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All right, welcome to I Hate Weekends. We have our favorite guest, frequent guest Charlie Goldenson, also. known as Shay Chuck online. He's a. political strategist, content creator, commentator, and he joins me today in. studio in New York to do some. old-fashioned MAGA bashing because these. submissive wives of Trump could put on a. master class for the trad wives. movement. >> Mhm, let's get after them. I love some. MAGA bashing. Let's get after. >> let's start with freak show Steven. Miller.

He has a new pitch for Trump's save. America Act. Play the clip. >> A post on X is going viral right now. where a customer, it's a real thing, a. customer at the Olive Garden. was was sending a question to Olive. Garden management asking if they if. their all you can eat summer pass could. be shared with the family members. And. Olive Garden corporate replied and it. said, "No, your card has a barcode that. you that relates solely to you and you.

must present a photo ID with your all. you can eat pasta pass in order to. access all you can eat pasta.". So, we've reached the point in this. society where access to fettuccine at. Olive Garden is vastly more secure than. deciding who is commander-in-chief of. the country. >> What a titty baby. All right, Charlie, go off. >> He looks like an Olive Garden. breadstick. It's a big head. [laughter]. Uh which I was not planning on saying. and then I saw him there and it's like, "That's it. That's who he is.".

Um I mean, just what a [ __ ] joke. Like. I understand the argument he's making. Um I get it. But just to remind folks. again, the argument that he's trying to. make is that we need uh. voter ID or that they should be enacting. voter ID in order to get people. uh or when they have to vote. Um To also remind folks that that is a. tactic that has been used historically. by conservatives, by fascists, by. radicals because it does uh impact voter.

turnout because you have to remember a. lot of Americans do not have IDs. They. just don't. You might, I do, but. predominantly indigenous Americans, disabled Americans, impoverished. Americans, black and brown Americans do. not have ID at the same rate as white. Americans. So by them trying to require. voter ID, what they know they are doing. is trying to drive down voter turnout. among likely Democratic voters. That's. the tactical response. The the human. response is what a [ __ ] loser. >> Yeah. >> Just a loser over and over and over. And. what do you think about Stephen Miller?

>> I just think he operates from a position. of fear. I think he's super soft. Like. he gets triggered so easily. He's. triggered by this lie that he knows is a. lie, that the Heritage Foundation knows. is a lie, that there is massive voter. fraud in the United States of America. And if we go down their logic, let's. look at it like this. The one. presidential race that Trump was in. power and had the ability to impact was. 2020. And he says that was voter fraud. Why? Because he lost by 8 million votes. And.

then 2024, when Joe Biden was in power, he's saying, "Oh no, that election was. on the up and up.". Stephen Miller is, I think, like a Nazi. I think he's a modern-day Nazi. I think. he. enjoys recreational cruelty. I think he. studies Joseph Goebbels. I've seen these. side-by-side videos of him and adopting. adopting mannerisms. The problem with a Stephen Miller. being where he is positioned is Donald.

Trump is intellectually lazy. He doesn't. care about what he leaves the American. people with. He cares to plunder, do his interior design projects, throw. up gold everywhere, and then he's going. to tap out. >> Yeah. >> So he defers a lot of this stuff to. Stephen Miller, who by Trump's own. admission said, "You really wouldn't. want to hear what he really thinks if he. says it out loud, because that's how. vile Stephen Miller, and I I'm not going. to let Katie Miller off the hook. Katie. Miller is as well. And I don't know if.

you saw recently, she's having a stage five meltdown over. Grey's Anatomy. >> I didn't see that. >> Yeah, she's upset because they have a. lesbian character, a gay character, and. multiple characters of different. ethnicities. She did an entire podcast. episode on this. And this is on the foothills of her. doing all of these Instagram videos. holding her newborn baby going, "I feel. so much joy and laughter, and this is. the best thing ever." And then she gets. triggered by Grey's [ __ ] Anatomy. These people get triggered by fictional.

