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Happy Memorial Day. It is an all skate. with all of the I've had it IHIP News. people on board today. Of course, I am. Jennifer. She is Pumps. Pumps, raise. your hand. There she goes. She is Kylie. And then. we have Ryan. And then we have Seth. How. is everybody? Happy Memorial Day. How. it's going to go is I've asked each. member of our team to pick a story they. would like to share with the class. And. I want to call on Kylie first.

>> Okay. First, I've got this clip of. Michelle Obama. She went on this podcast. and this clip went viral. And I'm super. interested to get your response on it. >> Okay. >> Yeah. I can't look some people in the. face and tell them you have no right to. be angry or to do something that maybe. is against your own interest. That's. what that's human nature. Many of the. people who voted for my husband twice. >> twice. And I know that that's how they. feel. It's like this isn't this isn't.

about anything other than. >> I'm just we need we need something. different. >> They voted for Donald Trump. Yeah. >> You know, >> that's a lot of people. >> So, you can't just. pigeon hole them and say you just don't. care and you're racist or whatever. you're thinking. >> This is an act of I don't know what else. to do. H I do think. some people for sure um voted for Donald.

Trump because they're racist, but I. think a lot of people didn't. And I also. think that. black people, particularly somebody like. Michelle Obama who's in that position, um. are very cautious about how they speak. about accusing somebody of being racist. and they are intimately aware of the. backlash for doing that. And she's. correct that some people that voted for.

Obama twice then voted for Trump. And in. those ca those those individual cases, I. would say that perhaps those people. aren't racist, but I definitely growing. up in Oklahoma, I've heard a lot of. racist [ __ ] said about Michelle Obama. and Barack Obama. Um, and I think we. still have a racist problem, but I don't. want to be in the business of Michelle. Obama is incredible. She we're lucky.

that she's publicly speaking now in. podcasts. Um she's an inspiration for. women and particularly black women um. who always get pushed to the bottom of. the totem pole. But it it it's it's. interesting. She's very educated. She's. a lot smarter than I am. She's a lot. more mature than I am. Um she's a lot. better person than I am. Michelle Obama. >> Yeah, I I completely agree. I don't. think that only. racists voted for Trump, but I think if.

you're a racist, the only candidate you. voted for was Trump. I I mean, I don't. think they're all racist, but I don't. think there were very many racists that. came out for Harrison Walls or or Biden. I just don't. >> Yeah, I I think I think that's probably. right. And I think that. that it's our job to call them out. because I think black people get an.

additional layer of racism piled onto. them. >> when they call it out, which is unfair. Seth, you sound like you were going to. say something. Uh what do you think about do you think. there was a large swath of the. electorate that I feel like as a as. Americans we've kind of gone into this. cycle where everything goes by so. quickly? Do you think that there were. voters out there that like have such. short-term American memory that they. forgot how shitty he was in his first.

term and they just voted for him second. time? >> Totally. We are, we have no attention. span. We're really, I mean, culturally, very. instant gratification, um, impulsive. We're a lot of bad. things. And Trump is a representation of. all of our worst character defects into. one person. >> You can't underestimate how dumb some of. these people are that are voting. I. mean, I remember I was reading a focus.

group that we talked about on one of the. IHIP news episodes. of people that voted for Trump and now. regret it. One of these people said that. the reason that they voted for him was. because they thought that he was going. to completely abolish all taxes. So, they would never they would not pay. taxes at all anymore. >> So, I think that. >> he's not. That's true. Uh, so I think. it's it kind of exactly like Pump said,

you know, if you're racist, you voted. for Donald Trump, but not every person. >> who voted for Donald Trump is racist. That being said, they are enabling a. racist. So, >> they're okay with fine, right? It's not. a um I do think I remember that focus. group. It was a New York Times focus. group and you and I talked about it a. lot, Ryan. And the one thing that was so. stunning to me about it is this was said. multiple times. I think there were 12. people in the focus group total and like. eight out of the 12 had said, "I thought.

