Martin Short | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

hi everyone welcome to Good hang I'm Amy. polar and we have a great guest today it. is Martin Short the hilarious and kind. and generous and just deeply talented. person who I grew up loving and love. even more now as a grown adult um we're. going to talk to Marty as his friends. call him about uh Canada and the SNL. 50th and only murders in the building. and how it felt to have Co and not be.

able to accept an award that he. won but what's really exciting is um. we're also going to talk to some other. comedy Legends who love Marty and who. want to uh talk nicely behind his back. and tell me questions that they think I. should ask him so joining me um before. we get to our interview are Tina Fay. Maya Rudolph and Colin. Jo this episode is presented by the. Toyota Grand Highlander life's journey.

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Maya and Colin I'm being asked would you. mind flipping your phones to the side. like yeah and I know this seems weird. but can you hold your credit cards up to. the screen too oh yes you want the C CVC. yeah we need the CV the CVV we need the. DV Jo I don't know if you know but I. already did a podcast with Tina who. nicely came in to be interviewed I look.

forward to doing one with you Maya I. look forward to doing one with you yes. and joose you were Nam dropped in in in. the interview that Tina and I did we. were talking about um how much we love. going to the. Lampoon so we're doing this thing um. where we're asking people to kind of. talk behind people's back in a good way. so I've got the great Martin Short on. today never you've all worked yeah never. but I bet he's good if you like him yeah.

I like him I think you should check him. out I think he's. funny I found him on Tik Tok oh so uh I. guess my question is what yeah you know. how much do you love Martin Short what. do you love about him what do you think. I should ask him when I think about him. I think he's. Evergreen. he's he's the he's always funny and he's. always up for being funny and he will. always always make you laugh and he's.

there is a there is a just an unbridled. joy in him in the in the pursuit of. being funny I mean don't get me wrong he. works hard at it and but he but you can. see that he loves it and you can also. see that he loves to be among funny. people there are some funny people who. love to be solo acts and he's not one of. them I think he's one of those people. that thrives among the Funnies.

and he's just like a like a great guy so. inherently that comes through somehow. through the comedy which makes you love. him more when I found out that he had a. stamp in. Canada I was like oh that that that. checks out that makes sense you're. perfect that's awesome wow I got to look. at the image of that is it just him or. of his characters I wonder my memory is.

it might have been one of his characters. character from halfwits it's a it's a. regular stamp but he owns it he bought. it Canada's a much cooler place because. I think Katherine O'Hara has a stamp too. I'm just saying I don't think any of us. are getting stamps in the next four four. to. four so I'm gonna ask him about a stamp. um Tina Jo anything you feel like I. should ask him anything you want to say. about Marty I love Marty I want to I.

want to claim my love for Marty early. like I know I love him I've also had a. crush on Marty from like decades before. everyone else I remember I came to New. York City when I was maybe in college. and you used to be able to go see um uh. Broadway shows for free by being an. usher and so I I was ushering at a a. production of gods spell in like the. early 90s late 80s with like triny. Alvarado as in whatever and I remember I. was ushering and I turned around and I. saw um the two people that I handed.

their programs to were Paul Schaefer and. Martin SCH and I was like because of. course Marty had been in the original. Toronto production um but also I was. like I was Star Struck and also I was. like also Marty's cute anyway I'm on. record I'm you're not alone buddy you're. not alone Mike so I do I would love to. hear him talk about that Toronto. production of God spell because I think. that cast was incredible and it was like. Gilda rner and I want to say Andrew and. Martin like it was insane.

yeah and then the other kind of question. I was thinking about was um uh you know. everything that we everything that we. know Marty from that we grew up with. it's all Canon right like everything. from Father of the Bride and Three. Amigos and and Clifford all these things. andv to us it's all just like comedy. Bible I wonder for him during that time. if he ever felt. like frustrated with being like the.

funny person in the like was was he. happy with his career in that time or. did he did he want more and and does he. does he feel differently now but just. because I feel like we also all look at. our own things going like oh well I. should I should be doing this or I. should be doing that but does does he. know that he has this tremendous body. good was he was he ever grouchy about it. at the time oh good question and. jie I'm doing a Counterpoint right yeah. yeah.

you're what actually sucks about Mar. yeah not nice person hasn't made me. laugh I didn't I was just think. realizing this he was actually weirdly. my first. SNL character I ever saw because I went. on a studio tour when I was young and I. saw Ed Grimley like in stuff backstage. or Pro like promotionally around and I. didn't even understand what it was at. the time but I always remembered it. being funny and and that was like my. first kind of character I saw there.

before I watched the show what I wow and. I loved I mean Three Amigos I just loved. those and and my grandpa so couldn't. understand Three Amigos and my brother. and I watched it all the time and my. grandpa was just like what is this I. don't understand it we love that I guess. my questions are like I was wondering. did he have any did he have any like. rivals in comedy at different times in. his life do you think okay this is this. is a good question do you think I should.

be asking these kinds of questions on. this podcast because I think Marty's a. great person to try it out on because. he'll he he's so kind of graceful I also. think I just watched that um that weird. year documentary and I also would be. curious to hear a little bit of that one. one year in that cast on SNL and was. like there I don't know if you talk. about this either but like for the SC. SCV cast were they were people like. hooking up in that cast too the way. there was like early SNL you know what I. mean.

