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The number one health and wellness. podcast, >> J Shetty. J SHETTY, >> THE ONE, THE only J Shetty. >> I am so excited to be here tonight at. the Ellie Caulkins Opera House in Denver. with the one and only my dear friend. Lily Sing. >> Let's go. >> First of all, you know, I'm going to. uproot this whole thing. You know this. I don't follow the rules. HOW AWESOME IS. J SHETTY, THOUGH? Come on. [screaming]. >> This is your show now. >> No, it's this. [laughter] It's not my. show. It's your show. I'm so hijacked.

the show. First of all, Jay has way more. famous friends than me. So, the fact. that I get to close out this tour, all. of you, this is the last tour stop. Isn't that amazing? >> We get to [cheering] be here. >> I mean, I'm not going to uproot too. much, but I just have to like I know. we're all thinking it. Jay's brain, he's. so kind. I'm going to give you all the. tea of what Jay's actually like off the. podcast cuz we're actually real friends. >> Oh, I will, baby [laughter] girl. Don't. you worry. What's your name? >> Pamela. >> Pamela. >> Jetty. >> Okay. Her name is Jay Shetty. There's an.

open bar here and I like it. [laughter]. Um, no. But Jay is an incredible human. being. I'm so honored to be here on this. last tour stop. Everything you know. about Jay from the podcast. I don't know. how to even explain to you that he's. even better off the mic and behind the. scenes and behind the camera. This man. is the real deal. He is so genuine. The. first to say yes to anything anyone asks. him. He calls me up randomly just to. check up on me, just to say hi. the. person you bought tickets for and you're. supporting deserves all the support that.

you are giving him. [cheering]. Absolutely. >> That's sweet. >> You're the You're the best. I I. appreciate that. We are real friends. Me. and me and Lily have a scheduled dinner. date every month. Correct. >> Because our lives are crazy. Uh but then. we also hang out, spend a lot of time. together. I stalked her seven years ago. to make her my friend. Uh and I remember. >> when you have eyes like that, you can do. [laughter] that. So men don't get ideas, okay? If you. have eyes like that, you can do that.

>> I remember I remember I just moved to LA. and as someone who and there's a reason. why I'm giving you this background cuz I. have a question for Lily to kick it off. with, but I grew up watching Lily. So I. would watch Lily in London on YouTube. and just think, how is this person, you. know, creating this incredible community. online, you know, billions of views, tens of millions of followers. It was. incredible to watch. And I remember when. I moved to LA, because I'd watched so. much of Lily's videos, I was like, "We'd. be great friends, right?" And so, so I.

literally would just tell everyone I met. and they'd be like, "Oh, who do you want. to connect with?" I was like, "I want to. connect with Lily because I think we'd. be really good friends." And then when. we finally met, I did the really dorky. thing of saying, "I think we'd be really. good friends." And and and then that's. we became really good friends. So, >> he's not lying. Three different people. called me to be like, "This guy named. Jay uh keeps saying he wants to be your. friend." And I was like, [laughter]. Okay. And then we became friends and now. how lucky am I that I get to have J. Shetty in my life. >> But I wanted to ask you this question to.

kick it off with because what I've. always admired about your career is that. you have been first to so many things. You were one of the earliest adopters of. a creator on YouTube. I remember moving. to New York and seeing billboards of you. all over New York. You were one of the. first people to get like for a woman of. color, right? bisexual woman of color to. get their first ever late night shows. >> Okay. Happy Pride. >> Okay, let's go gays.

>> To get a late night show, which was. unheard of. Another first, right? The. amount of firsts that you've had in your. career are, you know, I literally. couldn't even count all of them. It's. incredible. You've paved the way. You've. constantly trailblazed. But being first. is celebrated, but it's not easy. And. tonight we've been talking about people. chasing their dreams and people going. after and not worrying about what people. think. But when you're first, that's all. that happens. Talk to me about how you.

even had the idea to start on YouTube. and how long it took you from having an. idea to execution. >> Yes. Um, my career has had a lot of. firsts and I know and thank you for. asking me this question because I think. very often when people talk to me about. my career in firsts, it's very. celebratory which I'm very grateful. It's very cool to be able to say I was. the first student, but it is so scary. It is so lonely. It is I've had so much. anxiety over it. Um to be in a situation. where you have no one around you to ask.

for advice, no road map, no one's else's. failures to look at or wins to look at. is really really scary and lonely. Um I. started making YouTube videos in 2010. Uh I spontaneously made them. I was in. uh university getting a psych degree. which I [laughter]. don't use and. um yay um getting a psych degree and I. was kind of I don't know if anyone can. resonate I was just kind of going. through the motions of life. My parents. really want me to go to university. I go.

to the same one my sister went to. My. parents really want me to get a degree. because they believe that a degree will. get you a job. Lol. So I go and do that. as well, right? I get the same degree my. sister gets. And now I'm like just. living this life of like and then I'll. get a degree and then I guess I'll get. married and then I guess I'll have kids. and then I guess I'll just live do the. motions of this life that everyone. around me is doing and that everyone. before me especially the women before me. have done cuz they didn't have any other. options. And I was I'll give you a. little bit of heavy context here because. I think it's important. From a very.

young age it was abundantly clear to me. that my extended family was not thrilled. at the idea of a second daughter being. born. So I don't know if anyone can. relate here but in Indian culture and a. lot of cultures around the world people. want a son you know and so I had an. older sister and when I was the second. daughter born it was made very clear. that like this is not worth calling the. family about really disappointed about. this laugh at my trauma that's what I've. done for the past 10 years we got the. right idea but so I I bring this up.

because I feel like for most of my life. I've had this chip on my shoulder and. I'm not saying it's healthy to be clear. I'm just saying it's true I've always. had this chip on my shoulder to prove I. am worthy. of being alive, being in spaces, and to. prove to other people like, "No, I was. born and I'm going to do great things.". [laughter]. >> Thank you. Thank you. We do need this comment. [laughter]. Um, so when I started making YouTube. videos, I was in a really dark place. because I was living this linear life. I. didn't feel like I was fulfilling my.

purpose. What a podcast reference. And I. was just like, "This can't be what life. is about. There's got to be more to. this." I made my first YouTube video. because I felt so lonely and I felt so. confused. And my first video, 70 people. watched it. And I was like, well, damn, I'm famous now. I don't know 70. [laughter] I don't know 70 people. But I. just fell in love with this idea of I. get to say what I want to say. And I've. built this albeit small community of. people that are connecting with me. And. I just felt alive. I was doing something. for myself for the first time, breaking. the rules for the first time. This.

