. energy your space and at the same time. you've also made physical changes like I. was learning that you also were on birth.

control and then you left birth control. and I feel like even those types of. changes yes were linked to this kind of. internal change that was going on right. like walk me through how life has been. different when you were on birth control. and then when you left like and walk us. through that decision I just feel like. it's not natural it was not natural you. know and I was just and it's not fair if. you stop to think why just a woman needs. to suffer about about this situation you. know it's it needs to be a two people.

decision and prevention and and Care um. but with the hormones was crazy because. I couldn't be it was just never life was. never like this it was. like crazy to me and I don't get along. my body is doesn't receive this well you. know and when I started to accept uh to. go into more of a natural life also in. my my nutrition I try to eat vegan in a.

lot of moments not 100% I I I I made it. for two years and then wow it got yeah. it was really good I I hope I can get. again in the future um but the more I. can I think if everyone cuts at least. 30% 30% you you can still eat but just. 30% less of animals uh food. of and everything it's already so good.

for the world you know and also for our. energy I understand it's hard it's. delicious I I couldn't I I made it two. years and I'm back but just 30% less. everyone if we all get together in this. decision it's already a big shift for. the universe you know that's what I. believe and it changed a lot to me when. I started to care and and give more. attention and and priority to this side. of life cuz before I was just worried.

about being more successful richer make. more money and what what was crazy was. that I wanted to make more money be more. successful but I had no idea how much. money I had MH I didn't check my bank. accounts and I was just making to make. it I didn't even know nowadays I'm more. chill but I know I check my stuff I take. care of it but I'm like okay I can chill. I don't need a bigger house I don't need.

a two different cars I'm fine you know. yeah how was the birth control. negatively affecting you hormonally or. what were you experiencing um hair loss. um and then the skin goes crazy and then. the mood goes crazy and then you get. very depressed in a moment and then very. happy and then very angry and then it's. roll coaster it's a roller coaster and I.

just didn't want that and then and also. your. energy when it when it gets close to the. period you have no energy I just want. her to sleep all day it was just so bad. and now I'm just stable I'm always the. same you can feel that difference I can. feel totally the difference yeah but it. it it took from me more than a year to. get clean from from birth. control it more than than a year for me. to stop feeling the side effects yeah.

and it's interesting what you said about. that joint responsibility of. prevention between two people but it all. falls on the woman yeah it's two people. deciding something right it shouldn't be. just the woman's responsibility and I. feel like if it was the man getting. pregnant it would be very different the. laws would be different the the the. birth controls would be different. everything would be very different and I. think people don't realize these side. effects that you're explaining right now.

I feel like it's so common for women to. be on birth control but people don't. realize like how many other negative. impacts it's having in life whether it's. mood performance yes and I think also in. the. future maybe when you're older you're. going to feel more and before I had I. had a coper IUD and uh it was so bad for. my ethers so bad it was just a lot of. blood and it's worse for the. endometriosis it was a whole thing so.

nowadays I just use condom they exist. they exist for reason you know I pray. God I talk to the universe I plan with. the universe when it's the time I use. the condom and let's go no no kid. today I just I just um I can feel it and. uh I think the universe when you plan it. and when you communicate I communicate. with the universe so much I say okay so. I want to do this this and that and then.

you can send me the person that I. believe that it's the good person to be. the father be the father of my kids and. then or the mother and then I'll be. ready to do it but I want this answer. for for me to start this I need the. answer the universe to give me that so I. always talk I write a lot what I want I. check the eclipses um the moon and I. write according to that and then I feel. like all of this are.

like um natural safe rituals that you. can do that can only do good for you you. know and I like to take bath of baths of. plants. roses um where different plants that are. good for different I I love the. indigenous um thoughts that they that. they have and and the the way the plants. can cure everything and also the energy. so I use that a lot on me I do my own my.

own stuff yeah that's incredible I love. it and and you've talked a lot about the. difference between your authentic self. Lissa and then Anita and what I want to. know what are the differences in your. mind now as you've been it seems like. you've been aligning yourself like what. are the differences now yes so every. time I do family constellations I don't. know if you know exactly how this. process goes tell us I know a little bit. but tell us because good for this get a. therapist that is the professional she. opens a circle of energy and then.

there's a lot of people there right they. know nothing about your life nothing. about your going there to. treat so you just tell them you decide. the theme so you can say oh I want to. treat today I want to treat my anxiety. or I want to treat depression or. whatever so I'm going give an example. there was this day I said today I want. to treat self-love. and then it comes for me right so and if.

