Jessie Murph | Dumb Blonde Podcast

Bunny XO Vegas girl. >> Bunny XO blonde podcast. >> Is this thing on? What's up, babies? Welcome to another episode of Dumb. Blonde. Today's guest isn't just a. rising star. She's a walking, fireb. breathing, lyrical assassin. She sings. what most people are afraid to say out. loud, and she does it with zero. apologies. Miss Jesse Murf. Hello. Hi, baby. It's been a long time coming. I. have been wanting you on the podcast.

forever, >> dude. I'm so glad I'm here. I feel like. we've never gotten to like actually. talk. We're always in very loud. environments and it's like a quick. passing thing, so I'm excited. >> Yeah, I'm excited to get to hang with. you for a little bit. >> Um, last time I saw you, we were on the. red carpet at the ACMS and you had. Wilbur with you. >> Tell me the story about Wilbur because. he went completely viral, >> dude. He was the star of the carpet. >> It was wild, right? ever. I know that I. literally ran up and I was like, "Oh my. god, Wilbur." And then I'm like, "You.

don't want a pig." Like like that's the. first thing I'm like, I got three at. home. They uproot everything, dude. Like. tell me the story about Wilbur. >> Wait, are your pigs here. >> there? No, this is just my studio. >> That makes sense. I was like, damn, y'all got a pink staircase. That's so. >> a Yeah. No, this is just my girl cave. >> Um, >> Wilbur, I've always wanted a miniature. pig like my whole life. I feel like I. told you that on the carpet, but. >> um and. >> uh friends of ours have them and then so. I asked him to be my date and he came.

with me and he was great. I don't know. >> How did you get the ACMs to approve. that? Because I would think that. bringing livestock on the carpet they. would be like no. >> Dude, I don't think we asked. I think we. just kind of. >> I love that. >> What were they going to say? Like. >> forgiveness instead of permission. I. love that. >> Dude, that's my biggest motto always. >> That's how you have to be through life. >> 100%. >> So did you end up keeping Wilbur? Oh, but I'm going to visit him when I go to. Texas. >> Yeah, >> like my place won't let me have a 300lb. pig. >> Is he going to end up being 300 lb? >> That's what they say.

>> I actually have owned two pigs. I owned. two pigs before the three that we have. right now. The three that we have right. now are actually mini pigs and they're. probably like what? They're cooney. coonies. So, they're. >> so they're like 100 pounds. They're like. little beef cakes and I call them my. golden girls. They're so cute. But I did. have two. one that was named lunch and. one I forget what Chopsui I know the. other one his name was Chopsuie and I'm. telling you they were supposed to be. mini pigs and they ended up being 5 600. lb. >> 600 lb a hippo yeah and they have like.

brains of like a 2-year-old so like if. you sleep in in the morning like they'll. start going through your cabinets and. banging pots and pans and stuff like. that. Yeah, >> they're like actually smart. >> Oh no, they have uh they have the brain. of like a toddler. >> That's insane. Yeah, they're actually. and they're supposed to be like the. cleanest animals, which I beg to differ. cuz my pigs are not. Those things are. just they're dirty. >> They also eat anything, right? >> They do. >> Like you can feed it like. >> bones. >> What? Actually, >> so the mafia used to feed. >> Oh, that's terrible.

>> The mafia used to feed pigs because they. eat through bones. >> That's so crazy. Do they still know. that? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I thought everybody. knew that. Maybe that's just a Vegas. thing. I have no idea. >> That's a thing in Vegas. They do that. Well, cuz there's lots there was a lot. of mafia in Vegas, so it was like always. an old I guess an old wives tale that I. guess you could say. But yeah, the mafia. would feed them pigs. >> Is mafia like a Vegas like it's super. prominent there? >> Uh, it used to be and not anymore as it. you know like back in the days like. Sammy Davis Jr., Frank Sinatra era, it.

was ran by nothing but the mafia. Yeah. >> Really? Did they all live there? >> Oh yeah, they all live there. People. gangsters have gotten killed there. Like. it's a whole thing. I'm sure you could. go on like a Netflix and binge it one. night and just watch like all the mafia. stories from Vegas. >> There's a show about it. >> Oh, there's tons. >> Dude, I'm actually really intrigued. about that. I really want to read up on. it. >> Go down that wormhole. >> Okay, I will. >> It'll fascinate you. And I'm so happy. you're here cuz I actually want to talk. to you about your posting schedule with. songs. >> because your ass willing tease a song.

