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Okay, joining me today on I hit news is. Tom Steyer an investor, climate activist. and progressive Democratic candidate for. governor of California. How are you. today? >> Great Jennifer, just great. >> Okay. You're billionaire. Everybody knows. that. Everybody knows who all the. billionaires are. And I have a theory. about billionaires. And I think that they all are suffering. from some sort of like psychosis. >> I don't think that's fair.

>> They seem nuts. They all seem absolutely batshit crazy. So Tom, are you suffering from this. billionaire psychosis? Are you a crazy. person? >> So let me say this Jennifer. >> Okay. >> I'm going to start with no, but of. course I'm not objective about it. >> Of course. >> I didn't inherit any money. I started a business in one room with no. windows. It worked out well. I walked. away from it 14 years ago leaving. billions of dollars on the table. And my. wife and I took a pledge that we would. give the money away while we're alive.

So any money that I made from business. is going to go to the progressive causes. that I'm talking about in my run for. governor. And I we've been doing it for. 14 years for me full-time. But Kat's. been doing it forever and we I I was. doing it when I was you know running in. a business. So let me say this. I think if you're addicted to money, you. are batshit crazy. I go along with that. And I think it's critical and I think. that Katherine and I aren't addicted to.

money. In fact, we're addicted to. getting rid of it in the ways that have. the most positive impact. And I don't. think that's batshit crazy and I think. it's exactly in line. with the way I was brought up. My mom. was a school teacher in Harlem and then. when she retired from being the public. schools, she taught in prison. My dad was a lawyer. He worked he was in. the Navy and after World War II, they. drafted him to be one of the prosecutors. of the Nazis at Nuremberg. My brother's. of as a career. of being an advocate for at-risk kids.

So, I believe that I come from a family. whose values are very much about giving. back. And that's exactly what my wife Kat. Taylor and I are doing. So, I think if. you're addicted to money, you are. batshit crazy. I think it's a sickness, and I think you can see it very, very. clearly in a lot of these people. But, I also think just as an example, you know, Warren Buffett's giving all. his money away. >> Yes. >> And and I've you know, I wouldn't say. I'm a friend of Warren's, but I. certainly know him and respect him, and. I've been to Omaha. He lives like a.

normal person, and he doesn't want. >> him at like the billionaire water. fountain? Like, "Hey Warren, are you giving". The billionaire water fountain, you. know, like the. >> [laughter]. >> "Hey Warren, how much are you giving. away?". >> No, but but my only point being. Look, you can let things twist you. You can. let yourself start to think about. yourself as different, or you can choose. to control it and try and stay a good. person. >> Okay, you're talking about something. that I think is super important, and. this is a cultural moment for us, Tom.

And it is that the this particular. billionaire class, I call them the. billionaire bed-wetters. >> [laughter]. >> Cuz they if you look on Elon Musk's. timeline, it is bed-wet city. Somebody. needs to get that man a diaper. I have. never seen such a titty baby complaining. who's almost a goddamn trillionaire. And. then you go to the guy that Zoran called. out who has the $257 million. pied-à-terre.

And I thought, "What a moment for this. man. to call the mayor and say, 'Hey, you're. right. The system is kind of messed up. I have a penthouse who's you know, that's worth $250 million. I agree with. you. I'm going to set an I agree with. you. I'm going to set an example. I'm. going to fly on my private plane to New. York. I'm going to sit down and I'm. going to write you a check to fund these. kids, these working-class kids that need. child care. >> Absolutely. >> doesn't do that. Instead, he gets on. camera and he wets the bed. And it's. that culture of entitlement when they.

already have so much. that it's easy to hate these. individuals. Like it's easy to hate. Elon, it's easy to hate um. Peter Thiel because they're such dicks. But beyond that, it's a cultural. problem. >> Well, Jennifer, can I say this? >> Yes. >> They hate me. You'll be happy to know. >> I'm relieved. >> that when the seven. candidates, leading candidates for. governor of California were on the. stage, they asked if you were going to.

tax billionaires and one person said. yes. And you're looking at the one person. I've been saying for a long time, we. need to be taxing billionaires like me. more. We need to be taxing the big. corporations more. California's an. incredibly successful state on average. We have the highest poverty rate in the. United States of America. Something's. not right. And so. >> would happen to your net worth if you. were taxed more? Would you feel that? >> No. I would have The only thing I could say,

Jennifer, is. maybe I'd have less money to give away, but it wouldn't change. Look, so my my. mom and dad I told you about my mom and. dad. My grandfather was a research. doctor and a professor. Never made more. than 2,800 bucks in a year. My. grandmother hated him for it. She's. like, George, you could make a lot more. money. >> [laughter]. >> if you go into private practice. He. didn't want to. And so he he they lived in Minneapolis. And when I was like 40 years old, my mom was visiting us and I said, "Hey.

