Paul Rudd | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hi everyone, this is Amy Polar. Welcome. to another episode of Good Hang. We're. going to talk to the great Paul Redudd. today. I have known Paul for a million. years. And I love him, you love him, America loves him, the world loves him. We're going to talk about some cool. stuff today. We're going to talk about. how he almost lost the part in Clueless. because he had a bad haircut. Um, we're. going to talk about how dumb comedy is. our favorite kind of comedy and maybe. it's not as dumb as you think. And we're. going to get into the absurdity of. existence because that's what we do. here. where we go deep and then we get. really shallow. And we're also going to.

talk about his film Friendship with the. great Tim Robinson, which is coming out. soon. So, check it out. And we're going. to start this episode the way we always. like to, which is a fan or a friend or. someone who knows our guest so they can. tell me what they think I should ask. We. have a very special guest, another. member of the Handsome Man Club, and. that is John Ham, who has known Paul. Rudd forever, and I believe is calling. in from the set of a film right now. where he is about to get on a hot air. balloon. Woohoo! This episode is presented by the Toyota.

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seeing right now. Uh, you know, it's a. typical day in Hollywood. I'm in a. tuxedo. It's 7:00 in the morning, uh, with a hot air balloon in the. background. I just got off that hot air. balloon. So, you're telling me you got. off a hot air balloon and you got on the. phone so you could talk to us on Good. Hang and a tuxedo. Well, I assume you're. always wearing a tuxedo. I mean, it kind. of feels that way, right? How many tuxedos do you own? You know, when I moved into the house that I live. in now, I think I sold or got rid of or.

donated or something probably 15. tuxedos, and I probably still have a. double-digit amount of. tuxedos. None of them fit. Yeah. None of. them fit. I was shocked that this one. fit. This is This is one of mine. They. They said, "Do you do you have a. tuxedo?" The costume designer came over. last night. I was like, "Yeah, I got I. come on. Just come over to the house and. take a look and see whatever tuxedo you. want to have." You're like, "Let's go to. my white tuxedo closet." I did, too. So, you're wearing your own personal tuxedo?

Yes, personal tux. Well, thank you. because I would expect nothing less. How. much time do you have? Five minutes. I. have I have some time. We're turning. around. So, yeah, we have we have time. For those that don't know, turning. around is a movie term. That means. you're shooting way other way from what. you just shot. So, you have to move all. the equipment and everything and. everything has to move. That's why all. the trucks are moving and all the uh Let. me see if I can. There's a hot air. balloon. Hot air balloon. There's a hot. air balloon. Listeners, if you're.

listening, let me just describe that. Um. John Hop there's a video component to. this because beautiful. There is. There. is a video component. There's He's in a. beautiful white tuxedo and behind him is. a hot air balloon that he just got off. of. Doesn't this frame look like I'm. thinking about a hot air balloon right. now? Okay. We're talking to Paul Rudd today. Yes. Friend of many, many years. We do. this thing where we kind of talk behind. their back before we talk about them. We. talk to people that know them. Can you.

tell me where you first met Paul? I. first met Paul in St. Louis, Missouri. Paul was roommates and friends with my. high school girlfriend's older brother. So this and who then this family was. dear friends of mine too and still. remain. They were all at my wedding like. it's a whole it's a whole thing the. Clark family. Um so Paul came back with. Preston the older brother for. Thanksgiving or something one weekend.

and he looked like Michael Hutchkins. He. had like long curly. hair. He had It was It was probably. 19. 90 89 maybe. And uh he couldn't have. looked any cooler. He had a denim jacket. that he had painted or had had painted. someone painted on the back the cover of. Duran Duran's Rio. Wow. The uh Donald.

paint painting that very 80s thing. So. he was operating at a much higher level. than any anybody we had really ever run. into at that point in our lives. Was he. older than you at that Yeah, he's two. years older than me. So he was he was a. a freshman in college when I was a. junior in high school. And yeah, that's. when I first met Paul and it was like he. was funny and and cool and interesting. and and. and you know, a college kid. And did you. become friends instantly? Like you. really connected fast? We we definitely.

connected. I would say that you know. Paul that was at when they when Paul and. Preston were going to KU Kansas. University and then when I ended up. going to the University of. Missouri, I went to visit Paul who had. by this point gone transferred out of KU. and and moved to LA and was going to the. Academy of Dramatic Arts. and he lived. in in North Hollywood with Preston and. our friend Bo and I came out for spring. break to hang out with them. That's when.

I really became friends with them cuz we. were hanging out in in uh in LA. Thanks. In LA uh really just making a scene in. 1991 92. So we would go down to like the. third street proon. just in jean jackets and like a bunch of. cool guys. Yeah, it was there was a. place called Yankee Doodles that was. like a bar that had uh pool tables. That. was where we went. And you were all like.

auditioning at that point. I was still. in college. They Paul had just booked a. big Nintendo ad. So, he was just riding. high. And then by the next time I came. out, when I came out, when I moved out. here after college in '95, he had done. Clueless and he was on the way to go do. Romeo and Juliet and he was on the way. to the to the stars. So, it was crazy. That's that's uh I watched it all. happen, you know. He was he was he was. he was the first one of us that really.

got famous. Was very very cool. That. what was that like to have a like I I. know I remember my first friend who was. famous. Like when I moved to New York, Janine Gaf was my first famous friend. and it was a trip. What was it like? They're operating again. They're just. operating in different circles and. you're like, "Oh, right. Those are the. people that I read about. because he. read about them back then. It was like. Premier magazine had, you know, a. feature on Paul or Entertainment Weekly. or something. He was like a big brother.

Big brother for sure. For sure. Even. though he stands about a foot shorter. than me, let's be honest. Nobody's taller than you, Ham. Look at. you. You literally look like you own. this town. John is now walking through. the fake town in his tuxedo getting. ready to get back on the hot air. balloon. Yes. Yes. Here. Wow. You look like a billionaire who's just. having like a day out. This is literally. if I was a billionaire, I would take my. hot air balloon to work. Okay. So, what.

question do you think I should ask Paul? We're we're asking people what I should. ask him. You know, I was because I. listened to your guys thing with the one. you guys did with Tina, which I thought. was so good. And you guys had such a. great rapport. I texted you guys. Um. John's getting in the hot air balloon. right now. And we um I loved I loved uh you and. Seth and Drachie and everybody coming at. it. I think the question I think you. should ask Paul is at what point or and.

