'PAPER TIGER': Trump WARNED as he signals Iran deal could be close

>> Sandra: AN IRAN DEAL COULD BE. COMING SOON AS PRESIDENT TRUMP. WARNS THE ISLAMIC REPUBLIC TO. COOPERATE OR FACE THE. CONSEQUENCES. >> I WOULD RATHER MAKE A DEAL. BECAUSE I DON'T WANT TO KILL. PEOPLE. I DO NOT WANT TO KILL PEOPLE. WE ARE TALKING. LET'S SEE WHAT HAPPENS. BUT THEY RESPECT US. THEY RESPECT US. IT'S BEEN 50 YEARS AND NO OTHER. PRESIDENT HAS DONE WHAT YOU. SHOULD HAVE DONE A LONG TIME AGO.

BECAUSE IRAN CANNOT HAVE A. NUCLEAR WEAPON. CAN'T HAVE IT. >> THE POTENTIAL DEAL INCLUDES. REOPENING THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ. BUT TEHRAN ISN'T READY TO GIVE. UP CONTROL. WORKING WITH OMAN ON COORDINATES. FOR THE SHIPPING ROUTE. THE TWO SIDES ARE SAID TO BE. NEGOTIATING, TRANSIT FEES WITH. IRAN, REPORTEDLY SEEKING MORE. THAN 7% OF THE VALUE OF CARGOES. WHILE OMAN IS PUSHING FOR ABOUT. 3%. HERE TO DISCUSS FORMER SECRETARY. OF STATE AND FOX NEWS. CONTRIBUTOR MIKE POMPEO. MR. SECRETARY, GREAT TO SEE YOU.

SO, HOW CERTAIN ARE YOU THAT IF. A DEAL DOES COME TO FRUITION, IT. WILL LOOK ANY DIFFERENTLY THAN. WHAT WE HAVE SEEN IN THE PAST? >> WELL, SENATOR, WE ARE -- GOOD. MORNING GREAT TO BE WITH YOU. INFLICTED ON THE IRANIAN ECONOMY. AND ON THEIR MILITARY. THIS IS NOT WHERE WE WERE UNDER. PRESIDENT OBAMA WHEN THEY GAVE. HIM BILLIONS OF DOLLARS AND THEY. STILL HAD A CLEAR AND DECENT. PATHWAY TO A NUCLEAR WEAPON. I THINK THAT'S THE RIGHT PLACE.

TO START. IT'S ALSO TRUE THAT ANY DEAL. THAT YOU SIGN WITH THE IRANIANS. GOING TO BE VIOLATED FROM THE. MOMENT IT'S EXECUTED. THAT IS HISTORICALLY ACCURATE. AND ALMOST CERTAIN TO BE TRUE. GOING FORWARD. THERE IS ZERO EVIDENCE THAT THE. IRGC, THE ISLAMIC REVOLUTIONARY. GUARD CORPS WHO IS ESSENTIALLY. RUNNING IRAN TODAY AND FRANKLY. BEEN RUNNING IRAN FOR THE LAST. 25 YEARS. THERE IS NO REASON TO BELIEVE. THEY HAVE TURNED OVER A NEW LEAF. OF LEAF THEY NOW ALL OF A SUDDEN. WANT ISRAEL TO EXIST AND OKAY. WITH THE UNITED STATES. A DEAL THAT GETS SIGNED IS. LIKELY TO BE JUST A PAPER TIGER.

AND THAT'S WHAT WE NEED TO MAKE. SURE WE UNDERSTAND. THE UNITED STATES WORLD, WESTERN. CIVILIZATION DEPENDS ON THE. UNITED STATES MAKING VERY CLEAR. THAT IT'S UNACCEPTABLE FOR IRAN. TO HAVE A NUCLEAR WEAPON OR. CONTROL INTERNATIONAL WATERWAY. AS WE ARE STARTING TO HEAR. RUMORS THAT THEY'RE CONTINUING. TO DEMAND. >> Sandra: HOW CONCERNED ARE YOU. THAT IRAN IS APPARENTLY PUSHING. FOR THESE FEES TO CROSS THROUGH. THE STRAIT OF HORMUZ? PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS INSISTED. THAT THAT WILL NOT BE THE CASE. AND HE HAS SAID IF ANYBODY. CHARGES ANYTHING TO PASS THROUGH.

