Gen Jack Keane: This is all connected

>> Martha: THIS STORY IS ONE. TO WATCHCH AND GROWING BY THE D. AN IRANIAN BRITISH CITIZEN HAS. NOW BEEN ARRESTED IN A SUSPECTED. PLOT TARGETING AN AIR BASE THAT. THE UNITED STATES USES FOR. STRIKES ON IRAN. FIVE OTHER SUSPECTS ARRESTED. SUNDAY AND RELEASED ON AND THE. MEN ARE STILL UNDER INVESTIGATED. AND WHO THEY CAN CONTACT AND. IRAN DENIES BEING INVOLVED AND.

HERE IS ANDY BURNHAM YESTERDAY. >> THERE ARE STRONG INDICATIONS. THAT IRAN PLAYED A PART IN WHAT. HAPPENED OVER THE WEEKEND. IT REMAINS AN ONGOING COMPLEX. AND SERIOUS POLICE INVESTIGATION. AND OF COURSE WE ARE WORKING. CLOSELY WITH OUR COLLEAGUES IN. THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA. >> Martha: WITH THAT WE BRING. IN RETIRED FOUR-STAR GENERAL. JACK KEANE FORMER VICE CHIEF OF. STAFF AND CHAIRMAN OF THE. INSTITUTE FOR THE STUDY OF WAR.

AND FOX NEWS SENIOR STRATEGIC. ANALYST. GENERAL, GREAT TO HAVE YOU WITH. US. WHAT DO YOU THINK? NOW THEY BROUGHT IN A. 27-YEAR-OLD MAN AND ARRESTED HIM. AND ALSO INTERVIEWED ANOTHER. 26-YEAR-OLD MAN FROM THE. INVESTIGATION OF THIS CASE THAT. MAY HAVE BEEN PLOTTING AN ATTACK. ON THIS U.S. U.K. BASE IN. ENGLAND. >> IT SEEMS PRETTY OBVIOUS THAT. THE STEPS ARE COMING CLOSER TO. IRAN HAVING ACCOUNTABILITY HERE. AND LISTEN THEY HAVE BEEN ACTIVE.

FOR A LONG TIME HERE. I'VE BEEN DEALING WITH A HIGH. SOURCE THAT INDICATED THAT MI5. AND THE POLICE AND THE LAST FIVE. YEARS HAVE DISRUPTED 19 LATE. STAGE IRANIAN ATTACKS IN THE. U.K. THAT'S NOT PUBLICLY COMMON. KNOWLEDGE BUT THAT IS A FACT SO. IT GIVES YOU A SENSE AND. REMINDING OUR OWN PEOPLE HOW. EXTENSIVE IRAN IS IN TERMS OF. BEING NOT A PREDATOR IN THE.

REGION BUT THE EXPLORER OF. TERRORISM AROUND THE WORLD. AND THEN LININKED WITH CHINA, RUSSIA AND IRAN. THEY COME TOGETHER TRULY. BELIEVING THAT THEY HAVE A HUGE. OPPORTUNITY NOW TO CHANGE THE. WORLD ORDER. THEY HAVE ALL BECOME MORE. AGGRESSIVE AS A RESULT. IT'S NOT ISOLATING AND. PRESIDENT XI STEPPED UP HIS. EFFORT IN THE LAST THREE OR FOUR.

YEARS AND OBVIOUSLY IRAN WENT TO. WAR WITH ITS PROXIES IN ISRAEL. THIS IS ALL CONNECTED. IRAN HAS THIS TERRORIST ACTIVITY. NOW AT WORK THAT HAS BEEN A. WORLDWIDE PROBLEM FOR SOME TIME. I HOPE THAT WHERE WE ARE FINALLY. GETTING TO A PLACE OF NOT JUST A. CONSENSUS IN THE UNITED STATES. BUT AN INTERNATIONAL CONSENSUS. THAT IT REALLY IS NOT GOING TO. CONTINUE TO APPEASE THIS REGIME.

AND MAKE ONE DIPLOMATIC EFFORT. AFTER ANOTHER AS PART OF THEIR. APPEASEMENT STRATEGY TO WORK OUT. SOME KIND OF A COMPROMISE WITH. THIS REGIME WHEN ONE -- THEY. WILL NEVER COMPLY WITH IT ANY. WAY. IT DOESN'T FIT THEIR GOALS BUT. WE WILL GIVE THEM THE MONEY AS A. RESULT OF THAT TO DO WHAT? TO RECOVER AND TO REBUILD AND. THAT MEANS WE ARE PASSING THE. PROBLEM ON. WE ARE NOT SOLVING THE PROBLEM. THIS APPEASEMENT, DIPLOMACY HAS.

