Kathryn Hahn | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hi everyone, this is Amy Polar. Welcome. to another episode of Good Hang. I'm. very, very excited to uh uh introduce my. next guest, the great Katherine. Han. What can I say about Katherine? She's a legend. She's so talented, funny, smart. She can do it all. And um. people love working with her. And I. loved working with her. And today we. talked. about what is her relationship to work, what is her process, how important is it.

for her to feel connected to the stuff. that she does, how is she dealing with. this new version of fame and popularity, and how is it changing her life? And. also how important female friendships. are and how you really haven't met. everyone you're supposed to meet even at. my age of 53. So, um, I'm really excited. for you to hear what Katherine and I. talked about today. It was a really good. hang. It always is with her. So, check.

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Patty, are you there? Have you joined. us? She's not. She's not there. She's. still She's still not there. Okay, just. so just to give you guys an update, Patty just checked in and said, "Got it. I'll have to be on my phone. Okay. Putting on slap. now. Uh I don't know what that means. I'm gonna say Okay. Haha. Okay. Thanks. so much. Okay. This is fun. So, I don't. know what putting on slap means. It. either means she's slapping on makeup or. that's some kind of Broadway term. There.

you are. Wait, is that a term putting. slap on? Yeah, slap is a an expression. from for makeup. Yeah, putting slap on. H. I love you, daddy. I love you, too, darling. Let me just. put a little more slap on. So, what are. you doing these days? Singing. Are you. Yeah. Are you Do you have a show. tonight? No, I have a show on Monday, but what I have tonight is um an opera. You're attending it or you're singing?

No, I'm I'm attending it. Um my friend. um is taking me Let me just get the eye. shadow on. Darling, who can talk when. you're, you know, putting eye shadow on? But I'll try. Uh, my friend that wrote. it is here because it just premiered and. we're going to the senior citizen. special. He's calling it dinner at. 5:30. The opera starts at 7 and it's. three hours long. And so we're going to. go and have dinner at the Met and which. is very exciting. It's very, you know,

you feel like you're in, I don't know, another dimension when you go into the. Metropolitan Opera House. But it's. pretty incredible just to watch the. people that show up and how they're. dressed and how they act. Darl, I'm. ready for you. Oh, you look fantastic. I look hideous, but thank you. But let's talk about Catherine. Okay, let's talk about Catherine. So, today's. episode, we're talking to Katherine. We're doing this fun thing where we're. kind of talking behind people's backs.

before they come in just to kind of hear. more perspective about them and what. what you think I should ask her or you. know what you'd be interested in hearing. her talk about and tell me how like you. how you met and your your relationship. with her. Well, we met on Agatha. um at the table reads basically. Um. Katherine because she was the leading. lady was incredibly generous and incred.

incredibly open and incredibly inclusive. and embraced I think the responsibility. of a leading lady and that's you know. that comes without fear basically. Um, and she was fearless and generous and. and one of my favorite things about her. is she snorts when she laughs. So, you know she's having a good time. She's a big laugher. She's a big. laugher. But but when you get to.

snort something was really. funny and that's, you know, one of her. best qualities, her snort. She is a real. mix of a a a very poised and serious. dramatic actor and deeply goofy. Yeah. Very very funny. Um and doesn't take it. seriously, which is great. You know what. I mean? I'm going to ask her about this, but I want to ask you too. I mean, the.

response uh has been huge for Agatha. It's everywhere. It's viral Tik Toks. It's people waiting for you at the. airport. like the the way you get this. giant huge new group of people who know. you and know your work. What has that. been like? I don't have the kind of. response that Katherine has gotten. I. mean, in in I know that it's so it's so. weird because because I do so many. different things. People some people. know that I sing and do Broadway.

musicals and some people know me from. Steven's Universe and some people know. me from Life Goes On and some people. know me from Agatha for Agatha. And the. ones I've been getting more more fan. mail about Agatha and um which is great. because who would think that I would end. up in the Marvel. universe knowing nothing about it and. choose to remain that way knowing. nothing about it. Any ideas of what I. could ask Katherine today? Like any.

questions? Ask her if she's ever thought about. directing and would she cast me. I'm just curious to know whether she. would want to direct. And of course, I I. need to get. hired and I think she, you know, she. would be a riot behind the camera. I. think, you know, they'd have to take. take after take if it was funny and she. snorted. I think she'd be a great. director. I think she would be a great. director. Agree. All right. Love you, Patty. Thank you so much. My pleasure.

