Gen Kellogg: Putin is WORRIED

OUR ENERGY SYSTEM AND OUR. HEATING, UKRAINIANS UNDERSTAND. THAT THIS WINTER COULD BE VERY. HARSH FOR US. BUT ININ RESPONSE, WE WILL HAVEO. CHOICE BUT TO MAKE IT PAINFUL. FOR RUSSIA TOO. AND THAT'S EXACTLY WHY WE SAY. THAT THESES CALCULATION STEPS. ARE IMPORTANT, ARE NEEDED BEFORE. WINTER. LARRY: ALL RIGHT. THAT, OF COURSE, UKRAINIAN. PRESIDENT ZELENSKYY ISSUING A. WARNING TO RUSSIA NOT TO ATTACK.

THEIR ENERGY SECTOR DURING A. SPEECH AT THE U.N. GENERAL. ASSEMBLY. SO JOINING US NOW, LIEUTENANT. GENERAL, FORMER RETIRED. LIEUTENANT GENERAL AND VERY DEAR. FRIEND KEITH KELLOGG WHO WAS THE. U.S. SPECIAL ENVOY FOR UKRAINE. AND AT THE AMERICA FIRST POLICY. INSTITUTE HE RUNS THE CENTER FOR. AMERICAN SECURITY CO-CHAIR. AND HE RUNS IT VERY WELL, AND. HE'S A MENTOR TO ME. KEITH, THANK YOU FOR THIS ON A. SUNDAY MORNING. I HAVE A HEADLINE FOR YOU.

IT'S A "WALL STREET JOURNAL". HEADLINE. OVERWHELMED BY UKRAINE'S DRONES, RUSSIA TELLS BUSINESSES TO. DEFEND THEMSELVES. OKAY? OVERWHELMED BY THE UKRAINIAN. DRONES, RUSSIA TELLS BUSINESSES. TO DEFEND THEMSELVES. THEY CAN'T PROTECT THEIR OWN. BUSINESS. NOW, WHAT DOES THAT MEAN? I MEAN, YOU -- I DON'T KNOW IF. UKRAINE IS WINNING, BUT THEY'RE. SURE, YOU KNOW, HURTING THEM. >> YEAH.

LARRY, THANKS FOR HAVING ME. LOOKOK, THAT'S A SIGN OF WEAKNES. BY PUTIN. AND PUTIN COULD END THIS WAR. TODAY IF HE WANTS TO IF HE JUST. AGREES TO A CEASEFIRE IN PLACE. LOOK, JUST DECLARE VICTORY AND. GO HOME. IT'S A CLASSIC GOLIATH ATTACK. GOING ON RIGHT NOW. UKRAINE'S GOING TO DEFEND. THEMSELVES. THEY'RE DOING QUITE WELL. THEY'VE GOT A LOT OF CONFIDENCE. IN THEIR FIGHTING ABILITY. I'VE SEEN THEM UP CLOSE AND. PERSONAL. I AGREE WITH WHAT'S HAPPENING. OVER THERE IN THE SENSE THAT. UKRAINE IS FIGHTING VERY WELL.

YOU CAN -- THE PRESIDENT SHOULD. TELL PUTIN, YOU KNOW, IF YOU. WANT THE REST OF THE DONBAS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE TO FIGHT. FOR IT, AND I THINK IT'S A. LOSING PROPOSITION FOR HIM. LAST WEEK AT THE U.N. GENERAL. ASSEMBLY WE HAD ALL THE LEADERS. THERE SPEAKING, AND WE SEE. WHAT'S HAPPENING RIGHT NOW IN. UKRAINE. THEY'RE USING STARVATION WHERE. PEOPLE ARE STARTING TO EAT. GRASS. THIS GOES BACK TO 1932 WHERE THE. SOVIET UNION AT THAT TIME USED. STARVATION AS A TACTIC. THIS IS ONE OF THOSE THE. PRESIDENT'S GOT IT RIGHT IN.

