Seth Meyers | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hey everyone, welcome to another episode. of Good Hang. I'm really excited uh. about our guest today. My old dear. friend Seth Meyers is joining us today. And talking about friendship, Seth is. such a good friend and I talk to him. about what friendship means to him. I. try to guess his middle name and we get. tears, people. I get him crying more. than once. So, bingo. It's that kind of. episode. But uh before we get started, we're always um trying to ask people who. know our guest to tell me questions to. ask them. And joining me from the Cayman.

Islands on his vacation is the great. producer of Late Night with Seth Meyers. and ex producer at Saturday Night Live, Mike Shoemaker. Shu, can you hear me? This episode is presented by Athleta. Summer is here. It's time to get outside. and get active. And Athleta has just. what women need to move the way they. want. That's shorts for every type of. run from a casual jog on the beach to a. competitive road race. There's squirts. for on the court and pants for cool.

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Cayman. The beach is over there. Now, before we get into Seth Shu, when I. arrived at SNL in 2001, what was your. job? What was the what was your title? I. think I was producer. Mhm. I had, you. know, I was there already 15 years, so I. was, you know, I knew what I was doing. Finally, I had had my thousand hours of. So, you didn't meet young [ __ ]. shoemaker. And how where did Young. Shoemaker get started at at SNL? How did. Young Shoemaker get his started script.

PA? Uh my first job uh there was in 1986. which is a changeover cast Dana Victoria. Jan and um first thing was uh I came in. and the job was to take a a yellow legal. pad written script out of a bin and type. it up so that everyone could read it. because it's precomputers so big old. selector typewriters and I was actually. hired because I had typing skills um and. I could type fast and not make mistakes.

So the first thing was a church chat. So. I had to like read Dana's scroll with no. punctuation. I always read the scripts. first. Even when the time you were. there, I would put the read through. order in. So I got to read everything. before performance. So I got better at. understanding everyone's performance. style like the way like I could never. guess how Maya would pronounce a word. still to this day because she always. will change it. I cannot believe that. Dana Carvey wrote church chat on yellow.

legal pad. Literally, you could not find. a period or a comma in it. Like, he. didn't know how to do them. Yeah. So, it. worked. It worked. I mean, so Shoemaker. was the guy and it still is the guy. Like, kind of. You're You know, I I've. said this before publicly. You're the. best producer I've ever worked with. I. think you're an incredible producer. And. now, how long have you been working at. Late Night? Since the beginning. Uh, yeah. So it's 11 years. What's that? 11. years in until I So Amy and I left the.

same day basically. Yeah. She and I they. had a we had a combined goodbye party. Yes. And it was that is called like my. surprise party because Amy set it up and. didn't want to call it courage, but it. was really ours. Now um I'm I'm talking. to Seth today. I'm almost worried that. I'm too relaxed. You know what I mean? Because I feel not. at all nervous. I, you know, it is a. friendship that's so easy and we can. hang so easily that I I feel kind of.

underprepared. I'm gonna try to poke him. a little bit with some things that'll. get him a little mad cuz he's it's a lot. of fun when Seth gets mad. It really is. fun. It is kind of the most fun. Well, I. I hope someday you come on as a guest. because I do want to continue to talk. about Amy. Amy, you have sponsors. Yeah, that's true. Bill Simmons. Bill's never. going to No, there's no way he's going. to let you on. Those blue eyes would. turn black saying, "What are you booking. these [ __ ] people?" No one ever heard. of. Just keep going with it, famous.

people. You're right. I'm sorry I even. said that. There's no way you're going. to be a guest. I mean, we literally just. had Michelle Obama. Like, we just had. Michelle Obama. Like, no offense you, but Yeah. Yeah. Like, don't call us, we'll call you. I mean, it's We're never. gonna get to you. Tell Bill that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm sorry, Bill. I even mentioned. it. Um, but um Okay. So what do you. think I should be what would you want to. hear me ask Seth today? What do you. think we should talk about? Anything big. or small? So the question that I want. you to ask is that I think the reason. that we all became a unit is because um.

you and I saw him first and by that I. mean he felt seen by us before everyone. else there did. I think that's accurate. because you had you were kind of famous. and I was a producer there 15 years but. he was like a feature player that you. don't necessarily invest in in the first. year because you don't know what's going. to happen but we did. So we were the. first people that he felt seen by so my.

question would be what does he think we. saw? What does he think that we saw in. him? What a great question. as early. investors to the Seth Meers Corporation. What does he think we saw in him? He is. going to have That's a deep question, dude. He He might have He might turn. into sand like when he has to He might. just turn into a thousand crows and fly. away. Like that just might be dirt. That might. be what also, you know, he's a talk show.

host. So like compliments he like when. people come on and compliment him he has. to end it and turn it around. So he will. like say nice things about us and say. like we were perceptive. Now you should. allow that and don't don't edit that out. but. but also like put it on fire. Make him. say like what qualities did he have. because I think that will be a nice. thing to hear out of him because he. doesn't talk nicely about himself. I. know. Uh I think uh I think Seth is.

probably least comfortable talking about. himself and I I relate. I relate. I I. would much rather talk about No, it's. hard to get you to do it, too. Yeah. Say. something nice about yourself now. Yeah. Uh well, I have a fantastic fake food. collection in my podcast. I know. I seen. it. It looks great. And you know, I um I. collected it. That's all I That's all I. can think of. Well, Shu, I love that. you're taking a vacation. You worked too. hard. Congratulations on 11 years. We.

got to celebrate the 10 years together, which was great. I mean, I hope you do. 10 more. You think you'll do 10 more? I. don't know. I don't know. What's TV? What's the world? I don't know. I don't. know. It'll be It'll be like this maybe. Is this TV? This is TV. TV where I talk. to you in a over over there and then But. you listen to Yeah. Right. That's how it. works. That's TV. All right. I love you. Thank you so much and thank you. Catherine and Mike for setting Mike up. on this and doing they're ready on the. beach. Great. Okay, go to the beach. Thank you so much for I love you so.

much. I'll see you very soon. Okay, bye. All right, bye. For those listening, Seth's already. giving us a time where he needs to be. out. He needs to be out by 12. I don't. feel like you respect other people's. schedules. I mean, I feel like before. we've even started, Seth told me, "How. long asked how long is this going to. go?" Oh, glasses. Well, hello. Same. kind. Pretty pretty similar. Whoa, that's weird. You get tortoise. Show. I. tortoise. Of course. I am going to wipe.

