KGB ROOTS: Putin understands power 'more than anyone' amid renewed peace push

N. THE U.K. JOHN, BACK TO YOU. >> John: STEVE HARRIGAN WITH. THE UPDATE FROM TEL AVIV. THANK YOU. >> Aishah: BREAKING TODAY: PRESIDENT TRUMP PRESSING. VLADIMIR PUTIN FOR A SWIFT END. TO HIS WAR IN UKRAINE. THE KREMLIN SAYS THAT THEY SPOKE. BY PHONE FOLLOWING A NEW ROUND. OF U.S. DIPLOMACY WITH CIA. DIRECTOR RATCLIFFE AND TOP TRUMP. ENVOY STEVE WITKOFF AND. JARED KUSHNER ALL MAKING RECENT. VISITS TO RUSSIA. RETIRED ARMY LIEUTENANT GENERAL. KEITH KELLOGG IS HERE NOW, AMERICAN SECURITY CO-CHAIR AT. THE AMERICAN FIRST POLICY. INSTITUTE AND FORMER ASSISTANT.

TO THE PRESIDENT. GREAT TO SEE YOU, SIR THANKS FOR. JOINING US LET'S TALK ABOUT THIS. PHONE CALL. WE HAVEN'T GOTTEN A READOUT YET. FROM THE WHITE HOUSE BUT WE HAVE. A READOUT FROM RUSSIA. THEY SAY THE PHONE CALL BETWEEN. PUTIN AND TRUMP WAS CONSTRUCTIVE. AND THE VISIT BY WITKOFF AND. KUSHNER WAS POSITIVE. THEY'RE PUTTING A POSITIVE SPIN. ON IT. WHAT DO YOU THINK HAPPENED. >> GOOD TO BE WITH YOU BOTH. I THINK WE HAVE A TALE OF TWO. CITIES HERE. WE HAVE MOSCOW AND KYIV. JARED KUSHNER AND STEVE WITKOFF. GO TO MOSCOW. THEY TALK TO PUTIN.

KIND OF OBSEQUIOUS IN WHAT THEY. SAID. THEN YOU GO TO KYIV. THE YOUR APPEARANCE BROUGHT THE. E THREE, UKRAINE BROUGHT IN THE. BRITS COME AT THE FRENCH AND THE. GERMANS. AND THEY TALKED MORE ABOUT WHAT. WAS REALLY HAPPENING. WHEN YOU LOOK AT WHAT'S. HAPPENING RIGHT NOW, THE. UNITED STATES WAS AT ITS ZENITH. WHEN IT PROVIDED THE EQUIPMENT. AND A LOT OF THE EQUIPMENT AND. NOW THE EUROPEANS ARE PICKING UP. ON THAT AND I THINK THE.

INFLUENCE HAS GONE DOWN QUITE A. BIT. IF THE UKRAINIANS CAN START TO D. DEVELOP THEIR OWN SYSTEMS BUT IF. THE SOUTH KOREANS GIVE THEM THE. SAM TWO SYSTEM, IT'S THE SAME AS. THE PATRIOT AT ONE-THIRD THE. COST. THEY GET THE C AMP SYSTEM. IF THE EUROPEANS WANT A REALLY. GET THE RUSSIANS THEY CAN. RELEASE THE 300 BILLION THEY. HAVE IN FROZEN ASSETS SO I THINK.

-- WE THINK WE ARE HERE. WE ARE NOT REALLY THERE. UKRAINIANS REGARDLESS OF WHAT WE. SAY, THE UKRAINIANS ARE NOT. GIVING UP LAND VOLUNTARILY WHERE. THEY ARE GOING TO TELL THE. RUSSIANS, YOU WANT THE LAND, YOU. FIGHT FOR IT THERE AND MY. CONCERN IS THEY'RE GOING TO TRY. TO PRESSURE UKRAINIANS TO GIVE. UP LAND FOR DEALS THAT AREN'T. OUT THERE. >> John: WE TALKED ABOUT IT. AN AIDE TO PRESIDENT PUTIN WAS. THE ONE WHO PUT OUT THIS READOUT.