I was asking this to Billy Crudup on the. set the other day. what. point or has it happened yet in his in. his career or in his life? gone to my taking has he lost the let me. know when freaking out. about being good all the time from an. acting standpoint you know what I mean I. don't have that I don't have that stress. anymore yes I love I love what I do and. I love doing it and I know if I don't do. a great job I'll do it again and it'll.

be good on the second take or. whatever this is so exciting. Guys, listeners, John is about He's. rolling, I think. Are you rolling? Going. up. Yeah, we're about to roll. So, that's that's what I would ask him. Okay. When did he stop freaking out. about doing a good job? Like, is he. settled in? Maybe he Maybe he still. hasn't. Maybe he still hasn't. And I. want to know, when did that nickel drop? When you come on, I want to ask you that.

question. Can you keep your phone on. while you go up in the balloon? I can't. because I'm on camera. Damn it. Oh, I. hate Hollywood. I hate acting. So dumb. Okay, I love you so much. Thank you so. much for this. Love you, Polar. Can't. wait to see you, buddy. All right, buddy. Okay, talk to you soon. Bye. I don't even know where to start. Paul. Rudd is here. So exciting. Rudd, you um. and I have known each other a very long. time. I would say over 25 years now, maybe. Right. Oh, yeah. Yeah. Do you.

remember the first time we met? I I was. it maybe at. um I don't Is this a test? It is a test. Not only is it not a test, but I can't. remember anything. Good. Good. Perfect. We're right there. Terrible. I want to. say was it maybe. it might have been at a UCB show early. on or there was another time I think I. was at 10th Street Lounge. with Janine GOP maybe. My first famous.

friend. Yeah, it was around that. I was. because I we kind of both moved to New. York somewhat around the same time. When. did you move? like 95. So yeah, 95. Right. From Kansas, he moved. No, I was. in California, right? I've gone to an. acting school for a couple years. What's. What kind of school? The American. Academy of Dramatic Arts. An act. It. sounds like What do they call it? What's. the shortened version of Ada or ADA? Atta. I don't know. There's Ada, Lambda, Rada. Okay. I went to Ba, too. I went.

and Yeah. I couldn't get into Katada. That was the next one. And what did you. do there? Did you do like constant. plays? So much theater. Amy, so much. talking about a lot of Let's have our. tea about before I talk about Let's just. enjoy a sip. You know the thing about. theater is the thing is you know Pinter. said once you know I. remember GDO. oh I remember we were doing uh Maufi.

when at the Roundwarf uh Bobby and I and. we were in between uh show Guom we were. in between matinea and evening. performance and uh when I was uh. understudying for Danny uh and the deep. blue sea uh I I remember thinking if we. could have done crimes this way of the. heart. Yes. Yes. No, absolutely. It's. funny you should say that because when. uh Renee Abberin and I were doing. mattress once upon a uh we had the exact.

same conversation about you know. mattress I once upon a mattress pity. she's a [ __ ] I was in Once Upon by. just buried Tis Pity she's a [ __ ] Um. which is a real play. What was your high. school musical or play? High School. Musical South Pacific and you played uh. Buzz Buzz was just created is Buzz I. think is in the show. He's a pilot. I. think he maybe had a couple of lines but. I loved dramatic films and and and.

dramatic actors and I thought, "Oh, this. is what this is what you're supposed to. do." And so um then I got to college and. it was like oh I'm studying Shakespeare. which I'd never done before and found. that I really liked it. Yeah. And what. were you doing to make a living during. that time? What was your jobs? So many. jobs. Yeah, I was going to school. I was. a I would DJ and MC bar mitzvah and bot. mitzvah. That's right. I did for that. I. did that for a while. Uh because it was. I could work on weekends, right? What. was your go what was the party pumping.

song? What was the song that would get. people on the floor? Um Um Well, CNC. Music Factory. Yeah. Oh, sure. I mean, big. That was big. Yeah. There was also. the just the real fun of uh just a. straight up moan mooney that Billy Idol. would do. Uh because. uh come on that part. Yeah. Here she comes now. Say hey. Hey now get laid get [ __ ].

And that was like that was I forgot. about that. Get laid get [ __ ] And you. would always find like. 13-year-olds going, they were like, "Finally, are you going to say this?". And and then I'd look around and see. kind of like the grandparents like. Um, so then you go to school, you come. to New York. I went to this acting. school in California, Ada, which is. where I met Adam, by the way. That's how.

we became friends. Tell us how you met. Adam. Your cute So it was I was probably. Adam Scott. Adam Scott. I was probably. 21 and Adam was maybe 17 or 18 years. old. Maybe I was 22 and he was 18. Um. and there was like a party. The school. is only like two couple years. It wasn't. big, but um this I do remember the first. time I met Adam and it was uh somebody. was having a party and um we hit it off. right away. We talked and uh I want to.

say we talked. about and uh and then and we. became we became pretty tight pretty. good friends not that long after that. He was he went there after I did um and. then we did a and then we did a play. together. I because I graduated from. that school and I stayed in California. for a few years and then tried to get a. play going that one of the teachers. woman named Diana Stevenson at that. school. She had said, "Let's do this. play about Byron and Shelly called.

Bloody Poetry." And uh so it was a small. little cast and Adam and I did it. together. You did? Do you have any. recording of that or anything? It's just. I have I have a recording of the play. Yeah. And it's the two of you playing. Byron and Shelly. Uh he played Polydori. He played Buzz. He played Buzz. He was. the Buzz in Yeah. in Bloody Poetry. Did. you audition for any John Hughes stuff? No, that was a for my time. Yeah, I. loved it. But I did too. But I.

auditioned for a different things and I. didn't really get them. And then and. then um the I did audition for Clueless, which was like the John Hughes things. And I went in, I didn't really get it. I. was reading that script. I'm like, um. Oh, this. is like uh like a bunch of kids, huh? This reminds me a little bit of those. movies I used to I grew up watching. Mhm. And then um and then I got this. audition to go in and I I remember there. were other characters that I'm like, "Oh, that's a that's a cool character.".