my glasses on my pants. Um, when did you. start wearing glasses? Within like the. last 6 months. Really? You waited? You. were that I did a great job. And I. I think it's easier to do crack cocaine. once than wear reading glasses once. You. know what I mean? The minute you put. them on forever. I wore I put them on. for like two seconds. What's your. prescription? Just a one5. Yeah. What. are you? Try a two and you're you're I. don't But no, I don't want to try two. What? Cuz go back. But just try it. See. how much better everything looks with.

it, too. I mean, that's really good. Yeah. Let me try your ones. I'm I'm not. even going to feel those. See, it. immediately immediately busted. I wish. Um, this is actually not so bad. I can see. this pretty well. Don't do it. Go back. Yeah, maybe I should go back. Maybe I'm. partying too hard. listen to your. podcast on now that you're a podcaster. Do you feel like that's an unfair. question? Thanks for calling me that. Um. and and you really are a podcaster. Yeah, you do too. Mhm. Um what do I. listen to my podcast? Yeah, just I once.

said to a podcaster Yeah. that I listen. to them at 1.5 and they were hurt. Oh, you mean fast? I I never speed up. What? You listen to podcasts slower? You slow. it down? I slow it. No, I listen. regular. I never speed up. Oh, interesting. Sometimes I'll do the. 10second skip like if if like a podcast. gets like gross or something or if I. know, you know, like what are you.

listening to? What the podcast gets gross for 10. seconds? This is my interview. We are. with Seth Myers and he's already asking. me questions. And Seth, I'm realizing. you're we're sitting the way we used to. sit at Update. It is. It's our update. position. And you also were sitting the. way you usually sit on your show. I'm. very. grateful that it's this. You in Well, your people insisted on it, did they? No. No. No. Um, but I I feel very. strongly about having a good side. Okay.

Thank you for saying that. Um, a few. people that have noticed that I've. switched to another side. I started the. first couple of podcasts on that side. That's what that's why I thought you. maybe did this for me. And I I did it. for me because I feel like I have a good. side and it's this side and you like. that side. I like this side. And if. anybody wants to see our bad side, they. can look at the Entertainment Weekly. cover we did, which is the worst photograph of either. of us. Yeah. It was shot with a fisheye.

lens. I think they did us dirty and I. was pulling your tie like and it was. like And it was like, would you like to. see two asymmetrical faces look even. weirder with this lens? And I was so. excited. That was a time in my life. I. was so excited. We were on the cover of. Entertainment Weekly. Yeah. And then I. saw it and I felt unexited. I don't. think there's been many photo shoots in. my life where I've seen it and thought. nailed it. I don't think I've I could. maybe count them on my hand. I feel very. strongly think we have in common is we. have great faces that as long as they're.

moving, got to keep moving. Got to keep. moving. But once they stop, there's no. good freeze frame as a whole. Yeah. No. Yeah. Um, in fact, I used to when we. used to do photo shoots and they'd say. like, "Don't worry, we're going to just. do like a light retouch." I would say, "Light ret eyes and a mouth. That's all. I want to see." Yeah. I don't want I. want the heaviest retouching you could. ever do. Yeah. Don't feel like you're. doing me a courtesy of being like, "We. barely touched it." I'm like, "Go nuts.

Get your best touch guy in here. You're. the wand and the like I know there's a. there's a thing now of like being. natural like don't retouch but I'm. against that 100%. If you want to see. the real thing come see the real thing. but otherwise you're getting the retouch. version. If you're asking me to stay. still then we need to paint over change. my nose and everything. No, but I feel. like we've done a lot of photo shoots. together over the years and I bet you. get what I get what a lot of people get. which is they really want you to be.

funny. Yeah. And they want you to do. funny things. Yeah. I had a. heartbreaking GQ photo shoot where first. I walked in and the photographer uh oh. didn't know who I was. for the GQ comedy issue. So that was. that put me in a headsp space where I. was maybe felt as though a mistake had. been made. Yikes. And then I remember. they had wanted I think it was whipped. cream like whipped cream from the like. and they wanted to spray it all over my. face and the amount I had to say like.

you know this will just look like bad. Yeah. You know what this also looks like. on a on a face and they were like oh. it's funny they used to want to put a. lot of weird stuff on my face too. One. time a guy was like I have an idea where. your hands are covered in barbecue sauce. and you have barbecue sauce all over. your face. And I was like, "Okay, it is by the way like people who get. talked into like a young in their life. like a like maybe a a pornographic photo.

shoot." Yeah. Very easy. Could have. happened to me in a heartbeat. If. anybody had ever shown a mod of common. interest in that. Yes, absolutely. I. would have been 100%. And I think the. same thing happened to you that happened. to you where you'd go to a photo shoot. and it was like you'd turn the corner. and there'd be a table of rubber. chickens and clown noses and giant props. and you'd just be like, "Oh god, I'm. such I'm I'm I'm Yeah, I'm being pimped. out." Yeah. Yeah. And I feel as though. they should save those for the dramatic.

actors and just let us look nice for. once. I completely agree. Okay. Seth. Meyers. Seth. Kevin Myers. What's your name? What's. your Oh, let me get I don't know it. You. don't have to. Seth. Hold on. Get it. Seth. Do you want Myers? How many hints do you. want? I'm going to get it. Seth. Michael. Myers. You want You're going to get it. without hints. How lucky they I know your family. I. know your family. Seth David Myers. No.