I don't know that's yes dude so Jo your. questions are who was your biggest enemy. and who did you hook up with okay those. are great those are I'll start with. those Maya thanks for taking a break in. the middle of your show Amy this was a. really good hang thanks Maya whoa great. hang great hang good hang that's my show. my Show's great hang damn that's gonna. be better no I just I I disagree it does.

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know that everyone got it but so we. we're doing this thing on the this. podcast where we're asking I'm ask. reaching out to people who know you or. like friends of yours or ours to ask. them what I should ask you so I just did. a zoom with Tina Maya and. Jo and all three of them have or had SNL. Co yeah they all got it yeah so did uh. so did um Amy Schumer yeah Merill dang.

um Mike Myers now I've done scenes with. all of those people and I shared a. dressing room with Merill I did a scene. with Mike Myers and Maya you got nothing. I know but did you have a good time at. the like how was the experience oh it. was great the whole thing was great yeah. I mean on the Thursday Steve and I went. down to the comedy seller with Simon. Rich and John malany I mean to try out. material which is an insane idea because.

as we were going down there I said to. Steve when was the last time you went to. a club like this you went uh. 1966 so when they saw him they went. insane were they stilling not going to. laugh at his jokes of course everything. right but do you guys do your cuz I want. to talk about your tour that you do. because Tina and I are basically copying. what you're doing but um do you go on. the road and try out your stuff before. the tour yeah never never yeah I feel. like it's not a genuine you just can't. no no no no that's what you know Ali. Wong that the the great standups will do.

that and and then they burn their. material yeah you know I don't and I I I. kind of I think it's hard to get like an. honest laugh from like to your point the. audience is too hot yeah there's they're. really excited to see you in Steve's. case they're saying okay they're both. alive that's so weird so so much for. newspaper articles and so already you. have them you know there's a famous. story Jack Benny I think in his last.

concert in England he was like 80 or. something and he came out and got a 12. minute standing ovation and then his. first line was I'm not that good you. know so there's an element of that I. wanted to talk to you about the. congratulations are winning the SAG. award yeah two of them I know what you. mean you are nominated all the time and. you don't win and the time and then the. time that you win you're not there was. that. a was that a bummer I wasn't watching I. was watching the brutalist uhhuh sure.

you watch it every night well you know. what it is yeah it's like Elon Musk you. need a positive sense of like a big warm. blanket around you before bedtime so you. always put on the brutalist I do that. and then. prescriptions um yeah but yeah I start. with the brutalist uh no so then so then. someone said turn on and I was stunned I. mean it was like that's what Selena. Gomez said we always lose well I I I.

related not to front door brag but I. have been nominated often and never win. never how many emm do you have only one. but I think I've been nominated let let. me pretend to not know the number. um no but it is something in the 20s. Steve says in our show I say how many. Emmys do you have he says I want to say. five I want to say five but I have one. but I was thinking about you because I.

know for me every single time no matter. how much I've um tricked my brain into. knowing who cares it doesn't matter like. there's this. weird physiological moment that happens. when you're just the the Split Second. where you're thinking maybe I'll have to. go up there maybe I'll have to give a. speech does that happen to you um you. know it has happened to me certainly but. I will tell you in this experience of. only MERS in the building this we're. starting our fifth season absolutely.

never had a consideration in fact that. you were going to win no no not remotely. in fact. um um I think that some you know the. publicist send you things and they were. yeah sag predictions and there were like. three other people gold Derby races or. whatever and there were there was always. like well if it isn't Jeremy Allen White. I'll tell you it will be Jason you know. seagull I mean it was like you were. never even close so how did you win the. SAG what did you who who did you sleep.

with I guess I'm a beloved I'm guess you. know I guess the actors stupid icon give. it to the actors and they'll vote for. anybody leave it to actors they'll vote. for anybody no but I mean I was bummed. to see you not be up there but I was. wondering if you cared I certainly it. would have been thrilling to be there. but I do find that stuff of you have to. get up and did you forget a name and I. agree then if you pull out a piece of. paper you're a wimp and you don't have. any Soul you know I saw Timothy shalam. just speak totally yeah he killed it he.

was so good and what I'm going to do. next time if I ever win again okay I'm. going to get up there and lower the mic. so that I can lean down to it like he. did that's a power move yeah it's a. power move talk like this when you're. when you're this length when you're this. lanky yeah you know and I agree you. either have to kind of freeball it and. just be you know off the top of your. head and just talk about how you're. feeling or you have to have really good. jokes the in between is stressful right.

the in between is stressful and then. also leaving up that name yeah like oh I. forgot to thank Selena yeah right that. would be would that would that be the. kind of thing that would keep you up I. would feel badly and she would say it's. cool there's no one cooler than Selena. yeah you know she is so cool she is so. Co how did you guys what I mean I'm sure. you've told this story many times in. other places but never to me when well. because you just started a podcast. that's right yeah that's right exactly.

um and usually when I see you at parties. you're a little bit removed yeah yeah. it's like um looking over the shoulder I. just want to see if there's another more. famous person there m Myers here yeah. yeah I don't like to I like to not. settle in until I find the alpha in the. room and then oh I know oh I know and. I've talked to people who know and I. won't elaborate on. that but the the um only murders how did. Selena get like how did you guys get her.