things. >> Yeah. I mean, a few things. You you mentioned Joseph. Goebbels. For folks listening, that was. uh Hitler's lead propagandist uh during. the Holocaust or World War II. Um I tend. to think of the and I don't this maybe. this metaphor is somebody who could poke. holes in it. I tend to think of the. Trump administration as kind of having. like two levels that they're working on. in parallel. At the top is like Trump, and it's the ridiculousness, the stuff. that sometimes we even laugh at where. you're like, "Yes, this is scary, but. it's also so [ __ ] stupid." But to me.

that almost feels like a distraction to. what's going on below it, which is the. Stephen Miller administration, which is. regardless of how stupid and ignorant. and ridiculous and lazy a lot of the. kind of Trump actions are. In parallel, there is like really real. fascistic policies being enacted by. people who know what they're doing. And. that is a big difference also. We've. talked about this many times between. uh this Trump term and his previous term. as president, where the previous one. they did a really poor job of staffing.

kind of like government bureaucrats who. had actual. uh bureaucratic capabilities of knowing. how to get things done. And what they've. done in this administration this time. around is they learned from that. And. now they have people who work under. Stephen Miller, who are professional. government bureaucrats who actually can. get these things done. And it's scary um. because as we again laugh at the. ridiculousness, these policies are being. enacted. They are. being used against leftist, against. people of color, against queer people. And again, Stephen Miller, just as a reminder for.

folks, has a drastic history of white. nationalism. That's on the record that. goes all the way back to when he was in. high school in Santa Monica when he. stood up and gave speech gave speeches. about why he shouldn't be required to. pick up his own trash because there were. Hispanic janitors who were hired to do. that for him. When he was on the school. bus in high school going off about why. we should be torturing people in the. Middle East. We shouldn't be killing. them because killing them means that. they don't remember the torture. If we. torture them, that means they have to. survive with those memories. He was at. Duke where he led a white nationalist.

paper. If people know the name Richard. Spencer, the self-identified neo-Nazi, you might remember him getting punched. in the face on live television a few. years back for being a neo-Nazi. Stephen. Miller ran that publication with Richard. Spencer. So, this idea that he's not. actually a white nationalist, that like. he's putting on face, is not true. He. worked for Michele Bachmann, a extremely. racist Christian nationalist in. Congress. He worked for Jeff Sessions, one of the most racist senators we've. ever had. And that's all, of course, before he even joined the Trump regime. So, this guy has a history of white.

nationalism. He used to recommend books. that were studied by the Third Reich for. Breitbart. He would pitch Breitbart for. them to cover these books, right? And so, no, when we make this comparison. again, like Jen did to Goebbels, to the. Nazi propagandist, that is a very real. comparison and it's a fair comparison. I. think people can't overlook that. >> Yeah, and so, what's happening because. you and I are sitting here saying this. very clearly and we have a right to say.

it. It's our First Amendment right to. say that we see comparisons between. Stephen Miller and an Olive Garden. breadstick. And we also see comparisons. [clears throat] between Stephen Miller. and Nazis. Specifically chief propagandist Joseph. Goebbels. And so they are big they say they claim. they're free speech absolutists but. they're not. These people are scared of. books, drag queens, comedians, Stephen. Colbert, Jimmy Kimmel, lesbians, I can. go on and on and on. White liberal.

women, white liberal men. And so what they're trying to do now is. brand people like you and me and. literally. hundreds of millions of people. left-wing terrorists. And Marco Rubio. has turned out to be the one of the most. submissive. wives Donald Trump has. I mean Melania. Trump is far more rebellious than Marco. Rubio is. And here is Marco Rubio he had.

a left-wing terrorism event. and um. Stephen Miller is at this event and. Stephen Miller. here he is making a fool of himself yet. again. Play the clip. >> Violent antifa demonstrations. You see. any photograph of those who are. assembled. To be blunt, not one of the. people that is demonstrating looks like. a normal person. Not one looks normal. >> Pause. >> They're all deformed. >> That [ __ ]. is saying that some people don't look.

