Gwyneth Paltrow | Good Hang with Amy Poehler

Hello everyone. Welcome to another. episode of Good Hang. We have a great. guest today. It is the one, the only. Gwyneth Paltro. Gwyneth and I, we we get. into it. We're going to talk about a lot. of things. We're going to talk about um. codependency, um Bone Density. I mistake her for Nicole Kidman and um. and will never forget it for the rest of. my life. Um and and also we talk about. her new film Marty Supreme out now uh.

and her return to acting. So it's it's a. great conversation. Um and but you know. we always do this thing before our. guests come and join us where we talk. well behind their back and speak to. someone and get a question from them. And joining me via Zoom is the director. of Marty Supreme, Josh Safy. Josh uh has. made an a bunch of really amazing films. including Good Time with Robert Patson. and um Adam Sandler's Uncut Gems and. this is another you know big hit. So.

let's join Josh and see where he's uh. where he's talking to us from. Hi Josh. [music]. This episode of Good Hang is presented. by Nespresso. For those who never. compromise on their morning rituals, especially their coffee ritual, Nespresso's new virtuo up makes your. first cup irresistible. With a 3-se. secondond start, easy open lever, and. dedicated coffee creations mode button.

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>> Yeah, in the back of a kitchen. [laughter]. >> Where are you? Where are we talking to. you from? I'm in I'm in uh I'm doing. Grueling Press in London and I they. double booked me. They this was kind of. added late so I'm actually eating in the. kitchen. >> And I said can I do it? >> They said can I do it in the bathroom? And they said no cuz we need to have. access to the bathroom. I said do you. have anywhere that I can do it? So I. said the pastry thing because it's like. morning stuff. So they said it's pretty.

the traffic here is quite minimal. So, >> well, you know, as a director, it kind. of makes sense that there's some. interesting depth to this shot. >> Yeah. Yeah. I I hope so. I mean, I. actually am hoping that people There's. some really good pastries here. >> Yeah. >> Really? Like, look here. >> Let me see. Let me see. Oh, jeez. We got. a croissant. We got. >> Can you see that? >> Yeah. There's like a braided something. What is that? >> Hello. Sorry. [laughter].

Now there's someone coming to get the. pastries. >> Thank you. Thank you. >> listeners. Now the someone came behind. and are grabbing the pastries from. behind our set and we're going to need. those pastries in there for continuity. We got to get those pastries back. Josh. >> some more. So [laughter]. >> we haven't had a chance to meet you and. I am a huge huge fan of your films and. your work. >> Sorry. Wait listeners, there's another. person behind Josh getting some more.

pastries right now. This is amazing. [laughter]. >> Well, it's hard to make a good movie. Congratulations on making many. And this. movie seems awesome. And you you work. with Gwyneith and Timothy Shalamé, so. many other great people in your film. First of all, your casting is super. interesting. How do you approach. casting? You're like you have someone in. mind when you're writing or like h how. do you approach casting in general? Um I. for the mo I for most of the writing. process I try to think of somebody and.

write with their voice. So like casting. Gwennneth is reason why I wrote it for. her is like I have this memory of her. obviously she's was acting until pretty. recently but I have this memory of her. as like a teenager as like a kid in the. movies like you know obviously her. earlier like seven and and hard a PTA. and Fincher and my cinematographer shot. seven like those were like early like. you're into film you're like wow these. are so but then like talented Mr. Ripley. and Great Expectations and A Perfect.

Murder, amazing movie that she plays and. later Two Lovers by James Gray. I mean, she's talked about as a movie star who. hasn't acted in a long time immediately. And that I think for her also was really. really special um because it was it was. easy for her to tap into that, but she. like brought she's cool. She's like. >> like a boulder, but also a feather at. the same time. M. >> So, she's like she she brings that to. the movie in such a great way, but she. she sent to me right before we started.

shooting. I I I scheduled it so that the. first thing that we shot was um her. like acting on sta her character acting. on stage for the first time in 25 years. So, and she turns to me, she's like, I I. hope I remember how to do this. And it. was something so like this person I like. looked up to and one of my the greatest. actors and I just you know revered her. and now she's coming to me and she's so. vulnerable and it was so human. It was. so like perfect. It was so perfect.

That's the thing I think is so. interesting about Gwyneth is she. balances those two things like a lot of. real like self-awareness and self-. assuredness and confidence and then a. very open creative and vulnerable. quality. Both of them a lot and and I. really um I'm so interested in talking. to her about exactly that that moment in. your film. Can't wait to hear you guys. talk about. >> the moment in the film when she is on. stage and she kind of gets this glee. that she's great moment. Great moment.

>> Yeah. And and and you and it's shot so. beautifully and captured so beautifully. and it does feel like we're talking to. her in that moment when she's feeling. like I'm an actress again, whatever. And. do you ever even really stop? And to. your point, I mean, she is one of the. guests that I feel like is the most. projected upon. She is used to being. looked at, which is already hard a hard. thing. Like she she can withstand being. looked at. [laughter].

>> That's a hard thing. I can't. >> No, I I. >> I can't I like I got my wife and I got. married in at city hall partially. because I didn't want to like stand on a. aisle and get looked at. [laughter] And. she's like, as people say, she's got. that dog in her, you know, and she can. she's she's a lot. I mean, when I first. went to meet with her, I just kept. telling my agents, "Just just please. just get me in front of her." I was like. full on Marty. And I pull up to her. house and I go in and there's this thing. that Hollywood does that people don't.