he learned his lesson." And I remember. sitting there thinking, "Are we so. [ __ ] dumb that we think that we are. going to elect people for president as a. second chance offering?" Like that's. what you say to your kid. Like, "Look, last time you took my car out, you. wrecked it and I just got a brand new. car." And you know, let's say the kid. wrecks it four or five times, they bring. it back. Well, I thought you had learned. your lesson. You know, it's just like. it's it's insane that the bar is so low. for representation. Uh the erosion that.

he and other politicians have done. Kylie, what do you think about Michelle. Obama? >> I agree. I think everyone here hit a. good point and a lot of people online. agree with this. I saw a lot of people. that just immediately clapped back with. we're talking about the party that made. the monkey meme, the AI monkey, all of. this racist [ __ ] But coming from where. we live, I know with a lot of. frustration, I think there's some truth. to what she said. But I also think that.

if you are okay with racism or it's not. a dealbreaker, you are a racist. I just. think I think they're the same thing. >> I completely agree with that. >> At that point, I disagree with Michelle. >> I think they're almost worse. I think I. would rather be around somebody who just. owns who they are than somebody who. covers for somebody who is homophobic or. racist. The people that partake in it in. a passive way secretly, that is the most. those are the most insidious forms of.

bigotry. Those are the forms of bigotry. that have the most air. The secret. bigotry that people cover up to me is. the absolute most insidious. Okay, let's. see who is next. Let's go to Seth. Seth, what is your story? >> Okay, so uh as we're all woefully aware, uh Senator Booster Box Mark Wayne Mullen. is no longer just an Oklahoma problem. He's now a national, maybe even international problem that.

everybody has to deal with. Uh and so my. first I' I've got two slides here. Uh. the first one, this was a uh Kansas City. Star opinion piece that they they posted. about a month ago. Uh and in it he says. howratom giant uh got what it wanted. from RFK and new homeland security chief. opinion. And you'll look at this photo. here and it says Secretary Kennedy with. his friend and Botanic Tonics founder JW.

Ross. I want you to remember the name JW. Ross. Uh, and I'm going to read you just. a short little excerpt from this from. this opinion piece. A funny thing. happened down in Oklahoma in December. After two years of inaction caused by a. federal court backlog, the Justice. Department finally won a key ruling in. its case against the makers of feel. free, a controversial and widely popular. gas station drug that claims to been the.

property the proprietary mix ofratom and. cava. The decision put the government in. position to present evidence, test its. claims, and potent potentially shut down. a company whose product has faced. widespread allegations of harm. But 12. days later, the DOJ walked away from its. own case. Why? The answer likely has. something to do with the overlapping. relationship between United States. Secretary of Health and Human Services.

Robert F. Kennedy Jr., Mark Wayne. Mullen, the former US senator from. Oklahoma, who recently appointed. Homeland Security Secretary, and a. convicted fraudster named Jerry Cash. And you might say, "Who's Jerry Cash?". Well, >> oh, I know exactly who Jerry Cash is. I. know Jerry Cash. >> Jerry Cash is JW Ross. >> He changed his name after leaving prison. for embezzlement. >> Okay, so this is how small Oklahoma City.

is, you guys. None of us knew whose. stories were here at this time, but. Jerry Cash um lived in Oklahoma City. His name was Jerry Cash, and he um uh. was an oil and gas guy. Big swing and. dick oil and gas guy. And years ago, before I met Josh and had my children, I. went to a um bar with my gay roommate at. the time. His name was Ryan. And I was. waiting for Ryan to get off work. Ryan.

gets off work. We sent it down at the. bar. Ryan is this gorgeous, I mean drop. dead gorgeous. Looks like a Calvin Klein. model gay man. And Jerry, this man comes. in and sits down next to us at the bar. and he kind of talks to me and then he. turns and talks to Ryan and he talks to. me and then he talks to Ryan. I go, "What's your deal? Are you into me or. him?" And he goes, "I like boys. I like. girls and I like boys and girls. I'm.

