IHIP News: 🚨 Bernie Sanders GOES SCORCHED EARTH on Trump! Drops BOMBSHELL Plan to FIGHT BACK!

All right, joining me today on I, Hip. News, is a long-time progressive. champion in Vermont, Senator Bernie. Sanders. Senator Sanders, thank you so. much for joining me. We have a lot to. discuss, so let's just rip into it. Donald Trump is on his way to China. right now with an entourage of. billionaires whose combined net worth. exceeds $870 billion. And I thought, "Hmm, I wonder out of all of the Americans. that I know of, who might have something.

to say. about this?" And I thought about you. >> Well, I think what Trump's. [clears throat]. uh. friends on Air Force One are telling us. is. number one, these are guys who are. pushing artificial intelligence and. robotics. So, I would ask the American people to. take a deep breath and think, "Do you believe that Elon Musk and the. rest of these guys are staying up nights. worrying about what AI and robotics is.

going to do to working families. throughout the country?" Is that really. their goal? Are they coming up with a. new vaccine, a new medicine to improve. lives? Between you and me, I don't think. so. I think these very, very wealthy and. powerful people want to become. even wealthier and more powerful, and. that should concern us. Having said. that, I hope very much as someone who is. concerned about the impact of AI in many. respects, uh I would hope that President Trump and.

President Xi will talk about the. existential threat about what might. happen if AI. uh if AI escapes human control, and what. that will mean. There are many. scientists who worry about that, and I. think there needs to be a coming. together of China and the United States. and other countries to prevent that. >> And what do you think AI means to a lot. of working-class jobs? >> Good. for [clears throat] asking again. I got involved in this gen of them not.

because I am a. uh big tech guy. I am not. I can barely. turn on the television in my house. Uh. but I'm looking around and I'm reading. and I'm beginning to sense that we are. looking at the most consequential. uh transformation of society in human. history. And I'm looking at my colleagues here in. the Congress and saying obviously, there's going to be a lot of discussion. about what this means. Right?

Wrong. All right? So, what are the. issues that we are concerned about? Number one, as I've just said, should we. worry very much that a handful of the. richest people in the world are pushing. uh this transformational technology. What are their goals? Are they really. concerned about the betterment of human. beings? I think not. So, that's the. first. uh red light that I think we have got to. be aware of. Number two, what does it. mean economically? Well, nobody exactly. knows, to be honest with you.

But there are estimates out there that. over the next 10 years, you know, tens and tens of millions of. jobs will be displaced. All right? Just. think about it for a moment. Uh Mr. Bezos, one of the richest guys in the. world, right? He is investing, he wants to put. together a fund of a hundred billion. dollars to automate factories. Got it? You know what that means? It means that robots will be doing the. manufacturing in the United States. Millions of jobs will be lost.

We're looking at driverless vehicles. spreading all over the country. There's. a millions of truck drivers. losing their jobs cab drivers, Uber. drivers, uh and other drivers. So, what do we do? In terms of young college graduates, getting harder and harder to find jobs. The legal profession, accounting, all of. those professions are under attack from. AI. Does anybody have a serious plan. on how to deal with that? That's one. issue. Another issue is the issue of.

privacy. All right. AI now in in companies like. Palantir have the capability to put. together all kinds of information about. you. We are in danger of losing every shred. of privacy. that we have. We are seeing right now kids getting. hooked on AI. bots. who are now their best friends and. sometimes with disastrous results. But.

take it a step further. Not only the. emotional health. of young people. What kind of society are we moving to. when we spend our times with agents. on the screen and not with other human. beings? That's a big deal. And then you have. you know, the issue of as I mentioned. the existential. threat. So. those are some of the concerns that I. have and. it it bothers me very much that my.

colleagues here are not addressing these. issues. We're trying to. fill the hole. And that has a lot to do with money and. politics and the fact that AI. industry again owned by the wealthiest. people in our country are spending. hundreds of millions of dollars to make. sure. that members of Congress and candidates. do not raise the important issues about. guardrails and how we best go forward. >> I think it's rather fascinating that a. lot of these billionaires, these.

oligarchs that have bent the knee to. Trump. They have made billions of dollars in a. very short period of time. The president. has made billions of dollars in a very. short period of time. Despite these. record earnings in such a short period. of time, we're seeing a lot of layoffs. in the companies that are profiting so. much. Amazon is laying people off, Apple's laying people off, etc. What's your take on this lie that I. think we were told in this last.

election, that immigrants are coming for. your jobs when really it's the robots. that are coming for everybody's jobs. >> a couple of important. issues. Uh. in terms of immigrants, what disgusts me very much about Trump. is not just his by and large terrible. policies. It's he is doing today what demagogues. throughout history have always done. It is no secret to anybody who's. watching this, our country faces.

