Tom Holland | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another. episode of Good Hang. I am very excited. We have a. movie star with us today. We have a. superstar and that is Tom Holland. Tom. Holland who is in two of the biggest. movies to come out this summer, The. Odyssey and Spider-Man brand new day. I. think they're coming out in the same. month. He's a legend. He's the best and. we talk about so many great things. We. talk about your dad roasting your. friends. We talk about um the joy of.

dancing. We talk about doing American. accents. And I tell him that I believe. that he is the type of man that will. save us from toxic masculinity. So, he. he takes on. uh that responsibility like a good man. does. So, um cannot wait to get started. but before we do, um we always talk to. somebody who knows our guests and we. speak to Jacob Batalon today. Jacob who. plays Ned in Spider-Man is Tom's really. good friend in real life. I mean, they.

grew up together on set, you guys. So, um let's get Jacob on the line here and. I'm going to get my headphones. And we'll check in. Jacob, are you. there? >> [music]. >> This episode of Good Hang is presented. by Palmolive. Family time isn't just the. big moments. It's weeknight dinners, sitting around the table, everyone. talking at once. So, when the plates are. empty and the sink is full,

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>> Hey. >> Jacob. >> Hey, hey, what's going on? >> Mahalo. >> Oh my god. Hey, hi. [laughter]. What's going on? I'm so sorry, my dog is. like not leaving me alone. >> Not at all. Let's talk about this dog. For people that can't see this dog, what. kind of dog we got here? >> Uh, she's a multi-poo. So, uh. >> She's so. >> [laughter]. >> She's so cute. She's well-groomed. >> Yeah, she's pretty. She just got her. hair cut and she's uh I swear to god, she was like not bothering me the whole. day and then as soon as she sees me on. Zoom, she's like, "Oh, it's time.

to get to get going." Like it's. >> We love dogs on Zoom. We [laughter] love. dogs. What's her What's her name? >> Uh, her name is Vulpix, like the. Pokémon. Um, yeah. >> Amazing. [laughter]. >> Yeah, so there's that. >> Jacob, it is so nice to talk to you. >> Oh, thank you so much for having me. This is so awesome. I literally need to. get the gushing out of the way. Pause. Um, I I literally I love you so much. This is so great. I I'm such a big fan. of you. >> Thank you very, very much for saying. that. Um, my I have two teenage boys and.

they're kind of blown away that I'm. talking to you today. >> Amazing. Oh, that's really nice. >> You're very, very famous and. and they love your work as you I and I. love I love like I will just say it and. I feel it already in the work that you. do. that your spirit comes through. >> Oh, thank you so much. That That means a. lot, Amy. Thank you. >> Of course. It's really kind and and and. and may I say like it's also just it's. very Hawaiian. >> [laughter]. >> I appreciate it. Yeah, I mean, hopefully. people are still proud of me back home.

>> Well, there is this thing this like um. there's something very. hard to pin down or like explain it. Almost like explaining it ruins it. But. about Hawaiian people and culture. But I. mean, I I I just have to say I I. thank you for your energy and and Hawaii. and their energy because it means a lot. Um, we're thrilled to talk to you today. because you and Tom Holland are guests. who I've never had the pleasure to meet. and can't wait to meet. are are genuinely really good friends.

>> Yeah, yeah. We I mean I think. it's it's not hyperbole to say that. we've literally seen each other grow up. And. I've I'm obviously proud of who he's. become and like what he's done with his. life and where he's gone in his career. as well. But it's it's crazy. We we you know, at. the time we we weren't even allowed to. drink alcohol. >> Yeah. >> And and now we're. 30. >> [laughter]. >> I know. I mean in in researching for. today, the fact that when you guys got. the parts, you were 18 19.

>> Yeah. Yeah, we're we're about to be. >> And [snorts] and and frankly signing, you know, a contract that was like we're. going to do a lot of movies with you and. it's going to be the next 10 years of. your life. I mean that is a big decision. to make at that age and boy, you're. gambling that [clears throat] the person. you're working with. >> Yeah, hopefully is not a dick, right? >> [laughter]. >> Exactly. Did you guys read together, audition together, and read together? >> Yeah, so I had done like the traditional. thing of well, I think self-tapes at the. time were still kind of new.

So I did I did a couple of those and. then we did a screen test together for. the first time and I think ever since. like that time it was back in like 2016, it just I think that the chemistry was. pretty apparent and. you know, at that time I remember I. don't remember a lot. I feel like for me. that was like my first ever job and so. that that like that kind of big audition. and uh. coming in it was all like literally such. a blur that I barely remember what we.

said to each other. I just remember. thinking like God, I really hope I have. a job after school. Like. >> [laughter]. >> but it was just like such a great time. with him because he was such a. easy-going person and he made it so. light. Um. and at that time, you know, Jon Watts, our director at the time, really really. made it a point for us to really bond. and. it just it was like such a beautiful. sort of story of of like two friends. coming together out of nowhere. >> Yes. I mean, you can just tell that you. two really love and enjoy each other and.

the movie hinges a lot on Peter and. Ned's like relationship. That. >> Yeah, I Yeah, absolutely. I think, you. know, Tom is also very He's big on like. making those relationships uh, feel real. and like that's kind of the backbone of. of Peter Parker's story. So, I think he. was also a very big proponent proponent. of uh, making sure those relationships. make make sense and and that it works. So. >> Yeah. I mean, it it goes deeper, you. know, to this just this idea of like. male friendships and how they're. important they are and how. >> Yeah. >> men really need friends.

>> Yeah, absolutely. Like the I don't want. to advocate like male loneliness or. anything. >> Yeah, it's true. It's true. It's a. real It's a real thing to have somebody. that you know has your back and that. also can kind of um, be with you through. the the tough times. >> Absolutely. [laughter]. >> Um, and this new movie, I mean, there. are some tough times cuz you guys all. forget that you know each other and you. have to kind of you have to learn to. figure out what's great about each other. again. It's a cool metaphor. >> Yeah, it's really cool and hopefully. hopefully it works out for him. Usually.

Usually Spider-Man's life is not great. So. [laughter]. >> [clears throat]. >> Now, are you Do we Did you grow up as a. as a big fan of Marvel and and comic. books and these characters? >> You know, I got to say I was more of a. Power Ranger guy. Um, Power Rangers definitely my thing. Um, >> Yes. >> but I think. >> you like about Power Rangers? >> [laughter]. >> I think it's just like the colored. leotards. I don't know. It's just like. the. >> Sure. >> And the and just like their cool helmets. cuz I know that obviously it wasn't them.

doing the fight scenes, but it was still. super cool. Um, I really I I really got into uh, superhero stuff like actually when Tobey. Maguire was doing Spider-Man and I think. a lot of us for people who were like. millennials, think that was like our. that was like our guy. >> Yeah. >> I remember when I first saw Spider-Man, I I I thought like, how did this guy do. all of this stuff? >> Yeah. >> And then I see Tom doing all this stuff. by himself and it's like insane. Like. it's actually crazy. to be, you know, I can 30. Like like not that 30's old or.

anything, but like when he was 19, he. would get knocked down and come right. back up and now like, you know, he needs. a couple days. >> Jacob, I want to talk about this with. him today cuz I'd like him to stop. >> It's I'm telling it like it's he's. actually doing something just too. dangerous for his body. Like you know, there's stuff there for a reason. Yeah. >> Okay, this isn't going to go over well, but I don't even think should there. should be any stunts at all in any. movies. >> [laughter]. >> Cuz he's like doing like I don't know, his taxes. Yeah, he does his taxes. almost Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah, exactly.