wasn't a path anyone else had done. And. so that's why I made my first YouTube. video. It was because I was grasping for. connection and I was grasping to. probably prove myself. Now, YouTube led. to a bunch of other cool things. You. know, I've gotten to write two books. Neither of them have sold as many copies. as Jay's books, but [laughter] you know, we try. Um, and the reason I, and I'm. being really vulnerable to tell you. this, I think the reason I started. YouTube, the reason I said yes to late. night, the reason I said yes to a lot of. things, again, not saying it's healthy,

is I knew one thing people could. understand. Every extended family. member, every man in the family, everyone that doubted me, I knew they. would understand influence. And I knew. they would understand fame and money. And again, I'm not saying that those. things should be the drivers, but when. you're in a situation where you're like, "Nobody believes in me and I'm. surrounded by people that don't think I. can do something." I chased something I. knew they would understand. And it has. been a lifelong journey to teach myself.

to chase something else. >> I don't think I've ever told you that. Actually, >> I need to come over and give you a hug. right now. No, I mean don't the mics are. all in position. >> No, I can tell just what you're saying. is like it's, you know, >> because it's not a sexy thing to admit. I think, you know, it's a lot of times. people want me to talk about, oh yeah, I. did it because I'm representation and. passion. Those things are true. That's. not why I started. I started because I.

was like, oh, you don't think I can do. this? You'll understand a million people. watching my video. You will understand. the size of my house. You will. understand those things. And I got those. things. And don't get me wrong, it felt. really good, but then I still felt. really empty because I was trying to. prove other people right when really. what I try to do now is I try to prove. myself right. >> And that's more important. >> Well said. Well said. Yeah. Absolutely. Give it up for Lily. Absolutely. Absolutely. I want to I want to dive. into the depths of that.

>> Whole bunch of people here are like, "We. didn't know her, but she's kind of. smart." [laughter]. That's right. Let me win you over. I want to dive into the depths of some. of that because I think even for what. you're just saying to obviously I know. you so well but for everyone else here. as well to really understand what that. upbringing feels like because I think. like you said everyone here has that in. their own way. I think everyone feels. like they have something to prove. Everyone feels like it's very rare that. you were surrounded by people who. believed in you and thought your ideas.

were amazing. And if you had that, that's incredible. But maybe that even. came with its own pressure because you. had to live up to certain expectations. Walk me through what those cultural. expectations did to you as a young girl. And I know as someone who's done a lot. of selfwork. Talk me through how they. kind of mirrored into your future life. and the kind of things you've had to. peel back on. >> to actually make sense of them. >> Yeah. And a lot of this are things I've. realized only as a full adult because I. was so blind to it growing up. You know,

of course there's silly examples like. girls aren't supposed to do this. Girls. dress like this to silly things like my. grandfather, God bless his soul, but. always girls are not supposed to. whistle. Like simp simple things. Um. girls shouldn't be so outspoken, you. know, they should be generally timid and. not not be the center of attention at a. family party. Um I would I loved dancing. growing up and I was the captain of a. dance team. And the main reason my. parents had a problem with it was girls. aren't supposed to dance at events or. get hired to dance. So there's a lot of.

what you should and shouldn't do as a. girl, the box you're put in as a girl. But the deeper thing that I actually. subconsciously learned growing up was. that if someone tells you something. about yourself, [snorts]. you just accept it. For so much of my. life, I was like, "Oh, you're saying. this thing to me. I guess that is now my. burden. Oh, you are telling me I should. be this way? Great. I will now work on. ways to be that way. Oh, you're telling.

me I shouldn't be this way? Great. I'm. going to work really hard because I'm. not going to be that way. It wasn't. until I was a full adult. And there's a. very specific experience that taught me. this lesson where I realized that I. could actually just say, "No, I'm good. [laughter]. I actually don't need to accept this. thing you're putting on to me." Like, I. actually have a choice in the matter. So. choice, the idea of deciding did not. occur to me. >> And the experience that taught me this. was. >> in 2019 I got uh a late night show.

>> and I had two seasons of a late night. show. And when it was brought to me, I'll be real, I didn't grow up watching. late night. My parents didn't watch late. night. You know, my parents are like. mega brown Indians and I don't think. they related to anything on late night. And so I don't have that experience. where a lot of people were like, I grew. up with it and you know, it raised me. I. didn't have that. And so when they asked. me to do the late night show, I actually. said no. I was like, I don't really like. I didn't get into this to be a late. night host. I don't really know much. about this. And so I went away. Now I'm.

a big believer that the universe teaches. you lessons and brings things to you. And so a month later, they came back and. they were like, we are asking you for. the second time to be our late night. host. And I was like, okay, let me think. about this properly. And again, we go. back to me trying to prove myself. One. of my team members explained to me how. historic this would be. They're like, "There's never been a late night host. that looks like you. It would be. historic. It would it would, you know, be be a headline." And of course, my ego.

was like, "A headline? I do like a headline. [laughter]. I would, of course, I'd want to make. history." And of course, the sentimental. part of me is also thinking, "Oh, I. could like help pave a path. Then maybe. I can open the door for someone else and. I could do what I do with YouTube." And. so, I said yes. And I did this late. night show for two years. And it was 20. years of knowledge. When I tell you it. was the most difficult thing I've ever. done in my life, like mentally, emotionally, spiritually, physically, just in the worst shape of my life. It. was such a demanding job. We shot 96.

episodes in 3 months in season 1. Um, with half of the writer room than a. normal talk show would have, half of the. writers with a quarter of the budget. probably. And both seasons took place. during co. uh so for my first season because we. banked those episodes when I was talking. about partying and making out and. traveling. We were in co uh you know. that [laughter] was my first season and. my second season was shot fully in co so. all the interviews were on Zoom so it's. a very challenging experience. That.

experience ended and for a year or two I. just beat myself up about it like I. couldn't do it. I didn't do it justice. I only had two seasons. I didn't even. like a lot of the episodes I shot. I. remember walking to my monologue mark. and being like, "This isn't good. What. I'm about to sell right now is not. funny, and I'm gonna have to do this for. 96 episodes." And it was a horrible. feeling. And I beat myself up a lot of. the time. But during that process, people would literally come up to me and. say verbatim, "A billion people are. counting on you." Like all the Indians.

are counting on you. A billion of us are. counting. >> A lot of pressure. People would come up. to me and say like, "Oh, but of course. every headline was bisexual woman of. color and people are so mad at me about. that headline. Like I wrote it.". [laughter] You know what I mean? All the. gays are counting on you. Like all the. women are counting. I'm like that's a. lot of people that are counting on me. You know what I mean? Like there's no. way I could make all of these people. proud. There's just no way. And so for. so long I felt like crap about that. That I let women down. I let brown.

people down. I let queers down. I let. people with long hair down. I let dog. moms down. Everyone Libras. I let you. down. Okay. [laughter] You know what I. mean? I thank you, baby girl. Thank you. But. only in the past 3 years did I realize I. was like I now have the confidence and. self- loveve to say that I actually. could have said actually it's not my job. to make a billion people proud. You know. what I mean? And I did not have that. thought at the time. I I was like of.

