Pompeo warns of 'more military activity' with Iran

METHODS WILL BE IN PLACE UNTIL. AT LEAST SEPTEMBER 7TH. ALSO, RIGHT NOW, PRESIDENT. TRUMP PERSONALLY INVOLVED IN. ONGOING TALKS WITH IRAN TO. REOPEN THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. AT THE SAME TIME IRAN'S FOREIGN. MINISTER IS URGING MUSLIM. NATIONS TO UNITE AGAINST THE. OUTSIDERS. CHIEF INTERNATIONAL. CORRESPONDENT STEVE HARRIGAN IS. LIVE IN TEL AVIV ISRAEL WITH. THE LATEST. HI, STEVE. >> AISHAH, PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS. BEEN CITING PROGRESS IN THOSE. NEGOTIATIONS TO REOPEN THE.

STRAIT OF HORMUZ, ALSO. STRESSING HIS OWN PERSONAL. INVOLVEMENT IN THOSE TALKS FROM. IRAN, MORE MIXED MESSAGES ON. PROGRESS. SOME HARDLINERS MAKING EXTREME. DEMANDS THEY SAY MUST BE METET. BEFORE ANY DEAL IS MADE. SOME COMMENTATORS SAY EVEN IF. IRAN DOES SIGN A DEAL, THEY MAY. NOT UPHOLD WHAT THEY SIGN. >> THERE IS, I UNDERSTAND, SOME. CONCERN THAT IRAN IS TRYING TO. PLAY LOOSY WITH THE FOOTBALL. HERE BECAUSE THEIR REAL. OBJECTIVE IS TO DRAG THIS OUT. AS LONG AS THEY CAN INTO THE. MIDTERMS, BUT WHAT IT REALLY. COMES DOWN TO IS THE FACT THAT.

PRESIDENT TRUMP COULD INFLICT. TREMENDOUS DAMAGE ON IRAN IF HE. DECIDES TO. >> A KEY STICKING POINT WILL BE. CONTROL OVER THE STRAIT OF. HORMUZ, HOW MUCH LEVERAGE COULD. IRAN HAVE BOTH IN CONTROLLING. THE TYPE OF SHIPS THAT PASS. THROUGH AND POSSIBLY LEVELLING. FEES OR TRANSIT PAYMENTS ON. THOSE SHIPS. THAT'S SOMETHING THE U.S. HAS. REJECTED, ALSO THE U.S. HAVING. A NAVAL BLOCKADE OVER IRAN'S. PORTS AS LEVERAGE IN THOSE. TALKS.

FINALLY, THE TREASURY. DEPARTMENT INSTITUTING NEW. SANCTIONS THAT WILL TARGET. IRAN'S BANKING SYSTEM. BACK TO YOU. AISHAH: STEVE HARRIGAN, THANK. YOU VERY MUCH. FOR MORE LET'S BRING IN FORMER. SECRETARY OF STATE MIKE POMPEO. SECRETARY, GREAT TO SEE YOU. >> GOOD MORNING. GREAT TO BE WITH YOU THIS. MORNING. AISHAH: I WANT TO PLAY A QUICK. SOUND BITE, FROM VICE-PRESIDENT. J.D. VANCE AN HOUR OR SO AGO. WITH KAYLEIGH MCENANY GIVING US. AN UPDATE ON THE IRANIAN. CONFLICT. >> I TRY TO REMIND PEOPLE WE'RE.

IN THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME HERE. THIS THING IS NOT OVER. IT'S NOT THE BEGINNING. WE'RE IN THE MIDDLE OF GAME. APPLYING A HOST OF TOOLS, DIPLOMATIC, ECONOMIC, MILITARY. TOOLS TO ASSURE THAT WE GET THE. BEST OUTCOME FOR THE AMERICAN. PEOPLE. I FEEL CONFIDENT THAT WE'LL GET. THERE, BUT WE'RE STILL A BIT IN. THE MIDDLE OF THE GAME. AISHAH: OKAY. SECRETARY, WHAT DO YOU THINK. WHEN YOU HEAR THAT WHEN I SAYS. WE'RE STILL IN THE MIDDLE OF. THE GAME AND WE'RE SIX MONTHS. IN. >> AISHAH, I THINK WHAT HE'S. SAYING, LOOK, THERE'S NO CLEAR. PATH. I'VE HEARD THE ADMINISTRATION.

