IHIP News: NEW Trump Evidence in EPSTEIN FILES Is BURYING HIM as He FAILS to Distract with Wars!

Today, I am joined by my friend and. political commentator and political. heavyweight David Rothkopf. David, how. are you today? I am good. How are you, Jen? Very well. All right, what are your. thoughts on the pathological lying state. of the union dementia hour that we all. had to endure last night? Well, I wrote a column for the Daily. Beast which began by saying if you took. all the truth that he told in the speech. and you tattooed it on the genitalia of.

a flea, it would still leave room for. the Gettysburg Address. >> [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Oh my god, that's so good. I It's just I. think what bothers me so much at this. stage in the fascist takeover is just. how the the pro-family, pro-America, pro-national security, pro-fiscal. conservative Republicans, when he starts. pathologically lying, this is a guy who is in the Epstein. files, covering up child rape, Pam.

Bondi's doing all this dirty work for. him. They stand there and clap like. little programmed seals. I mean, the the. death march of the Republican Party that. has been so sanctimonious over all of us. for so long, I think might be one bit of. silver lining that they're all finally. exposed as the hypocrites that we all. kind of knew that they were. Yeah, but you know, I think they deserve. more. criticism than they actually get because.

there's a lot of people who say the. drift towards fascism. or, you know, the the actual descent. into authoritarianism. is all Trump. And it's not all Trump. You actually have to have a room full of. people who are hooting and hollering and. yapping and doing exactly what you want, cheering everything that you say even. when it's a lie or it's evil. And that's. what happened last night. You know, you. had this room full of. brain dead zombies who were sitting.

there and and as you say, sort of. clapping like circus seals every time. that they were queued to do it, even if. what was happening was ridiculous or. awful or a lie. And I mean, you know, that we had the image of the president. saying, "I'm going to launch a war on. fraud." Even though he's a convicted. fraudster, the person he's putting in. charge of the war, J.D. Vance, is the leading fraud of his.

generation, and the entire effort is. based on a fraud. You know, but you. know, cheer cheer cheer. Or you know, here are the Republicans who say, "Oh, we are the defenders of the sanctity of. the military and American national. security." And Trump has given out. congressional medals of honor at this. thing like it's a game show, like he's. Oprah. "You get a congressional medal of. honor, and you get a congressional medal. of honor." And then he goes, and this.

was really one of the low points of the. speech. "Hey, you know, I've always. wanted one of those medals. I'm trying. [laughter] to figure out how I could get. one." And you know, he is the most. famous draft dodger in America, and he's. trying to figure out how he can give. himself a congressional medal of honor. But do they applaud? Oh, yeah, they. applaud. It's. disgusting, but. when you look at it and you say, "Well, gee, that looks a little familiar. Where. did I see that? Was it at a Nuremberg.

rally for Hitler? Or was it at Kim. Jong-un's last speech in North Korea?". And the answer is yes, because that's. how fascism works. All right. We've seen him now. He's. putting up these Kim Jong-un. Hitler-esque portraits of himself on DOJ. and all these other buildings, which I. think you live in DC and I hope you. don't have to drive by these places just. as as your friend. I hope that you and. your lovely wife Harley don't have to.

see that filth. But, it's fascinating to me that here we. have the you know, when I think about. the Republican Party 10 years ago how. they were about justice and you know, the the Justice Department and you have. this bozo uh Pam Bondi who is actively. engaging in one of I mean, it makes. Watergate look quaint and their NPR just. released a story that they have removed, I think 53 documents where there's.

incredible claim that the President of. the United States committed sexual. assault. She's covering this up. And this is the department that's. supposed to have independence. And we. have the banner up. of of Trump. And. I just I'm so fascinated by how far this. Epstein thing is going to go. Like, do. you think this is going to be his. undoing or is are we so bombarded with. the flood the zone stuff that he's going.

to start a war in Iran to drag the. narrative, wag the dog away from this? Well, I don't think those things are. mutually exclusive. I think the worse it. gets, the more extreme the measures. he'll take to distract from what's going. on, right? So, will he attack Iran? Possibly. Yeah, sure. He might. He might. attack anywhere else. There was no. reason to attack Venezuela, right? But. he did it anyway because he wanted to. distract from it. You know, there I. mean, he had the absurd idea of invading.

