Death toll rises to 67 after migrants storm Spain's border

>> THE POLICE OFFICERS TRIED TO. STOP US, BUT OUR WILL AND OUR. DETERMINATION, WE COULD CAME. HERE. [INAUDIBLE CONVERSATIONS]. CHARLIE: THE DEATH TOLL HAS. RISEN TO 67 AFTER MORE THAN. 60,000 ILLEGAL MIGRANTS POURED. ACROSS THE MOROCCAN BORDER INTO.

THE SPANISH TERRITORY OF CEUTA. OVER THE PAST TWO DAYS. PRESIDENT TRUMP REACTING. WATCH THIS. >> YOU KNOW, I SAW SPAIN. YESTERDAY, AND I WATCHED THE. CATASTROPHE THAT TOOK PLACE. IT WAS A -- IT LOOKS LIKE AN. INVASION OF A COUNTRY BY. HUNDREDS OF THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. AND THAT SAME THING'S GOING TO. HAPPEN TO US IF THE REPUBLICANS. DON'T GET ELECTED EXCEPT WORSE. MUCH BIGGER. MUCH EASIER TO GET INTO. WE HAVE THE SAFEST BORDER IN THE.

WORLD. IF WE'RE NOT IN OFFICE, OUR. COUNTRY WILL BE INVADED AT. LEVELS THAT MAKE SPAIN LOOK. SMALL TIME. CHARLIE: FOREIGN SERVICE OFFICER. SIMON HEN KINISON JOINS US NOW. THANKS FOR JOINING US. I GET IT THAT SPAWN'S -- SPAIN'S. OPEN BORDER POLICIES INVITED. THIS, BUT I'M STILL CONFUSED. ABOUT OVER A 48-HOUR PERIOD.

60,000 PEOPLE CHARGED THE. BORDER. WHAT WAS IT THAT SPARKED THAT. INVASION? >> YEAH, YOU'RE RIGHT. I MEAN, THE CONDITIONS HAVE BEEN. THERE FOR A LONG TIME. IT'S NOT LIKE THAT FENCE GOT ANY. SHORTER OVER THE PAST COUPLE OF. MONTHS. BACK IN 2021, 8,000 PEOPLE CAME. OVER IN ONE DAY WHICH IS CLOSE. TO OUR RECORD AT THE SOUTHERN. BORDER OF 12,000. AND AS YOU SAY, IN PRETTY MUCH. 24 HOURS, 60,000 PEOPLE MADE IT. OVER, OF WHOM MOST HAVE GONE.

BACK, ALTHOUGH AT LEAST 10,000. SUPPOSED MINORS ARE REMAINING. THE MOROCCANS, OBVIOUSLY, LET. THEM THROUGH. THERE ARE REPORTS THAT THE. MOROCCANS ENCOURAGED THEM. NOT OFFICIALLY, BUT THROUGH. SOCIAL MEDIA AND OTHER MEANS BY. TELLING THEM THAT THEY COULD GET. INTO SPAIN AND THAT THEY. WOULDN'T BE SENT HOME AGAIN. BECAUSE IF THEY SWAM, IT COMES. UNDER A DIFFERENT PROVISION OF. SPANISH LAW. SO I THINK THE STRUGGLE BETWEEN. SPAIN AND MOROCCO, YOU KNOW, THE. POLITICAL ANIMOSITY THERE HAD. SOMETHING TO DO WITH IT.

THAT WAS THE IMMEDIATE TRIGGER. BUT THE RISK IS ALWAYS THERE. CHARLIE: RIGHT. SO AND THEN YOU MENTIONED THAT. THE MAJORITY OF THEM, WE BELIEVE. ACCORDING TO SPANISH. AUTHORITIES, HAVE RETURNED BACK. TO NO ROCK TO COE. IF -- MOROCCO. DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE THAT, AND. THAT RAISES A WHOLE NEW RAFT OF. QUESTIONS ABOUT WHY THEY DID IT. >> I DO BELIEVE THAT LOT OF THEM. WOULD HAVE GONE BACK BECAUSE. THIS ENCLAVE ONLY HAS A. POPULATION OF 84,000. THEY'VE GOT A SHELTER THERE FOR.

MIGRANTS THAT HOLDS UP TO 500. PEOPLE. OBVIOUSLY, THERE'S NOWHERE FOR. THEM TO EAT, YOU KNOW, THEY'VE. BEEN TAKING DUMPS IN THE STREET. FROM WHAT I'VE SEEN ON VIDEO. SO I DO BELIEVE A LOT OF THEM. WENT BACK, BUT MANY WILL STAY, AND THEY'RE ALL GOING TO CLAIM. TO BE MINORS. IF YOU LOOKED AT THAT VIDEO, THESE ARE ALL MEN MAYBE IN THEIR. EARLY 20s TO 40s. SO YOU'RE GOING TO HAVE THE SAME. THING AT THE BORDER WHERE. 500,000 UNACCOMPANIED CHILDREN. SUPPOSEDLY CAME IN, MANY OF THEM.