did was she attached with you at the. same time no no no no it started off um. Steve was at a party at Sandy. gallon I don't know 13 years ago and. sitting on the couch was um Ron riffen. Joel. gray. and someone else and Sandy said that. those three you should do a show for for. them that's all he said and Steve's.

driving home and he's obsessed with True. Crime and watches it all the time and. thought well the tell that's an. interesting idea three older people who. solve crimes in a building but they'll. only solve a murder in the building. because they don't want to travel and he. had the title he had everything and then. he put it on the back shelf for a few. years and then uh had a meeting with Dan. fogam and Dan said any ideas you have. and he said well I have this one idea. and it was L into production how it got.

to be Selena I don't I I don't actually. know I know that um Steve phoned me and. said would you like to do it and I. thought it sounded great and you know it. was work yeah you know uh if he had said. you want to do the the Chrysler. industrial mainly for we're bringing at. the duster we're bring that car back I'd. say sure and you say you say that. there's a check is that what you're. inferring Steve no anyway so I was. excited to say yes and then uh then. brilliantly they went to Selena you know.

if they'd gone with someone another. older person it would be Murder She. Wrote yes it's so smart it's so smart. yeah it's so smart and I'm just curious. and maybe maybe I can have her on here. and ask like what is the Bob Balaban. that was the third guy oh yeah Bob. Balaban I. love they were three on a couch he's. such a good actor um i' be so curious. about like what made Selena sign on for. another TV show it must have been you. and Steve she must have known she was. signing on to something Premier and.

funny she has that taste you know I'm. sure I I mean i' I've told this before. but certainly the first day of shooting. it was um we were in the height of covid. first day of shooting yeah so we had to. wear Shields and masks and yeah and um. so I had never uh met her we had zoomed. in read throughs and stuff and I'm. driving to work thinking well she could. be a nightmare yeah she I mean she's a. princess she's since she was 14 what if.

she's I thought oh if she's late forget. it Steve will quit cuz that's is Aisa. well what if she doesn't know her lines. or what if she's what if she's mean to. people and all those things go to thread. and literally I met her in the makeup. room and I she smiled I thought okay. she's just adorable and she has never. been a second late she is such a pro. it's a joke and then all these endless. guest STS we've had year after year have. all been again impeccable maybe um.

they're afraid of Steve I think. interesting well maybe we have that in. common because I feel like people are. afraid of. Tina and not afraid of me and I want. them to be more afraid of me no no. they're never going to be more afraid of. you but do you want people to be more. afraid of you or do you like that. they're afraid of Steve no I like Steve. is like the pope you know I mean some of. these famous comic types they they like. me it's fine but when Dave Letterman or.

Howard Stern is around Steve or or Jerry. Seinfeld it's. like hi Steve yeah yeah and I don't know. why because I know why I think it's. because Steve just doesn't talk as I. think the power move is to not talk as. much that's what I like the the quieter. you are so that's my big problem is. you're that's your problem and this is. my problem Y Yak y y yak yak. and we're like hey this is this is me.

this is me this is me and you just have. to stay quiet and everybody projects. everything on you so you're. saying that's like a line in the movie. jimy Glick and lwood hold for Applause. um best we improvised a great deal and. Jan. Hooks uh Elizabeth Perkins was. complaining that her husband needed sex. three times a day and she said oh honey. I'll tell you you got to get a blow up. thing because listen had four kids. [ __ ] me is like [ __ ] a.

purse and you'd s saw Elizabeth Perkins. shake her hand cuz she was supposed to. be drinking bring it up to her mouth so. she doesn't spoil the take and I said. Dixie remember when we discussed the. word. Mystique Jiminy Glick. Marty well let's just let's focus a. second on Jan Hooks let's FOC okay. you're right let's talk about was. than Jen hooks there were a few women at.

that SNL 50th that I was really missing. that I really wish I could meet because. I have never met one of them was Gilda. and the other was Jan never met either. one never met. Jan and she was she was the like the you. know Kristen wig or Kate McKinnon of the. cast when I was growing up Jan was so. talented so such a good actress so funny. and moving we did a special together in.

95 where she played everyone everyone. from David Letterman's mother she played. Brett Butler that was so so good so. vicious she's so good yeah yeah I missed. her and I loved Lorraine and Jane. holding up Gilda's picture oh I love. that love that I loved that yeah I had a. great moment with Lorraine and Jane. where I I I didn't know Lorraine that. well I've just kind of like seen her at. events over the years and we I felt very.

um bonded with her by the end of the. weekend I don't know if she felt the. same way about me but she was just I. know she didn't she didn't I asked her. damn it I said who did you bond with who. didn't you bond with and she well she. opens up with the the word surprise. surprise so which shocked. me she didn't like you she didn't I. could feel I could feel. it kept nodding her head no she said I'm. not a fan of the chatty chat she was.

like I wish she was quieter oh my God. she said like Steve Martin like I'll. tell you they make you you know I wanted. me is Tina F totally yeah um damn it I. felt that I felt that because but she. her and Jane she shared two things with. me that I loved one was just a small. detail but I loved it she's like Jane. and I are getting ready together which I. just love that's a very that's a very. girl thing like who are you getting. doing hair and makeup with for the party. and Jane and lorine were getting ready. together which just warmed my heart like.

