Matt Mathews | Dumb Blonde Podcast

[music]. Is this thing on? What's up you sexyers? Welcome to. another episode of Dumb Blonde. Today I. have my brother from another mother, Mr. Matt Matthews, in the house, baby. >> Yes, Matt. Period. >> I am so happy you're here. I'm I'm so. happy to be here. I'm so happy.

>> It's crazy because I didn't really even. know who you were until we posted the. clip of me cleaning the freaking stalls. out at the barn or at the at the farm. and everybody's tagging Matt. Matt, Matt, Matt, Matt needs you need to meet. Matt. You need to do this. And I'm like, who is Matt? So, I go over to your page. and I'm I it was we had two different. reactions. When I saw you, I was like, oh my god, I'm gonna love this man. Like, he'sing amazing. He's out there. talking [ __ ] He's in a robe. He's.

busting his husband's balls. Like, I. love this man. And then you had a. different reaction. What What was it? >> I thought you was going to be a [ __ ]. Like, I was like, I'm not going to like. [laughter] her. She is this pretty like. beautiful. I thought she is damn sure. going to be a And then it goes to show. you that you can't judge somebody, you. know? And as soon as we as soon as we. connected and we started talking, like. it was just like immediate friendship. >> Yeah, for sure. And it just we just hit. it off. >> Well, and Kale loves you. Kale Lowry. from Teen Mom. You guys know I had Kale.

on a few years ago. Love Kale. And if. Kale loves you, I love you, too. Because. Kale's kind of just like me. We're just. like, take it or leave it. This is who. we are. And when I saw that you guys. had, you know, had your, you know, little moments together online, too, I. was like, "Okay, he's cool people." So, >> Kell's Kale's one of my besties. She's a. she's a ride or die, and she's also a. [ __ ] So, [laughter] I'm like, uh, you. know, it's it's it really it really was. all just kind of full circle. She was. like, "Oh, you're going to love Bunny.". I was like, "Okay, if you say I like.

her, I'll like her." And then I like, we. met and I fell in love. And I was like, "She she's truly the kindest person.". And like that's hard to find. >> I love it. You're very sweet. >> I ain't lying. >> Well, I also fell in love with you when. I heard that you hate Bush. >> I was like, "Fucking thank God." Like. there's like this trend right now where. everybody wants to grow out their bush. And why do we think that's hot? >> Like. >> thigh to thigh. It looks like jiffy pop. Shut up. I'm going throw up. I'm throw.

up. >> I can't. Who wants to dive in that? >> No. I don't want to floss my teeth when. I'm trying to suck on a tally wagger. Okay. >> I don't want to look for the snake in. the grass. >> No. Hell no. You know what I'm saying? I'm not do I won't do it. And it's. [laughter] not It ain't sanitary. You. know, >> it smells like bio. If if I'm trying, you know, to service the Lord's work. down there, you know, I don't want if. there's a scent, I'm done. >> No, you can't do it. >> I'm done. >> You can't do it. >> It's over for me. >> Nope. So, as soon as I heard you didn't.

like Bush, I was like, this is my. partner. [laughter] Like, this is it. This seals the deal because I can't do. Bush either. I think what sealed the. deal for me is when. >> we were talking about going to award. shows. >> and we were talking about like red. carpets and all that and we were like we. would just be in the corner just like. like this is not cuz it's too much. people in for me. >> Ask my team. Iinging and I talk about it. on the podcast all the time. I hate red. carpets. They one the cameramen are just.

love you guys. Love our photographers. They just don't know your angles. The. >> I'll have 45ans. Oh, dude. There was one. time I look like Slimer. Straight up. slime. I looked like Slimer. I was like, like I don't know how. They caught me. like from the side. >> They do you dirty, >> bro. And they used the picture in. everying magazine. I'm like, can we not. use the one with the five chins? Like, what are we doing here? That they're. hot. There was one award show that we. went to. What was it? >> Wait, I thought you meant the cameraman.

I said, I ain't never seen a hot. [laughter] one. Let me know which awards. you was going to cuz the ones that I be. going to, they not hot. >> No, no, [laughter] no, no. Not the. cameraman, but the award shows. Like we. went to one in Texas. It was in the. summertime. >> ACM's this year. >> It wasn't this year. It was last year or. two years ago. Three years ago. >> I was having a heat stroke this year. My. whole titties about about slapped the. hell sweated off. >> Try wearing a dress. Your thighs are. justing just moist. Everything from down. under is moist. It's terrible. And they.

had us in like a um a tent that had no. AC in it. Like it was so bad. So yeah, the award shows, I don't like them. I. can't I just can't. Too many people, too. much energy, >> and they yell at you. >> I'm like, yell at me one more. >> because I'mma throw something at. [laughter] you. >> And I hate feeling [clears throat] like. I hate, you know, having to walk around. This sounds first world problem. God. damn. >> [laughter]. >> Like I I mean just having to like sit. around and wait to do an interview,

>> right? >> Or like sit around and I'm just like can. we. >> It's the old hurry up and wait. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And I'm So it's I go to support my. husband and I'm thankful to even be. there because I would have no reason to. be there without my husband. Um but. still it's a lot. It's a lot to take on. which is why I don't really I try not to. go to him. And I tell my husband like. this year I'm like do we have to go to. every freaking. >> you're sitting and like you feel like a. sardine in those seats and you're. squished. >> It's like you know just you have it's. like church turn to the person and say.

hi and tell them that you that you love. them today and you know it's like you. have to turn to everybody and say hi and. it's just like it's a whole big hollow. I feel like I feel like we should do we. should from from now on the red carpets. I feel like we should just. >> we'll do our walks and then we'll just. have to have each other for moral. support and be like. >> I'm totally down. >> do it. We could do the interviews. together, too. >> Oh, >> I hate the interviews because I'm so bad. with like right on the spot like when. they ask you questions and then it's. like I want to cuss and I'm on air and. it's just like Yeah. No, it's a whole.

nightmare. So, we'll just hold each. other's hands and do the interviews. together. I can't wait. You want to do. some rapid fire questions with me to. start this this interview off. Okay. Don't think too much. Just I want what. comes to your head? >> Okay. >> Which farm animal has seen you naked the. most? >> Oh, the horses. >> Do tell. >> Yeah. Well, so I my horses my barn is. right beneath my house. >> Okay. >> So like I can walk to down into the barn. from my kitchen. [clears throat]. >> Yeah. >> So and y'all know I wear a robe every. like that's what I wear. I and people.

really think that I'm being cute like, "Oh, he's just wearing that for for. views." No, I don't like clothes, okay? So, I sleep naked. So, when I wake up, I. throw on a robe and nine times out of. 10, like, I am getting up at 6:00 a.m. to go put horses up before it gets hot. and feed them and do all that. So, I'm. doing all that before I ever have my. coffee. >> So, like that's the first thing that I'm. doing. So, a lot of times I'll just be. walking down there just being like, "Baby, when that thing gets a thinging, you know, just. >> Have they ever looked at you sideways?". Oh, they look at me sideways every day.

They're like, "Here comes this [ __ ]. again.". >> Just judgmental as. >> Yeah, they are. >> What's the biggest lie you've told. without getting caught? >> Biggest lie I've told without getting. caught. >> I don't know because my problem is I. don't lie. I'm too honest. So, I get in. trouble for that. >> Yeah. >> Um, biggest lie I've told. >> Um, >> you can pass if you need to. >> Yeah. I don't I really don't know. >> Gotcha. Weirdest DM you've ever gotten? [clears throat]. >> Straight men that were that are married.

They come to my shows with their wives. >> Yeah. >> And then they they'll DM me after the. show like, "You want to come over?" No. I don't. Or they'll send me pictures of. their. >> themselves or like with their wives. >> Yeah. Both. >> Really? >> I'm like, first of all, you think I'm. about to [ __ ] you? Absolutely not. Yeah. >> Okay. Second of all, >> what if it was somebody really hot. though? >> I mean, okay. >> Are you and your husband open or. >> No. So, okay. But here's the here's the. tea on that though. Okay. So, I was in a. throppple at one point. >> Um, it didn't last very long.

[clears throat] Uh, I'd never done that. before. >> I've done a throppple before. >> And you have done it before. Did it? Well, obviously it didn't work, but. [laughter]. >> it it was it was it was very weird to. me. So, my husband is very much not not. jealous. Like, he's like he's like, "If. you wanted to go [ __ ] you could." Like, he doesn't care. >> I cannot think like that. I think more. like a girl, right? My husband's very. much a straight man. Yeah. Like he just. likes Tallywhacker, you know? So I just. >> when he says Tallywhacker, I think of a.

jar of pickles. >> I know. I'm like I don't [laughter] know. why I say that. >> I love I say tally whacker. So I love. when I think of it though, I just think. of like a jar of pickles. >> So it's very strange to me how he can. think that way and not I mean like truly. he could be like you're on tour, a hot. guy messages you, okay? >> That's how my husband is. And it took me. the longest time because I'm like you. for the for the longest time I got so. offended and I was like why are you not. jealous? Why are you not fighting for. me? But then I realize that that's not. what love is. Love is freedom you know. and like yes okay if if a man tells you.

to go sleep with somebody else. Nobody. wants to hear that from their. significant other. So I think that they. could have other ways of saying it. But. I also think that maybe that's their way. of not getting hurt too. >> Well I think for him was I we had a deep. conversation about it. I was like, "How. do you how are you okay with that?" And. he said, "We've been together for 11. years.". >> He said, "I know how much you adore me. I know how much you love me. I know how. much I love you." He was like, "And I. know that you are never going to go.

sleep with somebody and not come home.". And I'm like, "Well, number one, I've. never done it." Like, cuz I just can't. >> Not that I don't like a little, you. know, a little talagger every once in a. while, but like strange. >> I to me I'm like, "Nobody's going to do. it as good as he does. He's had 10 years. of practice, you know. Um, but it is. it's very weird to me. So, he would. absolutely be okay with it if I wanted. to. But then again, it's like, how am I. going to go do that and then somebody. not post all over the internet that they. >> Exactly. And that's what I've told my. husband, too. I'm like, how am I.

supposed to just find which I don't want. go sleep with random men either because. one, I have OCD, and two, I just. people's energy freaks me out and it's. like, I don't want your energy inside of. me. I don't know you. I don't, you know, like. >> it's not it's not possible. But I mean, >> have you guys ever had. >> No. And he wants to he wants to so bad, but I'm like I'm I'm terrified because I. will spiral. What? Like what if they're. hotter than me? >> No. You know, >> you're so handsome. >> Then then or like what if they're not. hotter than me? Then like what am I, [laughter].

you know? Like I'm I'm so I'm like this. is not Build-a-Bear. Like [laughter]. what are we doing? you know, so I'm very. he would love it and like he would be. all about again very typical man. Very. typical man. And I am just like so. that's kind of how the whole like. throppple thing started. >> One more question. Who's messier? You, your husband, or the goats? >> The goats. >> The goats. >> They stank. Oh my god. Y'all don't have. goats, right? >> I will. I refuse.