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going to put them in the freezer and. then I'm going to have frozen grapes and. I'm going to feel very classy and very. refreshed. Get almost anything delivered. with Uber Eats. Order now. For alcohol, you must be legal drinking age. Please. enjoy responsibly. Product availability. varies by region. See app for details. Everyone, this is Katherine. Hi. everyone. Thank you for having me. Katherine, I love you so much. Thank you. for being on Good Hang. So happy to be. here. I love you. You know, I've only. done a few episodes so far. This is very.

new. And I got a note um recently from. the great Bill Simmons, who is kind of. like uh I guess my boss and but um he is. uh so good at podcasting and is has. created an empire and and has allowed me. to come and do it. And he said, "Lose. the ringer." And he said, "Lose the. laptop.". Why? Oh, just so it's like more. conversational, I guess. Why do you I. just before I do, I just want to.

audition it one more time. How do you. feel about it? Listen, I think that. that's fine for him. If he doesn't need. one, but if you need one, screw it. This. is your podcast. Well, I want to say to. you and Bill that I like to look things. up on here. It does take me a long time. It does take me You're fact-checking as. it's going on. I think that's good. Well, that I kind of was joking that I. had it to just make it seem like I was.

factecking, but I'm Have you ever used. it? Yeah. Okay. Okay. Okay. If it's just. there for evidence, maybe I was just. watching you. I just have to catch up on. the pit. Wait, is that is that the medical. procedural? Okay, great. With the guy. who's already been on a medical. procedural. Okay, great. It's supposed. to be great. It's so good. Okay, I gotta. get into it. That's what I want to talk. about today. Okay, good. Just kidding.

Okay, well I want to talk about. Paradise. Dr. Carter aka Noah Wy is now. in a new show which is nothing like ER, but I'm a huge ER fan. But the pit is so. because Bill told me to get rid of the. laptop, I'm going to put it in half. mass. Good. And then if I need it, I I do feel like. I want to I want to watch something with. you today. Keep it there. Okay. Yeah, half masked. Okay, don't close it. But I But Bill, I. hear you and I I appreciate the the.

because it looks love and I I have to. say I'm still trying to figure out the. process of this. So I so appreciate you. coming in midprocess. I'm so I love. mid-process. You do? I do. I do because. it's still figuring itself out. So I I. like it. I don't like I It's better. It's more interesting than a welloiled. machine. Yeah. Tell me more about that. because you're so you do you I love that. about you is you love the the the messy.

middle of stuff. I do because it's like. a there is like a little on your toes. um feeling of of of growth that's. happening while you're in it. And that. always feels like super chargy to me. if. it's like I don't know it's more like. sometimes it's good and like you know. that you're gonna hit this this and this. but I I love conversations and I think. and I know you do too that are like a. little not so prescribed at the. beginning. You're so good at them.

You're you're you're really really good. at um hanging in. Uh yeah, it's what. makes you such a good person and friend. but and also such a good actor is you. you can like tolerate the in between. which few I don't know if I can I'm. learning I'm learning. Yes, it is. uncomfortable sometime sometimes. depending on what it it really is but. just to sit in it and let it like I'm. not talking about a podcast but like. life or like schmacking. Yeah, it's.

definitely like that in that kind of. like uncomfortableness I think is. um like like the time that you're going. to be surprised. Did you know that? Let. me see if you can guess how many times. how many episodes of Parks you did. Do. you do you would you know to guess? I. would. say between seven and 13. Yeah, 10. 10. Okay. Between seven and 13. That was my. It's kind of right between. That's.

amazing. But it was such a huge impact on my. life. Like it's still the thing I get. most recognized for. Really? Yes. And I. just remember Well, first of all, you. were the most incredible number one on a. call sheet because you had dance parties. at lunch every day. And anybody that. walked on that like set just was filled. with such confidence and such joy, which. is I had the greatest time on that show. I have such I don't have the greatest.

that's where we kind of fell in love but. that is re that's really Katherine where. we I think actually met my first kind of. like real memory is in the trailer of. parks and wreck and we used to Katherine. is talking about dance parties and we. used to do a thing where just like after. lunch we would play three songs best the. great Autumn Butler our makeup artist. had great taste in music and we would. just kind of dance around for two or. three songs. Yeah. the best. I think for. me, a way to honestly just keep my. energy up. Yeah. But it became a way to.

meet people in the trailer. And I. remember two things I loved about you. right away. How much you love to laugh. People that know you know that like you. you love to laugh. If someone's going to. break in the scene, it's this. professional over here. You know, you I. don't Do you think you break a I have to. be really serious in my mind? Like if I. have because if it starts to happen, it. is tears. Yeah. And mucus. But you I have seen you. in bloopers and you're hanging in. Yeah,

I do hang in. You hang in. I do. Yeah. You in fact go in harder. I think when. people are like I have to I know it's a. survival technique. I just have to dig. in a little bit. I do. I go harder. I. feel like every time I've done a scene. with you, you are so good at. improvising. In fact, like a lot of your. character on Parks and Rec, Jen. Barklay's moments were improvised. Were. they really? Well, my one of the. favorites, one of one of Tik Tok and. memes and gifts and just poncho his.

poncho. Yeah, poncho was So, let's talk. about what happened. For people that. have never seen that, what what is it? What? Tell us what that scene was. Well, I went to Ben and Leslie's house. Um, I'm speaking as Jen Barkley, my. character. I'm first person now. Well, for people that aren't watching, she. just transformed. just transform. Her. eyes turned dark and she's a completely. different person. A lot more. hairspray. I went to their house. They. have children. Uh I am not into children. at all. I wore a plastic poncho so that.