Oh, Seth. Again, there's hints. All. right. Give me a hint. It's an a name. Oh, Seth Alexander Myers. Seth Andrew. Myers. No. I was so worried because I. know these are only an hour and I. thought, "Oh, I think it's going to go. by so fast." And now I'm so happy we're. not going to cut this out. Seth Albert. No. Oh, that's your dog. Family dog's. name. By the way, my dad, you know, for. those not in the know, we've had six old. English sheep dogs. They've all been. named Albert. And then, uh, when we.

started giving all our kids a names, my. dad was very, he admitted he was. hopeful. We were going to also name a. kid Albert and I said, "No, I think you. took it away." Yeah. If all the dogs. hadn't been named Albert, there was a. chance, but like we weren't going to. name our kid after a living dog. Okay, one last guess. Uh, don't cut this out. Don't cut the No, this is good. People would like this is. good for for Especially because I think. people were tuning in being like, you.

know what, I can't wait cuz they know. each other so well. They've been friends. for so long. And then what they get to. do is listen to you just without hints. try to guess my middle name. Um, uh, my. last guess is Seth America Myers. That. is what I do like to I that's what I. answer to. That's my full email. Uh, Adam. Adam. Sure. That makes sense. Okay. Seth Adam Myers, when did we first. meet? Well, I remember the first time we.

met probably better than you remember. the first time we met, which is I was at. IO improve. Improv Olympic. Yeah. And uh. there was a Herald show. Mhm. Which is a. improv show and there used to be two. different teams and there would in the. middle there would be the dream. Yes. That's what you want. Which was an. improvised game where somebody from the. audience would come up, somebody on. stage would interview them about their. day and then the two improv. teams would improvise what their dream. would look like. And I came up on stage.

and you interviewed me and it was not. during a show with me and Tina. It was I. also saw the show with you and Tina. You. saw it? Okay. Right. But we didn't call. you up, right? So I interviewed about. you about your day and we did not know. each other. We did not know each other. I was a fan of yours and it was very. exciting to get interviewed by you. Then. the next time the next time we spoke was. after we both got hired. Do you believe. in the simulation? Do you believe that. like there's some kind of universal. thing where like basically that people. come in and out of your life in. different ways and you didn't really I.

do a little bit. Yeah. Me too because. that's a very simulation thing. Can I. tell you though something? Yesterday I. got the same Uber driver on backtoback. days in Giant City Los Angeles. And I got in the car and I was like, "Can you believe this?" And it meant. nothing to him. And I was so I It was so. disappointing. Yeah. Did you What's his. name? Well, that was a thing. Oh, you. didn't even find out. No, I know. That's. why I remembered. His name was Mush. Mush. M U S H. So, I might be saying it.

wrong, but like Wow. So, that's one of. the reasons I was like, you can't there. can't be two, right? And I was like, hey, Mush, I'm back. You said I'm back. Yeah, it did feel like a curb episode. where I was a very frustrated Larry. David like mush. Hey, remember me? And. he's like, "No, I'm just trying to get. you to the Grove." Yeah. Okay. So, we. And then the dream happened. We. improvised your day. Y cut to you and I. starting at the same time at SNL. People. People may not know this, but we were.

both there post 911 and our first show. was two weeks after it and there was. like a very interesting We were part of. a a freshman class. It was four people. got hired. Yeah. It was who was it? Dean. Edwards. Yep. Jeff Richards. Yeah. You. and I. Yeah. And then for writers, Spivey. Emily Spivey. Max Brooks. Yes. Charlie Grandandy started with us. Yeah. And we all kind of came in together and. we kind of met in Shoemakaker's office.

as a lot of young young new people did. to like kind of get the lay of the land. But I think we might have like met each. I don't Yes. I'm going to say something. and hopefully I won't. get too emotional saying it, but I. remember like getting hired at SNL was. already cry cry. Oh my god, sounds I'm. gonna put on my glasses. This will make. it. No, but like I remember getting. hired at SNL was like already like but. they said and Amy Polar also got hired. and I was like, "Oh, I felt even. elevated that I was like, "Oh, I'm in. Amy Polar's class." You know what I.

mean? Yeah. For those that can't see, Seth has tears in his eyes. I don't. think I do, but I feel You almost cried. You're such a crier. Oh, I'm such a. crier. You love to cry any I love to. cry. I'm going to make you cry. I I I. also only cry historically about stuff. that makes me happy. Say more. What do you mean? Well, like I. don't think I cry a lot when I'm sad. When you're sad? Yeah. Well, like I know. a lot of people are like, "God forbid. you express how you feel when you're. sad." No, when I'm sad I think it's like.

turn into a rock. Like Yeah. Little rock. little rock guy. Little rock guy that. everybody loves loves the company of. rock man. Okay. So, we started SNL the same time. Y and speaking of that time, um, you know, I Okay, I love your. podcast. I've told you this. I've been. on them. I've participated in them. You. do family trips with the great Josh. Meyers, your brother and partner on that. podcast. And you do, what's it called? Seth, the Seth Myers, the Lonely Island,

and Seth Myers. Seth Myers podcast. It. was only fair to put them first as we're. really only talking about their look. Well, but and that podcast is. incredible. It's a joy. It's so good. I. want to talk to you about it. But that. but on both of them, you have like as. I've listened, you slowly un like I've. learned something about you that I don't. think I really took in, which was those. early years were harder for you than I. thought. They were so hard. I know. Crying was so. But I would have guessed the two people.

who knew the most would have been you. and Shoemaker. So, I am but I will say I. am happy that I kept it hidden the way. that I did cuz I don't I I don't think. like um. when you present the feelings that I was. having at SNL I think that that is not a. a vibe that people want to like be. around. Right. And it and it is it can. become like a little bit of a. self-fulfilling prophecy. So, what was. the vibe then if you were to distill it.

down? What was the feeling then? I just. felt as though they'd made a terrible. mistake, right? Like just full imposttor. syndrome. And I showed up and pretty. quickly, I think, you know, to go back. to what I said, like I was so excited, you know, oh my god, I'm they're hiring. me at the same time as Amy Polar. And. then you walk down the hallway and. you're like, oh my god, I'm in the same. show as Will Frell and and Chris Katan. and Tracy Morgan and you're like, look, I'm one of them. And then you realize. like no, like you then have to like do. the work and show that you're, you know, at the same level. And those early years.

as well, I just had that sense of I can. write for this show, but like I don't. know if they actually like need what I. bring as a performer to this show. And I. don't feel like I was being hard on. myself either. There was a there were a. lot of guys in your time like a lot of. Well, in the early days it was it felt. as though I could see the road ahead of. me cuz I forgot that thing which is when. people like Will Ferrell and Jimmy.

