#1 Celebrity Medium: How to Know You’re on the Right Path (Even When It Doesn’t Feel Like It)

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you're sharing, what would be the number. one thing they would overcome? You know, I think one of the beautiful things that. unfolds and blossoms for each and every. one of us when we learn to overcome the. fear and the doubt surrounding. guidance in our own lives is this. beautiful knowing unlocks for us and. we're guided into the most magical. experiences that we couldn't even have. dreamed of. There's a little bit of a.

surrender that goes on to the trusting. of being guided by our teams of light on. the other side, being connected to. something greater than ourselves and. being part of that journey with others. >> And last time you were here to talk. about your last book, Signs, which I. absolutely love and I know so many of my. friends do. You're now taking a step. further with being guided. Talk to me. about the difference between signs and. being guided. Yeah. So, it's been a. journey how I've been guided in writing. my books. You know, my first book, The.

Light Between Us, was really about the. truth I found out about how connected we. all are and what that can mean for our. lives and the lives of those around us. And signs was really, it was really more. like enough about me. This is about you. I don't expect anyone to believe me and. what I'm saying because of my. experiences. Go and try this for. yourself. create this language with your. team of light on the other side. Ask for. specific signs. You're going to get.

them. And guide is is what happens when. you trust those signs. When you follow. that path that those signs have created. for you, that's when the magic happens. That's when you begin to not only be in. communication with your team of light, you are led on a journey by them. >> Now, who is your team of light? How do. we know who this team of light is? How. are we aware of who they are? >> Such a great question. We all have a. team of light. This is what I've come to. understand over the many decades that.

I've done this work and connected with. the other side. I always feel we have a. three-part team of light. The first part. is God energy. It's this force of love. that's inherent in us that connects us. to each other that guides us onto our. highest path. It's love. It's. forgiveness. It's gratitude. It's all. those beautiful emotions. That's how. we're guided. The second part of our. team of light, and everybody has this, is what I refer to as spirit guides. Now, throughout time in history, a lot.

of different religions have referred to. this concept as guardian angels. And. that's a fine word to use, too. I just. call them spirit guides. And from what I. see, most people have between one and. three, sometimes more. Um, and they're. not anybody we knew this lifetime. They're just advanced angelic beings. that our souls contracted with before we. came here to Earth School to be mentored. and guided by. Because here in Earth. School, we're having this collective. lesson in love. And the only purpose is. any opportunity we have to give our love.

or receive other people's loves. That's. it. Our true currency is kindness, forgiveness, gratitude, love. And our. spirit guides will help us navigate this. earth. Some people are really in tune. with their guides and they'll say, "Oh, I know what my guides look like. I had a. dream of one or I had a vision of one.". And other people will have this vague. sense of somehow being nudged sometimes. or watched over, but they won't really. understand what that is. And both are. fine.

>> And then the third part of our team of. light is anyone we ever loved who's. crossed to the other side. Pets. included, ancestors we may have never. met included. They all guide us as well. and they're there to help us every. single day. >> So, it's this really beautiful. collaborative team on the other side. that's there for us. We just need to. open our minds and our hearts more to. invite that guidance in and to also hear. it when we receive it and honor it. >> I love that. And I just want to reflect.

on that for a second for myself. And I. hope when I do that, it gives you. permission at home or whether you're. walking or whether you're driving to and. from work or cooking right now while. you're listening to us. I've always felt. the presence of God energy in my life. So that one makes sense to me. And I. love that you broadened that definition. to forgiveness, love, gratitude. So I. think we all know what that feels like. where we feel like someone's looking. over us. There's shelter. there's. pointing in the right direction and and.

sometimes even in times of difficulty. there's someone who's helping us carry. our pain and whatever else it may be. The second one really stood out to me. because I think this year I had a really. strong experience of it. [snorts] So my. monk teacher who's now 75 this year his. friend who was also a monk and they were. peers passed away. maybe around. over 20 22 years ago.

>> and I never knew his friend. So my monk. teacher spent around six weeks by his. friend's bedside as he had cancer and. every day they would discuss God. They. would meditate together. They would pray. together. They would share their. reflections and realizations. And I. would always hear about this friend. through my monk teacher and through our. community. I never met him. I never knew. him. I never saw him live. He passed. away before I got engaged with the.

spiritual community. But I always felt really connected to. his work and his work was translating. ancient wisdom for modern times. And so. for me, I had a natural affinity to his. work. >> And what was really fascinating was. I would often. pray to him or ask him for guidance on. how to uh serve my teacher and my. spiritual teacher, which is common in. our culture of how to how we connect.

with our teachers. And I always felt. that he'd been looking over me. I by the. way, I've never had a I've never done a. psychic medium session. I've never. communicated with him directly. I've. never I've never had a face to face with. him in any sort of ethereal form. This. is purely me internally feeling all of. this. And what was really really special. this year is that I was asked to give a. commencement speech at a university and. I got asked by Princeton of all. universities and there were a couple of.

universities that we were talking to and. I wasn't in charge of choosing the. university. was the university that. chose me and he went to Princeton. >> and. >> wow what a sign. >> so and after all these years of kind of. being and I couldn't believe it and then. when I went to Princeton I didn't even. know this but one of the faculty was. showing me around their beautiful church. that they have there and on the side of. the church they have significant members. or. alumni of Princeton that have not.

plaques but carvings in the stone. >> right [snorts]. >> and as we were walking past. I saw his. name [gasps]. >> on the ch and it was right there. >> And it was just one of those moments. that for me I couldn't help but think. that. he'd been a part of my journey up until. now in so many ways. And again, like I. said, I've never talked to him directly. I've never worked with a psychic medium. I've never I've never had a interaction. with him or even talked to my teacher.

about him. I've never had a But the. exchange is there. And so when you talk. about this team of light and you talk. about people that we've never even met. that we're connected to, I feel so. connected to him. I could have tears in. my eyes right now. Never met him in my. entire life. Never embraced him, never. held his hand, never looked him in the. eyes physically. And so yeah, I I love. when you broke down the team of light as. those three areas. And then of course, like you said, pets, people we've loved, which I think makes more sense to people. because there's people we feel connected.

to. I love that description of the team. of light. It's beautiful. It's really. beautiful. >> I love this story and I love how guided. you were to make that speech at. Princeton and then all the light you put. into the world by doing that. And I find. it so interesting that you say, "I've. never, you know, had a psychic. mediumship reading. I've never spoken to. him directly because you have by by. directing your thoughts to him by. connecting in that beautiful heartfelt. way by being on that shared mission of.

bringing light and meaning into people's. journeys. You are so connected with him. I love that you called upon a spirit. guide to step in and guide you. >> Yeah. Magical. >> Yeah. Yeah. No, the reason why I was. saying I haven't is because I want. people to I I want people to almost. become conscious of how we're doing this. anyway. >> Yes. And nobody ever needs a psychic. medium. That is my big message. We have. that doorway within us. We just need to. recognize that it's there. >> Honor it, trust it, and leave it open,

which is how you live your life. >> And look at the beautiful path you're. guided on and all the light you bring to. so many people by honoring that truth. >> Yeah. I I just I've always believed that. we can be mentored by people we've never. met. And I've spent a lot of my life. studying other people's lives that I've. admired, whether it was Martin Luther. King, whether it was Malcolm X, Steve. Jobs, people I've never met and never. had access to. And I feel so connected.

to them in that way simply through. reading what they wrote. And I feel. people are so alive in what they wrote. and what they've read and what they. heard. And I think we take for granted. today we live in a world where you can. listen to a podcast with anyone. But I. truly believe that if someone picks up. this book, they're interacting with you. and then they're interacting with their. team of light. Like there's there's just. so much more available to us than we. think. So how do we get over our logical.

rational brain that just goes, Jay, that's just a crutch. That's just. placebo. That's make believe. Your story. is cute, but you know, it's like. whatever. That could have been any. university. Princeton's a top. university. You know, someone who just. kind of looks at it through skepticism. and cynicism. I'm assuming if we're skeptical and. cynical, we can't connect. But maybe. that's the beginning of the path. How do. we start? If our skeptical and cynical. brain, which I have for sure as well.

