🚨 MAGA’S WORST NIGHTMARE Exposes Trump's LIES! He's TRIGGERED!

All right, to the Fox News producers, to. the Newsmax producers, to Breitbart, to. Libs of TikTok, I would like to issue a. trigger warning. regarding my next guest. He is bisexual. And he was raised by five, one, two, three, four, five gay. He was raised in the crime-ridden, hellscape, socialist, Mom Donastan, Brooklyn, woke, sharia out the wazoo. He.

is also the host of Recess Therapy, Celebrity Substitute, the new YouTube. hit sensation, Outside Tonight, and the. author of a new book called How to Grow. Up Without Becoming a Grown-Up that. comes out this August 4th. Please. welcome to I've Had It Weekend, Julian. Shapiro Barnum. Ju. >> That was the best intro I've ever. gotten. >> Well, you know, these Fox producers. watch me. >> Yeah. >> all the time, and so I had to issue a. trigger warning because you are what.

they warn everybody about. >> So, when I was a So, yes, this is true. I have five gay parents. I was raised by. three moms and two dads, and like when I. was, you know, around high school, we. started to joke that like I was a. conservative's worst nightmare. Raised. by And even now, like raised by big gay. family, and I and I work with kids. >> Right. >> I know. >> If you could have only shown up with. like blue hair. >> I know. I should lean in, >> like a bunch of like pins. >> Yes. >> They're they're really they're really. >> about my pronouns more.

>> I'm going to What are your pronouns? >> You know, I'm going to disappoint. He/him. >> And mine are she/her. >> Uh-huh. Look at us, sis. >> Let me ask you Let me ask Let me ask you. a question. >> Please do. >> We were talking about this on our other. podcast the other day. An AI actress or actor. >> Sure. >> I do not think an AI character should. get human pronouns. I think an AI. character Yes, isn't it it's? >> Well, I don't even look Let's just Let's. >> I don't. >> we should humanize the robots. >> I don't want to even get that far with. it. I don't want the I look I I have a.

BFA in acting. And I and it wasn't fun to get. I don't think we should even entertain. the AI actor thing. >> I agree. >> I I I think it's boring. >> Yeah. >> I think it's hard to look at. And I. agree. Let's not give them pronouns. >> Yes. >> Unless they ask for it. >> No. >> No. >> I don't think we should be subservient. to these robots. But I want to dive into. the five gay parents. Let's do it. Okay, let's do roll call. >> Mhm. >> Start. >> want the story?

>> I want the whole story. It's. fascinating. >> So, here's how it happened. >> Okay. >> So, my moms, Nicole and Lauren, they met. in law school and they were a couple. >> Yeah. >> A lesbian couple no less. >> Okay. >> And they wanted to have a baby. >> Okay. >> And so they asked their friends, my. dads, a gay couple, Michael and Lauren, if they would be the sperm donor to each. of them. And so they had me and my brother and. sister, Allison and Shay. And then when I was two, my moms broke. up. And they met other women.

And they raised Uh so they So when I was. a kid, there were six parents. But there. was an amicable uncoupling and there's. really five. But so from like, you know, two years old to 11 years old, I was raised in Park Slope by six gay. parents, me and my brother and sister. >> Okay. >> Um brother and sister gay also. >> Really? And they're all siblings. Their. genetics are strong, right? >> You can't get rid of it. >> Yeah. >> But yeah. >> Okay, so lots of questions. So, the mom. What were the moms' names? >> Nicole, Sophia, and Lauren. Dad, Lauren.

also. >> Sophia, Lauren. >> Exactly. >> Okay. Nicole, Sophia, and Lauren. So, when they approached the gay male. couple, >> Mhm. >> how do you decide who gets whose sperm? I mean, that's [clears throat] like. fascinating to me. >> I You know, I always. like to imagine what that conversation. was like. I've asked them about it. And I you know. I I don't 100% know what happened but I. like to imagine that they like took them. out to a nice dinner and they were like. hey you know so like also we'd like love.

