Putin nearing 'TIPPING POINT' as conscription inches toward Moscow

. >> Ashley: AND FOREIGN COMPANIES. THAT WORK WITH THEM COULD FACE. U.S. SANCTIONS. AND PRESIDENT WILL MEET WITH. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY ON THE. SIDELINE OF THE UN GENERAL. ASSEMBLY WITH TRUMP. ADMINISTRATION PUSHING FOR. RESOLUTION TO THE YEARS LONG WAR. WITH UKRAINE AND RUSSIA. THEY ARE NOT GIVING UP ON. DIPLOMACY. >> I'M OPTIMISTIC WE'LL MAKE. PROGRESS. THE RUSSIA AND UKRAINE WAR HAS.

BEEN THE TOUGHEST INTERNATIONAL. CONFLICT TO SOLVE. THIS HAS BEEN TOUGH TO SOLVE, NO. DOUBT, I RATHER WORK FOR A. PRESIDENT WHO TRIED TO SOLVE THE. PROBLEM, WE'LL KEEP TRYING TO. SOLVE IT. DO I THINK IT WILL GET RESOLVED. EVENTUALLY? YES, IT IS JUST A QUESTION OF. TIME. >> Todd: ALEX GRAY IS JOINING. US, IN TOWN FOR BIG UN GA. GREAT TO HAVE YOU ON SET IN. PERSON. I'M GOING TO ASK YOU A QUESTION, PUTIN STRATEGY AS WE'VE.

DOCUMENTED AND DISCUSSED IS TO. DRAG THIS WAR OUT AS LONG AS. POSSIBLE. DO YOU SEE THAT CHANGING ANY. TIME SOON, ESPECIALLY IN LIGHT. OF THIS WEEK WITH EVERYBODY IN. ROOMS TRYING TO GET TO A. SOLUTION? >> TODD, I DON'T THINK IT WILL. CHANGE ANY TIME SOON AND THE. PRESIDENT IS DOING A TREMENDOUS. JOB TRYING TO FIND A SOLUTION. PUTIN CAN ABSORB EXTRAORDINARY. AMOUNT OF PAIN. PUTIN HAS NO INTEREST IN HIS.

PEOPLE'S WELL BEING AND HE CAN. TAKE A LOT OF PAIN. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY IS SMART TO. TRY TO BRING THE WAR HOME TO. RUSSIA. PUTIN WILL CONTINUE FOR. INDEFINITE FUTURE ABSENT. SETTLING THIS AT A NEGOTIATING. TABLE, WHICH IS WHAT THE. PRESIDENT IS TRYING TO DO. >> Ashley: DO YOU THINK A PEACE. AGREEMENT IS EVEN ACHIEVABLE? BEFORE I THOUGHT PUTIN WOULD NOT. SHOW UP OR AGREE TO SOMETHING. AND 24 HOURS LATER THAT FIZZLED, NOW I'M STARTING TO THINK.

VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY IS PUSHING. BACK ON THIS, TOO. WE HAVE THIS DOUBLE-EDGED SWORD. SITUATION. >> Alex: I THINK ZELENSKYY. BUILDINGS BECAUSE THEY WERE ABLE. TO RESIST INVASION IN 2022, I. THINK HE BELIEVES HE HAS ABILITY. TO OUTLAST PUTIN. THAT IS TOUGH TO DO. VOLODYMYR ZELENSKYY IS. ACCOUNTABLE TO HIS PEOPLE, THEY. WILL HAVE TO STAND BEFORE VOTERS. AND HAVE A PROCESS AT SOME POINT. AND PUTIN DOESN'T.

WE HAVE TO ASSUME THIS WILL GO, DICTATOR CAN WAIT LONGER THAN. THE ELECTED DEMOCRAT. MY SENSE IS, PRESIDENT TRUMP, PEOPLE DO NOT GIVE HIM CREDIT, HE HAS A HUMANITARIAN HEART, HE. DOES NOT WANT TO SEE BRUTAL. KILLING FOR NO REASON AND WANTS. TO SEE THIS BROUGHT TO AN END. >> Todd: YOU HEAR THE PRESIDENT. OF THE UNITED STATES TALKING. ABOUT DEATH HE DOES NOT WANT TO. SEE FROMMURE ON ADVERSARY.

RUSSIA. SO WITH THAT AS THE BACKDROP, YOU MENTION PAIN POINT OF. RUSSIA. HOW MANY MORE YOUNG MEN DO THEY. PHYSICALLY HAVE TO PUT INTO THE. MEAT GRINDER? >> Alex: THE RUSSIANS, FOR FIRST. PART OF THE WAR, PUTIN WOULD NOT. TAKE PEOPLE FROM THE CITY, HE. WAS TAKING CRIMINALS, ETHNIC. MINORITY SAYS, HE CAN'T DO THAT. ANYMORE. NOW IT IS COMING HOME TO.

MIDDLE-CLASS RUSSIANS IN URBAN. AREAS, IF THERE WAS EVER GOING. TO BE A TIPPING POINT, IT WOULD. BE WHEN HE HAS RUN OUT OF AND. HAS TO TAKE PEOPLE FROM MOSCOW. WE WILL SEE IF IT MAKES A. DIFFERENCE. >> Ashley: WHEN YOU TALK ABOUT. OIL REFINERIES THAT UKRAINE. STRUCK WITH RUSSIA, THEY HAVE. TAKEN A MAJOR HIT AND THIS WILL. BE A TRICKLE EFFECT THROUGH THE. UNITED STATES AND REST OF THE.

WORLD. DO YOU FORESEE THIS STOPPING ANY. TIME SOON OR DO YOU THINK IT. WILL GET MORE EXPENSIVE AT HOME. ? >> Alex: I THINK VOLODYMYR. ZELENSKYY HAS EVERY INCENTIVE TO. TARGET RUSSIAN INFRASTRUCTURE. THE WAY THE RUSSIANS HAVE. TARGETED UKRAINE'S SYSTEM. THAT IS HIS TRUMP CARD, GOING. AFTER ENERGY INFRASTRUCTURE. >> Todd: WHAT IS HIS INCENTIVE. TO STOP? WHAT COULD WE OFFER UKRAINE TO.

GET HIM TO STOP TO LOWER OUR. ENERGY PRICES HERE? IT'S A TOUGH QUESTION. IF I'M READING BETWEEN THE LINE, YOU DON'T THINK THEY WILL COME. TO A RESOLUTION ON DIESEL OVER. NEXT COUPLE DAYS? >> Alex: I THINK THE PRESIDENT. WILL TRY, IF ANYONE CAN DO IT, IT IS PRESIDENT TRUMP. >> Todd: WE'LL.