Sorry. Um, >> but there's someone else coming for. croissant spot. >> Uh, [laughter] people people don't know. about this and it's something that I. like learned in Hollywood a little bit. later. It's like when you go and you. meet someone in particular, someone of. power, >> you go in and they have this trick that. they do. I'm sure you know about this. where you have the assistant or someone. they work with comes in after 15 minutes. and they say, "Oh, you know, we have. your next meeting is here. Do you want. me to push it or do you want me to like. do you want to, you know, jump now?" And.

they that's like a little thing is to. get them out of the meeting like this is. a hard one. I'm going to get out of it. And I saw her her assistant come in. after 15 minutes. It's like, "Oh man, that was so brief." And but it was we. were really connecting on the the. history of this character. She's like, "No, you know, just push it." I was. like, "All right, I'm in." And she. pushed it like four times. So when I. left, I was like, "I think I did it. I. think I like convinced her to do this. just based on the push rule." And. >> well, I know you are about to eat. And.

um there's nothing more st, you know, it's the first rule of directing. When. you have a croissant in the shot, you're. going to have to eat it by the end of. the of the. >> one of the ones with the little Look at. this over here. Look at this. >> Let's see what else we got. Josh is. directing us. Ooh. Oh, chocolatecovered. donuts. Um, okay. So, uh, to to finish. out, we I asked my guests, uh, my, uh, Zoom guests to give me a question for, uh, the guest I'm talking to today. Is. there anything big or small, you know,

important, non-important that you would. want to hear in this conversation with. me and her, or like you wanted to always. ask her or advice or thoughts or. anything that comes to mind? >> Oh, man. Uh, what did your son think of. the movie? beautiful because you guys. just had a premiere. He just saw it and. I spoke to him very briefly and he was. he felt. >> he like had this kind of high about him. but I didn't get to talk you know you. get pulled in all these directions but. um I wanted to talk to him more and his.

his name is Moses and the dog's name in. the movie is Moses [laughter] and Moses. Moses is the purveyor the moral he's the. moral purveyor so. >> I love that and also Josh I just find it. so awesome that you know as the movie is. coming out and it's getting these huge. reviews and it's it's out people are. getting to see it. You still care about. what people think of it, you know, like. it's it's important for you to hear how. it's. >> in the roomating in the room. I try not. to pay attention or read the stuff.

>> Well, I'm here to tell you like. >> Oh, THANK I HOPE IT'S A HIT, [screaming]. BABY. >> OH, THANKS. [laughter] You got a you. have a good meter on you, so that I'll. like think you're not bullshitting me. there. So, >> Oh, it's a hit. The kids love it. The. critics love it. Awards all day, babe. Get ready. I don't believe in jinxes. Thank you so much for your time. I can't. wait. Send me a photo of you eating any. baked goods that you get to get in that.

kitchen. >> Okay. I really hope the camera didn't. see me touching the food. [laughter]. >> Uh, thank you so much. >> Thank you so much for your time. Such a. pleasure. >> Have a good time talking to G. She's. She's It's like talking to a movie star. >> I I can't wait. Okay. Thanks so much, Josh. Appreciate. your time. Bye. >> This episode is brought to you by. Visible. Got a resolution to save? Kick. 2026 off right with Visible. It's a. oneline wireless plan with unlimited.

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mean, >> I feel like maybe. >> I feel like I need to come to you for. this advice. I I I'd love to I'd love to. see one off. >> I agree. [laughter]. What about that? >> I like that better. >> God, [laughter]. >> no. I'm thrilled that you took my. >> Oh god, these are the worst. Yeah, >> I felt like they're like these big. boingers. Like, [laughter]. >> why do I need to do that? >> And were they clipons? >> Yes. And they were really painful. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Thank you. >> Yeah. I don't think you need to boing it. up. No more boers.

>> No more boing big boingers on your ears. [laughter]. >> That's what we're saying for 2026. >> Hi. [screaming]. I'm so happy you're doing this. Thank. you for being here. >> I have not seen you in such a long time. >> No, I was trying to think. Um I feel. like the last time we may have seen each. other was Rob Low's 60th birthday party. >> The most incredible younglook. 60-year-old in the world. Rob Low. Incredible. >> It's all the plastic surgery. >> Yeah. Over and over and over again. >> Over and over. Um, I mean, and and I I.

feel like I I I got to see you briefly. there and sat next to your wonderful. husband and had a really good convo with. Brad, but um. >> yeah, that was it. But we didn't get to. >> We didn't. >> we didn't get a good hang. You know what. I mean? [laughter]. >> I'm very excited to talk to you today. >> Oh, thanks. >> Thanks for being here. >> Please lower your expectations. [laughter]. >> I do enjoy a low expectation, too. Um. but um I wanted to kind of start in the. present. You play this character and.

Marty Supreme who is coming back to. acting. >> Yeah. >> You are also doing that in a real way in. the film. You haven't been in a movie. for 10 years. Yeah. >> And there's this really beautiful moment. in the movie where the actress hears the. response and it's really cool and and. has this feeling of like just I don't. know joy of being doing something again. Did you feel that when you were making.

this movie? >> I did. I did feel it. I was so um. I don't know. It was like such a special. group. You know, sometimes you do a. project and you're like, "Oh, this feels. really special." You know, it feels like. it feels like we're making something. worthwhile. I don't know if people will. like it or not, but it's like a real. swing and everyone's great at their job. and. >> and so I was like, "Wow, I think I. missed this." You know, it was like it. really it it it felt so. >> I don't know like.

not pedestrian, like it felt very unique. and like special. So, we had this thing. where we talk to people uh behind their. back, well behind their back before they. come on. Oh boy. Okay. >> And we talked to Josh Safy. >> Amazing. >> And what was it like to work with him? What kind of director is he? What was. that experience like? >> It's just great. I mean, he's brilliant. and kinetic and. >> you know what I love about working with. him too is you never quite know what.

he's going for. >> So, you never totally relax. you know, you're like, "What is he. actually saying?" Like, "What what do I. or like he'll you'll do something one. way and then he'll. >> ask you to do the exact opposite and. then back to the first way." So, you're. like, "What do you want? What are we. going for?" And I think that's by. design, you know, to. >> sort of unearth something surprising or. very real or. >> do you like that when people keep you. challenged a little bit? >> Yeah.