I love that and also they just both. seemed great. and uh I was like I said you two look. great you seem great and we kind of had. a moment where we said you know women. know how to age like they can they do. better with aging than men well some do. most um you disagree well okay let's. let's put it this way if. go yeah if you're talking about someone.

who's had I said suture who's had 15. facelifts but yes but and then has that. look but that's I think I think we get a. little confused that well maybe I'm. wrong but we live in Los Angeles we see. that a lot but the rest of like your. average people in country I'm sure I'm. sure women T like look at women look at. men and women when they turn 50 it's it. can be diffic it's I don't know every. school reun high school reun I went to. the women look pretty great and the men.

they look bad terrible why okay here's. what okay here's what's not. good gald is tough and that's that that. I don't even mind who's the most. handsome bald person uh Paul schaer Paul. schaer bald person fabulous yes so he um. I say of Paul that I've known him since. 72 and even in 70 two he looked like a. Mater D in a.

spaceship um Anna and will killed as. Bobby and Marty at that music oh my God. was there anything funny and I said to. will after I said okay did that take you. two months or three months he said we. learned it today today and Anna was. doing a great impression of um of Paul. playing them the part because it was. like he was playing yeah 45. 45 songs at once and it was a complete.

chaos and they crushed it and to. me Tina and I were talking about this. after to me there was something very. proud of like I felt very proud of all. of us I don't know why but it felt like. a win for all of us that these two great. sketch comedians came out I mean I feel. this way when I watch you work and when. you and Steve are together like can come. out and just settle a crowd and just it. just own the room there's a joy when. people people are not nervous God I love.

so abolutely and. also neither. character or forget actor but neither. character they were playing was trying. to be funny yeah they weren't trying to. they weren't saying laugh at they were. just being sincere in who they were and. it was oh my God was that a Triumph I. thought Bill Murray killed yeah. everybody was incredible how about Maya. and. friends incredible like Fred can do.

these physical things the slightest. there is no one funnier than Fred I. agree this is what Fred said to. me this is what first of all well this. is visual but every his dressing room is. beside me so I would pass his room and. he'd be on his phone I'd say hey Fred. and he. go say Fred you're not really asleep oh. oh I'm oh hi how long have you been here. Fred I just saw you on the and the other. thing he did which he completely.

convinced me was true was um when I left. the stage after the good. nights he said why did you call Paul. McCartney Tony. McCartney I said I. what yeah I mean you said oh Tony. McCartney and because I didn't know Paul. was standing beside me I thought did I. and such a funny joke then I told Bill.

herter this and Bill told Fred and Fred. sent me a text like a couple days ago. sorry I'm so I thought you knew that was. a joke I literally thought I'd said Tony. McCartney the stupidest thing in the. Tony McCartney Tony McCartney I wish I. said it of course you know not knowing. Paul's name Fred used to send me long. texts about his flight schedule like. when he was arriving what airport what. time to get picked up as if I was. picking him up from the airport he is so. deeply funny he also does a bit that I. love where if you haven't seen him for a. long time at a party and you go hey.

Freddy goes Hi how are you like he. pretends you're just a fan bothering him. he's so funny he loves a bit he does a. million of them too and everyone's funny. yeah but people feel that way about you. people feel like the. way even we were talking earlier with. Maya and Tina and Jo like people feel. that way about you Marty of all the. funny people people think you're the. funniest I don't think so because okay. well okay thank you but I find that I. find what I do with like fred is if it's.

at a party I'll say Do You Hear What. Fred said yeah there's a lot of did you. hear what Fred said I I agree that I. think Fred is like genuinely one of the. funniest people I know. but I think you are too the thing that I. love about watching you is and I don't. know maybe you're faking it but I feel. like the lesson I learned at SNL and. Beyond is if you are enjoying yourself. people will enjoy themselves oh I.

absolutely but the people don't really. apply that often into the work that they. do and even into the comedy that they do. well some people can't hide it you know. I used to think that even if I was if I. was at work and I was feeling low about. something I would do an impersonation of. myself happy yeah and then that would. get me happier like when I started doing. talk shows I I I kept thinking first. time I did a an you know important. American talk show would be December of. 82 Letterman mhm 12:30 show and I. thought what is the gimmick here oh I.

got to do an impersonation of myself at. a dinner party really loose and having. fun but I got to get it down to8 minutes. you know yeah that's deep I remember. Lauren telling me when I was doing. update you have to do a version of. yourself for update that's yeah yeah a. removed version of yourself or are you. doing lip are you doing. lip nothing worse than dry lips is it I. get them constantly it's actually a.

problem of mine I love that you needed. me to do it to feel free that you could. do it yeah I mean I can't I can't do it. that's too rude but if my guest pulls. out lip balm now what if you looked over. and I had bright red lips I wor red. lipstick I love a lip. balm uh it's one of the things about La. that really crushes me is how dry it is. here very dry are is this your homebased. la like this his home no I was born and. raised in Hamilton Ontario Canada and. then uh when when I was 22 I moved to.