like normal people when he looks like. that. Okay, go on. >> formed in some way in their appearance, in their dress, in their mannerism. Why is that? Why If you look at two. photographs and you see a you know a. normal American street, you see an. antifa protest. Why do the people that. are violently demonstrating, why is. there not one normal looking person. among them? Every one of them. through the course of their life and. their decisions has scarred their body. and their appearance. in many different ways to the point in.

which their outer appearance becomes a. manifestation. >> All right, to quote uh, George W. Bush, that's some weird [ __ ]. You know? >> Yeah. I wish there was a camera facing. the the press corps that was listening. to him cuz I assume their faces I mean, I just don't think people are buying. this anymore. I I I hope I guess that's. the optimistic view of mine is like. again, it goes back to the like the. ridiculous comedy component and then the. serious horrifying component and it's. both things happening at once. On one. hand, it's so absurdist, you can't take.

it seriously in terms of the arguments. he's making and the propaganda he's. using to push this policy. Uh, on the. other hand, he's pushing the policy and. this policy is happening. This is This. was called I think it's is it NPSM-7? >> Yep. >> Um, which, you know, folks should Google. it. It is something that the. administration pushed like over 6 months. ago. I think not a lot of folks have. been talking about Ro Khanna to his. credit is one of the few congressmen. who's really mentioned it, but it's. basically a tool uh, that is allowing. the federal government to go after, um, everyone, but really leftists. The.

point is to go after leftists, communists, socialists, etc. Uh, without. kind of the due process that we would. expect from the federal government. Um, and of course. yes, he looks like an Olive Garden. breadstick. Yes, he looks like a thumb. >> Yeah. >> Um, yes, he looks like a freak show. Um, and yeah, you have to both laugh and. also be horrified and take what he's. saying super seriously at the same time. because he is talking like he's talking. about you. >> Yeah. >> He's talking about independent media. He's talking about leftist creators and.

activists. He's talking about. pro-Palestinian activists. He's talking. about everybody who is utilizing their. free speech and what's happening and. I've said this for a while now is like. the Democrats actually are the party of. free speech. We actually are the party. of the First Amendment and like we need. to remind people of that. We need to. clip these things. We need to explain. these policies to people so they. understand that while they position. themselves as [snorts] the, uh, party of freedom, there's absolutely. nothing free about anything that they. stand for anymore. Not a zip. So.

>> Completely agree. And here's Marco. Rubio. Um Marco Rubio convened 65 delegations. from the around the world to tackle the. issue of left-wing terrorism. This is at. the same event. Play the clip. >> This is a distinctive and unique evil. It has always been driven by a hatred, above all else, a hatred for. civilization itself. It is a revolt of the worst against the. best. A revolt of the weak and the cowardly.

against the strong and the good. It is perpetrated by those who cannot. build, who cannot create, who cannot achieve. great things, and take their revenge upon the world. for their own inadequacy by seeking to. destroy those who can. >> Okay, what strikes me about this is. they're saying cannot build, cannot. create, blah, blah, blah. And these are. the people that are so triggered by the. LGBTQ+ community. One of the most. creative, artistic communities among us.

is the LGBTQ+ community. And this. propaganda, where they're lying, and. this is this lie that. white supremacist lie, that white people. are the job creators, white people gift. everything else else to everybody else. We are the builders. And I think Marco. Rubio is going to be a particular. particularly interesting case study um. for two reasons. Number one, because he. has been an absolute obedient little.

Chihuahua to Donald Trump. I I mean, absolutely obedient. He has done. whatever that man wants. And the second. part that I think it's going to be. interesting to see how history covers. him is that Marco Rubio received 99 and. 0 votes. when he was at his confirmation hearing. Nobody voted against him. And to me, that's a full-blown indictment on the. Democrats because it's it's symp- it's. symptomatic. of how. this happened, how [clears throat] this. fascism incubated, that even and I love.

