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All right, listener. We are living in an. incredibly dangerous time where we are. told if we criticize something we see. with our eyes, read, or hear with our. ears, that somehow we are bigoted. And. this type of suppression of speech and. free thought is incredibly dangerous. And here to discuss this with me is my. friend Jason Stanley. He is a professor. of American studies and philosophy at. the University of Toronto's Monk School. He is the author of several books, including "Erasing History: How Fascists.

Rewrite the Past to Control the Future". and "How Fascism Works." And for. everybody in the New York area, he has. an event in Brooklyn on March 26th. And. I think now is the best time on the. planet to go support experts, actual. smart people. And that actual smart. person, Professor Stanley, how are you. today? >> Good. How are you, Jennifer? >> Uh you know, hanging in there, talking. with you, and having this community.

helps a lot because I think it's. important that we feel a sense of unity. and togetherness that we're not insane. But I want to talk to you about what's. happening um with Israel. It really. bothers me that there is a lot out in. Western media right now that if we. criticize Israel and the actions that. they are taking, that somehow we are. anti-Semitic. This is very disturbing. You and I texted about this, and we. decided you needed to come on to talk to.

my viewers about this. Please enlighten. us about what's going on here. >> Yeah, I mean, this is the agenda of the. state of Israel. And it seems bizarrely. uh to be the agenda of the Trump regime. Uh and let's be clear, by any stretch of. the imagination, to equate criticism of. Israel with anti-Semitism. is anti-Semitic. That is anti-Semitism. Uh. take the International Holocaust. Remembrance Alliance definition of.

anti-Semitism, which is very. restrictive. We all criticize it. It It. definitely, um, bans certain kinds of legitimate. criticisms of Israel, one could say. But, let's look at it. According to this. restrictive definition, uh, calling. criticism of Israel anti-Semitic is. anti-Semitic. It says, "Holding Jews. collectively responsible for actions of. the state of Israel is anti-Semitic.". So, it is anti- If you say that.

criticism of Israel is anti-Semitic, uh, what you're saying is that, "Well, if. you criticize Israel, uh, you are. criticizing Jews." So, it's anti-Semitic. uh, to say that if you're criticizing. Israel, uh, you're you're uh, you're. criticizing Jews. You're being. anti-Semitic. In other words, here's a. shock. The Trump regime is anti-Semitic. Here's another characterization of. anti-Semitism. "Accusing Jewish citizens of being more.

loyal to Israel or to the alleged. priorities of Jews worldwide than to the. interests of their own nation is. anti-Semitic." Well, pretty much every. American administration, uh, str- in my lifetime has been. anti-Semitic according to this. definition. They constantly tell us that. we Americans, uh, uh, that our primary. and chief protector is Israel, rather. than the countries, uh, whose passports.

we hold, rather than the countries, uh, in which we live, and to whom we have a. primary allegiance. So, unsurprisingly, this entire campaign, Israel, it's. obvious why Israel is waging this. anti-Semitic campaign against we Jews in. the diaspora, against we Jews, uh, who. live outside of Israel and have other. nationalities because they have their. own their a foreign nation who has their. own interests in mind. They don't care.

about us Jewish people who live in. America or who live in Canada. They want. us to come to Israel. So they don't they they're anti they're. by the International Holocaust. Remembrance Alliance. they're anti-Semitic and let's be clear. about who's who is advocating for these. anti-Semitic policies that are interests. in the state that are in the interest of. the state of of Israel. It's Christian. nationalists.

>> Yes. >> What what are the interests of Christian. nationalists? The interests of Christian. nationalists are to make the United. States a Christian nation to make me and. my family into foreigners in our own. nation. >> Yes and I I mean I grew up in a. Christian nationalist state and they're. rapture preppers. I mean their plans for. Jewish people are inherently. anti-Semitic because you were to be in. Israel so that Jesus can come down and. say you're on my team and if you say no. I'm I'll pass you're going to burn in.

hell forever. But this is what's so. horrific about Benjamin Netanyahu who is. a war criminal. This man is a homicidal. maniac that we're told we cannot. critique. And here is I think one of the. more dangerous spokespeople. who. in in the United States which is. Jonathan Greenblatt and I think he is. doing more damage to Jews worldwide and. to independent thought and to.

intellectual inquiry than hardly anybody. out there and here he is conflating. criticism of Israel. meaning it's criticism of Jewish people. which leaves people like you and all of. the Jewish people in America completely. unsafe. Play the clip. >> Look at what happened. in the days after the US and Israel. launched the military operations against. Iran. I mean, whatever your views on the. conflict might be and reasonable people.

can hold very reasonable differences. What happened next. was not about policy. It wasn't about. geopolitics. It was about blame. And the blame. as it so often does. was placed at the feet of. who else? The Jews.