for like a year. >> Dude, I'm not proud of it. >> Is there a method behind the madness? Not at all. I think I just if I write a. song, I always get really excited about. it in the moment and then I post it. before I like talk to anybody and then. they're like, "We're like not even. almost ready for this." So then they're. like, "Pease it until we're ready." And. that's kind of how it happens. But I. never want to do it like that. >> Yeah. >> Like I'm always like wanting to put it. out immediately. >> They always blow up though. It's crazy. Like it it doesn't matter what you post. Like people are obsessed with you and I.

love that for you because that just. speaks volumes for who you are as a. person and your music. But I love when. you will post a song and literally six. months later we're still like I'm. reading the comments and people are. begging you to drop the song. They're. like Jesse what the you know like are. you going to drop this song? And there's. some of them you end up not even. dropping. >> Yeah. Sometimes I like grow out of songs. like I'll feel it in the moment and then. I'll wait like 6 months and I'm like. damn I was like a different person then. That's happened a lot of times actually.

and they'll probably never see the light. of day. >> really even though there's such a high. demand for them. you still wouldn't want. to drop them. >> I have to like feel the song to be able. to promote it well and stuff. >> Yeah. >> Cuz I'm very I'm very genuine in in. everything I do with music. So like if I. don't feel that way, it's going to be so. obvious. I've noticed that like if. there's a song, there's been like a few. instances where my label's been like, "We love this song. Like he's it." And I. don't like it and so I'll do it and it. won't work. It's like I don't It's like. people can feel if you like it or not.

>> Yeah. >> I don't know. >> Yeah. No, I get that. Yeah. >> Do you feel like that could get you into. trouble being so emotionally attached to. your music or do you think that that's a. a a plus for you? >> I think it's a little bit of both. It's. definitely cuz it guides me well. >> But yeah, sometimes if I'm feeling a. super strong emotion like last album. like something happened and I was just. so angry and I let it lead the entire. project and I put out the entire project. and it was all just like a big. anger album almost and not a lot of.

people feel that way all the time. So, I. was very like um tunnel visioned on. that. But I don't know. I think like. they're the eras of my of me growing up. and I think that it's going to be sick. to like look back when I'm like 30 and. see my 20s progress emotionally. >> Yeah, absolutely. You literally have. like an online diary of everything. >> So scary. >> that you've ever gone through. But I. think that's really cool cuz a lot of. people don't like your your generation.

act actually gets to have that that like. you know digital footprint whereas like. you know I'm thankful I didn't have to. go through the I went through online but. I think it's so cool like you and Bailey. our our daughter our daughter Bailey can. actually look back and just see like how. much growth you've made and you can like. 10 years from now you're going to look. back and be like holy not even that same. human but you're going to have all of. that to look back on. It is good, but. it's also like so scary. And it's also. like I even look at things I posted when.

I was like 15 and I'm like I am so. embarrassed. >> What's the cringiest thing you've ever. had go viral? >> Talk about it. Nothing talk about it. >> I don't know. I used to be so like and I. still am very spiteful, but I think that. like just responding to comments and. stuff and like not being able to hold my. like temper and like that. I definitely. did a lot of that at like 15 16 on. TikTok, but I don't know. Um it's I'm. trying to do better about it. >> It's hard. >> Where do you feel like that feeling of.

spitefulness comes from from you? Like. where where did that start? >> I don't know. I mean, I haven't always. like I grew up super like normal. Like I. I don't know. I grew up in a small town. and it's like. the things you see online aren't things. that people would say to you in person, >> right? And I'm like I'm like I feel like. a normal ass person. So I'm like why. would I don't know I it because if. somebody said that to me in person I. obviously would be like you and it's. weird that just because you're like.

sort of like famous online or something. that people feel that they can just talk. to you any type of way. >> Oh I get it back at all day long. >> Oh my god you're so good about it. I. love it. >> No but I feel like you're good at it. I. feel like you do it so well too. >> But like should we not like should we. not be doing that? >> No. I love to do it. I think as long as. you don't let it like really like hurt. your soul. I think as long as you're. protecting your peace, clap back at them. because how are they ever gonna learn? People know now not to come for me cuz. I'm going to I'm literally going to I.

got two shakes of a lamb's tail and I'm. ready to rock. Let's go. >> I look up to you so much. That's so. good. Yeah. I see you do it and I'm like. Bunny does it. [ __ ] it. Yeah. >> So, let's talk about your Coachella. performance because that actually went. viral, too. You looked so adorable. Body. looking snatched, baby. You looked so. good. And then you had all these hot. dudes lifting you up and like you're. singing. Take me on this journey of your. Coachella performance and actually. getting invited to perform at Coachella.