>> Yeah, >> I do. Like, >> cuz it's like a trust that they feel. like you can handle it. as long as I. think they're a good director. >> Right. [laughter]. >> Right. >> Right. Because when someone's doing when. you're. >> I'm sure you've had this happen. There's. no worse feeling in any job that you do, anywhere where you show up where you're. like, uhoh, the person in charge is not. ready or. >> Yeah. Good. >> It's just I think what happens as an. actor on that set is you. become risk averse. Mhm.

>> They're like, "I'm not going to go too. far out on a limb here cuz I don't know. if I'm in safe hands or not.". >> Are you the kind of person that would. take over a situation if there wasn't a. good captain? No. >> I mean, I would like in the AD. department. I do anyway. I'm like, "Guys, come on. Let's go. What are we. doing?". >> Me, too. I'm I actually It's actually. like a problem I have to work on, which. is like stop trying to shape the day, >> right? I mean, I just like I think. >> I have an efficiency issue, you know, and.

>> like when I I think what also really. messed me up was when I went to go do. Glee and I saw how much they got done in. one day. >> TV is incredible. It's a machine. >> It's like you are never sitting there. We work all day. Everything's so quick. >> You leave the set and you're like, "Oh. my god, we accomplished so much.". >> You know, we're like on a Marvel movie. You're like in your trailer for. [laughter] 14 hours. >> I know. And and and for and then even. take take TV and then go to SNL which is.

emergency room which is like we need. something tomorrow. >> No problem. And then in films it's like. 6 months out and they're like we can't. do it anyone going to come and get me. [laughter]. >> I'm going to die. >> I'm going to die in my trailer. >> You know time is really weird. >> It's weird. >> Yeah. Like time is your currency. like. that's the only thing that's important. left. >> That's right. And we're not getting. they're not making any more of it. >> So Josh was so so and and he said. something very sweet like his question.

um for you which is is such a director's. question and such a question from a. director whose film has just come out is. what did your son think of the movie? He. wanted to know what Moses thought of the. movie. >> That's so sweet. He loved the movie. Yeah, >> he was I mean he I after the screening. when I saw him I said he's like it it. was incredible. It was I mean I had to. kind of watch like this because there's. some kissing. >> Sure. >> So that he was not a big fan of. >> but other than that he loved it. >> So many people project so much stuff on.

you Gwennneth. Like you get so much. stuff projected on you. And. >> you spoke uh at the Hollywood Reporter. event. you were receiving an award, the. Sher Lanc Singh um woman leadership. leadership award and you spoke really. beautifully about it about this idea of. versions of ourselves because I do think. that every woman every everyone man. woman understands that like. >> hopefully if you're doing some work and. you're having some life experience you. keep kind of shedding stuff and figuring. out things about yourself and having.

those versions kind of be out in the. world is really difficult because people. get to have opinions about it but. everybody understands that feeling. Yeah. >> Okay. With that in mind, I want to go to. like the tiny doll, the the little. Gwyneth because. >> I I kind of I I know people that knew. you when you were little. >> You sure do. >> You know, um Maya Rudolph went to. elementary school with you. >> Um what do you remember about being with. her when when you two were little little. people? >> Well, our fathers were best friends from.

Two Lane University. >> Wow. And so Maya came to our elementary. school right after her mother died, unfortunately. And I remember my dad saying, "Oh, my. friends, you know, daughter's coming.". >> And we just became great friends since 7. years old. >> Yeah. Um, you know, I think our our. senses of humor really developed. together. >> with, you know, our other best friend. and or a couple of them and then they.

all went to high school together. I. moved to New York, but um stayed close. with them forever and ever. >> It must be nice to have Dick Rudolph, Maya's amazing dad in your life, too, because he knows so much about your dad. who passed. Like to have somebody who. knew your dad when that's always. important, right? >> It's so important. It's like it conjures. them again, you know, when they're in. the room, they they talk about him and. then it's like all of a sudden you feel. the person. It's so nice. >> So then you go to New York, you go to.

Spence. What kind of high school like. what who are what are you like in high. school? Are you confident? >> I think I So I I we moved to New York. City when I started seventh grade. M I. was coming from California, you know, so. I was like a very rare bird. >> And um middle school is so brutal. >> I know. It's. >> It's so tender. It's very tender. >> It's like scarring for life. I think. >> it is. And it's very um Everybody's.

trying on a lot of things. Like maybe. I'm emo, maybe. >> maybe I like I only talk to animals, >> right? [laughter] I was trying all kinds. of things. >> How old were you when you did your Was. Heart Your first film with PTA? >> No, my first film I was. probably 18, something like that. I had. a few films where I had like one line, >> you know. Um, >> it's sometimes it's hard to have one. line. I know.

>> cuz there's a lot of pressure. >> and you're like in the mirror saying. your one line and [laughter] saying it. again. >> Did you ever get fired from a job? I got. f I got fired from like I worked in. Madison Avenue at a toy store and I got. fired. But you mean like a movie job? >> Why did you get fired from the toy. store? Do you remember? >> Oh, because I was work My parents always. made my brother and I have jobs after. school. And so I didn't know that like. Oh, every everyone doesn't just go on. spring break like people [laughter] have. jobs.