Yes, Peter learns to do his taxes and. Ned helps him and they go get ice cream. as a little treat. [laughter]. And then they watch a movie and they. That's that's what I want to see. >> And then that's how the movie ends. That. that would actually be very beautiful. I. think that's very. >> [laughter]. >> And they just put ice on some of their. old injuries. >> Yeah, yeah, like especially on their. knees. My knees are hurting. Oh my. goodness. >> Yeah, they put some ice on their knees. and maybe I don't know, they call like, you know, they they they get food. delivered and they just chill. >> Oh my god, you know, my misses I this is.

so random, but she put me on to putting. like heat pads on my lower back. >> Oh my god, it's not random, babe. Let's. talk about it. Heat heat [laughter] on. your lower back. I mean, I'm lying on a. heating pad all day. >> I could I could sleep in all day now. But yeah. >> Yeah, you want to you want to want mommy. to blow your mind? Right behind me. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to show you this. >> [laughter]. >> Right behind me, I have a. heating [snorts]. You put this in the microwave. >> Oh, yes. You got it right. Oh my.

goodness. >> it on oh, I don't know, your shoulder or. your lower back. It's incredible. >> I am literally this is how I know like. I'm so turned on by that. I genuinely. want to buy one now. Like I. >> Oh, I'm going to send you one. >> Oh. Thank you. >> Before we get to your question for Tom, just let's talk a little bit more about. what's so great about it. What's so. great about him? >> Yeah, you know, I think again from the. first time I met him, he's just been so. he he's been so welcoming and so nice to. me and obviously like he had done a few. things before I had and and he was.

really willing to to be there for me and. support me and there's a lot of times. earlier in my career where I didn't. really know what I was doing um just in. general. Um you know, I have like a. whole team of people to help me through. that stuff, but at the same time. I think just dealing with like the sort. of uh actory part of it, I think he was. always there to be supportive of me. Um. and I know him like as a person like I. just know he would never talk dirty. behind my back. >> Yeah. >> Um and he's just like a good He's just. an amazing like good person like that. And um I don't want to flex too hard,

but he just bought me this little. Rollie. >> He. bought you a Rollie? >> my boy for [laughter]. life. Um. >> [laughter]. >> And I hope he doesn't mind that I that I. told everyone that. But uh. >> Well, he's very British, so he'll. probably be a little embarrassed. >> Super embarrassed. >> But we're But we can flash it a little. bit. Well, that's a real friend. You. know, not one of my friends has ever. bought me a Rollie. >> I think I think this is your sign, Amy. You got to re You got to reassemble you. know, you got to like rebunch them up,

you know? >> making me feel like a Do I even have. friends? >> That's what I I That's what I said. I. was like, you [laughter] know, I just This is also like another side. piece to my story. I just had a had a. bachelor party in Vegas and it was so. fun. It was the greatest time ever. And. um. it just like. >> [laughter]. >> I showed everyone this watch and they. were all like, "Oh, that's a great. watch." And I'm like, "Yeah, one of my. closest friends got it for me.". [laughter] So, you know, but um. >> Oh man, Jacob, that's so awesome.

>> he's he's truly just an amazing person. and like I can't tell you like the the. way he carries himself, I mean just. professionally. and and like, you know, in his personal life. He he just makes sure that everyone. around him is like comfortable. But he. also he also doesn't take, you know, from anybody. He's very he very. stands on on himself and for his people. and. I think I try to carry that with myself. in my own personal life because he's. he's really been a great role model to. me.

Um. and this is probably the most I've. talked really great about him. >> Yeah, well, cuz like you. >> you. >> give each other a lot of You know, that's what friends do. >> a lot more to each other than we. do. Like I do love him to death though. Like I know that he only ever shows me. love. So. >> Oh, thank you so much for saying that. And do you have a question? Do you think. I should ask him today something he. would want to talk about a story or. something that you think would be good? >> Oh my gosh. Uh if if he if he would want to, I think. you should ask him about the boiling. rock part one.

>> Fantastic. >> I I [clears throat] think that'll. that'll really that'll put a smile on. his face. >> [laughter]. >> The boiling rock part one. >> Part one. Yes, that is that is. definitely some Jacob and Tom inside. stuff. >> [laughter]. >> Okay, perfect. And he maybe he'll say no. comment and that will be fine, too. >> Yeah, see what it is. Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Perfect. I mean, this is the kind of. this is the kind of scoop we need. >> [laughter]. >> Well, congratulations on your impending. marriage. >> Oh, thank you so much. I appreciate it. Thank you. >> You really are heading into your 30s.

with um like a a tight lower back and a. fancy watch and a new bride. >> It's [laughter] pretty amazing. It's a. pretty good way to get in. >> It's been so nice talking to you. I. >> It's so great to meet you. >> Thank you again for your work. I really. mean it that the relationship that you. guys have, you know, it's especially for. young men who are. >> [clears throat]. >> men and women who are watching it, it's. really important to show those kind of. relationships and so. >> you. >> Thanks for your work and such a pleasure.

talking to you. >> Yeah, thank you. Hope to see you soon. >> so, Jacob. I hope so. >> right. >> Okay, take care. >> All right, speak to you soon. Okay. Bye-bye. >> This episode is brought to you by. Subaru. Most cars just stick to the. asphalt, but hybrids can be found on. dirt roads, backroads, and everything in. between. Because the Subaru Crosstrek. Hybrid and Subaru Forester Hybrid were. built for adventure. With up to 597. miles per tank in the Crosstrek Hybrid. and 581 miles in the Forester Hybrid,

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>> Because we'll we'll we'll get to teasing. pretty fast. [laughter]. But you are the probably the biggest. movie star that we've had on Good Hang. You are my Tom Cruise. You are. >> Oh, fantastic. Wow, thank you so much. What a great start to the day. >> you are saving movies and I think you. are an incredible immense talent. >> Thank you very much. >> And I love your work. >> Oh, that's very sweet of Thank you. >> And I'm so happy that you wanted to. Let's drink. Let's drink after that. But I was so happy that you wanted to.

come on because you're like a huge part. of our family's experience in movies. I. have two teenage boys. They are huge. fans of your work and as am I and I. think the way you approach your work and. the way you approach who you work with. and how you work is really very very. special. >> Thank you. >> And then compliments done. >> Done. >> Yeah. >> Now criticism. >> Yes. So you grew up in Southwest London. >> [laughter]. >> You're short as.

Thank you, Amy. >> Well, you know, I'm a shorty so I never. even know how tall anybody [laughter]. is. So I think everybody's tall. Um you're a Southwest London boy. >> Yes. >> And growing up with two. artist parents. Comedian dad? >> Yeah, my dad is a stand-up. Yeah, my mom. is a photographer. >> Okay. So what is your house like? Like. what are you guys laughing at? Because. I'm kind of obsessed with the fact that. UK and US like there are big. big um.

things that we love that we don't know. about each other's comedy. >> Right. It's interesting. I mean, my dad. obviously being a stand-up. what was so interesting as a kid is that. I always thought he was just unemployed. >> [laughter]. >> because he was always around. >> Like he would put us to bed. >> Yeah. >> and then he would go off and do his job. He was either a comedian or Batman. Like. I had no idea [laughter] what my dad did. at night. >> Yeah. >> Um. >> That's great. >> So it was just a lot of fun and my dad. was always really keen for us to all.

contribute to the family dinner as much. as each other. >> Mhm. >> You know, there's telling stories, how. was your day at school? Like good was. never a good enough answer. It was. always like, "Well, tell me why your day. was good." Or tell me why your day was. bad. >> Mhm. >> And I think his showmanship really. helped us as young kids to become. you know, social and and I think it's. really helped me in my life and my. career what I ended up doing. The tough. thing about having a comedian as a. parent, as I'm sure your kids will know,

is that no one that you bring to the. house is safe. Like any of my mates that. come over when we were kids, my dad. would just rinse them. And it was like. it was almost like he [laughter] was. using dinner as like a warm-up to go out. and do a show that night. >> Oh, this is going to this is going to. hit home. >> So it was always a we had an amazing. childhood and my parents are such. wonderful people. I really admire both. of them, you know, my mom in the way. that she continued working but was also. like the most hands-on. >> Yeah.