BEEN A MISERABLE FAILURE FOR. DECADES AND WE HAVE TO COME TO. THE CONCLUSION AND WE HAVE TO. HAVE THE MENTAL TOUGHNESS AND. THE SPINE TO LOOK AT IT FOR WHAT. IT REALLY IS AND SAY THIS REGIME. HAS GOT TO GO. THAT HAS GOT TO BE OUR. OBJECTIVE. >> Martha: TO THAT POINT, GENERAL. THIS IS WHAT THE FORMER. PRIME MINISTER KEIR STARMER SAID. THE DAY AFTER THE FEBRUARY 28TH. ATTACK THAT KILLED THE AYATOLLAH. AND MUCH OF HIS TOP TIER. LET'S REMEMBER THIS.

WATCH. >> WE WERE NOT INVOLVED IN THE. INITIAL STRIKES ON IRAN AND WE. WILL NOT JOIN OFFENSIVE ACTION. NOW. BUT IRAN IS PURSUING A SCORCHED. EARTH STRATEGY SO WE ARE. SUPPORTING THE COLLECTIVE SELF. DEFENSE OF OUR ALLIES AND OUR. PEOPLE IN THE REGION. >> Martha: THOSE TWO THINGS. SEEM A BIT AT ODDS. YOUR THOUGHTS ON THAT LOOKING.

BACK, GENERAL. >> THIS HAS BEEN A PART OF THE. PROBLEM FOR SOME TIME. THERE ARE COUNTRIES HERE THAT. ACTUALLY FEAR THE IRANIANS AND. THAT IS PART AND PARCEL OF WHAT. HE IS DEALING WITH THERE. HE IS NO LONGER IN POWER AND. OTHER REASONS FOR THAT BUT THIS. IS PART OF IT. A LACK OF MORAL CLARITY AND WILL. TO STAND UP FOR ADVERSARIES AND. HE IS VERY MUCH AWARE OF THE 19.

I JUST TALKED ABOUT IN HIS. COUNTRY WHERE THEY WERE TRYING. TO KILL HIS CITIZENS AND HE. STILL HAS AN ATTITUDE LIKE THAT. IRAN HAS HAD THIS STRATEGY AND. MARTHA, IT'S BEEN A BRILLIANT. STRATEGY FOR MULTIPLE DECADES. AND THAT IS TO USE PROXIES AS. OPPOSED TO THEIR OWN. CAPABILITIES. AND IT GIVES COUNTRIES. DENIABILITY. IT HAPPENED WITH REAGAN WHEN. THEY BLEW UP OUR EMBASSIES. TWO OF THEM IN 1983 AND THE. MARINE BARRACKS. WE DID NOTHING ABOUT IT.

WE HAD DENIABILITY. REAGAN GOT SMART REALLY QUICK ON. IT AND WENT AFTER THESE GUYS. BECAUSE HE REALIZED WHO THEY ARE. BUT WE HAVE TO GET A CONSENSUS. HERE AND UNDER PRESIDENT TRUMP'S. LEADERSHIP I THINK WE HAVE A. HUGE OPPORTUNITY TO TAKE THESE. GUYS OFF THE BOARD ONCE AND FOR. ALL. LET'S MOVE THEM TOWARDS THE. STABILITY OF PEACE THAT IS AT. HAND HERE. LOOK AT THE COOPERATION, UAE AND. SAUDI IS GIVING WITH THE. ISRAELIS OVER THIS INCIDENT. THAT IS THE FUTURE. IRAN IS NOT THE FUTURE.

>> Martha: THANK YOU, GENERAL. I'M GOING TO LEAVE YOU ON THIS. NOTE. "WALL STREET JOURNAL" HEADLINE. MIDDLE EAST CRUDE OIL EXPORTS. BACK AT PRE-WAR LEVELS AND IT. TALKS ABOUT THE REWIRING OF THE. OIL EXPORT INFRASTRUCTURE. THIS IS BEING HANDLED IN AN. ECONOMIC WAY AND ALSO WITH A. PRESSURE CAMPAIGN MILITARILY. WE WILL LEAVE IT THERE GENERAL. BUT WE LOOK FORWARD.