Fallon leave Katan that doesn't mean. like you get their parts because they. also hire people behind you. And that. was for me the real crisis of confidence. was and again you know I say this these. are dear friends these are people I'm. huge fans of but like when like Sedakas. and Samberg and Fred and Will and Hater. rolled through. Yeah. And I would be. writing sketches. knowing that if I was not a cast member. I would not write for me. Like if if it. wasn't my job to take care of myself and. I just wanted my sketch to air I would.

be my sixth choice too. So I, you know, early on I kind of wanted to like blame. the writing staff for not putting me in. things and I'm like, "Oh, I mean you if. you have this toolbox at your disposal, I understand that." Well, I think that's. what's so wonderful about you and also. what can be painful is you're not you're. not a really you're not a diluted. person. No, you do not you don't have. the like warm bath of delusion, right? That some people are like, "Ah, you are. a very realistic person." So, you're. able to look at things very. realistically and be like, "I have to. figure this out." Yes. And I did feel. that vibe. Okay. So, we do this thing on.

our show where we ask people uh. beforehand um to um give me questions. for the guest. So, I talked to. Shoemaker. Okay. Good. Good pick. Yeah, of course. I knew I would like He is. technically your It would have been so. funny was like I I'm a little tired of. talking about Seth. He's in the Cayman. Islands right now. So, we got him when. he was on vacation and um I by the way. called him on the way here. He just. texted me and said, I'm ghosting Seth, so tell me when you're done. He didn't. fully ghosted me. Yeah. He said, "I'm.

not picking up." And then I was like, "Oh, well, he's" And then when you said. you were talking to him, like obviously. you called him before he was in the. Cayman Islands. But no, no, he just. picked up purely ghosted you. I mean, and you two are like in another life. You are brothers in arms. You are each. other, you know, like if you believe in. I mean, I'm pretty good with what we are. in this life. I think it's I mean, he is. as close as I could be to a a person. Yeah. you have an amazing friendship and. he has he gave me a question to ask you.

that I love so much is the best question. of course cuz Shoemaker is such a good. producer and and writer and friend but. he gave me I think the best question. I've been given yet now I've only done. like six episodes so um but um but he. did while he was on with you did the. doorbell ring and did a thousand dogs. bark thank you again for doing that by. the way I owe all of you a lot. I mean, I owe Dra like half of this the money. I. feel like it's the movie I've been in.

that I get the most feedback on. I think that like that's 60 seconds. The. amount in the last month people been. like, "Oh my god, I can't stop watching. the clip." I can't either. I where. Drach's headphones tangle and then the. doorbell rings. It's like watching a. oneperson show. It is. It is like. watching a like a Broadway like a a. clown on stage like a farce. It's like. somebody said do noises off in a minute. just you. And people don't know we cut.

so much out of that because Dra couldn't. get her headphones truly untangled for. minutes and then couldn't figure out how. to plug it in and then they weren't. working and then the doorbell rang. So. we cut a lot out. Yeah. And then her. laptop died. She was carrying around. like a a pizza box around her whole. apartment. And thank God for you because. you were the only one that was trying to. keep it going cuz Fred Fred's just. watching. Oh yeah, Fred. Zo was was on. set I think so she could barely hear and. you were like so how's it going Amy? I.

was like it's going good. I think it's. going good so far. Oh Dr. Um, okay. But. Shu, nice try trying to, um, fake me out. so that I don't ask you this question. But, um, uh, Shu said, "Let me ask you. this, which is. I would agree that in those early years, him and I saw something in you. We kind of invested early in the Seth. Meyers Corporation. What do you Oh my god, I'm getting him. to cry. Oh my god, you guys. I wish we.

could zoom in. This is my dream come true. I'm getting. you to cry. Okay. There's so many. This. is specific kink that people are This. is, you know, people are going to This. is like a kink. Okay. Wait, wait, wait. We have tissues. We have tissues. Where are they, Sam? Oh. my god. Thank you, Sam.

[Music]. You've connected. You've connected. Oh. my god. This is what the show's always. If you have this, this is what this is a. trap. I just want to remind you we only. have a few minutes left with our session. and everyone else. All it is with Jack. Black is like your joy. Talking to Ike about restaurants. [Laughter]. What is going everything? Is this not. even a podcast? This is like the just s. six fake episode traps. If you look past.

the camera, there's a bunch of friends. and family that love you and want to. talk to you about something. Oh my god. We just think you need to get some help. And we we just using this opportunity. Okay. What's the help here? And if you. need to squeeze this cheeseburger, you. can. This will help. What is it? What? What. do you mean? What is You know, this is. all fake food. What? What is this. podcast? I've listened to every episode. I have a real sense of it. I'm like, it's food based. Okay. Okay. If you get nervous, just.

talk just talk into the talk into these. bananas. Okay. But what do you think Shoemaker and I. what do you think we saw in you? I this. is very un I feel again this is very. unfair. Um I don't. I don't know. I mean like to be honest. like. one of the things that I feel most. grateful for is I don't know. M I didn't. see it. Yeah.

So, um I know to this day like I don't. make it on that show without you guys. I. And I think that uh. I was very lucky that Lauren. saw me through your eyes and she's eyes. because I don't know if I you know what. again like I don't feel like um I feel. like Lauren has been uh is is obviously. a fan of mine now and has a lot of faith. in me but like that can I think you're. okay. He thinks you're fine. Is this. where is this a quote? He sent me a I. said I'm I'm interviewing Seth today and.

he went, "Oh, Seth's fine. He's okay.". That's what he said. Did you. The Lauren gave a quote in the New York. Times about me. Yeah, please say it. again. It's so good. Genuine like two. quotes that are like insanely It's all I. heard from everybody in our world was. how [ __ ] funny the Lauren quotes. were. One was I love Seth or I care for. him or whatever it is you're allowed to. say these days, which is the it's the funniest. I'm like.