you go there and you want to cheat. whatever these people this 10 people. that are there they're going to get in. their bodies the energy of the people. from your family that caused your this. trauma in your body in that precise. moment MH so let's say you have um. anxiety and then you say you sit there. and say oh I have anxiety these people. one person is going to have receive your.

dad's energy it's not that he's going to. receive the spirit because your dad is. alive your mom is alive everyone is. alive but they get the energy and they. start telling you where this moment of. trauma was uh done designed draw like. written you know so let's suppose it's. because when you were 10 years old your. parents divorced and they were not. together they were fighting a lot so. they are going to talk as if it wasn't.

that moment and then the therapist will. propose like a a solution which is like. making peace with each other. understanding that's the best for your. kid is to for you guys to understand the. kid is half of each one and then you get. together and you're just one right and. then you're good so I did it many times. so with this constellation you. understand the importance of valuing. your dad and your mom or not not buying.

the fight of choosing one side because. you 50% of each one of that I'm 50% my. dad I'm 50% my mom I cannot decide who. wins the fight of their divor because. they are older they are adults I am just. a kid that are not the responsible for. that and I need to understand and be. grateful that they together did me and I. if I start if I choose a part I'm going.

to be saying by to 50% of myself so I'm. never going to be happy I need to be. grateful so that's basically what. happens in the constellation so when uh. when I do my constellation it's not only. one person that represents me it's two. one person always comes with Anita's. energy and the other was Lisa energy and. Anita is very like like a. superhero let's suppose if Lisa was like.

a kid insecure and afraid of being. judged afraid of not being loved if she. draw a superhero that's Anita the one. that goes there talk to people nothing. bad happens to me I'm the best I'm the. greatest I do whatever I want and um. that's how it came to life um and when I. was becoming a singer I put this. character in real life the problem is.

that I was working so much to fulfill my. emptiness and when I was working I was. Anita that I started to believe I was. just. that and not value what I was as Lisa. because I was insecure a regular human. that has regular feelings that can be. said that can be hurt that can be all of. that so. that was when my balance went like.

this and it's bad the other 50% cannot. be cannot feel like you're a show. you know it doesn't matter if you have. another one that comes out and. say I am. amazing the other 50% needs to believe. that cuz the other 50% was the one that. that create created this one you know. for sure it's the creature and the. Creator both are. amazing so I needed to accept and see.

qualities in both of it and Anita was. just like this crazy girl that comes. there and also comes from a place of um. I was assaulted when I was uh a teenager. and I had to speak about it because I. was afraid of someone in Brazil that. apparently found out I don't know how. and I was I didn't want my. my SEC my deep secret to be.

spread not by me so I needed to talk. about it um and after that happened when. I was a teenager I felt like if I was. like. this no guy would have would have done. that to me so I created Anita from this. moment of pain and and sadness right. because of that I cannot feel like. letting is less you know I'm just a. human that has the same insecurities and.

fears and and the feel the the feeling. like half of me had of Anita that oh. yeah that's the only good thing that was. making me really. bad and uh I also think that maybe. that's why me as a character Nita was. just talking so much about sex about I. do this some times I I wasn't even doing. I wasn't even doing not even 10% of.

what I was saying but I needed to carry. the person that person I was really. important and that um that hurt me my. other side for for because we feel like. come on I'm not do that's not real. that's not real why am I doing this and. sometimes that would push me away from. relationships that I really wanted to. have and um. I. just and and at the same time this.

battle would never let me get interested. on anybody cuz I was always feeling it's. like a subconscious thing I would always. feel like oh yeah I'm going to get hurt. so I would never be interested on. anybody or I would be for three months. and then I would be like ah next next. battle next challenge and that's not. healthy yeah you know it's different did. you believe in right person wrong time. at the time and now you have I believe. in that.

um I believe that when things are. supposed to happen they are going to. happen no matter when it can be now it. can be later it can come back so I don't. believe I think that's more it but I. also believe that the things that. Society put in our head can mess up. relations all types of relations for us. for example. I'm a singer I'm successful um I have my.

money etc etc if I decide tomorrow to. date a regular guy that I met. in in a bar at a. bar people be like uh that's all she. could get o oh my God Anita with this. nobody G if it's a man a successful. singer rich guy meeting a girl in the. street that works in a store or Works in. a bar or whatever they'll be like so.

nice did you see oh my God he met her a. girl she was a bartender oh my God and. he Val her so much oh so nice it's so. sweet what a great. man but if it's a famous. successful rich woman oh my God that's. all she could get a bartender G sucks oh. no no real man Val her U it's kind of. like you need a man on your level or.

