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All right, joining me today in studio on. I Hip News is political commentator and. host of the Fast Politics podcast Molly. Jong-Fast. How are you today? >> I'm good. How are you? >> Very well. I would like to talk to you. about some observations that I have had. >> Yes. >> With these mega men. >> Yes. >> It always seems like there is some sort. of homo-social hanging out that they. prefer. And they also prefer these. photoshopped homoerotic photographs of. Donald Trump. Pop this up.

So, Donald Trump posted this picture. >> And as you have the record show, my face. >> [laughter]. >> is sort of dismayed. >> You can see the men with the pom-poms. >> Yeah. >> Donald Trump is photoshopped in some. little American flag panties. >> Yeah. >> And he's got. >> They're meant to be shorts, but I don't. want to. I think they're shorts. I mean, they. certainly. >> They remind me of Big Titty Brian's pink. panties that he had on. >> I feel Wait, who's Big Titty Brian?

>> Well, you know Big Titty Brian, the wife. the husband of Crystal. >> yes, yes. >> think he prefers to be called Crystal, which I will honor that. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Anyway, the men with pom-poms and Trump. actually posted this a couple of years. ago. >> Oh, this is not new. >> Yeah, people found it and then have a. recirculating. >> Oh, okay. >> Cuz he recently had that football player. over at CPAC rally. >> Right. And he was very Um so, here's. what I would say about this. I wonder. when this is from. I wonder if we could. find the provenance of this insane.

photograph It's not a photograph, it's. some kind of AI. Though, maybe it's pre Is it pre AI or. is it early AI? It. >> He posted it on social. A couple years ago. Yeah, so it's AI. >> So, it is photoshopped. It's. killing our our climate so that he can. wear really short shorts. Um look, he. describes. people, men,

women, we've heard him describe women. too this way in a very. >> [snorts]. >> um, over sexualized. way. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. He does it a lot. He had that. football player um, at a rally and he. was talking about how attractive he was. and talked about his thighs and. >> Yeah. >> um, it's just an observation from all of. this world when especially when you dive. into Fox News. >> Right. >> Watters talks about what it's like to be. a man. >> Right. >> And what real men do and real men don't.

do. So, I think it's just an interesting. >> It's It's very ironic to be a party that. is so focused on your anxieties about. masculinity. Your I mean, a great. example is Telerico. Telerico these the. the sort of big voices in MAGA have. spent the last. couple weeks just railing against. Telerico. He's too thin, he doesn't eat. barbecue, you know, they have a number. of complaints about him and then they. were like, "Where is his girlfriend?". and then the girlfriend turns out to be.

incredibly beautiful and also to have. come from a venerable Texas family, but. she is a vegan, which I guess is I don't. know. You know what, the thing about. these kind of over sexualized. uh, tropes of masculinity is that. they are in some ways like a shorthand. for the anxiety that this crew faces. about change you know, they're. they're worried about changing gender.

roles, right? They're worried about. women becoming full members of society. And so, so much of what you see with. this kind of regressive way of looking. at the world is an anxiety against. progress, right? It's a kind of um, you know, there's an incredible book by. Susan Faludi called Backlash and it's. all about how when women get progress or. LGBTQ people get progress, there's an. anxiety that causes a kind of.

reactionary politics, and that's what. we're living through right now. We're. living through another one of these. backlashes. So, this crew does a thing. called trolling, and they use the. trolling to try and and uh you know. examine you know, try to do different. things which will ultimately, you know, become, you know, either very oppressive. legislation or um you know, kind of. over-sexualized weirdness.

>> Yeah, and you brought up TeleRico, and I. remember the controversy regarding him. about 6 or 7 months ago was that he. followed OnlyFans. >> Right. >> accounts. >> Right. >> So, then he was too straight. >> Yes. >> And then he advances and has a very good. chance of beating this uh very uh. scandal-plagued. Paxton. >> Yeah. >> And then they try to feminize him. >> Right. >> And then they're talking about her being. a vegan, but also, I remember during the. RNC, do you remember when Usha Vance. spoke, and she said that she was a. vegan?