about these things, what do we do with. that? Yeah, I think this is such a. beautiful and important question because. I think that we arrive here as new souls. and we don't really have language yet. And the way that we're communicating. with our caregivers and feeling our. environment is all through our intuitive. and psychic senses. We are sensing and. understanding this language of love and. unseen energy. But then we start formal. schooling and we literally retrain our. brain waves from all different parts of.

our brain only into the frontal lobe. >> This training period usually happens. between age 5 and seven. So. kindergarten, first grade, second grade. By that time, 98% of your brain wave. activity is going to be exclusively in. that frontal lobe. So what's that. frontal lobe in charge of? And what have. we learned there? It's in charge of. analytical thinking, critical thinking, math, language skills, day-to-day. living. It's in charge of logic, and. it's based in this material paradigm of.

belief that if you can't see it and. touch it, it doesn't exist. Now, truthfully, energy is the truth of our. existence. And unseen energy all around. us and unseen connection and unseen. paths and guide guidance, that is the. truth of what we're experiencing. But we. are so trained into that frontal lobe. So the biggest challenge we're going to. have when it comes to embracing this. connection with our team of light and. opening to it and really receiving that.

guidance is trusting it. >> And everybody when they when they start. creating a language of signs, here's the. most typical thing that will happen. They'll ask their team of light for a. very specific sign to let them know I'm. on the right path or you're with me. Let's say they ask for um a purple. elephant. They'll get the purple. elephant and then their monkey mind will. get in a wrestling match with the. spiritual experience and they'll hear.

this. All right, I don't know that could. have been a coincidence. >> So you'll say to your team of light, okay, just send me one more sign so I. know that was a sign. And then you get. the second sign and you pause and you. say, "Send me one more sign. Send me one. third sign and then I'll totally trust. it." You get the third sign and you're. like, "Now I just totally believe for. about a week and then you're like, "Send. me another sign." And I think this. struggle is something that we just have. to live with because I don't think our. brains are the source of our.

consciousness, nor are they the source. of our connection to our team of light. or each other. They're more like dun. caps that keep us from remembering that. the other side is our true home and keep. us from understanding and recognizing. how we're all part of each other's. journeys. How we're not really separate. from one another. So, it is a real. challenge. But what I'm going to say is. the more you explore it, the more you. just keep testing it, the more you're. going to open to it. And when you get to.

that point where you begin to truly. trust it, >> your life shifts and transforms. And. really, that's where the magic happens. >> I think that's what it is for me in my. own experience of whatever the. connectivity is for my for me. It's it's. moving from testing to trusting and at. some point you just realize I've tested. this enough. I'm aware of it and now I should trust. it and I can actually now look at when.

what my life looks like when I trust it. and when I don't. >> Yeah. >> So now I'm no longer testing it. I'm. actually just looking at my life going, "Okay, I made this decision. I was not. trusting myself. I made it based on pros. and cons and advantages and. disadvantages and I didn't feel anything. or I even knew I didn't feel it and I. still said yes and now look at where it. went." But here I was actually clear and. I trusted it. So I don't even need to. test it anymore. I can actually see the. difference between not trusting and. trusting. And that becomes really clear.

to me. And I feel like in the last few. years I've made so many decisions where. I haven't trusted because I thought. there were better things to follow or. people who knew more or whatever it may. have been. And then there are times when. I've fully trusted. And I've always been. happier and more satisfied when I've. fully trusted. Always. And and when I. say trusted, and I want to help people. with this, and I want you to help people. with this. Let's say someone's listening. to us right now, Laureline, and they. they're stuck in a bad relationship. They're stuck in a bad career that they.

hate. They're in a difficult situation, and they're almost looking up going, "Why me? Why is this happening to me? Like, what's what's wrong with me?". the the questions that we naturally ask. when we're in positions of pain and. stress and pressure. How does that person open up for. guidance or trusting themselves when. they feel that trusting themselves is. what's got them into this mess? Oh, wow. These are such this is such a wonderful. question. First, let me say I love the.

almost reflection you've done in your. own life to think, let me look back at. the choices I made that were not. intuitively based, but logically based. and how that turned out for me versus. how when I trusted this pull or this. knowing or this guidance I was feeling, it led me to happiness. I think that's. so important because intuition, connection, guidance, it's also often. counterintuitive logically to what we. think we should be doing in a logical. way. So, that's that's the first part of.

that. But you're really bringing up like. self-doubt and this sense that we all. get sometimes that I'm alone in the. world. I'm not guided. I'm not connected. to anything because if I were, I. wouldn't be where I am right now. The. most powerful thing that I have seen. when I have read for people or gone into. their energy field is so many times. people are going through very dark. experiences or they're feeling very. overwhelmed and confused. But what I see.

about their life path is that they are. completely on path that this is some. experience that their soul signed up. for. Whether it's because it's a lesson. for them or they're a catalyst as a. lesson for someone else or there's. something greater down the road that it. will lead them to that they can't see in. the moment. They're blinded to it. So, I. think a mistake we make is that when. things get really difficult or we feel. really lost, we automatically think.

we've taken a wrong turn or we're not. connected to this beautiful team of. light. The most important thing we can. do in those moments is set an intention. to be guided. We can surrender to the. other side. We can say, "Look, I've. tried everything I can in this. direction, and I thought this was the. answer, but I'm realizing I'm feeling. lost. I need you to guide me. I need you. to show me. I need you to bring the. people into my path who I'm meant to. meet, maybe the experiences I'm meant to.

have." And you can certainly create a. language of signs where you ask for a. song, a phrase, a number sequence, or. some sort of creature. You also need to. just be open to the guidance you're. already been given. So, I think it can. really be a remarkable tool when we're. in our darkest times because nobody is. ever alone. The truth I know is that we. are all so beloved and so guided even.

when we think we're alone. >> And I think surrendering to that knowing. or that truth or just surrendering to. saying, "Help me, show me, guide me," is. all we need to do. I think it's an old. religious story where this man is on a. boat in the middle of the ocean and his. boat, you know, is about to capsize and. he's on top of the boat asking God to. save him because he's a God- centered. man. And then this other boat comes by. and they say, "Hey, we'll save you. Come.

on board." He goes, "No, no, no. I'm I'm. waiting for God. I've got God saving. me." Like, so then the boat goes past. and then this helicopter comes and goes, "Hey, we'll save you." And then he goes, "No, no, I'm waiting for God to save me. Like, don't worry about it. Just, you. know, I'm just I'll pray to God. And. then the helicopter goes by. And then. the plane comes by and the same thing. has happened. And then he dies. And then. he ends up in heaven. And then he the. first thing he says to God is like, God, well, why didn't you save me? Like. obviously all I I love you. Like I'm. waiting for you to save me. And God. says, "Well, first I sent you the boat. Then I sent you the helicopter, then I.

sent you the plane. Why didn't you take. one of those? Like what was wrong with. you?" And I and I feel like sometimes. that's what signs are like, that they. don't always come. Talk to me about. signs that come in the way you want. I.e. I want to see a particular bird or. creature or pink a purple elephant. But. what about the signs that show up in the. way you didn't ask for them? Yeah. It's. a it's this beautiful co- collaborative. language. So while we can certainly ask. for specific signs, what we need to.

recognize is signs are all around us at. all times. It's this language that's. created also by your team of light. So, they're going to put all sorts of signs. on your path. Pay attention to license. plates. Pay attention to things that. show up in your social media feeds. Pay. attention to people who are placed in. your path to experiences that are. offered to you. The universe is giving. us invitations all the time, but if we. don't have our minds and our hearts.

open, we miss them, >> right? So I think so often we're guided. in a profound way that we miss because. we're so stuck in this analytical way of. thinking in this materialistic way of. thinking that we miss the magic. And I. think the story you just shared. illustrates that completely. We're so. set in the way we think we're going to. receive it or exactly what we think we. need to receive that we miss all the. beautiful things being sent our way. I. think too it's a matter of setting an.