Greenland until he realized what a mess. that would be. Uh so, he'll do anything. to distract from it. But, I think the. thing that's coming out here is you. can't. This Epstein thing is so big on so many. levels, right? It's not just that. Epstein is a disgusting person or. Ghislaine Maxwell is a disgusting person. or Trump, who is by far the biggest. figure in this whole thing other than. Epstein, is a disgusting person or that. they're criminals. Because, you know,

that what was being hidden by the. Justice Department are sworn testimony. saying that Trump raped a 13-year-old. girl and threatened to kill. other people. Um and and you know, so he is he is well into the middle of. it, but it also is about a bigger issue, right? It's about a culture of impunity. enjoyed by the super-rich in the United. States that makes them think that the.

law is for little people and that they. can get away with anything. And I think because it is now resonating. with people, not just as. a crime story, but as a story of the. sort of breakdown of American society, of something that's fundamentally wrong. with us as a country, I think it just. gets bigger and bigger. Now finally, you. know, you do if Pam Bondi is not a bozo, Pam Bondi is one of the most evil people. who has ever served in the US government.

because she has taken the Department of. Justice, which is there to defend us, and turned it into the private law firm. of Donald Trump. You know, that banner. hanging I don't know who's giving the. president advice, but you know, he he. seems to think that that arrest photo um. communicates some kind of good image of. him even though he looks like, you know, Frankenstein in the in the in the in the. picture, right? Um as he's glowering sort of under his.

overly large brow out of the world, but. um it you know, it's it's appropriate. because the Department of Justice has. become the Department of Obstruction of. Justice. All that they do. is they try to hide the crimes of the. president. and they go after his enemies. And uh. the you know, this is it's it's going to. take a long time to restore the. reputation of these places and we. haven't even gotten to Kash Patel flying.

around on a jet so that the FBI can't go. and actually. you know, investigate crimes, right? Cuz. they only have a couple of number a. couple of these kind of jets of this. size. Uh but he thinks it's worth. taxpayer dollars for him to be guzzling. beers with the US men's hockey team in. Milan. It's it's it is a [ __ ] show. But it is also a disaster for the rule. of law in the United States. And I I we. you know, we it's it's easy to get.

caught up in this, but we shouldn't lose. sight of it. One last point, I am a. skeptic, as you know. My father was a. scientist. I don't believe in conspiracy. theories. Every bit of evidence that we now have. about Epstein. suggests that this is bigger than we. thought it was. You know, the the the the the the. information around his death is super. suspicious. The information about Bill. Barr's involvement in this whole thing,

the former attorney general whose dad. was the first person to hire Epstein, uh and who was the last person to see. Epstein. The involvement of Epstein with. foreign intelligence services, including. very likely both the Russians and the. Mossad. Um the the the the the the the web of. financial crimes that are likely to be. covered up here in him laundering money. for the Russians and him managing money. uh for Vladimir Putin and the obvious.

nexus between that and Trump, who is. clearly a Russian tool because as you. and I both know and as we've discussed. separately, the reason Trump is so triggered by. Russia, Russia, Russia. is because it's true. And I think that's a a key part of the. Epstein story. So, all those conspiracy. theories, it's increasingly looking like they're. all real. And actually, the failure of. the media.

with regard to Epstein has been. underestimating the story, under. covering the story, not appreciating how. big it is. And I think throughout this. year, it's not going away. And that's. going to have a huge impact on the. election because he he's going to try to. bury it, but it won't be buried. This. is, you know, the this is the last scene. of of. the movie Carrie where she goes to the. grave site and the hand comes up through.

the the dirt, you know. >> [laughter]. >> Um. big. that she it won't stay dead. What do you make of the. conversations. with Peter Thiel and Jeffrey Epstein. where they are celebrating Brexit? And. when you know, I know you've read Peter. Thiel, you know, this guy has benefited. from being an immigrant. He's benefited. from capitalism, unregulated capitalism. He's benefited from democracy. But he thinks he's so smart, but he's.

such a wuss. He won't put his name on. the ballot to change government. He is. colluding with a pedophile child rapist. to do so. What do you make of This was. something that I thought, "Oh my god, it's all connected." You have Israel, you have Russia, and now every oligarch, Jeffrey Epstein took a picture with all. of them and emailed it to himself. And now it's out. And the colluding. that you think about what these people.