>> Don't do it. >> It's a trap. A billy gut will piss in. his beard to attract the females. >> How does he reach? >> You ain't never seen one of them things. >> No, >> girl. They like this long. >> No. >> And I got to They got They suck their. own tally whackers. >> Oh god. >> And then he pisses in his beard and it. stinks. Oh, it's just it's. about throw up. >> What's wrong with that dude? It. >> it's it's a it's atrocious. >> That sounds like my bull. My bull was. getting really and he was like chairs.

like it was crazy. We can't. >> He tried to mount a chair last night. while I was on it. And then I woke up. this morning and he took all my chairs. and just threw them everywhere. [laughter] Like he hading night last. night. >> See, >> it's crazy how farm animals have. personalities, right? Wild. >> No, they are wild. >> But they're like little souls that. really are like they're like. >> just little humans like that can't. speak. >> It's crazy. It's wild. Moving on. You. talk very openly about your childhood.

And you actually wrote a book in 2019, a. memoir called Uncovered, the naked truth. of life, love, and addiction. >> Damn, you do your homework before these. >> That's right, [laughter] baby. That's. what I'm here for. And you know, we. talked a little bit about about your. sisters um and I believe your brother in. the beginning of the podcast. and you. know, can you take me on that journey of. growing up and in a family with. addiction and just how you made it. through that? >> Yeah. You know, I think every family has.

their demons and their battles and mine. was I grew up in government housing with. an alcoholic mom and we lived in the. projects of Bessemer, Alabama. And I. always tell people I'm like if you have. never heard of Bessemer, all you got to. do is watch the first 48 because we're. on every episode. Literally, Alabama is. so not to cut you off, but I'm. [clears throat] from Vegas and I grew up. on the east side of Vegas, Vegas, which. is pretty ghetto. Um, >> our ghettos on the west coast do not.

come close to comparing to the ghettos. that are in the country. It is a whole. different vibe. >> And Bessmer is Bessmer was actually. voted number one crimerated city in the. country. Yeah. >> So, like it's a really bad bad area. And. um but to me, I mean, like that's my. home, you know what I mean? I don't give. a Yeah, I ain't scared, you know? I walk. around best like that's big best. It. don't it don't bother me. But I lived in. government housing with my mom and I was. the only white gay kid in the. neighborhood, you know? So life was. >> Did you Did you always know that you.

were gay? >> Oh, yeah. I wanted to Uncle Jesse in the. fourth grade, you know, [laughter] like. from full house. Oo, baby. >> John Samos was fine, though. >> He's still fine. Yeah. >> I would the dust off that old man. I'm. telling you. >> He's like 411, isn't he? He's so Don't. tell me that. >> No, he's like. [laughter]. >> No, you just broke my heart. Somebody. Google that. >> Give it a go. >> He can't be four. >> No, listen. Google lies though. But he's. definitely 5'2. [laughter].

>> I know. >> I'm not lying. No, he's not. >> He's got to be. >> No, he's not. No, he's not. >> No, he's not. >> I just almost threw up a little bit. >> He's not. >> I have wanted to fly for 25 years. >> Search more. He is not 6 foot. He's. not that short. I don't feel like. >> Okay. I'm friends with Josh. Do you know. Josh Peek from Drake and Josh? >> No, I don't. Do we know Josh Peek? >> Okay. So, Josh Josh Peek I've I'm. friends with him and he did a him and. John did a show together.

>> Yeah. >> And. >> should we call Josh and ask him how. tall? >> I have to call Josh and be like, "Hey, >> call Josh right now and ask him how tall. John is." cuz I'm willing. Yeah, we're. calling in a lifeline because I have. heard from other people who have met him. that he is very short. >> I don't know if he's going to answer or. not, but we're going to call him. >> He does wear lifts. I heard he wears. lifts. >> Stop. >> Rebecca Roma Stamos is the one that said. that. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> This is the most random question for you. ever. I'm in the middle of filming a. podcast with with Bunny and we I was.

talking about I wanted to when I was in. the fourth grade and she said that he's. 411. Is [laughter] he really that short? >> No. No, he's he's properly tall. Like. six feet. >> See? Properly tall. Wow. That's what we. needed to know. >> Tall. >> Thank you, Josh. I love you. >> Thank you, Josh. >> I hope it happens between you and John. I can help. >> You're You're so good to me. Bye.

>> That's crazy because Rebecca Roma Stamos. I thought went on like this whole spree. when they got a divorce talking about. how short he was and how he wears. lipstick. >> He's properly 6' tall. >> There you go. How tall are you? >> 5'11. >> There you go. >> Just like I like him just a smidge. taller. Actually, [laughter] I like him. 6' five. You know, I want to be able to. climb him like a tree. >> How old or how tall is your husband? >> Six foot. >> Is he six foot? Yeah. >> Yeah. He's just. >> Would he Would you guys be willing to. bring John Stamos in as a third? Yeah, absolutely. >> John, John, >> we need to make this happen.

>> I'm here, baby. [laughter]. >> So, you So, you knew ever since that you. were a little boy that you love. >> Like, I've never That's the thing, too. Like, I've never been attracted to a. woman, like never sexually, like in my. whole life, like even as a young young. kid, like I've never been. And I tell. people all the time when they're like, "Oh, when did you decide to be gay?" Or, "When would you know that it was a. choice?" And I'm like, "It's not a. choice." And people don't understand. that. And I say to that, I'm like, "A. straight person? When did you choose to. be straight?" And they're like, "I. didn't. It I just was." And I was like, "Exactly. So if you didn't choose to be.

straight, what makes you think that I. had the just theing great decision to. choose my sexuality?" Like we don't. >> That's why I always say, "When did you. know?". >> Right. >> And and so I knew very young like I. never once have I ever been attracted to. a woman. Like I can obviously like I. think you're stunning. You know what I. mean? And I can think that a woman's. beautiful, but I'm not attracted to. them. >> Absolutely. And um so I've always even. as a very young kid I've always been and. my sister's a lesbian so like clearly. you know like this is there um.

>> it's in the DNA. >> Yeah for sure. And so my mom was an. alcoholic you know she really struggled. with alcoholism. That was her drug of. choice. Um and prescription drugs like. that was that was her vice. Uh my. brother and sister were both addicts as. well. Um I didn't really have a a great. relationship with my brother growing up. We never really got along. Uh I remember. as a young kid like he would he was the. type that he was always very hard into. drugs. >> What's the age difference between you?

>> 11 years. So they're twins. >> Oh wow. Okay. >> So uh they're 11 years older than me. And like I remember as a kid I would get. like a bicycle or something for. Christmas and he would take it and pawn. it for drug money. >> Um and it's it's really weird because I. was very close to my sister. I adored. her. I thought she walked on water. Like. I mean I I remember I would go stay with. my grandmother in South Carolina for the. summer and I wouldn't leave the house. because I thought my sister was going to. call. You know what I mean? Like I was. so we were we were like this I.

>> Was she kind of like your mother figure? >> I mean kind of. Yeah. Like we were very. very close. I would go stay with her all. the time. I mean we were just we were. very very close. And then as I got older. I saw her addiction as well. She was. better at hiding it. And I saw what now. our our I call her my birth mother. Um. so our birth mom died in 2007 to her. addiction. My dad has been a car. salesman for 30 years. So he didn't get. custody of me until I was 9 years old. >> So.

>> So dad was never in the picture. >> Not when I lived I mean he was I would. see him on the weekends but my mom had. custody of me and I lived with her until. I was nine. >> Okay. Um, and then my as I got older, I. saw the addiction with my sister and I. saw I was like, I can't, you know, like. I can't be a part of it. So, I had to. cut both of them off. I haven't had. contact with them in years. My birth mom. died in 2007 from um she now she did get. sober from alcohol. She went to AA the. last year of her life. Um, and she got. sober from that, but she was still.

abusing prescription drugs and she mixed. two drugs that weren't supposed to be. mixed together and died in her sleep in. 2007. And then my dad got custody of my. dad had already had custody of custody. of me at this point. Uh I was he got. custody of me when I was nine. And then. he remarried. So he remarried the woman. that I called mom. So like this woman. was absolutely everything to me. She. like you know she raised me from nine. on. She had horses. So that's where that. I've always been obsessed with horses.

but I never had the opportunity to have. horses or ride horses or anything like. that. And so she had horses and I. thought she was everything, you know? So. she taught me how to ride horses and she. was a CRNA so she put people to sleep. for surgery. So she was really smart and. like her family like embraced me and. they became my cuz I didn't have much of. a family. >> Um and they embraced me and they became. my family and they loved me. Um and then. I you know I just I still didn't have. any real relationship with my brother. and sister after that. Um, and then she.

passed away in 2015. So I lost my. biological mom and then I lost her in. 2015. So that really kind of, you know, just kind of showed me like. >> the things that in life that are really. important, right? So it really kind of. it gave me a great relationship with my. dad. We didn't have a great relationship. growing up. We fought a lot. We didn't. see eye to eye. Um, I moved from. >> government housing with an alcoholic mom. to a trailer park with a Marine dad. And. I thought that life was going to be so. much better. Baby, it was no better. It.

was worse. It was It was worse. Uh we. >> That's very traumatic, too, because. you're going from one, you know, >> one extreme. >> One fire into another. And. >> that's that's. very known to be very abusive. >> Yeah. And And he wasn't he was never. physically abusive as he was more. verbally abusive. Like he just And it. wasn't that he was really verbally. abusive. He just had no patience. M. >> so like he would just yell at me or like.