intention within ourselves where we say. help me see the signs, the guidance, the. messages, the meaning that I am maybe. missing in some ways. >> How do we how do we know the difference. between our intuition and our mind? >> That's such a great question. So, here. is what I can share about what I've. learned about intuition versus what. we're generating in our own minds, which. is often, you know, anxiety, chattering.

talk. It's what, you know, meditation. teachers call the monkey mind because it. never stops and it tells you a story. about your life and who you are and. what's going on and it's often very. negative, especially to yourself. So, how do we tell the difference between. that and when we're really in a state of. deep connection or receiving information. from our team of light or in an. intuitive way? Well, here's what I've. come to learn. Intuition, messages from the other side, deep.

knowings, it never comes with emotion. It comes very neutrally. It will arrive. as a knowing. That is a term called. clear cognissance, which means clear. knowing. You don't know how you know it. It's no logical way you could possibly. know it, but you know it. And it could. be really wonderful information. It. could say something like, um, tomorrow. you're going to, you know, have this. incredible experience and meet this. person who is one of your soulmates, but.

it won't come with any sort of like, oh. my gosh, you might have a reaction after. that, like, oh my gosh, tomorrow I'm. going to meet this amazing person. destined for my path. Or you might get. uh this knowing this download. You know, oftentimes it's referred to downloads. I've heard a lot of creative people talk. about getting downloads, a sense of. getting information from somewhere. outside of themselves, right? You'll get. a download that's maybe saying like, "Oh, your car's going to break down. tomorrow." But it won't come with. negative emotion. You'll receive that. information and then you might react.

emotionally like, "Oh, no." But it will. come neutally. And so if you're in a. state of anxiety and fear about things, that is not coming from your team of. light. That is not coming from God. energy. It is not coming from your. guides. It is not coming from your loved. ones who are also guiding you. That's. coming from that frontal lobe monkey. mind that's chattering. And I think it. can be so helpful when we get into those. moments where we have so many negative. thoughts coming and we're so anxious to.

remind ourselves that that is not coming. from our spiritual self. And a really. easy way to kind of reconnect, I think, with our spiritual self and get grounded. in our own light and reconnected with. our team of light is through simple. breath work. The other sides told me the. the moment that our soul really attaches. to these physical bodies is the moment. we take our first breath. The moment it. leaves is with our last breath. So just. by focusing on breathing like in through. your nose fully and slowly and out.

through your mouth three times, you're. going to get in that state of. reconnection. So if anybody ever has a a. moment where they're like, "Oh, I'm. feeling this thing. Is this from coming. from me and my anxiety or is this a. knowing from the other side?" Just do. the little breath work and wait and see. how you feel in the moments after. >> One thing I've been reflecting on lately. is how even the smallest choices can. create a big impact over time. Whether. it's choosing to spend a quiet night in. to recharge or making a decision that.

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comparison, stress, like we're not really there's. not a space for knowing because it's. clouded and so noisy in all of these. other unhelpful, unhealthy, or maybe. they're not unhelpful and unhealthy. Maybe they're helpful and we're not. looking at them right. But I find that. the mind is so the monkey mind is the. best definition. It's just jumping from. branch to branch to branch to branch to. branch to branch to branch and then. you're exhausted. >> Yeah. >> And we've lost that ability to stay.

still and and hear internally. I also. think that we're living in a time where. we think all the right answers are. outside of us. So. >> what does everyone else think is right? What do my friends think is right? Do my. parents think this is good for me? And I. think a lot of people have become. dependent on thinking well if my parents. think it's good for me or if my family. does or if my friend do then it is. And. so we don't really even know how to. start trusting ourselves again. >> Yeah. And I think one of the most.

powerful and magical things we can do on. our own spiritual journeys here is to. trust that knowing that light that. connection we have within ourselves. And. when we trust that it's a very different. feeling. It's a It's a feeling of peace. It's a feeling of calm. It's a feeling. of knowing. And it's accessible to us. I. think the most important relationship we. ever have here while we're on Earth. School is the one we have with. ourselves. M. >> and if we disconnect from our truths or.

what we have as our knowing in terms of. what our highest path might be or that. that pull that we get inside sometimes. where something lights us up and we want. to we want to do that or we want to. follow that but then our monkey mind. says no that's crazy why would you do. that or you can't do that you've got all. these other things to do or that's. outside the norm for you I think when we. trust that inner voice that inner. knowing that is our connection to our. team of light. That's our connection to.

our highest self and that's also our. connection to our highest path. >> So it's really internal work. The. doorway is within. You don't need anyone. else to access it for you. You just need. to start trusting your own light, trusting your own knowings and use that. as your inner guidance, as your inner. compass. >> And I think that that's fuzzy for people. because it's almost like if you've done. it long enough, it's become clearer. So. you're aware, but if someone's just. starting out, I imagine they're like,

"Well, I don't know if this is trauma, if this is the past." ask like let's say. someone's dating someone and there's a. part of them that's like I'm not sure. they're the right person but they don't. know if that feeling is them wanting. chaos. when this person is more peaceful or. maybe they truly don't have chemistry. with this person and they're wondering. and I think that's where people get lost.

where it's like how do I know it's the. light how do I know it's the inner voice. versus all these thoughts I'm having. what can you do to help people right now. that can encourage them to know how to. connect with their knowing and move in. that direction. >> Yeah, I think that's such a great. example, right? And again, it's that. that inner narrative we have that. questions and our inner narratives are. often very fear-based. They're often. very mean to ourselves, too. So, if. you're having these thoughts and you can.

recognize that they're coming from a. place of fear, the most important step. is to pause for a moment and then talk. over the thoughts with love. So, let's. say you're having thoughts like, I don't. know if I can trust myself. Am I in this. wrong relationship? I don't know the. answer. Well, maybe you're not supposed. to know right now. It's a journey and. you'll know and you'll arrive at that. knowing in divine timing. So what you. need to do in those moments is in your. thoughts talk back to yourself and say.

actually. I am a spirit in a human body having. this beautiful experience of collective. love and I'm so excited to be open to. another day of guidance. I trust that. I'm in connection with my team of light. and I trust that I'm going to be guided. into the experiences that I need to have. to grow my own soul. >> and leave it because you're we're all on. journeys and we're not supposed to have. the answers right away. And often times. we're so interconnected with other.

people's journeys that we might be there. as a catalyst for theirs or they're. there as a lesson for us or it goes both. ways. We can't fast forward that. If we. get into moments where we're confused, that's a wonderful opportunity for us to. get really grounded in our own light and. be patient and wait to be on this. journey to find out our truths and our. answers. We're all seekers. And if. you're having a moment of confusion. where you're like, I don't know. I don't. know. Remember that you're a seeker and.

remember that there's a divine timeline. going on here and then surrender to. that. >> Yeah. I found for me three simple things. that have helped me know the difference. between my intuition and my mind. I. found that my mind will be loud and my. intuition will be quiet. >> Yes. >> So when my mind wants to say something. to me, it will it will literally shout. it at me like this was how it was meant. to be done. This is what you should be. doing. What's wrong with you? It's. really loud. Whereas my intuition is. quite quiet and be like just I feel this.

way. I think this, you know, it's it's a. lot more still and peaceful. I find that. my mind is more directive and my. intuition is more open. So my mind will. say this is the only thing this is the. only thing. This is the right thing. This is the wrong thing. Because my. intuition will never say that. It would. just say I feel this is the direction. you should go in. But it's not directive. in this dedactic way. And so there's. there's freedom, there's choice, there's. that. And then you just sparked that by.

saying the third where my mind is. fearbased. It's like, oh, if you don't. do this, it's going to be like this. Whereas my intuition will be like, this. is the path to love. This is the path to. peace. This is the path to happiness. This is the path to joy. And and those. three things have just really helped me. know what I'm what voice I'm listening. to because it's very rare for my. intuition to motivate me through fear or. be loud or be very very fatalistic. in in any way. And the mind wants to be.