For some, they pointed fingers at the. Israelis who they claimed whispered a. few too many times in President Trump's. ear. >> Okay, that's good. President Trump admitted that Benjamin. Netanyahu. convinced him to go to war. And so this. conflation right there where he is. trying to emotionally blackmail somebody. who is politically engaged and watching.

what's happening in the world. When you. see Benjamin Netanyahu, a video of him. pathologically lying super cut over 40. years. Iran's going to have a nuke. tomorrow. Iran's going to have a nuke in. a month. Iran's going to have a nuke. And then after he finally convinces. Trump the most idiotic US president to. do this, when he finally convinces him, he says, "This has been my dream come. true for 40 years." And then this guy. Jonathan Greenblatt wants to tell us.

that we can't believe what we what these. people are telling us, what Trump and. Benjamin Netanyahu have told us that. they colluded to do this illegal, horrific war where I would think if. Jonathan Greenblatt were so all about. human rights. Does he mention the little. girls that were shot with a Tomahawk. missile? Does he mention all the kids. that his. Benjamin Netanyahu kills with impunity? And it seems to me like this feature of. IDF mission where people get killed in.

schools and in hospitals. It is a. feature, not a bug of their military. provocations. And it's coupled with all. of this horrific, dangerous propaganda. that leaves you realizing, holy. Jews are going to be so unsafe because. of this dangerous propaganda. >> First of all, let me say that. right now my principal concern. is with the people being bombed by the.

United States and Iran. So, and Israel. So, let me just state that. clearly that my concern is with who we. are killing. But obviously this makes us unsafe. And. look at what Jonathan Greenblatt said. Jonathan Greenblatt said that people are. collectively blaming Jews. That's. anti-Semitic to to blame Jews for the. actions of the state of Israel. But. who's responsible for for for connecting.

Who's responsible for anti-Semitism? Who's spreading anti-Semitism? Jonathan. Greenblatt is the primary spreader of. anti-Semitism in the United States. today. He's the one who connects my. people with Israel with with and and. with Bibi Netanyahu who. has been in power for almost as long as. Vladimir Putin. This is not a democracy. This is a best.

competitive authoritarianism. So, you know, Bibi Netanyahu is not a. Democrat. He's part of this cabal of. autocrats, Putin, Trump, and and some others. And this is not a. democracy we're partnering with. We are. full partners with Israel in a war and. you and John Jonathan Greenblatt is. going around saying, "You can't say. that. You can't say that we're under the.

influence of a foreign nation." Look, I. am as pro-Ukrainian as we can get as you. can get. I have a position at the Kyiv. School of Economics. I go to Ukraine. every year to support the people of. Ukraine in their battle against this war. of aggression by Russia. But this is a. war of aggression. This violates. international law. Now, it's its targets. are well, Lebanon is is. is a kind of bystander target, the.

people of Lebanon to this. Of course, Hezbollah uh. not, but the people of Lebanon are. And. and it's obvious that Israel influ-. which is let me. point out a foreign nation. Israel is. influencing the policy of the United. States, deeply influencing. Now, of. course, Israel has long been influencing. the policy of the United States, but. this is a particularly egregious. example. And what Jonathan Greenblatt is.

saying is, "You're not allowed to say. that." Now, if you look at that on pain. of being accused of anti-Semitism, when. he is the one connecting my people uh to. a genocide. He's connecting my people to. massive human rights violations. I'm a. German Jew. My great-grandfather was the. cantor at the Fasanenstraße synagogue. between 1912 and 1938. And the rabbi was.

Leo Baeck. For much of that time was Leo. Baeck. And he Leo Baeck wrote this book. The Essence of Judaism where he said. what pointed out man is in the image of. God. We are created in the image of God, all. of us. Leo Baeck My tradition is the. German Jewish tradition Haskalah Moses. Mendelssohn. In that tradition we are. universalists. We when we we stand for. social justice for humanity. And.