I hadn't seen the character like. Christian before like this. I liked it. There was a gay character that was not. being made fun of, but it's like kind of. the coolest character. The bar was so. low then. It was like, "Hey, he's gay. and and nice." Yeah. And it was just. like, "Oh, wow. This is like I haven't. seen this movie really before." Um, and. anyway, so I went in and I asked to. audition for all the different parts and. then they said, "Well, what about re. read for the part that I wound up. playing, which is Josh character?" And. so I did I didn't really hear anything.

afterward. And I remember I really I had. long hair and then a couple weeks later. I wasn't even thinking about it. We I I. just went to a I was walking past a. barber shop and I just went in. I said, "Just buzz my head." I mean, the hair. was down about there. Wow. and they went. and they just went with the clippers, everything. I was just like, I just want. to cut it all off. And then a week. later, I went into a restaurant and Amy. Heckerling, who directed the movie, was eating there and she looked at me.

and her she was like, "Wait a minute.". She she froze and she goes, "What did. you do? What What did you do to your. hair?" I was like, "I just like shaved. back." She was like, "It's getting too. long." She goes, "You were in you. audition for this. part. We were gonna we were gonna maybe. gonna get this part, but you can't cut. your I was like and I was so I'm like. well if it's meant to be it's meant to. like I wasn't I was so stupidly kind of. cavalier about it. But then I had to do.

a screen test for Glue and they put me. in a wig to try and match what my what. my hair is. There is nothing that feels. more manly than a than when you're. trying to get when you're trying to get. chemistry her wig and to get be like, "Sweetheart, don't pull my hair too. much." Eventually, like enough time had. gone by that anyway, they're like, "Yeah, this is not going to work. Just. grow your hair out." And so they they. skipped the wig and and by the time it. got to filming, my hair had grown enough.

that uh it it worked. Okay. That's an. amazing story because what it says to me. too though and I find this about you as. a person is like you do not have a. grasping energy when it comes to work. Like. you care about it very much. It's really. important to you. You choose things. wisely. You work really hard when you're. there. But I don't get a sense from you. that you are I don't know. There's a way. the there's a vibe with you and work.

that feels like a healthy attachment. It. doesn't feel like. you're what the kids would say very. thirsty and therefore I think it people. really lean into that and like that. Would you think that would you say. that's true? I to in some regard yeah I. don't think like I don't feel uh. competitive with other actors. I'm a. real big fan of a lot of other actors. I. get really. excited by people who I like are.

talented. Yeah. And um I I don't think. this should be torturous. I know this is. something you and I both really share, which is um it this should be fun. It's. a really fun job. Um you respond to. comedy in the same way I do and that. it should be a fun experience. I like. have you had the experience where you're. working on something and it's like might.

be funny and people say, "Oh, if you. find it funny, it's not going to be. funny and you it's supposed to be. torturous otherwise it it won't work. If. it looks like you're having if you think. it's a blast, it's not going to. translate." And I think I I couldn't a. disagree with that more. Agree. What do. you do when you're in a on a project and. you are and you some someone's either. miss like what's your conflict style? Because like do you get quiet when. you're mad? Do you yell? I certainly.

have yelled. My god. Um I uh stop. Okay, you yelled. And don't you dare say anything like. that to me. Okay. Ever again. Okay. Ever. Okay. Are we done with. this? So, I my conflict style is. probably different depending on who I. have a conflict with. Yeah. And.

um more often than not. Uh I'll check. out. That's what I was going to say. I was. going to say go to sleep maybe. I'll. just be like uh like I'm so tired. This. is going to be over soon. Mhm. If I just. get in this bed and just go to sleep. I'm just gonna I mean I'm just gonna try. and I gotta ride this out. I can't go. anywhere. I got to do this. Get in one. of those pods and just deep freeze. myself till this gets fixed. That's. exactly right. Deprivation sensory. deprivation tank. Okay. I do want to ask. you about our working together because.

we did it quite a bit. We've worked. together quite a bit. We've been so. lucky to work together on so many things. and we worked on the most one of the. most fun movies, Wet Hot American. Summer. And I think it was fun for a. million reasons. It was fun because we. were all in our 30s and we were at a. summer camp. It was fun because a lot of. us were, myself included, were like in. the beginnings of things. Yeah. We were. all kind of starting off. We were and we. had great leaders in Michael Schoalter. and David Wayne who were kind of like.

goofing around and and setting the tone, but also serious writers and filmmakers. We also met a bunch of lifelong friends. on that movie and it felt very, you. know, pre 911. Frankly, it was like. before the those times. It just felt. like of another era. Yeah. And um it's. like pre like I don't even remember. having cell phones. There were no cell. phones. There was a remember there was a. pay phone. Yes. And everybody would call. Yes. up front. Yeah. Yeah. To their.

That's right. You know, significant. others and be like, "Yeah, I guess I'm. up here for another three weeks. I know. They changed the schedule. Yeah. Yeah. Do you remember we had to leave. for a week in the middle of shooting? Cuz there was an actual camp. No, because somebody rented it out for a bar. mitzvah and we all left for a week and. then had to come back. That's right. I. forgot about that. Now, it's kind of. legendary. People know that it rained. the whole time. 25 of the 28 days or. whatever the shoot was and we had to.

pretend it was sunny. Yeah. And it was. freezing cold. Freezing. What do you. remember about staying warm or the. weather when we were shooting Wet Hot? Uh, I remember in those brief moments. when it was sunny, we all were like, "Oh. my god, it was inc like what can we. film? What can we do? What can Yeah. But. um, you know, I remember the opening. scene that we did when we were all. around the campfire when like when they.

playing Jane. Yeah. That it had been. pouring and it was like we're sitting. like soaking wet everywhere and. freezing. It was all freezing. It was. freezing all the time. I remember the I. remember the kind of the clothes we were. wearing at the time. I remember being. really grateful and this isn't the first. time that I'm grateful that like I. didn't have to wear, you know, like Liz. Banks was kind of playing like the the. girl who was a little bit more free, let's put it that way. And she had to.

wear like bikini tops and stuff. And I. remember many times in my life, I had. this feeling where I'd be like, I'm so. happy that I get to wear like a members. only jacket. I'm so cold. Whereas now, I. run very hot. But back then, I was so. cold. I mean, and and I remember being. really grateful that she I remember her. having to dance and it being really. cold. Yeah. Um Yeah. And I remember. going to Salvation Army. Do you remember. that? We would all head out to Salvation.