>> mom and then my dad the same. My dad was. like I said, he would only work when we. were asleep. So he was always there. He. took us to school, he would take us out. after school. >> Four There's four boys in your family. >> of us, yeah. >> You're the oldest. >> I'm the oldest, probably not the most. intelligent of the four of us. My. brother Harry is pretty. >> Okay. >> sharp. >> Harry sharp. Is there any of the four. that are introverted? >> I think Paddy is slightly introverted. Yeah, Paddy is the youngest. He's a. really talented painter. >> Yeah. >> So he's really kind of got into this.

world of like sitting up in his bedroom. and you're like, "What's Paddy doing?". And then he comes downstairs with his. canvas and it's it's amazing. He. actually worked on. Spider-Man 4 in the art department. >> Oh, that's cool. >> I'm curious about birth order because. I'm the oldest as well and being the. oldest is like there is a. responsibility. >> Yes. >> It is. >> an example. >> One of your brothers was worked on like. was it your assistant during one of the. films? >> Yeah, Harry was my assistant for a long.

time, which was actually great. You. know, when I hired him I was a little. nervous about. >> Yeah. >> my asking my brother for a coffee and. him being like, "Fuck off.". >> [laughter]. >> Your a brother. >> Like, "What are you doing? Can I TO A COFFEE? >> [laughter]. >> BUT HE CAME AROUND? >> YEAH, he came around. He was great. He. was super professional and him and I now. are running a production company. together. >> Oh, that's great. >> And trying to sort of revitalize that. mid-budget movie and.

and you know, really trying. put those movies back on the map. >> What is it like to be in a house with. four boys? Wild. >> I mean, that's more a question for my. poor mom. >> [laughter]. >> I think when Paddy came along. there is a video somewhere of his. [laughter] birth video and he comes out. and his balls are so red. >> [laughter]. >> And I think you can hear my dad go, "Oh, for God's sake.". >> Also, I mean, your mom probably would.

would deny this to the you know, till. the day she dies, but when you're having. a fourth child and you've had three. boys, maybe you're like, maybe this one. would be a girl. >> Yeah. I think that was the intention. Listen, I want to just say that I love. my brother Paddy to absolute death. >> [laughter]. >> He is. >> He's the youngest. He can take it. He. can take it. >> it. And bless him, as the youngest, he. is the butt of every joke. >> [laughter]. >> Um I remember once we had this huge. argument when we were kids. Huge.

argument and we were outside and. sometimes our parents were like, "Go. outside and you figure it out, the three. of you. Don't fight, but just get it off. your chest.". >> Mhm. >> And then like a week later, I said to my. dad, I like really got into air rifles. for some reason. I really want an air rifle and he was. like, "Did you see that argument you had. the other day?" He was like, "No, you. can't have an air rifle.". >> Yeah. >> Um but yeah, our house was carnage, pure. carnage, [laughter] but like. >> Like broken things. Like broken Like.

there is a feeling when you have a lot. of boys where you have to just kind of. say goodbye to nice things. >> I think so. >> Yeah. >> What I have come to realize though, now that I have gotten older and moved. out and all of my brothers have moved. out, that my parents were really keen. for us to be tidy. >> Yeah. >> But since I've all we've all moved out, we have all realized that we were not. the problem. It is my parents that were. the problem. >> They were the ones. They [laughter] were the ones that. perhaps weren't. >> Are you still messy? Are you messy?

>> I This is a bit of a tough one because. >> Interesting. >> I live on two sides of the world. >> Yes. >> We live in London and we live here in. LA. And in London, I am really keen to keep. everything. really tidy. >> But when you come to America, you just. let it all go. >> I just I feel like I'm a guest when I'm. here, you know? >> Wow, you know what? We don't appreciate. that. >> I know. I know. [laughter] I should. maybe change my ways a little. >> The thought of you guys working it out. in your house makes me feel like as.

brothers makes me think about you as a. young person cuz we we started to get to. know you as a young person. dancing in on the West End in Billy. Elliot and like the way in which you had. freedom to move felt like that just came. from your house. Like right? >> parents were always huge fans of dancing. and all of us were sent to this kind of. Saturday school. It was called Nifty. Feet. It was this kind of. really fun little street dance kind of.

class and we would do these shows every. summer at the ballet school down the. road and my parents loved it. Like it. was such a fun. >> Yeah. >> time and I remember it's so funny how. there are conversations that you have in. your life that really shape you as a. person and I remember one. dance class or something, my parents. would come and watch every single time. They were always there watching. And I guess maybe I was having a bad day. or something and and I was marking all. the routines and on the way home, I.

thought that I had been really cool in. the way that I had marked it. It was. like, "Oh, I don't care. I don't need to. try that hard.". And I remember this conversation I had. with my dad where he was talking about. doing your best and even if you're not. feeling your best, you need to present. as your best. And it's such a it's so. interesting how. you know, that simple little. conversation I had in the back of his. car has been so important to me as an. adult and a professional. And I think. about that conversation a lot. >> It's so interesting you say that because. that is like a hard lesson and for.

kids of a certain age to learn that. trying is cool. But it's a it's it's so vulnerable. >> Yeah. >> And to look like you care. >> Yeah. >> And it is our instinct to just. I did it as an adult too. Like there. were times in my career where I would be. nervous, so I would just get kind of. like sleepy and ambivalent. >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, right. You're like, "I. don't really care about this.". >> Like, you know, auditioning for the Coen. brothers. >> [laughter]. >> Just being like yawning in the middle of. it. Because I was nervous. Like and it is a.

hard lesson to learn, but that is what. is the difference between, I think, like. great performances is people show that. they care. >> Totally. And it's that idea that. failing if you tried is better than. failing if you didn't try. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Cuz then you don't feel bad about it. You're like, "At least I did my best.". Just wasn't meant to be. >> Little Tom Holland dancing. Could watch. it all day. >> [laughter]. >> Janet Jackson. >> Yes. >> You love. >> I love Janet Jackson so, so much.

>> Let's talk about Janet for a second. >> Oh, man. >> She's. >> just electric. >> She's so talented. I mean, we grew up I. like Gen X grew up with Janet. Janet was. first on TV as a little young actress on. Good Times doing like very heavy. material. And then Janet, of course, Michael, but Janet, we were like, "Okay, Michael's sister, Janet.". And then Janet was her own just. incredible artist who had huge hits and.

was an incredible dancer. >> To be perfectly honest with you, I. really feel like if you asked me to list. five people that have been integral in. the success of my career, she would be. one of them because. >> met her? >> I've never met her, no. But if I didn't. >> She's here. >> Yeah, she's here. Like, "Oh my [laughter] god!". >> Janet, come on out. >> But if I didn't. show that I had an understanding of like. rhythm, my mom would have never got me. into dancing and if I didn't get into. dancing, I would never have been spotted.

to audition for this show and if I. didn't do that show, I wouldn't have got. an agent and. you know, it was never something that I. sought out. I never wanted to be an. actor. It was never like I sat down with. my parents and was like, "I have this. dream of being famous." So if it hadn't. been for that song when I was a kid, I. probably wouldn't be sat here today, which is kind of crazy. >> Eilish was here and we were talking. about how she was like, you know, getting ready to compete in. all of her dancing competitions. >> clip. It's so good.

>> hurt and then her song became but I do. feel like I have a strong love and. passion for dancing. I feel like dancing. is First of all, it feels like magic. when people can do it well, it feels. like something spiritual but also I love. it just personally because it's very. good for my nervous system. >> Yeah. >> Like it is this thing where if you can. shake it out and move, you can calm yourself or whatever. It is. this really. primal thing that I think opens the door.

to all different types of creativity. >> Totally agree, yeah. >> So what is your relationship to dancing. right now? How often do you dance? Where. do you dance? >> It comes at a very interesting time. because last week I did my first dance. rehearsal for the Fred Astaire movie. that we're doing in. >> Oh. >> I'd I It's funny like I. I don't find myself getting that nervous. anymore for things, you know, because. you do it so often and it becomes second.

nature and it feels like another day at. the office, but. I went to Pineapple Dance Studios, which. is where I trained as a kid when we were. doing Billy Elliot. I was with the. director of the movie and the. choreographer of the movie. >> Wow. >> And I was petrified because I'd been. telling this guy, this director Paul. King, I said, "Don't worry, bro, like I. can dance.". >> [laughter]. >> Babe, I'm not one of those actors. >> Yeah, yeah, like I'm a dancer, dancer. >> Yeah, I was on the West End, okay? >> Right, and we get there and it's a, you. know, a bare room with a hardwood floor.