you know it was just very like we just. never got along. So we spent most of our. time apart. Um I remember when he and my. mom my mom and him split before she she. moved to Tennessee and got remarried. before she and that's when she passed. away. But I remember in high school um. when they split they split when I was. probably 16. And so, uh, you know, she. had moved to her own place and I was. still in high school and I still lived. with him. And he I think he's a lot of. the reason why I am the way that I am.

today and successful because he would. say, "Here's $100. This is for your. grocery money this week." And he would. go to the bars and he would, you know, hang out. He would go to his. girlfriend's house and spend the night. with his girlfriend. So, I'm 16 years. old, living on my own, figure it out. >> in this house. And um at the time I. hated him, you know, but now I look back. and I'm like I'm thankful for how he. raised me that way because now I'm I'm. good with money and I'm able to, you. know, be I'm able to stand on my own two.

feet because of how he raised me and I'm. very open that we didn't have a good. relationship growing up and we. >> fought and we buted heads and it wasn't. good. But now he's my best friend, >> you know, and it was it was really when. I came out and I was, you know, I came. out when I was 19. [ __ ] come on now. >> Yeah. >> You know, like you knew you knew when I. was playing with Little Mermaid Barbie. dolls, like you knew that I was. >> Were you scared to to come out to him? >> Yeah, I was terrified because I was. terrified because I thought that he was.

going to write me off. >> and I didn't have any family, you know, like he was really the only family that. I had like besides, you know, I did have. my my mom's family. >> Did your sister know that you were gay? >> Yeah, my sister always knew, you know, cuz she was a lesbian, too. you know, she was licking on carpet, so she knew. like. >> hopefully not Bush. >> Yeah, probably the [laughter] Bush. Um, but I mean, she always knew like she. never really said anything or made a big. deal out of it. And it's funny because. now my aunt is the one that she kind of. came out for me. She's she's my my mom, not my biological mom, my mom's sister.

She became my best friend, you know, like. >> you love chosen family. >> She Yes. >> Cuz I have chosen family. >> And she became my best friend. And I. remember I was laying in the bed with. her one night and she was on the phone. with my mom and she was like, "We got to. find Matt a boyfriend." And I was like, "What?". She was like, "We got to find Matt a. boyfriend." And I was like, "What you. what you talk about?" Or and I would. tell her like I'd be I was like, "I got. a date." And she was like, "Is it with a. girl or is it with a boy?" And I'm like,

>> "Munch [laughter] your business, you. know?" So I I. >> But how amazing to feel seen in that. moment. >> Absolutely. and and they were very much. like you are who you are, you love who. you love, you got to be who you got to. be. So they were such a such a like. strong like solid ground and foundation. for me because they allowed me to be who. I was. >> Did anybody at school know were you out. at school? >> I never really came out at school. Obviously people knew I was gay. Like. it's not it's not the biggest secret in. the world. Like I always say like I'm.

not the I'm not the like the most. flamboyant like I don't wear makeup or. like shopping and you know stuff like. that. I'm not that gay but obviously you. can tell that I'm gay you know like. there's there's there's levels of. gayness right you know I don't get my. nails done like I live on a farm and you. know but you know there's definitely you. my husband is the type of man you. wouldn't know he's gay if you met him. like you would never know me you're like. oh. >> he's gay as hell. Yeah. >> Um, so I was definitely picked on in.

school, not because people knew I was, not because I was openly out cuz I was. so terrified of that, but because people. knew. So like people would ask, they. they would call me name, they would call. me [ __ ] or like you know, whatever. They would like the jocks, like if I. ever went to a football game, they would. like I remember one night I was at a. football game and one of the guys like. threw a threw a football at me and like. I had caught it and he was like he came. up to me, he's like he's like, "Hey, are. you gay?" You know, and they would do. stuff like that. The thing about me was. I grew up in the projects, you know, so.

and I was the only white gay there white. gay kid there. So like you had to stand. up for yourself, you know. I always tell. people like you couldn't live in the. projects and be this fabulous without. knowing how to swing on a hoe. >> Can I was going to say, can you throw a. pause? >> Yeah. So I can I can hold my own, you. know? Like I'll bust a need to. And so I. never let people walk all over me. Like. you might try to pick on me, but you. weren't going to lay your hands on me. cuz I'd scrub the ground with your ass, you know? Yeah. >> And so I never was like beat up or put. in lockers cuz I would clown on you and.

I would like cuss you out. >> Did you always have your sassy sense of. humor ever since childhood? >> I always used to get put out of class in. school because of my mouth. >> and it's so funny to me cuz I'm like now. I get paid for it. >> Yeah. I'm sorry. I got something stuck. on my foot over here. My whole life's. falling apart over here. Um so you were. pretty much like the class clown. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And and I don't know, >> but it's because you came from such dark. beginnings that if you don't learn to. laugh and have some sort ofing humor, you're going it's going to eat you. alive. It's going to swallow you.

>> And I think that is the best comedians. out there are the ones that come from. trauma, you know. know, and I tell. people all the time that, you know, I. realized the reason that I'm successful. is because I saw my mom and I saw I. remember one night we lived, like I. said, we lived in in the projects and we. were laying in bed one night and I just. heard people arguing like where our we. had one we had a one-bedroom apartment, so we slept in the same room and um like. outside of our window was right out to. like the staircase that went down to the. next level and I heard these people.

fighting outside and it was two guys and. a girl and they were fighting and then. they started shooting each other. Jeez. >> And my mom opened the window and she. puts her head out the window and she's. like, "I got a baby trying to sleep in. here." My mama was a thug. Like, I mean, long red fingernails, [clears throat]. wore gold rings on every finger, gold. chain necklaces, and she would fight. She beat up my fourth grade teacher in a. parent teacher conference. >> Over what? Over what? >> Because uh my my I was pretending to. smoke a cigarette with a Cheeto. [laughter]. >> and um I didn't want to get in trouble,

so I lied to my mom. I was like, "I. didn't do that." So, my mom like. believed everything I told her. >> and my I still have the planner. I just. posted a YouTube video of it where her. and my mom are like arguing back and. forth in my planner. And my mom's like, "Matt did not pretend to smoke a. cigarette with a Cheeto and did not. deserve to be put on red cuz I got put. on red that day.". >> Yeah. >> And my teacher wrote back and she was. like, "Yes, he did. He admitted it. Blah. blah blah blah." She was like, "I want. to have a parent teacher conference.". And my mom's like, "That's fine. Bet.". you know. So, we get to the conference.

and I'm in the back of the room crying. and my mom's there with a white wife. beater tank top, her fake Louis Vuitton. purse, like all of her gold rings, her. nails, and she went to say something and. my teacher put her finger in her face. >> Oh. >> She was like, "Sh, now I see where Matt. gets his disrespect from.". And my mom stood up and she put her. purse on the ground and she grabbed her. by the back of her head and she pulled. her out of the over the chair and she. starts beating the of her and that I. mean my mom would fight like she would.

fight anybody. >> Yeah. And this is before people called. the cops on people. >> I mean she did go to jail but um and she. out of a Walmart greet her one time cuz. the lady asked to see the receipt for. the rug that she just stole. I mean I it. was just like. >> I kind of love mom and. >> she was crazy as hell. And it's it's. funny because growing up I hated her. because of just her addiction. And now. as I look back at her I'm like, man, she. loved me so fiercely. >> She did. She just had so many demons and. she didn't have anybody to help her. You. know, she didn't know how to.

>> battle those demons and how to succeed. and win. >> Yeah. Um, but now I look back and I'm. like, man, she did the best she knew. how, you know, and she loved me so much, but she just didn't she didn't know she. didn't know how to how to be a mom. really, you know, and that that's what. ultimately, you know, her addiction is. Her addiction won. But and that's why. I'm so so like open about mental health. and addiction because people don't. realize how how strong that that has on.

that stronghold that it has on people. It's it's such a thing that it's swept. under the rug. Yeah. And had she had. help, had she had somebody to, you know, walk her through. >> her trauma, >> her trauma, and she had a lot of trauma. So, it's like she didn't have good. relationships with her parents. And so, it's like had she had someone to help. her, >> things could have been totally different. for her. >> Yeah. Isn't it crazy as we get older. that we can see our parents through that. lens? because I grew up hating my entire. family so much that um I got to spend.

the last years of each one of my. parents' life. I left home at 14 and I. got to forgive them for the childhood. that I had. And then when I saw just how. sad and unhealed they were, it was. almost like I was like. >> it like freed up my heart. Yeah. >> Because I was just like, you know what? >> You can't be angry anymore. >> Yeah. It's like you you become their. parent in a way and you're just kind of. like, man, you know, like this you were. put here on this earth to teach me this.

lesson. >> and to be able to look at it through the. lens that you're looking at it is super. beautiful. >> Well, and and the crazy thing to me is I. don't regret a single minute of it. because. >> maybe if I had a cooker cuty cooker cut. damn, I just had a [laughter] stroke. Cooker cutter cook. God damn. What is Am. I on? Am I slow? [laughter] If I had a. cookie cutter life, I probably wouldn't. be the person I am, you know? I probably.

wouldn't be successful. Like, I would. >> I would probably be just like my. siblings. >> Yeah, that's how I feel, too, cuz my. little sister got to live and I don't I. very rarely talk about my little sister. because I still try to protect her, but. she got to live the childhood that I. never got with both parents together, going to prom, my dad taking her to. prom, never never having chores and like. being abused the way I was and she's a. mess. She's a drug addict. She's just. she's not okay. >> I think when you see what it can do to a.

person and what it can how it can ruin. their lives and take everything from. them, you know, that was my thing was I. made a promise to myself the night that. my mom stuck her head out that window. and and yelled at the people shooting. each other. I I literally I thought this. is the night that we're going to die. I. thought that and I remember thinking I. will not be like the rest of my family. I will not have this for myself. I will. never live like this. And I promised. myself that if I ever have to ask. somebody for money, if I ever have to. ask somebody for anything, I don't want. it. [clears throat] And. >> hyper independence is a trauma response.

>> It's a trauma response. Yeah. And and. now another trauma response that we've. been talking about is so there's a. there's actually a something I don't. know the name, [ __ ] I can't even say. cookie, but [laughter] um. >> cookie cutter. But there is a it's a. trauma response of so scared of being. poor again, you know, like and that is. something that I struggle with every day. is now I make good money, I make a good. living, I work my ass off and I'm so. terrified of being poor again because of. that trauma. >> Yeah. No, it's I don't know what it's.

called either, but I I you and I have. bonded over that is I feel the same. exact way. Like I will stuff. It took my. h my husband literally was like you need. to get an accountant. Like you need a. bookkeeper. It took me so long to let. somebody into my money because I was. just like, >> you know, just held it so close to my. chest. And being in this business, you. have to have somebody that's managing. your money cuz you can't do it yourself. >> I I got in so much trouble because I. would have all of the money that I made. in my bank account.