So I went on spring break and then you. didn't tell anybody. And then I came back and I remember the. look on the woman's face. She's like, >> "Where are you?" She was like, "No toys. were sold.". >> She's like, "You, this is not how life. works." She's like, "You You're you're. done here." I was so crushed. >> Oh, yeah. >> I was like 12. It was really It was. brutal. [laughter]. >> 12. >> I should have sued her for child labor. law violations. [laughter]. Um, >> yeah. But anyway, I I feel like I got I.

did get, you know, I was supposed to do. a movie at at one point where. and it was like right after the kind of. conscious uncoupling thing with Chris. and there was like a lot of a lot of. harsh stuff in the press. >> and I think the distributor was like. this might be too. >> too hot to touch. >> Interesting. They were like we don't. need the heat. >> Yeah. Interesting. >> So that was great because I was getting.

a divorce and then [laughter] I got. fired off and it was so awesome. >> You were like, "Oh, sorry that my. divorce is bothering you.". >> Yeah. Sorry. >> I mean, if I can stay there for a. second, boy. Uh, [clears throat] you. were ahead of your time. >> Yeah. >> You really were. >> Uh, because you did, >> which is good and bad. [laughter]. >> I know it's not probably not easy. I. think you've been in that position. before. But you you like you gave a word. you g and it wasn't your term. It was a. term you were talking about. >> Yes. >> Uh to to like bracket this idea that if.

you want to you can try to make um the. dissolution of a marriage be one that. isn't. >> deeply painful. You can try your best. You can have all the feelings, but you. can still try together to make like a. conscious effort to do that. >> That's what you were talking about. And. it's really interesting that people had. such big reactions to that. >> Huge. Because I think like say you had.

had a really nasty divorce. >> or your parents had had a really nasty. divorce. >> and then you hear this idea that like. you don't h it doesn't have to be done. this way. I think the implicit learning. is like, "Oh, fuck." Like, they're. saying I did something wrong. Like, >> and which of course was not the. intention, but I think of course that I. mean that makes sense to me. Like, >> oh no, like is is the inference that I.

messed someone up. Like that's not a. nice thing to contemplate. >> So, I do understand why it was so. personal for people cuz it was like you. only get see that kind of reaction. >> when it's personal. So true. And I think. too, you know, we all we're all like. when we're defensive. >> Yeah. >> about anything, it's saying a lot about. about something. >> And when we're hurt, we we say things we. don't mean, you know, we get angry, we. respond. Like that's human. That's. humanity. >> Yeah. Comedy is a little bit interesting.

in this way too, which is like what we. ridicule, like what we make fun of says. so much about us. like what we laugh at. makes it so much what we think is. >> and. >> it's it's it tells on you like it really. tells on you totally. >> Um. >> you reveal yourself. >> You do. Um and I have to say I've always. really admired your sense of humor about. people's reactions to things like you. have to you have to kind of have it. And. we got to experience I mean we we I got.

to like do SNL with you and see how. funny you were and it was really fun. We. did have fun. I was just thinking today. about the stuff that we did together. >> Do you remember? >> I was thinking about that [laughter]. >> I was thinking about that sketch we did. where Will played our dad and we were. like our angry dad. >> and we were like gangster teenagers like. thinking we were we gangsters. >> Yeah. Like I think the joke of the scene. was we just quietly ate dinner. We were. like scraping.

>> Yeah. We would we would like have an. outburst and then go back to like. quietly eating like awkward teenagers. with the family. The second time I was. definitely less nervous. The third time. I was. >> Yeah. I feel like I got to sort of enjoy. it and it was fun to like. >> meet different incarnations of the cast. and stuff and like I think I was on like. Jimmy's first season. >> I know there was a sketch with you and. Dr. and Jimmy when they used to do like. Sully and Denise like Boston teens. >> They were at the prom.

>> Oh my god. That's right. I totally. forgot about that. >> Yeah. And you did a pretty good Boston. accent, I have to say. >> Thank you. >> It's not easy. >> It isn't easy. And now I married a guy. from Boston. So. >> does he does he I mean Bostononians are. really picky about the Boston accent, you know. >> Well, there's different kinds. There's. sort of the Petrician one and then. there's. >> which is pretty much gone. Kennedy one. is kind of gone. >> and the there's just like kind of your. local. >> Dunkin Donuts doesn't have. >> really a Boston accent except like on o.

words like he's like stock. >> he says yeah you can just like it's like. very. >> Oh that's nice he's like socks it's. [laughter] just subtle but it's there. >> totally socks. I get it when I get a little angry or a. little tired. >> you do I had a a hard time when I would. do parks and wreck with the word um I. still have a hard time with it. Government. >> How do you say it in. >> because I want to say government, >> right? >> Like I want to go I want to skip over.

the e rn. I want to get rid of the r. >> Yeah, get rid of it. >> Yeah, who cares? >> Who cares? Say it your way. [laughter]. >> Okay. You You're an actress. You do 15. movies in 5 years. >> Wow. That's psycho. [laughter]. >> I mean, babe, >> that's problematic. >> How did you do that? >> I have no idea. [laughter] It's probably. why I quit for 10 years afterwards.

>> I was like, "No, I'm not doing that.". >> No. 15 years. >> That's insane. >> I know. Can you imagine? I just like but. like this sort of touches back on what. we were talking about which is. >> I didn't feel like I knew myself and had. the agency to say yeah no I I I felt. like I better just keep going and going. and going and I didn't bring a lot of. strategy to it. >> you know. >> Yeah. Well, you don't know what you. don't know. Like we can't be tough on. ourselves. We were you know you're.

trying to figure out especially in your. 20s. I mean your 20s is I think a really. difficult decade. >> Oh my gosh. It really is. >> It is. >> Then there's so it's just you don't know. at all who you are. >> If there's a problem, do you like people. how do you like people telling you about. a problem? Let's say. um I'll make up a problem. Like let's. say someone uh isn't isn't going to show. up for something that you want to do. Like you're you're scheduled to do. something and it's not going to happen. How do you like being told about the.

problem? >> Just straight up. >> Yeah, that's what I suspect. >> I don't want to preamble. I don't want. you to soften the language. Just be. direct. >> Same. A direct approach. It's always And. and are you direct with other people? >> Yes. Now I am. >> And. >> I didn't used to be. >> Do they Do you What do you do when you. notice that your directness. makes them uncomfortable? What do you do. with their uncomfortable feeling? >> Yes. Well, I'm a recovering codependent.