Jerry Cash. I'd like to buy you both a. drink. I'll never forget it. As long as. I live, I was probably 22 years old and. I remember Ryan and I were like, who is. this weirdo? And I he's basically. because for a man in Oklahoma that. presents the way Jerry Cash presented. which was kind of oil guy cowboy to. admit that he's into screwing men was. very not normal in the Bible belt. So, fast forward and Jerry Cash um marries a.

woman and they're building this huge. house, remodeling this huge house in uh. Nicholls Hills and um then Jerry Cash. goes to prison for some sort of [ __ ] to. do with I'm sure. >> from his former company. That's what it. was. Embezzling. So he goes off to. federal prison and then he gets out of. federal prison and he rebrands to JW.

Ross and goes out to California, changes. his name. Uh wife stays with him the. whole time and then she changes her name. too. And then of course now he's traded. her in for a younger model and he's into. this [ __ ] which this guy's just a total. it's perfect that he's friends with RFK. Jr. >> He's it's perfect that he's in the whole. Trump regime because he likes boys he. likes girls and he likes boys and girls.

I about died when you put that up, Seth, because I knew immediately that JW Ross. did. >> was Jerry Cash. And I will never, as. long as I live, ever forget the time. that uh my friend and I were sitting at. the bar and got hit on by the same man. who openly talked about his bisexuality, which was something that Oklahoma men. are just were not that comfortable with. doing. And then there was, you know, I. mean, he's just a complete train wreck.

But, um, it makes perfect sense that. he's selling them all over the place. >> Yeah. He actually started a company in. Brokenbo, Oklahoma. Uh, and then this. actually brings up my next slide on Mark. Wayne Mullen. So, uh, this was put up by. Punchup on their Substack earlier uh, this month. DHS secretary under fire. over large quote gas station heroin. investment. And it says that Mark Wayne. Mullen pushed a federal cratom crackdown. while holding stake of up to 1 million.

in a company that sells it. And I'm. willing to bet that that company may be. in Broken Bow, Oklahoma, and may involve. our buddy Jerry. >> I'm kind of willing to bet that Mark. Wayne Mullen with a few belts in him. would be the type of guy that would say, "I like boys. I like girls. And I like. boys and girls." You know, there's a. real fine line. Kylie and I talk about. this all the time. There's a real fine. line between like rural people and. lesbians or rural people and and these,

you know, bisexual men that like to like. to switch hit. And so that's why there's. just, you know, all that's why the. number one goal in places of the Bible. is to suppress sexuality, you know, because they're all, you know, they're. all want to [ __ ] everybody, boys, girls, you know. >> Maybe that's what theratom's for. >> They're self-medicating. I will. >> Can I ask you a really dumb question? >> Yeah. >> What What is. >> it. opiate?

>> Okay. >> That people take and it simulates um. heroin or painkillers. >> Got it. >> It's It's horrible. There's been deaths. from. >> the big one is called 70. >> The big one is. >> That's what I was gonna say. like. they're like uh because I've taken it. before and it it's unbelievable like how. many people in AA circles have like had. to detox fromratom, have died ofratom.

overdoses. Like it's the next big. frontier in addiction because it's so. readily available. >> Well, and they push it to help addicts, right? Yeah. >> That's how they marketed specifically. for that kind of thing. >> Yeah. Jerry and Jerry Cash in Oklahoma. City after he went through the, you. know, big swinging dick uh you know, out. at bars. He uh went was sober. He was a. sober person. Then he went off to prison. and then now he's got this reachound.

>> Pun intended. Wonder how. >> total pun intended that. Yeah, he got. out of federal prison. He has a. reachound to his sobriety and his. financial problems with this. But a lot. of people market [ __ ] to addicts and. it's to me the outrage that everybody. had for the Sackler family. You need to. have for these pushers ofratom. um and the pharmaceutical industry at. large and now all of these supplements. and [ __ ] because addiction is something.

that just hits everybody. I mean it it. affects conservatives, MAGA, gays, straits. I like boys, I like girls. It. affects all of them. >> I like both. I like both. I like to I. like to. >> and and Trump is the perfect guy for all. of these shysters that like love just. stealing money off of hurting people. He's the perfect guy to have in office. to just oh, let's kick this uh this. regulation investigation under the rug. so Mark Wayne can keep his million-doll.