>> Yeah, she's a vegan. >> Yeah, and and nobody, you know, clapped. at the RNC convention. I remember like, "Oh, well, that's interesting.". >> Well, the thing about this Republican. idea of masculinity and these Republican. tropes of like how to be a woman, how to. be a man, is that they're very limiting, right? This is a country that is. a is a country that's built on all. different people from all different. places. So, Usha Vance is just religious. and doesn't eat meat as part of her. religion.

You would think that a lot of these. Trump people want Americans to be more. religious. >> Well, no, only a certain kind of. religion, Molly. Not Hindu. That is not. on the approved religious list. And and. this specific breed of uh. uh Republicans, you know, there's only. certain types of Christianity. You know, J.D. Vance's form of Catholicism, good. >> Right. >> Pope Leo, bad. >> Yeah. I mean, you know, I would say, if. you're on the wrong side of the Pope, you might want to ask yourself, like, perhaps I'm not doing this right.

>> Right. That's exactly right. Um okay. Something else is very very interesting. is happening. So, you know this guy. named I think his name is Stephen Cheung. >> Yeah. >> that works He does the White House. communications, I believe. Well, he. dressed Lil' Marco up in the same. ensemble that Nicholas Maduro was in, the little Nike jumpsuit. And he he dressed Lil' Marco up and. propped him up for a photo shoot on Air. Force One and posted it. I thought it. looked ridiculous and was somewhat.

humiliating. Yeah. So, now they have. made this. thirst trap video that they've just. posted on the White House Instagram. account. I cannot play the song along. with it because YouTube would pull it, but it is a Kanye West song. So, think. about the inferences there with a you. know, a confessed Nazi, Kanye. I don't. know if he's retracted that or not, but. nonetheless, it's a Kanye West song. And. here is a video they've made of Marco. Rubio. So, for those of you listening, it.

starts with Marco Rubio, and then it. goes. to I think it might be Is it Kylie's. "All I do is win, win, win"? >> Stronger. >> Oh, stronger. That that that that won't. kill me. So, it's Marco Rubio kind of. thirst trapping around. And it's. interesting. I don't think Marco Rubio's. uber attractive. I don't think he's uber. unattractive. But when you see this. video with the actual music playing, it's just. really interesting coming out of a White. House.

>> Well, well, here's what I would say. Marco Rubio is the. If you are a White House that is. terrified about midterms, and remember, you should be terrified about midterms. because this president has done a lot of. sketchy stuff and he could very likely. get impeached any which way and he you. know, we're already seeing this Congress. trying to check his powers. So, if. you're worried about trying to look. good, which. this White House has a lot of problems, right? If you look at the polls, they.

are cratering in every you know, and. they're underwater with Latino voters. and young voters and women voters and. non-college educated whites and you. know, if you don't see those results. from the Iowa primaries with a Donald. Trump endorsed. candidate losing a primary in Iowa, like. that's there's writing on the wall here. that farmers are mad, too and we have. this new. this parasite in Texas this screwworm. parasite. Yes, it's screwworm,

screwworm, which is going to be a big. [ __ ] problem. So, you have you have. a White House that sees that it is in. the middle of a lot of problems. So, if. you are trying to sort of. uh chart a future for yourself, you. certainly would rather have Marco out. there than J.D. Vance. Because my man J.D. Vance has negative. charisma and so I do think that the. Marco, you know, he's good-looking, he.

doesn't I think or relatively speaking. is good-looking, he seems young, which. Donald Trump does not seem young, right? And I think that if you're Stephen. Chung, like you want as much Marco. content as possible. Now, I think the. problem for this crew is that like you. don't want to remind people that you've. been doing these foreign wars because. Donald Trump ran expressly and saying he. was going to end foreign wars and the. foreign wars are the reason that gas is. five bucks a gallon. So, if it were me, I would be like trying to.