Army. Yep. Because the thing that people. didn't know is we worked very little. Yeah. There really and and whoever. wasn't filming had because we were there. was a 30 minute drive to Target in the. main I don't even think it was Target. I. think it was just Walmart. It was. Walmart. Yeah. Yeah. It might have been. pre-arget. And um whoever wasn't filming. had to go buy the beer. Yes. For the. night. And we were all wearing like kind. of, you know, Wellingtons and and uh and. then we would all just hang out and uh.

drink beer and drink Craig play guitar. They have guitars and uh play music. really loud, really late. Um do you. remember David Hyde Pierce? Yes. Coming. out to tell us to can you be a little. quieter? Yeah. It was his first he. showed up. No one. We were all like dumb kids just. wanted to have a blast. Reminder, we. were not kids. We were in our 30s. Or.

you were late 20s. I think I was 30. Yeah, your late 20s. I was 30. And then. um and David Hyper showed up. He was. coming in later, but he was also the. except for Janine, the only one that. anyone would really know. Totally. He. was famous and we were all like, "What. is this guy gonna think?" And we our we. all slept in those kinds of like in the. infirmary. Everyone had these little. kind of their own little rooms and cotss. or whatever it is. And then the main. infirmary where we would hang out as a.

group every night till like 1:00 2 in. the morning playing music really loud. Um was the main part and uh and I. remember it was his first night. None of. us knew him and it was like 1:00 in the. morning and it's so loud. He's filming. the next morning and he's been in his. room and he probably is rehearsing. He's. going. He's a professional. He's a. professional. And I remember he came out. and then stopped in the doorway and we. all it was like the needle on the record. stop. Everyone got quiet and we all.

looked and Ken Marino just goes, "Oh. great, it's. Frasier." Do you remember that? Yes. and and and David Hyde Pierce is like, "What are you guys doing?" Like he was. he was so fun. So fun and cool and and. and it was just like, "Oh, thank God.". Yeah. He was the nicest, most loveliest. guy. He was the best. But he definitely.

was like, "What's happening here?" Yeah. What's going on? And we were like, we. Oh, none of us are working. None of us. We don't have anything to shoot. tomorrow. Nope. We're here. There's no. telephones. And then whoever w did have. to shoot, we'd all just go watch their. scenes. Just go watch it. We just go. watch it. It was like It was being at. camp. Yeah, it was. It really was. I'm. having a Ken Marino memory. He was. watching the He was He was watching er. on a little like there used to be these. TVs you could hang around your neck. Do. you remember these? Like it was almost.

like a portable TV, but it it almost. looked like a monitor like what like. Flavor Flave would wear. like a big. giant clock but it's a TV and you the. strap around your neck. That is my. memory and again I don't remember things. well but he was watching on a small TV. and he came running through the hallway. saying she went back to Clooney. It was. a big moment where um do you remember. this where um Julian. Margar Nurse Hathaway, Carol Hathaway. went back to Clooney like you know met.

him on at his boat. Spoiler alert, met. him at his boat in Seattle and the uh he. came running with like tears streaming. down his face saying she went back to. Clooney and we were all like. like I mean we really did live together. for many weeks. It probably was only. like three weeks. I think it might have. been more like five or six. I mean, it's. ridiculous for I mean, with the week. that we had off for the bar mitzvah. included,

I think that's Yeah. Yeah. And that was. Bradley Cooper's first movie. Mhm. I. think was it Banks? Might have been. Banks maybe. Yeah. And that was just so. There were so many great people. But I. don't remember like filming scenes and. everyone's like kind of watching and you. were the one that I would go to and I'm. like, "Was that funny? How was that kind. of what what you know I really valued. your opinion on everything and I would. go uh I'd say go back out there do it. again do it again I'd say I didn't feel. it ask for another one I'd say yeah Paul. you want to ask for ask you ask for ask.

for another one now Paul you want to ask. okay then we made a movie called they. came together such a fun movie people. that haven't seen it which is probably a. lot of people because it was kind of a. small movie yeah it was like a fake. romcom. and it was taking all the tropes uh a. David Wayne special taking all the. tropes of like what is funny about those. movies and I would say we we just. screened it again in we just had like an. anniversary was so fun and watching it.

again it was like you are perfectly cast. I would probably not cast I would not be. cast in a romcom in that part I would be. the friend in the romcom I don't think I. would be able to pull off the romcom. I. don't have the symmetry for it. But what. is so I disagree, but go ahead. Okay, thank you. But um little slow on that, but Well, I didn't want to interrupt. you. Okay, thanks. But um but what is so.

fun about it is it is so stupid and this. most stupid stupidest movie ever. And. don't forget in the middle of that. movie, there's a it stops to have a. music video. Yeah. With Norah Jones. Yeah. Who sang the song from that movie. that Adam Scott and John Stamos show up. and do cameos in. Cuz they come to the. studio. Yeah. The video for the video. the video for the song that's the song.

the the on the soundtrack of the movie. is in the middle is in the middle of the. movie. Paul Red and Amy Polar, the actors show. up to be like, "What's happening here?". And we're wearing sunglasses. Yeah. And. a soul patch. You had a soul patch. And. a soul patch. And but it's like Yeah. Us. and our street clothes. In our street. clothes. And then our buddies also come. to like play with some of the buttons. Yeah. They're in this mix not mixing. boards and we're just like hanging out, goofing around with Norah Jones,

professional, incredible musician. Yeah. And then after the video ends, it just. goes right back to the movie. Yeah. This. How did this movie get made? So stupid. It's so dumb. It's so fun to watch. again. It is so dumb. I mean, and I know. we share that like that feeling of dumb. It's so like I can't It's hard to. explain that feeling of I mean, well, I. guess everyone understands it. That. feeling that you have with your friends. when something is so stupid. and so funny. Oh, I think it is truly.

like. the opposite of your own mortality. Like. it feels like you'll live forever when. you're laughing at dumb. Does that make. sense? It makes total sense. It's the. greatest. It's And that endorphin. Yes. Everything. It just kicks in and you're. like, "Oh, oh, this. entire life is absurd." Yes. All of. this. That's right. Everything. The. absurdity of. existence. Yeah. What are you listening.

to, watching? What do you What makes you. laugh right now? All kinds of different. things. I suppose um. when people talk of like comedy specials. and stuff, I always say, "Oh, have you. seen Patrice O'Neal Elephant in the. room?" That's one of my favorites. It's. so funny. It's like the fact that. Patrice O'Neal that we lost Patrice. O'Neal when we did where I feel like he. was on the verge of just being the guy. um is just heartbreaking. Um I think he.

was just so funny. Feel that way about. Bernie Mack, too. Yeah. Really, really, really funny. Gone too soon. And um. that's one of my favorite what I I I one. of the things I just kind of I always. seem to watch. I mean, I like little. memes and things that get passed around, like the guy jumping into the pool that. it's frozen over and he doesn't know it. He just like wipes out. That kind of. stuff is people falling. Forget it. I. love it. Um, but I uh I love uh I always. go back to um news bloopers. Oh god,

let's just watch Hold on. Let's just. watch a few. Great. Do you have any that. you remember that like I can Google? Well, you know, there are these there's. just something so beautiful and great. about people that they they're it's the. news. It's serious. And when something. goes wrong, you know, the gay blind one, that one is incredible. That is that is. that is the most simp that is the I've. watched that so many times. It's what 4. seconds.