investment in gas station heroin. It all. clocks. >> Okay, I'm gonna go next. Now, I would like to play a video. So, all of us on this uh uh stream right. now, we're all Oklahoma City Thunder fan. fans. Ryan was kind of he's No, he is. He's a basketball plant basketball fan. >> and we told him in order to work for us. that he needed to be a Thunder fan. So, he met us at the Thunderbar and I was.

able to pull that off because the head. of my HR is my personal assistant, Anna, who happens to be Kylie's girlfriend. So, I told Anna if you get an HR. complaint because I told the new hireer, Ryan, that he had to be a Thunder fan, rip it up and throw it in the trash. And. so, we've just moved on. So, I digress. Everybody is a Thunder fan on this. stream. And I love the Oklahoma City. Thunder, but I and we're playing right. now currently the San Antonio Spurs. And I have to say I have to give credit.

where credit is due. Wimby is not only a. sensation on the court, he is the real. deal as a human being. He was asked. about ICE. >> and he used his platform and he said. this. Play the clip. >> PR has tried but I'm not going to sit. here and give some politely correct. You. know, I know uh I mean I'm this every day I. wake up and see the news and I'm. horrified. I think that it's crazy that some people.

might make it seem like or make it sound. like it's acceptable. The murder like. the murder of civilians is acceptable. you know, every day. I mean, I I read the news and. I'm sometimes I'm asking very deep. questions about my own life. But, you. know, I'm conscious also that. saying everything, you know, that's on. my mind would have a cost that's too. great for me right now. So, it's uh I'd.

rather not get into too many details. >> Okay. So, I just think that people of. conscience. um need to speak out about this. It is. not political. Speaking out for innocent. people and speaking out for human rights. and speaking out against fascism is not. political. It is moral. And I don't even. consider our podcast to be political. anymore. I consider it to be one of. morals because right now you see two. distinct camps. people that.

suck up to fascists, people who are too. cowardous to speak out to fascists, and. then you see the fighters, and the. people who remain silent are every bit. as bad to me as the people who like. Steven Miller who openly, brazenly bask. in their uh support of fascism and their. support of bigotry. And then you have. the fighters and all of us here, this is. a starting five of fighters. I'm Wimi. or SGA.

>> You can be Shay. >> I'll be Chad. >> Okay. >> I'm Nick Collison. >> Nick. >> It's okay. I like it. >> Hardinstein. >> Hardin. See, he is a Thunder. Nick, >> I am a basketball fan. >> So, what are your what are your what's. your opinion on Wim, you guys? >> Hell yeah. I mean, he. he is watching, first of all, watching. him play basketball is just.

unbelievable. Like, just such an. unbelievable talent and to have a. platform like that. Um, and to know that. you're going to get so much push back, especially, you know, being a foreigner. playing in the US. Um, I think there are. so many. celebrities and just people who feel so. like burnt out from this administration. And I think maybe that's a small part in. why there aren't as many people speaking.

out um, you know, as there were during. Trump's first term. But. it's so important because the stuff that. he's doing right now is some of the. worst stuff he's ever done. and we need. more people speaking out about it. >> Let me ask a question cuz I took part of. what he said as him being kind of honest. that maybe he would get in trouble with. the NBA if he spoke out or the other. camp would be he would just get a lot of. blowback from fans. What did you think.

when I heard that? Okay, first of all, San Antonio San Antonio former head. coach Greg Papovich is extremely. politically active and very progressive. So for him to say that about I don't. want to get in trouble, I kind of felt. like it was more NBA fan. I think that. with the shut up and dribble crowd, I. think that that whole movement has had a. chilling effect on these players. But.

again, the NBA empowers their players to. speak out way more than like the NFL. But I just thought, you know, here's the. deal. It's the it's anyone's first. amendment right to say how they feel. Yes, you have to expect the. consequences, but it's stunning to me that he has to. think like I live, you know, I'm. currently live in the United States and. if I say something against this. administration, it will have blowback. I.