>> Me too. Like I mean I'd have all of that. money in one account. >> And when I hired my business manager, he. was like, "What the [ __ ] are you doing?". >> Same. And they put it in like five. different accounts. >> Yeah. And he's like, "You do realize. that the bank can only guarantee you. like $275,000.". And I'm like, "What about all this. money?" He's like, "You're [ __ ] if. something happened to the bank." I'm. like, >> "Oh, >> yep.". >> You know, I don't teach they don't teach. you that. >> They don't teach you that in school. >> They should teach you that. And I feel. like they should teach you a credit. class. They should teach you a like.

home. Like he's over here sawing logs, dude. They should teach you like how to. like run your business in school. You. should have to go to college and take. >> I learned nothing in school. >> Yeah. Me neither. Me either. >> Like I mean. >> I learned division. >> Yeah. >> Multiplication that I don't use for. anything. >> that we don't use. It is absolutely. insane to me that I'm like, what was. even the point? >> Yeah. No, for sure. Moving on real quick. though. I want to talk to you. It says. that you started nursing school before. trading your scrubs for a camera and you.

bought that camera with your graduation. money. Yeah. >> Take me on that journey because you. ended up building an empire doing. something that is very unlikely. I did. not see. >> you didn't know that. We didn't talk. about that. >> Yeah. I did not see this coming. >> Yeah. So I when I was 17, I got a job at. Walmart portrait studios. I co-oped in. school which means I got to leave school. early to go to work. So I had to have a. job. And um I applied at Walmart. Portrait Studios, you know, like. clicking a little thing, taking. pictures, people like Sears, you know, >> fun though. And. >> as a 17-year-old making 850 an hour,

like they close at 6:00, you don't have. to work Sundays, like I was like, "This. is everything." Cuz all my friends were. waiting tables. >> That's a moment in time, too, cuz they. don't do that. >> They don't do it anymore. Yeah. >> And so I started to do that, and again, I told you my mom, not my biological. mom, but my mom was a nurse anesthetist. So she put people to sleep for. surgeries. So, I saw how successful she. was and I saw like the life that she had. and I was like that's that's what I'm. going to do. I always wanted to be an. entertainer. Um, but I never I always.

wanted to do music. I always wanted to. entertain but I never pursued that cuz I. didn't sing as a child. >> Yeah. Yeah. So, I always sang I sang in. the talent shows and like. >> I remember my dad used to take me to. this redneck bar every Tuesday. >> and I would sing karaoke. >> I love the bonding. >> Yeah. A bar. >> Yeah. That's my husband. His dad used to. take him to bars. >> Yeah. >> So he would take me to a bar every. Tuesday night and I would sing karaoke. and it became like this thing and people. would start people started to come to. the bar on Tuesdays to hear me sing. And. I remember my little gay ass was up. there singing Martina McBride, you know,

Broken Wing. >> That's a hard one. >> Yeah. And and um. >> Can you sing it? >> I mean, probably not now, but I. [laughter] I mean, >> you know, I'm going to put you on a. spot. >> At that point, I could sing, you know, like and I remember I went to a talent. show. >> You said not now. I mean I mean I still. got a little chops but um I was just so. terrified you know like I didn't I. didn't know like I never took vocal. lessons. I never I was just singing you. know yourself selft talk. >> Yeah. And uh my dad took me every.

Tuesday and it was just a thing and we. we just loved it. And um I would I would. sing those songs cuz that's what my mom. listened to, you know. >> And um so. >> what was we talking about? >> We were talking about taking the. pictures too. >> Taking the pictures. So, I got a job at. Walmart and I knew that I always wanted. to do music or I wanted to do. entertainment and I was too scared to. pursue that cuz I thought that was way. too out of the the possibilities of. things that were going to happen for me. that I I'm not in an area where I'll. ever get to do anything in that in that.

space. But, I've always been like this. outlandish personality. I've always been. goofy. I've always been musical. I. taught myself how to play guitar. I. taught myself how to play piano. Like. all these things. And so, I got that job. and I just really enjoyed it. And so. when I graduated high school, I took all. the graduation money. >> and I went to Sam's Club and I bought a. Canon Rebel kit, like the kit, lens, the. the cameras and everything. And I just. started doing photography and I didn't I. wasn't good at it at first, obviously, but I got really good and I started. doing weddings and I was a wedding.

photographer for several years. And. >> what's one of the craziest weddings that. you've had? Like a crazy wedding story. A mom and a bride got in a fist fight. during their getting ready photos and I. was like. >> the actual mother. >> Yes. She was beating the [ __ ] out of. her. We weave flying everywhere and I. was like oh [ __ ] Weebie wanted to done. come through. I was like this this ain't. it. And I was like y'all can run me my. check. >> because I don't get paid enough for. this. >> So I remember I was like this is not for.

me, you know? Like I don't want to do. this anymore. I'm in the south where. every weekend I'm in the heat like dying. of heat stroke and I had a bride ask me. to take pictures of her in lingerie. >> and I was like. >> [ __ ] I don't know how to do that like. are you what? But I did and they became. like the most they were the most. beautiful photos and I was like okay. She was like, "I feel so pretty." And I. was like, "Oh, okay." And she got a big. picture of of one of the photos printed. and put in her bedroom. And I was like,

"Okay." So, I started doing budoir. photography. And uh I was I did that and. it started really blowing up and like. really doing really really well for me. and so I quit weddings. >> Did it blow up from word of mouth or. like were you online? Yeah, this was. well before I like got into, you know, Tik Tok or like this is this is like. 2015 era. 2014, 2015. So, my husband and. I bought our first house 2015 and it had.

this 300 foot room on the back and I. made it a studio and I started my. budwoir business there. I had nothing. but a bed and I hung a chandelier over. the bed and I had a little white couch. >> Chandelier makes everything look better. >> I will add a chandelier to every room in. my house if [clears throat] I can. >> Yep. And it just I was I never grew up. loving my body, you know. I was always. very self-conscious. I would swim with a. shirt on, you know, like. >> you have a great figure. >> I was but I was always a chunky kid, you. know, and and even even though I'm. smaller now, like I you know, I still.

got I ain't got no abs, right? And and. like that's what I you know, I never. never loved my body. Always very. critical of myself. Didn't love what I. saw in the mirror. And so I started. photographing women and showing them how. beautiful they were. and they were in. lingerie and they were in sheets and it. was like kind of taboo at the time, but. it blew up and people were like, "I've. never felt so beautiful. Like, you just. showed me a side that I've never seen. before.". >> Um, >> is it true that you gave your mom a a. budoir shoot?

>> Mhm. >> How fun was that? >> So, in 2014 for her birthday, I was. like, "Mom, she never loved her body.". So, I was like, "Let me photograph you.". And I photographed a budoir session for. her and she was like, "I've never felt. so beautiful." And after that, it lit a. fire in me and I just I just started. doing budoir full-time. I got really. really good. I started teaching. workshops. I started speaking at. conventions and it just like blew up. It. was absolutely insane. >> I want to see some of your work.

>> Yeah, I'll show you cuz I love budoir. That's how I got here was I was an. Instagram thought. So, >> okay. So, you know what's so funny? I've. seen like the photos of you and I'm like. when I I was like. >> if I could have photographed her when I. was a budwart photographer. >> Yeah, >> that would have been Dude, we would have. made magic. We could do it. >> Wait, what if I came out of retirement? >> I'll come out of retirement to let you. >> What if we come out of retirement. together? >> Let's do it. >> Oh my god. >> Yeah, of course. >> That would be that would we'd break the.

internet, >> dude. I'm ready. >> So, that's what happened for me on Tik. Tok was I started showing me. photographing clients on Tik Tok. >> Okay. I posted a video and it got 17. million views. >> Yeah. >> And I was like I I It was me like. picking a client's hips up and I was. like we did this pose called the titty. crusher. Yeah. >> And I'd have them lay completely flat on. the ground and then I would like have to. help them walk their knees up underneath. them and put their butt in the air. >> Oh yeah. I do that pose all the time. >> Yeah. And like stagger their feet. >> That's the Carmen electro pose. >> Remember this video? >> Oh, did you see it?

>> This video. >> Yeah. >> Pull it up. Can we pull it up? >> Let's pull it up and see it really. quick. And it got like 17 million views. >> Yeah. >> And uh it it like went crazy. >> So was that your first viral video? >> Yeah, that was my very first taste of of. virality, right? That's crazy. >> And I was booking so much and I was. making a ton of money. I started my I. opened my first studio downtown. Like it. was insane. >> Um and it was incredible, you know. I I.

mean people were coming. Other. photographers were coming to learn from. me and it was just. >> It probably gave you such a purpose. though because not only are you making. these women feel beautiful, but you're. also creating art and you're like I. don't know, you're just like in charge. It's your business. Like it's got to be. so fulfilling. >> Absolutely. And I felt so good making. people feel so good. That was like the. big thing to me. Yeah, >> I remember I had a client come in and. she had had a double masectomy and I. photographed her and like before her. reconstruction and she was like, "Oh my.

god, like I like I'm beautiful." And I'm. like, "Yeah, you are." You know, like. seeing them come in being so timid, not. loving their body, not feeling. comfortable, and seeing them walk out. with their head high. >> was just like, "Oh man, it gives me. chills to think about it because like. >> I love that that part of my life. Like I. love that journey still. >> Would you ever like once all of this, you know, the the touring and the music. and all that comes to an end, would you. ever like think of like maybe just. redoing it and like.