Okay. The blind. It is mountain climber. Right after the break, we're going to. interview Eric Wyan, Mayor who climbed. the highest mountain in the world, Mount. Everest, but he's gay. I mean, he's gay. Excuse me. He's blind. So, we'll hear. about that coming up. Okay. As we head. to the break, a little Okay. And as we. head to the break, like and and you. know, Wait a minute. Cuz you you know, in her in her like, oh boy, I just. messed up. And he is like, I'm just.

gonna pretend that didn't happen. Okay. Okay. So, all right. Oh my god. I'm. sorry. Okay. I'm sorry. Uh, blind. He's. blind. So, I I love bloopers. Bloopers. I feel like we grew up with. bloopers. Nothing. When I see people. really laughing and really like there's. in those news bloopers, there's one. There's one. It's these two guys. They're speaking a language I don't. understand. It's like I don't know what.

By the way, some of the ones in that. like news in other countries are Oh, I. don't even think to look for that. I'm. gonna I'll go in I'm gonna go like best. news bloopers of 2023 or 22. I've seen. them all. Like global news bloopers. That's what I'm finding right now. I. will watch those over and over again. But there's like one where these two. guys and somebody says something and I. don't know what he's saying, but the. other guy says it and he starts laughing. and they both start laughing and they. are crying and they're on the ground. crying and I don't know what the hell.

they're talking about and I'm tears. because there's there's God I do love. God, I love that. You know, why do we. love I mean I mean because there's. something it's the opposite of. pretention. It's pure joy. Mh. It's uh there's it's. defenseless there. It like it's it's the. purest. uh it's celebratory. My wife has said. before and this is such a good idea. She. goes they should have like in hospitals.

when people are getting um going for. like chemotherapy or whatever and. they're sitting in the chair for hours, they should have on screens all around. just bloopers of from people laughing. And that is a great idea. Great idea. Great idea. And and and I agree like if. I see people laughing really really. hard, I'm I'm done. I love it so much. I love. it so much. Me, too. Um speaking of. laughing really hard and speaking, I.

think of a show that did help a lot of. people during Hard Times. You were on. Parks and Wreck. You only did five. episodes. Do you know that? I know. Um. but you played a character that stood. the test of time. I. mean I mean if only if only we had Bobby. Newport. Just a a guy who wants to be. liked. Yeah. And who I know. If only. Right. I mean Bobby at the time means. well just doesn't quite grasp any of it. He wants to go to the afterparty. Yeah. Bobby Newport played by you was the like.

the rich son of the um Swedom's family. the the family the Newports that owned. the big factory in the fictional town of. Panee that parks and wreck took place. and Bobby Newport ran against Leslie and. it was like what Bobby had that Leslie. could never get was. that g whiz like I can't believe I fell. into this like I just want to have a. good time you guys. Yeah. I think that's. even a line that that's how Bobby feels.

about abortion isn't it? Oh yeah right. What did he say about abortion? I guess. my thoughts on abortion are just like. want everybody to just have have a good. time. I just want everybody to have a. good time. I mean, come on, guys. What? And Bobby kept getting flustered by. Leslie wanting it cuz he wants it. Like, there's that great scene where he's. like, "Can you just drop out of the race. cuz I want it?" Yeah. Yeah. Cuz I want. it. I want it. Come on. Please, you. could do it. Just do it. Come on.

And people are like, I don't I love the. guy. He's great and he doesn't seem to. want it. Yeah. And he doesn't know. anything, but that neither do I. That's, you know, you're Leslie Nope is capable. and great for that job. Bobby Newport is. not. No. And Bobby was I think was. thinking like maybe I'll just get it and. then Leslie, you can do it. Yeah. How. about that? That's a good compromise. What do What are your memories of doing. that character? Was such a funny. character. You were so great. Thank you, Amy. My memories of that were I can't.

believe I get to work with my favorite. people in the world. You and Adam and. Catherine and Rashida and like it was. like this is the dream. I mean this is. the you know I remember when you were. talking to Tina on the very first. episode you did where you were saying. you feel like the how the great thing. that can happen if you are able to. sustain enough of a career that you you. can get to a point where you work with.

your friends or you get to work with. people you really like because it's not. work it's just it's it's just the best. and I mean it was such a fun character. obviously and the show is so great and. you're so great in it. Um, it was it was. it was just it was a dream. It was a. dream and you know and I was uh I loved. it. I loved every second of it. I loved. hanging out with all you guys and so.

fun. It was really fun. It was and that. and it was those scenes were so funny. Like he got you got to do the stupidest. talk about fun stupid the stupidest. stuff. Yeah. Well, there's nothing. um there's nothing funnier to me than. unearned confidence. Yeah. Like just. somebody feels like they you know it's. like I've got it figured out and it's. like no you don't. Yeah. Um but but if. it's and if. it's if it's like nice unear like if.

it's f it's really funny if it's not. nice unearned confidence. But, uh, that. was the thing of like he had a lot of. kind of unearned confidence, but he had. he was just dumb. Yeah. He wanted to. have a good time. Sweet though, but he's. a nice he he was sweet. He was sweet. And that and and that was and that was a. fun that was kind of that's a fun thing. to get to play. That's a fun kind of. character to get to play. Would you. would we describe him as like guyless? Is that the word? Yeah, I think that's a.

good way to do it. Yeah, there's Yeah, I. know that word. Yeah, just a really. good, by the way. Of course you do. [ __ ] great word. Is a [ __ ] great. word. [ __ ] great word. Um, you know, um, it also was really cool to watch you. and Adam in a in scenes together because. you have you been in a lot of stuff. together? Not a ton of stuff. It's. weird. He's like my kind of like my. closest oldest friend and uh, and we. have but we haven't done a ton of stuff. together. Like would you ever do a movie. together? I'd love it. Should. He's such.

a good actor. He is. He's a really I. mean clearly everyone's. obviously recognizing this to him in. real time when he was acting. I'd be. like, "You're acting so good." And he'd. be like, "Shut up. We're in the middle. of the scene." But I'd be like, "You're. acting so good." Well, he's like he's. one of, you know, he's so good. And he. really can play very complex emotional. scenes. Yeah. Um and you really kind of. know what that character is thinking.

