IHIP News: MAGA Christians Are WAKING UP to Trump's EVIL Cult!! He's Losing His BASE!
There are a lot of Americans that have a. very normal spiritual relationship with. their religion. It's private or familial. and it's something that brings light and. serenity into their lives. If you have. that type of relationship with your. faith, I'm not talking about you. But. we're we're about to start talking about. our white evangelical megaurch. Christians and the damage that they are. doing to this country. And I have long.
felt that evangelical, white evangelical. Christianity is in fact a cult. And I'm. not alone in thinking this. Kylie, pop. up the first slide. Um Tim Whitaker. says, "I'm finally saying it. The. evangelical world that raised me was a. cult." Next slide. I grew up in a world. where disagreeing with doctrine meant. you were a heretic who needed to be. promptly scolded. where your church was. the only biblical one and everyone else.
was lukewarm at best, hellbound at. worst. Next one. And now we're watching. the end result unfold in real time. A. religious political cult that sees Jesus. as a mascot for their team, not a savior. to be followed. Next. But they follow the Jesus of the. basement, the conquering strongman, the. defender of their distorted vision of. truth, the punisher of outsiders, the.
Jesus who kidnaps immigrants and. separates them from their children. That's the Jesus they worship. Trump is their version of Christ. incarnate. He's been sent by God to. quote, "Make America great again.". That's why they excuse everything he. does. The lies, the cruelty, the. corruption, the authoritarianism, the. hatred of the other. In a cult, the leader must be defended.
at all costs. If the leader is. undermined, the entire identity of the. group collapses. So, they defend the. indiffensible. I grew up in the basement of. Christianity, the dark, damp, musty. place. That basement was a cult. After years of watching the evangelical. world I grew up in, the Christian. nationalism, the Trump Messiah complex, the double standard around protect the. children, I think it's time to stop.
softening the language and finally have. my come to Jesus moment. I grew up in a world where questioning. the pastor was considered rebellion. I'm not saying Christianity is a cult. I. am saying the basement I was raised in. acted like one. I didn't lose Jesus when I left the. basement. I found him. So again, this is. from Tim Whitaker Pump. What what are. what's your take on what he experienced. and the conclusion he came to?
Well, you know, this is my lived. experience and when I look back and it. this whole Trump thing has caused me to. look back a lot and I realized the. church I was raised in evangelical. um you know Jesus was kind. Jesus washed. the feet of other people. All that. stuff. Yet he had an affair on his wife. and the whole church knew about him. But. he asked for forgiveness and so it was. fine. >> Who had an affair on his wife? >> The pastor.
>> Oh, okay. the pastor of this big mega. church. [snorts] And so it was I started. excusing indefensible behavior at a very. young age because it was immediately. within my family and I apparently the. church at large because he didn't step. down. It was I'm going to, you know, I'm. going to get in front of the church. I'm. going to say what I did wrong. I'm going. to ask for Jesus's forgiveness and we're. just going to keep going. And and I. think for me that's where it started. where I was able to deny certain facts.
and I was able to say, "Okay, well, you. know, he's doing better now and excuse. inexcusable behavior." And then when you. were reading that, it reminded me of a. conversation I had with a family member. before the election who is, "You have to. be a virgin before you get married. You. cannot have sex if you are not married.". I mean, super purity culture. And I. said, "How do you reconcile Donald Trump. having a new baby, having an affair with. a playmate, and having sex with a porn.
star [snorts] if you're like your whole. thing is controlling sex? It was. immediately dismissed." And in my mind, there are really two reasons why it was. dismissed. Obviously, misogyny, but. that's not one of my two. Because. institutionalized misogyny in these. evangelical churches is it's like. breathing. It's everywhere. But it is I. I want to talk the talk, but when it. comes down to it, I like money and I.
want my money to stay with me. Meaning. tax breaks and racism. Trump hates. everybody else they hate. And it is easy. for these people to excuse the behavior. because they've been doing it for me my. entire lifetime. Excusing indefensible. behavior is a way of life. And you're. able to just disassociate with it and. say, "Well, you know, God forgave him, so I have to, too." That's that's what. we do. I just think a lot of these mega. churches when they focus so much on the.
tithing and the growth of the church. like I remember growing up in my friends. high school friends if they took me to a. mega church there was always a big. emphasis on tithing and we're growing. the church we have a new location. opening up etc. It's this focus on money. and it's rarely ever a focus on um. really helping people. Um you know, I. told you pumps the other day in view. I. told you I was walking in New York and I. saw a church in Oklahoma and in in New.