>> Well, so we still retirement years. We. still have my budoir business and my. associate Brianna who's been with me for. 8 years. Um she still photographs. clients. Oh wow. >> And it's still under my name. It's still. my studio and you know her work looks. identical to mine and so she still. shoots. So, like we still have that. business and it's it's amazing and I was. like we worked so hard to build that. I. was like just because I'm touring and. doing all the things now we're not. letting that go. >> Um, so it was. >> it was just really it was a really cool.

thing but deep down. >> there was something missing, right? >> You know, and I was like I want to I. want to be on stage, you know, like. >> I want to I wanted to sing and but I. still never pursued that. And what. started to happen for me was Tik Tok. started deleting my videos. >> because of the budwoir. They just did. another community upline update. >> I saw. >> Yeah. I'm like, >> well, and they were they had started. deleting everything that I was posting. for community guidelines and adult.

nudity, even though nobody was ever. nude. And so I was like I had built a. following of like 2 million at that. point. And I was like, I don't want to. lose my account, you know, like what do. I do? So I I quit posting. So from then. I pivoted and I started doing how to. take sexy sexy selfies. So I'd be like. put your phone up, put it on a video and. I would show them how to pose and I'd be. like now screenshot that hoe and send it. out. You know and then that started. blowing up and everybody was like oh my. god your personality and so then I was.

like okay well they're going to delete. everything I'm posting so I'll pivot. again. So I pivoted to start showing my. personal life which was my farm. That's. how we are as hustlers coming up from. the backgrounds that we did is like. you're always going to figure out a way. >> I'll figure it out. Yeah. Absolutely. So. I was like, "Okay, so where do we go. now?" So I was like, "All right, so I'll. pivot to farm. I'll start showing my. farm and my ridiculous life of I'm out. in this robe every day cussing these. chickens out. I'll start showing it to. people.". >> Was this during co. >> during co Okay. Yeah. the first and I.

remember like the first video got had I. mean it got like million 13 million. views and I gained over a half a million. followers overnight and I was like the. [ __ ]. >> the crazy thing is is like you had never. hit my FYP until people started tagging. you and now your [ __ ] is all over my FYP. like it is I can't scroll without seeing. something from you or somebody tagging. you in something or like it's it's crazy. how much people just love you. >> well they love you just as much so. >> well I appreciate well they love to hate.

me and they hate to love you. >> Well, well, same. [laughter] I mean, I. think it's I think that's anybody that's. in the industry, you know, like. especially when somebody you don't know. that somebody's somebody that's. successful, you know, like if somebody. has success, >> people always want to [ __ ] on that. >> Yeah. It's always the ones who I would. never trade lives with that have bad. things to say. There is so much more. love than there is. Yes. Yeah. Um and. it's just a really cool feeling. And I I. I remember seeing comments of people. saying, "You made me smile. You made me.

laugh when I haven't laughed in weeks. >> Yeah. >> You made me You brightened my day. And. then again, same feeling of as budoir. I. was like, that made me feel good that I. made somebody feel good. >> And so, everybody was like, Matt, you. have to do you have to do comedy. You. have to do comedy. You have to be a. comedian. I'd never watched comedy. I'd. never, you know, never watch standup. It. was never something that I wanted to do. Like, I wanted to do music, >> right? >> And but I was like, I'm never going to. pursue music. It's never going to be. something that I do. >> Why did you think that you just couldn't.

do it? >> I just didn't think I was good enough, >> right? >> So, I was like, this is the next best. thing, >> right? >> I'll be on stage. I'll be performing and. I'm doing something that's easy for me, which is making people laugh, >> right? >> So, I being a stand-up comedian is not. easy. >> Oh, it is. [laughter] It is hard. You. know, >> like it's [ __ ] You got to command a I. think that's harder than singing. >> Oh, 100%. >> You have to like really wow a crowd with. your [ __ ] humor. And if a joke. doesn't land, that's your neck. >> Yes. And but what's so funny to me is.

it's the easiest thing I've ever done. >> A. >> it is the I mean it is I can get on a. stage in front of thousands of people. that I don't know and make them laugh. Mhm. >> And for me, it's all about we all. struggle with something. >> And to make somebody come into a room. and to sit down in a room with thousands. of people that you don't know and watch. this ridiculous man on stage tell you. stories and forget about the [ __ ]. outside for 90 minutes of your day. That's what it's about for me.

>> Yes. >> And so I I decided to try standup. And. at this point, I had already had pretty. decent following online and from my. budoir videos and from my farm chores. >> So, I decided to give it a shot. And the. very first show that I ever did, it sold. out in 2 minutes. Wow. >> And I was like, what the [ __ ]. >> Like, I don't even know what I'm doing. I've never done this. Never opened. >> I was going to say, you didn't practice. >> No. Never opened mics. Never. I opened. for two the comedy club in my hometown. They were like, hey, let's have you come.

in. >> You can open up for two comics. I had 5. minutes for the first one. I had 10. minutes for the second one. That's all. I'd ever done. Wow. >> And then I did my own show and sold it. out. And I was like, "What the [ __ ] am I. going to do?" I didn't know. So I got up. there and just started running my mouth. [laughter]. >> and they were. >> Didn't have anything planned. Nothing. >> No. >> Wow. >> Cuz when I when I opened it was horrible. because I had like memorized this. [ __ ] Easter speech, you know? Like it. wasn't good because I had like this. monologue that I memorized and then I.

was like, "Fuck this. I'm just going to. say whatever comes to my mind. And I. will never forget like I had a lady come. that a lady like this is the first time. I'd ever done this, mind you. I had a. and I'd never watched standup so I. didn't really know what to do but I. remember this lady had this big blonde. hair and it was like huge and she got up. in the middle of the show went to the. bathroom and I said, "Teresa Caputo, where the [ __ ] are [laughter] you. going?" And I just remember everybody. like falling out of their chairs and I. was like, "Oo, I got them." you know, and um that's really kind of when like.

the crowd work kind of was really. flowing, you know. >> I've seen your crowd work. It's. hilarious. >> And the comedy club guy, he was like, "You look like you've been doing this. for 20 years." He was like, "We're going. to give you another show in our big. room. It holds 420 people and it sold. out in a minute.". >> And I was like, "What in the hell?" So, I started I I signed with an independent. agent and I started my first tour. >> Sold over 150,000 tickets on my very. first tour. Never doing standup. >> Wow. which was insane to me. That's. amazing. It was such a blessing.

>> But that's a testament of who you are. and how you make people feel. >> And that was the biggest thing, you. know, like I and still to this day I go. read reviews because I'm like I I. shouldn't, you know, cuz like I know not. everybody's going to like me. >> We're all self-sacrificing in that way. We want to know what people are. thinking. >> And it's not because I go do that or. read those things because I want to see. what people are saying negatively or. they think that I'm the best out there. But it's is there anything I should work. on? You know, is there something that. I'm doing that people don't like? constructive criticism. >> and um I did that. I signed with my.

first big agency and signed my first. deal with Live Nation for my second. tour. >> Mhm. >> Um then it just kept going. I just, you. know, I just left my [laughter] my other. agency and went to WME. >> I'm so happy you're with us. Welcome to. WME, baby. >> I'm so happy to see that announcement. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I was really excited for you. >> Yeah, it's it's it it's still crazy to. me that I came from a trailer park. You.

know what I mean? And I think that's the. that's the coolest part. >> I literally brought my best friend and. her mom here to live with me in. Nashville that let me move into their. trailer when I was 14 years old because. I just love them so much and they're my. chosen family and now that I've made it, I want them to make it, too. So, it's. like I I think when we get to a certain. point of where we're at now, it's just. about giving back. And that's what. you're doing. And that's why it keeps. coming back to you Tfold because you're. making people feel good. And even if.

you're calling somebody Terresa Caputo, they're laughing, you know, because it's. funny and it's feel good. >> And and that's the thing, too, is like. I'm roasting the out of these people in. my shows, right? But to me, it's. >> weird and I'm very offensive in my. shows. You know, I say things that. people normally aren't going to say. I. make fun of special needs people. I make. fun of regular people. I make fun of. black people. I make fun of white. people. I make fun of gay people. I make. fun of everybody because I feel like. we're in such a dark world and. everybody's so offended about.

everything. That if we can't laugh about. it, then what do we do? We cry about it. So, I'm like, let's laugh about it and. and realize that we don't have to be so. offended about everything. We can laugh. about things and we can be united and we. can realize that like. >> it's not that deep. >> when you're not laughing. What is what's. a bad day for Matt? >> A bad day for me? >> Yeah. Like how do you handle it? Because. I know not everything's roses and. butterflies. >> No, of course not. I think this and.

again this I say this. like I hate even saying it because I. feel such like a little saying this. because I'm successful and I've I've. made my dreams come true and I've done. I've done things. >> that you don't have feelings. >> but people would die to be in the spot. right. >> of course. >> and the hardest part for me is being. lonely you know what I mean because like. I don't have a lot of friends and people. think you know I'm this big extrovert.

And I just like I go I'm the life of the. party and I go and do all and I'm not, you know, like and I don't have a lot of. friends. Like I think that's the hardest. thing for me is I will get really. lonely. And there was a day that I. realized I was off tour and I realized. that my phone didn't ring all day unless. it was an agent or a manager, >> somebody needing something from me. >> And I was like that really sucks, >> you know? And like that was really hard. That was a hard pill for me to swallow. you know, my biological mom's dead, my. mom's dead, I have my husband who's my.

best friend, you know, he really is my. rock, you know, and like we have the. best relationship. I have a great. relationship with my dad, but that's. really all I have, you know, and I don't. have I mean, I have Kale and now I have. you, you have me and you know, but it's. like. >> anytime I will always text back even. later. And you and I have had this. discussion of like, don't think I'm not. showing up at on a random day and we're. having a [ __ ] pajama party. Like, but. it's like Kale lives in Delaware. >> Yeah. Which Kale, who the [ __ ] lives in.

Delaware? >> Lives in Delaware. >> Yeah. You know, like the two or three. good my my my best friend Fallon lives. in Texas, you know? So, it's like the. two or three really close friends that I. have aren't near me. >> Yeah. >> So, it's like it's really that part's. lonely. Like the industry is lonely. Yeah. We're living our dreams, but it's. hard to let people in because you don't. trust people because they just want to. use you. >> Absolutely. >> And a lot of people in our industry are. [ __ ]. >> So, I think that's why I was so excited.

when we clicked because I was like, man, it's so nice to have somebody that you. can talk to that's in this industry that. understands how you feel. >> Yeah. >> And, you know, that is. >> that is in the same that can understand. the loneliness of it. >> Oh, absolutely. But it's also like you. don't want to you don't want to [ __ ]. and sound ungrateful because you are. But at the same time it's. >> that doesn't mean that you you're not. human, you know, and just because you. are successful. And I think that's where. a lot of people on the internet are. like, "Oh, you have all the you have. this fame, you have money, everything's.

great. More money, more problems.". >> Like people don't understand that. And. me and my husband talk about it all the. time. And it's like you literally get. secluded on this little island of people. half the people you don't like, half the. people you don't want to talk to, and. you have like maybe a small percentage. of people that you can be around. And. that's it's not. >> a bad thing for you to feel lonely, but. you don't ever have to feel lonely. You. can always text me. But I have like it I. literally have my crew and that's it. Like I don't let anybody else in either. because you can'ting trust people.