And then but then he also has a way of. being able to kind of remove this have. this kind of emotionless. uh removal of what he whatever he's. doing. That's really interesting which. plays into severance I think very well. You and you can do that too. To be a. movie star you have to be able to make. your face still. You have to be able to. just like get the machine on like. neutral like for everyone to project. And it's he's very good. It's like a. Greek mask kind of thing. And so Adam is. great at that. And the one thing that I. always thought with Anna when I like.

when I met him is he's the funniest he's. got the driest kind of most irreverent. um sense of humor. I mean it was that's. how we became friends because of just he. liked a lot of the same kind of jokes. and things like that. But I I just. watched the severance finale and I. texted him. I was like you are so good. at acting. And then he was like oh. thanks I'm glad you watch it. And I was. like there was so much running. Like I haven't seen it yet. I've seen. the I haven't seen I've been away. No.

So, uh you it hasn't been spoiled. No, I'm staying away from everything. I. don't look at my phone. I don't do you. know that's why you can't be on TikTok. If you're on TikTok, you you got about. an hour. Yeah. And then it's then. there's like there's audios made. of and I I know I know. Um so yeah, I've. I've been able to avoid all that. And. I've told him I've like I haven't I. haven't reached out to you yet because. you're seen I haven't seen it yet. Um um. and you're just edging. You're not gonna. you're not gonna watch the finale.

because you're like, by the way, I'm not. gonna really watch season two. Uh you're. like, well, we'll see. I'll tell him he. was great in it. Anyway, uh but he he is. he really is terrific and you know that. better than anybody. Well, this is a. perfect segue to male friendship. Okay. Because you have So, let's chug Hold on. Let's chug her teeth. Check it. I mean,

this was that is such a good I'm out. Let's get some Let's get six more teas. I got to cover this. So, you're So, for. a sponsorship, no one knows what I'm. drinking. You can't see any labels. You. can't. No. The inside of my mug is. filled with labels. I lose that cap in. case someone figures out. And then, by. the way, this is some I should say this. is my Oh my god, Paul's peeing under the. desk. Look, this is a long podcast and I. don't want to walk away and interrupt. the flow. so to speak. Have you ever done that like on a trip? Pet peed in a bottle? Never. I have.

Really? That's great to hear because you. know you are I mean you're there's not a. lot of straight men like they you're the. first Well, I guess I I guess there's a. few but you are a straight white male. I mean so I feel seen. So how's that. going for you? cuz it's, you know, it's. not easy up there. I mean, by the way, straight white male in his 50s. I mean, now's our time,

but you guys get to pee in bottles. Yeah, that's the road. That is true. It. is one of the good things. You do. You. get to pee. You get to do a lot of like, you know. Yeah. Pee in like straight. white men get to pee in bottles or like. and up until just five minutes ago that. was okay. Now, people are like, "Maybe. don't throw your pea bottles out on the. street." And and straight white males. are like, "Fine, whatever. Whatever. Howard Hughes did it.".

Um, but straight, you have a movie about. two men and the friendship between them. with the great Tim Robinson and it's. called Friendship. Yeah. And it is I got. to watch it. You did? Yes. I watched a. screener. I'm trying to do my homework. as a podcast person. God, you're good. And um it's so tiring. Oh, movies are so. long. They're like 2 hours. Yeah. By the. way, everything's long and having to do. it's even if it's like something you're. interested in with pe people, you know, or like it's all work. Yeah. But I did.

really want to watch the movie, I have. to say, because I love you. I love Tim. I loved Tim is is Andy D. Young is. awesome. Isn't he great? He's great and. the director and writer and um. uh it is a movie it is such a good movie. about the loneliness epidemic of men and. the attempt at making a friend and then. like what goes wrong right like how I. mean it's about missing I mean it's Tim.

Tim at his timist which is like he's. missing the clues and he's getting them. wrong I know and you play this really. really. funny. Like he's kind of. a tenderhearted nerd. He's not as cool. as you think he is as you learn to be. No, not at not at all. Okay. Friendship. though, you've done a couple movies. about that. Yeah. One thing that I feel. like.

um I've always had like I've. I've been good at in my life is picking. friends. Um, it's the one thing that. even like when I was in grade school and. I didn't I was not like the oh I'm. friends with everybody like I was not. that kid at all but. um I I could I think I had a I could. recognize like nice people. And so my. whole life, my all my friends were they.

were kind of funny and nerdy in all the. ways you want your friends to be nerdy. and uh and decent and um and. so I just want to like, you know, it's. like you want to hold on to people you. care about. And and and the other thing. too is, you know, you and I were talking. about this. It's I I think in a way we. we live weird lives because they're. public lives and it can be a little.

overwhelming and you know and with the. noise of the world and the noise of this. job and everything else is you kind of. want your world to be smaller. I each. year that goes by I just kind of want it. smaller and I want the important stuff. to count. And to me, the most important. stuff that I've learned, probably. because I'm now 55 years old, is that um. oh, the the pinnacle, the height of it. is just being with the people that I.

love and and really laughing with like a. bunch of uh friends. It's the greatest. It's the best thing there is. And so. that is uh I I just always try and. cultivate that. Well, we tried to. cultivate it by um talking to your. friend John Ham today. Oh, so we have. another long time friend. I know. I've. known John longer than I've known Adam. And and it sounds like you were a big. brother to both. Like you were old. you're a couple years older than both, right? So we do this thing where we talk.

we kind of talk well behind somebody's. back um and try to figure out um stuff. that they think I should ask you. So, we. talked to Ham before you came in today. and John Ham from um from uh Mad Men and. for those five people that don't know. who I'm talking about. And um let me. just explain what he was doing when we. spoke to him. He was wearing a white. tuxedo of his own. Yeah. He was on the set of a movie, which I think you might also have a part.

in at some point or maybe we'll see. Yep. He was working on a film uh and he. was getting off of a hot air balloon. that he had just been on and he spoke to. us in the 10 minutes before he had to go. do another take and so he spoke to us as. he got on the hot air balloon about you. Oh my god. That's incredible. Incredible. And he was really sweetly. talking about the first time you met. long hair. You had your long hair. You.

had your jean jacket and you remember. what was painted on it? Yeah. Uh that I. had painted on the back of it. A Patrick. Nagel. Uh yeah. You had painted it. I. painted it. Okay. I'm like, I need this. I want to get a good acid wash jean. jacket, but it needs a Patrick Nagel. print on the back and I'm just going to. have to paint it myself. Mhm. Yeah. Beautiful. He remembers that. He was. like he was the coolest guy. ever. and um he was talking about how. you guys met and it it was very sweet.