I wouldn't get any sticky fingers or. crap all over me. And at some point the. kids rush by with paint, nail me with. the paint. And at some take just to make. you guys laugh. I don't even did not. have any idea it was gonna be any. I. just swung my arms open. I went poncho. poncho. And that really has become it. has it's like Batman's cape. I mean, that was the best. Like I just. wanting to make you guys laugh and just.

having so the the energy is so loose. So. I like it's funny you say that. improvising again. I can do it if I know. who I am and like the given. circumstances and like that I feel like. I feel really free in that department. just well you know how like we we were. on set a lot and I would watch you work. and I would say the same thing about. Adam and I wonder too if it's because of. your both of your training but I would. watch the way you two. worked and you would have a moment where.

we you'd stay really really loose and. but just right before the scene and I. can think of a couple scenes the great. scene where Jen Barkley is telling. Leslie no basically you know you have to. start. Oh, you have to start thinking. bigger, which is a huge moment in the. show. I love the writing and that's Mike. Sher and the writers. Like, I just love. how they slowly took care of Leslie and. they sent people in to give her these. messages and Jen Barkley is just this.

like Gen X. Yes. Um, ballbuster. Yes. Who who kind of sees something that. Leslie doesn't. Anyway, in that moment. when you're giving that speech, I. remember very clearly right before the. scene, you just took a moment and I. think we joked about it later because. I was like it was like. watching it was watching a a real actor. Oh god. Just staying one more second on parks.

because I do think that um it it was. such a formative time in my life. obviously for many reasons and one of. them was meeting you is. what I always use that us as an example. of is that you never know who you have. yet to meet. No. Yeah. I think, you. know, when you're in your 40s, there's. this feeling that you've pretty much you. have your old friends, your high school. friends, you have maybe a partner and. their friends, you have your kid, mom.

friends, college, yeah, college. Yeah. You have like this all these different. groups of friends and you think, I think. I've met everybody that's going to be my. close friends. I have I I know because. sometimes those friends become just. family. You know what I mean? as. everybody grows and changes and like. people there's there and so in my life. always always but we are very different. people I don't know what you know and. you're right there are people like I. think even I've been in a lot lot of.

projects where you get like intimate. really fast and everybody says goodbye. but then there are certain people where. you I didn't anticipate this like I did. that was the the one of the pleasures. for me too is like I did not anticipate. that you would want to continue to be my. friend after we did it. And then the. fact that it's gotten like deeper and. deeper, I'm like now I don't know how to. do it. I mean like I am so grateful for. you in my life. We've like we've been in. the trenches. We've been in the.

trenches. Yeah, we have. We have like. we've been through a lot of tough times. together. We've been very honest with each other. Yeah, we've like I think we've. really like taken great pains to see. each other. Yeah. Like we're make it a. priority. And I mean I know how I feel. about how important that is for me, but. what what how what how are female. friendships important to you? What do. they do for you? I think the the real. female friends that I have, the deep.

ones are fewer than I thought I would. have. like the ones that are really, you. know, have your back through anything. And there's a difference like these. It's so important to. have women in your life that aren't. family to grow old with in a way that. it's like you said, feels very honest, but and also hilarious, but also doesn't. feel like we have to keep up any.

anything together. like keep up any sort. of like front. It just feels like and. also very affirming like to walk into. these next chapters together just feels. like it's not as terrifying. Yes. The. witch's road. The witch's road. The. coven. Yes. Coven on coven. Yes. Yes. That's why I mean I that is why when I. watched that show when I watched Agatha. all along um uh that was it was so.

moving you just to get basically you. must hold hands with someone to go into. the next step and let's be honest our. female friendships and relationships are. going to you know with the exception. maybe our sibling relationships will. probably last the longest. I know they. will. And I think with my dear dearest. women friends, of which there are very. few, that that is such a source of. comfort just to be heard by another. woman. Yes. Without judgment, without. like anything but just um love. I know.

I feel you. U speaking of other women. Um yeah. So, we do this thing uh where. we ask people before we have a guest to. um chat about the guests. So, like I. kind of like wanted I want to like and. we got Patty Leone. No, you did not. Yes. Oh my god, I was so excited. The wolf. Patty the. wolf. The wolf.

Leone. Of course. The wolf. Of course. Oh my god. I'm This is going to be the. best. Well, first of all, what if it was. like. Well, she can't sing, but yeah, not. talented. Um, no, she she's so great, isn't she? I know. Uh, talk about, you. know, a new friend that I want to I. mean, I feel like I keep I have to stop. telling her our I I have to stop asking. her if we're friends. I just have to.

start believing that we are. But, um, anyway. Oh, doll. Call everyone doll. But you're right. To have someone that. is like in a different stage of our. lives that you can that is so real. Very important. I I don't know about. you, but I get very comfortable around. Yes. older women who are very bossy. Yeah. Um because I get very relaxed. Yeah. We're in good hands. We're in good. hands. And the the few times that I've.

hung out with Patty, like she's like, "We're going for a walk." and she tells. me what to buy and and it's. just Okay. So, tell me about about how. you was was Agatha the first time you. met her? Oh, yeah. Okay. Um and I. remember when they said it was Patty. Leon, I was like, "No." And then we I met her at the first. table read and she just came in with so. many questions, which of course like she. knew nothing about Marvel. I barely know. anything about Marvel. So, she was like,