all of those things. >> That's so beautiful what you just. shared. Absolutely. The mind is fear-based and. bossy and mean a lot of the time that's. like, you know, and intuition is never. it's gentle. There's peace. There's an. arrival of that knowing. It's kind. >> It's based in love. I love how. eloquently you just explained that. I. think that's such a helpful tool because. so many of us can recognize when we're. in those moments of having this very. negative thought patterning. And it's so.

important to pause and recognize it that. that's just coming from a place of fear. and that's not divine. It's not sacred. within your own being. >> That's beautiful how you just explain. >> No, it took it took me a while to I was. I was really trying to decipher because. >> it gets messy. We get so many signals. >> It does. Life is so messy. The the. cacophony of noise and energy coming at. us every day is so overwhelming. It's. hard to go back into our intuitive. selves and listen to that quieter,

softer, gentler voice, but it's so. important. >> Yeah, it's so important. And and yeah, I. I had to do it because Yeah, it's so. loud, it's so noisy, there's so many. signals. and you can kind of get quite. overwhelmed with the amount you have to. process. >> And so I love coming up with systems. It's almost like using the logical brain. to help. >> to crack the code of how to access the. divine connection within. Can I ask you, have you found that there are certain. places where you almost automatically.

default into a state of connection with. your team of light where you're open. more to the messages or the intuition. that comes in? >> Yeah, we we have a uh meditation room. here at the house and so I have a space. for that. >> That's beautiful. And so that I'm very. lucky to have that. But I've always had. one in every home I've grown up in. It's. it's in our tradition that you always. have that space. And so I've always had. that. Uh even when we had an apartment, it was a a small corner of of the. apartment where we had that. And so.

that's that's definitely a place I feel. it when I'm in India for sure. When I'm. back at the ashram in the monastery that. I lived at. >> Uh I feel it around certain people. I. don't think it's always just places. There's people as well. >> Beautiful. >> Feel it here for sure at home. Uh I've. tried to make it feel that way wherever. I am. >> and I find that to be a a place within. that I have to go to so that the place. is actually here. >> I love it. >> And then and therefore you're carrying. it everywhere with you so you don't you. don't feel and I think purpose you I.

mean you talk about purpose in the book. I think purpose is a big part of that. that. someone once said to me, they said, "Jay, you look so comfortable in all. these places you go to that I think most. people are uncomfortable in." And I. said, "It's because I only go to places. I have a purpose. So, I know why I'm. there. And if I know why I'm there, then. why would I be uncomfortable? I'm only. uncomfortable in places where I don't. know why I'm there.". >> Wow. >> And so, that really helps in being. clear, I feel. I think I want to talk to. you about that clarity that we want to. encourage people to have because I think.

it starts with simpler things with am I. clear about how I spend my time? Am I. clear about why I am where I am? Am I. clear about why I'm having lunch or. dinner with this person? Am I clear. about why I'm in this group of people? And I find that if people paused to. think about those things, they'd realize. they weren't clear and therefore they. didn't enjoy that person's company or. they didn't want to be around that group. of people and they come back feeling not.

great about themselves and it all comes. from a place of well why were you there? >> Yes. >> Does that make sense? >> 100%. I think so often we are just on. autopilot. We're going through the. motions. We're following whatever our. monkey mind tells us. We're following. the logic and the materialistic paradigm. that's in front of us. and we forget. about this beautiful light of intention. we have and we forget to focus on that. and so we're missing half the beauty and. we're also kind of going in the wrong. direction at times I think getting back.

into that relationship with ourselves. our inner selves where we say to. ourselves what is the intention behind. this what is the meaning for me and. sometimes we might be guided into a. situation and We might say to ourselves, why am I here? What is the meaning for. me in this moment? And if we just get. quiet, we can reconnect and we will get. a download and we will be shown the why. You know, I find too I I love how you.

shared the practices you do to get in a. state of connection. Although J, I feel. like you're always in a state of. connection. That's what I see on your. beautiful energy. Maybe you um and that. you help other people get into a state. of connection. But you know, so many. people have told me that their states of. connection almost happen accidentally in. their daily lives. Often times when they. take showers, I think it's because our. our monkey mind is so distracted on. shampooing our hair, doing this that. it's on this kind of autopilot of.

physicality that we get these downloads. and connections from the other side. So. I've heard so many entrepreneurs say, "I. got this idea in the shower." Or people. will say like, "I don't know, let me. sleep on it." So the sleep states. another time we're in that state of like. connection with our intuitive self and. knowing driving believe it or not we'll. get these downloads sometimes doing like. menial tasks like cleaning up or. something like that we'll be in a state. of connection and I think what I find so. beautiful about that is our teams of.

light are always looking for moments. that they can jump right in show us. their presence help us understand our. journey more guide us on our path more. it's just even better if you create the. space in the way that you have where. maybe you have a a little sacred space. or you open to the practice of. meditation which can it's so beautiful. right so when we pray we're directing. our thoughts for the to the other side. and they're always heard but when we. meditate we're listening back we're. listening for the guidance and so what a.

wonderful practice to create that in our. own lives. >> wow I mean I love how you just gave us. so many simple moments in the day that. we all have to do anyway. that can all be these moments of. >> connection and downloading because we. often look at these things as so. redundant or kind of a bit like ah just. things we have to do and and I couldn't. agree with you more on the driving one. I always say to people, people always. say to me, "What what music do you. listen to in the car?" And I said, "When. I'm on my own, I don't listen to.

anything because I feel like that's like. the most open channel I have." And so I. always drive in silence. Even on really, unless it's late at night and I have to. stay awake, then I have a late. [laughter] night drive playlist cuz then. I'm like, "Oh, I don't want to go to. sleep." But but if I'm driving and my. energy is good, I will drive in silence. because I find I I don't know what it is. about that where you're so right where. the monkey mind is off. You're you're on. a monotonous highway and there's you're. still obviously attentive to the road. and I'm not closing my eyes, but there's.

a feeling of thoughts coming and ideas. coming that I wouldn't unlock anywhere. else. >> I love that and I love what you're. saying about being in a state of. silence. I think so many of us get. trained from a young age to be in the. state of noise and go go and not have. that silence. So how beautiful when we. welcome the silence and we open to it. because that's where the guidance will. really show up. >> How do we do that when we've become what. you just said it's become so. uncomfortable for people and it is hard.

like I empathize with people who have. been overexposed to noise. sound music. It makes you feel. comfortable. It makes you feel safe but. you're not really getting anywhere. right? Like it's you listen to your. favorite playlist. It makes you feel. great and and it does, but it doesn't. really make you feel great. Like it's. not. >> Does that make sense? There's a. difference between like There's a. difference between feeling good and then. a good feeling. >> Yes. I think music can shift your energy.

and like change your vibration and bring. all this light in and change your mood. But I think what you're talking about is. it maybe doesn't connect us super fully. with our own inner voice, inner. guidance, team of light downloads. And. so one of my favorite recommendations to. people if you really want to try to. create space to listen back is to go on. a walk. Don't put your ear buds in. Just. go for a walk. It's actually called a. walking meditation. When you go for a.

walk in nature, right? And you're going. to be fascinated because what you end up. doing is when you're in a state of. silence on this walk, you start first to. notice the small details of beauty. around you. You know, these glimpses of. God energy that's been put in your path. You might notice the beautiful sky. that's also been put right in your path. for our connection. And then you might. also notice that you start getting. information in a way that's other than. your normal senses. I always talk about.

the psychic toolbox we all have and I. think understanding what these kind of. what I call the floor clares are might. help people access that part of. themselves and the other thing is I. think many of us are doing this. automatically anyway we might just not. have a word for it so you know the first. one's clairvoyance and it means clear. seeing and it's this concept of you know. when we sleep at night and our physical. eyes are closed but we're vividly seeing. things in our dreams that's our psychic. vision it's what a lot of cultures have. called the third high, but we always.