Jonathan Greenblatt is attacking the. entire tradition that my. great-grandfather and family stood for. So. when I when when I see that people say. you know German Jews they got what was. coming to them. They were passive. victims. My grandmother went into. Sachsenhausen and saved hundreds of. people because these were her fellow. countrymen Jewish. labor union activists.

And and she saved them because they were. her fellow countrymen. She was not some. sort of weak victim. You know German Jews. had some of the highest achievements of. human civilization and then there was. they faced European anti-Semitism that. said that they what did Hitler say? Hitler said Jews were a nation within a. nation. They were really loyal to. something else. Well, what are we being. told now? That if you criticize Israel.

if you point out the very clear fact. that Israel that that Israel is pushing. this anti-Semitic narrative that if you. attack it you're attacking Jews. You are. buttressing the worst form of. anti-Semitism in history. And then. you are you are connecting us to massive. human rights violations something which. violates the essence of Judaism. You know, throughout the 20th century,

Jews have been at the forefront of have. been partners with other groups and. their partners, many of us are partners. today with the Palestinian people. defending the Palestinian people and. associating us with a regime that is led. by an autocrat that is clearly. committing atrocities that is an. apartheid state you know, that is that. discriminates.

in its laws and certainly in its. practices against other people because. they do not share an identity. That is. not in that is not consistent. I don't. want that identified with my people. I don't want that connected my with my. people and let's be clear what the ADL. is doing is setting up anti-Semitism. They are pushing anti-Semitic tropes and. they're using my people, my identity to. attack democracy.

and democracy, universal human rights, those are the things that made us Jewish. people free. We suffered 1500 years of. anti-Semitism in Europe. We had the most. brutal treatment possible and the times. that have freed us, the times that gave. us most freedom were when liberalism and. universal human rights gave us rights. again. After World War II in Europe, we had. rights again. We had equal rights again.

And so when I see this person attacking. liberalism in the name of Judaism, I ask. myself, when have the Jewish people been. protected by attacking human rights? Human rights have been the things that. have saved us. They protected us from. the Nazis, they defended us from the the. groups came in that protected us, protected us in the name of liberalism. Our brief moment of freedom and liberty.

in the 19th century and early 20th. century was because of universal human. rights. And here we have the ADL. attacking the very thing that freed us. >> It's it's really stunning. because I believe very firmly in. universal human rights, which is why. when I see people on the right, like. Tucker Carlson or Marjorie Taylor. Greene, that are criticizing the United. States, that are criticizing Israel, but. then.

Marjorie Taylor Greene has a sign. outside of her office that says there. are only two genders. And Tucker Carlson. 3 weeks ago was on his podcast referring. to gay men as. And so I can deduce from that that this. person quantifies which people are. important and which people aren't. And. that's not good enough. That that means. you're going to leave a group off to the. side that's going to be vulnerable. And. the way I see it right now, when I hear. there's a rise in anti-Semitism, I. agree. I've seen that. But I also think.

it is intellectually dishonest to not. say there is also a massive rise in. anti-immigrant bigotry. And these people. are being put into camps, served food. with worms, some of them are being shot, people are dying in detention, and this. seems to be something that should be the. top news story, and somebody that John. like Jonathan Greenblatt should be. screaming at the top of his lungs to. fight this injustice. But instead,

there's always this desire to quantify. which human rights in a in you know, rank them in order, and that's always. just a huge red flag to me about who you. can trust in this fight. >> Jonathan Greenblatt is a is a fascist. So, you know, that's what he is. So, you. know, and he shills for fascism and he. uses my people's identity uh to shill. for fascism. We're not fascists. Uh who. in the world appointed the ADL uh as the.

as anti-fascists? And they were using. that uh I mean, you know, I mean, I. don't know if it's Jonathan Greenblatt, I don't know if it's long baked into the. structure of ADL, but whatever is. happening with the ADL, that's a fascist. organization right now. Uh they're in. danger And and as you say, uh they're. they're trying to switch the narrative. uh from uh from fascism, uh from from. xenophobia, uh from anti-LGBTQ. uh uh. laws, uh attacks, uh from Islamophobia.

