IHIP News: Trump's WH Using AI SLOP to Push LIES and PROPAGANDA As Admin Faces TOTAL COLLAPSE!

We are joined today by Mike Nis. He is. the former advisor to Vice President Kla. Harris. He is a social media impactor, entrepreneur, and an AI political. expert. How all that works together. And. so I'm fascinated. by the role that AI is playing right now. in our politics, specifically when you get into these. super right-wing or even super leftwing. centers where they just feed you what.

you want. How is that impacting our. elections, do you think? >> Yeah. Well, there's just a ton of AI. generated slop and basically no. regulations to prevent it from. happening. Although the governor of New. York, Kathy Hokll, just suggested a. 90-day moratorum in elections in New. York for AI. But I think what it's going. to do is AI is sort of like every other. facet of the internet. It's going to. make everything good potentially better. and it's going to make everything bad. potentially significantly worse. And so. to me, there's a million different.

tactics that have always been unsaavory. in politics. Like when I was in high. school, I was volunteering for a state. senator back home in Nebraska. And the. Republicans would hand out flyers. saying, you know, Republicans vote on. Tuesday and Democrats vote on. Wednesdays. Right now, you're going to. get a million things like that, except. the scale will be bigger. The imagery. will seem more real. And it's going to. be hard. And unless Congress and local. governments step in, we're going to have. a massive problem in AI, I think, in. this election. And it's only going to. get worse from there. Well, and we see. that Trump doesn't want any regulation. on AI for obvious reasons, but how do.

you see we saw the horrific murder shot. in the face Renee Good by ICE agents. How what is the role of AI in the. propaganda that is being pushed out by. the Trump administration because it. amazes me the lack of shame and I think. how can anybody look at that video and. not be outraged. So what's the role in. AI in with AI in that? >> Well, the first thing is AI sort of can. detach people from reality, right? It's.

going to make it harder for them to know. what's real and what's not real. And if. you look at mega circles right now, they're sharing all kinds of fake videos. of what happened to Renee Good. And. let's be clear, she was she was murdered. by that ICE agent. There was no reason. for him to shoot. There was no reason. for them to escalate. And now they're. sharing fake videos. They're sharing. fake information about her life and her. kid. And I saw one that popped up on X, which continues to be a complete. cesspool, where they were showing her. basically in um a LWD way is maybe the. nicest way I can describe it, but they. were trying to undermine her. credibility, which happens to a lot of. women. And I don't know if you followed.

the story at all, but like on X um Elon. Musk has this AI tool called Grock. And. Grock has its own image features. And. all these image features have been, you. know, sort of spiraled out of control in. the last week to the point they had to. shoot them down where you could. basically create child pornography and. you could be, you know, creating naked. images of people. And um it's very. horrific. And and again, it's like you. you come back down to this core. fundamental thing. Do you trust Elon. Musk to hold the future of the internet. or can we get somebody in the government. at some level to step in and regulate. this stuff because it's going to destroy.

whole industries, but it's also just. going to continue to hurt people. So, I. think for Trump, he wants to use AI to. create, you know, silly stuff like fake. endorsements from Taylor Swift, which I. think everybody knows is generally. false. But it's going to be hard because. I'm I'm imagining you go back to 2020. where they were claiming that Democrats. were stuffing ballot boxes. Like, now. you're going to have AI generated images. of Mike Nellis stuffing a ballot box. because, you know, the Republicans want. to create that and a lot of people won't. be able to tell the difference. >> Oh, wow. I didn't even think about that. And then the role that AI's take uh.

playing in these protests and I and our. producer Kylie always has to tell me no. that's an AI video. But you see on the. right wing you see all this propaganda. and all these people and all and then. you find out it's AI. Are they using it. better than we are on the left or is the. right just without conscience in terms. of using AI or that's probably not a. good question, but you know what I'm.

saying. >> Yeah. Well, I mean, they're always going. to have, I guess, a strategic advantage. by having a lack of morals, right? Like. one of the problems that Democrats run. into, right? Um I helps helps and hurts, I guess, cuz I think it hurts them when. they're trying to actually legislate and. help people. They can't do it. like they. just cannot seem to come up with any. solution that's going to improve your. life or my life or anybody's life. And. so, but I think there's practical uses. of AI and then there's just sort of like. the skeby bad sloppy poor uses of AI.