"Okay." A and it was just all of these. very detailed questions, but then she. just forgot and it didn't matter. Like. she was she'll stay she'll still be like. I don't know anything about Marvel. She. did. She she told us that. She did. She. said well I don't know anything about. which I love. I mean and also. and she said you guys met at the table. read and Agatha was a really big circus. to lead. Oh yes. And you had to do a lot. of big stuff on there. It was a lot of.

swinging. Oh my gosh. So much, you know, uh if if one is to believe that acting. is a little embarrassing. Oh, right. You. had to do so much stuff. Incred birthing. scenes and crazy stuff and holding hands. and singing. Yes. So much incredible. stuff. Yes. But like walking the razor's. edge cuz we knew if it went one way or. the other, it could be like, "Oh, wow.". And America voted and it worked. America. voted for if Tik Tok voted. Tik Tok is. my government. Okay. I know. I got to.

get on Tik Tok. It's It's I think it's. wrapping up. Oh, I know. It's my perfect. timing as usual. Still my AOL. It's like. me and podcast. I'm like, "Let me get in. there." And everyone's like, "Now?" I'm. like, "Yep." Right before the door. closes. But just for a second, what was. it like to be on such a big show making. having to make really big choices with. all these incredibly big personalities. and people? It was just it must have. been something. We were all there was no. trailers to go back to really because we.

were kind of far away always. So we. would set up like a little coven of our. chairs in a circle. So, like all of our. crew chairs would be in a circle and you. could just hear us cackling like the. whole like I mean we just laughed and. Patty had a boom box and she would get. up and like dance or start singing and. we would all be like like it's coming. out of her mouth right now. So Patty. wanted me to ask you two questions. Well, first she said she loves your. snort and we already got it. We already. got it once. I thought like it's not as. cute anymore but I'm still comes out. I.

mean, you're talking to a person that. laughs like a I've been described as a. raven when a raven when someone runs. over a raven's foot. That's how somebody. described my laugh one time. So, I mean, I don't know what you're talking about. It's the greatest laugh, but ever. It's. just I have a very witchy laugh, too. And you have a very witchy laugh and a. very You do. And it's a cackle and a. very. devious laugh sometimes. It is.

It's a little cat that hit the mouth. It. I just love it so much cuz it it's like. a little. devious and then huge caggles. And you have a great laugh, too. Like. you laugh with your whole body. I do. You like I do. Oh, there she goes. But I. really do. I do. I love a good laugh. God, me too. Have you always been that. way? Was that Where did Where like Have. you always been that kind of person that. loved a good laugh? In high school, it. started for sure. And then I was like, you know, I went to an all girls.

Catholic school. So we had like a I mean. that group was constantly making fun of. the nuns. And so I was just like crying. all the time. Just crying all the time. Just like h just floating maxi pads in. like the s in like Mary's pond. Like. there's like a statue of Mary and we. just like and the nuns would be like. okay so there are maxi pads floating in. the it was like always fit like that. just like fun church giggle stuff stupid.

like you'd open up a locker and there'd. be like a huge dick the pop would pop. out on a spring like we were very first. my theory that Catholic school girls. were a so bad they were so bad but. because everything was you know uniforms. and there was like church every week and. it all felt like I don't know if I. believe in any of this. Yeah. And then. B, they were just like really ready to. go. Really ready to go. Oh, I was like, "Let's go. Let's go." And they were I. was like, "Any takers? Any takers?" And.

there was not takers. I was like, "Hey, horny. So horny." And. I was like, "Okay." I was like, "Is it my. overplucked. eyebrows? What's what's happening? Is it. my Catholic school uniform that my mom. thought I was going to gain maybe or. like seven dress sizes, but I was. literally like kids would go down and. see my skirt and just pull it off me. like in school. So, we had to wear. boxers. Oh, yeah. Boxers were a big deal. that Wait, it was an all girls school.

Yeah. And they were pancing you. Pancing. me. Skirting you in in I did go to co-ed. Catholic elementary school and we would. have something called Friday flipup day. So, we knew to wear boxers because on. Friday, all the guys ran around and. flipped up your skirt. Oh my god. Yes. And Thursday, throw up day, Wednesday, wedding day. I don't know what Tuesday. or Monday was after. Flip up your skirt. And back then, we were like, the price. of being a girl. It is. We were like, "Oh, we better get prepared." We were.

like, "Maybe someone will flip up my. skirt today." So [ __ ] up. So [ __ ]. up. So [ __ ] up. And and the teachers. were like, "If you guys are doing the. flip up, keep it outside of class. I. want to know about it." And then I. remember some guy some kid I was in. sixth grade called me gorilla legs cuz I. haven't shave I hadn't shaved my legs. yet. And I was like horrified by that. So I went home and I tried to shave and. it was like a cheese grater. It was like. I could see a curl of my skin before it.