I think you misunderstand whatever you. think woke is, you're allowed to say you. love a male friend. Like he's like I love you like. backtracked like he's like I want to get. cancelled. I don't want to get caught loving loving. my friend. And then the the reporter was. like Seth's really good at it. I I think. Seth's a really gifted impressionist and. he's like I don't know if I'd go that. far. and I believe he said I think he's fine. which is the best the best gifted was a.

little over the top. Yeah. So um when we. did update together which was so fun in. so in a million different ways and there. was like when I think about us being at. the desk together I think of two things. One I had ease because I had gotten to. do with Tina like I just genuinely felt. a little more relaxed. I was so um. trying to figure out how to do this. thing when I was doing it with Tina who. had done it with Jim. Like we it was. like this passing. But what we also got. to do to got to do together in real time.

was like figure out how we were going to. do it together. Yeah. and the way in. which we're going to do it and because. you and Shoemaker and and you know. previously like Mike Sher and Alex Bass. you know I was right like the team was. so strong of update writers and people. it just felt like you were in a club. within a club you were on SNL but then. you also got another secret key.

and I know we talked about it being on. update you could relax that you were. actually going to be on the show yeah. that made such a difference. We talked. about this recently, I think, in the. Lonely Island pod, but I remember Andy. wrote this sketch called That'll Move. the Chains where he was a kid in and uh. like in the booth of a football game and. he kept saying that'll move the chains. and it worked. It was fine. Uh it was. very funny. I'm I'm underelling it. But. then he came in my office like a month. later. He goes, "I think we're going to. write another that'll move the chains.". And I said, "Another?" Cuz it just.

struck me It didn't strike me as a. recurring character. Yeah. And I just. said another. And he goes, "Not. everybody has update every week." I was. like, "All right." Like when you Cuz. again, I got to go from that thing of. like desperately fighting to find a way. to have a reason to get into hair and. makeup on Saturday to having update. Yes. And then also you got to say your. name. Got to say my name. Obviously not. my middle name. Nope. Never saw your. name. Never said your middle name. Can I. I feel like the most. uh tense. our.

uh uh chemistry I ever had was uh. mornings update mornings bagel times. Yeah, cuz someone had pre-split the. jokes and then there were a few like. left over that we both wanted and I feel. like there was a real dance of. interesting. I would say that I thought. I would have hidden that but that's. probably true. I think we were like are. you going to take that joke? Yeah. M hm. I wonder who takes the good joke here. Um my here's how I saw it from you. It's. like hm that feels like a Amy joke.

Do you want it? I'm like and I be and. I'd be like I mean I would love it. It. would mean a lot to me as a friend. I'm. asking for it. You're like it's a real. Amy joke. I just feel like it's going to. kind of flop. And then I would go I hex. this joke. I would hex it. Yeah. You. would hex it. I would I curse you and I. curse you. And when I when if I the few. times you let me have it, you would be. off camera while I was telling it going. thumbs down. Um I don't remember us ever. fighting at all. That was it. It was. just that like where we did we did.

argue. I would say that one of the. things like I don't think we ever got. into a we never were but we like to I. mean look really came out of that right. like this. We like to be frustrated and. irritated and I don't mind being. frustrated and irritated with people. that I'm close to. That is like a way of. My favorite thing is when you and I feel. very differently about a movie or a TV. show. Yeah. Like that when we have. different opinions about something cuz. it's very fun when you're mad about.

something. Okay. So, with that in mind, I'm going to give you a couple of. things. I want to know your opinion on. it. Okay. The beach. Oh, I'm not a huge fan. I'm. coming around on the beach just because. my kids like it, but given a choice, it. would be one of the last places I would. be. What do you What do you not like. about it? What are you going to do there. that wouldn't be better anywhere else? Like see the ocean. See the ocean, but. like you can see the ocean from uh like. a porch somewhere, right? Like there's.

there's a lot of vantage points on the. ocean that are not in sand. You don't. like the sand. Like you have a sensory. thing. I It's just Here's the thing. I. everybody wants to go to the beach, then. I go to the beach and then they're like, "Get the sand off." Like the amount. they're like, "Don't get sand in the. car." I'm like, "I didn't even want to. come here.". You know what I mean? Like I was so. happy. You could have left me where I. was. The sand would never have been a. problem. Mhm. So no. I love the beach. and that's where we disagree. I. no interest. No. Yeah. Have you? No.

Yeah. I that one feels like the combo of. I always feel like there's a white. bucket around that people are puking in. and I'm always like first of all let's I. don't know decorate the buckets or. something like it just feels so weird to. not decorate the buckets like it just. seems like very stressful. Can I say. that I think you might be the only. person to have this bounce on Iaska is. that they don't decorate the buckets the. buckets and also other people. Yeah. I. mean, I guess maybe, but like maybe if I.

could do it if I had like a IKA guy, like a private guy, but it seems like. you have to do it with a bunch of other. people. There's also I feel like I've. known a few people who've done it and. they tell you it's changed their life. and then you like talk to them three. months later and they seem a lot like. they were before. They bounce right. back. They bounce right back to it. Turns out once the IASK is out of their. system, how do you feel about getting. older? Um, that's a good question. I turned 50 last. year. Congrats. And thank you. I turned.

51 this year. So I'm You didn't. celebrate prop. I like it's Look, I'm in. that dead no bars sell service December. 28th. There's no room for somebody like. me to have a birthday and I'm fine with. it. It's been my whole life. Why don't. you have a birthday like like a half. birthday when you're 51 or something? I. know that's even as I said it sounds so. stupid. We all got that invite. be like. a Okay, he lost his mind. Um, I felt. totally fine turning 50, but then I.

think part of it was because it was 50, I was like taking stock and I'm like. this is, you know what, I would be very. happy if I knew all these things were. going to happen to me by the time it's. 50, this is really good. With that said, like I think. the as it's like 51 and a half or. whatever it is now, I'm like, h, yeah, no, I don't dig this as much. Here's. that thing that happened to me the other. day. Stop pointing. Seth's pointing at me. Don't point my French bread at me. Um,

had a dream that I was being chased and. had to I was crawling through one of. those transom windows over a door, you. know, and then I uh woke up, my neck. hurt and I was like I that's I've. officially I hurt myself from a dream. because I was trying to crawl through. it. You pulled your neck in a dream. I. pulled my like what happened? It's like. well in my dream what kind of sleeper. are you? Do you like do you fall asleep. fast? I do. And then do you sleep. through the night and do you snore? I uh. we've uh we're now wearing mouth tape.