UNDER 18. CHARLIE: ANYTIME YOU HAVE 60,000. MILITARY-AGED YOUNG MEN COMING. ACROSS THE BORDER, THAT'S AN. INVASION. AND IT SEEMS LIKE A VERY SCARY. INVASION IS, IF YOU ASK ME. I WANT TO SWITCH GEARS AND ASK. YOU ABOUT TRUMP'S BOARD OF PEACE. OUTLINING A GAZA IS PEACE PLAN. OBVIOUSLY, THERE ARE A LOT OF. MOVING PARTS HERE. THERE'S A LOTT THAT SORT OF, YOU. KNOW, THIS IS A PROBLEM THAT HAS. BEEN AROUND FOR LITERALLY. DECADES THAT POLITICIANS HAVE.

FAILED TO FIND A WAY, A PATH. FORWARD TOWARDS PEACE. BASICALLY, YOU KNOW, WHAT IS. YOUR BASIC VIEW OF THE BASIC, BROAD OUTLINES AS LAID OUT BY. PRESIDENT TRUMP AND THE BOARD OF. PEACE? >> YEAH, I'VE BEEN LOOKING. THROUGH THE DETAILS. IT IS FAIRLY VAGUE AS TO WHAT. HAPPENS WHEN, AND IT'S BEEN. DESCRIBED AS A ZERO TRUST DEAL. WHICH I THINK IS VERY ACCURATE. BECAUSE FUNDAMENTALLY THERE'S NO. TRUST IN THE MIDDLE EAST TO.

YOU KNOW, HAMAS' GOAL REMAINS TO. WIPE OUT THE JEWISH STATE. LET'S BE FRANK. I MEAN, ISRAEL WANTS TO LIVE IN. PEACE AND SECURITY. FUNDAMENTALLY, THEY'RE AT ODDS. THIS DEAL IS, I THINK OF THESE. DEALS EACH TIME AS KIND OF WAVES. ON THE BEACH. THEY GO UP, THEN THEY GO BACK. AGAIN. BUT ADD THE END, WE'RE GOING TO. HAVE A LOW TIDE WHERE THERE IS. SOME KIND OF UNDERSTANDING THAT. CAN BE REACHED BECAUSE THIS. CAN'T GO ON FOREVER, HAMAS. CANNOT LIVE FOREVER WITHOUT ANY. MONEY, AND THEY WANT TO CONTROL. SOME LAND EVENTUALLY. THEY WANT TO HAVE SOME, YOU.

KNOW, EVEN IF IT'S BEHIND THE. SCENES. SO I SEE THIS AS MAYBE NOT. COMING TO FRUITION NEEDILY, BUT -- IMMEDIATELY, BUT IT'S. ANOTHER STEP THAT DOES ADVANCE, I THINK, THE GOAL. CHARLIE: SO, OBVIOUSLY, YOU. KNOW, WE TALK A LOT ABOUT THE. WAR IN IRAN AND HOW IT AFFECTS. THE MARKETS AROUND THE WORLD, IN. PARTICULAR HERE AT HOME. BUT IS THIS AN INDICATION THAT. THE WAR HAS MANAGED TO DRY UP AT. LEAST SOME OF THE FUNDING THAT. WAS BEING FUNNELED FROM TO HAMAS.

? -- FROM IRAN TO HAMAS? >> I DO THINK IT'S NOT. COMPLETELY DRIED UP, BUT IF YOU. LOOK AT WHO'S GIVING THEM. MONEY -- TURKEY, QATAR, IRAN --. THEY ALL HAVE THEIR OWN. DIFFERENT INTERESTS, AND RIGHT. NOW THEIR INTEREST IS TO BRING. THIS TO SOME KIND OF CONCLUSION. I THINK IRAN IS UNDER A HUGE. AMOUNT OF PRESSURE. THEIR ECONOMY IS IN WORSE SHAPE. THAN IT'S BEEN FOR A VERY LONG. TIME, AND THEY HAVE LESS TO. SPARE. AND THAT WILL MOTIVATE HAMAS. CHARLIE: RIGHT TO. >> THEY ARE FUNDAMENTALISTS, AND.

SO IT'S ALWAYS, IT'S KIND OF. LIKE A MEXICAN STANDOFF AT THI.