started bleeding and I was like what? Oh, I still have scars. Oh no. I didn't. know how to do it. I went rogue with my. dad's shaver in the tub. Oh, no. Cuz of. that stupid boy. It was that stupid boy. I know. I had a stupid boy tell me one. time that I look like a frog. That my. face looked like a frog. And I just I. still think about it. I mean, I still. remember. I just remember being like, well, I Yeah. But you just get that. thing where you're like, well, I guess. I'll live the life of a frog then. Like, you just immediately like, well, if one.

boy thinks it that then it shall be so. Then it shall be so. Yeah. Yeah, I. guess. Well, I'll be they'll just flip. up my skirt and I'll wear my boxers and. shave my legs in the bathtub and wear. have a face like a frog. I mean, it's. horrible. It's horrible. The [ __ ] I got. for my nose my whole life. Really? For. the size of your nose? Yes. And that I. had such. a such a like thing about it that I was. like, when I'm 18, I'm getting a nose. job. And now I'm so glad that I did it.

No. Yeah. And now I love my nose. I just. think people should know that you have. never gotten any plastic surgery. Not. that there's anything wrong with that, but I just think but I think also we I. feel that way with you like it's a time. this is a treacherous moment where. you're like have to leave behind all. that currency that I really didn't I. wasn't listen I wasn't like that was my. that wasn't my my currency in this. business was never like same which I. think is helpful going forward because. it's not but yeah I'm like but now.

you're now you've gotten into mother. phase your mother Han now I have mother. Han Because honestly, this is my. Instagram thing that my I haven't used. since in the first fight. I kind of. petered out on the dumbest one. I just. haven't done it again. I put it on my. computer and yeah, I haven't posted. literally it's the dumbest last one. I. know you don't know what it is, but it. was just petered out and um we tried my. daughter tried to find a name for me or. like whatever. handle. Is that what it's called? Yeah,

I think so. and we couldn't find. anything with my name and then we saw. motherhan lowercase and I was like oh. that's funny and she was like you know. the other connotations though and I was. like yeah fine I'll be cute but then it. has really a very it does have a very. specific um like following which I love. well that's what I'm saying is there's. this amazing moment that's happening for. you in general where you know people. that have loved your work now for 20. years are seeing you get this kind of.

next level of um recognition and you. know all that comes with like the Marvel. machine. Yes. And there is this also. celebration at the same time led. primarily by gay men but not just gay. men and young gay women. young gay women. who love the lesbian kiss that you had. on Agatha with her beautiful Aubrey. Plaza like that are deciding to just. like be like mother and that feels like. you're being anointed which I'm like.

it's Ann Braftoft in the graduate like. that's what it feels like there's like a. cougary vibe yes instead but I also. think that there's kind of like a. cuz I don't I mean that's not who I am. but I guess it also means. like I don't No. What does What do you. think it means like teacher? I think. it's like a way Yes. It's like a way to. compliment someone's. wisdom and fortitude without making them. while still making them feel sexy. Yeah.

There's something that feels sexy about. it because it's very dom. It's very like. she will crush you. Like it's a little. bit like mother, right? Um, maybe you should have your Instagram. should have been you should have tried. to spell that out. But but also there's. a reverence to it like a respect. There's like a there's like a loving. respect. I I again someone else could. probably break down the etmology and. what it really means and we all know. where it comes back. It goes back to. like the houses and you know like all.

the queer culture back who are creating. their own community and family. I love. it. I It moves me so much. Me too. And. it's and it's it's just there's some. something that's happening right now I'm. noticing in real time where women our. age in our 50s in our business used to. kind of just be uh on the way out for. the most part. There were a few but a. lot of them were not really regarded by. young people as being vital Yes.

producers of things. Yeah. And that is. changing. It's kind of it is changing. I. never liked milk. I hated Mil. Me too. Why do we hate it? Well, because it's a. porn term probably by a lot of young by. a lot of young men that have a fetish. for [ __ ] older women. Yeah. I never. mothers. Yeah. And also I didn't like it. cuz it was like, "Oh, you'll still [ __ ]. them." Yes. Uh, let me check. Yeah. They. don't want to [ __ ] in.

I just checked. Gut check. Gut check. Butt check and gut check. Butt check. It's not happening for you, too. It's. like, "Oh, great." I know. It was like, well, I've had a couple mils and it's. like, oh god. Maybe we don't like it, too, because it sounds like milk. Yeah, maybe. Maybe because Yeah, but it's it. just feels like it's from the dude's. point of view in like a gross porny way. Yeah. Mother feels a little bit more uh. you respect it and it feels. more gay adjacent, queer adjacent. So,

it feels a little Yeah. Um, which I love. so much. I love it so much. I love the. very young queer women that are um felt. really like loved Agatha all along. Like. that was such a huge part of our. audience that was very very moving. I. mean, you were the first gay Marvel. kiss, right? I a queer Marvel kiss. I. don't know. I think I have a piece of. paper. Let me see. Yep. It's not on the Yeah. Oh, yes.