And I think Democrats are doing a good. job on the practical uses, right? How. can we use this to speed up our content. creation? How can we use this to take. wrote tasks that we're doing that are. taking up a bunch of humans time? Like. on most political campaigns, the amount. of time that's taken on data entry from. people who go door to door and talk to. voters is, you know, hundreds of hours. on every campaign. AI can actually do. that pretty effectively. It isn't really. taking away any jobs. So like, it's. worth investing in tools like that. Um, and I think we should do more of that. I. think the content creation side, Republicans are probably winning, but I. don't know that they found like a really.

practical use for it. Like most of the. AI stuff that we've seen has just been. pretty silly. it's been like a you know. like just trying to create attention um. and stuff like that or like I work with. um Adam Schiff. I worked with Adam. Schiff for a long time and um a couple. years ago we created an AI generated. image of him on May 4th for Star Wars. day of him as a Jedi for the campaign. and like that was like a big deal got. press like that's fine if it's like a. stunty use of it but they are getting. more and more salacious and what I worry. about is less so when there's something. that goes crazy viral on X that isn't.

true and a lot of people believe it. I. worry about the stuff in like a small. community where there's like a a. schoolboard race and a fake AI generated. image of a schoolboard candidate, a. Democrat, starts going around tech. circles and no way for me to even know. about it, let alone be able to, you. know, push back on it. So, this is kind. of stuff I worry about. I worry it just. gets really gross and hard to track down. the line. >> Okay, switching gears a little bit. as a. former strategist for Vice President. Harris who is thoughtful. She, you know,

weighs every decision, every comment, you know, she takes in, she's surrounded. by experts. When you see the decisions being made. out of this White House and the people. that surround him, what's your first. thought? Like, what's your gut reaction. having someone that's been inside these. same offices? What is your reaction to. that? >> Yeah. Well, I wish Kla Harris was. president right now. [laughter]. >> Yeah, we wouldn't be here. We'd all be. on an island.

>> Right. Right. I I told you off stream I. was like I was going to retire and leave. politics, but I like on election night I. was like I I can't I have to I got to. stick this out for another four years. and figure out what to do. >> I I mean look I I think Kla Harris would. have been a phenomenal president. Um and. I think she was also dealt probably the. worst hand of any person who's ever run. for president in American history. Giving her 107 days was. >> disastrous in my opinion. just not. enough time for her to improve as a. candidate to build the team, to come up. with the agenda, to do the necessary. research. So, but again, I I think, you. know, we're not in as bad of a situation.

as it seems. Like, again, America's in a. very bad situation, but I think the. party has an opportunity to come back. Um, I was grateful that Kla Harris. decided to write her book and that it. was at least her truth and it was. interesting. Like a lot of politicians. write very boring, basic books. I was. grateful that she told her truth even. when there was stuff I disagreed with in. it. Um, but I, you know, I I think I I. want her voice and I want her engaged. I. don't know if she'll run in 2028. That's. up to her and Doug and the rest of the. family. But, um, you know, I I wish you. were president right now, which is sort. of my main reaction because everything. happening in Washington right now is.

about Donald Trump. It's about putting. money in his pocket. It's about. protecting him from things like the. Epstein files. It's about him going. after his political enemies. This Jerome. Powell stuff um from from last night. where he's using Oh, it's crazy. I mean, but he's going to go after anybody that. he thinks is a threat or won't stand in. line. And he also wants to send a. chilling message to everybody else in. his administration and in the government. that if I can go after Jerome Powell who. is the independent head of the of the of. the the Fed of the Fed then he can go. after basically anybody and that's going. to send a pretty chilling effect. Same.

way that the pardons for January 6 I. think emboldens ICE officers to do. things like they did this week to Renee. Good. >> I agree with that. Okay. Let me ask you. this. I Jennifer and I both have just. been profoundly disappointed with. Democratic leadership's response to all. of Trump's stuff. Saw today an article. in one of our IHIPS that Chuck Schumer. and Hakee Jeff. defending ICE is not on the table.

[snorts] The response has been so. lackluster. as a Democratic strategist, as somebody who's been inside, what what is your opinion of the current. Democratic leadership that we have? >> Yeah. I mean, I think that Chuck and. Aake are in difficult situations, right? Which is one in the American system of. government, you when you're in the. minority, you have very limited powers, right? It isn't like Chuck Schumer can. pull. >> McConnell did a lot when he was in the. minority. >> Yeah. They were able to slow things down. in like legislative wise, right? And I. and I think if you look at it, this is.

the least productive Congress in. American history. Now, most of that is. because of the Republicans. um they just. don't even want to legislate, right? They've completely given Congress to. Trump. Speaker Johnson basically works. for Trump, which is insane to me. I. can't even Mitch McConnell didn't work. for like George W. Bush, right? He was. working for himself and and his. interest. But I I think Democrats do. need to be stronger. And to me, I think. that starts with generational change. And we talk a lot about generational. change with being, you know, Joe Biden. is this old and Chuck Schumer is this. old, etc. But I think it's more we need. like generational change at every level. of the party. We need new consultants.