because it made me think about both Adam. and John and you have known each other a. really long time. I've known John since. he. was I want to say maybe about 16 years. old. What was a 16-year-old little ham? Although was he ever short, but no, he. was all uh he might have been 17. 16. around there. Um he was uh Well, talk. about the coolest guy in the room. It. was not me. Yeah, I recognized that in. him right away. He was really handsome. He was smart. He was um athletic. He was.

all of these things. And I know all of. this cuz he was friends with the girl. that I liked. Uh that he was and that. was how I was he with the girl? Yeah. They were they used to go out and then. they and then they were Yeah. But they. knew each other for years and years way. before me. And um but I was always a. little bit like uh okay this guy, yeah, oh, how do I compete with that. guy? And you're like, I'm going to grow. my hair. Yeah. And I'm going to get her. away from that. Yeah. Yeah. I'm going to.

grow my hair like she's going to look at. my hair and go, "Wait a minute. Do you. know Michael Hutchkins?". It's funny that you say that cuz Ham. described you as M like Michael. Hutchkins. Michael Hudgens. Well, that's. that's high praise. you were I but I. like what you're doing. You're like I'm. going to go the other way. I'm going to. go I'm going to be the art art guy. Well, I was, you know, I was certainly. drawn to that and I I think that was. probably because I didn't have the. ability to beat the other guy because. Ham was the sports guy. Ham was like Ham.

was sports and he was just you know I. remember we were we I have such a vivid. memory of all of us playing Trivial. Pursuit and uh I'm just meeting John. The girl that he was friends with that I. was dating at the time. We're all. playing she we're playing in teams and. he would roll and immediately go like oh. sweet I'm going to go to history. I'll. go to yellow. Oh yeah that's a power. move. And then it's like, it's not arts,

not pink. Not pink. I'm going to. entertainment every time. Of course. And. he's like, Dallas, this guy is going to. yellow. Yeah. And then all of a sudden. it's like he gets a question. What's the. biggest lake in Africa? And he's like, "Victoria." That's a pie. That's a pie. piece. And I'm sitting there going, then. he goes over to green like a real. [ __ ]. Science and nature. Are you Are you. going to be that guy? And so, uh, I was. so kind of, here's what I do remember. afterward after that game. I'm like, I.

should probably like read read some, um, atlases. And I read an atlas to know. about the world, to know where countries. are. Yeah. Because because this younger. guy Yeah. who is clearly superior and. was I probably did he was he were. dating. Yeah. But they were friends, so. I was a little threatened. Wow. That's. so and and I want to get this girl on. Well, we eventually became like, you. know, obviously.

uh after a while, and it's a longer. story, but we did become really really. tight. Yeah. And really good friends. Yeah. Um and uh and it's great. We've. been really great friends since. I know. you all are. One of the things that. really makes me laugh like what makes me. laugh and it is and I have told this. story and I have nothing to do with this. story but it's when you got the news. about your doctor I know and he was. hosting SNL. the best it's it's so smart and do you.

will you tell it yes I I mean I I think. he has also told it a lot too so I you. know uh but. um John Ham was the host and and you. hosted like two weeks after, right? Yeah. So, not that long afterward. Yeah. Yeah. That was 2008. I was pregnant with. my son Argie. Um Ham was the host. I was. supposed to deliver the baby on Sunday. So, I thought I was going to do the show. on Saturday and then deliver the baby. the next day. Like, which wow. True.

psycho. Like, I just thought like, well, this makes sense and I'll have the baby. on Sunday. Um and uh I learned my first. of many lessons of like your kids are on. their own schedule and they don't work. with you. Um, but we rehearsed all day. on Friday. I was in nine sketches or. something that week. Um, six days before. I had done the Palin rap. I was still. feeling pretty good. John was the host. for the first time. Friday, we're we're. shooting like a Mad Men pretape. Uh, I. get a call that my OBGYn has passed.

away. A wonderful doctor who was in his. 80s, who was this incredible doctor. um. he passed away and I burst out crying on. the phone and when you see a very very. pregnant person hysterically crying it's. very scary. Yeah. And the whole crew. gets really quiet and I go behind a. partition to talk and um I find out the. news and I come out and everyone's like, "Are you okay?" And I said, "Oh my god, my my OB/GYN just died. He just died. passed away of a heart attack last.

night." And it gets really quiet and Ham. leans in and says to me, "This is a. really big deal and I need you to get. your [ __ ] together. This is the first. time I'm hosting and I need you to. [ __ ] It's a big week for me if you. got to pull it together." And I go from. crying to laughing so hard that you know. like like squirts like like squirt tears. come out and I start laughing like. clapping and laughing. And it was and it. was so fun and funny and um and again a.

great example of like life is like life. is what you say it is, right? It's it's. life is what you make it and what you. say it is. and he made me laugh so hard. and I went into labor that night and I I. think a lot of it was that because of. the the emotional roller co of that and. I think it's it's also not just a. testimony to him to you that he knew. that it's like you're going to find this. funny. Yeah. And it's because that's. that's because that's you. Yeah. I mean, he he was so great in that episode. And.

in fact, um, uh, Seth Meyers and Lonely. Island have a great podcast about, you. should check that out about that ham. episode. It's really good. Um, and they. talk about all that stuff happening and. how everyone had to fill in and Seth had. to do update alone and it was like this. incredible. I remember. And he did the I. know. Incredible night. Yeah. Um, and. uh, and yeah, and kind of a big day for. me, too. Um because I delivered a baby. Um wait, what? Yeah, not to brag. Not to.

brag. Um but uh Ham wanted me to ask you. this before we go. Do you still worry. about doing a good job every time you're. acting? Like you know, and I I think the. deeper question there was like when you. get to a point where you can approach a. job without that worry about whether or. not it's going to go well or you're. going to do well, are you there? And if. so, how did how and when did you get. there? Yeah. No. No. I I I still worry. Um I sometimes think like I think I'm.

getting worse at this. Um if if you can get worse this um. directors listen up. Yeah. No. Uh there. there are times when you know it's such. a it's an a strange thing where it's. like sometimes on one day or something. you feel like oh this is uh I got it. I. know how to do this. I feel like I've. really kind of figured some things out. Just I've I've got my at this point way.

more than 10,000 hours in and um and. then other times you're. like, "Wow, I'm not I don't I can't do. that. I I don't know how to do this and. I don't and it's the the mystery of it. is a. little frustrating and and bewildering. and um so I do feel. uh I like I don't have a handle on it. all the time but I do. feel also more relaxed about aspects of.

it. Um, I know how some of this stuff. kind of just the the technical sides of. things how they work. I understand. editing. I understand. um how like I can it like I'm you can do. a scene. It's like I'm picturing it as. how the editor will see it or a director. and where you would do a cut point and. these kind certain things you just learn. over time. Um, but I don't but I don't. ever feel 100%.