Mom, do we have a nicer house than the house. you grew up in. in Minneapolis where her father was a. professor at the University of. Minnesota?" And she goes, "I think you have a nicer staircase.". It's exact We live exactly same way. And that's exactly how I like to live. I. love California and California's. expensive, but I don't want to live. differently from the way my grandparents. lived or my parents lived. I don't want. to be someone who's isolated from human.

beings, you know, the joy, the privilege and the education of being. a candidate is getting out and meeting. Californians face-to-face all over this. incredibly diverse state and learning. about them and learning how great they. are. And that has been People say, "Is. this hard?" And I'm like, I am having a ball. I am meeting so many. great people and learning, you know, and.

I'll give you an example, you know, there was a terrible. tragedy yesterday at the Islamic Center. of San Diego. >> Yeah. >> It's terrible. Just so you know, we had been down to San Diego. at a different mosque right near there. last week. We were in touch with those people. That community had endorsed me. I got a chance to meet a whole bunch of. people that was. such a treat, such a positive. experience,

and you realize how great. the people are across this state. And. that is So, when you say what it That's. that's the thing that I. treasure. It's It's important to do. because you really need to look people. in the eye and know what their issues. are, know what is not happening for. them, knowing what they need for. government to make their life better. But it's also amazingly reassuring to. understand how great these people are. across so many We're such a. rainbow coalition in this state and it.

is just so fun. It is just ridiculously. fun. >> And how important is it for you to. platform universal human rights, to. stand up against Islamophobia, antisemitism, transphobia, uh anti-black racism, all the same. That. they're all interconnected, cuz I see. some politicians, particularly. Democrats, that are capitulating, mainstream. centrist Democrats are capitulating.

some right-wing narratives. Like, oh, we. shouldn't talk about the bathroom, or we. see this rise here and we're not going. to, you know, squash this one down. To. me, they're all intricately. connected. And I think diversity. protects us. and helps us cooperate and helps make a. better place for all of us to live. >> Well, Jennifer, just so you know, I'm. that score. Everybody's nice to you 90% of the time. Every politician is going to say mom, apple pie, the flag, you know, I'm.

absolutely 100% behind those. What you need is the person in the 10%. of the time when it's not popular to. say. And so, you know, I think it's critical. You talked about trans people. I'm. totally in favor of trans athletes in. high school. I I I think when you understand the. vulnerability, the stress, the danger. of being a trans kid, and you understand. that almost half of them try to commit. suicide. >> Yeah. >> And then you think we're going to punish.

those kids, we're going to cut them off. from team sports, we're going to cut. them off from participating in the. community, we're going to cut them off. from fun? It's like, no, we're not. No, we're not. And you know, as someone who played. sports my whole life and loved sports, and loved playing sports, there are more important things than. whether you start on your high school. basketball team. And that is standing up for people who. are under threat of death. And so, if you want, you know, and so. there's a perfect example, but so is the.

example in terms of, you know, Islamophobia. Look, clearly yesterday was a story. of two very young people who were. absolutely controlled by hate. And absolutely, you know, I I think if. you look at that story, the way I. understand it is they went out to kill. the kids. They went out to kill the kids in a. school. And because they were Muslim. And one of the guys there who was a. security guard basically saved those.

kids and died. And it's like, come on. As much as those kids, those killers who. committed suicide, were consumed with. hate, that guy did an amazing job and stood up. at the cost of his life for the lives of. innocent kids. And isn't that great? >> Yeah. >> And so, you know, as I look at it, I. view this as I'm standing up for. people, you know, standing up for. immigrants. under threat from ICE. I mean, I've I.