have that available to us at all times. And so, learn to trust it in your waking. hours, too. Like for me, I always kind. of see people in colors. It's a form of. synthesia, blending of senses. That can. happen for anyone. You might learn that. there's a whole kind of clairvoyant. energy that's accessible to you to. perceive in different ways. Or you might. meet somebody and get little glimpses on. your inner, you know, mind's eye screen. Trust all that. There's also clair. audience, which means clear hearing. And. it's when we hear a thought that comes. to us, not from us. And this is a.

beautiful way that our teams of light, our loved ones on the other side, our. spirit guides, God energy can connect. with us and guide us in a very direct. way. But you know what I find happens. when people have these moments of. thoughts arriving to them. They tend to. dismiss it. They're like, "Where did. that come from?" And just ignore it. Pay. attention to that. Then there's clear. cognizance which I've mentioned which is. clear knowing and is this all of a. sudden download of information where you. just know something in every ounce of. your being. And do you know how you can. tell if you're really really sharp and.

open clar cognizantly if your friends. and maybe family members throughout your. life have said to you, you know, you. give really good advice because what. you're actually doing is you're tuning. in to get information for them in a. clare cognizant way. And then there's. clair sentience which means clear. feeling. It's this idea of feeling all. the unseen energy around us. So an. example of that is meeting somebody for. the first time and not just getting a 3D. impression of them but an energetic one. as well. >> And people are super open or who are.

empaths will also experience the emotion. those people are experiencing. Right? But that is an inner guidance too. We're. being guided with that because sometimes. we might feel very neutral to the. person. No harm, no foul. Sometimes we. might even have a little bit of an. allergic reaction, right? It's not. really about judgment, but it's, you. know, you're being guided away from that. person for a reason. Maybe they're not. on your highest path to know. And then. every now and then, we'll just get this. really magnetic pull to a person where. we we feel like we know them, but we've. just met them, but we know we're meant.

to know them. We want to talk to them. We know we have a shared journey in some. way. And I think trusting. that inner guidance and creating space. for that in our lives in whatever way we. can, whether it's going for a walk alone. or if it's just being open like next. time you take a shower, say to your team. like, "Okay, I'm all in. Give me the. guidance." Just paying attention to. those tools we all have within us to. communicate, to get the information in. new ways can transform our lives. One of.

the things I love too when people really. tune in and trust the guidance is how it. transforms the stories that they've. often told themselves about everything. they've already experienced in their. past. You know, a lot of times what our. monkey minds might assess as a failure. in our life actually isn't. It was a. beautiful journey of understanding or we. did something extraordinary for someone. else that we're not recognizing. And. when we really tune into that guidance,

we begin to unfold a new story within. ourselves and it can just make our past. so much more beautiful and our future so. much more beautiful and our present so. much more beautiful. >> Well, I think that's the challenge. One. thing that you just touched on there is. that we evaluate the success of. something based on the result. >> Yeah. >> Not on the intention, not on the. intuition, not on the input. And that is. misleading because you could do.

something with the most beautiful. intention and energy and intuitive. knowing and it may not work out. externally. Right? I think sometimes people say, "Well, if this is the right person for. me, send me a sign.". But because you weren't clear in your. question, right person for what, >> right? They could be the right person. for right now to teach you a lesson or. for you to learn something. But but the. problem is when you say the words right. person, you mean the person I'm going to.

spend the rest of my life with. >> And so talk to me about how clear we. have to be as we communicate. Because I. think I've heard a lot of people get the. exact sign they want, but then that. doesn't end up being the exact person. they want. Yeah, I love this question. because I think what we're really doing. is we're experiencing life in a very. limited way when we ask questions like. that. Here's the truth. The universe. always dreams bigger for us than we can. And there is a connectivity that spans.

over time and a much bigger picture than. we can often see in our little myopic. view of the here and now or where we're. at in our lives or the experience we're. having. So the question I would love. people to ask instead of is this the. right person? Is this the right job is. to change how we're asking the question. and here is how it could be asked. Is. this person my highest experience to. have in this moment? Am I on my highest. path right now by having this journey.

with this person? Am I in my highest. path right now by being in the career. I'm in? If so, send me a sign. So, the. signs aren't the answers. They're the. reassurance of our own inner guidance. It's that reassuring knowing that we. have that we are beloved. We are guided. And even if we can't understand the. experience we're having, there is. something divine in it. It's trusting in.

our team of light. It's trusting in our. purpose even when we can't see it. And. this is the hard part. It's surrendering. to the experience. We all want the. answers right away. There have been. times that I'll get downloads in my life. from my team of light and they will say. to me, "This is all we're telling you. right now. You are not allowed to know. anything else." And I call it being. blocked because I can see. It's as if. there's a door in front of me. They. won't let me see. And in those moments, I know something divine is going on.

It's that I'm meant to experience either. a moment of patience or a moment of. trust or there's a bigger picture going. on that I'm not meant to know the. answers for. And it's in those moments. where I have learned to surrender. And. the moment I surrender to that, magical. things unfold or within time I'm shown. how that mattered or why I was in that. situation or why that didn't unfold in. the timing maybe I wanted it to. But. this truth isn't just a truth for me. It's a truth for us all. No one is.

forgotten by the universe. No experience. is accidental. No relationship is. accidental. There is a divine cord of. light and meaning and connectivity in. all things. Each and every one of us are. part of each other's journeys in ways. that we can't really see or fully. understand when we're here. But trusting. in it, trusting in that guidance and. asking for the guidance to be shown that. I'm on my path. I'm having the. experiences I've meant to right now and.

I am not alone. That's the question we. should be asking to be reassured of in. beautiful ways. >> I'll just give you an example from my. own life. >> My youngest daughter is applying to. colleges this coming year. She's a. >> congratulations. >> Yeah, it's really an exciting time and. we toured all these colleges and we went. to one particular college that I loved. and I was like if I were going to choose. college again, this was the one I was. going to choose. And in that exact. moment of feeling like the state of like.

connection and being guided even in. where we were going, I glanced across. the street and randomly out of the blue. was one single orange like the fruit an. orange which long ago I established with. my team of light to mean you're. completely on path. We're here with you. You're on your highest path. And I saw. it and I got a download from my guides. too and they said to me this is an. example you can share because we're not. telling you this is the college. We're. telling you that the college she is.

meant to go to is being divinely. orchestrated. She is being divinely. guided and just trust the process. Don't. force anything. Just experience. And it. was such a beautiful moment for me. because it took all that pressure off of. like, let me analyze everything that's. going on, the energy I'm feeling, what I. think is the best match for her, then. how to make things happen. No, it was a. reminder to me how guided we all are, but how loved and supported we all are. on the journey.

>> And surrendering to that guidance, I. think, makes our journeys so much more. peaceful. It brings an ease. It brings a. light. It brings a magic to it. And it. makes us realize we're not the only ones. who create things and drive things. There's a force so much greater than. ourselves that's watching over that's. bringing us to these experiences and to. the people we're meant to know and to. the knowledge we're meant to gain in. such a profound and beautiful way.

>> I I love what you're saying. I was just. taking a note down about something you. mentioned that stood out to me. I love. what you're saying because it it helps. so much with this. life in which control has become our. primary mechanism of growth. And I've. always seen it as this beautiful balance. between endeavor and surrender. >> Yes. That. >> which is this beautiful dance and play. >> Yes. But when endeavor becomes control.

and surrender doesn't exist, it becomes really hard actually because. you want everything to work out exactly. how you planned it. And if it doesn't. happen exactly how you planned it, >> then it's not good. It won't be good. It. couldn't be. And I think, well, wait a. minute. What if it was better? What if. you learn something that becomes useful. for the future? What if it being pushed. back and further than you thought. actually ended up making it the perfect. timing? And and it's how do we open.

ourselves up to those ideas? I love what. you're saying. How do you actually. because we've been so conditioned in a. world of control where if it doesn't. happen like this, then it's not going to. happen and it's not right. Because. >> I I was just thinking about the other. day. I was thinking about this really. this morning. It was my friend got. married eight years after me, but is. having children before me. But we live. in a world where. we think a timeline has to go linearly. And.