Toronto which is 40 Mi east of of. Hamilton I've been to some of those. Lakes you talk about outside of Toronto. and it does not get warm ever it doesn't. it does I was there mid August this is. and I this is and it was about 55. degrees I know but this is going to be. sorry okay well I'm going to say it and. I'm going all be criticized and but it's. a real girl thing to say to be cold yeah. how dare you you [ __ ]. I do a cold plunge [ __ ] every.

day okay but let me say something know. again I got to get in trouble again but. a girl sing to be cold no one's going to. be mad about that a girl calls a cold. plunge is not what a guy call God I'm. doubling like I don't consider I don't. consider 71 a cold pun yeah I mean when. I say cold punch I mean oh God no not. like real coal without my socks on. that's a cold plunge no I have a high.

tolerance for cold I proudly got into. cold plunging like five years ago and I. do it all the time now like every good. podc I'm I'm I'm you know decades older. than you I would think that I'd say I'm. going to do a cold plunge. and and be dead and dead be dead just. floating right in that cold punch no I. slowly built up it was during covid and. I was genuinely I was so what what. temperature did you start truthfully.

truthfully uh I I was so anxious and and. depressed during covid that I was trying. all these different things and so I. would do the sauna and the cold plunge. was about 48 49 degrees and how cold. would you get it now same I don't do it. any colder I maybe the coldness is like. 47 right that's cold it's cold and I. started by just like going in and out in. and out for years and then building up. and now I can do a couple of minutes and. it is com I cannot recommend it enough.

how about just a cup of coffee just a. lovely cup of coffee in the morning you. know I want to talk about your tour. because Tina and I are on tour and we. asked you for advice I don't know if you. remember or maybe we probably sent some. glip you did you said well you said you. gave good advice you gave a lot of good. advice but because we've been doing a. show on tour it's been the best it is. dream come true fun well this is what it. is this is what it is. because you and Tina love each.

other then there's a rehearsal there's. laughs there's a dinner yeah there's. perhaps a glass of wine afterwards MH so. it is kind of like as much fun as it can. be because you're happy to see everybody. and I know this sounds silly but because. I was never a touring. standup or a musician I don't think I. ever sold tickets where people knew they. were going to get me you know I was. either part of an Ensemble part of a. sketch group part of an improv show or I.

was hosting something that it wasn't so. the the fact that people show up already. knowing that you are who they want to. see is it it just gets so much out of. way well that's why you know you've done. corporate dates and things now they can. be tricky because they're not showing up. for you they're showing up cuz you know. they work for. tide and so. um you kind of have to be prepared for. hi everybody.

nothing and not take it personally yeah. oh yeah I mean but when you when when. people have paid to see you it's it's. great compliment and they're happy to be. there and I know it's it's the silliest. most obvious thing but I realized our. first show oh people knew it was going. to be just us yes that's right and they. paid to see us and there's a like a a a. honest exchange between your performance. and their ticket like I do the show for. you you come and pay for it like it. feels very honest whereas I feel well.

see that's the other thing I think that. if if and Steve is similar to me and I. know that Tina and you are the same if. you felt or if I felt that Steve was. kind of walking through it that night. then I'd say you know what this has been. great we did it but we can't do it. anymore because that would and vice. versa he would like be stunned so I. think that that there are certain things. in in Partnerships that goes with. without saying it and that commitment to. understanding that people not only paid.

a lot of money they got a babysitter mhm. there was a dinner maybe you know it's. yeah we have like tons of women who come. with their friends or mothers who are. bringing their daughters this is the. their night out for the month they hotel. room and um and we're the same when we. were done with the show we look at each. other and we're like we gave them a good. show like that's what we feel good about. yeah I know I I it's but I must admit. especially doing different Broadway.

shows through the years I've rarely. met anyone that just wouldn't walk. through it I'm always amazed when I go. to a Broadway musical and it's let's say. Wednesday mat and it's maybe not the. greatest musical you still can't believe. the talent on stage I know the level of. the work like they're working like it. was opening night yeah and I don't think. their computer knows how to do it. differently what was it like like I we. like a lot of people in comedy i i i.

obsess about those early Toronto days. and you all together and that was crazy. crazy I mean one of the questions Jo. wanted me to ask you. was who who was sleeping together that. we didn't know. about you don't have to answer but he. wanted me to ask you but oh I used to be. able to there's a big picture of the god. spell cast and I can go day by. day day by day. oh dear lord three things I pray no it.

was the. 70s yes it's so good I mean that that. period of time with all the people that. you were there with because you were. there with who Paul Paul I was there. with Paul Gilda y um Andrea Martin yes. um Victor Garber Eugene Levy we were on. the same cast wild and I remember Steven. Schwarz it was down it really like 500. people was like American Idol the whole. day was the call back day and friends.

were at the back cheering on friends. and you know Gilda got up there and and. bib overalls and with pigtails on either. side going and saying Zippity Do and I. thought oh that's the saddest thing I've. ever and they said you're hired and I. thought oh I maybe have to rethink cuz. I'm doing My Funny Valentine so I don't. know but it was just she was exact what. they were looking for M and um and then.

we all just got but I remember Steven. Schwarz it was down to about 12 people. and it was between me and another guy do. you remember the guy I no I want to call. him say his name is Andrew I never saw. him again but I just remember Steven. Schwarz who was like 24 at the time. himself went like this Andrew you're so. so good but I think we're going to go. with Martin and I'm still in University. it was like wow so Eugene and I who are. friends went back and there was a pay. phone we kept borrowing each other's.

