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Today I'm here with Tara Paul Mary who. has been a reporter that has been on the. Epstein story for a decade at least. I. want to ask her some questions regarding. the victims. Tara, thank you for being. on. How are you? >> I'm good. Thanks for having me. It's. such a pleasure to be on your show. I'm. a fan. So I'm happy to be here. >> I've digest everything you do over on. Substack with the Red Letter. It's. excellent. One thing and this I didn't. even have this on my topic because I. wanted to talk to you about but when. this whole story first came out I was.

like who is Gain Maxwell? What kind of. woman. >> would do this to little girls? >> And then I found all the information on. her father and how she was raised. And. if you'll just hit the highlights, you. know, two or three highlights of what. his behavior was like for the. >> Yeah. He Yeah, he was a disgusting. person. Uh I the power of the Maxwell. series is almost like a succession type.

series because. >> he was a powerful media baron. I mean he. owned the New York Daily News. He owned. the Mirror which was a huge influential. newspaper in the UK. He owned MTV. Europe, Paragon Press, McMillan. I mean. he was larger than life. his rival at. the time was Rupert Murdoch and they. fought for publication. So like think of. her as like the daughter of Rupert. Murdoch of like as Elizabeth Murdoch. I.

mean that's how powerful her family was. And he died mysteriously off the side of. a yacht. He was thought to be a spy um. for MSAD uh which is the Israeli. intelligence agency. But in the. meantime, he was really quite vile. And. the people that we interviewed for this. podcast that worked for him described a. man that that that treated people around. him terribly, including his own. daughter, Glenn Maxwell, frequently. bringing her to tears, putting her down, you know, telling her that she's not.

smart, but at the same time praising her. for her beauty and for her charm and for. being like him. He was obviously a. narcissist, but he would do things like. urinate off the side of his hel his. launch pad, his helicopter launch pad. It was at the top of the building that. he that he owned in the UK. Um, and then. he would use hand towels that were. communal for his behind and then put. them down. He would throw food at. people. He was entirely disparaging. Uh,

just really. not a great guy. I mean, even uh Tina. Brown wrote about Galen Maxwell talking. about how he would beat her up. Uh I. often wondered if they had some sort of. disturbing relationship that might be. borderline, you know, sexual abuse. there. I don't have any. I don't have any hard facts to suggest. that, but it just feels like there's. something weird about it. I mean, at the.

same time, his former assistant told me. that they would meow at each other on. the phone. So, they had this very close. bond and he would bring her to parties. and treat her as if he was as if she was. his wife and marvel at her beauty in. kind of the same way that Trump does. with Ivanka. And um he named his yacht, the Lady Galen, after her. This is the. yacht he mysteriously died off of. So, they had a lot of weird weird issues.

But when he died, because he was. defrauding pensioners at the mirror and. was in debt, she was left with nothing. And so she went from being a princess. going to Oxford, being royalty almost to. having nothing. And that's where Jeffrey. Epstein steps in. And I I think. sometimes her desperation for the high. life to resume that level that she was. at with her father drew her to Jeffrey. Epstein because people I've interviewed. like Jeffrey Epstein's house manu.

Allesie said that Glenn used to cry in. the car when she drove around looking. for young girls to procure and groom at. and and she would say she hates him cuz. he would put her down and call her. stupid sort of like her father did. But. she couldn't leave him. She felt she. couldn't leave him. I mean, I think. there was a and then she had put it in a. in a file in a court file that Jeffrey. Epstein promised to provide for her. financially for the rest of her life. So, what does that mean?

I mean, seems to me that he was her. financial backer in exchange for. procuring, molesting, grooming. as many as a thousand victims according. to the FBI. >> And she participated in it. She didn't. only procure them, but from what I've. read, she participated in some of the. abuse. Correct. >> Yeah. I mean, Virginia Du Fry testified. that the first time she arrived at. Jeffrey Epstein's house,

Glenn Maxwell found her, by the way, at. Mara Lago, where she was working at the. spa at 16, brought her back to Jeffrey. Epste's house, and he and Glenn was the. one that took off her panties and and. was involved in the sexual abuse at in. the house. Same thing with Annie Farmer, who said that Glenn Maxwell and and. Jeffrey were in the same room, and it. was Glenn that fondled her. And so, you. know, she was involved in this just as. much as uh Jeffrey. And I just think she. used the fact that she was this.

beguiling posh British woman with this. cute little dog that she called Gmax, a. little Yorkie, to bring girls in and she. used that to trap them. And and I wrote. this piece for Politico called the women. who enabled Jeffrey Epstein. And it's a. pyramid and Glenn is at the top of it. But, you know, you don't walk into a. 50-some year old man's house as a. teenage girl without feeling a comfort. And that comfort came from the fact that. there were so many adult women around.