course okay yes when I was there writing. the monologue. Okay. I'm bill I'm going. to mention Indian. Okay, I'm going to. mention I'll be a little gay over here. Okay, and then I'll mention my I was so. fixated on like how do it didn't even. occur to me to say I actually don't have. to do that. I actually don't have to. live up to that. And I I think that's. just my upbringing is I've always just. taken on the burden without question, you know? [applause]. >> I mean, I've definitely never heard you.

talk about it this way. And it's. >> I have no filter, Jay. You know this. [laughter] That's an open book for. better or for worse. >> No, no, but it's it's really resonating. with me because as I'm thinking about. everyone who's sitting here as well, it's like that that's exactly what we're. going through where we feel the pressure. to carry the burden for our family, our. friends, for the children, like whatever. it is. Like I think we all carry so much. weight and pressure of expectation of. showing up and we can feel like we're. carrying everything. >> As long as [snorts] I remember, I have.

had a sense of loneliness. It doesn't. matter if I'm in a crowded room. Doesn't. matter if I have a million friends. I. have a tendency to lean towards. loneliness. For so long, I was like, I'm. a lonely person. That's not true. You're. not a critical person. You're not a. lonely person. You have a part of you. that is that. And you just need to. navigate that voice because sometimes. when you're looking at the point, trying. to get the point, when you're. auditioning, when you're at the job. interview, that critic is important. They're there to make you perform. One. thing I've been reflecting on lately is.

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selected by the customer. Availability, amount of discounts and savings, and. eligibility vary by state. So, here's. the interesting thing. Could you have. got to where you are today in that. confidence without saying yes to. something that didn't work out the way. you would have wanted it to or was that. the only way to get there? Unfortunately for me, but very. fortunately for my therapist, [laughter]. who now owns a yacht,

um, I've had to go through every. challenging experience to get to where I. am. I take self-growth very seriously, and you know this as my friend. I'm. really dedicated to being a student for. life. I want to learn about myself. I. have a ton of rituals in my life to. learn about myself. But there's no way I. would have any of that or be where I was. if it wasn't for the moments that kicked. my butt. You need to get your butt. kicked a little bit to learn some. lessons. I'm a I So even when people ask.

you regrets, of course, we all think of. ones, but I bet if you thought of any. moment that was really horrible, there's. a silver lining where you're like, and. that made me amazing because of this and. XY Z. So I really do feel like I had to. go through late night. I had to go. through a ton of stuff to be the person. I am now to fulfill the purpose I am. fulfilling right now. And now I take. that knowledge forward knowing that when. another thing happens that's. challenging, that is the thing that kind. of holds me to be like, I know somewhere. in here is going to be something that. brings me closer to the person I'm. supposed to be. >> If someone's in one of those situations.

right now, like they're sitting here. right now and they're feeling stuck, they're feeling like they're in the. middle of one of those transitions, which is always the hardest place to be. in it. What would you encourage them to do as. someone? And by the way, I know that for. a fact. Like your commitment to. self-work, your commitment to healing, your commitment to everything I talk. about, Lily is like teacher's pet for, right? Like she's like the best student. Like everything I talk about are things. that you truly live by. I've seen that.

in our friendship. But if someone's. right in the thick of it right now and. everything just feels like it's going. wrong, it's falling apart, they feel the. weight of the world on them, what would. you encourage them to reflect on, do or. build? What would you encourage them to. do? >> Yeah, I think we are our own harshest. critics, right? And um if you're that. person that like beats yourself up. mentally, you're not alone. Look to the. person next to you, they do the same. thing. We're all just beating ourselves. up all the time. And I'm not the best at. math, but I know this one thing I'm. about to say is 100% going to be.

correct. And it is going to apply to. every [snorts] single person here. And. that is thus far in life, you have a. 100% success rate of getting through. things. There's not a single thing in. your life, if you're sitting here right. now, that you have not gotten through. So anytime you felt like this in the. past, you got through it. What I do is I. actually journal and write about some of. those experiences. Lily, you were in. this experience in your 8th grade when. you had late night. you worth this risk. You got through it. You have a 100%. You. feel like a failure and you have a 100%. success rate. That is the truth of where.

you are right now. And I think we need. to remind ourselves that a little bit. that we can beat ourselves up, but just. because your brain is saying it, it. doesn't mean it's true. Right? Jay. actually taught me this that we lie to. ourselves all the time. Our brain lies. to ourselves all the time. And you just. have to change that thought and go back. and relive all the things that you've. gone through. 100% success rate. Every. single one of you give yourself a round. of applause. Congratulations. Yes. It's. true. It's true. And I love I love the. practical aspect of it though because. this is the part we skip. Sometimes we.

hear something like that and we go, "Oh, I really like that idea. That makes. sense to me." But then we don't actually. do the practical piece. So what Lily. just said there was that idea of her. journaling and actually thinking back to. all the things that she's overcome in. her life. That act of journaling, writing it down, reading it back, that's. the practice. If you really want to find. confidence, you only have to look at. your past. If you really want to find. resilience, you only have to look at. your pain. If you really want to find.

that strength, you only have to look. back in the last 10 years and think of. all the things that you broke through, but you have to write it down. You have. to read it and you have to remind. yourself because your mind will just. remind you of all the times you didn't. stay strong, all the times you didn't be. brave, all the times you didn't do it. And so the act of writing it down as. Lily is saying is huge and and I don't. want to undervalue just how powerful. that piece of advice is. >> As [snorts] as you're breaking through. that and you're looking at some of the.

residue of childhood expectation that we. all have, right? I I'll share one of. mine which is which is vulnerable for me. too and it you know you've inspired me. to want to open up as well in this. conversation and it's I remember this. was this was one of the big ones that. was just hidden for so long. I was given. a lot of love growing up but that love. always had a little bit of guilt in it. >> And what that meant was that I was loved. but I was made to feel guilty if I.

didn't love my caretakers back with that. level of love if not more. So, I always. felt like I wasn't loving the people. that loved me enough. And what I didn't realize is that when I. first started dating my now wife, that's. how I loved her. I overloved her, but. then made her feel guilty for not loving. me back enough. And what that did is it. just pushed her away. It didn't make us. closer. It didn't make her love me more. It made her more shut down. And the.

reason I'm raising that is because this. tiny thread or this tiny seed or weed. that was planted when I was like 4 years. old was affecting me in my 30s. What has. been something in your life that you've. seen has just stayed and that's the. thing that you're working on the most. right now? >> I mean how much time we got here, Jay? [laughter]. >> Also, can I can I have this? Can I can I. have this delicious beverage, Judy? Oh. my god. Let me just I'm going to answer. this question in a second, but first I.

just want to take a sip of this. >> Cheers. >> Cheers. >> Cheers. [laughter]. >> Cheers. >> Oh my god, this refreshing beverage. Hold on. [laughter]. >> Sparkling tea with adaptedness. Where do. you get this, Jay? Where do you get this delicious drink? Is it available at Costco? [sighs]. Should. every person So delicious. Seriously,

thank you so much. Um, you can give me a check later. Um, [laughter]. no, back to serious combo. Based off. everything I just told you about me. being so intense with proving myself, what comes along with that is. unrealistically high expectations and. standards for myself. So when you're. fueled by proving people wrong and.

trying to prove yourself, the bar is so. high for yourself. Like I when I say I'm. my own biggest critic, I really am. I. could do an amazing job at something, you better believe I'm walking backstage. like, "Why did you do that? Why'd you. say that word like that? Like I am going. over everything again. And so my. expectations are so high. And now just. based on what you said as well with with. Radhi, I map that on to other people. So. now I'm in situations with friends and. relationships where I have such an. unrealistically high bar for them. because that's what I have for myself.