People are so untrustworthy. And the one. time you do something wrong, they go. straight to the internet. Oh yeah. >> You know, clout chasers. >> Yeah. >> What's the craziest rumor you've ever. heard about yourself? >> Um, my husband and I divorced. That like. that was an MSN article the other day. was I was divor Matt Matt Matthews and. husband divorced and I'm like we. literally just built a house. Like what. are you talking about? Um. >> I call those out anytime something like. that gets posted. >> Oh, I posted it. I was like are y'all.

>> is a lie. Yeah. Mhm. >> Um. >> the the craziest thing probably is that. I've made up my whole life. Like that. it's not real. >> Me too. People say that about me. >> Yeah. I didn't live in a trailer park. I. didn't live in the projects. My mom's. not an alcoholic. >> Like I made all that up for just to get. views. >> Literally, people tell me the same. thing. I'm like, do you think that I'm. going to tell people that I was aing. hooker? I would have been a [ __ ]. doctor if I was going to make up my. past. You know, like I the the way that.

people like try to shame you for your. upbringing is crazy. Like it's just. >> the craziest thing to me is like the AI. [ __ ] now. >> Oh, that shit's weird. That shit's so. weird. >> People are like taking videos of me and. they'll people are getting scammed. thousands of dollars. This lady came to. my show the other day and she's sitting. like third row and she's like, "Hey.". And I'm like, "Hey." She goes, "It's. me." And I'm like, "It's you." There's a. video on my Instagram. I was like,

"What?" I was like, "Are you are you. okay?" And she's like, "It's me." And. I'm like, "What the [ __ ] are you talking. about?" She had been talking to somebody. this whole time and she thought she was. talking to me because they're using AI. videos and you can see like like it was. actually a cameo that I had done for. someone and they had used AI to change. what I was saying. >> Oh my gosh. >> And I'm like, "This is the craziest. [ __ ] How is that legal?" But first of. all, how do people fall for this? Because it doesn't look real. People get.

scammed all the time from jelly and. bunny accounts also. And I feel so bad. for you guys. Like if I one, I will. never ask you for money. Two, never send. money to anybody ever. But. >> please pay attention because you can. tell when shit's noting real, you know? I hate when I post on something on. Facebook and every single time somebody. comments Matt Matthews private Matt. Matthews fan I'm like I block them too. but you can't like there's so many so.

many I could hire somebody full time to. sit there and block accounts it is. insane. >> and now they have these new accounts. that are on Facebook that are like news. outlets but they're not really. newsletters like they literally one had. the Tik Tok in her upper saying that my. husband said that he hates gay pride and. all all this other stuff and it's like. my husband never said that and people. really believe this [ __ ] Yesterday they. said that I was attacking Sydney Sweeney. because of her jeans out or something. like that. I'm like are you guys morons?

And there's like a thousand comments of. it. Oh yeah, we're not taking advice. from a hooker and like didn't she used. to sell her ass and I'm like yeah to. your dad Mike you know it's like people. >> you still made more money than you ho. >> literally and people justing stop just. stop believing everything that you read. on the internet. That is absolutely. insane to me. >> In the business that you're in, do you. always feel like you have to be on? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Like. when I meet somebody, >> if somebody comes up to me in public for.

a picture. >> or they stop me, >> like I feel like I have number one, I. will never say no. >> Yeah. >> And I will never be ugly to anybody. because if it weren't for those people, I would not be here. So I'm so thankful. for them. But at the same time, I know. that they expect me to be farm chores or. they expect me to be the comedian on. stage. And I tell people, I'm like, I am. when I'm on stage, >> it's a part of who I am. Like that is. who I am. That really is me, but it's.

just a part of who I am. And I'm. performing, you know, like that is a. performance. When I'm on that stage, I. am performing. This is not a conference, you know what I mean? I'm not just. reading a script. I am performing, >> right? >> And so when you meet me in the grocery. store, >> I'm not going to be that ridiculous. >> You know what I mean? So I do feel like. I have to be on a lot. >> Yeah. >> And that is that's, you know, nobody's. ever going to say that I was rude to. them, but they may say like, "Oh, he. wasn't the same in person, >> right?".

>> Cuz maybe I don't, you know, that's the. big thing that people say about me on. the internet is that I talk black. I try. to talk black. And I'm like, >> "You're a southern gay. >> I'm southern and I'm gay as hell." like. and I was raised in the projects and I. did go to an all black church. I was the. only, you know, but then they're like, "Oh, well, your accent changes.". >> Okay. Well, I can talk like this or I. can talk like this, you know. >> It sounds the same to me. >> It's like it's our customer service. voice, right? >> I tell people if you don't have. different voices from when you're. hanging out with your best friends or. when you're, you know, doing an.

interview. >> Yeah. >> Then you need to learn how to do an. interview voice so that you can get a. [ __ ] job, >> right? >> You know, [laughter] like, right? So. that's the that's the crazy thing to me. is I'm like why would I act to be why. would I you can only hold. >> a a false person or like this. personality for so long. >> Oh I tell everybody I'm like listen I. love you. What you see on the internet. is me in the comfort of my own home in. my own studio. In person I am shy. I'm. quiet. I have anxiety. You're judging.

me. I know you are as soon as you walk. up to me and ask for a picture. So, I'm. like, if I'm not who I am online, just. know that it's just I'm very more I'm a. lot more reserved in person. I just. don't set people up for failure. I'm. like, look, it's you're going to be. disappointed. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> Don't expect much. You'll be. disappointed. >> What kills me is when they come up to me. and they're like, >> get up. It's time to do farm chores. And. I'm like, that is the cringiest thing to. [laughter] me. I'm like, please. Or. they'll be like, did you do farm chores. today? I'm like, no, I'm off. [laughter].

Like, I'm at a comedy show. What the. [ __ ] do you think I I'm in Seattle. Do. you think I did farm chores? [laughter]. >> That is That part makes me cringe cuz. I'm just like. >> But I mean it's like I'm sure people I'm. sure people will come up to you and you. know like any kind of any kind of. >> What do they say? What do they say to. what is it that they Oh, the ask tell. Confess [laughter]. >> cuz I I do. >> what. >> they whistle. >> So, I do this thing where I'm like I we. have another segment called Ask Tell.

Confess. And it's I've literally had Ask. Confessence since I had my Instagram 10. years ago, but we just moved it to our. platform about a year ago. And so, the. opening I'm always like, "Welcome to. Ask, tell Confess." So, I say that. So, people [laughter]. people come up to me all the time and. that's what they do. You did it. >> Did I do it? >> Yeah, you did it. Hey, >> you did it. [laughter]. Ask, tell confess. So, yeah, that's what.

they come up and say to me. >> Okay. Yeah. And it makes you cringe, don't it? >> I mean, I'm just like, I'm not doing it. right now. Like, I'll do it whenever I. have to film five in a row. Yeah. Let's. talk about your music because I know. that Juwel actually had a really big. impact on your music career which you. and I had this conversation and should I. even tell the story or no? Yeah. Yeah, tell. >> Okay. Okay. So, [laughter]. and listen, Juel, you're a beautiful. human. I have always looked up to you. This was just a moment in time and I.

completely understand where she was. coming from now that I live the life. that I live. When I met Juwel, this was. when the Palms was huge in Vegas and I. think I was like leaving Ghost Bar or. something. It was in the middle of the. night, 2 o'clock in the morning. She's. walking in the casino by herself and I'm. walking out of this club and I see Juwel. and this is like when she was huge and. like I couldn't believe it and I was. just like, "Oh my god, Jewel." And she.

was like, you know, like she had gotten. caught and I was just like, "Hey, can we. take a picture?" And she was like rolled. her eyes and goes, "One picture right. now, right here." And I was like, "You. know what? It's okay." And I ended up. leaving her. And I left that that. encounter with her for the longest time. for years. I was like, "Dude, Juwel was. a you know, but now that I'm in this. lifestyle and. >> I she could have been going through a. divorce in the middle of this casino. She could have been on her period. She. could have beening there could have been.

a million things that were going on, you. know. Granted, she could have been a. little nicer. Yeah. But when you told me. your story about how much she helped. you, I was like, "Oh, maybe she does. have a heart, you know?". >> Well, and that's kind of why I said I. will never be ugly to a fan. Now, I. mean, let me never say never cuz you. might catch me on the right [ __ ]. time, you [laughter] know? But I I. really try to never be ugly because and. it's hard. tears and people will come up to you and.

you have to like. >> and you have to be like, "Okay, hi, how. are you?" You know, um but they remember. that for the rest of their life. You're. not going to remember them, but they. will remember you for the rest of their. life. >> And. >> people won't remember times or. situations, but they'll remember how. they you made them feel. Yeah. Yeah. Yum. >> And so that is that's why I I really try. to always be kind because it it it cost. zero dollars to be kind. >> Yeah. >> And um I remember I grew up I was. obsessed with Jewel. Obsessed with her.

>> I have the same tooth as her. >> Like Yeah. I mean literally I was I grew. up so just like I thought she was the. best artist. Like I thought her music. was just incredible. I mean I loved her. so much. >> She really is a talented artist. >> She's incredible. Yeah. >> And um I remember she followed me on. Instagram and I don't fang girl over. people. Like it's we just have a career. that you see. >> Um. >> but I don't so I don't fang girl over. people. I don't like.