I've got tap shoes on, first time I've. worn tap shoes in 15 years. And. immediately I'm like, "Wow, my feet feel. like in these shoes." [laughter]. Yeah. And then he kind of was a little bit. like. >> Okay, do your thing. >> me what you got. And I I went over to the computer and I. Googled the the Billy Elliot music. and was like, "I'm either going to do. something amazing here or I'm really. going to shoot myself in the foot." And. I played the song and what was so. amazing is how it really does live in.

you, you know, like the music started. and then it all started coming back and. I could see the lights, I could see the. audience. And without even having to think of what. the first step was, it just happened. naturally. Now, if I did the dance like. I did last week in front of my Billy. Elliot choreographers when I was a kid, they probably would have buried me. because it was horrendous. >> of questions. >> been really upset. But it was really it was really exciting. and I've been very nervous about the. idea of making that film just because.

you know, it's going to be a huge. undertaking from a prep point of view. and it's also a big risk, I think. You. know, it's a big movie and. >> for it. We're ready for it. >> excited, but after that rehearsal. any fears I had or any questions of. like, "Should I be making this movie, completely left the room because I think. my biggest regret in my career so far. is that when I finished that show, I. quit dancing. >> Yeah. >> And I just, you know, would dance in a. club or something like that, but. wouldn't go and take class. >> Yeah.

>> And the thing I love most about my job. is that. you can book a a film and learn all of. these amazing skills from the best. people in the business, and to be able. to do that again and pick up dancing. from square one and try to get back into. it, I think it's going to be so. fulfilling. >> It's so cool. I mean, like you you you. were on the West End at how old? How old. were you when you were in Billy Elliot? >> I started when I was 11. >> Wow. >> And I finished when I was 13. It was a riot. >> I mean, I I've said this to many people.

who who do um theater and are, you know, on a on a in a long run. Like to have. the hardest part of your day be at the. end of your day is really hard. You. know, you're just always prepping for. the end of your day. >> Yeah, totally. >> Was Do you feel like in many ways that. was the hardest you ever worked? Was. doing that show? Or because you were. young like what when you go back to that. time. what do you feel like your energy? Did. you just have unlimited energy at 11, 12, and 13? >> Yeah, I think [laughter] so, really. You.

know, it was tough, but yeah, no, I. think there was also there was four of. us. There were four Billys at any one. time. >> Yeah. >> And you would share the role, so you. would do Monday night, someone would do. Tuesday night. >> Right. >> You would do standby, so you would be. backstage in case a Billy got injured. and you would have to rush on. I. remember one night I had the night off, I was playing golf with my dad. and we got a phone call saying, "Oh, Ollie's come off the show, Brad's going. on. Can you come in to be on standby?". Cuz it had happened in like the first 20. minutes of the show.

And then by the time I got to the. theater, Brad had then hurt himself. So. I had to go on, and someone actually. wrote a letter into the theater and was. like, "Wouldn't it be easier and less. confusing to just use the same kid. rather than constantly changing them. out. Um. but no, I don't know if it's the hardest. I've ever worked. I think the Odyssey, the the most recent film I did, I mean. that was. you know, one of the toughest jobs I've. ever had. >> wait to talk to you about it. First of. all, can't believe I'm not in the. Odyssey because everyone else is.

>> [laughter]. >> Christopher uh Tech and Mail, Tech and. Mail. >> [laughter]. >> Um but. I mean but I cannot Also, [laughter] all. I've heard is that how hard it is and. you do hard things in your movies. Okay. >> [laughter]. >> You. But before we get to those, the two. biggest movies of the summer that you. are in, um I just want to talk about The. Impossible for a second. >> Okay. >> Because Yes. For people that haven't.

seen it, don't watch it. It's too sad. >> It's [laughter] intense. >> It's so intense and it's so sad. It's so. good. >> It's It's heartbreaking. >> You're incredible in that movie. Your. performance is incredible. Naomi, you. and McGregor, the the younger children. who play your brothers are incredible. It is for anyone who. The moment when you reunite is like, you. know, I know that I'm depressed when. that comes up on my TikTok. Like I know. that I'm. >> [laughter]. >> Your algorithm is. taking you through your woes.

>> Sometimes my kids will look at my. algorithm and they'll be like, "Mom, what's going [laughter] on?" And I'll be. like, "Oh, I got to watch this scene. again." I started crying explaining the. scene to Jenna this morning. I was like, "And [laughter] then they fight each. other." But. Tom that movie That That movie is What. was it What would it What do you. remember about the experience of making. that movie as a young person? >> I think for me, just a an acting. masterclass from Naomi Watts and just. getting to be on set with her every day. and watching a professional at the top.

of her game. deliver, you you. a sort of masterful performance while. also taking me under her wing and. teaching me everything that I knew and. know about cinema, really. You know, I. >> Was it your first feature that you had. done? >> Yeah, it was my first film. So, I had. left Billy. Yeah, I did my first. audition for the film while I was in the. show. >> Wow. >> I think I had the summer off after I. finished the show and then went straight. into make that film. So, I had no idea. what I was doing. >> Wow.

>> And I can imagine as, you know, an. actress that was doing a job that she. would might describe as the hardest role. she's ever played to have to also teach. a young kid how to do it. >> Mhm. >> She showed such patience and she was so. caring and kind and I would make. mistakes because you know what it's. like. >> Yeah, where do I go? Where's my mark? Where is the camera? Red sausage on the floor. Like, what is. that about? And. >> she was so sweet and kind and even if we. were in emotional scenes, she could just. snap right out of it and say, just.

you're you're blocking me from the. you're standing in front of the camera. >> Incredible. >> move, she would get right back into it. So, she just was an absolute powerhouse. and she had a great work ethic. She was. so kind and courteous to the crew. So, it for me, starting my career in this business, it. could not have been a better blueprint. for how to behave and how to, you know, work. >> talked about in in all in Spider-Man, in. Odyssey, in all of the stuff you've. done, like you talk about people that. you've met, who you've learned a lot. from, like mentors in some way.

>> Totally. I think my favorite thing about. being an actor is that. you are the only person when the camera. calls cut who is allowed to be in the. middle of the room and do absolutely. nothing. Right? You You can be in the middle of. that kind of. ecosystem and you have nothing to do. You're just waiting for everyone to. reset. So, you have the perfect vantage. point to just watch people work and see. how they do it and see how they do it. differently and see how directors.

communicate with actors or crew, see how. actors take notes. I love listening to a. director give an actor a note. >> Yeah. >> And go, I I can't wait to see how you. interpret that note. And sometimes. you're like, wow, I wouldn't have done. it like that, but that is actually. really interesting. >> Yeah. >> So, for me, it's less about asking people for. advice, and it's more just sitting back. and watching them work, really. >> I think that is the the thing is that. people are always watching how people. behave in the world. >> Totally. >> And it what you say means nothing if.

it's different than your behavior. Like, you just watch how people behave. >> Exactly. And you know what it's like on. a film set, you're there for 5 months, you're up at 4:00 in the morning. Like, you get to see every shade of a person's. personality. >> Yeah. >> So, seeing someone like Matt Damon, for. example, on The Odyssey, I have never. seen anyone work as hard as Matt did on. that film. >> Yeah. >> And he was as kind and gracious as he. was at the beginning of the day, at the. end of the day, and on the toughest. days. >> Mhm. >> So, it just was it was awesome for me to. see someone as experienced as himself,

also just be the nicest guy and treat it. as if this was his first movie. >> Yeah, that's awesome. >> [applause]. >> You go from The Impossible to Spider-Man. and somehow, and you know, you've talked. about it a lot, 1,500 people auditioned for that role. Getting that part, um, it's just it's. just like winning a 10-year lottery, and. it's just changed completely changed.

your life, and also it's someone telling. you like, "Hey, the next 10 years of. your life are going to be this." Like, it's heavy and exciting all at the same. time. >> It's It was a really weird day, the day. that I found out that I got the part, because it's all I had ever wanted. I. remember watching Andrew's movies in the. cinema. >> Yeah. >> I just thinking to myself, like, oh, wow, like, imagine if I got an. opportunity like that to play that. character. Like, that would be. >> But. >> then you were like, I could that. You. need to believe you can. >> that I could do it. It was more just.

this like hunger of I would love to play. that role one day. I then spent the next like five years. thinking about it, thinking about it. I. found out that they were they were. auditioning for it. I got myself in. there and. I spent about six, seven months. auditioning for the film. And all I. could think about was getting that job. >> Yeah. >> And then the day that I got it and I. found out, it was like through the roof. excitement and then immediate like, oh, but now I have to actually do it.