I'm the person I think I'm the first. person that's right to say we should be. abolishing ICE. There's no excuse for. criminal organization. >> And what about prosecute ICE? >> I'm Look, I've said I don't know if. you've had I hope you've had a chance to. spend hours and hours, maybe days, going. over. >> I pulled an all-nighter, Tom. >> Jennifer, >> [laughter]. >> but yeah, on my website I've said we. should abolish ICE. It's a criminal. organization that. racially profiles and victimizes. [clears throat] and terrorizes.

communities. But I can't just sign a pen and do that, but I have said um. we should be prosecuting ICE agents for. racial profiling, which is illegal in. California. We should be prosecuting ICE. agents for committing violence against. Californians, that's illegal. And we. should go up the chain. We should go up. the chain to whoever is sending them, as. far as it goes. If you're sending. someone out to do violence, you're doing. violence. And then if it goes to Stephen. Miller's, that's the way it goes. >> That's where my brain went. So, let's talk about this, Tom.

Obviously, I think we're probably in. 100% agreement that Donald Trump is an. incompetent, dementia-ridden fascist who. is just horrible. I mean, and I know. that's funny. It's just not that deep. It is what it is what it is. So, the states are going to have a lot. of power because accountability is going. to come. It It is going to come. I. believe ultimately that the American. people, even some of those that voted. for him, are fed up.

And this is a a criminal regime. And the. state. >> is. >> The states are going to have power and. the accountability that a federal pardon. might not. cover. And so, as it pertains to all of. this Trump stuff. and protecting California, you know, he. likes to play um. "If you're not nice to me, I'm not going. to give you federal funds." He likes to. play those types of childish, cruel,

evil games. How does a governor, Tom. Steyer, stand up. to a. petulant, idiotic Trump? >> We fight. We stand up to him. We use every. instrument we can. We use the courts. We use public opinion. And you know, Jennifer, I will remind. you as an American um. of what Thomas Jefferson said at the. beginning of the 1800s when the Barbary. pirates were bedeviling American.

shipping and they were they wanted uh. ransom money basically. And he said, "Millions for defense, not one penny for tribute.". When people are trying to blackmail you, don't pay. Stand up for your principles, and that's. what we're going to do. You know, I think that. we don't have a choice. Giving in for. money. to someone who is basically extorting. you, and what you're talking about is. extortion. >> Mhm.

>> Do what I want, or you don't get what. you are owed. >> Mhm. >> That's what he's saying. He's holding up. FEMA payments to the people in Altadena. and Pacific Palisades for a fire that. took place last January. >> So, does the governor, Tom Steyer, does. he say, "Okay, you do that, I'm not. sending the federal funds that we've. we're collecting in income taxes?". >> We will push every single way we can, Jennifer. That we what we can see is someone who. is extorting Look, I don't know if you.

remember this. Um I'm sure you spent also did an. all-nighter studying how great this was. Um in 2017 and 2018, I put together. something called Need to Impeach, and we. got 8 million signatures saying, "This. is a criminal who's stealing from us. every day.". >> Yeah. >> And he hates America, and he wants to. end it. And you know, no one was happy The. Democratic Party was mad at me because. they felt like they had this under. control. We know how to handle this guy. You're muddying the waters with And I. was like, "Wow, seems to me like the sooner we.

stop this guy, the better. And if we. wait, >> Right. >> this could really get out of control.". But I'm just saying, I haven't changed. my opinion. I mean, he is the person behind ICE. He is the person who conceived of that. and is sending masked assault. rifle-armed people around the country to. terrorize. And do I think that's over? I. think that's just beginning. My My rule. on Trump, Jennifer, is he only gets. worse.

>> Agreed. >> think you've seen the bottom, I assure. you, wait till tomorrow. Today is his. best day until he's not no longer. president. Every day he's going to get. worse, and if you give in to him, your. question was, "Do you give in for money? Do you give. up your values for money? Do you You. were asking about standing up for trans. kids, standing up for immigrants, standing up. for the black community, standing up for. Latinos, and you're saying, "Do you. believe in that, or do you believe it.

when it's in your interest you should. throw them under the bus?". >> Mhm. >> If this I don't believe in giving up on. the values of California. I'm doing this. to stand up for working people and the. values. that seem to me like the traditional. American values, democracy, liberty, hard work and success, inclusion. I I'm talking about shared prosperity. for everyone in the state of California. He's throwing people off Medicaid and. Medi-Cal so that he can give tax breaks. to the billionaires and the biggest.

corporations. That is the exact opposite. of what I stand for. That you could not. more perfectly describe someone who. believes healthcare is a right for every. Californian. and someone who cuts healthcare for. millions of people so that he can give. tax breaks to his cronies. >> So, I've noticed that you, and this. happened to me. So, I was pretty. liberal, and then after a couple of. Trump terms, I've gotten more. left. And some people can say I've been.