enormous problems, right? Not easily. solved. But these are very, very serious. problems. And what decent political leaders try to. do is to say, "All right, how do you. deal with the housing crisis? How do you. deal with child care? How do you deal. with health care? How do you deal with. income and wealth inequality? How do you. deal with climate change? All right, tough issues, right?" You lay them on. the table. and we debate in a democracy. What Trump is trying to do is saying, "Hey, you're a working class person out. there. having a hard time feeding your family, you can't send your kids to college,

uh you can't afford health care. You. know whose fault that is? I'll tell you whose fault it is. It's the millions of undocumented people. here. They're stealing, they're robbing, they're raping, they're murdering, horrible, terrible people. And if we just throw them all out, we. have ICE breaking down doors and don't. worry about the Constitution, man, everything's going to be better.". And I hate that. I really do hate that. I hate that for so many reasons, but the. most important is that's what demagogues. do. You pick on a powerless.

uh minority. In our country, blacks, gays, Latinos, Europe, Jews, Gypsies, you name the. group. Trans people are very popular, You can. go hate them. That's easy. You pick a. group to hate and you blame them for all. the problems facing society. And that is what Trumpism is about. Now, in terms of the economy, again, nobody knows exactly what and how. quickly these transformations take.

place. But there are very smart economists out. there. who worry that we are going to lose. millions and millions of not only. blue-collar jobs, but white-collar jobs. as well. People like Elon Musk, who I. I'm not very fond of, to say the least. He says that work will be optional. Got. that? That AI and robotics will do. everything that you can do better than. you can do. Which raises, Jennifer, another interesting question.

What happens to us as human beings? >> Yeah. >> What do we do? Somebody could do your program better. than you, smarter than you. What do you do? What kind of world do we. want? >> Yeah. >> You know, uh Mrs. Trump walks down the. aisle in the in in the uh White House. with a robot by her side. These are in. so many words, these are the future. teachers of America. Do you want your. kids being taught by robots? So, these are the profound questions.

that we need a national discussion on. And the good news is. that without the help of leaders here in. Washington, the American people are. rising up in terms of opposition to. these dollar centers. all over the country. In conservative. areas, people say, "Thank you, but no, thank you." So, it's a huge issue and we. are trying to do our best in terms of. legislation. We have proposed a. moratorium on dollar centers. We are. going to come up with some very. important ideas, I think, to make sure. that AI and ro- robotics benefit the all.

people, not just Mr. Musk and his. friends. >> Uh you were leading the call for an. important call for the 2026 midterms. Pop this up, Kylie. Bernie Sanders presses Democrats to. swear off super PACs in primaries. The. independent senator from Vermont says. top Democrats should tell candidates. they will otherwise lose access to party. resources. I agree with this 100%. Senator, please go off on this. >> All right. Jennifer, thanks for your. support on this.

Look, it's easy and truthful to say Donald. Trump is a threat to democracy. I don't. want to go into great length. We all. know that is true. He happens not to. believe in in democracy and he'll do. everything he can to undermine it. But. it is not just Donald Trump. A moment. ago, we were talking about AI and my. concern that I don't see people. standing up and saying, "Gee, what are we going to do about AI? How do. we protect workers? How do we protect. the environment?" Et cetera, et cetera. And the reason for that is AI will put.

in many, many, many hundreds of millions. of dollars into campaigns. You're. running for Congress. You say, "I'm really concerned about the. impact of AI." You are, right? All. right, put $10 million. in ads against her. All right. And it doesn't even buy Donny. you don't even have to use the word AI. Go through her record. Come up with some. crap. And attack her. Uh so, what we are seeing right now is. is a diminishment of democracy. You. know, I'm a I come from a very rural.

state, small state. And the first Tuesday in March, there. are town meetings all over the state. So, you have towns of 500 people. People. come out and they raise their hand. They. argue about how much they're going to. spend on the roads, how much they're. going to spend on the schools, et. cetera, et cetera. And majority wins, right? That's kind of the old-fashioned. democracy. We are nowhere near that. anymore in this country. Candidates spend half their lives or. more raising money. They're scared to. death.

about AI. They're scared to death about. crypto money. They're scared to death. about AIPAC money. billionaire money in general. We are. losing democracy in that respect. So, the goal of course is to get rid of. Citizens United. In my view, move to. public funding of elections. But, what the Democratic Party can do. tomorrow is to say, you know what? We do not want super PACs in Democratic. primaries. Get them out. And any. candidate who does not. help us get it out will be punished in.