dimes and phoning people and tell them. what happened and it was a dream now you. weren't in University anymore now you. didn't have to study more any more exams. you could stay up as late as you want. you could drink beer at the end of the. show and he told you in real time pretty. wild right at the end of the day we knew. wow wow wow wow that was unbelievable I. mean can I can I ask you a little bit. about Gilda because we talked about Jam. but yeah I like the things I hear about. Gilda and just might be my projection.

but I just feel like I would really love. her oh you have been mad loveely what I. can't always balance is like how like. you you said something about her one. time about like she just was so. comfortable with her own just the story. you told her own weirdness and. strangeness like her own like she really. knew she was just you know what she was. just every you know I've said this. before but every girl wanted to be her. best friend yeah and every guy wanted to. go out with her I remember she came up.

to the first rehearsal and said hi Marty. I'm so happy to be here and she had her. finger on her forehead and it's I said. okay good I knew she was doing a Dr then. she pulled and she had a big pimple. here she was just so original the size. of her purse the fullness of her hair. yeah. um and you know I I fell for Her Madly. yeah tell me more about that well we.

just because it's just like it's just so. sweet I mean oh no no when she was you. know she was how old were you when you. guys each was younger I was 22 to her 26. wow and um and we went uh we would break. up and get back but over a couple years. what what kind of attachment styles did. you. have what does that. mean do you have an hour but um do you. were you anxious anxiously attached were. you an avoidant no no no no no no no no.

no in fact I'll tell you exactly what is. very interesting Gilda had you know. emotional ups and downs and I had just. gone through a period where my parents. had died right and my mother had died. and all she wanted to do was live and. she was the happiest person in the world. so to me one of the issues that Guild. and I had where we'd have fights about. was I. think what do you have to be not happy. about you're talented you're you have.

family money you everyone loves you. everyone wants to be your friend. everyone wants to date you no one is. funnier you get the biggest laughs of. anyone on. stage you know but I was only 22 you. know I didn't understand you know I mean. look we're learning a lot of things. about gals today one is they can't. handle cold and the other is we' not. learned that not learned duh mood.

swings so I mean I'll like make a list. of the things I've learned about you say. something really beautiful which is you. did have a you had a lot of loss early. in your life and you learned that lesson. that some people learn and take away. which is you know we are here once you. got to figure you know like we have to. enjoy life TR I've never understood. why for some reason cuz my my brother. died when I was 12 my mother when I was. 17 my father at 20. why I didn't become victim of that why I.

became oddly empowered by it to the. point that I could be on stage and put. my hair up in a point and. say I think it's funny you know totally. I mean and not be did they like me I. don't know I do they I was never that. and I think because I grew up in a very. funny family I was youngest of five. Irish Catholic and if they liked you. that's all you cared about you didn't. really you just might have been built.

that way they're just like your nervous. system was right and some people um. understandably become you know victims. of of these tough situations but don't. you feel like that's the I mean for me. anyway that is the thing about getting. older is realizing oh the the simple. lesson over and over again that we all. process differently like I cannot get. someone to be happy if they're not or I. can't or I can't get my and as a parent. you know because we always want to solve.

yeah yeah I mean there's some kind of. version of that what you talk about that. Joy of being alive that does come out in. the stuff that you do and also what I. love about you is you also play. very how do I say this like sharp and um. biting characters like you're you're. also really funny at playing people who. are not rooting for you and but we love.

like okay jimy so jimy yeah no but I. mean wouldn't we love morons with power. we love you know that's a better way to. say um people who I mean to me the the. idea that Jiminy Glick was a guy who had. a staff working for him and someone was. afraid of screwing up the lunch order I. said tuna when I say DJ Mustard does not. mean frenches and they're quivering you. know it's kind of like MH can you. imagine the staff when they leave after.

delivering Trump his 48th thing of. Kentucky Fried Chicken what they're. privately saying MH I don't call this. hot yes sir and Germany to me is a very. familiar person in the in the world that. the past 20 30 years of like press that. I've had to do compl that kind of person. who to your point king of his kingdom. king of his kingdom and you come to them. and this this is how we do things and. they're inquisitive but like mean and.

they they ha F from Kids in the Hall. said Marty oh you finally created a. character who's as mean as you really. are in life well but that's like I think. that's what I'm getting to is I do you. think you are meaner than people think. you are probably but I think that you. know my father was sarcastic and Irish. and mean I mean I I remember taping um. recording two half hours of present. opening on Christmas morning and you. hear my father oh Michael what a lovely.