Jeffrey Epsteine. And Glenn Maxel was at. the top of that. And she lured them in. And she actually had a a real talent for. smelling desperation and being able to. promise people that their dreams could. be made true. And in the case of. Virginia, Virginia was reading a book. about how to become a masseuse. And she. said, "I've got a dream job for you. A. wealthy man is going to pay you to. travel around the world with him and. learn how to be a masseuse." And this is. a girl who, by the way, was being. sexually molested by her own father and.

living in poverty in a trailer. So. yeah. Well, I read Virginia's book and I. was heartbroken by it. >> because I guess. >> as cynical as I am, I wanted a happy. ending for her. >> and she didn't get it. >> And there were so many girls in her. position that I think we forget how. traumatized they are for their entire. lives. And it's my understanding that. Virginia is not the only one of these.

survivors who has taken her own life. is. hasn't there been more than one? >> Yeah. No, you're absolutely right. I. mean, there are many of them and like. they've done it in different ways. Uh. ver for example, Courtney Wild, who's. Jane do one in the case against Jeffrey. Epstein. She is still alive but nearly died. I. mean, she got a settlement from Jeffrey, a civil settlement, I think. I'm not. sure entirely sure what it was, but it. was enough for her to buy a house. and. she ended up spending all the money on.

drugs and alcohol and ending up in a a. actual like supermax prison in Florida. Okay. Um. while Jeffrey Epstein was in a county. jail. Like it's just crazy. And so she. used the settlement because she felt. like she was being paid again for her. services like a prostitute. >> Um even though she showed up at his. house with braces as like a 14year-old. Um, and so so many of these women are. tormented by it and then they use drugs,

they use alcohol, they they take their. lives. Um, and they don't feel better by. the money. So this whole idea that it's. some sort of money grab, I think a lot. of them see that actually the money is. not. is not actually what is not what they. want. They want justice, like they want. to feel like their pain was worth. something. And I'm just I was really. impressed by Courtney because she fought. the Crime Victim's Rights Act case which. ended up being the propeller of uh.

really the journalism that Julie K. Brown did um with Brad Edwards was. Julie's was uh Courtney's lawyer. He put. together this whole case claiming that. the government through this sweetheart. deal never actually told the victims. about the sweetheart deal and therefore. it was invalid and reopened the case. And so like what she did was incredible. I mean again another person who has been. through so much has shown so much. fortitude and suffered and and is still.

out there. I mean I saw her on Capitol. Hill and I was just like wow you know. you you're here. You're doing it. Um. yeah it's incredible. Let me ask you. this. I've I've read so many things. about how Glaine would say to these. survivors. I need you to do for him what. you did to Jeffrey. [snorts] So it was a. procurement for other men it throughout. the scheme. How aware were these girls. that that was part that that was coming.

or was it just like I mean I think I. read that Virginia was like oh she's. having a great time. She's doing all. this with Chris Andrew and then it's. like you need to do for him what you do. for Jeffrey. >> So that was part of the scheme. Correct. >> Yeah. I think I mean it was a. trafficking operation and it wasn't just. for Jeffrey Epstein. Um some of the. girls had were were only at Jeffrey. Epstein's once and were abused and never. came back. Some returned. Um it's really.

I think a lot about grooming and. trafficking, their age, their family. situation. Like some people are just. especially young girls that come from. broken households. they're more likely. to be abused and trafficked and um be in. the kind of situations where this would. happen, particularly the girls that came. over from Eastern Europe. There were a. lot of them. Uh his best friend had a. modeling agency and he co-owned it. It. was called um MC Squared with it was. with John Luke Bernell who by the way.

mysteriously died in prison by hanging. himself. And they brought over a lot of. young girls from Eastern Europe and took. their passports away. They're in. completely vulnerable situations working. for Jeffrey Epstein as essentially sex. slaves. Like he would refer to them as. sex slaves. And what were they supposed. to do? And so yeah, that was part of it. Like they had to also service his. friends. And um it's it's vile. I mean. this is what happens not just to this is.

this happens all unfortunately sex. trafficking is a real problem in this. country and I think and all over the. world but this is highlighting it. because of the vastness of it and the. level in which the clients are so high. level um you know heads of financial. institutions academia politics uh that. that's what's brought it to the. forefront but sex trafficking is a real. problem it's just Not. It's in the. shadows, unfortunately.

>> Right. And this case brought it up. I. remember my son said, "Bill Clinton's on. this uh plane all the time with this. famous sex trafficker." And I was like, and he was like in high school at the. time. He's grown now. And I was like, if. Bill Clinton were on a plane with a sex. trafficker, it would be the front page. news of every story. And it turned out. he was right. Like it was in page six. It was. >> right. I mean, five years later, this. whole thing. And I'm just like, how have. we ignored this for so long? One thing.

that the New York Post wrote about it, but I do think that that shows you how. powerful the Clinton media machine is, that they were able to quash this story. for so long from the mainstream press. Like that is scary to me and shows you. also how much Epstein owned the press. Yeah. >> And Bill Clinton and his family owned. the press and why the story was allowed. to remain quiet for so long. So that. that's my take on why your son read it. because he was probably reading. alternate press but mainstream media. wouldn't go near it,

>> right? As they still do now. But that's. a whole different topic for another day. I have been fascinated by and I've asked. different attorneys. But were the girls. aware they were being videotaped having. sex with these men while they were at. Jeffrey Epstein's properties? You know, that's a really good question. I have heard from. survivors that they saw cameras. everywhere and assume that they were. being recorded. You can see them even in. the photographs from the New York Times. inside of Jeffrey Epstein's townhouse.

