IHIP News: 🚨 Dem Senator's BOYCOTT of Trump's State of the Union Has HIM in MELTDOWN!
Today I'm joined by Senator Chris Murphy. of Connecticut, who in my opinion is one. of the biggest resistance leaders. And. today we're going to talk about the. incoming rambling dementia hour that is. called the State of the Union. Senator, are you going or staying away? >> Hell no, [laughter] I'm not going. I mean, he's made a mockery of the State. of the Union. Like I Listen, I I care. about institutions. I want to preserve. democratic institutions, but he has. like lit this one on fire and we don't.
need to be a backdrop for his. histrionics. It just legitimizes. what's going to go on tonight and that's. a whole bunch of lying. That's a whole. bunch of grandstanding. So, I won't be there. I'll I'll be with. a bunch of my colleagues, a bunch of. guests who are going to tell the story. of what's really going on in this. country. We'll be down the hill from the. capital outside in the freezing cold. telling the real story of what's. happening in the United States today. Good for you. I I saw recently that one.
of your colleagues on the other side of. the aisle, Mike Lee, tweeted something. Kylie popped us up. And he tweets, "Cartel hitman wear. masks. Leftists aren't complaining." And. you ducked dunked on him immediately and. responded with. "Oh dear Mike, I literally couldn't make. our argument better than you do. The bad. guys wear masks. The good guys don't.". And of course Mike Lee has already. deleted his tweet because he got owned.
by you. But let me ask you this, since. we know that Kristi Noem, Donald Trump. are making a mockery of our. institutions, do you think ICE needs to. be abolished? Well, I mean, you are going to have to. scrap what we have today and rebuild it. I mean, I listen, I think we have to. have some. capacity to enforce our immigration. laws, but. this version of ICE. can't do it. So, tear it down, rebuild. it with something that is humane,
compassionate, enforces the laws, but. doesn't terrorize immigrants, protesters, and the communities in which. they live. So, listen, there's no doubt. that the next president is going to have. to tear down this version of ICE, this. version of CBP, and rebuild it from the ground up. So, this. Homeland, they have such a massive. budget. And a story that's really been. bothering me is the billions of dollars.
that have been allocated to purchase. warehouses. And in these warehouses, they want to concentrate human beings. One could call these concentration. camps. >> [snorts]. >> And. this to me, when you see what they're. doing with the masks, and you see where. they're heading with these warehouses, I. don't think that they should be given a. cent. I don't think Congress or Senate. should give them a cent. Zero daylight. What is your position on that? Well, I agree with you that until this.
agency is obeying the law, until they. stop terrorizing our communities, our. children, and migrants to this country, they should not get any taxpayer. dollars. I mean, I swore an oath of. office, and my oath of office commands. me to uphold the Constitution and the. law. This is a lawless agency, and so we. should not fund an agency that is. operating outside of the bounds of the.
law and outside of the bounds of. morality. This is a black and white. issue. And the American people are with. us on this. They have seen what ICE is. doing. They know that just because maybe. it's disappeared a little bit from the. headlines doesn't mean that ICE doesn't. continue to violate the law and the. Constitution. And so, I think the people. are with us. Don't fund the Department. of Homeland Security until they start. complying with the law. And there's no. doubt that those warehouses, by the way, are going to be used in an effort to.
violate the law. Who are they going to. put in those warehouses? They are going. to put legal immigrants to this country. And again, that that it's really. important that we understand what. they're doing. They are not going after. violent criminals. Maybe 5% of the. people that are housed in these. detention centers are people with. serious violent histories. They are not. going after illegal immigrants, if that's even the appropriate term. They're going after people who are here, showing up for their court appointments,
applying for asylum, obeying the law. Those are the people that are going to. be thrown in those warehouses, which is. another reason, on top of what are. likely to be inhumane conditions in. those warehouses, that we should not. provide ICE or DHS any additional money. beyond what they already have to build. them. Yeah, [snorts] I mean, these are really. paperwork issues. And the way they are. treating human beings, you saw. Liam Ramos. He had his little beanie on.
with the bunny ears. And there's. thousands upon thousands upon thousands. of kids like that in the United States. right now. And a lot of them are hiding, like they're hiding in their homes. because they don't want to go out in. public. And what I think has been so. >> [sighs and gasps]. >> horrible about Trump 2.0 is the delight. in which Trump and his cult of. personality enjoy this form of. recreational cruelty. The way you hear. Stephen Miller when he gets on.