I wonder what Michael would give you if. he had money you know it was like oh. yeah was just all that stuff but teasing. is a love language yes yes yes that's. what I do for people so but there were. the thing that was weird for me doing. jimy Glick was that because it was. improvised I would say things that even. shocked me afterwards like I remember. interviewing Edie. Falco and she was in the middle of an. answer and I went sh just cuz I asked. you a question does not mean that I need.

an answer thank you and she said. afterward she was really thrown because. being shush was her Achilles heel as a. kid oh so you can see it even the she. did that and it was also so insane so. insane a great great moment though I. mean Jiminy is the videos that people. watch that my people watch. to check like to just get a huge. serotonin boost like it is Jiminy videos. all the way we Tina and I all of us send.

each other those videos almost every. week still I love that they just they're. so. funny I think it is that ability to say. the worst things yes and have no. fingerprints on it like I said you know. saying to Mel Brooks what's your big bee. for the. Nazis and and he just kind of goes my. big beef my big beef I said you're. always knocking the nazzi oh it's time.

for Mal Brooks to knock the. Nazis and he goes I don't know the. rude and and the guest it was completely. like like they didn't know question CL. the only thing we ever did once with. stepen. Spielberg uh I said to Stephen okay at. one point I'm going to ask. you to describe how how you view the. role of a director m M and kind of look. off mhh and so what we planned was the.

only time we ever planned anything like. this is that he was talking the camera. stay with me and I slowly got down in. the chair and crawled to craft service. and took all the candies put three. Donuts put them in my pocket crawled. back crawled up in the chair I said and. interrupted oh isn't that wonderful now. [Laughter]. so God Jiminy forever jimy forever um. you have a stamp in Canada I Do I Do Is.

it a picture of you or one of your. characters it is picture of many. characters so it's a many character. stamp yes it's a stamp I have a coin wow. yes is was that cool did you get did. they have a a ceremony and everything no. they didn't have a ceremony but they had. uh or they did and I didn't show. probably more like it you know what I. mean it's probably I it was they did. they had a guy except for you yeah they. were doing a whole you know Bewitched.

tournament on TCM and I wasn't going to. miss. that um no um a coin I have uh yes a. stamp and so does Katherine O'Hara I. heard the great so does Jim Carrey Mike. Myers a few of us all heroes of mine I. was 12 and 82 were you on SNL what year. were you. onv in 82 I joined it in in the spring. of 82 so what how many years were you on.

SNL one wild what was your first year um. when I started 2001 I started two weeks. after 911 wow that was the time when it. was like you know will we ever laugh. again comedy is dead right and I. remember thinking but but maybe not. maybe it's you know maybe we should. still laugh um yeah the our my first. show was the Giuliani show with the. first resp responders on stage right who. was the host reys Witherspoon musical.

guest Alicia. Keys and that was September 29th or. something 2001 God and you know you it. was like you know the beginning of any. job it's like where are the bathrooms. how does this work how do you get. anything on and we're not going to do. anything political for three years. comedy is over New York is you know. hurting we're going to you know there's. Anthrax in the building but isn't it. interesting that that. happened then Co happens over and over.

again th this idea that how can we get. through this personal people have. personal tragedies in their life it's. like over and over again we think how. can I get by and for me and maybe for. you like comedy just continues to be the. thing that I think pushes people oh. absolutely through yeah because it is so. absurd our life that that that these. perfect lives will end one day. and um and that tragedy exists there is.

a reason that the two masks are comedy. and tragedy because they're both. Preposterous and I think comedy. has saved my life endlessly endlessly. you know yeah and and and being so lucky. to to be in the family I had this Irish. Catholic youngest of of five siblings. that are all still so close and all. funny and all of us do Wordle every day.

and everyone is mean to each other and. insult each other and it's perfect it's. the best yeah it's. the my father someone laughing I my. father my father would never uh never. had dinner with us you know because he. have his big he was Irish so he had and. he was a successful guy but he'd have. his big Irish broke yes cross mlen count. M Marty get down here and uh so he he. would come home we'd be in the nook. having dinner and he'd have the.

newspaper with his gin and ginger no ice. cuz the Irish feel ice is addictive so. he'd sit there and uh he'd uh Marty. don't shovel the food in like an animal. D thank you and then one or one time he. got up and he said Michael keep eating. I'll make sure the dogs don't get at you. know it was just and of course if you. weren't the brunt of it you found it. hilarious yes but that's that's love. that that is the fact that somebody. feels like you can take the teas yeah is.

that high compliment people ask Steve. and myself this a lot I'll ask you have. you like Steve and I insult each other a. lot you know I mean in life it started. with me insulting him in life because. that's how I grew up and then we turned. it you know we insult each other on. stage but people always wonder if there. if I've ever gone too far or hurt his. feet. I didn't mean to it never has happened.

and Steve will answer that question by. saying I think it's because we just know. we'd never intend to yes that's right. yeah and we have Tina and I have a. different Dynamic we don't we don't. really insult each other well you'll. fight over the heat right like if it's. too cold in the room you'll say o that's. my blanket I mean do you ever do that. stuff no you don't mm but I think you. see it's so funny you say that because I. think of you ladies as that's where you. should stop well no I just think of you.

should just stop don't don't think of us. so you never say okay Missy that you. don't say that okay that's my blanket no. we're really we usually are the same. temperatures so so sorry why should I so. I shouldn't just verbalize what. everyone's thinking I don't think. everyone's thinking it I think it's very. personal okay whatever you think that's. fine I don't know if any if you noticed. this at all but um there's a lot of this. is my personal fake food some of my. personal fake food collection so we've.

been trying to figure out how to make. the studio Feel Home you know what. interesting would have fake food and it. would be boring to look at thank you but. the way you've arranged it like the. cheit well let's talk about it for a. second while we just have a second yeah. okay so this is a for people who might. be watching this rather than listening. to it there's a tiny little um paper box. of Cheez itss yeah and you think oh it's. just a teeny tiny miniature box of. cheese that's there can't be anything in.