you know, stay away from that. >> So, let's dive into that a little bit. cuz I started calling a couple months. ago. >> Right. >> To the listener, I kept saying, "Trump. is going to rat [ __ ] J.D. Vance. He's. going to rat" and he has been rat. [ __ ] him. He has absolutely He's. sending him to uh the Erica Kirk thing. and Erica Kirk knows [ __ ] He's sending. him to Hungary. He's sending him to. Pakistan. He made him the fraud czar. >> Maine. You went to Maine. >> Maine. He made him the fraud czar. I. mean, with the most fraudulent president. in history. And then is this a little bit because,

you know, one thing Trump is is a petty. old queen. >> Yeah. >> Loves to rat [ __ ] He loves the. humiliation. >> Right. >> ritual. Is some of this just really. rubbing it in J.D.'s face? I'm saying, "Look, these guys bought you. I didn't. want you. Peter Thiel bought you and he. sent you here." And Peter Thiel's always. packed already packed his toys up and. hightailed it, as most Nazis do, to. Argentina. And so, I'm going to keep. rubbing this in your face. Don't you. think Trump's petty enough to keep.

rubbing this in J.D.'s face a little. bit? >> I'm So, I think Trump does does not want. to have a successor because he does not. want to ever leave. And so, I think what. J.D. Vance is is What's happening to. J.D. Vance is similar to probably what's. happening to the Trump kids with the. family business, which is. J.D. is going to run against Marco until. the last possible second, is my guess. And Donald Trump will be so cuz he. doesn't want to give away his power. The.

minute he picks a successor, he is the. lamest of lame ducks. So, I think he. will I think this will just watch this. go on and on and on. But, I also think. for sure, the guy loves it, you know, we. see that He didn't go to Junior's. wedding. >> Yes. >> Like, my man like he knew that would be. a news cycle or many news cycles. Like. It's like you just go to the wedding, right? It's your kid, you go. Even if. you're busy and want to play golf. So, I.

think that this is sort of how this is. sort of how it is, and it's a and I. think I mean, my guess is because he's a. narcissist that it's about winning favor. and playing people against each other to. see who can win his favor the best, and. I think that's worked for him. >> Do you think at some point he I mean, he. didn't go to his son's wedding. He's rat. [ __ ] J.D. Vance. I don't think he has. it in him to be big enough to be like. Marco, you have been a great um.

Secretary of State and all these other. jobs they've thrown at him. And you are. the heir apparent to the maggot. I just. don't think he has it in him. I think at. some point he'll start rat [ __ ]. Marco. >> I mean, I think what will happen is. Look, let's see where these polls go cuz. at this moment he is polling so poorly. I mean, 38, 37, 36 I mean, these polls. are unprecedented. The Democratic. generic is um.

8, 9, 10. I mean, crazy. Bigger than. 2018. My guess is that um he's going to have. if if gas gets right, it looks like gas. may get more expensive because of the. sort of reserve, the prudent reserve of. gas, which is sort of che you know, we're almost done with. Um so, you have. and you got the worms, and you've got. the beef, and you've got inflation. And we're heading into summer. So, he. may not be in a position to where he.

where the I mean, especially if you see. Republicans. uh and they keep checking their his. power, they keep going against him, what. happens with power is that what it. starts getting chipped away. So, he may. not be in a position to name an heir. apparent. >> Right. And I think at some point, because he always talks about his genes, yeah, you know, I think at some point if. he were to leave it to somebody, I think. it would probably be his favorite child, Ivanka, who's quite frankly stepped in. it.

>> Yeah. >> Big time lately with this with this. island. You know, I mean, can you. imagine. >> know that I'm not completely read in on. the Ivanka Island story. >> Okay, so there's this island. off the coast of Albania. And you know. Ivanka, she talks very seriously and. just the stoicism, and she says, "We. were jumping off my friend's boat. >> Oh, good. >> and we swam to this island and we hiked. to the top of the island barefoot. >> Right. >> It just it it left something inside of. us. So, this is a large-scale.

development. It's going to be a way of. life. So, we were talking about it here. I was talking about it with the. producers. In Albania, they've been on a. four- or five-day tear protesting. Jared and Ivanka Trump I mean, or. Kushner. And what great people to hate. What great people to protest against, right? So, all of a sudden, after these. protests are going on, that's when both. Jared and Ivanka put out, you know, this. new development they're working on. Bizarrely, this is an old Soviet island.