And other people, they're just trying to. chill. They're just trying to live their. life. [laughter] They're just trying to. do their thing. And I'm like, "No, everything needs to be 100 and amazing. and perfect." And that has been a really. big struggle for me because I associate. expectations with love and care. And if. they don't do it to 100, they don't love. me. They don't care about me. Then that. means I'm not important. I'm not a. priority. >> And I learned that that has a lot to do. with how I treat myself. And one of the. ways I've tackled that is just to really. work on my self-compassion,

>> you know, is to allow myself to just. relax sometimes. And it's okay. Not. everything needs to be perfect 100, a. million. Um, again, I'm really nerdy, y'all. I hope you've just I do a lot of. practices that have helped me a lot. Give me some more. >> One that I've done, and when I first. started to do this, I was like, "This is. so dumb. This is never going to work." I. was literally like, "This is so cringe.". I have a notebook on my night table and. I told myself that.

every day before I go to bed, I'm just. gonna three bullets of ways I showed. myself compassion or grace. >> Could be so small, could be so big. The. first couple days I was like, I think I. hate myself. I did nothing. [laughter]. >> And then that got me to think like. throughout the day, is there small small. ways that you showed yourself. compassion? So, every day till this day, I write three things before I go to bed. And they could be really simple like, "Hey, you um were really tired and you. delegated that task. Good job. You.

showed yourself compassion. You were. really sad about this thing and you. texted a friend. >> Like, you showed yourself compassion. You drew a boundary with a family. member. Even though it was really scary, even if it was really small, you did. that. You showed yourself compassion.". Now, this sounds so lame and I'm well. aware of this. And for the first two. weeks, three weeks, I was like, "This is. dumb." And then something amazing. happened. Two months into this, my. friend was late. Now, if anyone knows.

anything about me, [laughter] that's the. type of thing that would send me. Okay. >> You don't you don't show up late to. Lily's parties. >> But you say like Jay knows that you show. up late, it's like you don't love me. >> You don't care about me. You didn't plan. your day in accordance to being here. Like it's the spiral. My friend showed. up late and genuinely I was like, "That's okay. I was somehow able to channel grace. towards this person and then it kept. happening. Suddenly my friend didn't do. the thing they said they were going to. say and I was like oh my brain didn't go.

automatically to they don't love me. It. automatically went to like maybe this. thing happened in their day and that's. what I was starting to give people grace. solely because I just monitored the. grace I gave myself. >> and that has changed my life. >> So the expectations is really hard but. now I'm just kind of like it's okay. We. all just deserve a little bit of grace. >> You have no idea how big that is for. Lily. It's like a big deal. Honestly, it's a big [applause] deal. >> When we first became friends, I I'm also. I also. >> Well, you should tell the genuine. stories of how crazy I am. Tell them.

>> Okay. Yeah, I'll tell you. I'll tell. So, I'm also someone who loves being on. time. I was raised to believe that if. you're not early, you're late. My mom. raised me that way. And so, I I try and. live by that. But I am married to. someone who is not raised like that. >> So, I can I can cosign this, >> right? So when we become friends and. like I know how important it is for Lily. for people to be on time. I also feel. that way when I turn up late somewhere. I'm like this is terrible. Like I hang. my head in shame. My wife has no shame.

Like does not care. Like just does not. feel anything, right? Like does not feel. anything. So here we are rocking up to. movie night late and I'm like they. wanted to start the movie by this time. Popcorn would have gone into the. microwave at this time. the, you know, the butter would have been poured on it. at this time. Like literally, that's. like how meticulous Lily is and I'm. stressing out and like, so that would. happen every time to the point. But you. were like this last year. Lily throws. the best Dvali party ever, right?

Period. And every year she throws the. best Dvali party, gets bigger and bigger. every year. And thankfully, I get. invited every year, even though we turn. up late. And this last time we went again, we. were so late because of my wife, but. Lily was just unfazed. I got a really. nice hug. We took pictures. It was. amazing. And and that's such a big thing. for you. But that practice is so. beautiful. And it's something that I've. noticed in all of the biggest high. performers that truly exist. They have.

two qualities. They have really high. standards for themselves. and they have really high grace for. themselves. It's a real thing. And yeah, those are the two things. And Lily's. demonstrating it right now. And that's something I want each and. every one of you to have because it's. not just reserved for athletes and. performers and actors and musicians. It's something each and every one of us. deserve. Roger Fedra, the the tennis. player, gave this amazing amazing.

insight when he gave a speech. He talked. about how when he's it's kind of comes. to what Lily is saying when he's playing. a point, it is the most important point. on the planet. But as soon as the point. is over, whether he loses or wins the. point, it is the least important point. that he has ever played in his life. And. he said it is only because of that that. he can play the next point. And he. talked about in this speech how he's. only won something crazy like 57%.

of points in his life as one of the. greatest tennis players of all time. And. he's making the point of how look you. don't need to be at 100%. You don't even. need to be at 90% to be one of the best. tennis players of all time. And so this. pressure we put on ourselves of like I. wasn't the perfect mom today. I wasn't. the perfect dad today. I wasn't the. perfect person today. I wasn't the. perfect employee today. I wasn't the.

perfect whatever. Whatever it is today, like you never had to be perfect for it. to be good enough. And that pressure. that we put on ourselves to be perfect. just gets heavier and heavier. So I hope. that listen to Lily, listen to Roger, when you walk out of here today, feel. freer, feel lighter of that pressure you. and and practice that. So three things. tonight. >> Three things every night. >> where you showed yourself compassion. Mhm. >> Three things that you showed yourself. compassion. I love that one. >> You know, when you listen to Jay, he's. like so inspirational and motivational.