radicalized, but I say I've been kind of. deprogrammed off of the corporate. messaging and the way Democrats are. supposed to be. I What has happened to. you? >> that, Jennifer. >> Have you been deprogrammed? >> I think so. That is a great point, and. I've never thought of it that way, but. let me say this. So, look, if you look. at me, I went to Stanford Business. School. I started a business from scratch and. ran it for 27 years. I mean, I was. inculcated with this sense. that democracy and capitalism is what.

gives people freedom and gives people. material success. And what I can see, as. I'm deprogrammed, I may steal that word, although I I don't know. >> You can have it. >> You can have it. But as I've sort of. seen more of life close up, I can see where corporate special. interests are taking advantage of. working people. I can see where they're. trying to buy our democracy in. California, where they're trying to buy. the people running for governor. They're. successfully. control you know, they're successfully. controlling um outcomes. The oil.

companies in California are trying to. gut. the cap and invest program that's been. there since 2007. They're trying to. delay its progress for 5 to 10 years and. they think they're going to get away. with it. They're getting windfall. profits and they think they deserve them. and you know, my attitude is like your. costs didn't go up a penny. Donald Trump, the candidate you put in. the White House started a war in Iran. and now you're making an extra $70. billion. That doesn't seem right to me.

But there's no sense. In fact, the head. of the Western States. Petroleum Association, WSPA, which. represents all the big oil companies in. California, said in a meeting in Sacramento last. week that it was the fiduciary duty of. the oil companies to extract every penny. from us that they could at the pump. Wow. So, do I feel That's pretty gross. >> It's disgusting and here's what I think. is some really important messaging and I. want to run this by you. I'm not a.

political consultant, although I play. one on my podcast from time to time. Um. I think it's pretty unbelievable that. the Republican Party labels working. class people as moochers, as lazy, as. wanting government handouts. When I look. at these corporations. and the government handouts and. subsidies and tax breaks and loopholes, it seems to me like they are the ones. who are the moochers and who are the. parasites. Elon Musk and the government.

subsidies. is unbelievable. I saw an interview with. Tucker Carlson of all people recently. just browbeating Kevin O'Leary about. these tax breaks for these data. centers and it causes me great pain to. say this, but Tucker did an incredible. job dismantling. I say this it's very painful for me to. but he did a great job dismantling the. of the it goes back to that.

entitlement and the lies, Tom. The lies, I'm from Oklahoma City. I live in New. York now, but I lived there for 51. years. For my whole life Republicans. trot into these rural towns, suburban. towns and they lie to them. They say. wealth will trickle down. These. corporations deserve all this. Meanwhile, they just transfer. any sort of work or wages that these. people should have and pass it over to. these entitled bed-wetters and I have.

had it from top to bottom about it that. the Democrats are not just browbeating. this into the electorate. >> Look. I absolutely agree with what you just. said. My whole campaign is about. standing up. California's too expensive. for work working people to live in. anymore. >> Yeah. >> We need to take on the corporate special. interest. There's only one person taking. on the corporate special interest and. they're spending a record amount of. money against me and I can give you. examples of what you're talking about.

which is basically corporate welfare. >> Yes. >> That's what it is. They're sitting here. I go around California. I meet working. people. They work their asses off. >> Totally. >> very high integrity. You know, the they do jobs. for more than minimum wage, but not much. more. They're incredibly skilled and. incredibly demanding. And I listen to you know, if you think. about an oil company, okay, they don't. pay for their pollution. It's like it's true. They don't pay for.

the when they pollute the air and water. and make people sick. That's free. They. don't pay for their impact on the. climate. That's right. >> And we are spending 200 billion dollars. in Iran to protect oil. We The US. armed services are all about protecting. oil companies. They don't pay for it. The taxpayer pays for it. >> Mhm. >> So, do I feel. You know, and they're still much more. expensive without paying all those. costs. They're still much more expensive. than clean energy. It's It's nuts. But, the other thing in.

our state is we have legal monopolies. for electricity. And they charge us twice as much as the. average in in the United States of. America. Twice as much. And they're furious if they're spending. tens of millions of dollars against me. Because I'm like, "No, no, we're going. to introduce local competition." They're. like, "Competition? Are you crazy? Like, that's communist.". It's like, "Wow.". So, to a very large extent, my whole. campaign is about representing working. people to drive down costs that these. corporations are driving up. They're.