Yeah. Yeah, the first Marvel lesbian. kiss according to this paper that just. flew in. Hold on. It just floated down. From the sky. It's coming from the sky. Here we go. But yeah, that it's pretty. cool. Yeah, that's cool. Yeah, it's. cool. That's cool. And with Plaza, so it. just could not be cooler. I know. I. know. Our beautiful baby plaza. Um uh. what's going uh and I'm aware of the as. your as a therapist, I'm aware of the. time. It's 11:48. I am so fine with.

that. Okay, just letting you know cuz I. want to. persect you have a long press day and so. I know you have to do a lot of talking. but and you have to eat wings. You have. to you have to eat hot wings. I'm so. sorry I don't have wings. I know I. should be prepping before the my. diarrhea kicks in. Do that wings thing. and you have it and you're like no I. absolutely not. I because I hate milk so. I don't know how I'm going to do it. Be. a disaster for me. No, it's going to be. someone said peanut butter on toast. beforehand. Line your stomach. The. things we go through for purpose for no.

reason. What do we What do we have to. do? We have to line our. stomach. How did this How did this. happen? How are we now doing eating. spicy things? The sp and spicier and. spicier while being asked really. interesting really interesting. questions. Really great questions. But um but the. the way in which we're like I guess I. guess for this show I gotta have. diarrhea for four days for four days. Ring a fire. But I also there's.

something about it that I was like yes. because it just felt so um so unique. that it just is a really good example of. what we were talking about earlier like. you're like this is going to be fun. I'm. into it. You're into the the lack of. control. Yeah. And I'm like, am I going. to vomit? Am I going to I don't know. We. actually do that is actually Friday, but. I have a lot other stuff to but I am. So, I have a couple days to prep my.

stomach. It's like a colonoscopy. I have to start eating but like in. reverse cuz I think I got to line it as. thick as possible. So there's no way. like my throat down to my colon has to. just be lined with bread. Yogurt, peanut. butter, and just bread shoved in there. Show business, baby. Show business. That's what it's why we got into show. business. To do stuff like that, to just. eat weird hot stuff on camera for free.

For free. Um, but we were talking a. little bit about the like way in which. you're getting received like when you're. out in public. It's a little. overwhelming sometimes because of the. fandom of it all. Like there's you're in. a machine now that's bigger than maybe. some other ones. And we were kind of. talking about that feeling of like. having to take on other people's energy. And how do you balance the introversion. and extroversion part of what we do?

[Music]. Well, please excuse her. [Laughter]. [Music]. Okay. Oh god. Yeah, that's a good. answer. You know, we were talking about. hot ones for a while. You got all I need. a Pepsi. AC. Um, okay. Fans.

No, it's you know you're I mean Marvel. is a totally different machine and I am. so rarely recognized in my life like you. know I just walk out like I don't think. about it. So I'm like you know I had one. meal with Carrie Kenny Silver who I love. so much and she someone came up to our. table and was like sorry I have to tell. you I love you and I think it's so. hilarious you go out of the house. looking like. this. And I was like, "Oh, thank.

[Music]. you." Well, my thing is when people go, "Can I tell you who you look like?" And. I'm always like, "Please don't. It is. never going to be great. It's never. going to be great." Unless it's Scarjo. or something like, it's never. And it's. And it's also so It's always someone who. is at a hard 30 years older than who I. am, which is fine. But okay, so let's. talk about Philly Justice before we talk. about the studio and then we'll be done. Actually, one of the most the thing I'm.

almost the most proud of. Okay. Can you. explain to people what we're talking. about when we say Okay. When we were. there was a a bunch of the parks and. wreck actors. It was Paul, Rudd, you, Rashidita, Adam, and is that it? Yeah. me. Uh we. the the original picture that Philly. Justice was born out of was me, you, Rashidita, Adam, and Rudd. And it was we. had like businessy outfits on. I think. we were going to court or something or. like so all of us had like very.

businessy and I don't know whose idea. was it, but we took a um it was whose. idea was it? But we were all in like. kind of staggered stairs and what looked. like the front of like a very um you. know a courthouse. We we pretended we. were on a fake TV show in the '9s called. Philly Justice or the early 2000s and we. all crossed our arms. Then that became a. text chain where we started pretending. that we were we were just uh pretending.

we had been texting each other like as. the actors from it is the pilot going to. be picked up like we were going to do. like we were all very excited. It was. like a David Kellyesque show. So there. was like some cache. It wasn't like a. shitty show, right? Katherine is playing. like a a lawyer. Question mark. We don't. know. and um who has a has a very. tempestuous relationship with Angie. Martinez played by Rashidita Jones. And. we're not sure a lot of past lot I mean.

I think you guys are lovers. Amy, please excuse her. She knows not. what she's doing. like um Robert Durst. when he's guilty and he's he's every. time I sorry every time I bring up being. your lesbian tendencies you start. burping and we're. like okay um but uh I mean I remember. thinking I can't believe how lucky I am.

that I'm working with people who want to. also do this dumb thing. Yes. Like yes, fun dumb things to me are a love. language. That's a way like it's like. proves like safety. I guess that if. you're relaxed enough to do fun dumb. things, then you're in the right place. Yeah. And the more the older and older I. get, I feel like just want that. Yeah. Like nothing is that important, right? Um a great transition into your new show.

and the studio. But it is the studio is. fun though. It is fun. And you mentioned. Katherine O'Hara. Talk to us about the. show and the cast. I mean, Katherine. O'Hara, another goddess that I couldn't. believe. We've only have a couple scenes. in it, but I have gotten to know her. like through the press thing. And she. is, like we were saying, like what I. want to like that's how I want to grow. up. Yeah. Even though she's, you know, basically my aunt, but she um is I mean. on camera and not off camera, like just. such a hu a good egg. And it's Seth.