We need new influencers. We need new. candidates that are going to run. We. need new people that are building. technology. And I just think that. they're in a difficult situation. But. they've also gotten I think a lot more. right. And I'm not going to like fully. defend everybody here. Like to be clear, I think the Democratic Party's got to do. a lot better. But like during the. shutdown fight, and I know people were. mad about the way the shutdown fight. ended. I think one of the best successes. for Democrats was the decision to frame. it around the healthcare subsidies which. changed the whole conversation on the. election away from executive power. democracy Trump was doing all the chaos. that he was creating to affordability.

which is a better terrain for Democrats. to be on and that was a decision that. Chuck Schumer and Aake Jeff made. together I believe so I think it's it's. not as bad as it seems but I think all. the critiques that like you have and. others have are fair. >> but okay so but when you talk about this. this authoritarianism and let's just. start with Doge. Okay, so Elon Musk. comes in, he slashes the federal. government. It seems to me that. Democratic leadership should have been. out front all day every day talking.

about the dismantling of the federal. government against the wishes of. Congress, against the the branches of. government, all of that. You just didn't. hear that. It just seems that the. Democratic party as a whole is pulling. like 16 17% because we're not seeing. fighters. And so, how do we get our. Democratic leadership to be fighters? Because I look at Hakeem Jeff and Chuck. Schumers and I don't see fighters. I see. a very weak uh opposition because they.

are not saying we want Christy Noman. here. We're stopping all funding until. this happens. They're not like reporters. were asking questions to Chuck Schumer. and Hakee Jeff about should we do this, should we do that to c combat that? It. was crickets. I mean, so like why does a. reporter have a better option than. leadership? So how do we move them as a. party? >> Yeah. Well, let's diagnose a little bit. of the beginning, right? Because in the. beginning of the Trump administration, Democrats were completely flatfooted.

And I think it's one of the reasons that. I became like a content creator and. started just like saying my piece was. there wasn't anybody out there trying to. rally people together. And so like I was. pretty pissed off too that it felt like. okay we're going to try to work with. Trump at the beginning of administration. and acting like this is normal when it's. not. And I think that was a strategic. mistake. And you saw it took like 90 to. 100 days for Democrats to go okay we. have to get back into a a fighter. position because Trump has sort of given. us enough to work with. I I I think that. which is and then compare that by the. way to the Republicans under Obama who.

immediately were like we're not going to. help you on anything. >> Yeah. They weren't caught fluff on it. >> Right now the thing the thing about Doge. is and I I diagnose this a little bit. with my strategist hat on for a second. is like Doge is not a bad idea. It was a. good idea poorly implemented by bad. people in my opinion. Right. And so I. think Democrats wanted to on some level. give them the benefit of the doubt which. you should never give the modern day. Republican party the benefit of the. doubt. Let me be clear about that. Um, but I think they wanted to try to give. them that. And I and I also say on the. dismantling of the government, like. let's talk about US A for a second. I.

think a trap that Democrats fall into. all the time is we're constantly. explaining process and we're constantly. lecturing people about what's legal and. what's not legal. And a functioning. system of government, a functioning. society never elects somebody like. Donald Trump in the first place. So. people do elect him to disrupt the. system. And then Democrats are over here. kind of like the nerdy guys at the table. telling you what the rules of Monopoly. are. Um, and it's really kind of. frustrating. Like US Aid is the perfect. example of that. To the average person, US A is like sending money over to. Africa to help kids and we're all. supportive of that, but we're like, I.

want that money here. Building roads and. bridges. The same reason I think people. hate what Trump is doing in Venezuela. right now is because they don't want. their money going to Venezuela or. Colombia or Argentina where he gave $50. billion to. So, Democrats were standing. in front of the US A headquarters and. they were trying to explain to people. why it was important. And what they. weren't doing was framing it about why. it's important to you, right? And and my. complaint in that moment was instead of. talking about the legality of it, which. clearly people don't care about, if they. cared about Trump breaking the law, they. would have, you know, ditched him a. million years ago, explaining why US.

valuable to you, which is that when. there's foreign policy, there's hard. power and there's soft power, right? Hard power is the military keeping us. safe, doing the work that it needs to. do, and soft power is our influence. And. what happened was we withdrew ourselves. from the world through US aid. All those. programs didn't necessarily go away. although a lot of them did but China and. Russia started filling the gap and so. China is a ascendant on the world stage. and the question I would have been. asking in that moment to every American. is do you feel safer if China is more. powerful compared to America because I.

don't and that's how I would have framed. that and that's the problem that. Democrats went into we care so much we. give a about starving kids in. Africa and that's the right thing we. should but it's still about soft power. and it's about keeping the American. people safe and Trump understands that I. think pretty in a pretty savvy way that. he can just sort of bypass that and go, "Well, I don't give a about them. I. care about you and I'm gonna help you.". Which is obviously, you know, BS. But, um, I think that's the trap we run into. And Democrats are getting better at that. in this last year, but it's still like. an ongoing problem. >> Yeah, it's it's and I appreciate Adam.

