This is the dividing FORK in the road: Vivek Ramaswamy

WITHHOLD YOUR RENT AND YOUR. LABOR WITH YOUR NEIGHBORS. >> Jesse: VIVEK RAMASWAMY. RUNNING FOR OHIO GOVERNOR. WHAT'S GOING ON WITH THESE. PEOPLE? >> LOOK, I THINK WHAT'S GOING. ON, JESSE, IS IN THIS COUNTRY. YOU ARE SEEING THE SPREAD OF. SOCIALISM AT A SCALE THAT WE. HAVE NOT SEEN IN A GENERATION. I THINK THIS IS REALLY THE. DIVIDING FORK IN THE ROAD FOR. THE FUTURE OF OUR COUNTRY. DO YOU BELIEVE IN SOCIALISM OR. DO YOU BELIEVE IN FREE. ENTERPRISE? DO YOU BELIEVE IN CAPITALISM,

THE BEST KNOWN SYSTEM TO MAN TO. LIFT PEOPLE UP FROM POVERTY? THAT'S THE QUESTION. DO WE HAVE SOME HOUSING. AFFORDABILITY ISSUES WE NEED TO. ADDRESS? ABSOLUTELY WE DO. INCLUDING IN MY HOME STATE OF. OHIOIO. BUT THE WAY WE OUGHT TO DO IT IS. CUT THE REGULATIONS THAT GET IN. THE WAY OF NEW HOME. CONSTRUCTION. THAT INCREASES SUPPLY, BRINGS. DOWN COST. DO WE HAVE HIGH ELECTRIC BILLS. AND ENERGY COSTS? OF COURSE WE DO. THE RIGHT ANSWER IS HOW DO YOU. DO IT? YOU PRODUCE MORE ENERGY, INCREASE THE SUPPLY BY. OVERCOMING THEHE REGULATIONS THT. STOP US FROM GETTING THERE.

THOSE ARE THE TRUE ANSWERS. BUT THESE FOLKS, THEY ARE NOT. STRICTLY INTERESTED IN. SOLUTIONS, JESSE, THEY ARE. INTERESTED IN COMPLAINING. BECAUSE THEIR PRIMARY MOTIVATION. IS NOT TO ACTUALLY SOLVE THE. PROBLEMS OF THE PEOPLE THEY. CLAIM TO REPRESENT, IT IS TO. ACTUALLY ENVY AND HAVE GRIEVANCE. TOWARDS THOSE WHO HAVE ACHIEVED. SUCCESS. AND THE SOCIALIST WORLDVIEW. EFFECTIVELY REJECTS WHAT THE. AMERICAN DREAM WAS BUILT ON. THE SOCIALIST VIEW, THEY BELIEVE. THAT SOMEONE ELSE'S SUCCESS, BE. IT A LANDLORD OR SOMEBODY ELSE,

THEY BELIEVE SOMEBODY ELSE'S. SUCCESS TAKES AWAY FROM YOUR. ABILITY TO SUCCEED. THE AMERICAN DREAM IS BUILT ON. THE IDEA THAT SOMEBODY ELSE'S. SUCCESS MAKES YOU MORE LIKELY TO. SUCCEED. AND I THINK THE CHOICE FOR US ON. THE REPUBLICAN SIDE, I THINK. THIS IS WHAT'S MORE IMPORTANT, IS DO WE WANT TO RESPOND TO THIS. JUST BY CRITICIZING SOCIALISM. BUT BY STILL APOLOGIZING FOR. FREE ENTERPRISE OURSELVES? OR DO WE WANT TO DOUBLE DOWN AND. EMBRACE WHAT MADE AMERICA GREAT. THE FIRST TIME, OUR SYSTEM OF. FREE ENTERPRISE AND OUR SYSTEM. OF THE RULE OF LAW?

I THINK THAT'S THE WAY FORWARD. IF WE OFFER THAT ALTERNATIVE. VISION, THAT'S WHAT I'M GOING TO. DO IN OHIO, I'M CONFIDENT THAT. WE CAN ACTUALLY BRING A LOT OF. THESE PEOPLE WHO ARE TURNING TO. SOCIALISM BECAUSE THEY ARE. DISAFFECTED, TO BRING THEM ALONG. BY GIVING THEM A BETTER LIFE, WHICH IS WHAT MOST ORDINARY. VOTERS ACTUALLY WANT. UNLIKE THIS NEW DEMOCRAT. SOCIALIST ELITE THAT'S IMPOSING. THESE VIEWS ON THE ELECTORATE. >> Jesse: I DON'T KNOW IF THEY. WANT A BETTER LIFE. I THINK THEY WANT VIOLENCE. THEY SAY THEY WANT VIOLENCE. HOW DO YOU COUNTERACT THAT?