love to have your sperm and also the. unagi roll. but I think I think it was actually a. multi-year conversation. and my one dad Michael was the sperm. donor to both of them both my moms so my. brother and sister have the same dad and. we were all raised as siblings together. >> Okay when you say you were all raised. together I picture like this hippy gay. commune where they're basket weaving and. doing things like that what does that. mean what. >> it means so we had uh three households.

each couple had their own house you know. as couples often do. >> to each other. >> yeah all Cobble Hill and then two in. Park Slope. until I was 11 I would actually go. between three houses every week which I. think probably was a lot. I think it felt normal at the time but. then I moved to Philadelphia when I was. 11 and I think it was a little bit it. was nice to take a step back and and. kind of settle down but my my siblings. and I would do family week activities as. a as the whole family and my my parents. just did like put so much effort into.

feeling like a cohesive family unit and. I think you know. at this point in my life I've met maybe. one to three other people other people. my age who have had similar family. structures like there really aren't that. many. kids out there who have this but the the. kind of unifying thread there is like. I think my moms felt like the odds were. stacked against them like they were. trying this family experiment and I. think it felt so important to succeed.

>> and empowering I bet. >> exactly from like a personal level from. like the world was against them level. and I think they just needed to show. that a family like this could work and. it did. >> okay and then when the moms were. pregnant were they pregnant at same time. >> no my my siblings are 2 years younger. than me. >> Okay. >> So, were they pregnant at the same time. then? >> Uh. Oh, they're twins. So, it was me and. then 2 years later my other mom got. pregnant. Yeah. >> Got you. Okay, so what is the dad's name. that's the sperm donor?

>> Michael. >> Michael can really shoot it, huh? >> Yeah, he was. he was moving he was moving and. grooving. >> Yeah, all right, way to go. Shout out to. the. >> Shout out Michael. Shout out dad. [laughter]. >> Shout out to those strong swimmers. Okay, so you have. >> That's the most I've ever talked about. my family or but what last. >> I love it. >> It's amazing. Last thing I'll say about. it is like, you know, I my family has been something that like. has defined my life. It's something that. like. I've always just been unbelievably proud.

of and like excited about because I. think I I know it's unique, but like. people are always like, "What was it. like? What was it like?" It just is my. normal. >> Right. >> Like I don't have any frame of reference. for what it's like to have straight. parents or two parents. Um and I think. that's like. maybe my big takeaway from it is like I. think people from the outside in are. always kind of like, "Man, that's so. interesting." But it like. wasn't some fantastical crazy thing. Like it was you know, like I do have. five parents.

It's just a lot of phone calls. >> Right. >> It's just a lot of It isn't crazy, you. know? >> more people to love you. And I've often. thought that. gay people. it's really intentional family planning. >> 100%. >> Gay people really want to have these. children. This isn't a drunken. one-night-stand and you're like, "Oh, [ __ ] I'm broke. I'm a trainwreck. I. just did a bunch of blow." Right, like. this is a very intentional.

uh parenting. And when you hear MAGA. >> Mhm. >> speak about traditional families because. I always say that is just coded bigotry. >> 100%. try. >> make families like yours feel less than. and to diminish you, to diminish your. mothers, to diminish your fathers and. say that you are not acceptable. And how. do you feel when you hear this talk and. this rise of all of these quote-unquote. traditional family values, especially. juxtaposing that when you look at Trump.

who has um. three baby mamas, five kids, banging. porn stars, Elon Musk God only knows how. many I mean that deadbeat. So how do you. how do you feel and how do your moms and. dads feel when they hear that? >> So like a huge part of actually talk. about it in my book there's a whole. chapter about this but like a huge part. of my childhood was going to like. marriage equality protests and like was. marching and like my moms took me and my. siblings to Washington. We went to city.

hall. Like we. protested as children. for my parents to have the right to get. married and for the right for our. parents to be recognized. Like even. this is something that we're still. dealing with but like you can only have. two legal parents. I can only have two. legal guardians. So like my dad had to. give up his legal guardianship of me so. that my other mom could adopt me. But. like that's not the case. That's not the. reality of my family. Um. so like I my entire life has been.