>> dread. >> Why did I want this? >> Like this is a nightmare. [laughter]. Like you're holding the hot potato and. you're like, who can I give this to? >> Totally. And like, >> [laughter]. >> what's been crazy is. doing this fourth film now, Spider-Man: Brand New Day, I felt very similar to the way I did on. my first film, which was. excitement, fear, you know, trying to find this sense of. confidence that I could do this cuz the. third movie was so successful and. sharing the screen with Tobey and Andrew.

felt like the perfect send-off. >> Yes. >> for all of us. So, when I walked on set. for the first time, there was a feeling. of like, is this the right thing for us. to be doing right now? Like, should we. be making this movie? And then when. Destin came into the fold and start the. director, it all of a sudden felt like, oh, this is exactly what we've been. missing and I am so excited for this. next chapter of the franchise because it. feels different. It feels new and. unique. It feels more mature. Um and you know, I love Jon Watts, the.

guy that directed the first three. And I. think tonally he did such a good job. with making these films feel like the. experience of a teenager. >> Yeah, well, I love what you guys are. getting into, which is this idea of if I. had to relearn why I love people. >> Mhm. >> Like that thing of if I had to if I had. to like do it all over again, would I. choose the people in my life? Like it's. a deep cool metaphor for. what it's like to get older, like to.

grow up, to look at your life. Like it's. very cool and and and also like what. what is memory? Like what what are we. supposed to remember? What are we. supposed to let go of? Like it's very. very cool territory. >> Yeah, I think my proudest thing about. this new movie is the message. You know, it's it's a superhero movie at the end. of the day. Tom Rothman, the studio. head, kind of describes it as a. superhuman movie because I think the. message is so important for young. people. In this digital age, it's so.

easy to sit at home of an evening and. just scroll through your phone and just. turn your mind to mush and to forget. about how important socializing is. >> phone is my best friend, so I don't talk. about her like that. >> it. Tell I had like a whole bunch of. work I was supposed to be. doing on the plane [laughter] yesterday. >> Growing up, did you care about. Spider-Man because. you and dressed up as Spider-Man? Yeah, because I have boys who loved. Spider-Man, too, and they and it's. really fascinating to watch how that.

character gets into the psyche of girls. and boys. Um why do you think they love. Why did you as a young kid? >> I think it's because he's always asking. himself that question of who am I? You. know, cuz he doesn't know who he is yet. He's this young experience of. failing or trying to talk to the crush. that you have at school and it doesn't. go well or being behind on homework and. it's it's just that youthful experience. of finding out who you are as a person.

And what I love about this film is that. the whole premise of the movie is that. he's neglecting who he is. He is kind of. trying his best to suppress his trauma. and just focus on being a hero while. failing to realize that the person he is. makes him the hero that we love. So, it's a really nice little balancing act. And I also think if you ask any young. kid what their favorite color is, it's. going to be red or blue. >> [laughter]. >> And he has both of those.

>> He's got them both. >> He has both of those. >> both, babe. >> Yeah. >> And he also does that thing where he. shoots from his fingers. And and. but it's not this kind of shoot. >> That is very important distinction. >> it is a They're totally different. distinction. I'm probably doing it. wrong. >> That's close enough. >> Yeah. >> And. and that for little young people feels. like a way to like like expel energy. Like. And the other thing I'll just say is. that of course because you're a dancer,

the way you moved as that character cuz. Spider-Man moves so it it when you And. you've talked about this, which I love, is like you like to get into characters. physically first. Like that's how you. kind of walk around the space with them. And. I I I just wanted before we move off of. the dancing part, I just want to say. that I think there's a deeper reason why. your viral moment. >> [laughter]. >> dancing to Umbrella was so successful. I have to bring it up. I'm sorry. I've.

watched it 5,000 times. >> more compliments for that dance than any. piece of work I have ever done. >> Yeah, I probably watched it more than. most movies. Um but I not only because of the talent, not only cuz it's just so funny and fun. and great and like you guys are having. such a good time together. But it's a person who is, dare I say, comfortable with their feminine side. >> Oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. >> Well, oh, yeah, totally. Yeah. But.

that's not always the case with men in. general. And I mean, you've you've. talked about it like being a young boy. doing ballet, being like a. a person who's had to like figure out. like what is what is typically male what. is typically female like what what comes. from all that when you come out. confidently in that in that outfit. >> [snorts]. [laughter]. >> and crush it. was like exploded everybody's ideas of. everything in the best way. Now I'm not.

supposed to like I know that wasn't your. intention maybe but I just hope you know. that it opened up a lot of feelings for. other. >> [laughter]. >> I will say that at one point in the. dress rehearsal the lady was like do you. think we could cut the shorts a little. bit short I was like no. >> You were like okay. >> I'm doing enough. >> I'm doing enough for the cause. >> still [laughter]. years ahead of its time. >> 100%. and that moment what is your memory of. that moment doing it cuz did you feel. the time like this is really fun and.

funny and goofy or and then has the. response been confusing to you or did. you what what what's your memory of. doing that? >> I I was I was really excited about it. >> Yeah. >> I was nervous at of doing a live show. >> Sure. >> and doing the dance and messing up the. choreography or something like that. But. it's funny it never really crossed my. mind. how it would be received. I just thought. oh what a fun idea like we'll do this. kind of singing in the rain thing and. you felt the energy in the room was.

literally deflate. Like I started doing. the thing in the suit and there's like. you know everyone in that audience is. like 19 years old. So everyone's like what on earth is he. doing? >> Right. >> And I just knew in my body I was like. when I take this suit off. >> [laughter]. >> you are going to go nuts. And I remember like I had to put. lipstick on behind the dancers and stuff. and I had to rip the suit off behind. them which I'm always sad I didn't do. that on camera cuz it was so fun just. having a rip away. suit.

>> Um. >> They probably were they wanted it like. covered just in case you didn't get it. right. >> Just in case you know there was. >> Little did they know they were working. with a professional. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. A professional. >> And that And that dance is a great. example of what your dad said in the. car, which is like, go for it, babe. >> Yeah. If you're going to do it, give it. 100%. Yes. Yeah. >> It's such a thrilling performance. >> Thank you so much. Thank [laughter] you. >> It is. Am I wrong? >> That's why I'm so excited about this. Fred Astaire thing because of how kind.

of scary it is and how much if I don't. commit to it 100%, it won't work. And I. kind of love the idea of that. >> There's like a million different ways in. which you can put your art out into the. world, right? Everybody gets to put it. out however they want. But, you know, there's just there's. there's few repres- representations of. men that feel like they're like open to. experiences in that way. Am I making any. sense? >> totally. Yeah.

>> Okay, so save us. >> Yeah, I [laughter] will do my best. >> Tom, please. But, I want to ask you one question. Don't or I want to ask a favor of you. Don't do any more stunts. [laughter]. Dude, >> Oh my word. >> no more stunts. >> I know. That was. >> In movies, period. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. But, I do feel like stunts are. they're Well, I mean, you just have to. be. What. when you're doing a stunt, what do you. do with your body? Like, what what's.

What are some tricks? >> Just let it happen. Like, just grip it. and rip it, >> [laughter]. >> you know? Like, more often than not, you're on a wire and you're there's. another guy on the end with a button and. you always want to make sure you say. hello to him and keep him sweet because. you don't want him to dial it up and. just fire you off into oblivion. Um [laughter] but, truth be told, I have an amazing team of stunt. performers that I work with. And, you. know, the luxury of the Spider-Man suit. is that when one of us is in it, we're.

very interchangeable. >> Mhm. And as it is a character that. requires an like a really elite level of. physicality. >> Yeah. >> Those guys are, you know, ex-Cirque du. Soleil performers, ex-British gymnasts, you know, world champions and stuff like. that. So, >> as the movies have gone on, my appetite. to do everything has definitely dwindled. because they do a better job. >> Yeah. >> Like I can do a backflip, but Luke can. do a double backflip. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like if you want it to be. really special, sometimes you have to. take your ego out of the room. >> Yeah. >> and just let them handle the tough.

stuff. >> to protect the money maker. You got to. protect the money maker. >> Exactly. >> I mean, come on, babe. We can't we can't. mess with that face. >> No, but I do love it and it is fun. The. rush is really great. When you do. something. that is really scary and it goes really. well, it is a great feeling. >> bet. And it does feel like the closest. to being an athlete. >> Yeah, totally. Yeah, absolutely does. Yeah. >> like, "You did it.". >> Yeah, well done. LET'S GO. >> YEAH, EXACTLY. Cuz sometimes acting. doesn't feel that way. >> Yeah, it's not. Especially on set cuz. there's, you know, whenever the if you.

crew give you a round of applause, it. feels so like they're just like, "We. want to go home, babe. [laughter] Like. get on with it." Yeah, well done. You. did some acting. >> [laughter]. >> Um. >> But yeah, if you do a stunt, you do feel. like pretty badass. Yeah. >> Um uh. the last thing I was going to say about. Spider-Man is Jacob, your relationship. with Jacob is really really cool. >> Yeah, he's the best. >> He and I mean, I love that you guys are, you know, real friends in real life and. met at a young age and kind of grew up. together doing the the films together.

and also it just like shows. like Ned and Peter's relationship, I. think, is an example of like great male. friendship. Um and um. we spoke to him before this podcast. >> [laughter]. >> Oh, no. >> Yes. We got um we spoke um we we he talked a. little bit about you and also he gave us. a question to ask and he was a total. delight. Um he flashed his um his. [laughter] Rolex. >> Oh, really? He showed you? Nice. Nice.