Okay. I want to talk about mouth tape. I. talked about CPAP with um Jack. Yeah. Black. Um I would like to switch to. mouth tape. Sorry. I don't want to. abandon my CPAP people. My CPAP army. Um I'm sure they're out. there right now. Are you my. Capp? But I would love to get to a. mouth. You're a pap. I'm a pal. Yeah, of. course I'm not an animal. Um, but I'd. like to get to a mouth tape and I have. tried a mouth tape. Okay. Uh, I'm a.

little worried about I'm hooked on the. moisture that I get from my CPAP. You. know, you get like um like moist air. It's really nice for the nose. Yeah. You. don't get that with mouth tape. No. What. kind of mouth tape are you using? You. could I mean, you have a giant staff. What if one of them just stood over the. bed with a little spray bottle and just. I mean so many because when I see your. staff and I'm polite to them by the way. which they seem to really appreciate and. they very much appreciate it but there a.

lot of them are like we feel like. there's not enough for us to do. Well no. you know I I like to have them work on. the holidays and you always wish them a. merry Christmas and I appreciate that. Um you're allowed to again you're. allowed to wish say merry Christmas. It's really nice. Um what was I gonna. say? Oh. So, yeah, I was shocked cuz I. do have a hard time breathing through my. nose. I feel like I'm I've been stuffed. up like almost the entirety of my life. And yet, when you tape, I think it kind. of forces you to like early in the. night, you're just like breathing. through your nose. You're keeping the. airways open. I'm a big fan of it. I'm.

I'm thinking about switching over to. tape. Now, I should say, and I hope this. won't disabuse you of making a switch. One night a week, I wake up at 3 in the. morning and do this. So, if that sounds jarring. to you or whoever might be in the room, that would be good for a commercial for. mouth tape. By the way, do you cuz you. mentioned butt tape uh with Jack Black. Do you remember the the uh Fred's. breathing rate? Oh, wait. You mentioned.

it on um I must it must have been in my. You guys just mentioned it on your. podcast. Really? Tell people for what. they for those that didn't hear. It was. a Breathe right strip. It was a Fred. commercial parody. It was a breath right. strip uh for your butt that would pull. the way because breathe right pulls the. nose apart to make it easier to breathe. And so this pulled the butt apart so. that when you pass gas it wouldn't be. loud and it wouldn't wake up the person. in bed with you. But it has the best tag.

because it's the the it's him in bed. with wig and it's quiet. You just hear. like. but then she still goes what's that. smell? cuz it doesn't doesn't get rid of. the smell. Just doesn't make noise. anymore. And I remember her being. disgusted by that. Yeah. Really good. Really good. Disgusted wig. Okay. What. about uh what people do at airports that. drive me nuts? What do people Well, like. let me ask you this. What time do you. arrive for a flight? I. lot of cushion. Mhm. For the pushing.

Lot of Sorry. Sorry. This is I feel like you don't even care. I feel like this was another trap. Uh I Yeah, we get there very early. We. never check Never check it. Absolutely. not. It's kind of stunning. Um you can. board Hey, you have young kids, so you. can board. Yeah. Although we That's such. a scam. By the way, we are now out well.

outside the zone of what they mean by if. you're boarding with a young family. That's not true. Your kids are still. young enough. I think they I think they. mean toddlers. Oh, wait. Cuz your youngest is how Addy. is three and a half. No, I I I would say. as a judgmental person at the airport, I. would not mind that. And I think. everybody realizes, it is better for us. to get on first. I don't know. Sure. I mean, I I think that's a little. bit obsc. with young children, but you're right.

When I had young children, it was nice. to be able to have It's also nice for. everybody else. I'm just saying like if. if they let you on before the boarding. starts and and our maniacs are in their. seats, but I know you can be kind of. hypervigilant like I am about when. people are doing stuff wrong or getting. it wrong or whatever. And I feel like. the airport is the ultimate version of. that. Yeah. Like every single. interaction is about power struggle and. like at least for me figuring out how I. can be more efficient next time and. hoping other people will follow suit and.

just like trying to practice my system. in a place where everybody has their own. system. The worst mistake I made, I took. just Axel to visit my parents and we. went to the airport and Axel just who's. the most. unique of my kids. He just ran full. speed and just slid across the airport. floor and I made the mistake of laughing. and now he does it and it's it's that. bummer of I'm so sure the next time he. does it when we're with the whole family.

Alexa will be like as you should cuz. they're filthy floors like don't do that. and he'll be like daddy liked it. Daddy. liked it. Yeah, I know. It's But that. sounds like sounds like a great move. It's a He kind of without ever seeing an. old Did he end in like That's what I. mean. Without seeing an old break. dancing video, he really ends. He ended. with his with his head in his hands. Yeah. The kid's funny kid. He's a funny. kid. He is a funny kid. Okay. Speaking of funny, you're doing.

you're performing with Oliver, John. Oliver. How do you like doing a show. with him and with somebody else? Like. you you stand up, you love it. So, well, first of all, I really uh like John as a. person. And so, we have a friendship. where we would never see each other. socially. And so, just because of our. schedules and now we get to hang out. once a month, like one Sunday a month, we like hang out and we get there for. soundcheck and then we have like an hour. uh to talk, which is great. And Brooks. Wheelen, who used to be on SNL, is our.

opener. So, the three of us have a very. uh lovely relationship. The other thing. is, especially now because I had a. special come out and so I'm doing new. material and it's lovely to know that. the audience is getting John as well. Well, I mean, I've never I never met. John. He seems lovely. I can I say. something? I feel like so few people. have both notes and the laptop. You know what? Okay, a couple things. Um, the laptop is.

a uh is a prop. Yeah, this isn't made. out of chocolate. This is edible. When. it's over. So, Bill Simmons asked me. about the laptop and he was like, "Do. you need it?" And the reason why I like. the laptop is because I feel like I can. look things up very slowly, right? And. you know, and I can find things on here. that like for example, I can use this. laptop to Seth. What are you watching, listening to? What do you where do you.

go to escape? What do you do? Do you. watch something? Do you like the world. is on fire. Everything feels intense. This podcast for me is an attempt to. just like try to connect in a fun dumb. way. What do you watch, do, see? I'm. going to answer your question and I'm. going to get on the laptop. Great. And. and for those that are listening, listen. to this. But I want to say. so you got that from an old submarine. I don't know why it's making that noise.