cable news, the way he talks about it, their social media, where they use. showing people shackled up and they put. ASMR like it relaxes them. And then you. have Oh, forget that Oh, Nancy Mace is. her name. She says for fun when she gets. home from work, she likes to watch. ice raids. And so, beyond Trump, okay, this guy's old, he's a dementia duck, something's going to happen before we. know it. But what he's incubating,
Senator, is what really concerns me. What he is incubating in American. culture right now, I worry that the Democrats are not. putting up enough of a resistance to. this because these oligarchs own all the. algorithms. So, as we head into the. State of the Union, which is awful, the. State of the Union is really bad. Let's. you and I talk about the State of the. Resistance Mhm. which you and I are in. And so, the State of the Resistance, I.
feel is meh. I don't feel like it's that great right. now. I feel like it could be better. I. feel like. MAGA doesn't hate our Democratic leaders. enough. Remember how much they hated. Nancy Pelosi? What do you What's your. take on the State of the Resistance? Well, we're not good enough. I I mean, I'll just be honest with you, we're not. good enough. Um what I [clears throat]. think um allows me to sleep at night is. that um. the president has not been successful in.
suppressing popular dissent. Um we still. have huge numbers of people showing up. to protests, um record numbers for the. last No Kings Day, um when there are. elections happening, um voter turning. out in huge numbers and rejecting his. candidates. Um but there's another story. when it comes to elites. Corporate. elites are doing nothing to stop him, the media is folding left and right. Um. and well, we have had good moments here.
inside the institution. We haven't had. enough of them. I mean, frankly, every. Democrat should be boycotting the State. of the Union speech tonight. Um there. there be no Democrats providing a. backdrop for what he is going to do and. say. Um, I don't frankly think that we. should have funded the Department of. Justice. or the Department of Defense. so willingly without. at least having an argument over putting. constraints on DOJ's ability to lock up.
and pursue Democrats or DOD's ability to. pursue illegal wars overseas. I'm glad. that we're doing what we're doing right. now. This is a strong moment saying no. funding for the Department of Homeland. Security until they start behaving. legally, but we could have drawn that. line with DOJ or with DOD, not just with. the Department of Homeland Security. So, I think. the my assessment is that the public. has not gone underground, has not been. bullied into silence, that we have had.
moments where we have risen to the task, but there's still a lot more to do. I really appreciated. you said that you regretted your vote. for Marco Rubio. And I really. appreciated the honesty in that because. I have. kind of had a political evolution of. sorts since Kamala lost. And I realized that I kind of bought.
into kind of the corporate idea of what. the Democratic Party is supposed to be. And I was a good MSNBC Democrat. And I. see so many of the Democratic leaders. that I would die on a hill to vote for. servicing corporations before they. service. working class Americans. And I saw the way the Democratic. establishment treated Zoran and who was. the who won his primary and how they. treated him in New York. And it just. step after step after step I would say.
I've kind of been deprogrammed off of. this. corporate Democratic. yuck that the party seems to have. And. the last time you were on my podcast, I. remember you saying something where you. said, "You know, I used to think Bernie, I don't know what's going on with him, but I'm finding myself more and more in. agreement with him." So, it seems like. you two have kind of evolved on some of. these things, and I think political. evolution and admitting our mistakes is. important. It's growth. And so, where.
are you now with corporate money, corporate dems, and affordability and. the Zoran Momdanis of it all? >> Yeah, I I just don't think that politics. any longer is organized around. traditional left-right dynamics. I I. think the most important cleavage today. is um are you for corporations. and their continued consolidation of. power, or are you for workers? Right? Do. you wake up every day trying to think. about how to make the market work better. for corporations, or do you wake up. every day thinking about how to empower.
workers? Um and I think that the. American public understands that the. corruption of our economy is downstream. of the corruption of our politics. That. these corporations get everything they. want from our economy because they get. everything that they want from our. government. And so, if you don't get. corporate influence out of our politics, then you have no hope at fixing and.
unrigging our economy. So, I did used to. take corporate PAC money. I don't any. longer. I I probably, you know, would. have listed um cleaning up. private anonymous corporate money in. politics as a top 10 issue. Now, I think. it's a top two issue. Um I don't think. the Democratic Party regains its. legitimacy. in this country writ large or with. lower-income voters unless we wake up. every day trying to get corporations out.