steeped in this like fight for the. mainstream to recognize my family as a. family. >> Yeah. >> And like so on one hand like this is. nothing new. Like it's just been there. the whole time. There's this like. picture that at times can make me cry to. look at of my mom. It was like in the in the New York Times. or something. It's I'm like five and my. mom has me on her shoulder. and she's like like yelling and my. t-shirt says bad law on it and it was. just like. from such a young age.

we we were just like fighting for very. basic rights for her. And I just it. makes me emotional because I'm sure it. was so. comforting to have a kid like love her. that much. I don't know, like I'm sure. that was really comforting. But anyway, like it's just been the norm and I'm. sure it's going to be the norm for the. rest of my life, but like. it just does I like can't even. comprehend it. That that's kind of my. It's like that's I'm sure that's how so. much of this feels where it's like.

we look at the right calling for basic. human rights to be stripped and like I. just can't It just feels like a lack of. understanding of humanity. Like I don't. have anything nuanced to say. It just. doesn't make sense to me. >> Right. >> It just feel they don't know they It's. it's complete bigotry. >> It's complete bigotry and I think that. the conservative male is a very scared. person. These people are scared of. books, libraries, drag queens, comedians, late-night talk show.

>> Everything, yeah. >> So, they've gone after, as you know, Stephen Colbert who's been sacrificed. for the ego and for the fears of these. submissive men. I call all of the sycophants that circle. the president the submissive wives. because they could put on a master class. for the tradwives with what how they. don't stand up for anything. And with. late night being such a political thing. right now, Jimmy Kimmel, Stephen. Colbert, and Trump gets his feelings.

hurt very, very easily by late-night. comedians that joke about presidents. And that's a part of the American. experience. All late-night hosts do. this. They dabble into politics, they. make you giggle. Both sides, you know, are are the joke could be on both. So, in this. climate, you have started a new late-night show. called Outside Tonight. And for my. listeners, it's on YouTube. And. he films all over New York in a.

different location. And I think this is. a really brave moment to embark on late. night because it's not just late night. right now. This really is a much bigger. thing because this regime is attacking. comedy, particularly late night. television. So tell me why you wanted to. do this and then also is that voice of. the regime always kind of monitoring. everything that we're all doing. I'm. sure. Hi Fox. Um.

>> Hi. >> 5G parents. Sorry. >> [laughter]. >> But tell me about it. Tell Tell my. viewers about Outside Tonight. >> Yeah. Oh my god, I have so much to say. and I. Yes, let me let me synthesize my. thoughts. But Okay, so basically like. Outside Tonight is a project that I. started um in 2020, kind of that summer. during BLM. Uh I come My background is. in comedy. Uh. I come from theater and that summer I.

was looking for a way to just like. connect with people. I felt like it was. COVID, everyone was protesting. I felt. like so isolated and like scared and. alone. And so I put a desk and some. chairs on the street one night and. put on a show called How Are You Doing. Right Now? Not the smartest name, but. anyone could sit and I would just go, "How are you doing right now?" And like. that was the show. But it like. everyone was opening up to me and we. were talking about politics, we were. talking about like humanity. And I got a.

bunch of my friends involved and we. filmed four of those episodes and I was. like, "This is the best thing I've ever. done." I wasn't good at it, but it made. me so happy. I went back to college. I did my senior. of college. I almost didn't cuz I like. doing the show so much. Then I started interviewing kids. And that turned into my career. >> Okay. >> But the whole time I was like, "I need. to do this outdoor late night show.". Not because I was like, "I need to save. late night." or because of any, you. know, delusions of grandeur, just. because at its core sitting outside and.

talking to people. spoke to me in such a deep way. Like was. it it resonated. Then like 2 years ago. I was like, "Oh, I think I can do this. now. I think my career is in a place. where I have the resources to like. enlist the people I need to help me make. this.". And now we're doing it. The whole idea. behind it is like. I wanted to do away with the studio. model, which clearly is all about. control and has become like.

a way to censor. >> Mhm. >> Uh I wanted to do away with the studio. itself, which. to me is about democratizing a medium. that has always been uh. very inaccessible to the public. You. know, late night as a genre was all about. bringing the entertainment industry into. your living room. Like that's why it was. created. But like we don't need that anymore. Like the entertainment industry is. everywhere. You can get it all the time. >> Yeah. >> So I wanted to create a show that like. anyone just walking down the street, if. you hear music, if you hear people.