Rogan and Evan Goldberg. Seth stars in. it and um they both wrote all the. episodes and directed all the episodes. with like one shot. They're all like. wonders or some invisible scenes. Wow. I. know. But it's really incredible because. we rehearsed each scene like a play. Like we had to rehearse it a gazillion. times with the camera and then know when. the camera's going to be on you and know. like when to get out of the way for the. camera and still like try to keep eye. contact. It was a It was like a The. challenges were.

so fun and juicy and and also you knew. that if you [ __ ] up one line in it, you'd have to go back to the beginning. So like the tension of. everybody really added to the tension of. this fictional studio, Continental. Studios that Seth Rogan just became the. head of and trying to save it like it. can't keep it from the streamers and. also the like balance between art and. um money like blockb like he he's a.

lover of film that just wants to make. like you know Fox catcher all the time. and they're like, "You can't make it all. the time. You have to make a Kool-Aid. movie, you know?" So, it's like the the. tension between and it's Ike Baron Holtz. is in it who's freaking hilarious. He's. so good. Chase, Sweet Wonders, Peach, hilarious. And um Brian Cranston has a a. recording as the um the money guy on top. of the studio. And uh who do you play? I.

play um the market the head of. marketing. Your look is incredible. It is. incredible. And I feel like there's a. lot of humans in Hollywood that just. dress label to label. So, she's just. totally got a girl at Sachs who will. bring the [ __ ] to the office and she. tries it on at lunch. Has a tab running. tab at Sachs. Nice. And also probably um.

you know what is it? Delane that Do. Street Market a lot of like street. brands. She has big nails. I remember. that. Right. Long long nails. Yeah. And. no personal life. So, it's all filling. like a deep empty hole. Yes. That she. gets um that she just lives at her job. And is it thing or can we It's weekly. Okay. Great. I have to say overall I'm. enjoying a more weekly thing because I. feel like we binged too hard. I do too. Yeah. It gives me a headache and also.

makes me feel like a little bit sick. The binging is too much. It's too much. It's too much. And you lose the. Yeah. Swallowed it that time. I was. like, three. I can't do three on your. podcast. Three burps. Yes. What is wrong. with me? I just swallowed the rule of. threes. You have to do one more burp for. comedy. Maybe that was the third and it. was just I swallowed it and now it's. just a hot people I know that listen to. these things and they have a hard time. like with uh whatever it's called.

What's the um the word when you don't. like mouth sounds? Oh, uh misophonia. Misophonia where they don't like the the. the milky mouth sounds of people, which. I understand. I understand it. I The. worst is when you're talking to someone. and there's little white cream on the. creases of their mouth and then when. they talk you can hear like and you just. want to be like slide them a glass of. water. You want to slide them. And I. feel like this is the end of our. interview because where where are we. back? We're back to water. We're back to. water. How badly do you have to pee?

Not at all. I've been peeing this whole. time. Oh, right. Next time I'm going to. wear just I don't even know how it. works. If there's an adult diaper or. just a bucket. No, you just pee. The. thing people don't tell you about. podcasting, which I learned when I first. started. Yeah. You pee anytime. You just. pee in your seat. All the men you're. watching, they're constantly peeing just. underneath their table. Gross. There's a. stadium, buddy. Yeah. Or have you ever. seen the women's version of that? I have. it. Oh. The way you get it, my friend.

gave it. It's like a funnel because you. can be like, "So, it isn't like a. straight shot." Okay. Keep it in my car. Okay. I thought you like keep it in my. pants. I keep it I keep it in my bed. No, it's a it's a funnel that you I. suggest getting it. You're supposed to. use it for camping, but I have it for my. car because sometimes you're in traffic. and it's and it's a Oh, no. Like what? And I can you get that going while. you're driving a car? I have never I've. to be fair I've never actually used it. Oh. Oh, okay. But this knowing it's.

there. I know that you have a backup. Maybe also sometimes if there's a. questionable gas station restroom, I. would rather cop squat that I would. rather pull over and pee. I've done that. before. Go to a gas station. I've done. that definitely in places that um met. like the national parks where you like. open the small one. It's just a hole. Yeah. I just think I just I've just. pulled over and opened up my car door. and just peed. I think we all have. I mean, what are. you going to do? What are you going to.

do? Seriously, you can't No one wants a. UTI. And you can't be like a man and pee. in a bottle like a like Oh my god. Have. you ever been There's some streets in. New York City. I know this is getting. long, but there's some streets in New. York that are like the like the arteries. for getting off the bridges or whatever. that if you walk down it's like filled. Coke bottles with urine. Men are so. [ __ ] disgusting. Disgusting. But I. have to tell you, okay, last thing. Sometimes Sometimes I'm like, "Women, lift up the freaking seat." 100%. I'm. like, I have sat so many times on other.

women's urine. Women, you cannot pee on. the seat to protect your own germs. Like. you can't not sit on a toilet seat so. that I have to sit on the key. Yes. Lift. it up. It's disgusting. Also, if you're. really that weird about it, put toilet. paper on the seat. They have things for. you. They have things. Don't squat on. the seat, pee on it, and then leave. And. then leave. You know what? Women are. disgusting, too. Or wipe it off with a.