with bunkers all under it. So, we have. this recurring theme, Molly, billionaires and bunkers. Trump in his. ballroom which is going to have a. bunker, research center, hospital, drones, an Iron Dome, all this [ __ ]. right? Strippers. >> Yeah, exactly. [laughter]. >> So, so anyway, I think that they got busted. with their their island and now they're. trying to run interference, but it's. blowing up. Just think about now all the. memes all over the internet are that. Jared Kushner and Ivanka Trump Kushner.

are the new Jeffrey Epstein and. Ghislaine Maxwell on their island. >> Oh. >> Because it's this is all all of the. people that he has assembled around him. are Epstein affiliates. So, >> For sure, and there are certainly people. in the admin who figured prominently in. the files, including from the first. administration, the guy who gave the. sweetheart deal, Alex Acosta, who we. still have not seen testimony from, and.

I would really like to see it. Um, you. have to remember also that Donald Trump. has been in a sort of war against. Europe. And so, with his all that Greenland. stuff is not just about trolling, it's. also about trying to end NATO. And a. real kind of aggressive posture towards. the Europeans. So, as much as. the Ivanka and Jared are being protested. in Al protested in Albania, part of that. is a reaction to the really the.

Europeans are just absolutely done with. Trump and and also us. >> Yeah, and I don't blame them. >> Yeah, and you have to remember like the. straights are making gas more expensive. here, but they're making gas more. expensive all over the world. And the. case for why America did it is what? >> Yeah. >> Is what? That Donald Trump got tricked. by Netanyahu? That's what Marco Rubio. said. Like, think about that. Like, that. is an insane case study. And if you are.

a farmer in China or you are I mean, just think about the reverberations for. America for a minute. >> Yeah, it's it's fascinating that Marco. Rubio put that out. That it was um at. the behest of Benjamin Netanyahu. At the. exact same time Benjamin Netanyahu. tweets, "My 40-year long dream is finally coming. true because Donald Trump is like the. Make-A-Wish president for all of the. nefarious actors in the world.".

>> Yeah. >> You know, they use him to get whatever. crazy batshit uh wish they had, Donald. Trump will help them realize it because. the file on him psychologically is this. thick. It is flatter him. And they're. also just Yeah, they're just rolling. him. Like, it every point Donald Trump. is getting rolled. He's getting rolled. by Putin. He's getting rolled by this. one. He's getting rolled by that one. And so there's no. there's really no possible way that that.

anything I mean this is the problem with. the negotiations in in Iran right now. Who is doing this negotiation? Kushner? Jared? Like you have to negotiation is. hard and these guys have nukes. The. whole idea is we're going to have to. probably do another Obama nuclear deal. You know, just like Donald Trump. recreated NAFTA. This is what's. happening here. And so but you need. someone who actually knows how to do. stuff doing things in the government. I. mean the reason Marco has five jobs is.

because Marco's like knows how to do. stuff versus, you know, everyone else in. this administration. >> All right. So there's something that a. lot of what we would call corporate Dems. or centrist Dems say that the Democrats. need to quit talking about cultural. wars. >> Can we talk about I have to go into. this. Yes. Cuz this I'm I am literally. this is the one thing I'm obsessed with. >> Okay. So there's always this notion. Democrats talk about cultural wars and. I'm like from my vantage point the.

people that talk about cultural war [ __ ]. all the time are the people who are. freaking the [ __ ] out that it is pride. month. The people who are losing their. minds who talk about trans issues all. the time. So we have these posters right. here Molly at the GOP leadership. conference and one of them says. Republicans are cutting your taxes and. has a big piggy bank with a big, you. know, tax refund and the next one says. Democrats were transing the mice with.

your 8.2 million of your tax dollars. Go. off. >> I cannot I am obsessed with this. Okay, first of all. when I saw that So this comes from Doge. and this comes from somebody in in Elon. Musk's stable used AI to look through. all of these govern the NIH grants. And. in it he found transgenic. mice. Okay, transgenic mice not trans.

mice. Transgenic mice are the kind of. mice you use for science experiments. So, if you have a cancer vaccine, you. put it on a transgenic mice, you inject. the mouse with it and you see if it. works. You don't do that with a person. yet because we're trying not to kill too. many people. So, we do it with the mice. They're transgenic mice and you buy. them. There are people who sell them and. you buy them for science experiments. They're not trans. This has nothing to. do with being trans. It has everything.