>> But, um he wanted me to ask you a. question. He wants me and you do it Feel. free to pass if you want because I don't. know what this is about. >> [laughter]. >> So, I don't know. Um he wants me to ask. you about the Boiling Rock part one. >> Oh, wow. The Boiling Rock. >> [laughter]. >> Is this worth talking about? You can tell us off the air. >> [laughter]. >> I think I should probably tell you off. the air. >> it. I knew. >> But, now it's going to sound like we're.

smoking crack or something. >> [laughter]. >> No, it's such a typical boy thing. I was. like, "Give me a question that he. [laughter] would want to talk about." He. was like, "The Boiling Rock part one." I. was like, "He's not going to want to. talk about it.". >> Oh, man. Yeah, no. We'll chat about that. >> Okay, we'll chat about that later. But, tell me what you love about Jacob. >> I JUST LOVE HIS [laughter]. OH, MAN. I'M TAKING THAT ROLEX BACK.

>> [laughter]. >> UH. I JUST LOVE HIS I love who he is as a. person. I love his soul. I love his his. energy. I love his his enthusiasm. He, you know, what's been so amazing for the two of us. is that. our lives changed on the same day. together. >> Yeah. >> And we've been through this whole. journey together. And I've loved every. minute of it. All of Jon's movies making. those and now working with Destin. It and sharing that with someone that. has been there since the beginning is.

really special. >> Yeah. >> He's also just one of my best mates. Like, if I haven't seen him for 6. months, when I link up with him, it's as. if no time has passed. >> Yeah. >> And he's an amazing actor and I think. that no one could play Ned the way that. Jacob does. I think that he is the only. person that could get those kinds of. laughs. And especially in this movie, I. think he's really dialed up the humor in. in an excellent way. And I just I just love him. >> like he feels like he's he's like that.

character is like a. a stand-in for the fan, almost. You. know, like the audience. >> And I think that was Jon Watts's kind of. goal was to create a movie that felt. like all of us were experiencing what. it's like to be Spider-Man. But me and. him, we just did an escape room. together. >> [laughter]. >> And everyone was just like, "Climb the. walls, babe.". >> We were in LA and I text him and I was. like, "Are you here?" And he said, "Yes." And I was like, "I booked this. escape room, bro, if you want to come.".

And. >> [laughter]. >> we went, one of the producers from the. movie came, and him and I were useless. >> Really? >> Useless, but we're both leaders, which. is a recipe for disaster. >> That's right. >> So, there was a lot of like, "Jacob, let. me do it. Let me do it.". >> Yeah. >> "What are we doing here?". >> And then the time is ticking down. >> Yeah. >> [laughter]. >> Yeah. It was no good. But I love him to. death. And I I really he will be a. friend for life, and he is such a. wonderful person, and I couldn't be more. grateful to have done this with him. >> Yeah, well, he says the same about you.

And and the other big gigantic movie. coming out this summer that you're going. to start talking about and probably be. doing press now for the next 5,000 years. >> Yes. >> is The Odyssey. >> Yeah. >> Um which uh it looks incredible. I um. who do you play in it? >> I play Telemachus. >> Okay. >> When I first sat down with Chris, I. said, "I'm so excited to play. Telemachus.". >> Yeah, sure. >> I'm heavily dyslexic. >> Mhm. >> Which is one of the reasons why, and I'd. love to talk to you today about it, actually, is why I've never done SNL.

>> [sighs]. >> Because of the cue cards. >> so petrified at the concept of like. trying to read something, and they. change. >> Well, I I'm sure they have had many. dyslexics host. >> Totally. It's just that like for me, I. can read fine. >> Yeah. >> But when I have to read out loud, it. just becomes like a kind of. >> Sure. >> It's like a mental block. >> Yeah. >> And I can freeze. So for me, my worst. day at work is the read-through. Like at the read-through, I will really.

try and highlight everything and learn. my lines ahead of time. >> Yes. >> So that I'm more kind of skimming it. than I am reading it. >> of remembering it visually, but you know. it. >> Yeah, so I've been you know, I've been. really lucky that they've asked me a few. times to do it. And the truth is is that. I'm actually just really scared at the. prospect of I love the show and I love. the idea of having fun and making a fool. of yourself in such a fun creative way. It's just that thing of the cue cards. >> to remember there have been people that. have hosted that have been fully on. drugs. >> Yeah, that is true. That is true.

>> I think you [laughter] can do it. >> And who are these people? I'll tell you if you can tell. >> You can tell me the boiling rock, I'll. tell you those people. >> [laughter]. >> But it is but but that's so. I I love you talking about that time. because it is true like the way we learn. >> Mhm. >> how everybody learns is very different. And of course then what that does is it. makes you like be a physical tactile. person.

>> Right. >> Like that's that of course that's how. you become that's how you express. yourself. >> Yeah. >> So okay, this is interesting to me. because to me like a a nightmare would. be being in a Christopher Nolan movie. and like not knowing my lines. >> Like that's a nightmare. >> Yeah, but that would be bad. >> [laughter]. >> Okay, so your character is how would you. explain your character? >> My character is a young man. who is. kind of. feeling this incredible sense of.

protection towards his mom. >> Mhm. >> She's under an immense amount of. pressure from these very vulgar men. >> Mhm. >> who all want to marry her and become the. king of Ithaca. And Odysseus, my dad, he. is the king of Ithaca, but no one knows. whether he is alive or not. >> Who's playing Odysseus? >> That is Matt Damon. >> Ah. >> And the story is about a dad trying to. come home and a young boy trying to find. his dad. >> Oh. >> And there is obviously a wonderful scene. when that kind of story comes full.

circle. >> Yeah. >> And you know, for me it was a dream come. true job working with Chris. >> What's it like working with him? >> Just a dream. An absolute dream. He is. He is so fun to work for. >> Fun. >> Working for Chris is just a it's a. delight. I absolutely loved working for. him. I admire him beyond belief. His. crew is without a doubt the best that I. have ever worked with. >> a quiet place? Like I picture everyone.

in suits being very good at their job. >> I would say it's a very focused place. >> Focused. >> It's definitely fun. >> Yeah. >> You know, like I laughed a lot when I. was there. >> Yeah. >> And we we had a really good time. >> Yeah. >> But it's definitely we are there to do a. job. We are there to try and. you know, create something that has. never been done before. We were filming. everything on IMAX. >> What is I've heard this now, but what. does that mean for you? How does it make. a difference for you to film on IMAX? >> The camera is like as big as this table.

