IHIP News: Trump SLAMMED After DISASTER Ruling! Rev. Al Sharpton SOUNDS THE ALARM!

Joining us today on I Hip News is the. iconic Reverend Al Sharpton. You're in. for a treat. He serves as the founder. and president of the National Action. Network, anchors Politics Nation on. MSNBC, hosts the nationally syndicated. radio shows Keeping It Real and The Hour. of Power, holds weekly National Action. Network Saturday rallies, and speaks out. on behalf of those who have been. silenced and marginalized. It sounds. like you're really busy, Reverend. >> Yeah, a little bit little bit.

>> Yeah. All right. So, you're one of the. preeminent civil rights leaders of our. time. And give me some perspective here. Give. my listener and viewer some perspective. here. How far does the SCOTUS decision. set us back with the voting right Voting. Rights Act? >> it sets us back in a very. uh. impactful way in the sense that now that. they've said that you can no longer. protect people's rights that says that.

they've been discriminated against in. terms of voting. uh uh participation by race or for that. matter. uh they said that they are going to. allow them to redraw the lines where. they they the district lines of voting. So, your congressman. uh uh congresswoman may no longer. reflect the community you're in. I think. the whole purpose of the Voting Rights. Act was to try and make sure that. everyone had fair access to the ballot.

What the Supreme Court has done is. overturned that. So, if you if you're in. a state. that you have for example, they just did. the ruling uh the vote yesterday in. South Carolina where uh you have a state. over 30% black, they wanted to take out. the. the only one black majority district, Jim Clyburn. So, that means that you. would then chop up the black community. in other little districts and there'd be.

no collective way for them to say this. is a guy that represents our interest. because we still deal with inequities in. this country. >> Yeah, I've seen some of these. redrawings. And they're pretty crazy. I mean, you've. got some where they've drawn a really. blocked out a lot of the black vote, taking an urban area and getting. adopting all this rural area, absorbing. it into that district. How many seats do. you anticipate black politicians will.

lose because of this gutting? >> There's been one. study that says we could lose 16 to 19. seats. And I think that. it's the challenge of our of our time. because the fundamental advantages that. we got out of the 1960s Civil Rights. Movement was the Voting Rights Act and. the Civil Rights Act. So, here you have. a year and a half into Trump's second. term, he's going after DEI, diversity, equity, and inclusion, which is the.

Civil Rights Act, making sure that. people are diverse not only in. government but in the private sector. And that includes women, gays, and. everyone. >> Yeah. >> And then the Voting Rights Act. So, it's. almost like he's coming with a mandate. that I'm going to reverse. the civil rights and human rights wins. of the '60s. And there those of us that. have to resist that across racial agenda. line. >> Speak a little bit about how.

Donald Trump arrived in 2016. But there have been forces organizing. and fundraising to dismantle the Voting. Rights Act long before he descended on. that escalator. I'm talking about the. Heritage Foundation, the Federalist. Society that groomed these Supreme Court. Justices to get them in this position to. execute this form of, you know, exclusionary and in my opinion, downright racist, regressive laws. Can.

you speak to that a little bit? >> I think that, uh, you know, I grew up in. the civil rights movement. I became. youth director of, uh, the economic, uh, Operation Breadbasket, Dr. King's. organization. Uh, a year that he died, Jesse Jackson appointed I was a. 12-year-old. Got it with the rallies, then guy was already a boy preaching. And then at 13, he appointed me that in. New York. So, I know a lot about the. history cuz I was under the guys that.

did it. And, uh, I think they started. then trying to dismantle. And, uh, it. grew into, uh, a movement from the moral majority, uh, who also wanted to change some of. the voting stuff, some of the civil. rights act, uh, all the way till you saw the, uh, Tea Party, then the birtherism movement. It's been a consistent line. Uh, and, uh, it's interesting to me that people. act like those of us that's been in the. civil rights a long time, uh, oh,

they're talking about the '60s. So are. they. They're going back to. to their roots. So, why would not, uh, it be the same on the other side? And I. think what they lacked was a charismatic. figure that could like kind of bring it. all under one. And Donald Trump was the personality. that could do that. Cuz Donald Trump was. always more entertainer and personality. than he was politician. But he was able.

to symbolize for them, uh, at that time. The other thing I. think that people shouldn't. underestimate is that, uh, Donald Trump. was the immediate successor to Barack. Obama. So, it was almost like backlash. Yep. And I I think that uh, the election. and re-election of Obama. helped to really incite a lot of those. elements that had racial problems as. well as Obama ended up supporting.

same-sex marriage. Obama ended up. supporting a lot of the things in the. cultural wars that they were opposed to. So, they overreacted by putting in. a guy who's absolutely, in my opinion, democratic guy get racist and fascist. >> Totally. Um I. grew up in Oklahoma City and just. recently moved to New York City. And I remember when Obama was president, he came to Oklahoma City to cuz he's. president. You know, he was coming there.

for some oil pipeline. I can't remember. what it was, but some national business. he had in the state. He was greeted by. the citizens of Oklahoma City with. Confederate flags. And I was just I mean, it it sickened. me. It sickened me to my core. So, my. question is. after the Civil War, you have the South. that has been romanticizing. and playing patty-cake with these uh. Confederate soldiers and generals and. they have statues of them.