to do with being a scientific mass. Now, I saw this and thought. now, this is so stupid this can't. possibly be real. Okay? And I thought, well, they'll figure it out and they'll. correct it because these people are not. complete and utter morons. Okay? Well, here's what happened. They didn't They. didn't do that. Here's what they did. They made it a poster. Nobody They [ __ ] saw no. >> Look at what the mouse is holding. >> My My pronouns are they/them. But I want.

to point out and. please cut this into a clip because this. is the one thing I I would like to put. this on my tombstone. Eat The mice are not trans. So, this. means that that four or five members of. Congress and their staffers thought that. these mice were trans mice. They blew it. up for a poster. They had a press. conference in front of a trans mouse. The mice are not trans. They're just. mice used for science experiments. How.

Like I I When I saw this, I got so upset. because I thought. these people are so stupid and we're not. supposed to say they're stupid. Like. that's the thing we're not supposed to. say they're stupid. >> it every day. >> THEY ARE NOT TRANS MICE. THEY'RE JUST. MICE. They're mice for science. >> I'm going to say they are stupid. >> I I just hope they're being dishonest. and not being stupid and not that they. don't understand. I mean. it just has starts with a T. Like.

it's it's they're not trans mice. I will. I will take this to my grave. They're. not the mice. >> I want your Tim. >> are not gay. They're not trans. They're. just mice. and you need them. >> I want your Tim sound to say Molly. Jong-Fast. mouse advocate. >> I mean you can't do science if you don't. understand what words mean. Like this is. a fundamental and this is really great. I mean this is why we're so cooked when. it comes to AI. It's like when I Googled.

myself the other day in AI, it showed it. had me confused with someone else and it. had my husband as dead. And I was like. I'm not going to tell him because I. think he'll be really upset by the idea. that he's dead. But the point of this is. like. just because it starts with the first t. r a n z does not mean they are gay or. trans or anything. They're just [ __ ]. mice. >> I mean I I she has had it.

>> I have had it with the I've had it with. the mice. >> I want to explain that from living in a. from living in a red state. Once they get on something like this, it is like catnip for them to think that. the liberals and for Republicans, they. don't know the difference between a. liberal, a center-left Democrat, a. progressive, or a leftist. >> to. >> They're all libtards. >> what mice what you use mice for in. scientific experiments?

>> They don't care. These are the people. that don't get vaccinated. Do you know. what I mean? So, this is like catnip for. them. And they will they believe I can't. tell you how many people in Oklahoma I. had that said. tell you what, my friend's. cousin's daughter said they had litter. boxes in the bathroom. >> Right, the litter box. >> And And I said, "So, you're telling me. that high school students are walking. into bathrooms dressed as cats Yeah. using their hands like paws and taking a. [ __ ] Not one person has photographed it.

when all these kids do are on Snapchat. 24/7." And. Well, I Well, I That's just what she. said. And people still believe it. They. still believe that furries are taking. shits in litter boxes in US high schools. because they want to. >> Right. >> They want to believe that that the. Democratic Party is investing in saving. the imaginary trans mice. >> Mice. >> The claim is that 2.8 million in. government funds were spent on transing.

mice. But what it is is it's 2.8 billion. dollars in mice that you use for sci-. million, not billion. Sorry. 2.8, that. would be a ballroom. 2.8 million dollars. in government funds that are spent on. mice. You buy the mice, you shoot them. up with the you know, whatever the. vaccine, make sure it doesn't kill the. humans before you give it to the humans. Um they're used in medical research, okay? So, would you want your I mean,

maybe we just don't want to do medical. research anymore. That is very possible. We do have RFK in charge of HHS. But um. HHS, but it just it it absolutely. infuriates me. >> Uh And here's here's how I want to. respond to these people, the Facebook. doctors who do their own research. >> I think what we should do is every. hospital, we have a Facebook tent in the. parking lot. And if you have ever posted. anti-science, anti-doctor, anti-vax. [ __ ] When you go to the hospital,

you can go there, but you have to go to. the Facebook tent. >> Yes. >> And talk to Debbie that you graduated. from high school with, and you can't go. talk to the real doctors. >> Talk to Debbie. >> I know, but it's crazy. Okay, I want to. a lot of this stuff is exacerbated by. Elon Musk who has this big, big. platform, and he posts a lot of, you. know, anti-science stuff, a lot of Nazi. stuff. >> irony of a guy who got rich on. government subsidies for science, for.