more to decide if you're valuable or. not so I think with Society and also. like for a man if you were with a woman. more successful than you they were like. oh my God you see the woman is so much. more and then it up this guy's. self-esteem so I think it's um ying and. yang situation that Society is not. understanding that women can women can.

be y or Y or you know yeah yeah yeah and. um I think that messed up with a lot of. good opportunities of people getting. together because of society's um. statements yeah that's I mean that's a. really really interesting point and I. think there's so many versions of that. like I've met people are like oh well I. can't date that person because if I date. someone outside of my community. then people will say oh he doesn't date. people in our community and or or vice.

versa and I feel like there's so many. versions of that and the gender. breakdown you just shared I think it. sadly is true and that's why we can't. live up try to live up to society's. expectations exactly we're we're always. going to give away throw away Amazing. Life opportunities yes I know someone. was saying to me they can't do a movie. because people wouldn't want to see them. with a certain person and so people are. giving up huge career opportunities for. themselves. because they're worried about what. people will think or what people will. say and I mean talking about that you.

recently paid homage to Native Brazilian. res religions in your new music video. yeah and you know which is deeply. important to you and you you have this I. think elegant way of balancing your. beliefs and even today I think we can. see what a spiritual individual you are. but not everyone was happy about that. like I think it was like something like. 200,000 people decided to not follow you. anymore yeah now it's 300,000 now. 300,000 right like walk me through why.

it was important to you to pay homage to. those Traditions why they were so. important to you and then how do you. respond and react to the feeling of. 300,000 people now you said so I already. knew that was going to happen because uh. people are very the intolerance of. people of their beliefs and different. beliefs is so it's crazy it's crazy um. people don't accept from in my opinion. religions are it's like veins that go to.

a heart they just are in different spots. that's beautiful but they get to the. same place to be a better human to. evolve that what's religion is to me and. I believe in all of them you can see I. go to The Shanti Shaman to the the. church with my mother and then my Yoruba. religion so my mom is very Catholic. my dad my dad's family brings with him.

the Yuba religion right that this. religion comes from heritages of like. Souls right um this religion was. originally in. Africa and when the slaves were. kidnapped by from their countries to be. brought to America South America they of. course had their beliefs and relig. religions but they were very bad.

punished uh if they were exercising. their religions in um in Brazil or. whatever so they would kidnap the slaves. bring to Brazil and tell them now you're. Catholic we don't care and you cannot. exercise your religion here and if they. did. punishment killing not only punishment. in Brazil until nowadays people get into. the temples teros the temples of Yoruba.

to break and kill in the name of. Jesus so I honestly don't believe Jes I. believe in Jesus so much and God. everything but I don't believe Jesus. would come to anybody such a a bright. Soul would say if you see somebody doing. that kill this person I don't I can't I. don't believe. that I Think Jesus for me is forgien.

forgiveness is love is understanding. each other's um moment and and how the. the speed of each one to evolve right. it's harder for ones easier for others. it's faster for ones for others it's not. I believe Jesus and all the angels and. all the odas they're all ready when a. soul. asks for forgiveness and for help I. believe they're always ready to help so.

I don't believe there is a a God or a. Jesus that punishes somebody for not. following their the. rule I don't believe in that and my. religion believes in the forces of. nature Yuba in Brazil is called. kandom we believe in. there are entities of different like the. waterfall the fire the river the forest.

the the. rain the sea so that's what we believe. the sea Yan is from the sea the fires. yansa uh the waterfalls is osum the. forest is oasi so we believe in these. things and the nature energies because. of the fact that a lot of people can um. impersonate or feel the the energy in. our bodies they say it's the demon MH.

but you can't just say things without. going there and searching for real. getting close and understanding okay let. me see what is this and I feel like when. I'm in my religion and I follow it since. I'm a kid because of my dad um I never. felt bad I always felt like this peace. and I can't believe a evil force can. just make you feel like so connected to. God and so good you know and avoiding.

things that are not good for for you you. know when we're there we cannot drink. alcohol we cannot you know it's it's. clean it's beautiful we don't believe in. the devil we don't believe there is a. devil there is a demon we believe in. humans that can get to a very very low. frequency a very dark place where their. souls and then they can become evil and. mean so I don't want to pass the. responsibility I don't want to just say.

oh there is the devil and the devil is. going to make me be mean no we're all. humans and we have the choice we have. the dark side inside of us and if we let. it go we're going to become that we. cannot get find other another person to. blame oh no I did that because the devil. no you let's take. responsibility you know I so we I don't. believe in My Religion we don't believe. there is the demon and God there is God.