A, B, and C ways, and there are ways. that you can do that. >> Uh I completely agree with you. You've. taught me a lot on this. I used to just. buy the Democratic Party narrative. And. after we lost to Trump twice, I started. really listening to more progressive. voices like yours. And the argument that. really penetrated to me was it's very. difficult to trust Democrats that take. money from the same corporations and. PACs that are funding fascism. And that.

was just I mean, it you'd been saying it. for a long time, and I'm sorry I'm such. a slow learner, but I think the whole. country [laughter]. is kind of evolving to this, that we. cannot trust Democrats that have a D. next to their name, that are taking. money from Palantir, that are taking. money from APAC, because these PACs and. corporations are heavily, heavily. invested in making sure that a corrupt. financial system succeeds. >> You're absolutely right. Nothing more. than I can.

uh add to that, except the problem is. getting worse and worse every day. You know, uh. and by the way, I would say that you. have conservative Republicans who feel. the same way that you do. All right? You know, I happen to maybe I'm old. fashioned. I really love democracy. I. really do. I love the idea you disagree with me, argue with me. It's great, right? It's. how we learn. All right? You win occasionally, I win. occasionally, and I've lost a number of. elections when I was younger.

You know, it's a beautiful thing. It. really is. It gets kids to think and so forth and. so on. But we're losing that right now. cuz billionaires have an agenda. And. what is so cynical is yes, you got. Republicans, by the way, investing in. with their super PACs in Democratic. primaries. You got big money who They don't give a. damn who wins, you're Republican, Democrat, it doesn't matter. We own you. anyhow, right? Putting into all kinds of. dark money. So, if And I hope everybody understands,

this is not just Jennifer and I are not. just talking about some abstract. concern. It is why you do not have health care as. a human right. It's why the minimum wage. in Washington is 7 and 1/4 an hour. It's. why our trade policies have been a. disaster for workers. It's why we don't. have a a decent a child care system. Big. money dominates every aspect of what. goes on here in Washington. And unless. we get rid of these super PACs, it's.

going to be even worse. >> Senator, I think a lot of people right. now are kind of waking up to the reality. that every time it appears, at least in. my lifetime, a Republican gets the. executive branch, it goes the following: tax cuts, um lies, wealth will trickle down, it. never happens. They add to the deficit, and the next thing you know, we're at. war in some senseless war. And I think right now the appetite from. everyday Americans who are constantly.

told, "No, we can't afford that. No, we. have to cut that. No, you're lazy. No, you don't work hard enough. But yes, we. can afford to go bomb in the Middle East. with impunity." I think the American. public has had it with this, and that. people are waking up. >> I think you're absolutely right. And again, it is not just Democrats. It's an increasing number of. Republicans, especially younger.

Republicans. I I I think. Uh and it is. I mean, this war and what we have seen. it bothers me in an in an incredibly. deep way. One might have hoped, Jennifer, that in. the year 2026. the world would have learned something. about how to deal with conflicts other. than going around killing people. One. might have thought, right? So, right now, what are we looking at? You're looking at Putin with his. imperialist ideas having invaded.

Ukraine. You're looking at the horror of what. Israel and the Netanyahu government did. in Gaza, which in my view constitutes. genocide funded by American. uh taxpayers. And then you're looking at. our friend Donald Trump along with. Netanyahu starting a war in Iran for no. reason than anybody can really. uh ascertain. Now, these guys here in. Washington, the Trump administration, say, "Well, it's going to cost 25, 30. billion dollars." That is total absolute. nonsense. It's going to cost 10, 20.

times that. Meanwhile, not only are they spending. all this money in the war in Iran, Trump. comes forward, "We are spending a. trillion dollars a year on the military. You got it? We don't have a healthcare for all. people. We have a a a challenged educational. system. Kids can't afford to go to. college. A trillion dollars a year and. you know what Trump wants? He wants another 500 billion. You got. it? >> Yeah. >> A 50% increase and three blocks away.

from where I am right now on Capitol. Hill, people are sleeping out on the. street because we have a massive housing. crisis, which as you say, we can't. afford to deal with housing, can't. afford to deal with childcare, can't. afford to deal with healthcare, but. somehow when there is a bloody war out. there, we always have the money. And I. It's time we said no to that. >> Uh Senator Sanders, I'm I share your. concern about AI, but I'm also concerned. about a cultural problem that I think. America has. And it it is a problem that.

has incubated this certain state that we. find ourselves in. And it is that. billionaires and millionaires and rich. people are entitled to certain things. And that we give them the privilege of. oh, they must be smart. They must be. great. And if Zoran wants to tax a guy, instead of that guy come to New York and. saying, "You know what? I'll gladly pay. my fair share in taxes. Thank you for. bringing this to my attention. I have a. bank account that could choke a bull. I. want to partner with you, mayor.". They're victims and they're bed wetters.