Bernie Sanders, but that even a Bernie. Sanders didn't say. the fact that Marco Rubio witnessed. January 6th. and uh knows all of the crimes that this. man has committed, knows that he's an. adjudicated rapist, and that Marco Rubio. agreed to go work for him should in and. of itself be disqualifying. I have I. have interviewed um uh. Senator. uh Murphy. And I asked him if he regretted his vote. for Marco Rubio, and he said yes, he. did. So, I'm going to put that on the. record, too, but that's That to me is.

like it shows. They show up to every fight with machine. guns, and we show up with plastic. spoons. >> Yeah. I mean, they also um this again, I. think about the difference between the. first term and this term for Trump, which is one of their strategies, which. to their credit worked. It's why Rubio. got 99 votes is that they're choosing. they chose a spectrum of administration. officials, some of whom. are [ __ ] freakish fascists, and then. some of whom, when compared to those.

freakish fascists, seem Oh, well, that's. okay. [laughter] And that's That was. Marco Rubio's role. Marco Rubio was. placed in there because he didn't seem. as insane as some of the of the other uh. people that they put forward to staff. administration. And so, that to me is. the problem with, again, a lot of the. Democratic leadership, a lot of the. Democratic Party, is like we fall into. these traps of the Republicans, which. are smart traps, and of of the Trump. administration, which is like they. continue to move the goal posts on. everything. And when they continue. driving the goal posts right, I guess,

they drag the Democratic Democratic. Party with them. And where Rubio used to. be a freak fascist, now he seems normal. in comparison to all the others, but now. you have this. Now you have him, as you. said, uh a something Chihuahua, I can't. remember. And then the other thing I'll. say. >> Submissive. >> a submissive Chihuahua. The other thing, too, I'll say is you talked about. creativity. He doesn't mention creativity in that. clip, but actually, if you listen to the. rest of that speech, he does talk about. creativity. He talks about how. communists or communism hates creativity. and free thinking. And again,

A, he's he it's a it's a straw man. argument, right? The second piece though. is fascism hates creativity. Fascism. hates free thinking. Fascism hates art, right? Like that is why they are. targeting arts education and arts. funding. That's why they don't want. independent media because creativity. breeds authenticity, it breeds. honest dialogue and conversation and. truth. And that is the most dangerous. thing to Marco Rubio. That is the most. dangerous thing to Donald Trump. Just.

remember that. If you see creativity, if. you see art, know that that is the that. is the antithesis to fascism and we. should all be supporting that cuz that. is not what they want. So, stop letting. these [ __ ] just lie to us over. and over and over. >> Completely agree. All right, let's. J.D. Vance is getting ripped and which. is really fun to beat up on J.D. Vance. I mean, he's just the most unlikable. person. [clears throat]. >> I was like, "I haven't seen you in a. >> Oh god, no. No, he's not getting ripped. in that way. He's getting ridiculed, Charlie. So, conservative podcaster Tim. Dillon blast J.D. Vance over his.

appearance on Joe Rogan and his comments. about the Epstein files. Let's take a. listen. >> Have to be one of the stupidest people. in the world to fall for this [ __ ] at. this point. This is you are pedaling the dumbest, most. like. By the way, I hate to use this word, but. cringe. It's literally cringe. You watch this. and you go, "I feel. so disgusted.

by the fact that they think people are. still going to believe this shit.". Well, it's the deepest it's. >> What do you think? >> I I don't think saying I told you so is. like the most helpful political tool, [laughter]. but it's just it's so infuriating seeing. this [ __ ] where it's like on one hand. great. Like I'm very happy that Dylan.

and like these other podcast people. bros, whatever are like coming around. On the other hand it's like. no [ __ ] Like you it's you're describing. yourself. Like you are one of the people. who got us here and I get it like you. were tricked and used etc. But many of. us. >> Were they tricked? >> I mean I don't know. >> Really were they tricked or are they. economic Darwinist who ride the survival. of the dollar and their income and they. saw that Trump was this form of.