>> So, I used to. do anything and everything not to say. the thing that would make the waters. choppy. >> Mhm. >> And then I realized how many more. problems I caused. Like real problems, you know? >> I so relate. Can you say more about. this? >> Yeah. Like I [laughter] think. when you don't say what needs to be said. in the moment to spare somebody else's. feelings, first of all, like you're. rejecting the truest part of yourself. >> Mhm. >> And then it's going to come out another.

way. And that's like you'll end up being. dishonest. You'll end up not saying what. needs to be said. You'll end up. stringing out some lame relationship for. eight extra months and treating them not. so nicely because you have stuck. yourself in something, you know, you. just make a mess. >> Yeah. So, I think around the time I turned 40 is. when I started to move into this like I. really need to stop doing this. And I. worked with a coach. >> on how to hold the uncomfortable.

feelings of somebody else and. disappointing somebody else. I really. had a problem with it with men. Like. when I worked with men, really hard time. disappointing them. >> um or saying something that wasn't. aligned with their version of things. and and now um I don't know and then. it's so self-honoring when you just. speak the truth and you can do it very. kindly. >> like and it's also not your. responsibility to take care of. somebody's feelings when you've simply.

said the truth. >> it's a huge and not just women everyone. needs to learn it but especially when. you learn as a woman our age. that people are responsible for their. own feelings it sounds like a very. simple thing but it's very very hard to. learn. >> Yep. Yep. Yep. YEP. [screaming]. [screaming]. >> Now that you're in a new film, like are. you able to look back at some of the. films that you've been in and see like.

be kinder to yourself about stuff? Like. are you able to be a little bit sweeter. to yourself about anything? Yeah, I mean. I think. as far as the work is concerned, I think. now that I had such a long break and. things have changed and. >> you know it's like now I'm like the. venerable old, you know, you know what I. mean? And like I did this interview with. Jacob Allerty the other day and he was. like, "You've done this and this." And. I'm like, "Fuck, I'm old as hell." Like.

>> it's so weird. People are like, "My mom, I remember my mom loves you." [gasps]. When my mom was in high school, she. loved SNL. Oh my god. >> Can I get a selfie for my mom? [laughter] Like, how old am I? Like, um, but I I do think that, you know, there's. there's been a bit of a It's so. interesting because now I'm like, "Oh, yeah." Like, I did these things that. now, you know, at the time you don't. think that they're going to be. >> Yeah. >> whatever. And then it's like, you know,

people send you 10 pictures every. Halloween of Margot Tenon Bomb costumes. or like people say like, "Oh god, I had. a sliding doors moment where I X, Y, and. Z." You know what I mean? It's like, >> yes. Cultural things that stuck. >> Yes. Exactly. And and I and oh, I worked. with this great director in his first. film and this one and his second, this. one is first. I'm like, yeah, cool. Like, I did do that stuff. That's neat. you know, and it feels like. >> for the first time, I'm able to feel the.

impact of the work that I did earlier in. my life. >> Okay, so with that in mind, I'm going to. do a quick speed round with you about. your movies. >> cuz you've been in so many. >> and I feel like you've talked about them. forever, >> but here we go with speed round. Shakespeare and love. >> Uh, what words help you get into a. British accent? um. you know it's like the vowels like you. sort of have to change the placement of. the vowels like so any any words like um.

uh the a's the o's and and words like. perfect. >> cold mountain how cold was the mountain. >> I wasn't in cold mountain. >> oh forget it then. >> but thanks for thinking I'm Nicole. Kidman bonus [laughter]. Wait, why did I bonus? >> I don't know, but I'm so happy shut. What was it like working with your. husband, Tom Cruz? >> Oh, he was hot. >> Yeah, I bet. Iron Man. Um, is there a.

lot of waiting around? You answered. that. That was my question. Is is there. a lot of waiting around on Iron Man? >> So much waiting. [snorts]. >> Crafty must be good. Marvel Crafty must. be insane. >> I don't know. >> Oh, interesting. They cheap out on. >> You know what I have to say? I think. like I think. snack foods can be dangerous. >> and snacking is like at least I I know. for me is completely emotional. >> Yeah, >> completely emotional.

>> Yeah, it is, isn't it? >> Yeah. It's just like if you're not. having a cigarette or you're going for. >> those were the days. >> I know. Remember cigarettes? [gasps and sighs]. >> We talk about it here and we know. they're very bad for you, but God. >> God, >> you came up with such a great time. I. know, man. I. >> I know. >> You know what I decided when I'm like. 87? I'm going to start smoking again. >> Fantastic. I mean, I remember when we. were in the 2000s when there was a lot. of that. And then also, you were the. first person to say the word macrobiotic.

>> biotic diet. You were on a macrobiotic. diet. >> Yeah, that was that was a great phase. where it was like cigarettes and tofu. with the brown rice and the seaweed. Like I don't know what I was [gasps]. >> just cleaning your house while it's on. fire kind of thing. Exactly. >> Yeah. Okay. Um sliding doors. You you. mentioned it. Do you ride the subway? >> Do I ride the subway? Yeah. I mean I. haven't in a while because I don't live. in New York City anymore, but when I. did, I took it all the time. >> Go pretty incognito. Like do you feel. like you can kind of blend?

>> Yeah, I feel Don't you feel like New. Yorkers are just they don't care? >> Yeah. Uh Contagion. Was it weird that. everybody was watching it during the. pandemic? Yes, >> everyone was watching it. >> I know. >> Everyone got really into dark [ __ ]. >> I know. >> And it's like they wanted to see. >> you dying from. >> I know. [laughter]. >> Your character. Your character. >> It was very It was. >> weird. >> I know. >> Um, royal tenon bombs.

Halloween costume. >> Yeah. [gasps]. >> And so much more. >> And so much more. You're smiling. What's. your. >> I just love I really love that movie. >> Yeah. That's a great movie. >> And I had such a good time making the. movie. >> Yeah. >> Such a cool charact. She's so cool. >> She's so cool. She's so cool. >> I know. With her wooden finger. >> I know. >> Her cigar. Talk about cigarettes. >> I know. And I had quit smoking and then. I had to smoke in the movie and. >> and you were like, "Oopsy.". >> I was like, "I guess I smoke again.".