have been doing, putting J.D. Vance as. the heir apparent to this dementia duck. president that we have now. What's your. take on Peter Thiel and that whole. celebrating of Brexit and the new world. order? That was really kind of took my. breath away a little bit. Well, I think the whole thing has taken. my breath away. The picture that you're. talking about, you know, with uh. Epstein and these uh the tech bros is a. different kind of dick pic because. they're all dicks. You know, and and you.

know, we've looking at, you know, and. the the the technological revolution in. this country and and we're on the verge. of some amazing things in AI. Uh and they've all got a problem, which. is people hate them. Because they are [ __ ] evil people. You know, Elon Musk is evil. Peter Thiel. is evil and like Elon, he's demented. I. don't know what was in the water in. South Africa when these guys were being. brought up there. But I mean, I've.

sure you've seen Peter Thiel talking. about, "Well, you can either do it my. way or then there's the Antichrist." And. you're like, What are you What are you talking about? And you know, meanwhile, most of Peter. Thiel's money and a like Elon's money is. coming from contracts. not just with the US government, but. with the Department of Defense. The a. lot of the Palantir money is coming from. contracts with the intelligence. community that are in budgets that we. can't even track. Um and this guy is.

burrowed. deep into the deepest recesses of the US. government and his tools are being used. to implement an authoritarian agenda. because as Peter Thiel has said, he. doesn't like democracy. He wants a country that's run by the. elites. And you know, let's be honest. That's what we have right now. Since [snorts] Citizens United,

since this Supreme Court has, you know, dug in, it it. the amount of money spent by. billionaires in political campaigns in. the past 10 years has gone up 14,000%. What's what's going on here is they now. control the agenda. They're happy to. control the agenda. They pick who the. candidates can be. They decide what's. going to get money against it and what's. not. And meanwhile, you know, you look.

at the things that are important to you. or me or to most Americans, whether. it's, you know, tax reform or health care or. gun control or protecting the. environment, all those things, by the. way, that's not a progressive agenda. That's supported by 70, 80, 90% of the. American people. And yet they're. politically untouchable. And that's the. sign that our democracy is broken. Because if you have things that 70 or. 80% of voters want, and you can't. advance them, that means that, you know,

it's not the ballot box that's driving. it. It's, um, you know, the check writing that's. driving the US government. These are the. people that are behind it. So, it's you. know, it is a dark day because you have. to look do If you want to know where. this country is going right now, don't look at the polls. Look at what. Elon wants. Look at what Peter Thiel. wants. Look at what Marc Andreessen. wants. Look at what Mark Zuckerberg. wants. Look at what Jeff Bezos wants. Uh, look at what Larry Ellison wants.

Um, and and and that's, you know, they're buying up the media. They're donating to the campaigns. They're spending money, you know, there's now reports of Elon driving. voting irregularities in the last the. last election. They're putting their thumb on the. scale. And in a in a very real sense, and again, I'm not a conspiracy theorist. guy, it's us against them. Yeah. Uh. which is what drives me fat [ __ ]. >> [laughter]. >> about the Democrats who are like, "Well,

let's not be mean to the billionaires.". That's what my next question would be. I. want to talk about the opposition. So, like you and I, we we see all of. this clear-eyed. My My listeners and. viewers, your listener and viewers, we're all clear-eyed. We're all living. in reality about what we're seeing, the. abusive nature, the shake-downs, the. immorality, the illegality, all of it. All right, so we could They're going to. do that every day. So, as I look to the. opposition, I look at.

the way I see it is we have corporate. dems, which I now think are just paid. opposition. I think Chuck Schumer, I. think uh. Gavin Newsom is appearing more and more. to look like this. He recently was. talking about, "We can't be talking. about pronouns." And he did that with. his hands like this. And I thought, "People who talk about pronouns all the. time and talk about kids' genitals all. the time are Republicans, and everybody. knows it." And so, I'm very frustrated. being a Democrat right now because the.

opposition is either you have these. Maga-lite Democrats, and we have these fighters like Zephyr. Teachout, like Graham Plater, and then. you have the establishment Democrats. that are fighting against our biggest. winners. I don't know if you saw the. polling of Graham Plater. 38 points on. Janet Mills. 38 points. He's plus 38 on. the establishment dems. Last question, as we move forward and we. are an opposition party, what's your. take on where the Democrats are right.

now? Well, my take is the same as your take, which is that if you allow the corporate. dems to continue to lead in the party, then you will get the same kind of. policies that you would have gotten sort. of Trump-lite or Reagan-lite uh that. we've been getting for a long time. Uh. And you know, they are a problem. And if Chuck Schumer. is driving where we're going, we are. going to be in a bad place.