So wait, and that tells you where the. nearest submarine is. I'm tracking my submarine. This is I'm very excited about what's. happening right now with this podcast. Thank you. No, but I think it's the. purest form of you. Thanks. From the. perspective of people who know you. Like. I you've like you've done great like. work everywhere. But like the amount of. people who said to me like, "Oh my god, is she really like that?" Like people.

love this so much. And it's such a joy. to be like, "Yes, this this podcast is. pure polar." Thank you for saying you. Leslie Nope's the best but like you're. cooler than Leslie do and well Leslie. work Leslie is harder a harder worker. than I am and she's less because you. have complained a lot to me about how. hard it is to do a podcast already and. you're like seven episodes in so tiring. like I'm literally exhausted Leslie Nope. would never never do five a day um she's. such a good listener too I think that's.

why and so I'm very I think that this is. uh you know again that your skills as a. listener on full display and you're the. best audience. Like you've always been. such a good audience. Thanks, dude. I. feel the same way about you. I think. this is why your show is such an. incredible triumph is you are very very. good at making people feel like they're. being heard and you enjoy a good time. Those two things are not like you need. those two things in a host and I love. people being the if anything you do to. facilitate them being the best version.

of themselves is a a joy. But do you. ever feel when you're doing interviews. like do you ever check out and you like. oh [ __ ] I haven't been listening? No. I. think I take that part. So you do? Yeah. I think the worst thing. my nightmare is um Yeah. I've been there. a couple times already. Really? Where. I've been thinking I've been future. tripping in my head about what I'm going. to say next and then someone's talking. and I'm like uhoh. Yeah. I didn't listen. to what they said. Yeah. So I think I.

Yeah. Did you feel it at all? Well, there were two times where people said a. really sad thing and you said, "Haha, that's hilarious." Yeah. Like, I mean, I. said, "Lol, the Reddit the Reddit page. of this podcast is already like, "Oh my. god, she did it again." LOL. And then I. said, "Lots of love. Lots of love.". It is the save you. It's funny cuz you. both times thought you saved it and. everybody, what did you just see on your. You just My laptop is at the low. battery. It's about to run out. It's at. the lowest red line. I think obviously.

the uh it took a lot of battery to make. that sound those sound effects. That's just sucking that's sucking the. battery right out of that thing. So what. do you look at? I you know what I like. uh we we mentioned British people. pointing again. I like uh watching. British people break. Oo. Um there's. that like Jimmy Carr show. There's like. a panel show. I think it's called eight. out of 10 Cats. I've never watched a. full episode, but I keep getting served. um like short clips of like um like.

British panelists making other British. panelists laugh. I just like watching. British people break. I feel like See, you're not better than us. You are such. you're such an angoplile. Yeah, you. really are. You You love Brits. I do. So, you like people trying not to laugh. or just like those panel shows. Yeah. I. I mean in general I like you know it's. like watching an old Carol Brunette clip. but I do like corpse but I feel like. British people try really hard not to. break so when they break it I don't know.

I I it brings me more satisfaction. Okay. so I have one last question s that's it. I mean this has been just lovely has it? Well you know what though? I do want to. talk to you about your podcast because. that podcast is one of my favorites. I. love those Lonely Island men boy man. boys. Man boys man boys. They were so. important to all of us. Yeah, they I. love the like memory lane that you guys. go down. But what is so funny to me. still is the way that everybody is. themselves on that podcast. Like the way.

in which everybody shows up to it, participates in it, what they remember, how you guys interact with each other. Like what is it like doing that with. them? It's so fun because. one, I love them so much and I can't. remember the last time all four of us. talked together or even had a meal. together. Yeah. And I've been saying. like, you know, there's so much written. about like how as men get older, they. have no friendships. So, you got to. start a podcast to all lonely men. Start. a podcast. Well, I think every man has.

done that cuz every single podcast I see. is just filled with lonely men trying to. make friends. True story. During the. pandemic, you remember my friend Doug Stradley? Stradley. Straley the best. And Stradley. and I are in a fantasy football league. We did a weekly podcast just about the. fantasy football league. Wow. That the. other 10 guys would listen to. That was. what we were doing during the pandemic. And it was like and then when I started. doing professional podcasts, I had to. stop that one. And like to those 10. guys, they're like, "It's I mean, we.

totally get it. You're doing real. podcast now, but man, we missed the we. missed the Straley podcast." Do you have. a lot of old college friends? I'm very I. got a good and you know improv friends. like I feel very lucky. Well, it's not. just lux. Yeah, I put a lot of work into. cultivating. You do and and that's what. Shoemaker and I were talking about is. the kind of friend you are. You are very. very good at friendship. You I feel like. it might be the thing I'm best. You are. excellent at friendship. What why is. friendship so important to you? What. does it do for you? What has it done for.

you? I just love having. I thought I was out of the woods. For. those listening, I just want you to know. his eyes are glistening again. I just. love my friends and I've been so lucky. to have them. It's just the best. I feel. like I get so much more out of them than. I put into it. And what like what do. they do for you? Cuz some people. friendship is something that yes, everybody loves friendship, but they. don't participate it in it the way you. do. You are a very loyal, consistent, and um and and meticulous friend. You.

pay attention to your friends. They feel. very seen by you. I can speak for. myself. And you get such delight in your. friendships. Well, I think that like. seen is a really good way to put it. because I like the way. I like who I am through my the eyes of. my friends. Mhm. So it would break my. heart to, you know, not be held in high. opinion by the people I care the most. about. You like how you feel when you. can see how they see you. I whenever I'm.

like, how am I doing as a person? Like. when I take stock of who my friends are, I feel very good about who I am as a. person. And you have a lot of female. friends. I do. Great. Like a great. number. I count myself as one of them. women in your life who are your friend, who you're deeply. uh uh uh uh tender to and very like you. really like take care of us and you care. about us and you like I mean you're the. only you and Shoemaker are the only men. they're ever allowed even close to a lot.

of the SNL women we gather together as a. group and just recently we let you sit. with us for 30 minutes. Yeah. And then. we said, I think it might have been. maybe it was Tina, but Tina said, "Thank. you for coming." And also, "Thank you. for leaving." Yeah. Well, on the way. there, I said, "Seth, heads up. We're. meeting." And I think you have about a. half an hour window. And you said, "Fine, I'll take that." And then we sat. down at the steakhouse and you hung. And. then Tina said, "And now it's time to. go." Yeah. Yeah. It was um Can I point.

out my favorite observations about you. guys as a group? Yes. You needed a second table. uh for all your jackets. and every one of you had two totes. Yeah. And most of the meal again, I. think if people saw the seven women that. were there, they would be like, "Oh my. god, how funny was it?" And I would say. mostly they were looking through their. totes. At at no point Mhm. were less than two.