>> you know what I mean? Like it's that to. me is just like it is what it is. >> I did fan girl over Anna Nicole. She was. the only one that I fang girlled over. when I met her. >> Yeah. Well, Anna Nicole Smith was Nicole. Smith. [laughter] Um, but so I I've. never really fang girlled over people. and I was laying in bed one night and I. l I was just scrolling and I looked at. my Instagram and I saw Jewel blue check. mark followed me. >> and I like fell out of the bed. I was. screaming. My husband was like ran back. He was like, "What's wrong?" I was like, "Juel followed me." Like she came to my.

hometown and did a book signing and I. went to the book signing by myself like. read her. I was always a fan. >> Yeah. And I mean, never like I'm not a. crazy like I'm not stalking you that. kind of fan, but I just always like. really really looked up to her as an. artist. >> And um I was like, "Oh my god." She. followed me and I DM'd her and I was. like, "I swear I don't fang girl over. people, but I just fang girl so hard." I. was like, "You don't know how much this. means to me." And she was like, "Oh, I'm.

such a fan." And I was like, >> "What?". >> So we. >> That's like your hero telling you that. she's a fan of you. >> literally. and she was like, "Gay men. are my favorite.". >> Her best friend is a gay man. >> And um so she we started talking just, you know, kind of how you and I did. We. just started talking back and forth. We. exchanged numbers. She was like, "Hey, I'm playing in Rogers, Arkansas with. Melissa Ethridge.". >> I Melissa's been on the podcast. I love. Melissa Ethridge and her wife.

>> She is so talented. Great. Loved Melissa. Ethridge as well. And so they were. playing in Rogers, Arkansas at the. Walmart amp. And Juwel was like, "Why. don't you come out and sing with me?". >> I was like, "What?". I was like, "Are you kidding me?" And. she was like, "Yeah, why don't you come. out and sing with me?" And I was like, "Absolutely. I can't turn that down." So. we got on the tour bus. It was like 8:00. at night and we drove 8 hours to Rogers, Arkansas. And we got there, and we had.

never met in real life. We had only. talked, you know, texted and things like. and voice memos and things like that. And we got there and she knocked on my. door and I opened the door. She was. like, "You got a cup of sugar?" And I. was like, >> "Oh my god.". >> And um she came on the bus and she had. her guitar and she was like, "We're. going to sing this song that we didn't.". She was like, "I don't want to sing a. hit with you. I want to sing a hit. that's that's going to I want to sing a. song that's going to offend people.". >> I'm like, "Okay." And she's a funny.

She's hysterical. And she was like, "Let's sing this song that's going to. offend everybody." And I'm like, "Okay.". I was like, "I've never heard this song. before." So, she gives me a piece of. paper. She's like, "Here's the song.". I'm [ __ ] myself that I'm about to. sing in front of Jewel, >> you know, never met her. It's not like. we're best friends. And I'm about to I'm. sitting on the couch. Juel is sitting. next to me playing of the guitar and I'm. about to sing this song with her. And I. start singing and she stopped and she. was like she said, "Bitch." I was like,

"Ma'am, >> what did I do?" And she was like, "You. can [ __ ] sing." And I was like, I like I like sunk down into the couch. I didn't hide how much I was I was like, "I'm not hiding this. This is. everything." And. >> that's the confirmation you needed. >> It was. So I I went out and I sang with. her and then we and then she called me. >> What song was it? >> So it was a song called Stop Hating or. uh. Stop Hating Hate or something like that. >> Uhhuh. And it's like um it the song is.

like stop saying the word [ __ ] Stop. saying like. >> how do you sing that? I want to hear. this. >> I I'm trying to think how it how it even. goes. Um. oh so it's like my [ __ ] ain't weak. Can. you handle that? So stop So what is it? Uh so stop calling men a [ __ ] like. that. I don't need young girls to think. that even their sex organs are weak. So. stop saying [ __ ] and while I'm at it,

you can stop saying [ __ ] It really is. time. I think we've had it. And so it's. like just like all these things of like. stigmas of like quit saying these. things. Never sang this. Never heard the. song. So I'm holding up. By the way, you. sounded great. >> Oh, well thank you. But I'm like I have. this piece of paper and I'm singing the. song on stage with her. >> And it was incredible cuz she like. >> I'm thinking nobody's going to know who. the [ __ ] I am, right? Yeah. >> And so she calls me out on stage and. like the crowd starts screaming and I'm. like what the [ __ ] You know, like it. was it was just incredible. And then.

then she called me back out to yodel cuz. I can yodel. And so she's like. >> yodel right the [ __ ] now Matt. >> Do it now. Yes. We're obsessed with. yodeling. We love it, dude. >> So we yodled. Carly Pierce was on the podcast three. days ago and she could she can yodel but. she wouldn't do it for us. >> Why? >> I don't know. Okay, I'll do it for you. >> Oh god, I CAN'T WAIT. >> Let's see. What's the song? [laughter]. I'm excited. The song is um.

uh. well bells are ringing your lady. upon a summer's evey. Oh my god, I love that. I have.

goosebumps. >> I've never done that for anybody. >> That is so cool. I love that. When did. Okay. How did you discover where the did. you learn how to yodel? >> Jewel. >> Wow. So, she yodals too? >> She yodals. She grew up in Alaska, you. know, on and that's like yodelling was. their family thing. Like they all. yodled, right? >> And I was so obsessed with her that she. could do it. So, I had to teach myself. how to do it. >> Oh my god. And so I told her that I. could yodel and she was like,

>> "Wait, really?" So we're on I'm on side. stage. We had already sang together and. she said somebody in the audience said. yelled yodel. >> and she was like, "Oh, you want me to. yodel?" And they were like, "Yeah." And. so she was like, "Matt, get your ass. back out here." [laughter] And I went. back out there and we yodelled together. And I was just like, "What the fuck?". >> Oh my I got goosebumps. That is so cool. >> It was It was crazy. And then afterwards. she was like, "Matt, you got to do. music." And I was like, I'm too scared. I don't think I'm good enough. Like, I. don't think that I can. >> You're very good. >> And so, she put me in touch with her.

producer uh here in Nashville and I had. like a list of songs that I'd written. and uh I came to Nashville and I. recorded them all and we just literally. got all the masters back literally two. days ago. >> Um so, the record sending me stuff I. want to hear. Well, so I never sent you. anything cuz I didn't want you to think. like, "Oh, he's sending me music cuz my. husband. >> My husband sends me music all day long. Send me music. >> I'll tell you if I like it or not.". >> But you know what I mean? Like I didn't. want you to think, oh, like he's trying.

to get into music or like he wants to. be, you know what I mean? Like. >> I wouldn't think that. >> So I didn't want to ever do that because. I was like, "No, I don't want. >> My husband sends me his tracks all the. time because I'm not a Jelly Roll fan. I. never have been." And I will tell my. husband straight up, "Do not put that on. your album. This is terrible." And so he. loves that because he'll talk [ __ ] and. be like, "You my algorithm." But he. really loves the fact that he'll send me. tracks and I'll be like, "Yes, no, yes, no." And he really listens. He won't put. them on the album if I ever. >> Well, and that's what I want too is. somebody to be like, "This is really. good or this is not good." Cuz people.

don't usually do that. You know, and and. so now Sloan and like everybody at WME, they obviously there's such a big music, country music. They have a hold on that. and they're like, >> "Shout out Sloan, we love you. >> Shout out. We love you Sloan." Um, they're like, "Matt, your voice is so. unique and it's so good. You have to do. this music, but we don't know where your. music's going to fall because it's not. like pop country. It's more folk like. they they're like it's very much jewel.". >> But do you think that you could do like. a Jewel mixed with like Tyler Childers?

Cuz child Tyler Childers is kind of folk. music in some ways. >> And that's kind of what I feel like my. music is similar to. And so that's kind. of like where we are right now is, you. know, they're like, "Oh, Matt, your. music is incredible, but it's probably not going to be. mainstream enough. It's not going to be. on the radio. It's not going to be, you. know, this, this, and this." Your voice. is incredible. The music is incredible. We just don't know where it's going to. land. We don't know where it'll live. >> Well, for you, you have a cult following.

that will probably blow their minds. >> Well, I hope. But I also don't want to. get my hopes up, you know, because like. that was. >> Have faith in yourself, though. That was. always what I wanted to do and so so to. just put the record just to to make the. record was just for me. >> Would you ever mix music in with your. comedy shows? >> Yeah. So I have a little bit. Um Juel. actually tells me she thinks that I. should sing my songs. on stage while I do my comedy like. either before or after or like some way.

do it that way. But I'm just like how do. I go from like talking about sucking. dick to writing to this beautiful. ballad, [laughter] you know? How do I do. that? Yeah, you know, because like Josh. Adam Meyer and Josh Wolf, those are all. friends of ours. My husband's like. really entrenched in the comedian world. and they sing a lot of stuff online, but. it's funny stuff. >> Yeah. See, my music isn't funny, right? And that's what I wanted was like I. wanted to show people a different side. of me like not the funny side. I want. >> You want to separate church from state?

>> Yeah. I think parody music is so corny, >> right? Like weird out. >> Yeah. I think it's so corny. It works. for people. >> I do it every Christmas. I drop a. Christmas song every year and it it's. >> but I feel like that's different because. it's Christmas. You know what I mean? But like now there's a So at right now. in the show that I perform at the very. end of the at the very end of the show I. perform an acoustic ballad of my neck my. back. >> I love that. >> Have you ever put it on TikTok? >> No. >> Why not? It will going insanely viral.

>> I'm so I I'm just You can Here's the. thing. You can tell me I'm not funny and. I'm like, I know I am, but you tell me. you can't sing and that'll hurt my. feelings. >> Matt, put my neck my back acoustic on. TikTok and watch how much iting blows. up. I'll use it 10 thousand times if I. have to until it blows up. It will blow. up. I promise you. I promise you. Please, you got to have faith in. yourself, dude. Look how much you've. done already. >> I know. I'm just. >> Look how much you've done already. >> Scary. >> It is very scary putting yourself out.

there, but dude, you got Jewel. co-signing you. You just yodled for us. Like you've got talent, dude. >> That made my stomach hurt. >> No, it was so good. What do you mean? I. My nipples got hard. I was turned on. I. never thought. >> you made Bunny's nipples hard. >> I never thought that I would get turned. on by a yodel and I was completely. turned on. Like it was amazing. >> It's just so scary, you know? Cuz it's. such a serious thing, you know? Like. it's very intimate and like I just I. wrote a song called Under Trailer Lights.

>> and it's like it talks about my mom and. like living in a trailer and like that's. like WM is obsessed with it. >> and I'm just like. >> cuz you feel so vulnerable. It's crazy. though because you wrote a book. >> Yeah, I know. But that's different. >> Yeah, >> that's so different. >> So this is like this is your like like. that one thing that you're going to. >> When we're off camera, I'll let you hear. it. >> Okay. But I'm like, >> well, send it to me. Yeah. I know your. stuff. >> A So, do they want to drop it soon or is. that going to be like your first? >> So, they want me to take label meetings.