might have to have my visa pulled or or. whatever the ramifications that he's. thinking of. And I just think that it's. a sad sad day this Trump administration. for freedom of speech, assembly, all the. freedoms that we are so used to and take. for granted. I think that they have. really been like trampled on in this. administration. I think the fact that he is foreign. >> and from France and he chose to do it.

shows you how cowardice a lot of. Americans are. >> Yes. >> And so I'm team Wimby. Go ahead, Seth. >> Yeah. I took it as just more of a hit at. the administration and like how eager. they are to silence people cuz like. imagine the uh just the perspective of. being a world famous immigrant or a. world famous foreigner living in the. United States and being beloved and then. seeing people that are just like you.

from other countries living in America. being ripped from their homes, having. their children ripped from them, being. shot in the street and having to come to. terms with the fact like, oh, the real. difference between me and them is I'm. accepted because I have money and a. skill that people will put aside. They'll put aside my blackness and my. being foreign because I'm good at. basketball. But if I were. Joe Blow making 40 grand a year, I'm.

fair game to get killed in the street. >> Yeah, agree. All right, Pumps. What's. your story? >> Okay, mine is so delicious. I have gone down the Katie Miller rabbit. hole. I'm I'm embarrassed to admit it, but I have. So, I found this article. regarding Katie and Steven's marriage. Put this up because I thought the title. was fabulous. Super bad true love story. And it says, "Two Trump favorites, both alike, in.

igniminy, Steven Miller and Katie. Waldman, found love in a hateful place.". Okay, this is a great article. It's. long. So, let me just summarize it for. you a little bit. These are two people. that are absolutely. deplorable. So Katie Miller in this. shot, this is when she got to the. University. of Florida, she was described as the. only thing she loves or values in this.

world is power. Anyone she attaches to. in her life is simply a pond to feed her. addiction to it. She went around, there was an election. for student government at the University. of Florida. She went around and took all. of the flyers so people couldn't read. and be reminded of the candidates and. the issues at stake for student. government. When she got called out. about it, she was completely indignant. Go [ __ ] yourself. Here is encapsulating.

Katie Miller from high school. The. reporter said, "If I could find one. person that would say they were their. friend, were her friend, I should get a. Pulitzer Prize." That said a lot. And. then she there was at her school which. both she and Steven Miller are very. affluent Jewish families. She goes to the school she has a teacher. in high school that is teaching black. history. And Katie Miller says, "Why do we have to learn history? Why.

can't we just tell them what happened?". Got in an argument with her black. teacher and quit going to class. She is like I kind of thought like how. does somebody get married to Steven. Miller? She not only is she as bad, she. might be worse. And that is a low bar. Like I think Steven Miller is the worst. of the worst in this administration. And here's one thing I just thought you. guys would love. I have to bring it up. So prior to meeting Katie Walden, who is.

now Katie Miller, they've only been. married since 2020. This is their fourth. kid. she or he was at a family dinner and. someone asked before he met her, "How's. your love life?" He went [ __ ]. ballistic. and was like, "Nobody can talk about. that. That is off limits." I'm like, "Of. course, because she's the only person on. the planet that would actually go out. with him because she's every bit as bad.

as he is." So, those were just my little. takeaways that I thought were super. interesting about her. That'll really. make you believe in soulmates, doesn't. it? >> It will. Like, how did she's from. Florida, he's from California. How do. these hateful people find each other? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. They say love finds a way. Hate. found a way in this in this regard. >> For sure. >> For sure. >> Yeah. I mean, these two people, it just. cracks me up how she is.

like she's, you know, into her podcast. She's Americans are shortsighted. MAGA. Americans are even shortersided and. they're breeding. They're having all. these babies and I mean Stephen Miller. will be one of the very first when. accountability comes. That [ __ ]. with that face and that little body will. be one of the very first thrown under. the bus. And Trump and others will do it. enthusiastically because he just looks. like a villain. There is a body of. evidence supporting what a villain he. is, what a racist he is, how he wants to.

