There is 'very little hope' this will have any 'meaningful change': Brent Sadler

AVIV. TREY, THANK YOU. FOR MORE ON WHERE THINGS STAND. REGARDING IRAN AND WHERE THEY. MIGHT GO NEXT, LET'S BRING IN. HERITAGE FOUNDATION SENIOR. RESEARCH FELLOW SADLER. BRENT, THE PRESIDENT PAUSED. THESE STRIKES, HE THREATENED A. MASSIVE ATTACK THEN PAUSED IT. WHY DO YOU THINK THAT'S GOING. ON? >> WELL, TWO REASONS COME TO. MIND. FIRST IS THE POTENTIAL TO. RESUPPLY, REARM AND REPOSITION. FOR EXACTLY THAT MAJOR STRIKE,

AND THE ADVICE THAT WAS JUST. COMMENTED ON EARLIER THAT THE. COMMANDER OF CENTCOM, ADMIRAL. BRAD COOPER, THAT THE CURRENT. ATTACKS AGAINST THE COASTAL. AREAS REACHED THE END OF ITS. EFFECTIVENESS, IT COULD BE THAT. BEING THE REASON. THEY WANT TO REPOSITION FOR A. NEW TYPE OF FOCUS OF A MORE. LARGE SCALE ATTACK. THE OTHER, OF COURSE, IS THE ONE. THAT'S SEEMINGLY ON THE SURFACE. TO ALLOW NEGOTIATIONS BETWEEN. IRAN AND OMAN TO PLAY OUT. BUT THERE'S VERY LITTLE HOPE. THAT'S TO GOING TO HAVE ANY. MEANINGFUL CHANGE. JON: THERE ARE A LOT OF SKEPTICS.

OF THIS WAR. ONE OF THEM IS SENATOR CHRIS VAN. HOLLEN WHO SAYS THAT, IN HIS. VIEW, IT'S BECAUSE THE UNITED. STATES IS RUNNING OUT OF. PROTECTIVE WEAPONRY. LISTEN. >> WE HAVE DEPLETED OUR. INTERCEPTORS W WHICH ARE THE. WEAPONS WE USE TO INTERCEPT. INCOMING IRANIAN ATTACKS WHICH. ARE OBVIOUSLY NECESSARY TO. PROTECT AMERICAN TROOPS. AND SO WE ARE DEPLETING THESE. EVERY DAY DESPITE THE FACT THAT.

WE COULD FACE OTHER POTENTIAL. CONFLICTS AROUND THE WORLD. DONALD TRUMP SAID WE WON THIS. WAR WITH. WE WON. THOSE WERE HIS WORDS BACK IN. MARCH. AND SO THE QUESTION IS, NOW. WE'RE IN JULY, WHY ARE AMERICANS. STILL GETTING KILLED, WHY IS THE. STRAIT OF HORMUZ STILL CLOSED? JON: HAVE WE WON THE WAR? THAT'S WHAT THE PRESIDENT SAID. >> WELL, IT'S STILL VERY MUCH AT. PLAY AND, UNFORTUNATELY, DECISIONS MADE BY SENATORS LIKE. SENATOR VAN HOLLEN FOR MORE THAN. JUST A FEW YEARS, FOR SEVERAL.

DECADES AND ADMINISTRATIONS, HAVE PREVENTED US FROM GETTING. OUR DEFENSE INDUSTRIAL B BASE. WHERE IT NEEDS TO BE TO PRODUCE. THAT SCALE, THE TYPE OF. MUNITIONS HE'S REFERRING. BUT THE THREAT FROM THE IRANIAN. MILITARY IS SIGNIFICANTLY. LESSER, SO THE CONCERN ABOUT. THESE INTERCEPTORS, RUNNING OUT. OF SUPPLY, IT'S NOT AS MUCH OF A. CONCERN. OF COURSE, AN EYE ON THE PACIFIC. IS ALWAYS REALLY THE METRIC TO. WATCH, BUT THE THREAT FOR THE. FORCES IN THE REGION ARE. SIGNIFICANTLY LOWER THAN BEFORE. NOT ZERO, BUT THIS QUESTION.

ABOUT CAPACITY IS A LONGER. STANDING THAT'S STILL YET TO BE. ADDRESSED. AND AGAIN, THE PRESIDENT HAS. QUITE A LOT OF OPTIONS. AND AGAIN, IF THIS PAUSE IS. JUSTS TO REPOSITION, I THINK. IT'S TO HAVE A MUCH MORE. EFFECTIVE MILITARY HAMMER BLOW. ON THE IRGC TO COMPEL THEM TO AN. END. JON: THE ISRAELIS HAVE NOT BEEN. VERY INVOLVED IN THESE LATEST. STRIKES, HAVEN'T BEEN AS. INVOLVED SINCE THE BEGINNING OF. THE WAR. BENJAMIN NETANYAHU IS GOING TO. BE MEETING WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP. THIS WEEK. HERE'S WHAT HE HAD TO SAY ABOUT.