If we look to other mass egregious. genocides or human rights violations. like what happened to the black. population in America, if you look at. Germany, they would never have statues. of any Nazi soldiers. Um you have the. benefactor for Clarence Thomas, a man. named Harlan Crow, who collects. as a hobby Nazi China. Have we not been. crystal clear enough. about we will not tolerate this type of.

racism? Because it's it's in recent, like in the last 10 years, that they. really started pulling down these. statues, which I think might have. exacerbated this backlash that you're. talking about as well. Can you speak. about that? as reckoning that? >> I think you raised a good question. I. think that it became acceptable to too. many people. And those of us that were. offended were too. uh. I would say not loud enough to that they. existed in the first place. So that I'm.

talking about the Confederate statues. So that when uh they were taken down, people reacted cuz they really never had. to be confronted with how can you honor. these people in the first place? >> Right. >> Cuz not only were these people bigots, they divided the country. They were. against the union of the country. The. Confederates were not only racist, they. were trying to overthrow the US. government. So how does any government. celebrate the people that tried to.

overthrow them? I mean, it it's. irrational on several levels, but that's. what happened. And when they started. taking down the statues of of Robert E. Lee and others, Confederates, people act. like you're attacking our culture. No, we are correcting our history. And as. you rightly pointed out, no nation in. the world, Germany is the example you. used, would be celebrating people that. not only were bigots, but tried to. destroy the country. The Confederates.

tried to overthrow the government. >> Yeah. >> And if you can. if you can let digest that, then you can. fast forward, sit around and say let's. have a slush fund to take care of the uh. the guys that did January 6th that. literally beat up policemen. They're. supposed to be pro-police. They beat up. law enforcement, desecrated the Capitol, and. it's the same kind of irrational kind of.

rationality they've tried to sell cuz. it's on the emotion of they're after us, not understanding that you are us in. another uh uh sense. I mean, who is. paying higher gas prices cuz Iran? All. of us. >> Yeah. >> Uh I I mean, all of the things that they. think is us against them, it they they. uh in terms of that Trump voting base, they suffer from that. >> Yeah. >> So, when they said I I remember when we. were dealing with the uh Affordable Care.

and trying to, you know, rally around in. certain states. I would tour just rally. around to make sure people put pressure. on their senators and congressmen to. vote for it. And uh I said to a lady. lady stopped me in the airport and said. uh "Reverend Al, I don't agree with you. on uh that Obamacare thing. I know what. you in town for." I said, "So, you're. against the Affordable Care?" She said, "Oh, no, I'm for the Affordable Care. I'm just against Obamacare." I said,

"It's the same thing. That is what it. is." Because they get them up on this us. against them thing that they don't. understand what they really talking. about. >> So, you you spoke about how we uh. seller in the South they kind of. celebrated and idolized the people who. tried to overthrow the country. And it's. almost as if that incubated, you know, decades decades decades later. what happened with Donald Trump. And I. think what also has incubated the. violence we're seeing in the streets.

between the uh. ICE agents and the killing of. uh protesters. I think that us ignoring. over-policing in black neighborhoods. incubated for that moment. Cuz so many. people are like, "Oh my god, they shot, you know, Renee Good and Alex pretty. horrible horrible to see.". But people in the black community. community would say, "This isn't new.". >> Right. >> This has been happening and we've been. trying to tell you. So, what happens when we don't link.

everybody's rights together? You just. spoke about gas prices hit a triple. trumper and they're going to hit Al. Sharpton. Nobody is immune from gas. prices. What happens when we say, "Okay, here's all the universal human rights.". When we start grading them and. deprioritizing them? >> I think that when we don't do that, we. give them too much room in the middle to. go through and continue. to do what they're doing. If we explain.

everybody exactly the way you laid it. out, that this is not us against each. other, but they're playing all of us against. each other so that they can benefit at. the top of the economic ladder and and. and with political power. So, when I see. a Renee Goodchild in Minneapolis, I thought about how. with just 6 years ago I was in. Minneapolis. marching and doing a funeral for George. Floyd.