be a student of Joseph Gobles, etc. and. they just, you know, it's high times. Let's all breed. Let's all get pregnant. at the same time. And this is, we'll. circle back in three years. We'll do a. little check-in on the Millers. And I. can tell you it's not going to be high. times champagne and cocaine any longer. for those two. >> Pump. So, when you were reading that, it. made me think of this uh Steven Miller. He ran for student government in high. school. And there's this video of him. saying, and I looked up the quote, his. pitch to these students is, "Am I the.

only one who is sick and tired of being. told to pick up our trash when we have. plenty of janitors who are paid to do it. for us?" Like, >> that was in the article. How gross. >> Disgusting. >> It's disgusting. >> Yeah. >> Okay. And last but not least, Ryan. >> Um, I will just say that if it is the. Thunder and the Knicks in the NBA. Finals, I will be rooting for the. Knicks. And I'm sorry if that's an HR. violation. I'll take it up. I'll take it. up with.

>> Anna. Playoffs. >> So, you're rooting for the Knicks, huh? >> I am. I mean, >> you're not worried about job security at. all? At all. I just want to our. listeners market. >> as of the end of the finals, especially. if the Knicks win in the Thunderdome, I'll be salty AF and I'll be hiring a. new producer. >> Will be a distant memory. >> Well, let's hope it doesn't come to. >> Here's the thing. I love I love.

basketball and I think it's fun to have. uh to smack talk among friends, you. know, cheer for this team, cheer for. that team. At the end of the day, all of. these guys that play for all of these. cities that we care so much about, they. can be traded and be in a new city like. that. So, I think some people take it. way too seriously. Um, but I do love the. Thunder. And if the Thunder get past. Wimby, >> who is like a freak genetically and is a. total physical specimen. If they get and. badass, you know, as far as human rights.

go, >> if they get behind. sweep, the New York Knicks, it's going. to be salty. And I plan to go to these games and I'm. going to be decked out in OKC merch from. head to toe. And I want the [ __ ] you. I. want them to just verbally abuse me. because that will feel good. I want to. be a massochist. I want to be at Madison. Square Gardens and face verbal abuse. because I will like it. I will.

>> You will face it. >> Yeah. I I I will enjoy it. Wouldn't you, Pumps? >> Yeah. And you know what's so funny is. you hear about that all the time, but we. went to a game there when the Thunder. played the Knicks. And the Knicks fans. were so so nice to us. Yeah. >> They were so nice. >> Yeah. I have a [ __ ] stir with you. I ask. I'm not going to because I am a grownup. >> I think I know what you're going to ask. >> It's kind of a I mean I I think about it. a lot when I see.

>> what question Wimi. >> like. >> Oh, you're thinking about his penis. >> Yes. >> I knew she was I knew she. >> We have got to get pumps laid. It's just. unbelievable. >> But I mean you have to wear this large. Of course it is tall. He cannot have a 4. in slim. It's just not it it it's not. proportional. >> Of course, it's probably donkey/horse. teetering scale-wise. I of course it's. large. >> Plus, people who call out ice don't have.

tiny dicks. >> There you go. >> That's for sure. That's a great. >> [ __ ] great point, Seth. Okay, Ryan, what was your besides being a salty. future Salty Knicks fan, >> what's your story? >> So, Trump hasn't forgotten about wanting. to take over Greenland. So, he's he's. found Jeff Landry, who's the former. governor of Louisiana, and he's made him. his special envoy. Uh, and he made a. visit to Greenland the other day, and.

uh, it didn't go very well for him. >> I ask you a question. Let me ask you. something. When's the last time. that any highlevel diplomats came to. Greenland, whether it's from Europe or. not, before Donald Trump? But that's. just more about. >> No, no, no, NO. THAT'S NOT NO, that's a. question that Greenlanders should ask. themselves. Who cares more about. Greenlanders than the Trump. administration and the president? Because seemingly before the president,

no one cared. >> But why don't rather than just come. >> So that's one of many videos. There's. another video of he asks a kid. He says, "Oh, do you want to take a picture with. me?" And the kid says, "No." like these. It's just such an embarrassment. >> I've never heard of this guy. He is not. a highle diplomat. >> That's what I was gonna say. >> He is a brown-nosing uh uh rube, a total. rube from Moses Mike Grinder Johnson's.