And then to the working class Americans, they're told by some of your colleagues. in the Senate that maybe you should get. a second job or maybe you shouldn't have. that latte. There's this dismissive. demeaning nature that started a long. time ago towards working class people. and the propping up of these. billionaires. So, my question for you is. number one, can we afford these. billionaires? And number two, this. cultural deference that we give these. people that exploit this country so much. really concerns me and I want your.

thoughts on that. >> Well, Jennifer, I think you raised. I think. you raised a lot of good issues that I'm. This [laughter] is one. Look, capitalists and and very wealthy people, you know, forever. What do they want? They want to make more and more money. They often break unions, try to pay. their workers as little as possible. Nothing new about that. But I think you're touching on something. that we have a new breed here. uh of people.

A, they are unbelievably wealthy. And I. hope everybody knows what is not talked. about too much in the corporate media. And that is today we have more income. and wealth inequality. than we've ever had in the history of. this country. Remember when we were in. school, we studied the Gilded Age, Rockefellers and all those guys? Nothing compared to what we have right. now. >> Yeah. >> All right. We don't talk about it cuz. they own the media and they own the. politicians, but 1% owns more wealth. than the bottom 93%. That's disgraceful. Number two, the point that you are making.

is these guys now think, literally, that because they are smart and they. work hard and they developed these big. tech companies, that they are God's gift. to the human race. That they have a divine right to rule. And who the hell are you. to tell them that maybe there should be. some guidelines to protect children. from the dangers of uh chatbots.

uh. on AI. Who are you? Who do you think you. are? You want to tax me? Really? You want to steal my money? I. only have $400 billion and you want to. tax Tell you what we're going to do. I'm leaving New York City. I'm leaving. California. Because you know what? Nothing you could do about me. You want to tax me? I'm gone. We're. going to take away your job. I have all the power. You got nothing. That is arrogance. You know, you might. think.

I obviously am very strongly supportive. of the billionaire wealth tax. uh. uh ballot item in California. In fact, I. was out there pushing it and I hope it. wins. I think it's a great start. I'm. very supportive of what Mondaire is. trying to do in New York. You would. think that if these guys had a sense of. decency, >> Yes. >> not only would they pay their fair share. of taxes, but secondly, if they disagreed, then. have a debate. Instead, what they are doing is. extorting people. You follow what I'm.

saying? >> Yep. >> All right. If you want to tell me why. taxing somebody who has $100 billion. to make sure that children have health. care. Tell me why that's a bad idea. I'm. all ears. All right? Let's have that debate. That's not what they're doing. What. they're saying is if you tax me, if the. majority of people in California say. yes, we get the hell out of here. We're. going to punish you. That's what they're doing is using their. power. And that's arrogance. And that is. the issue you're raising. And we got to. take them on very boldly.

>> Yeah, it it it really irritates me that. they don't put their name on the ballot. and go try to change. uh policy or things that they want the. proper way. Instead, they just cheat and. buy their way into it. It's legal. cheating, obviously. But last question, and I think this is so important. Um. what type of impact would it make to. America, to our deficit, to everyday. working-class people who are just trying. to live if these billionaires were.

taxed? Is part one of the question. Part. two, what impact would it have in the. billionaires' life? >> All right, I would urge everybody to go. to our social media and take a look at. this. We have proposed. a wealth tax. The 5% tax on the wealth of I don't know. what it is, a thousand billionaires in. America. Thousand people. In a nation of 340 million people. What it would mean. is we would start off in the first year.

in these difficult times making sure. that every family in America of less. than $150,000, which is vast majority of families, each. man, woman, and child would get a $3,000. check. All right? First year. Second of all, Trump threw 15 million. people off their health care. We put. them right back onto health care as we. fight for a Medicare for All program, but we keep them getting their health. care. We desperately need to deal with the.

housing crisis. Our bill would allow us. to build 7 million units of low-income. and affordable housing. We can solve the. child care crisis in America and do many. other things. And at the end of all that, you know. what we've done? Elon Musk is down to a mere 750. 800 billion dollars. I know. I know it'll be hard. These are tough. times. You know what the price of gas at. the pump is? But Elon will probably pay it. All. right. And all of these guys, in other.

words, the point of this bill, which as of this. point has one no, we do have a no one. con two people on it, is to show the insanity. You can leave. these guys. tremendously wealthy and we can have an. unbelievable impact on hundreds of. millions of Americans. That's why we got. to deal with this income and wealth. inequality. I think a wealth tax is the. way to go. >> Well, I mean, isn't that something it. wouldn't affect their lives at all, but. would make a big patriotic.

Yes. on the country that has set them up. for so much success. Senator Sanders, thank you for. everything you do. Thank you for always. being the most incorruptible voice of. reason for America. It means so much to. all of us. Thank you for joining me. >> Well, thank you very much for having me. Thank you.