I. I you know, I think these new voices are. important. I think Zohran Mamdani is. important. I think you know, there some emerging. voices out there in the world that you. can listen to. There also some older. voice I mean AOC is I think in some. respects the leader of the Democratic. Party right now. And I and I will give you some hope. Okay, let's end on a. on a on a note of some hope. Okay. Okay, well. not to 2028 will be the first US.

presidential election cycle in which the. majority of voters will be born since. 1990. Okay, they will be Millennials and they. will be Gen Z. They don't remember the Cold War. They don't remember 9/11. They sort of came of age in a political. world in which our institutions were. dysfunctional, in which the American. dream was dysfunctional, in which. inequality was raging at the highest.

levels in US history, in which Donald. Trump was the biggest political figure. in our life. And they are saying this. does not work for us. And they are the ones that elected. Mamdani. And I would add by the way, they also elected Mikie Sherrill and. Abigail Spanberger who are more. centrist. But it was the turnout of. young voters that decided who gets to to. to win in the most recent elections that. we've got. And their agenda is very.

different. It's different on the. environment. It's different on Israel. It's different on the economy. They are. the ones driving an affordability agenda. not cuz it's politically the thing to. do, but because they don't think they're. going to get to own a house. And somebody's going to have to come. along and say, "Well, yeah, you're going. to get to own a house. And by the way, AI is not going to destroy your dreams. of having a career or of having a. family." They have a whole different. agenda. I don't think they. I mean, the Mondani story proves it, you.

know. They were like, you know, corporate Dems get out of the. way. And the corporate Dems were like, "Well, we're not going to support him.". And And they were like, "Good. That's a. plus. Bring it on.". Um and I think that that that, you know, their role in in politics and, you know, you may like Graham Platner. I I I. frankly prefer my Senate candidates. without Nazi tattoos. But, you know, we. can debate about individual candidates. all we want. The reality is that. alternative voices are going to emerge.

between now and the 2026 elections. Uh. and they're going to drive the future of. American politics. And then, you know, Chuck Schumer can go home and. and be with his grandkids. You know, and. and Hakeem Jeffries, if he can't grow a. spine, he's got to go with him. I agree. >> You know, and we've got to get strong. people because. the next phase for the United States, come 2028, is going to require some heavy lifting.

Because we're going to have to start. with structural change, with the Supreme. Court, with the number of states we've. got, with. um the way the Senate rules work, with, you know, the uh undoing a number of. these things like Citizens United. Before we do anything, or we will slip. right back into fascism. And we're going. to have to have accountability. We can't. have Joe Biden. uh and Merrick Garland like, "Well, the. institutions will take care of. themselves." Cuz these people will then. say, "Well, great. We've got a free.

pass. We're going to go back and do it.". Donald Trump has stolen $5 million. There's two clauses in the Constitution. that say you can't do that. Two. emoluments clauses. That means doing it. is illegal. That means there is no. immunity for it. If he is not prosecuted. for widespread corruption, if if if the. Pam Bondis and the Stephen Millers and. the Kristi Noems are not prosecuted for. the crimes they are committing, for. obstruction of justice, for those kinds.

of things, we will be right back in the. soup. So, every time you vote for. somebody, you got to ask, are they going. to have the cojones to do or the ovaries. to do the right thing or not? Uh and I I. am encouraged because I think a new. generation of American politics is going. to be able to begin the process of. cleaning this up. I hope you're right and I I definitely. feel the the momentum heading that way. I think a lot of the MAGA support that.

we see is feigned via bots and. exaggerated and it's such. weird um over-the-top news that consumes. more uh space in our mind, but I've been. to no Kings marches and in spaces like. this, I know that we're building strong. communities here where people care about. everybody. David Rothkopf listener. viewer is one of my personal friends. This is our first time to collab and so. I love it. I hope we can do it many, many more times. David, thank you so. much. Same. Thank you, Jen.

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