there is like beautiful light spirits. but there is like people Souls that can. get to a dark place and it's our. responsibility to decide if we want to. go there or if we want to go there not. because we are scared of the law and the. justice of a punishing God because we W. to be good I want to be good because I. want to feel good I want to be a good. person not because I'm scared if I die.

oh my God they're gonna come and kill me. no you know yeah and it's it seems like. that because you knew that you were. simply trying to share and express your. values and your beliefs and your homage. and you were already disconnected from. the fact that people may have a negative. Viewpoint towards it yes I didn't I. actually did not care cuz I think. whoever wants to follow nowadays I chose. this whoever wants to follow me follows.

me if it's 10 people if it's a million. amazing I will be happy with 10 I will. be happy with a million I don't care um. but I just felt like in Brazil it's so. much Prejudice I feel like I like to. speak up about a lot of things in my. country not only in my country but. whatever I feel like uh I have knowledge. enough to speak of I do it um or I. started studying and then after some. months years I'm going to speak about it.

when I feel like I I know enough it has. to be a reason why we get famous or we. get recognized or we get people to. follow us we have to use it for. something I can't think like okay God. gave. me 65 million people to be looking at. what I'm doing and I'm just going to. tell them buy this buy that use this use. that and make money and be rich I can't. I feel like I need to give back good.

things for people to have the same tools. that I have to be better humans to be. good and if they feel like they. struggling something I want to if I have. the power or the knowledge to send. something good I want to do it so I. always felt this um Mission this. responsibility in me and I don't judge. who don't I feel like each person has. your own nose but. because when you do this that's what.

happens you lose people you get. criticized and some people cannot take. it and I understand that so I don't. judge I can take it cuz I don't give a. damn I couldn't care less so I do it. because I feel like a lot of people are. in need of these things um cuz I know. how much my religion helped me when I. was struggling when I feel like I didn't. want to live life anymore cuz it was not. interesting cuz I was not lovable I know. how much the religion taught.

me that I am part of the nature I I I. belong to this so I want more people to. feel that if you want to feel great if. you don't it's okay you can do you know. yeah yeah it's one of the things I've. been thinking about lately is when you. get into the top 1% of any industry or. any place you get a lot of 1%. experiences so some of those are these.

really tough experiences of lots of. people disagreeing with you lots of. people may not like what you're doing. the choices that you make and then at. the same time which is what you happen. happened to you recently you recently. joined Madonna on her tour and did this. most historic event of I think 1.6. million people like I think that's the. largest ever audience at a concert and. it's almost like you go from having this. experience of you know having hundreds. of thousands of people unfollow you to. then having these moments where you're a. part of history I mean what did that.

feel like what was that experience like. it was great in Brazil uh they do these. concerts in kopa Cabana Beach I did once. it was but it was New Year's Eve so it. was five million people oh okay oh so. you've done a bigger one no but it's. because it was New Year's Eve come on. Madonna was it was there no it was her. she was the event it and she got a. million 600,000 people it was crazy but. a lot of people in Brazil do that in New. Year's Eve at the beach and it's amazing.

but also her. concert had a lot of. conservatives saying like oh my God this. is so oh the devil the H like she was a. woman that abdicated her life to fight. for. people for their sexualities for the. LGBT TQ Community for women to be free. to feel pleasure cuz just men could feel.

pleasure and she fought for that and you. have to be really Brave to face and in. that time when she started it was crazy. cops coming to her her concert and all. the things that she faced. to that cuz she knew she was bringing. acceptance to people that wanted to come. out that wanted to be proud of being gay. I wanted to be proud of being lesbian of. having feeling pleasure as a.

woman so to me that was really important. that was a woman celebrating like with a. million gays a million and something. gays at a beach that they were free to. be. gays that was amazing you know not only. gays but like I mean families. accepting gays lesbians TRS. it it was so important but a lot of. conservatives were like oh this is the.

devil this is this this is that and I. just feel like we have the choice of. doing whatever we want and we don't need. to judge our we're not judges of. anything before judging another person. we got to see our own. situations so I just don't feel if you. don't want to do it you can just go do. your thing and let people do what they. want want you know we're not judges here. we're all Souls looking for evolution.

and um that was a I was so happy that. she she invited me I also fight for so. many things that I believe in my country. you know and I and I try to help as much. as I can um nowadays mostly indigenous. in indigenous causes because um the way. politicians are killing the Amazon it's. crazy the way they're just not giving a. damn to the to the Amazon to the. environment it's insane so I like to.