there no it can't be anything it'd be. silly if there was maybe there's a tiny. cheese. it do you know what's sad about this. moment you you actually know a lot about. this stuff this is my stuff no I know. that's what's sad but you know what oh. my God sometimes when I'm like I'm. dieting but I'm still hungry for. something. does have an icy you know what when I.

have a tiny Nutri box of neutr grain. bars well surely nothing's in there oh. it's a tight just a silly little box it. couldn't be an. actual neutr grain bar in with a. anthropomorphic face that's winking at. you let's see if you can see that right. see a lot of people would find that. disturbing yeah not me not me but. meanwhile. well thanks oh hold on hold.

on party and not to be not to make a big. deal but this isn't real this is a. candle. and it's fake bread and it looks like a. candle see if you were on a blind date. with a guy and he brought you back to. his apartment and said you want to see. all these things I've done that I've. brought all my men. through some it isn't you'd say okay and. I put it yeah and I go let's go guess.

which is fake I go put it in your mouth. put it in your mouth and tell me what's. fake that's how I get them well that. was I'm not see clip clip yeah clip I. can sensor but look a simple felt fake. garlic this isn't garlic this is. felt oh you're kidding felt tomato come. on why. you oh that is so clever and you know. what again some people would have this.

and not make it interesting but you. describing. it is really really. interesting oh thank you oh look you can. do props you want. to take your word for. it I'm a pirate you know listeners uh. Marty is putting a fake tomato in one of. his eyes and pretending he's a pirate.

it's this kind of prop stuff that's. great for podcasting I know and you know. what it's so interesting I realize now. as I do it it's one of the things that. have kept me out of the big money is. prop humor prop humor but you're making. it work what's that an egg this is a. fake egg ASMR listen to. this it doesn't sound fake to. me people make so much money doing click. ity click things with microphones not. but not with a fake egg but what a gift.

you have if this is an indication of. what your podcast is going to be yeah. it's really really I think I wouldn't. make a big cake to celebrate the second. week but certainly um I bet you finish. this week yeah we will definitely finish. this week we will definitely yeah and. they've been very nice and they they. they I in fact they I wouldn't bother to. decorate the whole place I mean you've. got you've got this stuff going I think. it's oh. pancakes baked pancakes they just said.

someone just said to me great job and. let's finish the week that's what. someone said to me and I take that as a. good sign yeah well I think it's very. good so my last question to you is and. I'm asking a lot of people this what is. the thing you like where do you get your. serotonin what do you look at watch. listen to where do you go who do you. hang with I mean we you're very funny. friends but you know what is the what is. something that you like genuinely laugh. at that you watch or consume I can.

always turn on Annie Hall and just get. lost in it um but I have. great friends for a long time decades. and decades friends who are all famous. people in comedy and everyone is funny. one time I was having lunch with Chris. guest this is years ago I was making. this movie Captain Ronnie said Martin. what is this film about and right away I. knew he'd hate the film you know I said.

well Chris um I play a. man who has two children who inherits a. boat he said I didn't say spoiler for. me I thought do you have anything you. like like now that like you're watching. or anything that's making you laugh no. you know I truthfully I am uh a News. Junkie well this is yeah okay I watch. you know Morning Joe I every morning. I'll turn on CNN so there are many many.

I love Bill Maher but there are many. many things that people say you haven't. seen that I mean when I go to the emys I. don't know who's a massive star or who's. a seat filler because there's so much I. haven't seen there's just still that. last Sint elsewhere I haven't have. you. El God I loved Saint elsewhere love s oh. but there that s elsewhere was so I'm. telling you. this the last time you watched TV is say. jck said to Bill hater I'm still mad.

they cancelled Aras you. [Music]. know all right well I love you very much. thank you so much for doing and so I get. paid yeah not in cash right no no in. Bitcoin in. Dogecoin in Doge Doge in Doge a. catcoin well that was an awesome. interview with Martin schw he is the. best and and now it's time for something. we're calling the Polar Plunge which is. basically how do you. get how do you change your day how do.

you make yourself feel better I do like. to jump in a cold water I know it's. weird but I have a podcast so I have to. do it um but I think one way to uh like. change the molecules in your brain and. give you a serotonin boost is to laugh. and there is no better laugh for me than. Jiminy Glick so do yourself a favor and. watch that character played by Martin. Short in a variety of videos online. Jiminy Glick interviewing Bill hater. when he stepped in for Jimmy Kimmel is.

so funny hater cannot stop laughing and. he just loves getting teased and that. kind of teasing between people who are. mutually respectful of each other is. like my favorite kind of love language. um so yeah Martin schw thank you for. Jiminy Glick the gift that keeps on. giving and um if you have never watched. that character please binge it. now thanks so much for listening to good. Han thanks for hanging with with us we. will see you next. time you've been listening to good hang.

the executive producers for this show. are Bill Simmons Jenna Weiss Burman and. me Amy polar the show is produced by the. ringer and paper kite for the ringer. production by Jack Wilson cat Spain Kia. McMullen and Alia zener for paper kite. production by Sam green Joel Lovel and. Jenna Weiss Burman original music by Amy. miles.