>> people would have said to him, "Oh, you're getting married so late and now. you have kids so late and whatever." And. it's like, but it doesn't work like. that. But we live in this life that's. very rigid. Yeah. >> How do we break that? How do we. >> how do we move through that? Because how. do we rise to peace and surrender and. when when we live in a world that's all. about control and. >> planning? How do we have a spiritual. experience when we're living in such a. materialistic paradigm of belief? >> Yeah. I think the most important thing.

we can do is recognize that our inner. narrative when it's mean, when it's. bossy, when it's controlling, when it's telling. us a story of what needs to happen in. order to either be like the rest of the. people or gain some control over our own. lives or especially if we get this kind. of panicky feeling about how things are. going or did we miss like that that idea. of like FOMO, fear of missing out right. when we get that sense of oh my goodness. I need to be there or I need to have.

done done that already or that needed to. happen yesterday or am I off path is to. recognize that that's not your spiritual. self. >> to recognize that there's a divine. guidance for each and every person and. what is meant to be for one person in. one timeline is the exact opposite of. what might be for you in your timeline. It's to get into that state of surrender. to understanding that we are so loved. and we are so guided and that if we. trust in it the feeling we will get will. be one of peace,

>> of love, of gentleness. But I think. actually what you're describing is part. of our soul journey here. It's part of. the ways that our souls are tested all. the time, every day. And a lot of what. you just described too has to do with. comparison. You know, the other side. taught me long ago that the only person. we are ever competing with is oursel. It's how we're growing. But yet daily. we're going to be invited. by this materialistic paradigm of of.

belief here to be in competition with. one another, to have power over each. other, to get there first, to do this. this this mentality of almost, you know, dirt mentality. there's not enough of. any one thing, you know, or everything. has to fit this mold and if you don't do. that, you're going to miss out. That's. not truth at all. That's not how God. energy works. That's not how guidance. works. That's not why our souls are. here. >> And so, it's so easy to get caught up in. that stream of panic and anxiety and.

control and false forms of power, right? I think it's so powerful when we pause. We take this sacred pause to recognize. when we're feeling that way and where. it's coming from. And there's this. moment we have within ourselves where we. get to reject that where we say, you. know what, I can't stop these negative. thoughts. That monkey mind is chattering. and I hear it loudly and clearly, but I. reject that. You know what? No, my life.

is unfolding exactly as it's meant to. And I am so excited and I am so full of. gratitude to be here and experience all. the things I'm meant to experience in. divine timing. And I surrender to that. >> It's a practice. >> Yeah, it's a practice. >> It's a practice. >> And and it's a both. It's a it's a this. and I always try to remind people that I. think we constantly just oscillate. between extremes of okay, nothing's in. my control. Okay. Everything's in my. control. [laughter] So, so we go from.

everything was in my control. Now I've. read guided and now nothing's in my It's. [laughter] like, well, that's not what. you're saying. That's not what I'm. saying. >> Yeah. >> And I think that's the common. misconception where, >> oh, I used to be in charge of. everything. Now I just let the universe. do what it wants. And it's like, well, the universe is only reciprocating with. you and interacting with you. So, it. can't do something that you're not. opening yourself up to. So, it's. endeavor and surrender together. >> Yeah. that it's this co-creation. together. And it's also showing up as.

the best version of ourselves, challenging only ourselves and our sense. of ourselves to be kinder, more loving, to look at the world with gratitude, to. look at our own lives and what's. happened to us with the lens of love, of. looking what love have I gained, not. what negativity or what experiences made. me feel less than, but who has loved me? How have I found love? What can I be. grateful for in this moment? Because. when we get in that mindset, the. spiritual self gets louder and the trust.

gets louder and we learn to show up for. ourselves in these really powerful and. beautiful ways. Being guided and leading. a guided life, it doesn't mean like. sitting back and just giving up on. everything and not it means we hold. ourselves accountable by doing this. We. search ourselves to find what gifts we. came here programmed with because every. single person comes programmed with. unique gifts. And then we honor them. We. hold sacred space within ourselves for. them and we share them with others. And.

then we come to our connection with. others with the understanding that true. power is not wielding gifts or you know. things over one another and being like. look what I have or learn from me or do. this. It's an understanding. that we all rise together and by showing. up with the best version of who we are, by honoring our gifts and like coming. with a gracious heart and coming in. trust and love and gratitude and using. forgiveness as a tool, right? We're.

automatically elevating everybody else's. experience as well. What I've learned. when I've dived into like kind of the. quantum physics of all this is that. thoughts matter more than we realize. Thoughts are energy. You know, energy. and matter are interchangeable. Einstein. proved that, right? And thoughts, the. way I'm shown, they're light energy. Our. souls are light energy. And so, every. thought we have is either putting more. light into the world or putting more. darkness in.

>> And it's an absolute truth. And so when. we have these moments where we are being. so mean to ourselves in our little. monkey minds and blah blah telling. ourselves a very mean story about an. experience that we're having or how lost. we are on path or how nothing has worked. in our favor or I tried this in it's so. important to pause for that moment and. tell ourselves a new story that no no no. no I'm having this spiritual experience. and trusting that in some way it's. connected to a collective lesson in love. for us all and that we are more. connected and part of each other's.

journeys than we can fathom and. welcoming that trust of that knowing in. >> because it will make a difference. We. get into a very different state of being. when we learn to trust in our own light. and in our connection to one another and. our teams of light on the other side. >> Laura, I wanted to ask you, what do. people come to you with the most often? What's the most common thing you get. asked when people come to see you? >> It's interesting because when I do. readings, I tell people, "Save all your.

questions. save them all till the end. because the other side always has a plan. and guides every session I do. I I'm not. the mind of God. I can only share what a. a sitter, the person I'm reading for, team of light shares with me. But I can. tell you the most common things that. they share. Often times if people come in grief, I. find what the other side wants to. reassure them of is just how present. their loved ones are. And so their loved. ones will come through and they'll start. sharing all the ways they've already.

been connecting with them. Whether it's. through a dream visitation, whether it. was through showing them a beautiful. sky, sometimes even sending messages in. clouds, um sending rainbows, sending. hearts, messing with the electricity, um. putting coins in their path, or sending. creatures who navigate our world using. electromagnetic fields such as birds, butterflies, dragonflies, deer, fox, you. name it. They like to show them how they've. already shown up in their lives.

The message they always share is our. relationship, our love hasn't gone. anywhere. If anything, it's gotten. stronger. They love being able to be. present at all times and in all places. with their loved ones. Right? So a lot. of times a person's grief journey will. be addressed but the reassurance that's. there is that the connection with their. loved ones is inherent. These cords of.

love and connection cannot be broken. And the message is there too that they. don't need a session with me to ever. access that. So a lot of times they're. showing how present they've already been. before we've ever had a session. I think. that that's very common. So. would would you have the download that. they share something like. where you ask the person sitting in. front of you. have you seen a. you know bluebird or whatever it may be.

or have you seen a butterfly and they. would say yeah I noticed it in these. moments and then that's what you're. hearing is the. >> yeah so I would be having a conversation. with let's say somebody's father's on. the other side and he might be showing. me that he's sent cardinals. and telling me that he sent these. cardinals, but let's say his daughter. got it and was like, "hm, is that a. sign?" And so then he sent double. rainbows and she got that and she said, "hm, is that a sign?" So I'll say this,

"Your father's telling me he sent. cardinals and rainbows and that you. received them and he wants you to trust. that it's him." And that's usually where. the person will have this moment of. recognizing that they did push back on. it, that they had known that deep down. that that was a form of communication. They just hadn't trusted it yet. >> So I think sometimes I'm just a. facilitator in validating what the. person already knows or I'm, you know, I. look at myself as a teacher here more. than a psychic medium. happen to be a.

psychic medium, but my real goal is to. teach people that nobody ever needs me. We all have this connection to those. that we love who's crossed to to the God. energy to our guides to that trust and. knowing and that guidance and that. feeling of being loved and connected to. anybody who we may have lost in the. physical. Right? I meant to teach them. how to access that within themselves. And here's the thing, the doorway is.