[laughter]. >> That um fur coat. Whose idea was that. the. >> costume? It's all Wes. Wes Wes Wes knows. every how he wants every. >> single. prop and costume and everything. He's so. wonderfully specific. >> I loved that. Like I loved stepping into. this drawing, you know, of his. >> Yeah, that's what it felt like. It's so. cool. Talented [snorts] Mr. Ripley, did. you speaking of clothes, did you have. use any of your own clothes in that film.

or did you keep any of the You're so. >> I should have kept some. You know, I. should have kept some I wish I had kept. a couple like one souvenir from every. movie, >> but I never thought to do that at the. time. I. >> I. Annne Roth, who's like the most. legendary costume designer, did that. movie and um so she was just so amazing. Oh, I love those costumes so much. >> But legendary costume designers can also. be really intimidating. Like they. because they they don't let you keep. anything. >> That's true. >> View from the top. Do flight attendants.

talk to you about that? >> They do. [laughter]. >> Yeah. That's the that's the that's the best. part of having done that movie. >> Do you ever think about like a fantasy. other job you would do? Would there be a. job like it whether it's flight. attendant or like where you would feel. like you'd be good at it? >> I would like to be a chef if I wasn't. like I think I could have done that. Well, >> I love cooking and food and. >> Yeah, that that would be I I could have. like a little restaurant somewhere, >> you know?

>> Um a hook. >> Yeah. >> Robin Williams. Oh my gosh. I I didn't. get to do. >> I thought you were just about to say I. wasn't in hook. >> No, I was panicking. [laughter]. >> Panicking. Don't Don't think I will. forever. think all my whole life that I said you. were in Cold Mountain. >> What? >> I just want you to know. >> this is an honest mistake. I mean, >> Nicole Kidman and I are very [laughter]. >> interchangeable. Thank you very much. >> But Hook, did you work with Robin? No, I.

didn't. >> Did you get to know him? >> You know, I only got to know him a bit. when Goodwill Hunting came out because I. was dating one of the people who wrote. that movie and was in that movie. >> We're well aware [snorts]. >> and um so I got to know him then. >> So you guys were dating during Goodwill. Hunting. Fantastic Boston movie. >> after. >> Okay. >> But when it was coming out. >> and so he was around for that press and. stuff. Yeah. He's so good in that movie. That movie really is.

>> I love that movie. It's a perfect movie. >> I agree. It's a fantastic movie and it's. so um uh it's so uh uh like rainy day. movie. It's like a rainy day. >> And the um and um. >> Elliot Smith who did all the music and. Gus like it's just perfect. I love it so. much. >> What's a rainy day? If what's a movie. that when it comes on you're like. jackpot I'm going to watch it. like a. rainy day,

>> you know, a plane movie, something if. you're like, I gotta watch. >> I like like all the 80s movies, you. know, >> like like Santa almost fire. >> I will never not watch that if it's on. >> I, you know, getting back to Roblo. >> Mhm. >> Rolo as we called him on set. I would. just sometimes like sit there. >> always [laughter]. he loves and he's never had a he's never. really had a nickname he said. And the. best thing is it like didn't spread as. much as you guys tried to make it a.

thing. [laughter]. >> We all call him Rolo because it didn't. go outside. >> You know what I mean? And he really I. think wants it to go outside. >> Of course he's he's like I've never had. a nickname. >> I know. He loves it. >> I remember like the first day on set me. saying no. It was his birthday and he. was shooting on his birthday and I was. like oh have you ever been on set for. your birthday and he was like yes like. 400 times. And I was like, "Right, you've had a long career." Um, Sando's. Fire, Billy, >> Rolo as Billy,

>> as Billy, bad boy. Can't change him. >> Heaven. >> Heaven. >> He was never my celebrity crush. >> Who was? >> I mean, well, Keanu Reeves was my first. like real, >> but when I watched St. Almost Far, like. I wanted to like I would have gone with. Jud Nelson. >> Oh, interesting. You wanted the more. professional. Yeah. Billy was too happy, >> you know, really like smart and cheater. Like that was my type. [laughter]. >> Yeah.

>> Also, when you rewatch that movie, it's. like everyone is so dressed so. professionally. I know. Like every we. really did dress like we were when we. were in our 20s, we dressed like we were. 60 year olds. >> Yeah. The ' 80s was And it's happening. again now. you know, like not the Wall. Street thing, but sort of like this. sort of grandma chic, like all the all. the hipster cool kids are sort of, you. know, it's like the soft everything's. soft shoulders and knitted things and. >> I got a quarter zip just for this.

interview, so you tell me. >> It's looking really good. >> Thank you so much. You're welcome. >> Um, >> okay. And Han, both Han, you brought up. Rashidita. Both Rashidita and Han love. you and talk about how fun it is to hang. with you and and how. >> like they both, you know, and and. they're I think representative of a lot. of people who kind of want to know what. you think about things cuz they trust. your style. They trust your what you. said like the work you try to do to.

figure out what is the best thing of. things. And it's not even about the. things. It's just like, is there someone. who's keeping an eye out? Um, keeping an. eye out and figuring out like, is there. a better way to do something? >> You love that. >> Love that. >> Where do you think that comes from? >> I think I'm an enog one. >> Okay, jackpot. Here we go. >> So, like I'm always trying to improve. everything. >> Great. So, for people, I don't know. anyone who's listened to this who.

hasn't. Hopefully, >> what is anagram one? How would you. describe? >> Are you into the enagram thing? >> Very much. >> Again. >> Okay. Do you want to guess my number? Nobody ever gets it right. >> Oh god. >> Here we go. >> I'm always I always get the wrong I. always people guess the wrong number. which saddens me cuz I love Can I ask. Yes. Ask. >> ask some questions. >> please. >> Okay. Like how would you describe. yourself as someone who really enjoys a.

dinner party? Yes. >> Okay. Would you. describe yourself as somebody who is. very focused on achieving? >> Yes. >> Are you a a peacemaker? >> No. >> You're talking about three, you're. talking about nine. I'm neither one of. those. >> I know. That's what I just gleaned. >> Yeah. [laughter]. Um, so how.