of our politics so that we can pass the. the big reforms necessary the reforms. that Bernie Sanders and Zoran talk about. to fix the big problems that regular. workers out there are facing. Yeah, I've been really surprised at the. capitulation by industry titans because. in my world like if you have you. money and somebody like Donald Trump is. trying to bully you you be like you. you're only going to be here for four.
years and my company's going to be. around longer than you're going to be. president 80 year old dementia boy. I. mean that would be like the the big. thing if you had that kind of money but. they all. have capitulated and it's so. >> [sighs]. >> gross. It's so disgusting to see them. treat their customer base the American. workers with such disdain. All right, let's move on to the state of the union. tonight. So you're going to watch it. Do. you think you're going to have any sort. of like shot games?
Um you know how you can take a shot if. some if Trump says something like what. what if we were to my viewers at home to. my listeners, what do you think that the. word should be that we all take shots? Oh, it's a great it's a great question. I don't know. I won. tre. tremendous. >> [laughter]. >> tremendous is maybe my best my best my. my best guess. but I wouldn't recommend I mean that. sounds like.
that sounds like a miserable way to. spend your night to get like sloppy. hangover drunk watching Donald Trump. Like if you're going to get that drunk. and have to deal with a hangover like I. don't know like do something better with. your night than watching. this charlatan. How many times do you think he's going. to say that he won the 2020 election? I mean over under like the over under is. maybe is maybe three? Four?
I mean, you know, I mean to to be. serious, like he is getting ready to try. to push through the Senate, you know, this this this bill, the SAVE. Act, that, you know, he thinks is a. pretext for the federal government to. take over state elections. It it really. isn't, but like that is on his mind. every single day. It also may be true. that the reason we invaded. Venezuela is so that we could capture. the guy that Trump thinks rigged the. voting machines in 2020 and under duress.
he can get Maduro to claim that that. happened. Don't you think he's going to. pardon Maduro to get Maduro to say that? I mean, like I just think like you have. to understand that this is the thing. that motivates him to get up every. morning. Like there're basically like. two things that drive Donald Trump's. day. One, covering up for himself and his friends, their involvement in a child sex ring, and two, proving that he never ever lost.
an election. Like that's oh, and. building a ballroom, right? Those are. probably the three things that he spends. 75% of his day on. Conspiracy theories relative to the. election, covering up the Epstein. scandal, and building the ballroom. And I wouldn't be surprised if he spends. some time talking about. one, two, or three of those things. tonight. And what are your predictions. this Supreme Court's going to be there? They just gave him a big L on his. tariffs. He's wound up like a cheap.
clock over that, saying that the Supreme. Court justices are under foreign. influence and all of this stuff. And. that's a pretty, you know, that's a. pretty big claim for a sitting president. to claim about. the justices that the ones, a couple of. them, that he appointed. I think he's. going to I think he's going to go off on. that. I don't think he can stay on. script. I don't think he has the ability. to do it. What's your prediction on. that? I mean it it might be in the. script. I mean I think. >> [laughter]. >> he's a. I mean he's a bully he's a bully and he.
really does believe um [snorts] with. evidence that bullying conservatives. works, right? He has bullied um. congressional Republicans, he has. bullied Senate Republicans. He believes. that he can bully Republicans on the. Supreme Court. And here's my worry. I. mean my So I I Listen, they got the. decision right on the tariff case. It. was black and white. It wasn't a a tough. or hard call. Um but I worry that, you.
know, they're they're. they are crossing him on tariffs in part. because it's good for the corporate. class um that helped elevate people like. Gorsuch and. Roberts and Coney Barrett so that they. can give him a victory on something that. strikes more deeply. >> at the heart of American democracy like. an attempt by Trump to take over. elections in Minnesota or Georgia or. Pennsylvania. They're all politicians, right? And so they're trying to,
you know, preserve part of their legacy. while staying in good graces with the. Trump ecosystem. Um. maybe I'm sort of too cynical about the. way that the Supreme Court makes. decisions, but I don't think so. This. tariff um case, you know, may be quickly. followed by a decision on, for instance, the federalization of elections that. could be really, really damaging to our. ability to survive this fall. >> [snorts]. >> I think that's a really good point. because.