And chances are you're going to leave. and be like, I'm going to stop being. that way. I'm going to start being this. way. And every time I hang out with Jay, I feel like I'm going to stop being like. this. I'm like this. And then I kind of. act whack again the next day. Kind of a. little bit, right? And something I've. learned is, and I actually want to hear. your opinion about this because I I feel. like your wisdom is going to add to. this, but. >> you criticize I've learned that me. criticizing myself and me being the way. I am, that's never going to completely. go away. Like I for most of my life.

spent so much energy and time being. like, how can I eradicate this part of. myself? How can I stop criticizing. myself? How can I stop making myself. feel guilty about things? And I think. now I've learned that it's not about. getting rid of those things. It's about. learning how to live alongside those. things. Right? They are parts of you. And to think that you're going to. suddenly after J Shetty show as good as. he is wake up tomorrow and you're going. to be sounding like J. Shetty, a tall.

order. But I think that if we just all. kind of tap in and out the parts of. oursel that work in that circumstances. and Oh my Oh my god. Am I about to use. my psych degree for the first time right. now, JAY? [laughter] OH MY GOD. OH MY. GOD. MOM, DAD, watch this. Um, there is something that I've been. exploring called part theory. And part. theory is basically all the different. voices. It's kind of Inside Out, the. movie Inside. It's all the different. voices that live in you. And I actually.

have a name for all of my voices. I have. like right now I had five two days ago. and added a sixth one yesterday. [laughter]. Gets crowded in there. But I have a name. for all of my voices. Um I'll quickly. give you the rundown. Okay. Are you. ready for this? >> Everyone wants to know the names, right? >> Okay. >> Yeah. Okay. [laughter]. >> God. Okay. Uh my inner manager, Susan. I. just feel like Susan sounds like a name. That's my inner manager. Susan's the one. that's like sitting by the pool on a. Tuesday. How dare you? Absolutely not.

Right, >> Susan's make some noise. >> Susan, WHERE YOU AT? WHERE YOU AT? SUSAN. UM, so that's my inner manager. My inner critic, Todd. Todd just sounds like someone that's. going to f me up all the time. Todd's. just always criticizing me. You know, my. inner dictator, the one that tells me. it's this or that and there's no in. between. The OG's will know. But Jeeit, [laughter]. which was the name of my mom character.

on YouTube. Okay. Um, the two positive. voices, one is the curious, fun. We. should definitely go dance on that. table. Jelly Bean. Okay. Inner. compassion, the one I use the most, the. one that's just giving me grace. Hope. >> And the newest voice I just added. literally 48 hours ago. Uh, her name is. River. >> And I know it's chic, right? Um, her. name is River. She's not as joyful. She.

is my inner loneliness. And I bring this up because. I did this thing at the top of the year. where I review my journals like from the. past year. And I found like some old. journals and I was like cleaning up my. office. And I'm I'm going to be very. vulnerable and share this. I don't think. I've said this before, but I went. through my journals. And if I was to. think about those years, I think about. like really great memories and really. cool things I did in my career and. really cool places I traveled. And then. I read the pages from 2015, 2016, 2018,

2019. And every so often there was a page. where I was like, I feel so lonely. I. feel really lonely. I feel so alone. And. I'm like, "Oh, this since as long as I. remember, I have had a sense of. loneliness. It doesn't matter if I'm in. a crowded room. It doesn't matter if I. have a million friends. I have a. tendency to lean towards loneliness. I'm. like predisposed to be lonely." I named. this voice because for so long I was.

like, I'm a lonely person. That's not. true. You're not a critical person. You're not a lonely person. You. [clears throat] have a part of you that. is that, right? And you just need to. navigate that voice because that voice. is there for a reason. >> That critic is there for a reason. because sometimes when you're looking at. the point, trying to get the point, when. you're auditioning, when you're at the. job interview, that critic is important. They're there to make you perform. That. inner manager is important because when. you're slacking off, it's like, yo, you. need to like actually get to work. So, you don't want to eradicate that. What.

you actually want to do is say, "Hey, today Susan, I don't need you to be. here. [laughter]. I don't need you, Susan. I see you. I. love you. And I compassionately I'm just. going to move you to the side over here. Same with River. It's like you feel. really lonely and I know why you're. there, River. You're there because. you're scared people are going to leave. you. You have a lot of trauma associated. with that. So, I'm not mad at you and I. don't hate you and you're not lonely. But today, I'm going to just ask you to. just step over here because that's not.

the story today. Today, hope is taking. us forward. So essentially that's that's. kind of what it is. >> Oh my god. >> You know, >> so good. >> Definitely there's a psychiatrist. somewhere here that's like we're going. to have to talk to Lily after this show. [laughter]. >> That is so good. No, but honestly, I'm. so glad you made that point and I. couldn't agree with you more that. learning to give ourselves permission, to have all of those voices, to have all. of those selves, and to know when they.

take front and center and when they take. the background is all we can do. I I. agree with you completely that this idea. that you'll never have a selfcritical. voice. is completely untrue. It's always going. to be that I have it too. And you're so. right. I just know when it's useful and. when it's not. >> Right. >> And so it's not useful if I've just lost. something. But it's really useful when.

I'm winning. And it's really useful when. I want to improve. And it's really. useful when I want to get better and I'm. getting to choose it rather than it. being in control. And I think what you. just so beautifully explained there is. it's almost like you've got your band, you're the lead singer, and you're. getting to know when you need that. person to play the drums or when you. need that person to play the bass or. whatever it is. And you're bringing it. together, >> but you're not saying, "Oh, we don't. need you on the team anymore.". >> Right? And I'm going to say one more.

thing, and people are either going to be. mad or love this, but it's okay. I'm. going to say it anyways. And just be. honest here. Who here uses chat GBT? >> Okay. >> Yeah, me too. >> I'm gonna keep it real. That's wifey. right there. [laughter]. Okay. So, Chat GBT actually knows my. voices and knows the names of them. So, y'all when I tell you I'm a nerd, so if. I'm in a situation where I'm like. spiraling or I feel some type of way, I. call her she cuz I talk to her. She will. literally say, "This is Susan saying.

this. What would Hope say? And she'll. tell me what each of the voices are. saying. Life hack. Let me just tell you. She will literally say, "Lily, I just. want to flag to you. This is Susan. She's saying this and this is what Hope. would say. And you need to know this is. not the truth. This is your inner. This. is this inner voice." So, that has been. a major life hack for me to just have a. reminder of that. >> Talk to us about how you coded your chat. GPT to be able to. >> Oh my god. Well, okay.