TALK ABOUT THIS, IT'S VERY. DIFFICULT. THEY'RE NOT SURE WHO THEY'RE. SPEAKING FOR OR WHO CAN SPEAK. FOR IRAN TODAY AND MAKES THE. NEGOTIATIONS NEAR IMPOSSIBLE. THAT'S WHY CONTINUING THE. BLOCKADE, INCREASE IN. SANCTIONS, I THINK THAT MAKES. ENORMOUS SENSE. THERE IS NO DOUBT THE IRANIAN. REGOO EM IS WEAK--. REGIME IS WEAKER TODAY THAN TWO. MONTHS OR FOUR MONTHS AGO, BUT. NOT WEAK ENOUGH TO CAPITULATE.E. THAT'S WHAT'S GOING TO HAPPEN. IT'S NOT THE CASE THERE WILL BE. A PIECE OF PAPER THAT WILL.

SOLVE IT. THESE ARE NOT COUNTERPARTS, THEY'RE THUGS AND--. >> AND THE PRESIDENT SAID THAT. REPEATEDLY AND GENERAL JACK. KEANE WAS ON THIS MORNING AND. HE SEEMS TO IMPLY THAT THE. OBJECTIVES CHANGED WITH IRAN, PRIMARY OBJECTIVE WENT WITH. MILITARY TO NOW DIPLOMATIC AND. POLITICAL AND ECONOMIC, AND. HE'S WONDERING IF IT'S EVEN. POSSIBLE FOR A WAY TO ACHIEVE.

ALL OF THOSE GOALS. DO YOU THINK IT'S POSSIBLE? >> I ABSOLUTELY DO AND I THINK. THAT GENERAL KEANE'S GOT IT. RIGHT. THERE'S EVERY REASON TO BELIEVE. THAT PRESIDENT TRUMP'S EFFORT. TO BRING THIS A DIPLOMATICALLY. RESOLVED DEAL IS THE RIGHT. APPROACH. WITH THE IRANIANS THERE WILL BE. MORE MILITARY ACTIVITY. THEY CAN'T HELP THEMSELVES. THEY'VE KILLED AMERICANS OVER.

THE DECADES AND WHEN THE. VICE-PRESIDENT SAID THEY, THE. THEY IS SO DEEPLY ENTRENCHED. THERE'S NO SUCH THING AS AN. IRANIAN MODERATE. I THINK THAT GENERAL KEANE HAS. IT RIGHT. THE ECONOMIC PRESSURE AND THE. MILITARY PRESSURE WILL HAVE TO. CONTINUE AND AT SOME POINT, THE. IRANIAN PEOPLE, KILLED 40,000. JUST A FEW MONTHS AGO. THE IRANIAN PEOPLE WILL HAVE AN. OPPORTRTUNITY THAT THEY SO. DESPERATELY DESERVE AND THAT. WILL CREATE THE OPPORTUNITY FOR. STABILITY AS WELL AND IS A. GREAT THING FOR AMERICAN. PEOPLE. AISHAH: LET ME DIG INTO THAT.

THOUGHT. YOU'RE SAYING THE WAY OUT OF. THIS IS TO TRULY GIVE THE. IRANIAN PEOPLE A CHANCE TO. STAND UP AND FIGHT FOR. THEMSELVES. IT'S NOT TO DEAL WITH THESE. PEOPLE THAT ARE IN LEADERSHIP. RIGHT NOW. I MEAN, THE QUESTION I THINK ON. THE MINDS OF A LOT OF AMERICANS. IS, WE CONTINUE TO TALK TO THE. LEADERS IN IRAN, WHOEVER THEY. MAY BE, BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM. LIKE WE'RE GETTING ANYWHERE, SO. IS THERE A POINT, CAN THERE BE. A POINT IN THE FUTURE WHERE WE. MAKE THEM CAVE OR DO WE NEED TO. TURN TO THE IRANIAN PEOPLE?