Schiff and Chris Murphy and those. senators that come out and they are very. clear about what the message is. Unfortunately, I'm not seeing that with. the majority because I would think it. would be so easy all day, every day to. call Donald Trump dementia. I mean, he's. corrupt. He has dementia. He has no. plan. And he's does not give a. about foreign policy other than to do.

Trump's bit. I'm sorry, Putin's, you. know, Putin's bidding. He's not doing. anything he says he was going to do. And. I don't I just don't see that response. So hopefully since you have more. connections than me, you can help. effectuate change in the Democratic. party so that we can hopefully have. robust primaries and elect a new. generation of people that are willing to. fight and not be for my for my money. I. appreciate integrity politics, but. integrity politics assumes everybody in.

politics has integrity. And I think we. what we found out in a big way is that's. not true. And what we needed to be doing. is is fighting. So. >> yeah. Well, and if I can if I can like. Yes. And that is. >> Okay. Yes. And. >> yeah. What I my old improv chops are. coming back up in the moment. Um but. what what I worry about is I worry that. we're going to get so frustrated with. all the things that Trump and MAGA are. doing that we become as a movement this. mirror reverse image of MAGA, right? Which is where all we're doing is trying.

to piss them off instead of trying to. help people. And that's where this. grievance politics that the Republicans. have embraced, I think, makes it hard. for them to legislate, which is what I. was talking about earlier, right? >> I had a I had a a content creator on my. show a couple months ago, and she said, "I want to elect a Democratic president. that stays up late at night in front of. a fire twirling brandy and thinking. about ways to piss off the Republicans.". And and I I reframe that for her, at. least at how I see it, is I want a. Democratic president and I want a. Democratic Congress that has the will. and the ability and the understanding of. power that they're staying up late at.

night thinking about how to help people. not go bankrupt when they get sick, not. be drowning in student loan debt, be. able to buy a house, take a vacation, start a family, etc. And if it also. pisses off Donald Trump and the MAGA. movement, that's great, but it's a. bonus. And so I think to your point, we. can't fully lose our soul. But I do. think we have to be tougher and we have. to understand that we are playing. against cheaters. We are playing against. people who do not care about the average. American and we also have to deliver for. folks. I I love Joe Biden, but a lot of. Bidenism was predicated on the idea of.

having a second term to continue that. work so that people could see it. And by. the way, he inherited an absolute mess. under after Donald Trump and COVID and. and the economy and everything like. that. But we've got to make sure that. people feel the impact of our actions. every single day and we're actually. delivering for them. And I don't want. any American to ever be wondering what. the Democratic party has done for them. lately. And unfortunately, you look at. the focus groups and the polling data, that's how people see us. They're like, "Oh, good, well-intentioned people. They're fighting for other people, not. for me. They're delivering for other.

people, not for me." And some of that's. true and some of it's not. But we have. to fix that perception the next time. we're in office, which I believe will be. sooner rather than later. Otherwise, we're just going to elect an even worse. version of Donald Trump, you know, four. years from now, five years from now. >> No, I agree with you. I want if they if. I piss them off, great. But I want them. to have health care. I want the minimum. wage for everybody, not just Democrats, to be raised. I want everybody to be. able to live with dignity and have a. live livable wage. And whether that. pisses off the Republicans or not,

that's just a bonus. And I feel like the. incremental nature of Joe Biden's. presidency, which was consequential. in terms of legislation that it it just. didn't go fast enough and it wasn't. marketed enough. And I'll die on this. hill. Why we did not put Donald Trump behind. bars under the Biden administration, I'm. afraid, was the biggest failure. That. that that's going to cloud that. presidency forever. that we didn't. appoint a special or that Biden didn't.

appoint a special counsel January 21st. to look into all of his crimes, but we. could go on forever. You have a real. job, a real podcast. I need to let you. off, but I just want to thank you for. coming. Thank you for the AI stuff. because that is something that I have a. real blind spot for. And I think you're. right. I think as we get further and. further into this, we're going to see. the best and worst of it. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, thank you for having. me and I appreciate the opportunity to. talk about AI. Nobody ever asks me about. it. I really was grateful for that to be.

[laughter] honest with you. >> All right. Bye-bye, Mike. [music].