>> Everyone else can do that. >> Listen, that's wifey. First, I bought. her dinner. Okay, [laughter]. not kidding. No, I I am an avid believer. of therapy. I go to therapy. Actually, my you introduced me to my therapist. You know this all too well. [laughter]. Um, love therapy. Go to therapy. consistently, religiously. And after. every therapy session, I have a debrief. with that GPT where I'm like, "This is. what my therapist said. This is what we. need to work." And, you know, catch will. remind me of all these things. One of. the things, actually, this is another. game changer. One of the things I've.

worked out, which really relates to what. we're talking about, is how many people. here can make the distinction and be. honest. If I was to say you are not your. accomplishments and you are not what you. do, do you comprehend that? Because if. you don't comprehend that, raise your. hand for a second. If you're like, "What. do you mean I'm not what I do? What do. you mean I'm not my accomplishments?" If. I was to ask you about yourself, how. many of you would start with your. accomplishments or your career or what. you do? >> You would, right? You'd be like, people. just when people would ask me who I am, I'd be like, "Oh, well, you know, I. started on YouTube. I have this many. followers and I did this for my career.

and none of those things are who I am as. a person. >> So my therapist was trying to teach me. that I'm not what I do. Now me growing. up in a brown family, I'm like that's. garbage because I was solely praised and. loved for getting good grades, for. getting into a good school, for having a. good job. Like it was conditional, right? So then I started fighting with. Chat GBT because she was like, "No, you're not what you do. I agree with. your therapist." And I was like, "Well, you're an idiot. You don't know what. you're talking about." Right? And so I. literally said, "If you're so smart, chatbt, you tell me who I am and don't.

use a single one of my accomplishments.". And then she did. >> Wow. >> And when I tell you I weeped like a. small child, she was like, "Based on this. conversation you had with when you told. me about your friend, you're a. compassionate friend and you care about. other people when they're hurt. based on. these questions you've asked me about. your dog. You deeply care about animals. and you deeply care about being a good. dog mom based on this thing where you. were upset about this. You she just gave. me this didn't name late night, didn't.

name followers, didn't name a single. film, not a single TV show, and it was. truly revolutionary. So, I'm not saying. that all AI is good, but I'm saying. Chachi though, um I encourage you all to. to use it in that way because it's. really helpful. >> And then you put a ring on it. >> and then now we're married. [laughter]. Yes. And now we're married. Yeah. >> That is amazing. I love it. Who's going. to use chat now for that? I'm telling. you. For that purpose. >> No, it's real. It's it's it's it's that. >> it's okay. We got one or two boos and.

I'm okay with that. >> I I I personally I mean I think it's. giving you the record of your life that. you forget, >> right? Like you forget all of that. And. in the darkest m by the way, um I've had. like either a client or a friend. I've. had three people in my life this week. call me and tell me they just got broken. up with. And I don't know if it's cuz. summer's coming up or something like. that, but but like these three people. like first one been in a relation for 3. years, second one been in relation for 2.

years, third one been in relation for 3. months. Probably deserves it. But the. but I digress. The the first two though. No, but like the first two like. we all get to points in our life where. we feel like river where there is that. loneliness. where you can't see your worth. >> These two women I'm talking about that. are clients of mine are currently in. periods of their life where they can't. see any worth. They don't see any. selfworth because they've just been.

broken up with by people they thought. they were going to spend the rest of. their lives with. And they are in that. exact space. And here's the interesting. thing. You can have your friends tell. you how beautiful you are. You can have. your friends and your therapists and. everyone tell you how amazing you are. and all of that stuff. And reality is. you need to be reminded by yourself more. than anyone else. Because how many times. have you stood by someone you love. through a breakup, told them all these. wonderful things, but they can't see. them. That's where, and this is not an.

ad for Chad PT, but that is where this. idea that this piece of technology can. hold on to a record of you and your. conversations and remind you in your. most difficult moments of all the beauty. that you have within you. But you. realize it's only your words. You know, this isn't another person. and all of a. sudden you start to realize, oh, that's. in me. There is worth in me. So, it's. definitely something not to undervalue. and underestimate because I do think. that's what we're missing. We're missing.

that, you know, moment where you can. just look through the files of your life. >> and remind yourself of all the moments. where you were courageous, resilient, worthy. And we all go through dark. periods like that where we can't see it. Um, and I know that if if the people I'm. talking to had access to that, I. actually think it would benefit them a. lot. >> Yeah, totally. I feel like by human. nature, if you were to ask people like, "When's the last time you failed," you'd. probably immediately think about that. If you ask them, "When's the last time.

you were proud of yourself?" That always. takes more time. >> Yes. >> You know what I mean? So, I feel like. that is why it's been useful because. like, well, this time and this time, and. I'm like, "Baby, stop flirting with me.". [laughter]. >> It's so true. Yeah. We we remember the. bad times more than the good times. because when we go through something. good, we celebrate for a night and when. we go through something bad, we cry for. a month. >> Absolutely. >> right. Have you ever noticed that? Like. if you have your birthday, you celebrate. it for a night and then that's it. But. it's like you go through a breakup, you're crying about it for 3 months. And.

that's just how we've processed emotion. So the depth of a negative memory is. more hardwired. It's not that it was. more true. It was just more repeated. with all of this going on, Lily, and all. the selfwork you do behind the scenes, which I'm so grateful you've shared. today because this is definitely the. deepest and best I've ever heard you. explain just how powerful it is, how how. vulnerable you've been tonight. At the. same time, this doesn't stop you from.

going and Lily's preparing for something. really exciting this year. she is having. the theatrical release of her first ever. feature film which is insane right and. so it's like at the same time as going. through all of this deep work doing all. of this healing doing all of this. reflection that's not stopping you from. also building in the real world talk. before we start talking about the movie. which I really want I I really do want. to talk about in the process of that you.

directed in it you acted in it you wrote. parts of it like you know it's it's the. whole thing. Walk me through how you. don't stop yourself from having to go, "Oh, I need to pause this to do this or. I need to pause this to do that.". Because we often get lost in that. How. can you do both at the same time? >> I'm not going to lie, there was a period. of my life, and I don't know if you can. relate, uh, years and years and years. ago when I was starting my career, where. I did feel like you had to choose. Hustle, hustle, hustle, hustle. And I. don't know if it's age, I don't know if. it's just realizing that burnout's a. real thing. I think for so much of my.

life, I was in this idea that I had to. arrive somewhere. I need to get there. I. need to get there. I need to get there. I need to get there. And then you get. there and you're like, I need to get. somewhere else now. It's always this. constant chase. And I think now instead. of chasing, I'm just in an act of being. I do really believe that you can work on. yourself and be mentally healthy and. also do really cool things and have an. amazing job. I do. I actually think one. makes the other better and vice versa. I. really do believe that. I think I'm a. better.

actress, a better writer because I am. growing and because I'm mentally. healthy. I think those two are really. connected. Um, yeah. So, so I and I'm. also just a very ambitious person. Listen, I told you that I started my. career because I wanted to prove people. wrong. Uh, I still want to prove things, but I'm just trying to prove myself. right. I'm trying to prove that I can. keep growing and I can keep learning. And that feels so much better than. proving people wrong. Honestly, I when I. used to step out of my comfort zone, it. was a I'll show you. Now, it's a like.