>> I WOULD DRAW A DISTINCTION. HERE BETWEEN THE ACTIVIST CLASS, THE LOUDEST VOICES IN THE ROOM, THIS SQUEAKY WHEEL THAT SEEKS. THE GREASE, VERSUS ORDINARY. CITIZENS WHO ARE IN PURSUIT OF A. BETTER LIFE BUT ARE TURNING TO. THIS BECAUSE THEY ARE FALLING. FOR THE PROPAGANDA. SO FOR THAT FRINGE ACTIVIST. GROUP, A I THINK WE HAVE TO CALL. OUT THEIR MORAL INCORRECTNESS. FOR WHAT IT IS AND DRAW A HARD. LINE AND SAY THAT WE IN THE. UNITED STATES OF AMERICACA ARE T. BUILT ON GRIEVANCE, WE ARE NOT. BUILT ON PENALIZING SUCCESS AND.

YOU ARE UN-AMERICAN AT YOUR CORE. IF THAT IS WHAT YOU ARE. PREACHING. BUT TO THE REST, I THINK WE HAVE. ACTUAL SOLUTIONS TO DELIVER. LOOK AT THE TRUMP ACCOUNTS, SAYING THAT EVERY PERSON IN THIS. COUNTRY, EVERY KID BORN IN THE. COUNTRY HAS A STAKE IN THE. FUTURE OF THE ECONOMIC SUCCESS. OF EQUITY MARKETS. LOOK AT THE ENERGY POLICIES, INCLUDING UNDER THE TRUMP. ADMINISTRATION, PRODUCING MORE. ENERGY, OIL, GAS, NOW NUCLEAR. ENERGY IN OUR COUNTRY AT A PACE. WE HAVE NOT SEEN IN HISTORY. EVENTUALLY ELECTRICITY AND POWER. ARE GOING TO BE FREE IN THIS. COUNTRY, IF WE CONTINUE ON THAT.

TRACK. NOT BECAUSE OF A SOCIALIST. SOLUTION BUT BECAUSE IT BECOMES. SO CHEAP BECAUSE WE'VE ACTUALLY. USED OUR NATURAL GIFTS. THAT'S OUR WAY FORWARD, JESSE, AND I THINK THAT WE HAVE ROOM TO. CONTINUE TO DO BETTER. ON OUR SIDE. TO ACTUALLY SHOW HOW OUR. SOLUTIONS, NOT BY HIDING FROM. CAPITALISM, NOT BY APOLOGIZING. FOR IT, WHICH SOME ARE I THINK. TEMPTED TO DO, BUT BY DOUBLING. DOWN ON THE SYSTEM OF FREE. ENTERPRISE THAT GOT US TO WHERE. WE ARE. AND ON THIS YEAR, I MEAN THIS IS.

STILL THE 250TH ANNIVERSARY OF. THE BIRTH OF THE GREATESEST NATN. EVER KNOWN TO THE HISTORY OF. MANKIND. I THINK WE CAN, IN THE MIDST OF. STRUGGLING TIMES FOR MANY, STILL. FIND STILL A MOMENT FOR. GRATITUDE TO SAY THAT WE ARE. STILL BORN IN THE WEALTHIEST. NATION AT THE MOST PROSPEROUS. MOMENT IN HISTORY. LET'S DOUBLE DOWN ON WHAT GOT US. HERE RATHER THAN ACTUALLY. TOSSING IT OUT ALTOGETHER. I THINK MOST VOTERS WILL BE WITH. US AND THAT'S WHAT I'M DOING. HERE IN OHIO. >> Jesse: WELL SAID AND I. FUNDED MY FOUR CHILDREN'S TRUMP.

ACCOUNTS THIS AFTERNOON AND I. THINK EVERYBODY SHOULD. FIRST YOU HAVE TO MOVE OUT O OF. YOUR PARENTS HOUSE, GET MARRIED. AND HAVE KIDS. MAYBE THEY.