>> Okay, so the camera's huge. >> humongous. And if and they had this. thing that Hoyte had designed, the. cinematographer, which we called the. blimp. >> Uh-huh. >> And it was essentially you remember. those old boxes the the stills. photographers would have that would. dampen out the sound? It's essentially. that, but for the camera. >> Woah. >> So when they put the the camera in. there, you can't hear anything. But if. they're having it handheld, it goes like. It's like super [laughter] loud. >> Woah. >> So it's it if you're doing scenes like.

that, it is really difficult to focus. And I I struggle focusing sometimes. And I remember again, like talking about. lessons and watching actors work. I. remember a scene between Matt and Anne. Hathaway. >> Mhm. >> It's about a 9-minute scene, and the. camera can only run for 3 minutes at a. time because it runs out of film. >> Wow. >> So, they would run it, they would take. it out the blimp, reload it, put it back. in, and then the two actors would just. carry on from where they left off. And. this is like the most emotional scene in.

the movie. It is like. it's so fantastic. And to see both of them, cuz obviously. they shot I think they shot Matt's side. first, and then they shot Anne's side. So, that took almost an entire. afternoon. >> Mhm. >> And to see them stay in character and. stay in that emotion and never waver and. never come out of it, and they would. call cut, they would reload the camera, Matt and just stayed there in the moment. for 3 minutes maybe before the camera. would roll again. >> Wow. >> It was just a master class in patience,

professionalism, and like confidence in. themselves. >> Yeah. >> It was awesome. And I think Chris. Chris really. gives you a lot of confidence. >> Yeah. >> Like there's something about. doing a take and him coming up to you. and giving you a pat on the back and. sort of saying, "Great, let's move on.". >> Ugh, that must have been so great. >> "Oh, wow, like I nailed that.". >> such a he's in so incredible. His his. work is so incredible. And you're right, when you work with people who are in. like that elevated space like.

really in the top of their game, you. just like. a right a rising tide rises all raises. all boats. >> That's exactly it. That's my favorite saying. >> [laughter]. >> That's my favorite saying. >> Also, I want to say that you get to work. again with your partner in life, Zendaya, who is an incredible actress. >> is. >> What do you learn from her as an. actress, as an artist? What do you like. working with her? You work with her in. Spider-Man, you work with her in this, you work with her in life. What do you. what have you learned from her?

>> I think what I love about watching her. work. as an actress is she's just fearless. >> Yeah. >> She's just like absolutely ten toes. down, like I'm going to give this. everything. And I think when you watch. her as Rue. >> Yeah. >> in that show she could not be more. different to who she is in real life. And then if you see her as Emma in the. drama it's it's just such a different. performance but with no less intent or. passion or drive.

>> Yeah. >> And I I think she's. I think she's the best actor going. I. really think she has like something. special. >> Whenever you're in a relationship where. you're just doing the same thing. >> Right. >> that can be super helpful because you. understand what the other person is. going through. You understand. >> It's a wild world being in this industry. and you know there are ups and downs and. you know you go from shooting a movie. which is when we're all at our most. comfortable and then you do a press tour. which feels like you're kind of standing. out on the stage. >> Yeah, yeah. >> and it's so nice to have someone that.

understands that in such a personal way. >> Yeah. >> so that you can talk each other down or. you can big each other up and and it's a. lifeline. It it really is. I couldn't. imagine doing what I do without her. >> Please don't ever. We love you two together and also. I know it's we don't know you. We're we're. this is we're projecting. But and I don't know Zendaya but I am. such a huge fan of her work and what I. feel like she and you both prove is like.

the more talented you are. the easier you are to work with. Like. you guys come into I've heard just the. most amazing things about her and how. she works. And. um you guys just deliver this version of. how to work that is really really. amazing. And I can see why you you. respect that in each other. >> Yeah. We we had an amazing moment on. Spider-Man Brand New Day. And it's only. because of our relationship that this.

happened. Where we were shooting this scene and we. shot my coverage. We then turned around on Zendaya. We're. doing her coverage. And I would never. ever dream of saying this to an actress. that I wasn't. with. >> Right. >> And I said to her I said, "Do you think that this scene is. working?". >> Yeah. >> And she was like, "No. I don't think. this scene is working at all." So I then. went to the producers and asked like, "Do you think this scene is working?". And they said no and I was like, "Yeah, me and Z are like really not feeling. it." I then went and sat down with. Destin and said, "Hey man, listen. I.

know we've been shooting for hours and. I hate to tell you this, but I just I. don't think that this scene is working. Z and I like what we're supposed to. feel, we're not feeling it in the. moment.". And what I love about Destin is. he's so calm. >> Mhm. >> There's nothing that could throw him. off. >> Mhm. >> And he just kind of he listened and he. sat down and he was like, "Well, what is. it that you're trying to feel?". >> Mhm. >> And I told him. And he went, "Yeah, you're right. That's exactly what we. need to be feeling." So he just he said. to the crew, "Everyone can go home.

>> Incredible. >> We're going to sit down and we're going. to rewrite this scene with the writer. Justin. >> So smart. >> Who was such a talent. And. we came in the next day, we reshot the. scene and I'm so glad that we did. because it sings in the movie. >> Yeah. >> But it's just it's a it was just so. funny. Like I was thinking about like if. this wasn't Zendaya that I was sitting. across from. >> Sure. >> Imagine on someone else's coverage being. like, "Do you think this is working?". >> Well, I have I have done that. >> [laughter]. >> And I'm here to say it did not go over. well. >> No, it does not.

>> Yeah, because it's like, "Is this good?". >> going to do it like that? >> I go, "Are we doing a good job?" And. they're like, "Are you talking to me?". >> [laughter]. >> This is my best work. >> Nope, I'm talking to myself. >> Yeah. >> Yes, you're so right. I mean, that. there's an intimacy that matters when. you're doing work like that. And also, you know, in the reverse, when you're working with. someone you know very well, sometimes. you forget like oh, we have to kind of. just like show up and be scene partners. here and we have to not like. cross those boundaries.

>> yeah. >> But yeah, it's I mean, it's exactly what. I'm talking about is like I feel like. you guys are always striving. and challenging each other and. challenging you know, and and being. partners and in life and in work, it's. really really cool to see. >> Thank you. >> I do want to tell The one thing about. The Odyssey is and in Spider-Man, you. have to do an American accent. >> Yes. Which actually weirdly. feels more comfortable for me as an. actor. It just feels like there's an. immediate degree of separation from who. I am as a person. And you know, doing different American.

accents is difficult, you know? On The. Odyssey, I think there was a few times. where I went full like New York Queens. >> [laughter]. >> like Odysseus, you're home. How are you? You know? And it's like, what the. >> [laughter]. >> So, I think that. >> Are there words that help you get into. an American accent? >> Ironically, the word that I struggle to. say the most is Spider-Man. >> [laughter]. >> It's so weird.

>> You know what? While you drink, I'll. share that my Boston accent, my East. Coast Boston accent. >> Okay. >> when I was playing Leslie Knope, the one. word that I had a hard time saying was I. still have a hard time saying is. government. >> Government? [laughter]. >> Which I had to say so much in playing a. government employee, but there's. something about the word. >> [laughter]. >> gov- govern-. government cuz we would say government, like government. >> Oh. >> We say government in Boston. Yeah, like. that you you get rid of the R.

>> Okay. >> Like yeah, like I have to deal with the. government. >> Okay. >> govern- government. >> Cuz also there's an N in there that. isn't usually government. >> yeah. So, because you'd want to say Spider-Man? >> No, because I would want to say. Spider-Man is what for some reason just. sounded so much more. And I'm like, that's kind of New York, isn't it? And. he's like, no, that is the Deep South. Um. >> [laughter]. >> But I. >> Y'all you were like, y'all I'm. Spider-Man. >> Yeah. Hey y'all.

Um yeah, I don't know. I just I for some. reason. >> good at it. >> I really found Spider-Man a difficult. word to say for some reason. >> Isn't it funny? I mean you you I'm sure. a lot of people don't know that you're. British. >> You I do still get that actually a lot. Getting recognized on the street and. people are like. >> [laughter]. >> uh. What is going on with your accent, dude? >> And you know, the Brits are not always. the best at American accents. >> That is true. >> The Irish are a little better and. Australians are the best. >> You think so? >> I do.