>> Yeah. >> And if you allow. a law officer, which he was not allowed cause of the. protest, he did go to jail, but to put. his knee on someone's neck, then you. allow an ICE agent to come and and just. shoot a woman through the window of her. car. in in the middle of her saying to him, "I forgive you you you all right." I. mean, once you go down that road, nobody. can stop it because once you permit that. there's no going to be no kind of of of.

boundaries on law enforcement, it can. start with blacks, then it'll go to. immigrants, then it'll go to whites, then it'll go on from there. And I think. that that is something that we must work. hard to do. We we Martin Luther King III. and I have marched August 28th in. Washington around some of these issues. And what we are saying is we want. everybody to march with us. It's is a. black march because that's what his. father did. His father died, was killed.

trying to get everybody together, poor. people's campaign. Uh because poverty is. not a just black thing. Uh Jesse. Jackson, who mentored me, rainbow. coalition. We need to return to that, cuz what Trump and this era and this ilk. is doing is hurting all of us. So, even. though we may have different lanes, we're all on the same highway of needing. needing to have freedom protected for. everybody. >> Yeah, and I think that the.

ignoring of anti-black racism has. incubated, like you said, a rise in. homophobia, a rise in anti-immigrant. sentiment, transphobia, antisemitism, and Islamophobia. But, it. seems to me like the the group, out of. all of the people who get picked on by. the MAGA Republicans, that are really. suffering materially right now, are. black Americans. When you look at. unemployment, um since it's black women. who have suffered the most. When you're.

talking about 16 to 19 seats. So, you. hear a lot of people on cable news and. on podcast spaces talk about the rise of. this, the rise of that. The rise of. anti-black racism is a 911, house is on. fire, in my opinion, right now. >> about it. And and those of us that. raised that issue, we become. controversial. And you need to. sit back sometime and say, "Well, wait a. minute. What is controversial about. saying that people should not be treated.

differently because of the color of. their skin?". The the fact is that once you get away. with that, then you can go on to gender, then you can go on to antisemitism, on and on and on. Because once you allow. the choosing who is equal and who is. worthy, >> Mhm. >> then you've already started to. legitimate. give legitimacy to people making. choices. We're all human. So,

and we all should have the same human. value. The reason why blacks have been. more impacted is because the country. started enslaving blacks, identified. easily because of our color, and they. made it law that blacks were 3/5 of a. man. No one else had a legal. situation against them. >> Mhm. >> But once they did it normal, just like. blacks had problems, women couldn't. vote. >> Yeah. >> And then it goes on and on. So, I think.

that once we deal with the commonality. of being victims of bias, then that's. the majority of the country. >> I want to show you an image, and this is something that I would think. I would see in a textbook from the. 1950s, 1960s. This was the last couple. of weeks. Pop this up. And of course, this is. um Tennessee State Representative Justin. Pearson blocked from entering the. chamber. This picture was taken while a.

Republican-controlled legislature passed. a new map to eliminate the state's only. black-majority congressional district. Democratic lawmakers were blocked from. entering the chamber. When you see this, having worked with all of the iconic. champions for civil rights, and you see this here, how does that. make you feel? >> It makes me feel like the the the photos. I saw as a kid of them blocking Fannie.

Lou Hamer, or blocking Dr. King. And then when I. got my teenage years, I would hear. stories from Reverend Jackson and others. telling me about what they couldn't go. to school. at a certain place. You You my parents. were from the South. I was born and. raised in Brooklyn. So, I didn't have. that experience, but I was told that. experience. And it was unimaginable to. me uh certain exclusion. It is now. happening in real time. To block an.

elected official like Justin. >> Yeah. >> from going in a hearing that he was. elected to do. That is at one level bigotry, but at. another level, you don't even believe in. the tenets of the democratic process. that you claim to believe in. Cuz you're. not letting an elected representative go. in a hearing that he's supposed to be. party to. So, all rationale is thrown. out the window. And and and the real. patriots are the ones that stand up for.

what the country fought for and got to. in some places. Not the ones that are. saying we're going back into the. pre-1940. days. >> It's it's so upsetting to me. And what. do you say uh Supreme Court Justice. Ketanji Brown Jackson recently spoke out. about a ruling. Um let's pop up her um. She says. Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson says her. colleagues handling on the Louisiana. voting rights case may have been.

compromised may have compromised the. court's impartiality in political. matters. Um I think she has just. a horrific job uh with the co-workers. that she has. And just as an aside, I. want to point out that the emotional. hysterical person in his hearings. recently in front of the Senate was um. of course Brett Kavanaugh. >> Right. >> This woman handled herself incredibly. And she has to work with these people. who are completely compromised, bought.