SUPPORTING UKRAINE. AGAINST THE. RUSSIANS, BECAUSE THE RUSSIANS. HAVE GOT TO UNDERSTAND IT'S A. LOSING PROPOSITION FOR THEM. AND PUTIN NEEDS TO UNDERSTAND. THAT. I DON'N'T THINK HE DOES. I THINK HE'S WORRIED ABOUT HIS. OWN SURVIVAL. IF HE BRINGS TROOPS HOME, HE'S. GOING TO WORRY ABOUT THEM KIND. OF QUESTIONING WHAT HAS HAPPENED. BEFORE. HE'S LOST BETWEEN 11.2 AND 1 --. 112 AND 1.4D1.2 AND 11.4 MILLION. SOLDIERS. THEY CAME OUT OF AFGHANISTAN. AFTER LOSING 18,000, AND NOW. THEIR NUMBERS ARE QUITE LARGE.

I WOULD PUT MONEY ON THE SIDE, IF I WAS PLAYING THE POLYMARKET, PUT THE MONEY ON THE SIDE OF THE. UKRAINIANS, NOT THE RUSSIANS. LARRY: WELL, 25,000 OR 30,000. LOST LIVES PER MONTH IS. EXTRAORDINARY. I MEAN, IT'S JUST EXTRAORDINARY. GENERAL KEITH, LET ME ASK YOU. ONE LAST ONE. PRESIDENT TRUMP HAS INVITED. PUTIN TO THE G20 MEETING OF THE. HEADS OF STATE. >> RIGHT. LARRY: CAUGHT A LOT OF PEOPLE BY.

SURPRISE, BUT THAT'S WHAT. PRESIDENT TRUMP DOES FROM TIME. TO TIME. TELL ME WHAT YOU THINK OF THAT, AND WILL THAT -- MIGHT THAT. BRING PUTIN IN TO SOME. CONVERSATION ABOUT ENDING THIS. WAR THAT HE HASN'T DONE. HERETOFORE? BRING HIM IN SO SO WE CAN TALK, OR HOW DO YOU READ THAT, KEITH. KELLOGG? >> LARRY, I READ IT JUST LIKE. YOU DO. HE'S GOING TO BRING HIM IN. CLOSE, HE'S GOING TO HUG HIM.

TIGHT AND SAY THIS IS WHAT NEEDS. TO BE DONE. HE'S USING DIPLOMACY AS A REAL. ADVANTAGE, AND THAT'S ONE OF --. YOU KNOW, I WOULD NEVER BET. AGAINST DONALD TRUMP. HE GETS IT RIGHT WITH IRAN, WITH. UKRAINE. BRING THE GUY IN CHOSE AND. EXPLAIN IT TO HIM. -- IN CLOSE. THAT'S THE REASON HE SENT JOHN. RATCLIFFE, THE DIRECTOR OF THE. CIA, OVER TO KIND OF TELL HIM, HEY, YOU CAN BE BROUGHT BACK. INTO THE LEAGUE OF NATIONS, GOOD. NATIONS, IF YOU JUST END THIS. THING. BUT HE'S PRETTY STUBBORN ABOUT. IT. PUTIN REALIZES IT'S A LOSING.

EFFORT FOR HIM RIGHT NOW. UKRAINIANS ARE NOT GOING TO GIVE. UP. THEY'RE GOING TO TELL THE. RUSSIANS, YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE. TO FIGHT FOR WHAT YOU GET. LARRY, YOU SHOOT ME IN THE FACE, THE NUMBERS ARE ASTRONOMICAL. YOU LOSE 30,000 SOLDIERS A MONT-. LARRY: A MONTH. >> DEAD OR WOUNDED. THAT'S LOSING MORE THAN A. DIVISION OF TROOPS. YEAH, I AGREE. LARRY: IT IS --. >> AND, AGAIN, IT GOES BACK TO. THEM PUTTING PRESSURE ON PUTIN. LARRY: I MEAN, AT THE U.N. MR. TRUMP TOLD THEM, YOU KNOW,

LET'S MAKE HUMANITY PROSPEROUS, AND LET'S MAKE IT PEACEFUL. THIS IS JUST INHUMANE, REMARKABLE. ANYWAY, GENERAL.