I'm going to show you that I can do. that. You know, I I just a couple weeks. ago I So, I've always been really scared. to have an acting coach. I don't know. why. It's just the one thing I can have. a coach in most other things, but an. acting coach, it's like so vulnerable. I'm not professionally trained in. acting, so it's like a it's a thing that. makes me feel really nervous. And a. couple months ago, I was like, you know. what? Screw it. I'm just going to go. there for myself. I'm going to go there. I don't care if I look like an idiot. because you have to ask yourself a. question. Is it worth looking like an. idiot for? And the answer is yes. So. many times you don't do things because.

you don't want to look like an idiot. even though the thing is worth looking. like an idiot for. >> Is being a better actress and learning. something new worth looking like an. idiot for? Yes, it is to me. >> So I started going to this acting coach. and I go there and when I leave I'm so. proud of myself cuz it's not me being. like, "Oh, I told I leave and I'm like, "Oh my god, I did it. I'm so proud of. me." You know what [laughter] I mean? And so that's what's kind of driving me. and it feels so much better and so much. healthier. And so I think that's what's. allowing me to do all these next things. It's just I want to make little Lily. proud. >> Yeah. >> You know, I've tried so hard to make. everyone else proud. I'm just trying to. make little Lily proud now. That's.

what's driving me. >> And yeah, come on. I hear you. I hear. you. Don't be shy. That's the whole joy. of doing this live that you know, usually if me and Lily are doing this, we'd be in the studio to share it with. you live and to hear your real time. thoughts and feedback and love. It's. it's really beautiful. Wish we could. shoot every episode like this. >> I was going to say this is even if you. weren't here, me and Jay would be having. this exact same conversation. [laughter]. This is kind of what we do. >> Yeah. But it's it's when when you've got. this movie coming out, I know you. address so many. taboos that we both grew up with.

Whether it's sex, whether it's shame, whether it's expectations of women in. society. Like this movie is hilarious. I. got to see it. It was premiered at South. by Southwest last year. I was at the. premiere. It was hilarious. Like the. audience was loving it. It's incredible. and at the same time it has this like. cultural narrative that it's becoming a. part of and and kind of taking shots at. in a really positive way. >> What was what's been your favorite part.

about making it and what are you most. excited about for the people that are. going to see it? >> Um, so it's called Doing It. It is a sex. comedy that I star in and wrote and. produced. Um, and. at the age of 35 last year when I. finished writing it, it was 2 weeks. before the the strike. And so I was like. rushing to finish the script because we. had to beat the strike. And at the age. of 35 at 11:50 p.m. I was like and I. FaceTimed my mom and I said, "Mom, am I. allowed to do this movie?" And she was.

like, "And you need to know that me and. my mom have never had the talk. We have. never had the talk. As far as I'm. concerned, my mom has never had sex. [laughter]. Literally, it is not a thing. Okay. So, now I'm telling her and in this panic of. the clock ticking, I'm like, "Mom, can I. do this movie?" And she goes, "Well, what's this movie about?" And I'm like, "Okay, it's about sex. Mom, there's like. a masturbation scene. There's like a. scene where I do this, this, this, this." Then there's a vibrator scene and. there's like all these things. And my. mom's follow-up question, she goes, "Do.

you use a vibrator?" [laughter]. And that was the day I passed away. [laughter] And now this is my ghost. And. I was like, "Mom, no." And we had all. this banter. And she said the best. thing. She said, "If you think it's. okay, then you should do it." And I was. like, "Thank you, mom." So I did this. movie. And um yeah, it's basically a. 30-some yearear-old virgin finds herself.

teaching sex ed. And so it is a runchy. sex comedy. It really does go there and. it's through the lens of my character. who is Indian and her parents are Indian. and so culturally it's Indian. And I'm. shooting this movie and I'm just like so. many people are going to be so mad at. this [laughter]. and so many people need this movie. The. movie is essentially about how as women. and especially women of color like we're. never taught about our bodies. Women in. general, but especially women, we're. never taught about our bodies. We're. never taught sex should be pleasurable. We're never taught anything about sex.

We're taught that it should be shameful. and we should feel bad and we should. feel timid about it. And that has really. messed me up. Like, and it has messed a. lot of my friends up where we're so. uncomfortable with our bodies and we're. so uncomfortable talking about our needs. and what we like. And that's messed up. It shouldn't be like that. We're 50% of. the population. We should be out here. living life. [laughter] You know what I. mean? And so, the virgin is not the butt of the joke. in this comedy. She's not. is telling. the story about what it's like to be an. older woman that was never taught about.

this stuff that's like having to figure. it out and now she's learning about it. through sexed which also the commentary. to be made is it's crazy how many people. don't want sexed to be taught it's. almost like they want women to not be. informed and they want you know shock. shocking so it's it has a lot of. commentary it is a runchy comedy comes. out September 19th and I'm really. excited about it and uh. >> can't wait it's going to be in theaters. >> going to be in theaters. >> I want every single person here to grab. a fight. >> I need to make it clear like I'm. abundantly aware that there'll be a lot. of people like after the screening after.

the screening at South by Southwest I I. was like giving out vibrators. I was like you get a vibrator and you. get a vibrator and this uncle and auntie. I swear to God came up to me and I was. stressed. I was like oh my god. And. uncle and auntie they're like 60 70. years old. She pulls out the ride and. she goes thank you so much for this. I'm. so excited. I'm like oh my god we're. queen. [laughter] Yes. So, I know. there'll be some people that are like, "We need this." But I'm well aware. there's going to be a lot of people that. are probably going to be bothered by a.

very outspoken, you know, brown sex comedy, and they'll. just have to deal with it, I [laughter]. guess. [cheering] I love it. Lily, you've been amazing tonight. We. usually end every OnPurpose episode with. a final five, but you've been on the. podcast before, so we invented a new. version for guests on the tour. It's. called past, present, future. Okay. >> So, you get to pick a random card from. past, present, and future. We'll do one. for each. And you're going to answer a.

question that comes randomly from the. card. I have no idea what's in it, too. >> Let's go. >> So, this is the past set. >> Past. Let's go. >> Okay. This is so easy. >> Oh, go on. >> Do you want me to do this one? >> Read out the read out the question. >> Who was your first celebrity crush? >> There's You already know there's only. one answer to this, Jay. You already. know what it is. Tell everyone. >> It's The Rock. [laughter] You already. know it's The Rock. I grew up watching. wrestling. I'm obsessed with Dwayne The. Rock Johnson. And I've had the greatest. day of my life was when I met him. He's. one of my mentors. He was the person.

that actually encouraged me to stop. using Superwoman and start using my. name, Lily. Um, and he is just one of. the greatest people I've ever met in my. They say don't meet your heroes, but do. do if he's is the rock. >> I love it. Hans. All right. Present. >> All right. >> [laughter]. >> What would the name of your reality TV. show be called? [laughter]. There's so many ways that I could go. here. Name your reality show. Oh, come. on.