making record profits at the expense of. working people. And people can't afford. to live here anymore. And someone has to. take them on. And I'm the only person. who's doing it and who wants to tax the. billionaires, who wants the corporations. to pay their fair share, but also wants. to break the kind of structural, you know, monopolies that they've created for. themselves and that they're ringing. every dollar out of. >> So, do you think out of your opponents, you probably have, I would imagine, uh.

corporate Democrats, centrist Democrats. that are really terrified of you. exposing. uh the duplicity that I see that a lot. of corporate Democrats have, where they. take money from the same donors that. also donate to one Donald J. Trump and. the people who are buying into all of. this fascism. And here's the thing, Tom, I always say about these billionaires. How is it that you have all this. you money and you can't look at Trump. and say you. How is that? Like,

what's the point? And it sounds to me. like you're saying "Fuck you". to these people. >> Look, if you think getting 8 million. signatures to try and throw him out of. office in 2017 was. >> [laughter]. >> Look, Xavier Becerra, who's one of the other. leading candidates, Democratic, has. taken the maximum amount of money from. Chevron. He's taken. a ton of money from the other the second. biggest oil driller. He's said the oil. companies aren't bad guys. We need them,

and he's for more drilling more oil in. the state of California. And he has no. environmental policy. That's a Democrat. We had two fires yesterday in California. outside what is normally considered fire. season. We are definitely suffering from. the changes in the climate. The fires. are raising everybody's home insurance. rates. And there is no sense that that's just. something that happened we should deal. with. That's not true. We need somebody in the state who's. going to be pushing for the future of.

what's good for Californians, not being. paid to keep the status quo. And that is. exactly what is happening. And it's. amazing cuz we're heavily Democratic. state, it's happening with Democrats. That is. >> Yeah. >> So, you know, to a very large extent. what you're what you're saying is. the status quo doesn't work for working. people. And that's definitely true in. the state of California. And unless we. take on the people who run the status.

quo, which are these corporate special. interests, we're not going to change it. And. >> I agree. >> And we have to do that. I mean, I know. that. across the board. big political action committees. and and independent expenditures from. billionaires and big corporations are. dominating our politics, and people are. absolutely scared of them, and they. won't say boo. And it's. >> Don't you think that a lot of these. corporate Dems, obviously I'm going to. say I think Republicans are far worse. I.

lived in a Republican supermajority. state. It's not even close. I'm not one. of these people that says, "Oh, Kamala. Harris would have been the same thing as. Donald Trump." Kamala Harris. would be a million times better. I'm a. realist and a pragmatist about this. But I will say one point that I. will cede on, and that is that the. Democratic Party playing patty cake with. these donors like AIPAC, like Chevron, who ultimately want the Republican Party. because there's so much more such more. savages about, you know, everything and.

anything and they value profits over. everything. But these centrist Democrats that play. patty cake with the these same donors. helped prime the working-class. um. angst that fueled this fascist takeover. And I think we have to as Democrats call. out these do-nothing. uh donor-sucking. uh Democrats that take the same money. from. Palantir and all of the aforementioned.

PACs that I'm speaking about. >> But I think the other thing and I. I think I completely agree with what you. just said, Jennifer. And I want to say. this, for the last. I guess it's. 8 years, no, 10 years. >> Mhm. >> Democrats' basic point is. that the sort of status quo Democrats, we're not Donald Trump. It's like, "Okay, that's good. What are you?". What are you? And there's been no vision.

of what America's supposed to look like. that works for working people. And that's very much what I'm trying to. do in this campaign to talk about, how. are we going to make it possible for. working people to buy a house? We have to be able to do that. How are we going to make sure that. healthcare is a right that everybody. gets at a price they can afford? it. How. are we going to do that? That's why I'm. for single payer. But it goes right down the line of in. order to do some of these things, you're. going to have to take on the corporate. powers that be that have it their way.

Yeah. And if you're not willing to do. that, then what's your vision? Our. vision is sort of like. uh more of same, but we're not going to. be thieves and we're not actually. vicious. >> Agree. Okay, there's been some. pearl-clutching. uh recently over you. You were called. out for paying influencers to support. your campaign. Some of whom didn't disclose that they. were being paid. Do you think that there. is a double standard between Democrats. and Republicans doing this?