talking, you can walk up and get the. show. And not just that, it it it's. celebrities, but also just like everyday. people being on the show. It was this I was like, "How can we. create like a democratized version of. late night?". >> Cool. >> I think that's what's more interesting. right now. >> Yeah. >> Instead of this like top-down. uh. this is what's happening in culture. It's like let's create culture. Let's. like let's show. my favorite pieces of culture, my. favorite people in comedy and music. So.

it was just like a it was a reframing. Instead of like this is what's happening. in the entertainment industry, it was. like this is happening in my. corner of the entertainment industry. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> I loved the one that I watched you did a. gay dog. >> Oh, yeah. >> competition. [laughter]. And listener, the. the owners brought their dogs out and. they made the case like as to. if dogs were gay and they voted on the. dogs gayness. And I mean that kind of. stuff is just so fun. I loved it. >> But but like to that point, like. I think there are people who are talking.

about the state of politics or like. I say state of industry, that's not what. I meant to say. But there are there are. people who comment on politics in late. night. so well. Like that is a genre that is a. side of late night and there are people. doing who are doing it better than I. could. >> Mhm. >> Another part of late night is the like. variety comedy show. >> Right. >> My issue is that it's either super. political or completely apolitical. I. feel like the comedic side of late night.

used to have a clear political voice to. it but has has has lost that. I think. because it's either you're like. completely far left or far right or. you're appeasing to everybody. You're. completely down the middle. I was like, how can we create an alt comedy lefty. late night show? Like Outside Tonight is. super queer. It has like a very clear. belief to it. We're not like spoofing. the news, talking about the news but. like the bodies we put on the show, the.

space we're taking up with the show, like you know what we believe and I. think that is powerful in its own right. >> Don't you think Julian that sometimes a. way to be political is to normalize the. culture around queerness. >> 100%. >> and to platform queer voices and say, you know, look, we're happy. We are. normal functioning people regardless of. what you hear on Fox News, regardless of. what you hear on your Instagram or.

TikTok feed. There's a whole world out here that. exists and you can either tune in. If if we terrify you, then you don't. have to watch it cuz as I mentioned, and. this has been scientifically proven, we're conservatives are are very. fear-based people. So somebody like you. scares them very much. But, I think that that is a more. important part of what we have to do in. this era is normalize the culture of. acceptance and not just acceptance, but. radical acceptance. Really radically.

accepting people where they are, unless. you're a Trumper. No acceptance. >> I think Yeah, I think it's just. important to show like. joy and fun and that in itself is a. radical act, especially at a time like. now. >> I know. >> Genuinely. >> I know. >> Um can can I shout Can I do a major. shout out? Your son, Roman, worked in the art. department on Outside tonight and. went. be above and beyond. He he.

brought his A game. He showed up and. worked so hard. We we were filming. on the street, in the sun. We filmed. nine episodes in a month and he was like. MVP. Everyone loved working with him. He. was so wonderful. He talked a lot about. how he had never worked on a set before. and you would never have been able to. tell. He like really. just was such a highlight and we loved. working with him and everyone said he. looks like me, which was very funny.

Everyone would call him little Julian. >> That's what he said. >> very funny. >> He said that sometimes when they were. setting up the, you know, camera angles, they'd say, "Roman, go through the. Julian because y'all are the same.". >> he just was like such a joy to work with. and he's so professional and I think. just will add to any place he is and you. should hire him if you're watching. >> [laughter]. >> That You know, thank you for saying. that. He had the best summer. He loved. working with you. >> It was hard work. >> I Yes, it's hard work and I think that,

you know, workplaces, whatever. the person at the top, whatever they set. as the mood, it that trickles down and. so he had the best experience. He had so. much fun. Thank you for having him on. the mama. Okay. I want my audience to. get to know you more. The people who. know you know you, but as we all know. there are all these little corners of. the internet and I have my little corner. here. And you have a show that went. completely viral called recess therapy. and it's massive massive on social media. and I want to play my audience a clip of.

you interviewing interviewing Rihanna. Let's play the clip. >> Miles, what's like the best way to make. a new friend? >> I actually just wander around and until. somebody wants to play with me. >> Really? Oh, cuz you know you're the. prize. >> Well, I don't really know how to do it, but I wander around. That's just what I. do. >> Have you ever lied before, Miles? >> Like a few times. >> Rana, have you ever lied? >> Never.