They're trying to intentionally shift. the conversation. And on whose behalf. are they trying to shift the. conversation? Uh on behalf of a foreign. nation. And and I don't get it. You. know, the. We're allowed to talk about Russia's. influence. Why can't we talk about. Israel's influence? And then you look at. uh you look at the discourse in the. mainstream media. Not you. One reason I.

wanted to come on this podcast is you. tell it like it is. You and you are. protecting Jewish people. by by so doing. But why can't we we. mention it if if you don't mention. Israel, what Greenblatt is saying you. mention Israel the ADL will come after. you. Uh you know, uh so you better talk. about this war of aggression where the. United States is fully partnering with. Israel, not just like in some. theoretical way, not just by spying them.

bombs as we've always done, supplying. them with munitions, but by fully. partnering with them. What Jonathan. Greenblatt is say is saying is if you. mention Israel, then we will go after. you. Uh now you cannot talk about this. war without mentioning Israel. It makes. no sense. It's an emperor has no clothes. moment, right? I mean. you listen to the media and like well. the the the cause for the war it's very. mysterious why we're doing it. Whose benefit? Nobody's benefit. It's.

it's really unclear. It's perfectly clear. Who wants Iran to. be a failed state? Reason backwards from. the goals of this war. They're trying to. make Iran a failed state. In what whose. country's interest in that is that? It's. not in the interest of Bahrain. It's not. in the interest of of a bunch of places. they're saying it's in the interest in. It's in the interest of one country. It's in the interest of Israel. Bahrain, Saudi Arabia, they want stability in the.

region. They Israel wants to be. surrounded by failed states. But you're. not allowed to say that. So. and and anyone any coverage that doesn't. mention Israel pri as one of as one of. the primary causes. I don't deny that. Trump is doing this for domestic reasons. as well. But if you can't mention. Israel, you're not talking about the. war. And we have to hold the media to. account for that. We have to make sure.

like it is watching American media and. right now is surreal. Because. >> It's surreal. It's really. >> Did you see the interview with the. governor of Pennsylvania, Josh Shapiro? And he was on Pod Save America. And. those guys are. I like those guys. They're independent. voices. But he they asked him about. Gavin Newsom's statement that um. that there's a apartheid state with. Israel and Palestine. And they asked.

Josh Shapiro. And he goes on this word. salad answer. And he goes, "Well, and. it's nuanced and we have to provide. space." And it's like, this is why. people. cannot stand politics right now, and. there's a fear of everybody descending. in denialism. We need politicians and. experts to say, 100% it's an apartheid. state. Every all of these organizations. were 25 deep end, they all agree, the. science is in, the conclusion is there, shut the up and let's move on to. the next thing. But when you have.

people that argue facts, I think that is. so dangerous, and that's what fascism. does that drives me the most crazy is it. allows a uh the electorate to argue. facts, is climate change real? It does. vac- do vaccines cause autism? All this. where we dismantle expertise, and. then you have a governor. of Pennsylvania. who cannot admit the obvious. It is a. layup question, and he can't admit it, and then he tells the audience that it's. so nuanced and it's so difficult to.

understand, and I bought into that for a. long time, Jason. And it's really not. nuanced. It's really not hard to. understand. It is an apartheid state. Benjamin Netanyahu is a war criminal. It. is a genocide. They are massive human. rights violators. They are buying off. both political parties with influence. All of those are facts that should not. be disputed. >> Yeah. I mean. if Israel is not engaging in apartheid, then. the term has no meaning. So, you know, I.

mean so now now I think that there there. are various moves people make. They're. like, well, every country is a settler. colonial state started as this Canada is. United States is, but Canada and the. United States are not right now. doing a genocide against indigenous. people. They're not right now doing. those practices that they did in the. founding of our nations, of Canada and.

the United States. Right now, Israel is. doing to Palestinians. the existential crime that the United. States and Canada did to their. indigenous people. We like to think that. we wouldn't do that right now. So, the question is not what happened at. the Nakba, what happened at the. founding. That's a move people make to. deflect criticism. Right now, we are. watching. a genocide of indigenous people. Right. now, we're watching what happened on the.