fight for that because Nature has no. voice indigenous are not on social media. they are not influencers they are there. they are very good influencers but still. don't have voices um they have. indigenous Origins so I like to do my. best and I was just so happy to be there. I was so happy that she invited me yeah. how did she invite you how did she reach. out how did that come um we had a song. together on her album some years ago a. funk song on her album and uh then when.

she came to Brazil the first thing she. said okay we got to do. this and I actually couldn't and then I. was like moving so many things around so. I could be there it was so important and. she also invited uh Pablo vitar which is. a drag queen very good great singer of. Brazil very successful famous drag queen. of Brazil that's amazing aming I mean. you know when I'm speaking to you today. and I think when you look at someone.

like. yourself it's very easy to forget the. challenges and the hardships that. someone's had on the way up you know. when you see someone successful I think. a lot of the time we even if we knew. them on the way up we start believing. people were an overnight success and. that's when you were saying earlier that. you know then we start to write people. off we find the next person whatever but. you've talked a lot about you know even. like looking at it from a Forward. Thinking perspective you talked about. just challenges you had with your record.

label and then finding the right label. like could you walk us through some of. the key challenges you've had in even. breaking out because I think the odds of. someone like yourself from the FZ who. does this is so rare and difficult and. you know I mean I don't know what the. odds are but I'm guessing it's like you. know one in. whatever walk us through some of those. key challenges that you think you've to. break through on the way up not now but. the ones that you've had on that journey. and maybe the record label one is a good.

one to to start with I think no I think. the first one was in my country because. I come from the favelas from the ghetto. from the communities and the Rhythm that. we do there is Funk which would be like. the hip hop in the '90s here in the US. people getting arrested for doing it uh. people suffering a lot of prejudice so. that was the first one that I was like. wow people don't want me in restaurants. people don't want me in magazines people. don't want me anywhere they think I'm. the show because I come from this.

environment you know from this that's my. origin um so that was like the first one. for me to fight against that and just. like um I I couldn't even like find a. management I was my own manager for so. many years you know I just I would be. the one going to the brands trying to. convince them to support me or to the. radios to negotiate my songs yeah for. them to even play it yes me and my.

brother to negotiate like concerts and. everything like that it was just me and. my brother for so many years and then. after that I think like coming out and. convincing label coming out of Brazil. convincing label team everybody that. this could be something you know because. the last time we had a successful artist. was 50 years ago with tomin with girl.

from. Ian and Venus de. Mor and a. woman it was in the 40s with Cara. Miranda so they were like no that. doesn't that doesn't happen Brazilians. no because when you say like a Latin. singer Brazil is a Latin country but we. speak Portuguese so it's very different. there is a not their barrier because we. speak Portuguese not Spanish so the. songs that go on in a Spanish Market.

don't happen in Brazil whatever happens. in Brazil don't happen in the Spanish. market so for me to convince the label. or the team my own team my own brother. that this would work your own brother. was really hard he was like wow you. finally when we broke the presice here. you want to go to another thing we. didn't even take time to rest but again. my my emptiness was like no we're going. to get it we're going to conquer the.

world and um I just wanted to I like to. try new things I I like to challenge. myself you know I get bored very easily. you know not only of men now it's going. to finish for God's sake um and I was. that's changing now that's changing. thanks to Jesus thanks to the spiritual. journey um and there's also it right. because people think women when it's.

when a woman doesn't have a relationship. for many years because that man didn't. want it no babies cuz I didn't want it. let's see what happens from now on but. it was a big Challenge and um my brother. was always like oh my God okay let's go. he would go just to be with me to. protect me but nobody else they would. just be like I am not going with this. girl she was crazy you know and I would. put my own money W I would just do you.

know just from what I believe and go for. it I just think the difference was that. before I was very anxious and pressured. and nervous about it and always like. with this feeling of like no I need to. get it I need to get it and nowadays I'm. like it's okay whatever happens happens. but this was a big one and now with and. then and then it's funny cuz when I. started to like bring people from the. Spanish Market to Brazil and then come. out with my my stuff to outside and.

things started to go right and go well. then everyone wants to figure out how to. do it everyone wants to do it. too and I'm like okay and until nowadays. like um my album was it's not an easy. album to put out it's a funk Brazilian. Funk album people don't do Brazilian. Funk there's no playlist to add my songs. it's not in it's not in Portuguese so. the Brazilian Funk playlist it's not in. Portuguese here outside there's no.