I'm going to go with. [laughter]. creative ways to torment yourself. [laughter]. That is really the trajectory of my. life. >> That's a good one. >> It I just everything I do, I'm like, really, Lily? you're going to also do. this, you're going to also be this way. Like, leave some trauma for the rest of. the people. [laughter] You know what I. mean? I just feel like I just constantly. step out of my comfort zone in that way. >> That's really good. All right, last one. of these. Future. >> Let's go. What will you embrace when you're old?

>> Okay. Thank you so much for thinking I'm. young right now. Card. What will you. embrace when you're old? I actually been. thinking about this a lot. I want to embrace the idea of always. being a student. And I think that's. because so many times in my life, I. really thought I had it figured out. I'm. like, "Got it, nailed it. No, this this. is my trauma. This I'm going to deal. with it. Perfect. Next year happens.". AND I'M LIKE, "OH MY GOD, I'M" and I. think I've just come to terms with the. fact that that is life. You're never. going to figure it out. There's always.

going to be another lesson. There's. another challenge. And so just commit to. the idea of being a student for life. knowing that life is going to force you. to learn lessons every step of the way, you know. >> Great answer. >> Lily, I want to want you to take a look. at this picture beh Oh, wait. Go on. Yeah. Picture behind you. We'll go with. that first. I'm waiting for it. >> Oh, we're waiting for the picture. >> Yeah, waiting for behind you. There you. go. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Did you guys edit it so I. have two eyebrows? I don't think I had. two eyebrows in this picture. [laughter]. >> Thank you so much, editors. Okay. work.

>> How How old were you and what did you. need to hear? >> This is a a little uh store in the mall. called Glamour Shots. >> and they do you up and they take these. pictures. I don't know. I don't even. know. I don't know what age. I'm one of. those weird people that doesn't know the. age of kids. If you tell me your kid is. seven, I'm like so when they're in high. school. Um I I maybe I was seven or. eight here. >> What did you need to hear? >> What do you guys think? What do you. think? >> Nine. >> Nine. >> 13. I wasn't 13. This is just hair and.

makeup. This is just hair and makeup. >> What what what advice did you need to. hear then? What do you wish. >> someone had said to you? >> What advice. >> what did you need to hear? >> Well, the outfit first of all, um, let me genuinely think about this. What. advice do I need to hear? >> The rock. >> Meet the rock. Very good. Um, you know, it's funny. I feel like now I'm more of. a kid than I was then. I think I was so convinced I had to grow. up really quickly and I had to figure. everything out and I had to be good at. everything and I had to commit to a path.

and commit to a lane. Probably didn't. try as many things as I should have. tried. Probably didn't take as many. risks. I probably had a lot of walls up. all the time. And it's crazy because now. I'm in the process of trying to become. that kid again to live all that, right? So the advice I would give you is like. be a kid. Live your life. You have your. whole adult life to be an adult. Be a. kid, girl. No. [applause]. I love it. And then there's a picture. behind me.

>> I thought it was going to be a picture. of you for a second. >> and I was like, "Damn, Jay, you look. good.". >> Uh, what does what does Lily need to. hear right now? >> Oh my god. Good job on the eyebrows. [laughter] Um, >> does Lily need to hear right now? >> I know what Lily needs to hear right. now. I it's kind of adjacent to the. student thing I just said, but I've been. a certain way my whole life and I've had. a lot of really big changes in my life. over the past couple years. And.

sometimes I feel like I'm so attached to. this old version of myself that even. though like life is forcing me to. evolve, I'm like, "No, but I'm this way. and this is how I describe myself, like. I'm really confident and I'm so. extroverted and I have so much energy.". right now. I think my truth is like, yo, Lily, you get a little anxious sometimes. and you spiral a little bit sometimes. and you keep telling yourself you're. this way, but like I think you're now. this person over here and that's okay. You don't have to be the same person. your whole life. >> You're allowed to be this version and.

then you're allowed to change your mind. and be this version. So, what I would. say to Lily is like stop being attached. to this idea of yourself that you know. and that millions of subscribers knew. and just be who you actually are right. now. Honor that person and then who you. want to actually be, you know? Before. [applause]. I let Lily go, I do have to tell you. this because you know when I was. starting on purpose, as I was telling. you the story earlier, Lily was one of. those guests and we were new friends.

then who said yes to being on this. podcast when it had zero listeners. because we hadn't even put out an. episode. So Lily came when we were just. figuring out what the show was. We. recorded an episode. She was in the. first five guests to ever be released on. the show. And that was all based on just. her love, trust, and kindness, if I'm. honest. Just her generosity to show up. for a new friend at the time who had an. unknown show called On Purpose that had.

no track record, no listeners, and. nothing else. And that's how real a. friend you were when we barely knew each. other. So to me that shows what an. amazing friend you are today. Where. initially I'd reached out to Lily trying. to figure out she was like, "No, I'll. fly and see you to Denver. I can't make. this other day. I'm going to come to. Denver. I'm going to come myself. You're. not even paying for my flights. I just. want to be there for you." Uh and and. for someone to do that as such a dear. friend to show up and show up so. vulnerably, deeply. I mean, it's insane.

So give it up for my dear friend Lily. Sing. >> And you're [cheering] amazing. You're. amazing. Thank you. I want to big you up one more time. Can. I? I know. I have to I'm sorry. You're. going to have to stop the music for one. second. I don't I don't I know you're. over time, but it's the last stop of the. tour. So, I'm sorry. We're just going to. have to I know I already said this, but. now so sincerely, I need to tell you. all. First of all, thank you so much for. coming to Jay's show and supporting him. He is so incredible and so amazing, but. I need to tell you, and I hope he. doesn't get mad at me for saying this. I.

get so um everybody knows he's such a. lovely person, but I truly when I say. you don't even know the tip of how. amazing he is, you know, behind the. scenes, he does so many things that will. never see the light of day because he. doesn't want them to see the light of. day. And that's why you need friends. like me that don't care about rules. When I agreed to do the show, I got an. email from his team saying, "Because. you're doing this show, Jay wants to. donate to a charity of your choice. because you're doing the show." And I. imagine he's probably done this for. every single guest on tour. He does this. a lot. He does things like, "If you do.

this, I'll donate to a charity. Don't. pay me for this thing. Actually, just. donate to a charity." He is such a. genuinely nice person who cares about. being of service. This is not a facade. This is who he is. And so, I know your. resources are so hardearned. Your time. is so hardearned. Any resource or time. you spend supporting Jay is not wasted. because he is such a good person and he. deserves it. [cheering]. And I will just say what we're all. thinking, which is how can you have a. mind and heart like this and also look.

like this. We know Jay is hot. We know. his eyes. Literally, sugar does not come. within 2 miles of this man. Okay? His. cheat meal is a diet coke using celery. as a straw. He truly this man is just. protect him at all costs. This man, support him with everything you have, please. Thank you for coming to a store. Lily sing. >> Thank you. I love you, man. >> Proud of you.

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