>> Not once, right? >> Only maybe white lies. >> Don't lie anymore. >> It's all. >> [laughter]. >> I So, the. that is a huge huge hit and I just want. to ask you, do you like kids? >> I love working with kids so much. I I. genuinely do. I I. >> All kids? >> All kids. It's It's only parents that I. ever have issues with. >> See, I'm more of case-to-case basis with. kids, yeah. >> No, I. >> you do when you have an [ __ ] kid? >> I don't work with them again. >> [laughter]. >> No, I really, you know, it's it's funny.

like with with recess therapy, it's like. 5 to 10-minute interviews. With my other show celebrity substitute, which is where I go into We work with. the Department of Education. We go into. a different school every episode and we. have a celebrity come teach for the day. I don't meet those kids until the. morning and that's a real toss-up cuz. it's like I show up at 8:00 a.m. and I. meet 12 kids and I like I'm going to. then be with them for like 5 hours and. that's always like a personality Oh, yeah. toss-up. But it's like.

I have to love them for them to love me. >> Of course. >> And so it is this like labor of love and. I feel like whenever I meet them, it's. less about like me liking them and more. about me like desperately trying to get. them to like me. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. So Zoran deployed your skills. And. this is one of my favorite. So earlier. this year you were at a press conference. where the mayor unveiled his child care. plan alongside toddlers. And you were. there as a member of the press and you.

asked very important questions to these. little New Yorkers. Let's play this. clip. >> My favorite cartoon animal is a shark. >> Is a shark? That's honestly such a good. one. >> My favorite [clears throat] animal. is a goat. >> Oh, and a goat. Thank you all for your. answers. >> And and my favorite one is a gold snake. that can move and has gold eyes and it. had and it has a long tail, a super. super duper tail and it can snap cars.

and crash the cars and they'll get. >> [laughter]. [crying]. >> So just to make sure I'm getting all. that, it's a golden snake with gold. eyes, super long, can crash cars and get. fired. >> Yeah, and they and they get fired. >> Okay, thank you for your answers. >> [laughter]. >> That was insane. >> That is so cool. >> I I've you know. obsessed with our mayor. >> Oh my god. >> incredible. >> I just I was just listening to his um.

interview with the daily and he's just. like so well spoken. Anyway, I've worked. with him a bunch of times. I've had AOC. on my show. Like I love talking with. kids and politicians about the state of. the world. I think they offer such. simplified solutions to really. complicated issues. I think they're able. to like see through [ __ ] really. easily. Like to them these like really. partisan issues that like have been over. thought and like uh.

over complicated. Um. kids just see right into the humanity of. it and they don't they don't see all the. [ __ ] Like they're just able to be. like, "No, people should have this. because they deserve this." Um so I've. had a lot of. I've having like Zoran and AOC on. and Brad Lander like it's brought me so. much joy. having those conversations with kids. But that was such a crazy moment because. it was a real press conference and they. brought these kids out. and I'd never been to a press conference. before and I was like, "Oh my god, am I.

ruining this whole thing?" But it was so. cute. >> No, [laughter] it was so cute and I. think it's he's done such a good job um. governing. I think when he brings out. these kids and he shows you this is. something we want governor the. government to provide universal pre-K. and this is what these kids look like. that live in the city. You know, it's. really difficult for most people. Now. granted there's cultists in this country. that would go, "Those kids and their.

parents are lazy.". But the majority the overwhelming. majority of us see that and think, "Yes, their parents work hard. They work. >> They should not have to pay for. >> childcare. >> But for high-quality. childcare. Like. I think what he does such a good job of. time and time again is just like. kind of what I was saying the kids do is. like not making these basic things. issues. Like. making things obvious and like of course. buses should be fast and free. Of course.