masculinity was kind of popular. especially against the black woman and. especially against sleepy Joe and they. wrote it because it's hard for me to buy. that Andrew Schultz and Joe Rogan and. this guy of course they knew. They all. saw January 6th. They all saw what we. saw. >> Yeah. >> And so I think right now what they're. doing is they're jumping off the Trump. train early because number one, you. know, he's going to biology is a. defeated. Is this early? No for them. before the term is up. No, it's not.

early but before the term is up because. they want to this is why Tucker's jumped. off. This is why Marjorie Taylor Green's. jumped off. They want to position. themselves. They see the ship is sinking. and so they're like oh let's jump off. right now whereas Laura Loomer Bannon. they're going to ride that [ __ ]. all the way down to the bottom of the. sea. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I mean I I. Yeah and and. so much of it too is like maybe I don't. know if there's any reasoning to this or. if it's just like. my own bias but like I need these people.

to acknowledge their their role in this, right? Like again like at the same thing. with Theo Vaughn, Rogan, Schultz, all. the people that you mentioned. I. appreciate that they are moving in the. right direction. I appreciate that. they're jumping ship. Good. Like, too. late, but fine. But, I need you like people need you to. acknowledge the role you played in this, whether you were used, whether you're. being lazy, whether you were an. opportunist, like whatever the reasoning. is. It's just very hard, I think, for. any of us or anybody to take you. seriously when you were like.

unable to hold up a mirror to yourself. and acknowledge your responsibility in. this. Um, and, you know, I think a lot about about. like we've talked about this before of. in this room, we're going to be okay for. the most part, I think, minus in case we. unless we get arrested by Marco Rubio or. something. But, like. what Tim Dillon, Theo Theo Von, Andrew Schulz, Joe Rogan, regardless of if they're jumping ship, what they need to remember, and what. folks need to remember, is like because.

of the decisions they made to support or. amplify Trump and his [ __ ] regime, human bodies have suffered. People have. died. Children are going parentless. Um, legal immigrants are being killed in the. street. And like, while it's not. individually their responsibility, they. absolutely played a role in that. And. it's not just like politics sometimes. can be fun and games. Like, politics. though is also very tangible. It's very. real. There are downstream impacts on. human bodies and human suffering. And.

like, I need these people to acknowledge. that they played a role in that. I need. them to. say, "Fuck, the decisions I made. absolutely helped get us here, and I. apologize to my audience or whatever.". But, until they do that, it's very hard. for me to take this kind of like. flip-flopping seriously. >> I completely agree with you. There needs. to be an atonement. There needs to be a. purge of, you know, I facilitated and. incubated this moment that contributed. contributed to this. I mean, Trump's. support by new media, earned media, that.

he was able to go on all of these. podcast shows and hardly get any. pushback and just explain the weave and. all of this stuff. They really enabled a. a lot of of this stuff and I agree with. you. Like now you're like, oh, he said no new wars and I thought he. meant it. It's like. you really believed him? Like you really. think this person was a truth-teller and. not a liar? Like you really believed. that? It's just such a either an own. that they're stupid, which is possible,

but I don't think they are. >> Yeah. >> I think they're clever and I think that. they are diabolical with their. cleverness and that's why I think. they've jumped off the Trump train. But. speaking of clever without being. diabolical, our mayor, Zohran Mamdani, was asked in a New York Times interview. what will happen if Netanyahu comes to. New York City. Play the clip. >> warrant. What will happen if he comes in. September? >> Okay, I believe that Prime Minister. Netanyahu belongs in The Hague. He's a.

war criminal who has been charged by the. International Criminal Court. And. what you will find is that is an opinion. that is held by many purely because of. what his actions have wrought over these. last many years. I've also said that I. will follow the laws that we have here. in New York City. because I believe that. there's an importance in following the. law as a leader who presides over our. city and that's something that I plan to. do.