>> I THINK WE NEED TO DO BOTH. I THINK YOU'VE GOT IT EXACTLY. RIGHT. THESE ARE SIMULTANEOUS EFFORTS. AND I'M CONFIDENT THAT. PRESIDENT TRUMP IS ENGAGED IN. BOTH. I'M CONFIDENT THERE IS A LOT OF. ACTIVITY BEING DONE BY. OURSELVES AND OUR ALLIES IN THE. REGION TO GIVE THE IRANIAN. PEOPLE THE SPACE AND RESOURCES. THAT THEY NEED, BUT YOU'VE GOT. TO TAKE DOWN MORE IRGC POWER. SO AS LONG AS THEY CAN KILL. THOUSANDS IN THE STREETS, IT'S.

IMPOSSIBLE. WE SHOULD BE WORKING IN EACH. DIRECTION TO GET THE OUTCOMES. THAT THE AMERICAN PEOPLE. DESERVE. AISHAH: AND EXPRESSING SOME. EMISSIONS, AND STOCK PILE, THE. PATRIOTS, AND WHETHER WE'LL BE. ABLE TO REPLENISH FOR QUITE.

SOME TIME. >> OUR DEFENSESE COMPANIES ARE. BUILDING MORE PLANTS RIGHT NOW. THAN IN ANY POINT IN HISTORY, BUILDING PLANTS FOR THE. PATRIOTS, THE TOMAHAWKS, FOR. EVERYTHING. WE HAVE CERTAIN TYPES OF. MUNITIONS WHICH ARE VERY, THEY. MAY NOT BE AS ACCURATE, YOU. KNOW, THEY'RE NOT AS ELITE. WE HAVE ELITE, TOO, BUT WE'RE. WATCHING THAT VERY CLOSELY, BUT. WE HAVE CERTAIN TYPES WHICH ARE. VERY POWERFUL AND VERY GOOD AND. WE HAVE AN UNLIMITED SUPPLY. AISHAH: THE PRESIDENT IS ALSO,

SECRETARY, DOWNPLAYING ANY. INVOLVEMENT, ANY HELP IRAN IS. GETTING FROM PERHAPS RUSSIA OR. CHINA. WHY WOULDN'T THEY WANT TO HELP. WOULDN'T THIS HELP PUTIN OUT. GREATLY IF HE COULD KEEP US. BUSY WITH THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. WHILE HE ADVANCED IN UKRAINE? MAYBE ELSEWHERE? >> ABSOLUTELY. LET ME TAKE THESE TWO QUESTIONS. FIRST. NEVER UNDERESTIMATE THE. AMERICAN PEOPLE'S CAPACITY TO. BUILD WEAPONS WHEN THE UNITED. STATES INTERESTS MATTER. SO I'M WITH PRESIDENT TRUMP,

I'M CONFIDENT WE WILL DELIVER. WHAT OUR SOLDIERS, SAILORS, AIRMEN AND MARINE NEED TO. EXECUTE THE MISSION. AS FOR THE CHINESE AND. RUSSIANS, I THINK THE PRESIDENT. UNDERPLAYS THIS, I THINK THAT. THE RUSSIANS AND CHINESE ARE. ACTIVELY SUPPORTING THESE. REGIMES AND TALKED ABOUT LIFE. LONG PARTNERSHIPS WITH EACH. OTHER I THINK THE TIES ARE. DEEP. I THINK THAT THE RUSSIANS EVER. PROVIDING INTELLIGENCE AND. CHINESE ARE NOT PROVIDING IF. NOT THE ENTIRE WEAPONS SYSTEM, THE GUTS AND SOFTWARE FOR THE. WEAPONS.

THEY HAVE DEEP INTERESTING NOT. ONLY KEEPING THIS GOING, BUT. UNDERMINING WESTERN. CIVILIZATION. ACCESS, RUSSIANS, NORTH. KOREANS, IRANIANS CHINESE, WANT. WITH THE WAY THAT WE LIVE AND.