there. All we need to do, the one. component we each need to bring is to. trust it. But that's harder than it. sounds, right? Because again, we're. getting all this messaging and we have. from a very young age to not trust it, to only trust what we can see and touch. and only come up with logical plans and. that there's not enough for everybody. and you have to stick to like the status. quo and all of these things. So, it's. very counterintuitive to make that shift. within. I will also say that oftentimes. I find a topic that's brought up by.

people's teams of light on the other. side is where they might be in their. particular career or relationship at the. moment. And it's so interesting because. the message is always you're right where. you're meant to be right now. It's more. about the questions or the exploration. that might be going on. And it might. also be their team of lights saying, "We. know 2 months ago you started feeling. that you needed to make a shift in your.

career and logically it doesn't make. sense cuz you're doing great, but. they're showing me that you had this. pull to do this artistic endeavor and. they want you to trust in that." And the. person will say that did happen exactly. two months ago. I did have that, but. it's I, you know, I felt like I was. getting too big for my britches. How. dare I dream that you? The universe is. going to dream bigger for you. And if. you're having these moments of feeling. something or recognizing something. that's coming from outside of yourself,

trusting in it makes all the difference. This is the thing. Nobody needs a. reading. Nobody ever does. We just need. to know that that connection is there. And we need to have a belief in. ourselves, in our own ability to be. guided, to find our highest path and. trust our own light as well. Because I. think sometimes we think we're not. enough or we think, "Oh, I should just. stay smaller. I should stay this smaller. version of myself." you know, I.

shouldn't want more or I shouldn't pay. attention to this pull or this longing. or this inspiration I got as a download. or as a dream or this. It's paying. attention to those moments within. ourselves that are going to guide us the. most because we have the tools within. >> Yeah. And it's starting somewhere small. with those little things. Like last time. you were here, I was talking about how. >> every time I think of someone, I text. them. And so it's a really simple, easy.

way, but every time I think of someone, I think, well, that's not random. And. why don't I just tell them I'm thinking. of them? I don't not asking for. anything. I'm not messaging because I. have I don't need anything. I'm just. saying, "Hey, I was thinking of you. sending lots of love." Or whatever it. may be. >> And nine times out of 10, someone will. respond and say, "I was just thinking. about you. I was just talking about you. or I really needed that right now.". >> Yes. And I think it's doing it in those. really small ways where you're taking an. action based on the knowing rather than.

just looking around at you testing the. signs because I think that's the shift. I think if you're looking around you. constantly you're always looking outside. of yourself. To me there's some degree. of a dependence that is being developed. that is not yet selfrust. It's still. saying the truth is outside of me. Whereas when you're just listening to a. little inkling that says, "Oh, it's. someone's birthday today. Why don't you. check in with them?" Or, "Hey, did you. you just thought of this person?" Send. them a message. Call them up. Hey, why.

don't you know, whatever it may be. Oh, you saw something and you remembered. something. Buy it for them and give it. to them whenever you see them. Like, it's those little things that I think. start to get you to trust your own. knowing. Whereas if it's always, well, show me this universe, show me this, show me this, show me this, I don't know. what you're doing then to to, you know, really get there, if that makes sense. >> So Jay, what you just described to a tea. is a difference between opening to the. language of signs versus living a guided. life. >> It's trusting all those poles, all those.

chords of connection. >> And you know what? Our monkey minds. might say like, "Oh, I'm really busy. right now. I'm not going to stop what. I'm doing and go text that person." But. our spiritual self is saying, "No, no, no, no. There's this web of light and. connectivity. We're all part of each. other's journeys. And there's this like. amazing. connection of light between us all. If. it's like an invisible fishing line. between us and each other here on Earth. and us and our loved ones on the other. side, you tug on one end, the other.

person feels it. So, the greatest way we. can honor living a guided life is when. we get those moments to act on them. And. that's what we were talking about. before, saying living a guided life. isn't just surrendering and sitting. back. It's learning to trust and then. learning to have those thoughts, recognize them, and take action because. of it. Because you might end up changing. somebody's entire path that day or. helping them avoid something or giving. this them this moment of feeling so.

loved and connected and reminded of who. they are in a spiritual way. >> What a beautiful thing you do. Like you. said, everyone can do it. Like I don't. have a power. That's what I'm saying. that I don't have I know last time you. were like everyone has powers. And and. what I'm trying to say in order to help. everyone who's listening is like I'm not. claiming to have any ability. I'm just. listening. And so anyone can do that. Everyone can do that. >> Everybody has that power. We all are. psychic mediums. We don't have to call.

ourselves that, but we all have that. state of connectivity. >> And [snorts] what you're sharing is so. beautiful. I remember seeing a story on. the internet that was posted by someone. and he he posted a picture of a. sunflower and he said, "I want to share. the story." He said, "I went on a date. last night. It was really great." So, I. bought the sunflower that I was going to. go leave on her car and then I had this. moment of going like, "Ooh, that's a. little bit too intense." He said, "So, I. just had this download this sense that I. was actually meant to give this. sunflower to someone else." So, he said,

"So, I walked around and I just felt. like that I'm meant to give it to this. woman." So he walked over to her and he. said, "Listen, I know this might sound a. little weird. I bought this sunflower. thinking I was going to give it to. somebody else, but I'm I'm feeling that. it's actually meant for you. So I want. to give it to you. I don't want to just. leave it to die. I want to give it to. you." And she started tearing up and she. said, "What you don't know is that this. is my fiance's birthday and he crossed.

the other side and he used to always buy. me sunflowers." Wow. >> And he said, "And then I was weeping and. she was weeping." But it's an exact. example of being guided. We all have. these moments because being guided, it's. not just about our own journeys and. finding our own highest path and the. best relationship or the best career or. that. It's about how we influence and. effect each other's journeys, how we. bring love and kindness, how we remind. each other of the sacredness, the divine. in all of us.

>> Yeah. So, exactly what you shared, it's. doing those small actions that we feel. pulled to do for whatever reason. >> Yeah. Well, I was I was I was thinking. about. uh this example earlier where I know. someone who was telling me about how. their son has a particular affinity for. Krishna and Krishna in my tradition is. is the name of God. And they were saying. that their son likes to look at books of. Krishna and pictures of Krishna and they.

go to a temple where they can see these. But then once when they went to this. temple the there was no book and their. son was really sad that the book had. gone and it had been misplaced. >> And so I had this feeling that I would. give this gift. Now there's lots of. books of Krishna that exist in our. tradition but there's this one. particular one that I I love and have an. affinity for. And I said, "Okay, well, next time I see them, I'm going to get. this book for them." So, I went to see. them and I took this book as a surprise. and it was wrapped up. And when they.

opened the wrapping, this person like. hug the book. I was like, "Wow, that's I. mean, that's beautiful reaction, but. it's a very strong emotion, >> right?". >> And it was really interesting because I. I said, "Oh, like I I kind of I probably. didn't even say it. I just looked like, wow, that's that's pretty that's a. strong emotion to hug a book.". >> And she said, "Thank you." And was very. kind about it. And then she said, "Do. you know Laura Lynn Jackson?" And I. said, [laughter] "Yeah, I just. interviewed her a couple of years ago.". And I said, "I have a mutual friends. with her that I got introduced through.".