And you're like, I know you just tried. to wipe it off, but it's still there, [ __ ] You're talking to a gal who left. signs in a in a uh when I think it must. have been when I was at SNL. I was like, who is peeing on this seat? Yes. I was. like, "Hey, news flash. This is a. disaster for those that fall. A restroom. for a lot of women." Yeah. Well, last. thing, growing up in Cleveland, we had. faulty um what's it called? You know, when you flush a toilet plumbing.

ah age. But my dad had a sign above the. toilet that said poop flush wipe. flush cuz if you put the poop and the. and the toilet paper in there would. overflow immediately. Flush white flush. Poop flush white flush. I'm going to. leave you with that. Anyho, but I these. are I think these are important things. to say. They are. They are. They are. We. don't talk about it, but these are But. also just women lastly, lift up the seat.

name. You don't have to and You don't. have to lift. Yeah. Don't just sit on. the seat. Sit on it. Sit on it. If you. don't feel like sitting on it, lift it. Sit on the seats. Sit on the seat. What? Like, where are we? That's why they just. Where are we? You're so lucky to have a. seat. There's a lot of people that just. have to squat. If someone ran for like. Congress and their whole thing was sit. on the seat, they'd win. They'd win. They'd win. They would win. Sit on the. seat. I'm going to start making bumper.

stickers. Okay. the I'm asking I'm. asking a bunch of people cuz you love to. laugh and you have a great laugh. I'm. asking a bunch of people what are they. doing right now to make themselves. laugh? Like what is the thing you're. watching or doing or listening to? What. cracks you up? Um my dog really cracks. me up. He's such a little wenus. Everything. His name is Banjo and he's. such an idiot. He has a He's such a mut. and he has his tail that's always so. high. He's got a really aggressive.

[ __ ] and everything he does is so. stupid that he makes me laugh so hard. He's a dingo. Like everything he does. like he'll walk he'll get outside and. he'll like do laughs like back and forth. as fast as he can from one side of the. lawn to the other. He won't stop and he he'll just have he. has this corn cob that he can chew has a. sound in it and he'll just look at you. and be like like and you hear the this. horn going on for so long and so his. anxiety is funny. He has had a cone on.

for a third of his life because he. constantly is eating something or he'll. look at you like there's just blood. gushing out of his back leg like. banjo. He'll he licked the skin off of. his his own little paw cuz he just was. stressed out and then he keeps licking. it. So he's had to Yeah. So who would. play banjo in a movie if he was a human? Oh, it would be it would be He's got a. lot of um white male privilege. He is so.

blonde. It's not Patrick Schwarzenegger. cuz he's really great. Honestly, it's a. young Leo is really what it is. It's a. young Leo. It's a young Leo. It's like a. Yes. Uh uh maybe it's the kid from um. Baby Girl. What's his name? The The Yes. Right. His uh I don't know his name. [ __ ] We'll never We have a laptop. We. can't figure it out. Harris Dickinson. Harris Dickinson. Maybe it's a Harris Dickinson. Yeah. With a little more like I'll do whatever. you say, but I I can't I forgot it.

already. It's kind of like like that. His day focuses at 5:00. That's the only. thing he holds on to is dinner at 5. Everything else is chaos. Then all of a. sudden at 4:45 he's. like I love him so much. Good news. We. just got We just heard that Austin. Butler is excited to read for Banjo. Oh, okay. So, okay. Maybe I'll put him I'm. You're I'm curious to see his his I'd. love to see him read. I would love to. see him read. I'd love to see him read.

Can't wait to get the tape. Okay. Love. you. I love you so much. Okay. Thank you to Katherine Han, our. great hilarious friend. Man, that was so. fun. She's so funny. And she was. reminding us about dance parties, which. we used to have on the set of Parks and. Wreck. And I want to remind you, you can. always have your own. All you need is. three. songs, one other person, and uh and. and the the the want and need to have.

fun. So, uh do it now. Let's start with. Brass and Pocket by the Pretenders. Take. it slow. Warm up and. stretch. Then go to uh Red Wine. Supernova Chapel Rowan. Sing all the. lyrics really loudly and point to each. other. And then finish by going to the. club with uh a little Rihanna uh we. found love in a hopeless place and. pretend that you've lost your purse on.

the dance floor and run around. Three. songs is all you need to change your. day. Thank you guys so much for. listening to another episode. Um, thanks. for. hanging. You've been listening to Good. Hang. The executive producers for this. show are Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss. Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is. produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack. Wilson, Cat Spalain, Kaia McMullen, and. Aia Xanerys. For Paperkite production by.

Sam Green, Joel Levelvel, and Jenna. Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy. Miles.