home state of Louisiana. He's a [ __ ]. extraordinaire. Um, and all he is doing. is putting on display in Greenland, Americans are stupid and confident at. the same time. They are confident in. their stupidity. He just threw a master. class. I am the dumbest [ __ ] in. Greenland right now. But [ __ ]. I'm confident. And this is what people. think of Americans. Confident in their.

stupidity. oblivious to the fact that. they're stupid. And this is just again, we'll do a little circle back with this. guy when we check back in with uh. Stephen and Katie Miller. And I. guarantee you this guy will be in the. fetal position, snot slinging on some, you know, witness stand. >> Yeah, he's bad. The only thing I think. of when I think of him is.

he I mean Louisiana is poor. They don't. have health care. Like there the poverty. rate is huge. And this [ __ ]. went in and got involved in the LSU co. football coaching surge. >> This guy. >> Yes. And Matt and was like pouring. like all this money into it. And the. whole time I'm just like, you don't have. enough money for education, for health. care, for food, for housing, but you.

want to put focus all your time and. state resources into the LSU football. team. And here's the thing, I mean, I don't know if he's up for. re-election, but Mike Johnson keeps. getting reelected. Like, some people. cannot help themselves. >> No. the Bible belt states as we know. I. mean, I realized after multiple multiple. multiple multiple things that I did in. Oklahoma to try to get enact change. They the Bible belt people do not want.

this. They are perfectly fine being. bottom 10 states. They are perfectly. fine um fighting for billionaires while. they go broke. They are completely fine. with it. And you have to come to that. reality because I kept thinking, "No, if. they only knew. They know. >> They know and they don't care.". >> Listener, I know a lot of you are. parents or pet parents or you just don't. like having a lot of unknown chemicals.

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branchbasics.com. after you purchase when they ask where. you heard about them. Please make sure. to mention our show. Let me ask you all this, particularly. Pumps. There's been some talk since. antilack racism is the largest form of. bigotry that is on the rise in the. United States of America, but nobody. will even really talk about that. because, you know, we have to talk about. everything else before we help our black. brothers and sisters in this country. Um, and a lot of people like NAACP, I.

believe, and others are suggesting that. in these Bible belt states where college. football is right there with Jesus, it's. like Jesus and in our state, Oklahoma. Sooners, >> that these black athletes should say. they will not play football in Alabama, in Florida, in, you know, Virginia. I. mean, Virginia people tried, but Texas,

etc. And I support it. I don't want. black people to black athletes to. alienate themselves from. future career, all of that. But I think. it's going to take something that. massive because every racist I know in. Oklahoma. >> is a diehard Oklahoma Sooner football. fan. Their whole identity is wrapped up. into cheering on black athletes. >> Yeah. Okay. So when uh Oklahoma passed. the total abortion ban, Oklahoma.

softball, University of Oklahoma. softball is huge. And I thought to. myself, I wish that women that were. being recruited would say, I will not. come to Oklahoma because women do not. have rights. That didn't happen. And then in terms of. these athletes going to H.B.CU, which. would be ideal, here's here's the. fundamental issue. The black athlete is. then paying for the racism in the NIL. era because they make more money going.

to Alabama, Clemson, Texas, LSU. than they do at an H.B.CU because they. have I mean people are willing donors. are willing to spend millions and. millions and millions of dollars. I. think that's the that's the point of the. NAACP's. proposal. >> is that civil rights take sacrifice. >> and and that we are what is the next. step? What is the next step beyond what.

they're legally doing with the Supreme. Court just did with the Voting Rights. Act? And it takes immense sacrifice to. fight for. equality. And we all still look at this. through the lens of well, you know, football still needs to be supported and. the financial this is an existential. issue for black Americans. >> Yeah. And if we keep seeding and not. fighting and not helping them, um, you. know, I I don't if they go to HBCU, I.

think that it it could it could change. because until you hit the white man's. pocketbook, and black athletes could definitely hit. their pocketbook. Um, they will just. keep exploiting people. And so I think. it's going to take some sort of. sacrifice. So my question larger than. that is, you know, Pumps, you know, a. lot of racist Oklahoma Sooners football. fans, if the black athletes ceased going.

there and stated because the state of. Oklahoma was inherently majority racist, how would that impact the people that. you know personally that are racist in. Oklahoma that are diehard Oklahoma. Sooners football fans? Would they would. that exacerbate their racism or would. that make them think about it? >> It would make them think about it. There's no question. I mean, that's the. immediate like we're only going to go to. a blue state, you know, we we only want. to go to USC or a California school.