And she said, "Well, she told me that. when I'm on the right path, I'll see. peacocks." And that particular book. cover I gave her is Krishna standing. there. And when I say peacocks, the. whole cover is covered in peacock. feathers. And there's two peacocks right. there. and she doesn't live in a place. where she sees lots of peacocks. It's. not common. And she said that was my. sign that I was on the right path. And I. thought, how beautiful. I hadn't talked. to you about her. I hadn't talked to her.

about you. >> Right? >> There was no colluding or sharing of. information. And here we were living in. this really beautiful moment of natural. synergy that made her feel seen, made me. feel really happy. you were the the. conduit and the connector of the two. that and it was just such a it was just. such a special moment and I think we. either become so skeptical or cynical or. doubtful of these beautiful moments that. we all have in our lives. >> Yes. >> Or we we do one of two things. We either.

you know make them feel regular and. insignificant or we make them feel like. astronomical. And the truth is we should. just see them as beautiful and things we. should start to notice more. I feel like. there's not a need to look at them as. insificant or the most significant. It's. beautiful to just look at them as how. wonderful when we're all in sync. >> all in that flow of light. There are so. many things I love about you sharing. that story. The first I want to say is I. love that the other side chose you to be. the messenger. And I love that you got. this knowing like this knowing I need to.

get this book and I'm not sure why, but. I'm going to honor that knowing. You. didn't even know you were the messenger. of her sign that she was on her highest. path, right? Embrace that. And then I love right that. it showed the connectivity of the three. of us here because I've come to know too. like we have teams of light here on the. ground where there are different soul. groups working to help in different ways. and everybody you meet you're meant to. meet, right? So there's that. It's just. so beautiful and it's really trusting in.

understanding the power and the beauty. we all have to show up for one another. And and really the term I love to use is. to be angel angels in each other's. lives. >> There are so many moments where each of. us are called to be part of something. greater than ourselves. And if we ignore. those little pulls or those nudges, we. miss out on the beauty. I like just. telling people too, if you ever come. across a fundraiser, right, there's a. lot of GoFundMe and there's so many. worthy causes.

Just give $5. M. >> just give $5 and take a moment after you. do it and try to feel the energy around. it. Because when we come together as. groups, as collective energy for a. cause, for something good, out of love, out of kindness, there is a collective. energy that we become part of. And it's. so much bigger than ourselves. And so, a. really good way to feel that is to. become part of something and then sense. it. >> You know, it's really magical. We're all. part of that every day.

>> Yeah. And I just wrote that down what. you said like that's it's every day. It's every day if you notice it. >> Yes. >> And you're so right that we notice it. and we doubt ourselves for noticing it. and then it goes away. Then it then it's. it's still happening but we don't see it. at all. >> Yeah. >> And it stops showing up for us. Not. because it's not happening but because. we don't see it. >> Yeah. >> And it's it's like living in a home and. putting all the blinds down and. wondering where the sun is. And it's. like well you've blocked yourself from. it. So the sun can't get in. The sun's.

still there. >> Yeah. >> But he can't get in the house anymore. >> That's such a great analogy. And I think. anybody who is listening to this. podcast, this episode found you for a. reason. Like this is your team of light. reminding you that this is true for your. life, too. This isn't just true for the. few stories we're sharing or the. experiences we're, you know, having and. and talking about. It's true for every. single listener out there. Yeah. >> It's just a matter of like opening to it. and trusting it because the magic is. happening and it has been happening your.

whole life. >> Yeah. Has anyone ever been upset, disappointed or shocked by what they. heard from the other side? >> I I'll tell you this. Anytime that I do. a reading, I know two things. I know. that anything that comes through is on. the person's highest path to hear. And I. also know that I'm not meant to filter. anything. I think that there have been. times when I read I get very for some. reason my guides work very closely with.

me to give me very specific timelines. for people's experiences here and. sometimes you know a person's guides or. their loved ones on the other side will. be sharing that they see they're going. through a very difficult situation. and the person maybe I'm reading for. wanted that resolved yesterday and I'll. be shown that it's going to be a 9-month. journey till there's going to be a. change, but that there is a sacredness. in that 9 months and they're meant to. just hold space for this. It's not going. to necessarily get easier, but they're.

they're part of this experience. And I. can see people at times being like, "Wait, 9 months?" There have been times. where I've read for people who want to. meet their soulmate, their significant. other. And I remember one reading I did. and I was being shown a very specific. timeline and I said to the person, "This person's coming. His name is going. to start with a C, but you're not going. to meet him for about 2 and 1/2 years. And they that this was so upset. What do. you mean I have to wait 2 and 1/2 years? And granted, that's not the best news,

right? Well, it turned out in the end, this person did meet the person with the. same name. It did turn out to be this. soulmate they married and had children. with. But the person at the time of our. reading was actually married to somebody. else at the time and was about to. because I think that spiritual contract. they had learned what they were supposed. to learn. They ended up getting divorced. and then this unfolded which is also. really interesting when you think of. marriages, right? And how sometimes we. look at divorce as being the failure of. a marriage when actually that was.

exactly how that relationship was. supposed to play out. staying stuck in. relationships that no longer serve us or. help us to grow. That's a swamp. That's. not going to help anybody. So, getting. to that moment within yourself where you. say like, I honor everything I gained. from this relationship. I honor. everything I learned. I release you in. love, but I understand our contract is. up and our journey is up so that you can. be brought on a path to something else. I think so often we are so mean to.

ourselves in terms of like how we frame. what we've experienced in the past as a. failure or just like a waste of time. Nothing is a waste of time. >> I I actually say that often to people. I'm like as humans we have this ability. to be like well the last 3 years were a. waste of time. Now I'm in the right. place. >> And then 3 years from now whatever it is. you said the same thing. Oh god the last. one and a half years were a waste of. time. Now I'm in the right place. And. all you're doing is you're just taking. away all this learning growth. your. struggle, your resilience away from. yourself rather than being like, well,

these three years taught me X and now I. have that. >> Yeah. >> And it's Yeah, it's it's such a great. point and I didn't connect it to your. work, but now I get that. >> You know, I love what you're bringing. up, too. Yeah. I spent almost 20 years. as a high school English teacher and at. the end of every year I would have. students do a final assignment which was. a reflection of their journey through. literature throughout the year through. their own creative writing throughout. the year what they learned how they. changed and it would be so profound and. first they'd grumble when they got the.

assignment oh I have to reflect on it. but I think it's such a powerful moment. for each and every us every one of us to. create some space to reflect and what. you're saying just makes me recognize. I. think it would be so wonderful for. everybody who's listening to this. podcast to take a moment and maybe sit. down quietly with a pen and paper or at. your computer or in the notes section of. your phone and get quiet and then write. down a reflection of how you think the.

experiences you've had in your life have. helped you grow and shift and change. Because when we get in these moments of. journaling or writing too, we're in a. state of connectivity with the other. side and information will be downloaded. to us. And we can also hear our soul. speak. >> and it can change how we're thinking. about our entire journeys and our entire. paths here. >> Mhm. I love that. >> Yeah. >> Lauren, it has been such a joy talking. to you again. Truly, I'm so grateful. that you wrote Guided, the secret path.

to an Illuminated Life. I can't wait for. people to read it. >> Thank you. Uh, I I enjoy our. conversation so much because just being. in your presence, I feel more tuned in. I feel I I feel more naturally connected. and I think that says a lot for the work. you do. And I'm so grateful for the work. you do and reminding us of all these. beautiful abilities that we all have, that we forget, that we doubt, that we. put aside with our logical brains. And. I'm just really, really thankful that we. got to do this again. So, thank you so. much.

>> Thank you so much. I'm so honored to be. in conversation with you. and you give. off so much light and I think anybody. listening can feel that vibration and. feel that energy. I feel just listening. to you speak and discuss and dive into. these things expands them. So thank you. for all the work you do in the world. >> Thank you Laura Lynn. I hope everyone. will go and grab a copy of Guided the. Secret Path to an illuminated life. It's. available right now. We will put the. link into the comment section and into. the description. and go and grab your.

copy and please share on social media, Tik Tok and Instagram, what resonated. with you, what connected with you, what. landed with you, what's something that. you're practicing that you're. experimenting with to get closer to your. knowing, your trusting and your. intuition. Uh, thank you again for. listening wherever you are and thank you. to Laura Lynn Jackson. >> Thank you. >> Thank you. If you love this episode, you'll love my conversation with Dr. Joe. Despenszer on why stress and. overthinking negatively impacts your. brain and heart and how to change your.

habits that are on autopilot. Listen to. it right now. How many times do we have. to forget until we stop forgetting and. start remembering? That's the moment of. change. No one cares how many times you. fell off the bicycle. If you ride the. bicycle now you ride the.