There is a camera in every corner. You. could claim they're security cameras, but. >> footage from security cameras. compromise, >> but to your usually put a security. camera inside of a bedroom, >> right? Why would you need a security. camera in a bedroom? Um, and then we. heard Howard Lutnik say, "Well, he. recorded everything and he bribed people. with these these videootapes." So, my. question, I guess, is as we've seen in. other cases of powerful men that.

recorded sex, they have been threatened. I'm going to put this out publicly, the. sex tape. >> Did that Did he threaten those these. young girls like that or were they kind. of knew it was going on but not aware of. what happened afterwards? >> I don't think the girls understood the. whole power dynamics and the power plays. in hand. Some of them just like didn't. really recognize these men. I mean, I. don't think women could necessarily. recog like a 14-year-old or 15-year-old. would necessarily rep like recognize a.

Marvin Minsk who was on the property, you know, who's a acade academic or like. a even someone like Bill Richardson. that, you know, uh, Virginia Gay was. traffic says she was traffics to. She. alleged that or um, you know, Senator. Mitchell or, you know, others that were. around him. Like these are people that. aren't household names. Think about when. you were 14 or 15 years old. Like I'm. about the same age as these girls and I. remember you know Britney Spears and.

anyone who's like but not academics you. know former necessarily like heads of. you know Silicon Valley entrepreneurs or. you know Elon Musk wasn't a huge thing. Peter Teal. They were just around a lot. of men and they were probably a lot of. them like faceless white men frankly and. did not remember all of them. So yeah. >> Okay, one more question. >> Prince Andrew cough comes comes up. frequently because they know him, >> right? He was obvious. He was one of the. obvious. Okay, one more question. I know. time is running short. [snorts].

>> As we approach this December 19th. deadline for DOJ to release this stuff. Number one, I am not confident that DOJ. is going to properly release what it. should release. What is the feeling of. the survivors as we approach this date? Do they have trepidation? Because we've. already seen Republicans release their. private information or are they like, "Good, get it out.". >> It's a mix. Okay. So there are obviously. only a few dozen survivors that have.

come out and actually you know. identified as Epstein survivors outside. of Jane Doe. And that's fine. Like if. you are if you are a victim of sexual. assault there's a reason why we have. Jane Doe laws to protect you from the. shame from the from all of it. Um so a. lot of them don't want their names out. there. Their families don't know their. children their friends. They don't want. the press to follow them. follow them. around. Now, the DOJ has nine days to.

actually release these files. And. according to a letter that they wrote to. two judges two days ago in a court. document, they said they're still. compiling a master list. They're. decentralizing this. They're still. hearing from new victims who have not. been represented or come came forward. before. They're still redacting. And. they are also warning that there might. be a mosaic in which they're identifying. descriptors or you know features in the.

documents that might actually reveal. victims if not by name but just what. with with details. So they are very far. from actually protecting the victims of. Jeffrey Epste and revealing the list in. full. And a lot of the victim's lawyers. have already come forward saying, "Listen, what you dumped, Congress. revealed the names of some victims who. did not want their names out there." And. as we know, they were working around the. clock in the spring, you know, about a. thousand agents over 24 hours to try to. redact Trump's name. But what about the.

victims? Like, what were you doing then? So, Christy Greenberg, who's a former sex. crimes prosecutor in the Southern. District of New York, I just had her on. my show, the Tara Palm Mary show. You. can see it on YouTube or anywhere you. get your podcast. But she said there's. no way that they should be able to. release the full Epstein files by. December 19th and protect the victims at. the same time. >> So, >> well, and they're going to delay. They're trying to protect the victims. They're trying to protect the rich. powerful men in my opinion. And I'm not.

saying you're co-signing that, but. [snorts]. >> they've spent hours and hours and a. thousand FBI agents to protect Donald. Trump. I don't think they're interested. in protecting the victims at this point. Call me cynical, but that's that's but. the history of their behavior. >> I think that you are making an. assumption based on a decent I think. that is a very decent assumption. So, [laughter] I'm not going to question. that one. >> Well, Tara Palmary, thank you so much. They can find you at.

terramary.com. It's where you can sign up for the red. letter. It's how you can get my. exclusive reporting. I'm an. investigative reporter. it goes straight. to your inbox. Um, I also cover. politics. Um, I used to be a political. reporter. I still am for, you know, 15. years and maybe more now. Gez. And also. I have got a show, the Tara Palm Mary. Show, YouTube, Apple, Spotify, wherever. you get your podcast. And thank you so. much for having me. I'm a fan of this. show and it's such a pleasure to be on.

and I'd love to have you on my show as. well. >> Well, I here's the deal. You have to. come back because I still have front and. back questions I want to ask you. Let's set it up. I'm ready. >> Okay, great. Thanks, Tara. Thank you, [music].