clean energy, posting all of the. biggest Anyway, go on. >> He has amplified this transgenic mice. thing a lot because he has a beautiful. daughter, trans daughter, named Vivian. who is lovely and wonderful, and she is. now going to be modeling for Rihanna's. new lingerie. >> She's also a child like she's a. teenager, right? She's I think she's.

maybe 21 now. Yeah, 22. So, she's not in. she's she's a kid. >> And so, Elon has admitted that he got. into politics. You know, he started off. as kind of an environmentalist, and he. was doing the Teslas. So, he's admitted. that he got into politics because of his. daughter Vivian. He would rather hate on. people than love this beautiful child he. has. It says, "Elon Musk confirms he got. into politics because of his estranged. trans daughter Vivian Wilson.". >> Yeah. >> And now Vivian is modeling for Rihanna,

which she is beautiful. And. of course, Elon's freaking out about this, and Elon. says, uses her dead name, which I won't. repeat, and says was murdered by the. woke mind virus. "Now it will die.". >> I mean. >> he's the one who amplifies all this. [ __ ] and rials them all up. And and. that's something that. during this Pride Month, people in in. New York and LA and all these places.

need to understand that for trans and. gay people in a lot of spaces, their first bullies are their parents. >> Yeah, it's such a And I mean, first of. all, it's just so disappointing and that you. would do this to one of your kids. And I. I just I think it's it's I. I think that without the if you were. just to take away the partisan lens for. a minute, this is a father. who is just really being abusive to his.

daughter in a public forum. And you. know, we have kids and we know how hard. it is to be a kid and to grow up in the. world. And it's just really. disappointing. Um and and I think my. heart goes out to them and also to. Justine who has really. been through it. >> All right. And then lastly, I want to. leave you with talk about Hunter Biden. >> Yes. >> Okay, so Hunter Biden, my husband's in. recovery. I think you're in recovery. So. the great thing about being in recovery.

is you have to live a life of rigorous. honesty. And so Hunter Biden has been. like, yes, I smoked crack, I screwed hookers, it's all over the. internet. I'm making amends for it, but it is what. it is. And the sanctimonious MAGA Bible. thumpers all, you know, Hunter Biden is. a criminal, all this stuff, on and on. and on. I always had a lot of empathy. for him because knowing how hard it is. for people to sustain sobriety in. general. >> And he's had it tough. >> Multiply it with your brother dying,

your dad being president, all of the. right-wing after you. I always had. some empathy and sympathy for him. And. now he's fighting back. And I some. Democrats are like, Hunter Biden, you. know, blah blah. I love it. I love that. he is telling these MAGA people, [ __ ]. you. At least I own my [ __ ] you closet. case." Getting up all up in their. business all over Twitter. And here he. is firing off about Jake Tapper, and he. says, "What the [ __ ] timeline are we on?

Someone called me the maggot whisperer, and I'll gladly take the title. Left, right, D or R, we all want the same. things. We're being divided on purpose. by the Epstein elite oligarch class. because as long as we're at each other's. throats, they get fat and rich off of. our misery. The second we figure out we. agree on more than we disagree, they're. done. Love your neighbor, be yourself, radical honesty. That's that People in. recovery live and die by that. No [ __ ].

given, no [ __ ] taken. Everything else. is just noise." And then he throws in, "But still [ __ ] Jake brick. uh Tamlin Tapper or any on any. timeline." So, as you know, Jake Tapper. wrote a book about Joe Biden. And I. think if you run for president or any. politician, whatever you do or act, it's. up for criticism. But the media doesn't. seem to apply the same level of. criticism.