>> Yes. >> Like Naomi speaking she's fantastic. There's a lot of very good like. Australians that crush it. I think the. Brits tend to be the worst. >> That is an interesting observation. >> I'm just going to say I cannot do a. British accent so I would never even. try. >> A British accent is tough. >> There's so many of them. >> There's just too many of them. And you. have to commit to one. >> And it's quite it's hard. Zendaya has. become amazing at British accents. It's. actually kind of crazy. It's crazy. Um but yeah, I think and. also it's very difficult to do a British.

accent and not make it become a. caricature of your accent. >> I mean I think I think conversely like. with Brits when they do American accents. the one thing that they do is they. they kind of always turn into. this kind of talking. >> Right. >> Like it's just very cuz they want to. make sure that they're rounding out. their consonants. >> of long Rs. >> Yeah. >> One of the things I find really. difficult is a lot of Americans, New. Yorkers especially, when they're. ordering food, it's very different to.

how we order food. In England it says, please may I have the burger with number. two. Thank you so much, please. Thank. you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. And in America it's totally fine to be. like, I'll have the number two. Yeah. Just leave it at that. >> Especially in the East Coast. >> Totally. >> Yeah. And I would be doing scenes and my. dialect coach would come in and be like, "Stop saying please.". >> Ooh. Like, yeah. >> A kid from New York's not going to say. please if you're asking for a burger. So, I you can see it. There's a moment. in this movie where someone asked me for. a coffee and I just go, "Sure." And even. through the suit, you can see [laughter].

like I'm like, "My dad is going to be so. disappointed in me.". >> [laughter]. >> I mean, in New York, it's gotten to the. point where it's like, "Let me get.". >> Yeah, yeah, yeah, totally. >> but that is so I mean, I I'm still. shocked when people get I'm like, "Let. me get a uh egg and cheese." It's like, "Let me get.". >> [laughter]. >> My dad always says to me, he goes, "No, son, you can't go and get it.". "They'll bring it to you. But you can't. go and get it." "You can have it.".

>> Let me get. >> "But you you can't go and get it. They'll stop you getting it.". >> It's so true. I mean, I I I the other. last thing I'll say is that it took me a. long time real to realize that quite. meant something different for Americans. as than it did for Brits. So, quite for you means pretty good. So, like. >> Yeah. >> How was it? It was quite good. >> Yeah. >> That's means it was pretty good. But we. don't understand that as Americans. We. use quite as like it was very good. So,

like it was quite good. >> Oh, wow. >> Like we say like, "It was quite a show.". >> Oh, wow. >> So, for a long time, Brits would be. telling me that they kind of didn't like. things that much. [laughter] And I'd be. like. HE SAID IT WAS QUITE GOOD. >> [laughter]. >> AND I DON'T think enough Brits know this. that we don't always understand that. quite means pretty good. >> But we are like, "He loved it." Which is. also very American. We've talked about.

your films. Before we go, I just want to. talk about your beer. >> Oh, yes. >> Your. beer. >> Yes. >> Biero. >> Biero. >> your brand. Um, congratulations on it. >> much. >> We've been drinking it from these cups. the entire time. >> Delicious. >> And um. why did you start a brand and why. non-alcoholic? >> So, I quit drinking. >> Yeah. >> um because I. I had a problem. >> Yeah. >> and I just couldn't put it down and it. was affecting my professional life, it.

was affecting my personal life and my. health. >> Mhm. >> So, I decided to to pack it in and I got. through that first year, which I think. was the toughest challenge that I've. ever been on. And during that first year, I noticed. that there was limited options for. people like me that were looking for. something that would scratch that itch, that would help you. live or go to the bar and be a part of. the social experience, but not feel like. the only person with a lemonade.

>> Yeah. >> The truth behind the shandies, which. we're bringing out this summer, is that Z has never drank. She's never. been a drinker. >> She's incredible. >> She's the best. She's the best. >> the best. >> She's never drank. >> on her game. >> I know so. much. And um. which means she never found the taste. for beer. >> Yeah. >> And everyone remembers their first beer, it's a little bit like that kind of. >> Yeah, it is. It's like, why does my dad. drink this all the time? >> And then you get drunk and you're like, oh, okay, let's go.

>> not here, but I'm here. >> Right. So, she just she's incredibly. proud of Biero is just there there is a. missing link of like she doesn't enjoy. the stuff that I'm trying [laughter] TO. SELL. >> RIGHT. >> SO, [gasps]. MY MOM ACTUALLY came up with the idea. and she said, you know, what if you did. a shandy, which is uh it's essentially. half a beer and then half a lemonade. >> Ooh. >> And we have a. grapefruit flavor, there's lemon lime, there's blackberry yuzu, there's. elderflower and And was a ploy to create.

something at the company that she could. enjoy. >> Yeah. So, when this comes out, you will. have turned 30. What is something you're. looking forward to about turning 30? What what what's exciting about it? >> I am. >> [sighs and gasps]. >> I'm incredibly proud of my 20s. >> Mhm. >> Like I look back at. the things that have happened in my life. personally and then professionally and I. look back on them really really fondly. So, I'm kind of sad to say goodbye to my. 20s. >> Nice. >> But equally excited to to walk into my.

30s. I think as a kid growing up in this. industry, I've always just been a kid at. work. >> Yeah. >> You know, and I'm really excited to sort. of and I think that's probably an. internal thing. Not that people treat me. like a kid. >> Mhm. >> It's just I've always felt like, oh, I'm. just kind of the young one here. >> Yeah. >> And I'm really excited to be. you know, a young man on set and and. experience what that's like and I have. some really exciting projects in the. pipeline and uh. and yeah, I'm excited.

>> That's awesome. I mean, I I I feel like. just much like Spider-Man. Like there's. so much ahead for you, but there is uh. uh it feels like from a very young age. you've had a very strong sense of. yourself. That is kind of like something. that you just kind of have. It's a thing. often you're born with and I think. people feel it from you. Um. I know I'm count myself as one of the. many people can't like wait to see. whatever you're doing next is really. awesome. And so, we always finish our.

our our um interviews by asking our. guests like, you know, in these in these. like often complicated and troubled. times, what they're doing to laugh. >> Right. >> [gasps]. >> Who makes them laugh? You come from a. funny family. >> Yep. >> What are you watching, listening to, reading? What video do you watch over. and over again? What is your like. comfort What's your comfort movie? What. is your like comedy go-to that Tom that. makes Tom laugh? And then I want to show. you a Tik Tok dance and see if you can.

teach me. >> [laughter]. >> But don't worry, not now. >> I. >> Now that we're friends, we're going to. hang out. >> My favorite night out. is to go to the comedy club. >> Ooh. >> I love all stand-up. I think it is the. bravest form of art in our world because. it's like I remember being backstage. with my dad. I've always been so. impressed by my dad. Like. >> Mhm. >> he is like my hero because he he never. brought the bad gigs home. He never brought bad gigs home. He's.

always been someone that's incredibly. positive. He's super ambitious. He's. really tenacious. And I remember one. night he took me to the Comedy Store. and we went together to watch and we. went backstage and we saw all the comics. kind of getting ready for their set. >> Yeah. >> And I was so impressed by when I go to. work, I get picked up. >> Mhm. >> Someone makes my breakfast. >> Right. >> [laughter]. >> Someone hands me the words that I'm. supposed to say. Someone will tell me. where I'm supposed to stand. Someone. dresses me and I'm considered an artist, but so much of that work is done for me.

>> Mhm. >> But then backstage, you see them taking. their anorak off, putting their pack. lunch on the side. They go out, they. nail it, they come in and they head off. to the next club. And I know some of. them have writers and all that sort of. stuff, but to see the singular effort. that it takes, I was always so impressed. by that. Um. and I love that my dad took me to see. that cuz it was really eye-opening to. me. >> That's cool. That's very cool. >> Mhm. >> Tom Holland, thank you so much for being here. >> Yeah, my pleasure.

>> It really, really means a lot. We were. very, very excited to have someone of. your caliber sitting across from. [laughter] us. And um congratulations on the two jet. most gigantic movies ever coming um and. thank you for all the work that you do. and thanks for being so great and a. pleasure to meet you. >> you, Amy. I appreciate it. Thank you so. much. Thanks, guys. >> Yay! >> It's been so fun. [cheering and applause]. >> Tom Holland, >> [sighs]. >> ah, what a delight. Love talking to you. Thank you so much. for coming. And, um, can't wait to see. what you're in the summer and what.

you're in ever. Forever, for the rest of. your life. Uh, such a fan. Um, and, uh, for this polar plunge, I just wanted, you know, we talked a little bit about. dancing and we talked about Janet. Jackson and um, there is a choreographer. on TikTok, um, named Charlie Waky who. has started a trend where he he created. a dance to like a Smooth Criminal. mashup, a Michael Jackson song. And, um, I just I just love that side of, um, dancing online where somebody starts,

uh, trend and then other people kind of. take it on and do their version of it. and I've been watching it a lot. So, check him out, check out all the. original choreographers and dancers, um, online, uh, who are making great stuff. And, um, keep dancing, babe. Keep dancing. Okay? Thanks. See you soon. Bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The. executive producers for this show are. Bill Simmons, Jen Statsky Berman, and. me, Amy Poehler. [music] The show is.

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