>> I have a Peacemaker. wing. >> Okay. Ah, so you're a one. You're not a. one with a two wing. >> Okay. >> You're not an eight. >> Yes, >> you are. Okay. You're an eight. I know. this. >> You're an eight. >> I am an eight. >> You're an eight with a nine wing. >> Yes. So I'm not a monster, right? Cuz I. got a little peacemaker in me. But I'm a. I'm the ch I'm a challenger. >> Okay.

>> And I and it's I I I think I hide it. But I definitely relate to all of that. feeling of like. >> authority stuff and challenging a little. bit and wanting to lead and want and. feeling very happy with direct people. Like I'm I I'm like you. Like I really. like when people tell me the truth and. are direct. I can handle it all day. long. >> Wow. >> But when people come sideways I'm like. what's going on? >> Yeah. It's such a bad icky feeling. >> bad feeling. And I love anyagram ones. because ones. >> are on it.

>> Yeah, we're on it. >> And they believe in like getting it. right. They're the hardest on. themselves. >> Oh yeah, >> they are really hard on themselves. Um. >> we are trying to make things better, right? We're the reformer. >> So you're always and I've always been. like refining to figure out what is a. better way to get efficient like to do. like. >> Yeah. to improve yourself, to feel. contentment, >> to you know reduce inflammation, to be a.

good partner, to be a good divorce. person. >> Yeah. Okay. So, with your striving for. perfection in mind, I have another one. more speed round. >> Oh, >> okay. >> Perfection speed round. >> Here we go. Make it perfect. [laughter]. >> Um, cold plunge. A lot of controversy. about whether or not it's right for. women. I said that I do it and there. were a lot of comments saying it's not. good for women. Do you do it? Do you. like to do it? How do you feel about it? >> Uh I do do it more sparingly like my. husband does it every single day.

>> So I spent a lot of time researching. this and what I think I understand that. the net net of it is cold plunging is. not unilaterally terrible for women. But. we kind of need to listen to ourselves. and maybe not the water quite as cold as. the men. >> like that. >> Maybe not quite as long as the men. >> Um, and you know to just be mindful of. where where we are, you know, if we're. exhausted and you know cuz it can be.

quite taxing on the body. But it's still. there are still benefits for us. >> Speaking of temperature, what do you. like for your sleeping temperature? >> Well, the older I get, the colder I like. it. >> Me, too. Um, I like, you know, in the. 60s. >> Yeah, me too. >> I love it. >> Crazy. [laughter]. >> Alcohol after 50. >> Oh, why did they have to ruin it for us? >> I know. It's like It's a dis It's a. disaster. >> It's such a bummer.

>> Coffee? >> Yes, big time. I'm a big coffee drinker. >> Uh, how do you how do you drink your. coffee? >> With he raw heavy cream. >> What? >> I know. >> Shocked. I know. >> that's very New York of you and not. California. >> I know. I know. Good job. >> I'm I'm like the alt I'm not the alt. milk queen. >> Yeah, same. >> Yeah. Oh, do you have regular milk? >> I have cow milk. >> I have half and half. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> No shame in it. >> But I don't really do coffee. I do tea. >> Oh, >> because coffee is a little.

>> very English. >> Okay. Lemon water. >> Love it. >> Great. Bone density. What are we gonna. do about it? We are gonna we're gonna, you know, talk to our doctor about. potential estrogen supplementation. >> Totally. >> We're gonna do heavy weights. >> Yes. >> Lots of heavy weights. >> Are you doing heavy weights? >> Yeah. I do it on this giant really heavy. Pilates reformer thing called the Lree. >> And fantastic. That seems to be good.

right now. >> Yeah. Reformer. >> It's called the Lree. It's very, very. good. And we're gonna gag down protein. 70 times a day. [laughter]. >> Bone broth. Has that come and gone? >> Bone broth is great. I still I still. like bone broth. I. >> I I think it's it's fantastic for your. gut. It's full of protein and collagen, all the things. >> For some reason, people thought I I only. drank bone broth. That I I'm but I I'll.

have it as like a cup of tea in the. afternoon. >> That's my favorite way to have it. Interesting. Uh, sleep routine. Talk me. through it. >> Okay. So, I have to take a bath every. night. And. >> Wow. >> Yeah. Have to. Non-negotiable. >> Interesting. >> And if there's not a bathtub, then I. have to shower. Like, I got to get the. day off with water. And I think part of. my good sleep routine is eating dinner. early. So, not going to bed on a full. stomach. >> Yes. What time do you like to eat. dinner? >> I like it at 6:00.

>> Okay. Me, too. [laughter]. I make my reservations at 6:00 p.m. >> So do I. >> I love it so much. >> So great. >> And I honestly sometimes I like to be. the first person in the restaurant. [laughter]. >> I I was last night. >> Mhm. >> I did 5:45 last night. >> Incredible. >> I know. >> To be in bed and have eaten by 8:00. >> Is there anything better? >> No. I think about bedtime all day. >> Me, too. >> I love it so much. >> Me, too. So much. And then Brad and I. usually watch something in bed, which I. know you're not supposed to do.