playlist of FR or funk in English in. Spanish neither so you're inventing it. though you're inventing that I'm. basically doing like something let's see. if everyone joins this crazy I'm sure. they will thing let's see what happens. the only reason I could put this album. out now it's because I was super sick I. thought I was gonna die remember and I. was like you know what I'm gonna because. I've been trying to do this album for so. long but everyone was always like no.

it's it's a fail this album has no place. to put and and you you see the okay this. is country this is Pop this is your. album there's nothing where is it going. to be it's just going to hang. around and um it took me a very. like spiritual place of Detachment to be. like okay I'm going to put out whatever. happens happens so I was sick I thought. I was going to die I was like I'm just. going to do an album I like an album.

that I would do if I didn't care about. any of these things cuz I'm dying so. whatever so I did this album exactly. like that and it just got better got. better I didn't die and the album is out. and um it's funny because uh still has a. lot of like uh challenges with this. album because it doesn't have a place to. sit and um but I honestly don't care I'm. so proud I love the album I can't stop. listening to it and most of my albums I.

would do to try to get streams and I. wouldn't listen to it but this I'm like. so proud of it I don't like touring. because it's so for me it's such a. struggle to be flying from place to. place with no home being in hotels uh I. carry a bag just of like cleansing to. the hotel I get there I have a sage I. have candles I put mantras in the rooms. very loud and be like woo clean this. Jesus come clean this bedroom please. this bed I put sprays um but for me it's.

like a a big pressure to be flying from. City to City I called all my priests and. and shamans and I was like help me in. this stour cuz now I love this album so. much that I'm like I want to do a tour. cuz I like dancing to this album I like. singing it let's go so we're doing it. and um tomorrow tonight is my second um. my third concert from the store and um. I'm doing good but I told them help me. here cuz I need all this spiritual.

connection for me to not go crazy cuz. it's a lot of hotels jumping from place. to place you know it's not healthy. mentally it's important the routine and. to have like grounding absolutely onor. it's important so for me I'm like okay I. need I need support spiritual support. but I love this album so much that I was. like going to do it because I have so. much fun on stage doing it if I'm. singing for uh 2,000 people 3,000 people.

or 40 or. 50 it's the same I just feel really. happy I know you talked about the. challenge of changing record labels and. you talked about this pain point of just. like I think at one point you said like. you would literally give all your organs. away if you know if you could get out of. it walk us through those kind of. decisions because I feel like if you're. not in the music music industry we don't. actually understand what's controlling. what and how things Interlink and we.

don't know what artists are going. through so from that perspective if you. could tell us about that transition so. about record label I just think I do. think nowadays that I wasn't that mature. on the way I did it but maybe if I. didn't do that way I wasn't be in the. position that I am right now so we would. never know it is what it is I would. never be like oh my God I never regret. things CU I think things happen for a. reason it's just I really think the way. things happen in business should change.

a little bit you know um cuz when we. are when we are chasing something we. don't know what's there right so we just. we go through deals and. situations not knowing what's the. reality when we get. there and that's a very tricky point. because if I'm in this side and I know. what's the reality why would I do.

something to a person that I know it's. going to be there and it's going to be. different you know so I just. think business in general not only. labels but yes labels too um the. Investments the things I don't know if. it's because I'm more of a business. person than just the artist I don't feel. like I have the perfect Voice or the. best dance or the I think I have a. little bit of everything and then it I I. get there you know it's a a combo um I.

just. think the Investments and the it should. be more clear so we understand why they. do some type of things and why you. should do some type of things but. sometimes in all the business all the. industry and then it's not only about. record labels people come here and they. say yeah yeah let's do it and they leave. and they're like H forget it and this. should not be like that things should be.

and for me things are very I like real. stuff real talk you sit down to me I. will tell you the problem. is and I expect you to say okay so the. problem here. is and I'll be like okay how we get this. sorted we do this we do do we do that. cool cool we both do it but sometimes. most of the times it's not I sit and I.

and I'm never going to change so I just. sit down and I'm like here's the. problem that doesn't mean I don't like. you doesn't that doesn't mean you're not. a good person that means we have this. problem yeah and nowadays me and my. brother we work together for so many. years so when we have issues in a. company we we have a company together we. have crazy. fights let's go to the movies let's and. we go cuz we love each other we can. discuss whatever I said is what's going.

to happen whatever he said is what's. going to happen boom and we have the. ability of still look in each other's. face and be like I appreciate I love you. let's go do whatever but people have a. very hard time on doing that and I don't. I will never understand why but that's. how things work they just talk here I. talk my real. they talk whatever is necessary for.