people shouldn't pay more for rent. Like. of course there should be free. childcare. Like they're just so. matter-of-fact. But I think having the. kids there was such like a brilliant way. of illustrating that. He also makes it. fun. >> He's yes. Yeah, he makes it fun. He's an. A plus. What do your moms think of. Zoran? >> They love him. They they they don't they. live in New Jersey but they're very. charmed by him. >> Yeah. >> My mom when we had AOC on the show, my. mom never comes to the shoots. Okay. But. she was like I.

you have to let me come. She was like, I. I just have to meet her. And my mom came. to the shoot and she stood. like far away and just watched and at. the end she went up and she shook her. hand and it was like a really big deal. >> She's so proud. >> She's so proud. >> It's incredible. You know, I always say. that. I know a lot of I'm from Oklahoma City. originally and I know a lot of women who. have the luxury of saying I'm just. >> not political. >> Yeah. And these are white women that are. married and their husbands do well and.

so their bank account and their. complexion. excludes them from having to give a [ __ ]. about politics. And so when I think. about your moms and their fight for. social justice in raising you and your. siblings, the twins, um. how personal that is and how. every person should have the right to. marry whom they want, breed if they so. choose to or create and um. this regime is really trying to.

backtrack. on all of that stuff. So combining like. all of this joy, you're a very joyful. person. You come in here, you sit down, you're happy. You live in Zoran's New. York, which a lot of times you don't. feel the MAGA stuff in New York. >> It's a safe haven. >> Right, but it's but it's there. And as. as we are all trying to navigate and my. listeners kind of go through this too is. we're all trying to navigate our place. as Americans. And as you. sit down and you make this really joyful. outside denier you or you interview.

those adorable kids and. and then there's this incubation going. on over here where everything that your. mothers fought for and the Harvey Milks. and all of the progress and particularly. if you look even to black Americans, the. dismantling of the Voting Rights Act. that has taken place. All of the um. joy that people on the right feel about. taking those rights. away from families like yours. How How.

do you reconcile that and how do you. still maintain joy at the same time? >> Wow. You know. I I mean honestly, I think that. there like. it's two things. Here's my Here's my. honest answer. I think. all you can do sometimes is. put it out of mind sometimes, which is a.

privilege thing to do, but I think. sometimes you have to. just have joy. >> I agree. >> I think that's an important thing to do. But then also like. you have to have your coalition and. community of like. like-minded. brave. uh. and powerful people who are working. together to fight against that. Like.

everybody in my community, like my. sister is a community organizer and um. runs mutual aid group called We the. People. Like. the people I surround myself with, like. we are all working towards this vision. of the future that isn't that, and I. feel like. the fact that we are all working. together gives me hope as well. So it's. it's it's a balancing act. >> think outside tonight and it being. queer. do you think that that is a joyful form.

of resistance? >> 100%. >> Don't you think? >> I think Well, that's the thing. It's. like. I kind of kind of the end of the last. thought is it's like. fight, but also enjoy yourself. >> And create. >> And create. And then also like. proliferating joy. and queer joy, and that is resistance. That That is a powerful act, and like. not taking that for granted, and like. not letting all of that hate silence.

your voice at all or ever. And the. second that that does, that that That's. losing to some extent. >> Yeah. When I watched um uh some of your shows, Outside Tonight, which comes out every. Wednesday. >> Every Wednesday. >> Every Wednesday on Outside Tonight on. YouTube. Um I thought, you know, these. are great ways of resistance. These are. great ways to actively feel joy and. resist in the middle of what we're all. experiencing right now. And um you have. a book coming out.