York. There's not that many obviously, but it had a trans flag, a pride flag, a. Black Lives Matter flag, and then a. banner that said refugees and immigrants. welcome. And I thought, you know, if. churches were more like that, I wonder. if I would have joined one. If they were. more of a place where you went to have a. moral centering to get outside of. yourself. And I think there's something. that capitalism. and evangelical Christianity have in. common. And it's the focus on me. It is.
this me me. And a lot of white. evangelical Christians have this. component of Christian narcissism. And. Pumps, you describe it as I think I'm. better than everybody else, which is. that level of Christian narcissism. And. sometimes I go and I look at these like. big megaurch pastors Instagram post. because I find religion kind of. fascinating that so many people would be. a member of a church. And it's all about. like in in the throws of all of this.
injustice that we're seeing, you know, like immigrants being separated. I mean, just people being murdered for sport in. the Caribbean, people being kidnapped. for sport and sent to uh El Salvador for. sport, having alligators surrounding. them in a prison. All that's for sport. These guys get off on it. The one thing. that these churches, they never talk. about any of that, which I think is. really interesting. I because that's. what if if Jesus were real and he were. here right now, that's what he would be.
talking about. Instead, it's so. hyperfocused on your personal. relationship with God. >> and every little thing you do and this. personal relationship. And for me, because everybody has can be [ __ ] up. as a person. We all have moments. We're. like, "Oh, God, Jennifer, god damn it, you were so [ __ ] up there." when I'm. the most [ __ ] up as a person is when. I'm too Jennifer centered, you know, like yeah, >> you have to take care of yourself and. have boundaries to protect yourself, but. you also have to bear in mind you're not.
the only person on the planet. So, I. think that capitalism and the Republican. version of capitalism, my pocketbook, but my taxpayer dollars, my dime if it doesn't affect me. You. hear that a lot and it it's the same. thing from evangelicals to Christian. Republicanism. is the me me. Well, and and here's the thing. The. demonizing of the poor. Yes, that's a.
Republican, you know, I've since Reagan, that's been what it is. But it it starts. in the churches in that we're going to. help the poor because we're better than. the poor. sends a message that we're. going to help the poor because we're. better than the poor. But we don't. Growing up, it wasn't that we helped. everybody because we were better. We got. to pick and choose who we were going to. help. We didn't have to help everybody. Not everybody was on the same playing. field. And so, it's kind of graduated in. terms of who you're going to help.
>> Sorry to cut you off, but I want to ask. you something I think is really. important. Don't you think a lot of the mega. churches now there are churches that. genuinely do massive outreach and the. whole mission to to help marginalized. and people suffering. We're not talking. about those. >> the mega churches that do this uh it's a. big performative thing. It's a Bible. >> churches, >> right? We're going to help these poor. people here and we're going to brag. about it and we're going to post about. it and at the same time we're going to.
go vote against anything that. systemically could help these people in. their trajectory. And that's what I. always see is a complete hypocrisy in. those two components that there is this. well, oh yeah, we, you know, we gave. gifts to a poor family for Christmas and. then we're not going to do anything when. it comes to the ballot box because of. our own personal tax dollars. We're not. going to do anything to help. And then I. just want to leave you with this, Pumps.
Did you see it's about a month ago, month and a half ago, the governor of. Oklahoma, our governor, >> Yeah. Kevin Stit, he was talking about. homeless people. Did you see this video? >> Yeah, I saw it. >> Listener, he was talking and this is a. really, really religious person, evangelical, mega church, sends his kids. to, you know, private Christian school, etc., dedicated every square inch of the. state to Jesus. He said that it wasn't. the state's job to help homeless people. just very dismissively in a very.
dehumanizing manner. Spoke about them. And this is just something I think that. this Tim Whitaker that wrote that there. I think he's right. I think that this is. a cult. >> Well, yeah. And you look at Fox News and. they're going to just kill homeless. people. Like the empathy that you're. taught in Sunday school or the empathy. that I taught was taught in Sunday. school is not acted out upon by the. flock. That is not what we talked about. and how we behaved and excused behavior.
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