>> People can disagree. morally or ideologically, I suppose, with what he's saying, maybe, but he's. speaking objective truth. Like. >> Right. >> Benjamin Netanyahu is a is a convicted. criminal. Um. and. to me. what Zohran says there. is brilliant and amazing, but it's also. just like it's showing the purity of his. politics, which is like he said that. exact same thing on the trail. This. isn't new.

Uh he's not changing his tone, he's not. changing his message. And reminder to. folks who are scared about what he's. saying there, this is why he won. That same mindset, that same idea, that. same vision of the world, that same. vision of equity and fairness and. following the law and holding war. criminals accountable and genociders. accountable, like that is why people. like him. That is in part why people. voted for him. So, there's going to be a. bunch of neoliberals and Bill Maher and. whoever and conservatives who are going. to say this is [ __ ] crazy, he doesn't. have the power to do this, but a. reminder like New York voters.

voted for him almost exactly because of. this. Not that they everybody was voting. on the issue of Israel, but this idea. that he's exceptionally clear in his. worldview, he's exceptionally clear in. his politics, he's exceptionally clear. with his plans, and he's not deviating. from that. And so, like I applaud him. for sticking to it. I do. >> I do, too. I think that this is we need. more of that. >> Yeah. >> in the Democratic Party. We need for the. Democrats to fight and say no, Benjamin. Netanyahu is a war criminal, he deserves. to be in The Hague, he should be in The. Hague, and I intend to follow the law. and to get him there.

>> Yeah. >> And this is not the only reason why this. is such a a big issue is because the. Israel issue is used to manipulate all. of us in so many different ways all of. the time within the Democratic Party, um, within, you know, from right to. left, etc. I don't think there's a bigger argument. for how corrupt Benjamin Netanyahu is. Let's say that we didn't have all of the. evidence and the multiple, I think it's. we're up to 30 different groups that. have said yes, it was a genocide. Set.

Take all of that and set it aside. If Benjamin Netanyahu oversees. this beautiful bright light of a. democracy. in the Middle East, if what they say is. true, why did they prefer Donald Trump to win. over Kamala Harris? >> Mhm. >> A man who tried to overturn a free and. fair election, who refused to go. participate in the peaceful transfer of. power, instead packed his toys and left. like a [ __ ]. >> And they supported Donald Trump because.

Donald Trump doesn't give a [ __ ] how. many people they kill. He doesn't care. He simply doesn't care. about the loss of human life. And that's. telling because Biden allowed. Netanyahu to do everything he did up. until Trump. And that to me says, "Oh, that wasn't far enough." They wanted. Iran. They want to Balkanize Iran. They. want to go further. They want to enact. the greater Israel project. So they need. the most. stupid. selfish narcissistic [ __ ] Trojan.

horse imaginable. And that's why they. picked Donald Trump because it's a lie. that they're a democracy. >> It is. And I'll say one other thing. quickly to bring it back to Zoran. is like. the issue of the genocide in Gaza on. behalf of the Israeli government, on. behalf of Netanyahu, and the support of. the US government. it is it is a kitchen table issue. And. this is why I think Zoran is actually. the perfect person to be talking about.

it like this because. Americans are clear. Democrats and. Republicans are clear. People aren't stupid. We see the US. government sending billions of dollars. overseas to help support this genocide. while also then being told that we don't. have the money to pay for universal. health care or universal pre-K or child. care or school meals or lunches, whatever. And like. it is then it is a kitchen table issue. Like what what the US government is. saying, what Trump is saying, what. Israel is saying is this is worth. American resources, us doing this,

killing these mothers and children and. families overseas, but your needs. uh to feed your children, to maybe be. able to go to Disneyland once every 3. years, to to to if you get cancer that. you're not going to go bankrupt for the. rest of your life. That funding this this war abroad, this. genocide abroad is more valuable and. important than that. And as all. Americans I think could agree, that's. not true. We see right through that. So. actually I feel like when Zoran talks. about this, he's the perfect person to. be talking about this because he. understands that he's the one of the. only politicians in the US who has.