>> for Biden as for Trump. >> Yes. Well, I mean, look, uh. Y- yes, for sure. Uh Trump does seem. quite nutty in a way that I I don't know. that Biden. w- w- that was not available. Look, there are there are many different. things to say here. One is that. um. the Bidens really don't like Jake. Tapper. And uh.

and and and you know, I that. I don't in my mind, I didn't quite. understand what the point of that book. was. Um. you know, but it it is. uh. I think that that he's had a sort of. pivot to try to. um. you know, it's just a he is a very. complicated fellow and uh but I would. say that um and I like to not say.

anything mean and nice you could tell. But. um I I try not to engage in media on. media violence, but uh what I think is. really good that um we're seeing him do, we're seeing Hunter do is he's talking. about recovery and I you know, I'm sober. 29 and a half year 28 and a half years, not 29, 28. But but you know, part of it. is we are a country that has quite a lot. of problems with substances. Absolutely. We do not send people to necessarily the. right places to help get them get sober.

and we don't necessarily let that let. what we know about recovery inform the. way we treat addiction. So, these what. he's doing here is actually really good. because what we need to see are people. who get sober and stay sober and and. them modeling that behavior, talking. about how they got sober and helping. other people get sober. And so that is. actually incredibly cool and he's got a. bunch of time and he had um a really. hellacious story. The other thing I'm. going to say about Hunter Biden is.

people who knew Hunter Biden in his. addiction, even if he was. flaky and whatever, he actually like. there's a lot people that I mean, there. are a lot of people who really did who. he was pretty kind to. And there is a. weird like kind Biden, you know, they're. sort of kind people. Um. but at the more we can talk about. addiction the better and I think that's. really good and I think that you know,

we can come there's a lot of room for us. as Americans to treat addiction and. addicts better. So, that I think is is. actually a great thing that Hunter's. doing. >> I completely agree. I remember. one of my favorite moments that I've. ever seen Joe Biden in was the debate. and Donald Trump in a really hateful. manner referred to Hunter as a drug. addict. >> Yeah. >> And Biden. just said he's my son and he had an. addiction and he's better and I love.

him. And you just showed this radical. unconditional love. >> And what. >> And I thought that was a really. beautiful moment juxtaposing cuz the pro. the situation is Republicans are addicts. of the same clique that Democrats are. >> And in fact, Donald Trump does not drink. or take any drugs and remember because. he had a brother. >> Right. >> So, like if this is if family disease, I. mean, I had an alcoholic parent, alcoholic grandma grandmother. So, like. why would you ever make this attack as.

you know, why would this need to be. partisan? Why can't this just be a about. people getting recovered? So, I actually. like what he's doing here and I like. that he's not he's not engaging in hyper. partisan and he's actually saying like. it's the elites versus the normal people. which I actually think is is where. Democrats should go probably. >> And I think the reason that you see a. lot of MAGA people picking on addicts is. the same reason they're picking on. the mice that you so vociferously.

defend. >> God bless mice. >> Because they love to punch down. >> Go on. >> They like to punch down. Trans people. are born to Republicans at the same rate. that they're born to Democrats. Gay. people are born. All of the gay people I. know in Oklahoma had Christian. Republican parents. >> I mean, it's just geographically, you. know? So, I think the more we can have people. normalize and talk about and diffuse. these things the better and the. healthier we will be and I just think. it's terrible to the shame that addicts.

live with. >> Yeah, for sure. >> To de I think it's important to. destigmatize. That's why my husband Josh. and I and you so openly about it. >> the only way to get treatment for. addiction is for people to talk about it. and to be honest about it and to and. also to see that it's available. To see. that you can stay sober for a long. period of time and have a. um a life where you can do a lot of. stuff. And um. I I think that. these mice though are not gay mice. They're not trans mice. They're just.

mice. They're science experiments. >> they smoke and crack? >> Like words have meaning. Like they have. meaning. And if we're not if words don't. have meaning, then what are we even. doing here? >> Molly Jong-Fast, advocate for. mice. >> things what they are. Mice, if they're. mice, that's great, but these mice are. not trans. >> They are not trans mice. Molly, thank. you so much. It's so lovely having you. in studio. >> Thank you. Oh my god, it's so fun. I. love it.

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