you to shut. up and then you go home and you see that. it worked for nothing for no reason you. spent two hours of your life that you. could have been sleeping taking a nap. literally and then people have this but. I think it's an all Industries I don't. think it's only in record labels I don't. think it's only in music I think it's. everywhere people when work have a very. hard time on sitting down and being. like the problem for you is this for me.

is this let's do this yeah and then do. what they actually agreed it it's so for. me it's I don't know maybe I would never. get. to understand uh the way business run. that's why I go slow and you know with. my hard times but I go that's brilliant. I love hearing that and I can see just I. want everyone who's listening if you're. not watching when I'm sitting with you I.

I it's so resonant to me that there's. such you it's such a peaceful place with. that and what I think's really beautiful. and special I was in Bhutan recently. this year and bhutan's known for. measuring gross national happiness not. GDP so they measure happiness there and. they have spiritual tradition and. culture it's landlocked between India. and China it's a tiny country but they. have this incredible heart of. spirituality that runs through. everything they do uhhuh and the King.

famously said they measure g& gross. national happiness so I was visiting. there this year and I met a filmmaker. there his name was po very wonderful. gentleman very very talented and he with. a very small budget for a movie made a. movie that got Oscar nominated but. Bhutan wasn't even on the list of. countries to have an Oscar nomination. but because of him now the movie got you. know the Bhutan is now on the list and I.

often think about that with cultures. Traditions genres that we don't know. about yet that there aren't a Grammy. award for that there aren't you know uh. like you're saying like there isn't a. place for Brazilian Funk like what. playlist is that go on but I think. that's what the world is looking for. right now this opportunity to be. introduced I'm always looking for. discovering new I was was I was talking. about records I I really got into. collecting records and I was traveling. and I really got into Brazilian Jazz. lately and I never knew about Brazilian.

Jazz growing up and if it wasn't for the. ability to bump into something and so I. actually think what you're doing for. music for the audio library for for. people to have these experiences is is. really cool and Powerful because just. like Po who's trying to tell the story. of Bhutan that like you like you asked. where is that a lot of people don't know. where Bhutan is and they don't know what. it is but because of power now they can. watch his movies and understand Bhutan. and similarly with you someone who may. not know about Brazilian Funk is now.

going to have the opportunity to. understand what that is and what that. feels like and and you think about that. like someone had to be first whether it. was hip-hop whether it was and it's. always going to be harder for the first. always harder it's going to it's always. going to be harder for the first I know. that and uh even nowadays with funk in. Brazil it was not playing the radios it. was not the events couldn't play Funk it. was very hard it could only listen to it. in the favellas inside of the. communities so it was a big big fight.

nowadays people forget it but at that. time me and my brother that we worked. hard for it to happen we remember very. well cuz we know the struggle but I I. actually used to care a lot if people. remembered or not nowadays I just don't. care I just want to have a good time I. just want to be happy uh because before. I was doing it but I wanted the. credibility of people saying that I was. the one who did it and that there was.

the time my my therapist which is my. Shaman she. said so why are you doing I was like oh. because you know I want to change. people's lives and she was like oh so. why do you care if people acknowledged. if it was you or not if they changed the. life that's it that's what you want it. and then I was thinking I was like what. if ego trip that I was right cuz I was. saying it was for the people but I was. very worried with the PE if the people. were saying it was me so in at the end.

of the day if it's for the people we. should not care if people are. acknowledging or not if you if it was. you or not absolutely so right now I'm. in this place of like and and and I. think that's what it took it would take. for me to be in this in this spiritual. place of like to do this album or to do. whatever I want to do to be in a place. of like not care about. the response just do what I what makes. me happy at the moment you know and I'm.

like very much like that now and I. understand that could be less successful. maybe not number one maybe not number 50. but I couldn't care less cuzz inside I. feel way better than when I was number. one so much happier I'm so happy Foria I. feel that for you that's that's. brilliant no what a what a beautiful. place to be in uh Anita you have been a. joy. to talk to honestly I've enjoyed so much. sharing energy with you exchanging. energy with you I feel I feel uplifted.

inspired I feel connected and I think. everyone who's listening and watching. would have felt that from your presence. and your words and you know the wisdom. that you shared as well I think you've. you've mentioned in your own words so. times so many times I think you've been. underestimated uh people only perceive. someone for the character they play or. from one dimension and my genuine hope. and intention is that this interview. will just just showcase the multifaceted. multi-dimensional individual that you. are and I love the way you're able to be.