successfully run on a real affordability. agenda, which absolutely is related to. us sending resources overseas. >> You're exactly right. Okay. And then we. have our the leader of our opposition. party, Hakeem Jeffries. >> Power. Power to the people. >> He confronts Bernie. um about endorsing primary opponents. Pop this up. So CNN is reporting Hakeem Jeffries. confronted Senator Bernie Sanders. against meddling in House primaries,

particularly one involving a black. Democrat. He seemed not to care, Representative Greg Meeks of New York, a. Jeffries ally who was also on the call, said of Sanders, recalling the pre-. previously unreported phone call. I can. imagine you have a lot to say about. this, Zoran. >> Yeah. I mean, first and this isn't to. justify. uh. Hakeem's call. I think like something. important for people to understand. generally about when we talk about uh. the anger that a lot of like um. establishment Democrats feel around the.

you know, Bernie Sanders supporting. primary challengers or Zoran supporting. primary challengers or David Hogg. supporting primary challengers is that. there is something called an incum-. incumbency advantage, right? which is. like beyond just the personal politics. that people feel. It is true that. historically the precedent is that when. you have an incumbent in office, that. the odds are higher that they can win in. a general. So like there is political. reasoning that somebody might want the. incumbent to be running in the in the. primary or in the general. However, that's not what this feels like to me.

What this feels like is a. um. a fear of a leftist movement, uh a fear. of challengers to the establishment, to. uh people like Bernie, like AOC, like. Zoran, like all of our amazing. candidates that just won uh the. DSA-backed candidates in New York, that. there is a a a a chapter that there's a. the page is turning. And Hakeem. Jeffries, um, is he is associated with the. previous chapter. He is associated with. Chuck Schumer, who we've talked many. times about, and that era of politics.

And so, this is a threat to him, uh, to his elected position, but also to. his theory of politics generally, as. well. Um, the more young, the more. progressive, the more leftist candidates. that come into the fold, uh, the more. likely it is that he's going to. very soon. Um, so it's a threat to him, and I think it's very selfish for him to. go after these folks like this. I don't. know. What do you think? >> I think that I think we reported last. week that, uh, Hakeem Jeffries received. a huge, AIPAC,

uh, check. And he didn't whip the votes. to go vote for Thomas Massie's, uh, amendment not to bill not to send. military aid to Israel any longer. And, um, even Nancy Pelosi voted with Thomas. Massie, which was a huge, huge, huge. message that she's sending. Somebody who. has been a staunch ally, but even she. and her political instincts sees that. one of her last votes on this needed to.

be different from all of her votes. prior. And she has, call her what you. will, say whatever you want to about. Nancy Pelosi, she has incredible. political instincts. I mean, really, really, really top-notch political. instincts. Unfortunately, Hakeem doesn't. share those. And I think that instead of. calling to shame or confront Bernie. Sanders, he should be calling with. how are we going to build a bigger tent. here? What can we do here? Because your. side of the party is really getting.

momentum, and I do have some candidates. that I've endorsed, you've endorsed. against them, but I we have got to work. together. We are in the throes of a. fascist takeover. We've got to get get. majority, and I think that he would find. that Bernie Sanders has never had to. change his position. >> Right. >> Bernie Sanders and Zoran and people that. are incorruptible, that value human. beings over profit, that value human. beings over political donations, they. don't have to change their positioning. And Hakeem and Chuck Schumer and Cory.