I know. But, you know, it's so deeply. relaxing to me. Like, get in there in a. cold room and like watch some serial. killer [laughter] doing something. So great. >> And then, you know, go to sleep and then. >> Oh, I have mouth tape and earplugs. >> Mouth tape. >> Yeah, I'm big into the mouth tape. >> I know that's controversial, too. Mouth. tape because there's a whole mouth tape. movement. There's pro. There's But but. mouth tape is helpful. Do Are you a. grinder? I'm a grinder. So, it's helpful.

for me. Also, I really believe that. there's no oneizefits-all solution. Like, we're all so different. Totally. We have such different genetics, different phenotypes, different. >> tolerances, allergies, toxic loads. Like, we're all This idea that one thing. works for everyone, I think, is not. true. >> See, this is why we love you, Gwyneith. You It's true. You just said all this. stuff and it was like. you're. you are not selfish. You are not a.

gatekeeper. >> No, that I am not. >> You're like, I'm trying this. Would you. like to try this? I don't think this. works, but who knows? You are It's. interesting. It's kind of like the the. um. >> even though you're maybe consider. yourself a person who's trying to get it. right, you're not afraid to like try and. fail with things and you share it with. us. For sure. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I I believe in. >> I mean also because I'm such a. researcher and such a guinea pig like I. want to share.

>> I want to share the learnings. Then take. it or leave it. >> Okay. And then the last thing I'm going. to ask you about is um what is making. you laugh? >> So the thing that's made me laugh the. hardest in like the past year. >> Mhm. When was the SNL thing that I lazily did. not go to? Cuz I. >> You didn't go to the SNL 50th? No. Wow. What? >> I know. It was a mistake and I regret. it. So, I just want to say that out. loud. >> You were like, "Oh, that's You just. thought like. >> I was like, that's I'll wait another 50.

years." [laughter]. [laughter]. >> I was like, "It seems like I I had so. much work at the time. >> It's going to be hectic.". >> And I was like, "I got to go all the way. to New York." I had something the next. day so I just couldn't go. >> But I watched the. thing at um Radio City or whatever. What. was the night before thing? >> Yes. Incredible music show the night. before. [laughter]. >> Wait, what are you going to say? I love. it. I don't know. I'm going to I'm going.

to try to. >> When Anna and Will. >> Yes. >> did the church thing. >> I talked to Anna about it. Bobby and. Marty. >> Did you write that? >> I wish. No. Paul, the great Paula Pel, >> incredible writer on SNL and performer. and Anna and Will do these Bobby and. Marty cult. >> I I and she started singing Kendrick. Lamar. [laughter]. >> Yes. And what Anna said which was so. incredible is.

I got to tell you something and I I. think I said this Anna but I just want. to extrapolate for a second about it. To. me, it was so it was like such a win for. the comedy kids because it was such a. cool night. They literally followed. Lauren Hill. They came on after Lauren. Hill and their job was to settle. everybody. [laughter]. >> They had to go like, "We're going to. wait. We're going to wait until you stop. talking. Quiet." They kept telling. everyone to be quiet. And it was so to.

me that's like that I don't know what. brand of comedy you call that but it's. like that funny bones. >> where what what what was the Kendrick. Lamar song? She's like um Oh, we got we. got to look at it for a second. It was. what was it? [laughter]. What was it? >> Please. >> Yeah, let's just watch it and I hope we. can get it on like it's the 50th SNL. It. was like on Hulu or something like that. >> Here we go. >> Honestly, I.

[laughter]. [laughter]. >> [laughter]. >> commitment. I'm sorry. >> I know the commitment. >> kind of humor. What do you call that? I'm sweating. >> Like real. To me, what I would call. that, honestly, it's a great question. To me, I would call it like committed.

[laughter]. Spit take. We got a spit take. Our first one. [laughter]. We know our first spit take on Good Hang. and it's Quinn. [laughter]. It's all over my skirt. >> Here we go. Here's some tiss Good hang. tissues. [laughter].

[laughter] I can't breathe. It's so. funny. >> Wait, let's play it again. >> [laughter]. >> I'm sweating. I'm dying. [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Oh my god. Okay, so that's called sketch. comedy. [laughter]. >> I need a fan. >> We're having a hot flash. >> Oh my god. >> I'm the one in the quarter zip. >> A sketch comedy induced hot flash.

>> Yes. I feel like what you're talking. about is real, which is I feel like it. is commitment. It's commitment. Here, I'll take it. >> I'll pick it up on my way out. [laughter]. [gasps]. >> I feel like it's commitment and I feel. like it's characterbased sketch comedy. with music. >> That's how I describe it. >> It's so to me that's like the funniest. thing I've ever seen. [laughter]. >> I know what you mean. I like, you know, it's like these weird specific things.

>> and in person it was so funny. >> That was really fun. >> It was really fun. >> Gwyneth, I'm Thank you so much for. coming on. You're such a good hang. >> You're a good hang. >> Thank you so much, Gwyneth. It's so fun. um to hang with you. Uh and you gave us. this first bit take that we've ever had. on the show and we hope it's not the. last. So, thank you so much. And, you. know, for this polar plunge, um, I want. to talk about polar plunges. I want to. talk about cold dips. There was a lot of.

controversy when I brought it up last. time, and I am here to just remind you, you don't have to do it. I like it. It. makes me feel alive slash like I'm going. to die. And I like it. I know it might. not be good for all women. And um, maybe. it's not good for me. I'll find out. Okay. But I'm gonna keep plunging and um. it does make me uh feel better. Okay. [laughter].

I don't know. I don't know what to say. I appreciate. um I I I'm not telling anybody to do it, but if you want to do it, I think it's. great. [laughter]. Okay. Anyway, thank you so much for. listening. Thanks for joining us and see. you soon. Bye. [applause]. You've been listening to Good Hang. The. executive producers for this show are. Bill Simmons, Jenna Weiss [music]. Berman, and me, Amy Polar. The show is. produced by The Ringer and Paperkite. For The Ringer, production by Jack. Wilson, Cat Spalain, [music] Kaia. McMullen, and Alia Xanerys. For.

Paperkite, production by Sam Green, Joel. Levelvel, and Jenna Weiss Berman. Original music by Amy Miles. [music] really good. Hey.