THE STATUS OF THE IRANIAN. REGIME. >> I THINK WHEN REGIME IS EITHER. TOPPLED OR IT'S SUFFICIENTLY. WEAKENED, THAT IT KNOWS IT HAS. TO END ITS NUCLEAR PROGRAM AND. HAS TO CHANGE ITS COURSE. THAT'S REALLY WHAT PRESIDENT. TRUMP IS TRYING TO ACHIEVE, AND. I BACK HIS FULLY, HIS EFFORTS TO. DO SO. IF HE CAN DO SO WITHOUT. RETURNING TO INTENSE MILITARY. FIGHTING, THAT'S FINE. WHY NOT? BUT ONE WAY OR THE OTHER, THEY. HAVE TO END THEIR NUCLEAR.

PROGRAM. AND WITH A DEAL OR WITHOUT A. DEAL, THAT HAS TO COME TO AN. END. JON: THAT'S THE WAY THE ISRAELIS. SEE IT, BUT DO YOU THINK THE RAN. JANUARIES SEE THAT THEY ARE --. RAP JANUARIES SEE THAT THEY. ARE -- IRANIANS KNOW THAT THEY. ARE TEETERING ON THE BRINK? >> LESS THAN 10 PERCENT OF THE. IRANIAN PEOPLE SUPPORT THE. REGIME, AND IN JANUARY LARGE. NUMBER OF PROTESTERS WERE OUT. SINCE THEY'VE DONE A BRUTAL. CRACKDOWN, BUT THE QUESTION FOR. THE IRANIAN REGIME, THEY.

CONTINUALLY TAKE CHOICES THAT. ISOLATE THEMSELVES. NOW THE UKRAINIANS INTERCEPTING. RUSSIAN SHIPPING TO AND FROM. RUSSIA WITH MILITARY GEAR. OSTENSIBLY BECAUSE THAT'S WHERE. THEY'RE GETTING SUPPLIES FOR. THEIR WAR IN UKRAINE. AND THEN, OF COURSE, THE. HOUTHIS. SO THE QUESTION, I THINK, ON. THIS TUESDAY MEETING AT THE. WHITE HOUSE WILL BE IN THE NEAR. TERM, HOW DO WE SECURE SHIPPING. TO THE STRAITS OF HORMUZ, ENSURE. THERE'S NO NUCLEAR-ARMED IRAN. AND, FINALLY, HOW DO WE ACTUALLY. INSURE THAT THIS REGIME, THE. MURDEROUS NATURE OF IT, HAS. ACTUALLY CHANGED IN THE LONG.

TERM SO THAT WE DON'T RELIVE. THIS IN FIVE YEARS FROM NOW OR. EVEN TO SOONER. JON: YEAH. YOU MENTIONED THE HOUTHIS, AND. THEY'VE BEEN CAUSING TROUBLE AND. LAUNCHING ATTACKS. THE SAUDIS ARE ONCE AGAIN TAKING. ON THE HOUTHIS. THE PRESIDENT TWEETED THIS, PUT. THIS OUT ON TRUTH SOCIAL: IF. THEY DO THIS AGAIN, MEANING THE. HOUTHIS, THE U.S. WILL HOLD IRAN. RESPONSIBLE IN THAT THE HOUTHIS. ARE A SURROGATE OR PROXY FOR. IRAN AND MAJOR MILITARY. PUNISHMENT WILL BE INFLICTED.

UPON IRAN AND, OF COURSE, THE. HOUTHIS THEMSELVES. SO THE THREATS ARE STILL OUT. THERE. THE HOUTHIS IN PARTICULAR DON'T. EVER SEEM TO HAVE RESPONDED TO. THREATS OR EVEN TO ATTACKS. DO YOU AGREE OR ARE THEY, IN. FACT, TEETERING AS WELL? >> THEY'RE NOT TEETERING. I MEAN, THEIR BAR FOR SURVIVAL'S. PRETTY LOW, AND THEIR LOVE FOR. KIND OF THE FIGHT ALSO VERY. HIGH. AS LONG AS THEY'RE GETTING. INTELLIGENCE AND MUNITIONS FROM. THE IRANIAN REGIME, THEY'RE. GOING TO BE IN THE FIGHT.

BUT ANOTHER IMPORTANT POINT ON. THIS, SAUDI ARABIA HAS QUITE A. NETWORK OF DIRECT MILITARY. SUPPORTERS FROM COUNTRIES LIKE. PAKISTAN, INDONESIA, PERHAPS. EVEN MALAYSIA, THAT IN THE PAST. HAVE ACTUALLY SUPPORTED SAUDI. ARABIA IN PAST FIGHTS AGAINST. THE HOUTHIS IN YEMEN. SO WHEN THE IRANIANS TRIGGER. FIGHT BETWEEN THE HOUTHIS AND. THE SAUDIS, THEY'RE FURTHER. ISOLATING THEMSELVES EVEN MORE. SO. JON: ALL RIGHT. IT'S GOING TO BE AN INTERESTING. WEEK WITH BENJAMIN NETANYAHU. MEETING WITH THE PRESIDENT. BRENT SADLER FROM THE HERITA.