Then that would change the tune. I think. it would bring change for the law. I. mean, I I really do. I think it would. make a monumental impact almost. immediately. I just wish there would be. a way to punish. the fan versus punish the athlete. >> I don't think it's I don't we don't know. that those ash athletes would be punish. punished, but I do think you punish. these public schools,

>> the University of Oklahoma. look at the. way they treated that trans um professor. teachers aid and you punish the systems. around it to enact change and uh I think. it's something that I think major things. like that are going to have to happen. because it's kind of like that one viral. video that I had a while back like. living around a bunch of racists. These. people do not ever. >> just live in white culture. They're.

always dabbling, you know, testing out. multiculturalism. Mexican restaurant, Oklahoma City Thunder game, Oklahoma. Sooners football game, and they just. take and uh take minority intercultural. multicultural excellence for granted. And I I think that this is I think. that's how existential the anti-black. racism is in this world. I think that if. we are not listening to what the Supreme. Court did with the Voting Votings Right. Act and we're not putting everything on. the table right now and we're not.

understanding how [ __ ] ser serious. this is for black people, we are letting. our color and our privilege show. I agree. But I still think it it's an. awful lot to ask of a player that's. going to get a $5 million contract. Like. I'm going to cut you a check for five. million to say no. I mean, at 18 years old, I think that's. too I think that's. >> right. But this is where you work. together with other schools in other. states to enact change. This is where.

we're still looking at it like, well, this is the only opportunity this. student has. Where if the student did go. to USC or the student did go to UCLA. where football programs may not be as. big and donors who care about um. stamping out antilack racism. That's. where it's all hands on deck where you. meet some compromise where you say look. these kids are going to end up in. Alabama where they have completely or. Tennessee where they have completely. gerrymandered the [ __ ] where they have. zero black representation where that.

Josh Hypel who used to be in Oklahoma. Sooner is the head coach of Tennessee. start [ __ ] with their football. program and have some liberal uh donors. in other states pick up the slack. That's what it's going to take. I had uh. Van Laam on the podcast last weekend to. speak about issues like this and this is. a serious thing and I think the black. community is seriously going to go full. tilt on this and I as will be the. biggest most staunch ally in this.

support because I believe the antilack. racism and the gutting of the voting. rights act is existential. >> No, I agree. And if they could go and. not have to be. >> like give up their opportunity, I would. be all for it. And I would move it to. like softball programs, women's sports. programs. Do not go to states where. women do not have rights. Do not go and. play sports for states that will not. allow you to vote. Like I would say all.

of it. I would be all in on all of it if. the athletes could come out still. earning their position and the NIL. money. >> Here's the problem, too. What people. don't realize with this, what a. shortsightedsided argument it is with. NIL money. Right now, they'll use that. But if they're taking away your your. representation, next they're going to. take away your right to vote. Next, they're going to take away your money. Yeah. Yeah. >> So, it is a slippery slope to play patty. cake with racists and think that they.

are going to protect you or think that. their systems are going to protect you. when they just are taking victory laps. right now about dismantling the voting. right right act. So, I believe I see. your shortsighted point, but when it. comes to black Americans, we have to be. holistic and think about this as a whole. point because they are not going to stop. at the Voting Rights Act. They will not. stop at just that. They didn't stop at. women. Gay marriage is on the table. You. know, it's just all of it is on the.

table. All right. Happy Memorial Day to everybody. Enjoy. your Monday. Those were our that is our. all skate and um we will be back. tomorrow with breaking news. If. something major happens today, sorry, we're all taking the day off.