people looking through a tote for. something. Well, yeah, cuz we had put it. in the other tote. Comedy legends. Yeah. Rustling through totes and it was like. hand it was a lot of hand me my tote and. it was like is this my tote? Lot of. matching totes. Mhm. Yeah. I think we. had gotten some totes. Matching totes. and puffy totes is how I would describe. It was I mean it was the SNL 5th week. and it was very cold. It was also we. were all dealing with like a lot of. temperature. So our bodies, you know, we're of a certain age. We get hot and. cold really fast. So it was a lot of.

putting on coats, taking off coats. It. was a lot and a lot of like, oh my god, I'm so hot and then taking the coat off. and then handing it to you to put at the. table. Every coat was louder than the. next coat. Just when you moved the coat. Mhm. It was uh like the sail of a. schooner which is like. [Music]. very hard to hear any conversation due. to the rustling which is weird because. we were shouting at each other. We do. shout at each other across the table. very loudly. Yeah. Also Paula within.

Paula Pel within like 5 seconds had set. up a home office at a third table. She. you're right. She went she got a third. table because she had to do some. rewrites like real time rewrites on SNL. 50th. She was immediately had like a a. laptop and also like a TV monitor. Yeah. Hooked up. There's also when we all go. out, there's a ton of food panic. Yeah. When are we going to get our food? Who. ordered? What should we order? And we. all fall into very specific categories. about like how fast we should order and.

and there was a lot of talk about what. you guys were going to get. And as soon. as uh the server came over, the minute. they spoke, everybody forgot everything. that had been agreed upon. Yeah. And uh. because it went right back to square. one. Yeah. And don't forget, you know, I'm a woman of a certain age. I need. like 85 grams of protein a day. So we. were just like, how many steaks do we. need to get like 40 stakes? They put us. in a private room where you could have a. wedding. That's how big it was. Yeah. They knew what they were dealing with.

And yet within like 10 minutes, I. thought we might need a second room. The. sprawl. Well, luckily in 10 minutes, we. asked you to leave. because it was enough time. It was so. it was so much you that putting on and. taking off coat sometimes I think of an. SNL sketch just at the table that for. whatever reason stays with me forever. Do you remember Fred did a sketch once. where he was someone at a dinner party. who kept taking off and putting on his.

scarf. Yeah. Yes. The longest scarf. It. was a really long scarf and he kept. being like, "Oh my god, it's so hot.". and he would take it off and it was like. he had to like loop it around his head. and he had a practical scarf and he loop. it around his head like 10 times while. everybody waited and then he'd start. telling a story. He's like, "Oh my god, it gets so chilly." And then just. looping. I think about it all the time. Like did. he make it on air? No. And I but I can't. I think about it all the time. Mhm. Also, uh Fred I think Anilda was his Do. you remember his stenographer course. stenographer character? Oh yeah. And it. was it had a name. I think her name.

stenographer had a name. I think Anilda. Anilda, I think. I'm not sure. Okay. Typed like this. Oh, kind of a little. bit like this. It was a lot like that. But also. paused the trial a lot to look through. her bag. Mhm. And just would say over. and over, I can't find my chapstick. I. can't find my chapstick. I would say I. don't see a scarf without thinking about. the first one or hear somebody say. chapstick without thinking about the. second. The uh Fred Armison is like we. talk about him all the time on here.

like he is truly like the funniest of. the funny people. I think I'm actually. going to see Fred this weekend. Tina and. I are going to do a show. I don't know. when this will come out. Your your. people uh said they were going to review. it and see if it's if it's good enough. I got to run it by like a bunch of. lawyers and stuff. Yeah. But um I got a. cry guy. He's going to make some cuts. Cry Guy is going to make some cuts. He's like a super jacked. He's like most. He makes my protein shakes every morning. and he's like you got to stop crying on. these pods, man. How many times you cry? And you're like, "Three." And he's like,

"Three? Give me the tape." He's like, "We've been working on one, bro. You get. one cry a day, bro." And then the worst. is he's so mean. And then I just start. to tear up. Yeah. And then it's like. just awful. And then I will say he's. like, "I'm sorry. I'm sorry." He's. really sweet. He's really sweet. He's. like, "Oh my god, I'm like I'm the I'm. the root of the problem. I'm supposed to. be here to solve the problem." That's. why I've called the cry guy. Yeah. And. then he gives me a big hug and like. broke my rib. He's so jacked. squeezes. all the tears out, puts them in a cup, and drinks it. Um, so can men and women.

be friends? No. Yeah, they can't. All. right. Well, um, [Music]. [Laughter]. Seth, I love you so much. I love you, too. This has been so fun. Thank you for. doing it. Let's get our glasses on. I'm. going to take this with me cuz I know. what people can do with DNA. [ __ ] don't want to come back here. next time. You're okay. I'm like, "This is your child." You're. like, "What? What?" I just cried a. little bit. I'm like, "We get to.

pre-board at the airport now with your. child that I got from a tissue." Um, anyway, I love you so much. I love you. in LA. This was a good hang. Such a good. hang. And I I can't wait to come back. and do your stuff. Although you guys. don't really have guests, but uh Oh, yes. I thought you meant my talk show. and I'm like, "Yeah, we do. Do you want to guess uh my brother's. middle name. people? I think people are disappointed.

that was just the one. Christopher. Fine. Well, that was a great podcast with my. old buddy Seth Myers, who I love talking. about the past with and I love talking. about the present with and the future. And um you know, I just wanted to take. this minute to plug the stuff that he's. doing. Um and he and he told me if I. didn't do it, he would sue me. So um uh. Family Trips, his podcast with his.

brother Josh Dylan Meyers. Um great hilarious stories about family. trips and what ensues. And then uh the. Lonely Island and Seth Myers podcast is. a great podcast to listen to if you care. about the minutia of SNL and how it's. made and all the guests that came. through. Those guys are the best and. it's so fun listening to them and I. listen to them every week. And um check. those two things out and thank you Seth. for joining us and thank you for.

listening and never know how to end. these things. Okay, bye. You've been listening to Good Hang. The. executive producers for this show are. Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss Berman, and. me, Amy Per. The show is produced by The. Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack Wilson, Cat Spelain, Kaia McMullen, and Alia Zanerys. For. Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel. Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. really good. Hey.