Booker and Kirsten Gillibrand, these. politicians, you see that they service. their corporate donors. >> Mhm. >> That service the Republicans more than. they do them, and they leave us sitting. there. So, I think that, you know, I. think Hakeem, if we win, he'll be the. speaker. I. I deep down I kind of want this revolt, like a progressive revolt, and then. them to unseat him and put like somebody.

like Ro Khanna as Speaker of the House, and for us to get serious because. I think that. politicians like Hakeem start out. earnestly, and then money breaks people. Donations break people. And when you. take money. from. the AIPAC organization, and you see what. that money does, it breaks you. And so, then you're it creates a. a numbness that he's able to not feel. what he's doing. And now he's clinging.

to power, and I just think it's just. kind of disqualifying right now to have. politicians that do that, which brings. me to John Fetterman. And uh he. thinks that he's threatening to leave. the Democratic Party because of Hasan. [ __ ] and I just want to remind. everybody that Hasan [ __ ] is not a. Democrat. Play the clip. >> I believe that the Democratic Party's. going to become more anti-Israel. As. long as we're going to continue to do. that, you make that official, and you.

make that part of our platform, that's. my red line in the Democratic Party. >> They campaign with garbage like Hasan. [ __ ] that's pro-Hamas. >> Okay, you're Jewish and um yeah, and you. uh. are a part of a group that is very. underreported upon. And it it is. especially in New York, you see it a. lot. It it's the Jewish movement of. people that oppose.

the state of Israel's provocations and. genocide, oppose Benjamin Netanyahu and. there's. a lot. There's a huge resistance. And. when you hear the constant conflation. of the Democrats have become anti-Israel. Israel and he sees that as. anti-Semitic. Will you please speak to that because. this is something that is just going to. get louder and louder and louder as the. midterms approach? >> Yeah, I mean you said it. uh perfectly. I'm Jewish. Um.

I strongly believe that the most. valuable and important voices right now. and for the last 3 years, unfortunately, um are American Jews, are anti-Zionist. American Jews or liberal Zionists like. Brad Lander um or Jews who just oppose. what's going on uh in Gaza and don't. have a a a label for themselves but but. know what they're saying is disgusting. and horrendous and. um you know, I feel. disgusted and anger that over the last 3.

years. um. it feels like you know, my name, my. family is being used and leveraged to. justify a genocide and. that's [ __ ] Like that is not what. Judaism was to me, it's not what it is. to me, it's not how I was raised. Judaism in my family was first and. foremost absolutely. um. it meant standing up to oppression, it. meant learning from our history and. standing up against fascism, standing up.

against um. broken governments that are taking. advantage of disadvantaged communities, standing up against imperialism. Um and. so to me it is the most Jewish thing you. can do to speak out against what's going. on in Gaza. And to be very clear to. people that there is that conflating. Israel with Judaism not only is. incorrect, but actually helps drive up. the rates of anti-Semitism. Right? As. people um people It is a complicated. issue. It is complicated, but people. like John Fetterman and even on.

Democrats, Fetterman, Dan Goldman I. think has an miraculous job of actually. helping drive anti-Semitism up by saying. that anybody who calls out the actions. of the Israeli government um by voting. to censure Rashida Tlaib, the only. Palestinian uh representative in. Congress, that those people are somehow. anti-Semitic. And it's not true. And it. only does more damage. And the other. thing I will say to the Fetterman clip. is that. it is not the DNC making uh or standing. up against Israelis' actions. It's like.

It's not the DNC making that a party. platform. It's the voters. Like It's. Democratic voters who are objectively. clear. The polling is completely clear. Americans now have a better have a a. more American Jews have a more positive. feeling towards Zo Aron than they do. towards Benjamin Netanyahu. So like this. isn't some like deep state Democratic. Party Chuck Schumer thing or or uh Ken. Martin thing where they're like trying. to change the the the the policy. positions of the DNC. This is American.

voters. And politics follows voters. And. so for I'm all about being a big tent. party. I think it's necessary as you. just said earlier. But like what. Fetterman is saying is that he refuses. to listen to what Americans want. He. refuses to listen what his own. constituents want. And so therefore. go. You know what? Get out of the. Democratic Party. I don't care. Like you. have been a failure. You've been a. disappointment. Get out of here as far as I'm concerned. >> I completely agree. He needs to hit the. brakes. Charlie, I love having you. Thank you for coming on. Thank you for.

spending the Saturday with me. >> Thank you for having me.