AND IT'S FAIRLY COMPREHENSIVE. THEY DIDN'T GIVE AWAY ANYTHING. CLASSIFIED BUT THEY SAID. DONALD TRUMP DIRECTLY. COMMUNICATED THE DESIRABILITY OF. BRINGING THE CONFLICT TO AN END. AS SOON AS POSSIBLE. AS IT WOULD IMMEDIATELY OPEN UP. PROSPECTS IMPRESSIVE AND FAR. REACHING ONES FOR THE FULL. RESTORATION OF RELATIONS BETWEEN. THE U.S. AND RUSSIA. THIS WAS FLOATED BEFORE, IT. NEVER WENT ANYWHERE BUT THE. RUSSIANS ARE TALKING POSITIVELY. ABOUT THIS. THEY ARE ALSO SAYING THERE ARE. NO AGGRESSIVE PLANS. THEY DIDN'T ENTER THEIR MIND.

>> THE LAST PART FIRST, THAT'S. EXACTLY WHAT ADOLF HITLER SAID. WHEN HE WENT TO CZECHOSLOVAKIA. HE HAD NO PLANS TO GO FURTHER, WRONG. I THINK PUTIN IS KIND OF THE. SAME WAY. VLADIMIR PUTIN IS A FORMER KGB. AGENT, HE UNDERSTANDS POWER MORE. THAN ANYTHING ELSE. ANYTHING HE SAYS I WOULDN'T TAKE. TO THE BANK BUT I DON'T TRUST. HIM AT ALL. THE UKRAINIANS ARE FIGHTING. WELL. PUT THE RUSSIANS ON THE BACK. FOOT, NOT GOING TO GIVE UP LAND.

VOLUNTARILY AND THE THINGS PUTIN. SAYS THEY CAN GIVE THE. UNITED STATES, I THINK IT'S. BOGUS. THERE ARE BUSINESS DEALS TO BE. MADE IN UKRAINE. WHEN I WAS IN UKRAINE THREE. WEEKS AGO UKRAINE IS OPEN FOR. BUSINESS. THE AMERICAN CHAMBER OF COMMERCE. HAS SAID IT BEFORE. WE HAVE TO GET OUT THERE AND DO. IT ESPECIALLY PRECIOUS METALS. AND MINERALS. IF YOU WANT A LEVEL PLAYING.

FIELD FINE BUT DON'T MAKE. COMMENTS TO PUTIN THAT THIS WILL. BE SOMETHING THAT I WILL ALWAYS. REMEMBER UNTIL MY GRANDKIDS. ABOUT. >> Aishah: YOU'VE GOT DIALOG. OVER HERE BUT YOU'VE GOT. REPUBLICANS GETTING FRUSTRATED. WE ARE NOT HITTING RUSSIA WITH. SANCTIONS BUT THIS IS. JOHN KENNEDY. >> I KNOW WE MISSED A BIG CHANCE. THIS PAST WEEK WHEN THE HOUSE. DIDN'T PASS THE RUSSIAN. SANCTIONS BILL. VLADIMIR PUTIN, THIS GUY IS A. PIRATE. HE'S GOT BLOOD UNDER HIS. FINGERNAILS BUT HE DOESN'T CARE.

ABOUT A BUNCH OF PRETTY TALK. YOU DON'T GET ANY CREDIT FOR. KISSING HIS ASS. YOU'VE GOT TO SHOW HIM THAT YOU. MEAN BUSINESS. WE SHOULD HAVE PASSED THE. RUSSIAN SANCTIONS BILL AND WE'VE. GOT ANOTHER CHANCE TO DO IT. >> Aishah: THIS IS LINDSEY. GRAHAM'S BILL, HIS LAST WISH. BEFORE HE PASSED AWAY AND IT IS. STUCK IN THE HOUSE. >> KENNEDY IS RIGHT ABOUT THIS. I WOULD SAY TO AMERICANS. REMEMBER YOUR HISTORY, REMEMBER. WHO YOU ARE AND WHAT YOU HAVE. DONE IN THE PAST.

I DON'T THINK MEMBERS OF. CONGRESS HAVE DONE THAT. THERE ARE PEOPLE IN CONGRESS WHO. FOR LACK OF A BETTER TERM ARE. COWARDS IN WHAT THEY ARE DOING. WHAT LINDSEY GRAHAM DID WAS. CORRECT. HE SENT THAT BILL, THE SENATE. PASSED IT. THE HOUSE SHOULD PASS IT. WHY ARE THEY AFRAID OF. VLAD.