IT, IT WILL BE THE UNITED. STATES. >> WELL, SANDRA, WE HAVE SEEN. THIS BEFORE, THERE IS RECORDING. ABOUT NEGOTIATIONS AND WHAT. PEOPLE ARE SAYING. I TAKE THAT ALL WITH VERY LARGE. GRAIN OF SALT. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS BEEN. UNAMBIGUOUS ABOUT THE TOLLS. HE SAYS THAT'S NOT GOING TO. HAPPEN. AND, IMPORTANTLY, IS HE SPOT ON. IT'S UNACCEPTABLE. I THINK WE ARE GOING TO RENT THE. STRAIT OF HORMUZ FOREVER. THAT'S ESSENTIALLY WHAT THEY'RE. ASKING US TO DO. IT'S NOT THEIRS. IT'S INTERNATIONAL WATERS IT. WOULD SET A TERRIBLE PRECEDENT. AND MAKE NO MISTAKE ABOUT IT, THE IRANIANS ARE LEADING BUT THE.

RUSSIANS AND CHINESE ARE. WATCHING CLOSELY WHETHER THE. UNITED STATES IS PREPARED TO. CONTINUE THIS BLOCKADE IN A WAY. THAT ULTIMATELY CAUSES IRAN TO. CAPITULATE. THIS GOES FAR BEYOND JUST THE. CONFLICT IN THE MIDDLE EAST. THIS TRULY DOES MATTER FOR. AMERICAN SECURITY FOR DECADES TO. COME. >> Sandra: MEANWHILE VICE. PRESIDENT VANCE SAT DOWN WITH. LAURA INGRAHAM LAST NIGHT. AND SHE ASKED HIM ABOUT CONCERN. FROM AMERICANS THAT WE'RE. ENTERING A PROLONGED WAR ANDND. THERE IS CERTAINLY CONCERN ABOUT. WHAT THAT MEANS FOR AMERICANS. WHEN IT COMES TO PRICES AT THE. PUMP. HERE'S THE VICE PRESIDENT LAST.

NIGHT. >> THE REALITY, LAURA IS THAT. CORRECT NUMBER ONE, THE IRANIANS. ARE EXTRAORDINARILY DIFFICULT. PEOPLE. NUMBER TWO, THEY HAVE A. FRACTURED SYSTEM. SO THERE ARE PEOPLE WITHIN THEIR. SYSTEM WHO WANT THE WAWAR TO BE. OTHER. THERE ARE ALSO PEOPLE WITHIN. THEIR SYSTEM WHO ARE CRAZY. RADICALS WHO WANT THE WAR TO. CONTINUE, OUR JOB IS TO NAVIGATE. THROUGH THAT. THOSE OIL PRICES ARE GOING TO. COME DOWN AND STAY DOWN. IRAN WILL NEVER HAVE A NUCLEAR. WEAPON. AND THE UNITED STATES WILL BE IN. A STRONGER POSITION. >> EVEN A REPORT THAT PROGRESSSS. SOMETHING MADE, MR. SECRETARY, WE ARE SEEING THOSE PRICES COME.

DOWN. THIS WEEK WE HAVE SEEN OIL COME. BACK TO THAT $75 MARK. SO, HOW CONFIDENT ARE YOU THAT. WE WILL EVENTUALLY SEE A DROP IN. THESE ENERGY PRICES THAT HAVE. BEEN AFFECTING AMERICANS HERE AT. HOME? >> WELL, SANDRA, I'M CONFIDENT. WE WILL GET THERE I DON'T THINK. THE WAY WE GET THERE IS THROUGH. A NEGOTIATED SOLUTION THAT GIVES. THE IRANIANS 3% OR 7% TOLL ON. EVERYTHING THAT MOVES THROUGH. THERE I THINK THAT ONLY WOULD. GIVE IRAN MORE WILLINGNESS, MORE. DESIRE, AND MORE CAPABILITY TO. CONTINUE TO DRIVE PRICE HIGHER. THIS CHALLENGE OF AMERICAN.

AFFORDABILITY GOES BACK TO THE. BIDEN ADMINISTRATION. WE HAVE SUFFERED THIS FOR A LONG. TIME. PRESIDENT TRUMP'S EFFORTS TO. DENY IRAN THE CAPACITY TO HAVE A. NUCLEAR WEAPON WILL, IN THE LONG. RUN, LEAD TO AN ECONOMY HERE IN. AMERICA. THIS IS DEFINITELY AMERICA. FIRST. AN ECONOMY HERE IN AMERICA THAT. MAKES PRICES MORE AFFORDABABLE R. ORDINARY AMERICANS ALL ACROSS. THE COUNTRY. I'M CONFIDENT PRESIDENT TRUMP. WILL GET THERE. >> Sandra: WE HAVE BEEN SAYING. THROUGHOUT THIS WAR THERE WAS. REALLY NO -- NEVER REALLY ANY. PRICE SHOCK WHEN IT COMES TO. OIL. IT'S THE AAMAZING WE ARE STILL.

IN IT AND OIL PRICES ARE ONLY. ST.