playful and profound all at the same. time yeah I think I think people that's. what I want from people now in my life. and my career I want people to. understand that we need to find a. balance we are in the material world so. we cannot be just spiritual we need to. eat we need to you know we need to work. so we can have a house to live in so we. just need to find the balance so I do. make music to shake your ass to have fun. to jump let's have sex da da but it's.

also important to come back and have the. other side too so we can never be happy. if we only um going to one side the. other side is always going to feel like. H but it didn't look at me we need to. have the balance the perfect balance. that's why we are in a material world to. understand the the balance it between. these two things to be able to to walk. around here and not let these things. make you feel like heavy and life is.

only material or just not only walk. around here and forget the other side. exists you know we're here in the middle. and that's the most important thing to. be in the middle absolutely absolutely. well said uh we end every on purpose. interview with the final five so these. questions have to be answered in one. word to one sentence maximum okay and so. these are your final five Anita question. number one what is the best advice. you've ever heard or received I think.

it's that I'm in control I. command what people do they come in how. you react and receive you commend well. said uh what is the worst advice you've. ever heard or. received. oh never give up oh I hate this never. give up it's okay to give up oh my God. it's so okay to give up o if you're.

struggling give up take a nap rest do. something then you come back when you're. fine well said all right question number. three what's the first thing you do in. the morning and the last thing you do. every night oh it's the same I have this. book five minutes a day I wake up I. write what I three things I want for the. day I think three things I'm grateful. for and um affirmations at night same.

page how three things I was amazing in. the day and uh what I learned today I. love that question number four what's. something you've learned recently I. learned this very important. thing when a person don't ask you for. help don't. help if the person ask you help. don't help someone that didn't ask for. the help if she didn't ask she doesn't.

want or. he yeah it's unsolicited sometimes we. we're trying to fix because we are. buying someone's struggle and this. person can feel offended this fr the. energy in the family constellation we we. learn that when you help a person that. is not asking for your help it's like. you're buying this Karma you know yeah. I'm going to go off pece slightly. because you inspired a question of me. how how has spirituality changed your.

view of dating and relationships. romantic relationships I feel like it's. like a dance nowadays before I used to. feel like relationships was what I was. reading outside seeing outside from. others and nowadays spirituality taught. me that the relationship that you have. with. yourself is going to be the mirror for. the relationship that you have with the.

other so nowadays I work at myself a lot. so I can have a relationship with. somebody and when I find somebody that. is not having a good relationship with. himself it doesn't I I already know that. it's not going to work and I don't. insist I let the person know I am here. I'm working on my your and you're here. for us to have a good healthy soft easy. nice thing and grow together.

inside if no then it's not you know but. I used to think of relationship in a. very different way very different way. that the person needed to add me on all. the things that people outside ask oh. what does he. do does he do this da how is the family. what if you have kids. nowadays I just see inside do you treat. yourself very well if yes then let's go.

cuz I treat myself very well too I love. that uh Fifth and final question we ask. this to every guest who's ever been on. the show if you could create one law. that everyone in the world had to follow. what would it. be I would create a limit of money that. each person can have wow that's it. it that's what you can have now the more. you have you're going to pass to the.

nature you don't need to pass I. understand the money comes for those who. work out work hard put an effort but. after some here you don't need more no. one needs that much you need to share if. you want to build a school cool if you. wan to protect the Amazon cool if you. want whatever no one needs I'm talking.

about necessity no one needs. billions billions no no nobody needs the. necessity it's not it's not there Anita. a phenomenal answer fantastic interview. thank you so much it has been such a joy. it's been wonderful being with you I. hope that everyone who's been listening. and watching let me and Anita know what. resonated with you I know you guys cut. up the best clips for Tik Tok and. Instagram and make sure you tag both of. us so that we can see what stayed with.

you what connected with you what meant. something to you I'm sure that there was. so many insights and so many points of. wisdom that Anita Shar today that have. left a mark on you and I can't wait to. see what has stayed with you Anita thank. you so much again for this opportunity. it was such a joy and so grateful and uh. yeah thank you for sharing this time. with me thank you you thank you if this. is the year that you're trying to get. creative you're trying to build more I. need you to listen to this episode with. Rick Rubin on how to break into your.

most creative self how to use. unconventional methods that lead to. success and the secret to genuinely. loving what you do if you're trying to. find your passion and your lane Rick. rubin's episode is the one for you just. because I like it that doesn't give it. any value like as an artist if you like. it that's all of the value that's the. success comes when you say I like this. enough for other people to see it.