I always think when I watch Trump and. all the people surrounding him, they are. governing like they're never going to. face accountability. And Trump is never going to face. accountability for any of this because. the Supreme Court gave him immunity. They are the architect of this. lawlessness. It starts with the Supreme. Court that handed down the presidential. immunity. And so I have zero faith in. this court, and I think that as I I your. cynicism, I think is what we need right. now because we have to be clear-eyed.
about who they are and who we're. resisting. And you're exactly right. That's exactly what they're going to do. They're going to They're going to This. was Okay, we're going to be normal here, and then they're going to us. You're exactly right. >> you, one for one for you. And. um in the end, like they got elevated to. the court because. they're in with the Trump crowd. And. Trump really does believe that if he. um marginalizes them with that in-crowd, um. that it will affect their.
decision-making. And, you know, he's. been right in terms of how that's. impacted everybody from Mike Johnson to. John Thune, and he's probably right. about that when it comes to the Supreme. Court. They're politicians. I mean, of. course it's Tony Barron. They got to the. court because they played the game. Um. and they're still playing the game. And. right now, Trump runs the game. uh when it comes to the American right. Um I'm just not counting on any of them. being heroes. I I completely agree with you. We have.
to come to the terms. with that. I think we're If we ever get. power again, we're going to have to term. limits on justices. We're going to have. to reform the Supreme Court. There needs. to be an accountability oversight board. I mean, Clarence Thomas, his wife was. involved in the coup. He has no business. ruling on, you know, cases that have to. do with January 6th. And I also think, and I want to get your opinion on this, the president is running a pardon racket. right now. You can pay a million dollars. and get pardoned. Don't you think we. need to do away with the presidential.
pardons? Yeah, I do. I haven't sort of. given a ton of thought to this yet, but. that seems sort of patently obvious at. this point that that clause is now just. rife for abuse. Um and so, you know, there's probably some really good ideas. out there on how to limit it. Um maybe. you don't have to get rid of it, but. it's just a racket right now. >> Totally. Just a racket. And you know, I. mean, given that the United Arab.
Emirates are like putting $180 million. secretly in the president's pocket, a. million dollars to, you know, one of. Trump's lobbyist buddies, you know, looks quaint in comparison. So, maybe we. don't talk about the pardon corruption. as much as we should. But increasingly, the polls are starting to show that. people are increasingly focused on the. corruption. I think at the beginning, they had kind of priced it in. They knew. Trump was corrupt. They were willing to.
excuse it, but they're now sort of. coming face-to-face with the sort of. nuclear-grade level daily corruption. And folks [laughter] are starting to. say, "Yeah, I knew the guy was corrupt, but I didn't. think he was this corrupt." And. I think if we keep talking about it, just telling the truth about what he's. doing, you know, this'll be what, you. know, gets that 39% approval rating down. to 36. And man, when you're at 36, uh you can't win the. >> It is 36. Um you can't hold the post.
Washington Post poll came out yesterday. and it's at 36. Is it 36? Yeah, I mean, that's that is the number at which like, you know, Democrats running for the. Senate are winning Iowa and Alaska and. Texas. And so, to keep we got to keep. talking about corruption. As you know, I. probably talk about it more than any of. my colleagues. So, I'm going to actually. go down to the floor in the next few. weeks and give a long speech. just going through the tick-tock of. what's happened in just the last few. months. Um but keep focusing on it. Just. because the American public didn't. respond to that narrative right off the.
bat, doesn't mean that the cumulative. impact of the corruption isn't going to. start to change the way that they think. about him. Yeah, I think I just think. the um. the Oval Office is it's operating as a. crime syndicate. I just I think that he. is operating using the federal. government, all of our hard work, all of. our 250 years, all of our good faith, our imperfect He is using it to. enrich himself and his sons dumb and. dumber right in front of our faces. And. I just I Every day. Like every day um.
that's what they're that's what they're. doing and they. um and they decided early on. I mean, the first term they were involved in. corruption, but it was I don't know, kind of lower level, more peripheral. corruption. This time because he he. knows he's probably not likely going to. be in the Oval Office for more than a. couple years, he's just going to make as. much money as he can off of the office. and people are starting to figure it. out. I completely agree. I'm so happy that. you're not going to the State of the.
Union. I like that you're not giving him. an inch. I think that is the way to go. because he's such I call him because I'm. from the South, a titty baby and that. kind of getting no attention is the best. way to deal with him. Senator Murphy, thank you so much for all of your hard. work. Um so many people look to you as a. leader of the resistance and I know all. of my listeners do. So, we'll keep. watching you. Awesome. Thanks for having. me.
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