um comfortable. I don't I don't think. Um, do you ever watch a scene and think, "I wish I did that differently." Oh, yeah. Yeah. Um, certainly. And you have. that thing on like the drive home, you're like, "Oh, why didn't I, you. know, say that or um um I have a scene. in Wet that makes me think of that is. when the scene where we're like out in. the town." Mhm. I remember like um we're. all supposed to be like, you know, it's. that joke that we go out in the town for.

day for the for the hour. That's right. We go out for the hour and then we all. turn into you know drug addicts. basically by the end. We're in we're in. a you're sitting next to the crackhead. and we're smoking crack at the end of. the hour. Um, and I I I sometimes, especially early on, and maybe still, there's just times when I went pretty. big. And you know, I think I think back. and I just think like, I wish I just. like dialed things down a little bit. I.

just I made some choices. Sometimes they. worked, but sometimes they just I it. would have been. maybe that's one scene that I look I'm. like I wish I had just gone a little. smaller and I think it would have been. funnier. Is there anything that comes to. mind that you Yes. Here's what I would. say to that though. I think you're. wrong. Um and and what are you going to. say? I'm right. What are you going to. say? I think you're hilarious in that. scene. Thank you. But it's a little big. I I sometimes.

think, you know, people say less is. more. Sometimes more is more. And. uh it's it doesn't you go big if it's. like coming from a a real place. I I. think that was you were hilarious. Please stop yelling at me. And don't you. ever look at me. Okay, Amy. Look at me. I am. I don't want to. I'm looking at you. Okay. You're not looking at me. You're.

looking at the table. I'm looking at. you. You're not. This eye is kind of looking. at me and that eye is looking at the. Sometimes I think I go too big. I'm. worried. I'm worried about it. That is. such a That is such a good God, you. still surprise me. I don't think I've. seen you do that. It's like that the. just just the weird just or you just. look right over this. It's like doing. the that weird thing. It's like there's. no real um there's no there's nothing.

particularly like specific about it. It's like something's off. But you don't. really know. I don't know what you're. talking about. You know, it's like you. the like that is that is you've clearly. like you need corrective lenses but. you're not wearing them. Just my I'm. when I get tired my eye gets a little. got a little wonky eye and you look like. I just have a thing with my lips. You. got a little surgery. You just got a. It's not that I got a little surgery. It's maybe that I need a little surgery. I love you, Paul. Thank you for doing.

this so much. It means so much. Thank. you for doing it. Oh my god, I I'm so. happy to do it. You're great at it. Check out Friendship coming out in. theaters. No, there's no theaters. No. theaters. Theaters. Yeah. But Oh my god. They still exist. I don't know if people. go. No, they don't go. I'll tell you. though, they should go for you. You. look, you know me. I don't want to go in. my living room and my couch. I don't. promote anything. I It's the lamest.

thing ever. I don't want everyone to. talk about it. We didn't talk about. this, but I will say Tim Robinson is. freaking hilarious. He's got He really. is like kind of the guy. Hilarious. I. got to see this movie with in a theater. with people and I was like, "Oh my god, I forgot what it's like to see something. that like everyone is laughing at like. and having that kind of shared. experience." And it was really it was it. made me so happy and also kind and like.

nostalgic and and like almost sad like. oh yeah this used to exist. Remember. like I still love this too when you. watch previews and there's always some. joker that's like no thanks you was like. you know like oh god I love that even. just someone going like woo. I I remember as a teenager seeing uh. Foot Loose. Oh, I saw that in the. theater eight seven or eight times. I. saw in the theater. It was so good. I.

went back and watched it the next night. I went twice. Yeah. Yeah. So many times. that movie in the theater. I got to get. Kevin Bacon on here. Oh, you got you've. got to Foot Loose is Ren McCormack in. the in the back. So, I remember this. scene where John. Lithgo hits Oh, yeah. his daughter. Oh, Lori Singer. Lorie Singer. And hits her. and then it's shocking and it cuts to. the next scene and he's feels terrible.

and he's saying to his wife, Diane. Wuest, I've never had anyone in my. entire life. And somebody in the back. row goes, liar. And the entire theater lost their [ __ ]. And I was crying like that's the. funniest thing. Liar. Liar. And to this day, I still think of.

it. Yeah. And it's like I was 14 years. old, whatever, however old I was, maybe. older than that, but like. um you don't get that at home on your. couch. You don't get it at all. You. don't get it all. That's what Paul and I. want to encourage people to shout out at. the movie theater. That's right. That's. what it's there for. Whatever you want. You know what? You know, the fabric of. society is praying. Just say, do say. whatever you want. And look, if you. can't think, if you're in the movie. theater with people and you can't think. of something to say, just get on your. phone, Google some. things. Look, scroll or shine a or take.

your put your flashlight on and try to. find somebody else who's enjoying that. Yeah. Yeah. Go like, "Hey, what should. we yell out?" Yes. Or, you know, if. you're if you really like something, run. up to the front. Yes. And stand in front. of the screen and go, I really like. this. How about this? What do you guys. think? Anything to get you there. Yeah. Oh my god. Okay. I can't wait to go to. the movies. All right. Love you, Paul. You're the best. Thank you for doing. this.

You know, I realized with both John Ham. and Paul Rudd, I mentioned Janine Goff, who was one of my first friends in New. York. And like I said, kind of the first. person that I met who I had seen on TV. first. And, you know, I just want to remind. everybody to take a listen and a watch. Uh Janine has done so much great comedy. and remains such a sharp and funny.

um. deeply interesting, curious person who's. you know still performing and still uh. you know she's just like a Gen X legend. Janine, we used to care about selling. out and she never did. And um Janine was. always so kind and so helpful to a lot. of young comedians and actors and. people, myself included. She was. instrumental for a lot of us in, you. know, I don't know, feeling cool and.

feeling like we were part of a club. So. watch Truth About Cats and Dogs, watch. Romeo and Michelle, um you know, uh. Reality Bites, um watch the Larry. Sanders show. Janine is just. consistently good and such a good actor. and so funny and um I just uh I'm just. feeling nostalgic for our times together. and um maybe hope she wants to come here. and talk to me. So uh thank you for. listening to another episode and we will.

see you. soon. You've been listening to Good. Hang. The executive producers for this. show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss. Berman and me Amy Polar. The show is. produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack. Wilson, Cat Spalain, Kaia McMullen, and. Aia Xenerys. For Paperkite, production. by Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna. Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy. Miles.