Muslim Brotherhood EXPOSED for plot to INFILTRATE US schools, politics

>> Lawrence: HAPPENING TODAY, THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD WILL FACE. NEW SCRUTINY ON CAPITOL HILL AS. LAWMAKERS EXAMINE THE GROUP AND. ITS NETWORK IN THE UNITED. STATES. FOUNDED IN EGYPT IN 1928, THE. ORGANIZATION WAS BUILT ON THE. BELIEF THAT ISLAMIC TEACHING. SHOULD GUIDE GOVERNMENT AND. LATER DEVELOPED AN ARMED WING. AND HAMAS EMERGED AS PALESTINIAN. BRANCH. OUR NEXT GUEST ARGUES THAT THE. REAL CHALLENGE IS UNDERSTANDING. HOW THE MUSLIM BROTHERHOOD.

OPERATES BEYOND TERRORISM. INCLUDING POLITICS, EDUCATION. AND GRASS ROOT ACTIVISM. HERE TO DISCUSS LORENZO THAT. DEAN KNOW, THE FOUNDER AND. DIRECTOR OF THE PROGRAM OF. EXTREMISM AT. GEORGE WASHINGTON UNIVERSITY. SIR, THANK YOU SO MUCH FOR. JOINING THE PROGRAM LORE WREN. ZOE, CAN YOU SPEAK OF THE. INFLUENCE THEY HAD AND HOW THEY. TRIED TO SECRETLY AND WE HAVE. SEEN MANY OF THEM AT THESE. PROTESTS, INFILTRATE OUR. DIFFERENT ORGANIZATIONS IN THE.

COUNTRY? >> YOU ARE ABSOLUTELY RIGHT. I THINK THAT'S THE PART WE DON'T. SEE, WITH 25 YEARS SINCE 9/11, EVERYBODY UNDERSTANDS THE. JIHADIST THREAT GROUPS LIKE ISIS. AND AL-QAEDA. WE HAVE A HARD TIME. CONCEPTUALIZING THERE ARE GROUPS. THAT HAVE CREATED A PRESENCE IN. THE U.S. FOR 40, 50 YEARS, AND. THAT ARE NOT VIOLENT. THEY DON'T ENGAGE IN TERRORISM. BUT THEY HAVE CREATED A NETWORK. VERY EFFECTIVE IN PURSUING AN. AGENDA THAT IS ITION EMPLOYING.

DEMOCRACY AND INFLUENCING OUR. SOCIETY IN A NEFARIOUS WAY. THEY HAVE CREATED A VERY. EXTENSIVE PRESENCE IN THE. EDUCATION SYSTEM. THEY ARE NOW VERY ACTIVE IN THE. POLITICAL STAGE, SUPPORTING AND. FUNDING CANDIDATES ON BOTH. SIDES, ON THE DEMOCRATIC SIDE. THEY ARE VERY ENGAGED IN A. VARIETY OF INTERFAITH EFFORTS. THEY ENGAGE IN MULTIPLE. ACTIVITIES. ALL OF THEM WITHIN THE LAW. AND THIS IS ONE OF THE BIG. CHALLENGES IS WHAT CAN A. DEMOCRACY DO AGAINST THE GROUP.

THAT ACTS LARGELY, FOR THE MOST. PART. WITHIN THE DEMOCRATIC FRAMEWORK? >> YES. SOMETIMES THEY KNOW OUR LAWS. BETTER THAN WE DO. THIS IS ALL A PART OF THAT 100. YEAR PLAN. THEY PLAN ON INFILTRATING THE. U.S. GOVERNMENT. THE SCHOOLS AND YOU BET THEY'RE. ON THE CAMPUSES RIGHT NOW. ESPECIALLY THOSE COLLEGE CAMPUS. CIVIL RIGHTS GROUPS. THEY HAVE TIES TO THE QATARIS. AND THEY SHARE IDEOLOGICAL GOALS. WITH EXTREMIST GROUPS. SO WHEN THE PEOPLE ARE IN THE. MIDDLE OF THE STREET, SAYING.

GLOBALIZE THE INTIFADA, OR FROM. THE RIVER TO THE SEA, WE SHOULD. TAKE THEM SERIOUSLY, RIGHT, LORENZO? >> I THINK YOU TOUCHED ON COUPLE. OF VERY IMPORTANT POINTS. FIRST OF ALL, THIS IS NOT A. SMALL IMPROVISED NETWORK. THIS IS A LONG PRESENCE THAT. DATES BACK DECADES IN THE UNITED. STATES. IS VERY WELL FUNDED. MOSTLY BY QATAR BUT ALSO BY. OTHER SOURCES IN THE MIDDLE. EAST. AND KNOWS HOW TO SPEAK OUR. LANGUAGE. THEY KNOW HOW TO FRAME THEIR.

ISSUES THROUGH THE LENSES, IT A. LANGUAGE PALATABLE TO WESTERN. AUDIENCE, PARTICULARLY ON. COLLEGE CAMPUSES BUT ALSO. THROUGH CIVIL RIGHTS. ORGANIZATIONS. THEY WILL NEVER OPENLY SPEAK. ABOUT JIHAD AND FRAME, FOR. EXAMPLE, THE ISRAELI PALESTINIAN. CONFLICT IN TERMS OF RELIGIOUS. TERMS. THEY WILL USE THE LANGUAGE OF. POST COLONIAL THEORY. OPPRESSION, APARTHEID. OBVIOUSLY PREVENTING REALITIES. OF RELIGIOUS CONFLICT THAT THEY. KNOW HOW TO CAMOUFLAGE THEIR. REAL GOALS. THEY HAVE THE ABILITY, THEY HAVE.

REALLY CREATED A VERY SYMBIOTIC. RELATIONSHIP WITH A LARGE PART. OF CIVIL SOCIETY OR PROGRESSIVE. ORGANIZATIONS THAT SERVE THEM. IT'S VERY REMINISCENT OF WHAT. HAPPENED IN THE IRANIAN. REVOLUTION AS SORT OF USEFUL. IDIOTS. >> Lawrence: LORENZO QUICK. EXITED QUESTIONS. WHEN YOU LOOK AT THE RISE OF THE. NEW DEMOCRATIC SOCIALIST GROUP, WE SEE A LOT OF THE SAME. TEACHINGS UNDER THEM. HOW CLOSELY TIED ARE THEY?

>> I THINK WE'RE SEEING SOME. DYNAMICS IN WHICH VARIOUS. FINANCIAL SUPPORT. A FEW CANDIDATES SHAH VAN V. BEEN SUCCESSFUL EVEN INCLUDING. YESTERDAY IN MICHIGAN, SUCCESSFUL IN BEING ELECTIONS. THAT UNQUESTIONABLY HAVE TIES. I'M NOT SAYING THEY ARE. ISLAMISTS BUT THINK ARE. UNQUESTIONABLY SUPPORTERRED BY. ISLAMIST NETWORKS. >> Lawrence: SAME IDEAS. MAY NOT HAVE THE SAME LABELS BUT. UNDERPINNING SOMETHING WE SHOULD.