>> Okay. >> And I'm like, >> why do you have to sign with a label? >> I don't have to. And that's what I'm. saying. But they want to do it. I mean, because my publicist is very. >> um I'm the only I'm the only comedian. that my publicist has. Like, she's. worked with several big comedians. Um. and then she was like, "We want to bring. on another comedian, but they wouldn't. just sign anybody." So, um, she. represents massive, massive country. stars, you know, so she was like, I. really want to work with you. She and.

she doesn't take on anybody. So, it was. an honor for her to want to work with. me. So, I signed with her and then I. obviously now WME. And so, they want to. be very strategic about it and they I. was just going to throw the [ __ ] out. there and just be like, "Here you go. >> Do the Jesse Murf brand. That's what she. does.". >> And God, I love her. >> I know she's the sweetest, but I love. her. She will literally throw music up. and it will go completely insanely. viral. It'll chart all that stuff and. she'll never release it. >> Mhm. like but it just it just came out. >> You know what she does that I will never.

do is and that's the biggest struggle. that I had was I see all the artists. that are blowing up with music is. because they get their phone and they. get the sound and they lip sync it and I. can't do that cuz it is the cringiest. [ __ ] to me. >> and they're like when you release a. single you got to be posting every day. every day. Every day with that. >> he can't do that either. He. >> can't do that. >> He's the same way. So, I'm like, "How do. I post the music without making these. videos?". >> You do other things. He He'll like, you. know, post a concert clip or like post a.

vulnerable moment you're having with a. fan or like there's so many other ways. to market it to where you're not having. to sing in your camera. >> Yeah. Cuz I'm just like, I'm not 22. years old like doing a TikTok with my. song. Like, I just can't do that. >> I get that. >> Like, it's so cringy to me. >> What would be your dream collab if you. So, I'm sorry. He's over here just. sawing logs. What would be your dream. collab that you would be able to work. with? I mean, you comedy, jewel, with. music. >> Music. >> and comedy. Let's do both. Music and. comedy. >> Um, well, I mean, we're already both.

coming out of retirement, so for. photography, I mean, obviously. >> Yeah, baby. >> These titties out. I don't think we're ready for what that. [laughter] could be. Um, >> music. I feel like um I've already. performed with Juwel, but like doing we. had we had talked about it doing a duet. together, but she's she's been doing. this for so long that she's just like. >> I don't want to work anymore, you know? >> So, she's kind of out um.

>> music. I really love right now I'm really. loving Jesse. I think she's so good. Yeah, she's. >> I love her new album. I really love. that. Um, I really love. >> Bro, >> he is going at it. I wonder if you can. hear him in the microphone. >> I know. We We usually edit it. >> Um, so I'm trying to think who I'm just. like really really obsessed with right. now. Um,

>> male or female? >> Male or female? >> I really love I really love Ella right. now. >> Dude, Ella is so saucy. She's good. She. and I are good friends. Um. >> well, we've talked about that. You know. that we're friends. We're from We're. both from Alabama. >> Um. >> I won't go there, but um [laughter]. >> so yes, Ella. I think Ella's great. I. don't know that I' She's my dream collab. by any means, but um. >> man, that's hard. >> So, we got Jesse and Ella. >> We got We got We're the total opposite.

ends of the spectrum. >> Yeah. Yeah. Well, Jesse's going a more. sexy way and then Ella's going more. country darling. I love Elvis. >> Yeah. I mean, I do too. Um I just feel. like this era for Jesse is, you know, she's so young. Oh, yeah. >> So, we're going to see this era and 10. other more as she goes through her. thing. So, nobody get married to the. idea that she's going to be prancing. around like Priscilla Presley next year. because she's going to be a completely. different human. As she ages, she's.

going to evolve into different eras of. her life. >> I also am really like I really love '9s. grunge. >> Yeah, I love it. Yeah. Um, >> like Pearl Jam. >> Really been on a lint biscuit kick. lately? >> Oh, we love Fred. You know Fred's in. Nashville? >> No, I didn't. >> Oh, yeah. I talked to Fred all the time. >> I posted a a barrel, you know, I barrel. race and I posted a barrel racing clip. the other day with the rolling. >> rolling. I saw it. I was like, this is. hot. >> Yeah. I'm like, I love that. It just. really reminded me of like it's very.

nostalgic. >> Yeah. Fred's out here in Nashville. He. lives here. >> Uh, Bush. I love Bush. Not Gavin. Rosdale. >> Not Bush. Bush, but the band Bush. >> Yeah, those are all great. >> Those are all great. >> Well, Kirk Cobain's dead, but you know, it's fine. >> There's always Courtney Love. Courtney. Love was amazing. I loved her. >> Her daughter, their daughter followed me. on Instagram. >> Francis. Y. crazy. She married Tony Hawk's son. Like. what? Twoing just like empires. Kurt.

Cobain and Tony Hawk and their worlds. coming together and they had a baby. together. Like wild. So, I'm going to. ask you a couple questions to close out. Um, you've built this empire from. scratch. What's something that you wish. more people knew about the hard work. behind the scenes, >> how much work it is, >> you know, people think that, oh, you. just blew up on the internet. You just. got successful overnight from videos. You don't realize just how much work we. put into this. >> and how hard it is to stay to maintain. >> to maintain. >> You know how many people go up and then.

straight back down? to be able to go up. and keep coasting and keep growing is. very hard. >> That is the hard number one, how much. money I've spent, you know, on my team, on publicist, on managers, on agents, like the the amount of just like blood, sweat, and tears that go into it and. then to stay there. >> Yeah. Was there ever a time that you. almost gave up like creating content? >> Um, no. Never. never almost gave up.

because I what what the [ __ ] else am I. going to do? [laughter]. >> Right. >> Like, >> right. No, I feel the same way. I'm like. my husband's like, "You feel like you. can't ever take time off." I'm like, "I. can't. My entire plan is I feel like I. can't ever take off.". >> Yeah. No, for sure. >> They did ask me the other day. They were. like, "Would you ever do like a. destination show?" And I was like, "What. do you mean?" They were like Love. Island. >> They were no like like going to a They. were like, "You and like several of your. friends that are in the industry." And. they were like, "Y'all, like you and. Bunny could go and do a podcast in. Mexico and we could bring Jewel and.

y'all do a song together and we could. bring Kelly Osborne and y'all and like. have like sell all the like a cruise. almost.". >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You know, and I was like W asked WME. asked me that and I was like, "Oh, well, I've never thought of it, but it sounds. fun.". >> I mean, I'm down. >> I'm like go to Mexico and like get a. vacation with your friends and get to. work. Sure. >> Get to hang out with Kelly Osborne. I'm. totally down. I love Kelly so much. She's so sweet. Is there anything that. fame has given you that you never. expected?

>> Uh, it has given me. number one, it has given me clarity on. who I am as a person, >> you know, because everybody thinks that. fame changes you, >> right? >> And for a lot of people it does. >> Money doesn't uh what is it? Money does. money reveals character. >> Yes. >> Yes. And uh I think that is one of the. one of the things that I have always. like being humble is a very very strong. driving force for me. >> Yeah.

>> I don't ever want to change because. people know who I am or because I have. money. >> um or anything like that. Like I just. want to I always want to stay who I am. And that's a lot of people are like, "Would you ever are you ever going to. move to Nashville? Are you ever going to. move to New York or LA?" And I'm like, "No, I live in Bumuck Alabama still.". >> Yeah. you know, >> would you you'd never leave Alabama? >> Oh, I mean, if if I had like if there. was the right opportunity, maybe. Um, but I'm like. >> I'm 2 hours from from next, you know, like so. >> I'm 2 hours driving here to you or I can.

get on a flight 2 hours to New York. You. know what I mean? Like if I have to go. do a role or in a movie or a TV show or. if I got something like that and I had. to go work for a little while, that's. fine. But I'm always going to go back to. my country, >> to your roots, >> to my house, you know, and I think I. think that is a part of what has kept me. who I am. >> I love that so much. And last thing, if. your animals could talk for 30 seconds, what dirt would they spill on you? >> That I am.

>> If there was any scandal that any of. your animals could leak, what would it. be? >> Well, damn, [ __ ] If I tell you, then. why then it ain't. >> We want to know. Inquiring minds want to. know. We need the headline. Matt, give. it to us. >> Any scandal? Well, nobody ever comes to. my house, so there's [laughter] no like. >> I really be in that robe with no. underwear on. Um, people think that's a. joke. That's the real deal. Um, I really. be cussing my husband out. Uh,

>> where is he? Is he at home? He's at. home. Yeah. Yeah. I'm honestly very. boring. >> I get it. There's I don't have I don't. like you know the whole what is the. biggest lie? I don't think there is one. cuz like I'm just I figured it out. What. is my biggest lie? >> Yeah. >> When I was looking at gay porn when I. was like a young kid and my dad saw it. and I told him I wasn't gay. >> A and he's like. >> but you were scared. You were scared. >> But I was show looking at big dick on my. dad's [laughter] computer.

>> And he was like. >> he's like how am I getting these popups? Cuz back then you would get the. [laughter] popup. >> And he was like well son are you gay? I. was like, "No, >> he's just getting he's having his. morning coffee and the pop-ups are just. slapping him in the face.". >> Yeah, [laughter]. >> I love it. Matt, tell people where they. can buy tickets. Tell people where. you're going to be. Tell them you're. tell them whatever you want to tell. them, where they can find you on the. internet. See you, all of it. >> Uh matte.com for all the tickets. Uh. Matt_Matthews. for all of the socials. One T in the. last name.

>> Yes. Is it one T? >> Yeah, everybody put two. >> I always think it's two. Mhm. It's very. common for for two T's, but only one. >> All right. Well, I'm glad you made that. clarification. Thank you so much for. coming on. >> Thank you for having me. >> I can't wait to have you back on. Come. back anytime. My couch is always open. for you. Absolutely. >> And you're going to have to teach me how. to yodel. >> I Let's do it. >> I want to learn how to while we're doing. budoir shoot. >> Okay. We'll make a You want to make a. Tik Tok and I'll teach you how to yodel. We'll do a Tik [laughter] Tok. >> Oh my god. I'm like,

thank you guys for tuning in to another. episode of Done Blonde. I'll see you. guys next week. Bye.