Trail of Tears. So, so, you know, it is. nothing to do with the past. We need to. stop these actions right now. And it's. just like it it is. beyond. surreal. Again, just to repeat myself, the American media is like Russia right. now. Like, you know, the. head-scratching. Why are we doing this? Why in whose interests in the is the is. this? When everyone and everyone is.

being is scared of this anti-Semitic. conflation of. of. saying my people are somehow are. connected. to the actions of this apartheid state. run by a genocidal autocratic maniac. When my people are actually. you know, Hitler took us as synonymous with. universal human rights. The Protocols of.

the Elders of Zion, the most. anti-Semitic document of the 20th. century, says we are responsible, we. Jewish people are responsible for for. liberalism. The connection between. liberalism and Jews is not only within. Jewishness itself, it's central to to. real. our our lives, our traditions, our. safety. It's why we were attacked. So, uh you know,

I'm just not seeing why and then this is. supposed This is supposed to be a free. country where we see even Democratic. governors. not stating obvious facts about foreign. nations. This is a foreign nation. Uh, why is it that you're allowed to say. "Oh, Russia is Russia which is an evil. country right now.". Why is it you know, people condemn.

Russia as a foreign nation for. interviewing intervening in our. politics? What? I mean, it is And then when you have that kind. of complete distortions of reality, distortion, when you're not allowed to. say the emperor has no clothes. >> Mhm. >> Then. then. you can't have democracy. >> Agreed. >> You clearly can't have You can't have.

public discourse based on truth. Propaganda involves not just saying true. things, it involves omitting true things. as well. So, what we have in the United. States is a complete propaganda. environment and propaganda. machine. The ADL is central to the cogs. of that attack on democracy. They're They're central to propping up. fascism. Uh, because what they're doing.

is they're saying "You know, we we can. only have a propagandistic discussion in. this country. We cannot We cannot state. obvious truths." And then we see a lot. of the mainstream media people just You. can see why this completely distorts the. discussion of Iran. Who's Who's out. there talking about Iran? People head. scratching. What is going on? Here are. seven different theories as to this. mysterious thing that's going on. In.

other words, we can't have a public. discussion about our own actions as a. nation. >> And this is why I want to have you on. because this notion that's being pitched. to the American people that Jewish. people all believe this one thing is so. intellectually dishonest and more than. that, it's dangerous. And so I want to. highlight your voice and other voices. within the Jewish community as the as to. the dangers you face because of this. propaganda. Tell my listeners about your.

event in Brooklyn on March 26th. >> So, the paperback edition of my book. Erasing History is is coming out. This. book was published in September 2024 in. anticipation of what we were going to. face. Uh. and and it's about the attack on. history, the attack on perspectives, uh. including Palestinian perspectives. Uh I talk about the history of that. attack, the wiping out the claims that. members of the Israeli government do.

that there are no such thing as a. Palestinian people, and the attack on. black history in the United States. So, Erasing History comes out in paperback. today and this is its launch event with. Nicole Hannah Jones. Uh and it's at St. Ann's Church in in Brooklyn. Nicole. Hannah Jones is the ideal person to be. speaking about the attack on history. Her work Her work is really a. contribution. to to to American patriotism. She's.

saying uh part of the it's central to. the tale of American democracy, uh the actions of black Americans are. central to the successes of American. democracy. They're central to the story. of progress that we as a nation have. made. And then she was attacked for. being anti-American. Why was she. attacked for being anti-American? Because she was saying black people had. agency in America's progress and ideals.

So, it's not going to be like a book launch. event where she asked me questions about. the book. It's really going to be. an event where I ask Nicole Hannah-Jones. about her experiences. and we have in this fascist attack. on on on black history and her role in. in the historical moment today, which I. believe is is very central. She's. mentioned in these executive orders. and and she's a target of these. initiatives. And it's going to be a.

discussion about the inside workings. of the attack on history that are in the. attack on factuality that we're. discussing today with one of the central. targets of this fascist attack, Nicole. Hannah-Jones. >> Um Jason, you are so brave. I love it. I. love that she's mentioned in these. executive orders and you're not going to. obey in advance and you'll continue to.

preach our free expression, our free. speech and call a spade a spade and cut. through the propaganda. I think it's so. important. I think voices like yours, experts, um telling us what is happening. here is so important. So, thank you. You. know you're welcome on my podcast. anytime. When you're in New York next. week, let's collab in person again. Let's run it back. >> wonderful. And thank you for what you. do. >> Thank you, Jason.