>> This is my book, How to Grow Up Without. Becoming a Grown-Up. >> Okay. >> I This book really is I As we're having. this conversation, like everything that. we were just talking about. >> Yeah. >> It's all about like how. to use the philosophies. and the mindset of children and bring it. into your adult life. I believe that. like the way kids shirt Like the whole. idea is that like yes, I did Recess. Therapy. I've been doing Recess Therapy. for 5 years. I've interviewed upwards of. 6,000 children in the past 5 years. And.

the things they say are brilliant and. hilarious and sweet and cute. And if you. want to hear those things, you can watch. the show. But. at a certain point, I started to feel. like. the more impactful thing was the way. they were moving through the world, and. the way they were. navigating. their friendships and their anger, and. really the way they were living was more. interesting to me. So, I started taking. notes and collecting essays, and. basically I like.

put together my hope for a compelling. case of why I think adults would be. happier if they acted more like kids. I have a whole chapter in here basically. about how. I think the way kids stand up to. injustice. is something to emulate. My whole. thought process behind it is that like. we raise kids to believe that their. voices matter and can make change. We. raise kids to believe that like these. very small things like recycling and.

like going to a protest can change the. world. And I think to be an adult is to. believe that your voice does nothing. I think a lot of people start to feel. like, "Oh my god, these issues are so. big that there's like nothing I can do. to change anything." And I think that is. losing and I think we need to. we need to be as confident as kids. because I think then we train ourselves. uh. to do little things and little things. grow into big things. Like kids are so. willing. to.

go out and like pick up trash. And yes, that is so small, but like they are. willing to do anything. And I think. training your. yourself to have the idea translated. into action. And then once you're in the. habit of that, those actions can grow. and grow and grow. versus doing nothing at all. >> Right. And do how much do you think your. mothers and fathers informed your um. plight to do this kind of active joyful.

resistance during this time. Like your. mother's fought the good fight where she. has you and she has her fist up so that. you could resist in a really joyful way. because you exist. She fought to have. you. And so now your resistance is more. joyful than than theirs probably was. back in the day. >> I am who I am because of my parents. I. feel like they. um. just. put all of their love and support into. me and my siblings growing up and like.

believed in me at every single stage of. my life through and through. Like I have. never not felt like they didn't support. me, and I feel like that has just. bolstered me to this place where like. all all I have is their support now, and. so I feel like I can go out and try. anything and believe myself and do. anything, and I know that they have my. back. So, I do feel like they like they. filled my cup up so much that I can kind. of like, you know, it feels hard to fail when you have such.

a strong support system, is how I feel. >> And I think that I think that's what the. best parenting is. >> It is, yeah. >> It really is. I think that the joy that. I've experienced from the LGBTQ+. community is one of the best. >> Mhm. >> parts of my life, especially when I. lived in Oklahoma and everybody was so. homogeneous. And so, the LGBTQ+. community was something cuz I'm not. religious, not Republican, and I felt. more at home with them. It's just. >> It was the. >> universal radical acceptance. >> But, my mom always said, mom's a lawyer.

>> Okay. >> She says, if you ever. go to court, don't assume I'll represent you. She. said, depends on what you did. >> [laughter]. >> She a criminal defense lawyer? >> She's a family court lawyer. So, wouldn't really make sense for her to. represent me anyway, but. she she doesn't have my back unless. >> unless you knock somebody out. >> Exactly. Well, then maybe she'll help me. out. >> Yeah. >> My mom, hmm, let me censor myself. No, I. won't. My mom always was like, if you. ever get somebody pregnant, just have it. I really want. grandchildren. >> [laughter]. >> And I was like, Mom,

I'm not ready to have kids yet. >> Julian Shapiro-Barnum, tell the I've had. it community how they can find you, all. of your shows, where they can sub, and. where they can follow you on social. media. >> All right. Hi everybody, thank you so. much for listening. I'm Julian. Shapiro-Barnum. You can follow me uh. @julianmsb on Instagram. You can check. out my book, How to Grow Up Without. Becoming a Grown-Up, uh. on You can Google it, or there's a link. in my bio. If you want to watch my late. night show, it's called Outside Tonight. If you want to watch Recess Therapy, it's called Recess Therapy. And if you.

want to watch my other show, where I. have celebrities teach in public. schools, it's called Celebrity. Substitute. I I need to take a break. soon, but I'm not going to because I. love doing what I do. >> [laughter]. >> Julian, thank you so much and to the Fox. producers that had to watch this for. content. >> [ __ ] you. >> Yeah, [ __ ] you. [ __ ] you, little [ __ ]. All right, Julian, thank you so much. >> Mwah.