up by corporate interest, her co-workers. on the bench. And you have three justices here who are. trying to hold the line. Um. what do you what do you think about. what's happening state by state, how. targeted this is, how much this is. rising up right now? What do you think can halt this? >> I think the only thing that will halt it. is what halted it in the beginning, and. that's mass movements united. Uh so,

when you had the Dr. King led movement. and SNCC and others, cuz it wasn't just. Dr. King, but he's the one that had. notoriety. They had partners in the. Jewish community, Rabbi Abraham Heschel, in labor, uh Walter Reuther. I think. it's going to take that kind of. movement. That's why. when Randi Weingarten of the American. Federation of Teachers asked me, would. we join in, my organization, National. Action Network, would uh No Kings March,

yeah, and I marched with Robert De Niro. right here in New York with thousands. It's important we come out and show we. are together. And that we understand. that all of us are under threat. And. it's going to take that kind of. movement. And and we've got to also. address some of those in our own silos. that don't understand that. So, I'll. have people in black churches say to me, how can you stand up for gay rights and. same-sex marriage? I said, because they.

have the right to do that. And once you. start limiting people's rights, then you. they can limit your rights. Nobody's. forcing you to believe in whatever. lifestyle. But how do you have the right. to decide somebody else's lifestyle? And. I think that when we all that are. visible in our silos stand up and defend. the fact that we've got to work with. everybody, then I think that we will. have a movement they can't stop. Cuz. Trump and others, they major and master.

divided, divided conquer. And if we can. break that, I think that if we can turn. this clock back. >> I hope so. Final question, Reverend. I'm. very worried about We you spoke about. the Tea Party earlier. And I think the. Tea Party incubated MAGA. >> Right. >> Trump's not a spring chicken. He doesn't. look very healthy. Appears, in my. opinion, I'm not a medical professional, but appears to have out of control. runaway dementia. That's just my. opinion.

So, what is he incubating? And you go to. these corners of the internet that I. used to think were fringe. I used to. think like people that wanted to support. Donald Trump in the primaries in 2015, 2016, I thought that was fringe. Now. fringers have the whole federal. government. And then you go to like the. Nick Fuentes, who is a. unapologetic bigot, neo-Nazi, misogynist, homophobe, all the stuff to. his core. You have this America First. movement that is popping up on the right.

via Marjorie Taylor Greene, via Tucker. Carlson. And I'm very skeptical. of these people, of these movements, because as a woman who grew up in. flyover America, you have a demagogue like Tucker or. Marjorie or Nick Fuentes or somebody. that says, "You know, we're sending all these bombs. here and and that's not America First. We're America First." And somebody. consumes that in a 30-second little hit. And then you look at the record of these. people. They don't give a about.

Black Americans. They don't give a. about gay Americans. They these people. do not are not in favor of universal. human rights. And so, are you worried about once this man. dies, what he has incubated? What is out. there simmering right now beyond MAGA? >> about it because I think that and I'm. happy you raised it. I think we're. ignoring. that that he's incubated this and we're. not on the other side incubating. One of.

the things I've tried to do in National. Action that work is develop young. leaders and give them. uh the head of our chapters. They they. they are out front in our rallies cuz. we've got to incubate people and we've. got to incubate them to have comfort. level across different silos because. that's the only way it's going we can't. have let leaders uh die and the movement. die with them. And I think that uh that the incubation. of of what has happened on the right.

with Donald Trump has done is a danger. to my grandchildren, great-grandchildren. if I have it. And uh and we've got to. understand that. It's not going to end. with the personality of Donald Trump. So. even in '28 when he leaves office and uh. he's going to try not to I think but. when he leaves office, it doesn't mean. this is over cuz he's unleashed a spirit. in some of them in power. And we've got. to counter that and we've got to be un-.

uh unashamed of it I agree and and and. and bold about it. And yes, you're going. to get hit. They're going to call your. names but uh if you get in the ring, you're going to get hit. You just have. to throw more blows. >> I completely agree. I think that we need. to shame. racists and racism and I totally agree. with you that we need to incubate our. own goodness and our own. opposition to this and it takes allies. because none of us are free until all of. us are free and I have lived in a MAGA.

supermajority state. It is a race to the. bottom with bigots in charge and it is a. miserable miserable place for people to. live that want freedom and equality. Reverend, thank you so much. >> Thank you for having me. >> So important that we continue to fight. this all together. >> Yes, ma'am. All right. Thank you.

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