>> I don't know. You know, Jennifer, look, we never pay anybody for an endorsement. We pay people for their time if they're. doing work. We pay them. We disclose. every single part of that. The other. people who I'm running against do all of. this through independent expenditures. and disclose nothing. And so, we're exactly following the. rules and I have no apologies to make. for it. But I want to say this, this is. a different Honestly, this is a. diversionary tactic. Javier Becerra.

doesn't want to meet with reporters. He doesn't want to take questions from. Californians. He is running away from. any sort of scrutiny cuz he can't. withstand it. And they're trying to come. up with issues to like divert. And this. is a perfect example. Look, I want to. talk about what's going on with working. people in California. >> Mhm. >> I want to I will You know, this is an. attempt to change the subject from what. actually matters in California to. something that it's just a diversion.

from a campaign that has nothing to. offer. And they're the people pushing this. And. from my standpoint, it's like, look, why don't you tell us what your. environmental policy is? How about if you start tell us your. policy on regulating data centers? You know, what do you have to say about. APAC? >> Mhm. >> And they want to say, "No, no, no. This. is about. you know, how do you. do? No way.". >> I probably get a bunch of pushback. from the left on this, but here's what I.

like. Because I know how ruthless and. myopically focused on winning campaigns. Republicans are, and I think we have to. show up and we have to fight fire with. fire, and I think we put everything on. the table because democracy's on the. line, working-class Californians are on. the line. You're right, wages are just. horrifically low compared to what these. people that sit at desks, that make. hundreds of millions of dollars, sit. there and paperclip and staple and. highlight all day. And you have laborers.

out there working their asses off, and. they never get a raise. And I want to. just two more questions. Here's the. second to the last one. Why are you. better. than all of the other names that are. running in California? >> Cuz I have no conflicts. I'm 100%. committed to working-class people, and. I'm 100% committed to taking down. corporate special interests, and I've. been doing it successfully as a private. citizen. I have a long list of accomplishments.

including breaking these corporate. special interests at the ballot box. three times, huge, including the oil. companies, the tobacco companies, and. out-of-state companies. I have a long. history on every progressive issue in. this state of working for it. And I'm not taking money from any of. these people, and they're scared of me, and you can look and see. >> [clears throat]. >> the people who are spending money. against me, big oil companies, the. electric monopolies, the realtors, across the board big companies and. billionaires are spending tens of.

millions of dollars against me, and you. can look who's with me. The teachers, the nurses, the people who. work in restaurants, you know, the people, the the. workers, the home care workers, you know, across the board and every the. progressives are with me and every. environmentalist in the state. And it's. kind of like you look who's against me. They're not against anybody else. >> Mhm. >> Not one other person. They don't spend a. single penny against anyone else. I'm. their threat. And you look who's. supporting me. You know, that's who's.

supporting me. You know, just so you. know, the uh. the biggest Islamic Confederation in the. state of California CARE. has endorsed me. You know, across the board, the people. who are at risk, the people who need. support are endorsing me. Because there's one person in this state. who is not scared to take on the powers. that be. and is they know I will do it and I. won't give up and I won't quit in the. middle.

>> All right, last question. And I think. this is going to come with a big I've. had it podcast endorsement. But I just. want to ask you, can you still. back that ass up and break out into an. eight count with me? Kylie, play the. clip. I mean, I told you I did an all-nighter. I love this. I love it. Can you still back that ass. up, Governor? Do you promise more. backing up of the ass, Tom?

>> Jennifer, so first of all, I love to. dance. I love to have fun. California is. a state that has always been about. having. fun. And so, I don't want to turn this into. this joyless place. I love to have it, you know, literally I. played soccer through college and I went. out last weekend to play with some high. school kids. And every time my team is like, this is. going to be like, oh, this is going to. be terrible. But wasn't it enormously fun? So fun.

And so, am I going to quit having fun. and make this the I mean, think about. Trump. He is joyless. He has no sense of humor. >> No. >> I love to go like one of my favorite. things in this world is goofing with my. friends. I love to do that and I love to. goof with my kids and they're like, "Dad, seriously, you think you're. funny?" I'm like, "I am funny, dude.". So, yeah, I'm going to keep doing all. that stuff. >> I love it. Tom, thank you so much for. joining us. I wish you the very best of.

luck. I really appreciate your honesty. I really appreciate your conviction and. I appreciate your lack of conflict. I. think that is a really good um position. to be in. >> Thank you, Jennifer. I want to say this. Thank you for standing up. We need more Americans who are willing. to stand up. It's a huge, huge, huge. deal. That thing about Thomas Jefferson, millions for defense, not a penny for. tribute. We need more people with that. attitude. >> Thank you. Have a good day. >> [music].