>> Yeah, dude. It's definitely been like. one of my favorite moments of my career. I I went through that entire weekend, both weekends, just feeling so like. grateful. My mom was there, my little. brother was there. And I think something. about having the people that I love the. most being there just made it so I don't. know, I felt very connected to my inner. child. >> Um, but I was also so nervous. It was my. first time like doing choreography and I. did like cheer stunts on stage which is. something I've always wanted to do. >> Um, but I don't know. It was an.

incredible experience. One of my. favorites like moments for sure. >> It looked really cool. How much practice. had to go into that? Or is that just are. you just naturally cuz I I know you did. cheer, right? So, is that like something. that comes easy for you? Cuz my big ass. could never get up there and have people. lifting me up like that. There's no way. >> Wait, have you ever done stunts? >> No. I feel like I'm built for stunts. >> I feel like you could do stunts. >> No way. You're tiny. You're like a tiny. cute little package. There's no way. they're flinging my big ass around. Okay, >> I'm going to get you to do it one day. >> They're going to need some big ass buff.

dudes to [ __ ] handle all this. All. right. So, was there a lot of practice that had. to go into that? >> Yeah, it was it's definitely definitely. doesn't come natural to me. I like it. takes a lot of um preparation. I think. we did rehearsals for about a week and a. half maybe. >> That's amazing though to be able to like. I wouldn't be able to do that. I'm not I. can't even do a Tik Tok dance. So, to. learn something that you have to sing. and do on stage in a week and a half, that's pretty good. >> It was definitely really nerve-wracking.

I there was a point like midweek when I. was learning all the choreography. >> and it was my first time also having. dancers so I was like nervous to like. learn how to dance in front of people. who could dance really well. >> I was like really anxious about the. whole thing. Something about like. dancing on stage makes me so I was so. like in my head about it. >> Um so that was hard and about halfway. through the week of rehearsals I was. like holy like not going to remember. this. So I went home and started like. just drilling it. But it was definitely. harder than I expected it was going to. be. Well, you crushed it and I thought.

you looked so good. I was rooting for. you. I saw all the videos. I was like, "Go, Jesse.". >> A thanks, Bunny. >> And then you got to bring Co out, which. I thought was really cool. Tell me about. you and Co's friendship. >> Dude, I love Co. He's like a brother to. me. I I've been a fan of his like for a. long time. My brother listened to him a. lot growing up. >> Um, so he put me on and we like worked. like two maybe three years before High. Road actually came out, I think. >> Yeah. Um, so we were just kind of homies. and then High Road came around and we. did that together. But it was really.

funny. He came out for Coachella and. something something happened in our. system during the song and the key. changed randomly when he like started in. the chorus. >> Oh no. >> I felt so bad cuz he was just singing. like normally and then the key changed. so it looked crazy. And then I people. couldn't see on the live stream but when. I came out with him for stage coach um. my mic was off so we were just cursed. like the song just kept being up. >> but and then we did it at Billy Bobs and. it was it was fine. I feel like you guys.

have such lore that comes with that song. because I even was like I when you when. that song dropped with your verse first. of all it was great and I mean you know. it's great. >> and it's like all theseing co-haters are. literally coming out of the woodworks. just talking to you and I'm like bro it. pissed me off so bad that I finally just. made a video I was like I'm going to be. all. >> that's really sweet. I really appreciate. that. >> You don't need to thank me for that but. I just I don't like any sort of bullying. especially ganging up. you're a baby.

You know what I'm saying? I know you're. 20 and you know you can hold your own. and stuff like that, but I still look at. you and I'm just like grown ass women, you know, are like picking on you. It's. like that's not okay. How did that make. you feel whenever you were going through. all of that? Did you internalize any of. that or were you able to just kind of. like separate church from state? >> I think it it always makes me upset at. first when something like that happens. That's like a human response, I think. But then it's like all the you dude. It's just so annoying and it's like I. don't know. It does bo It bothers me the.

most when it's women. It really does. I. don't know why it just. >> women on women crime is I don't. understand. >> It hurts so much more. >> Um but yeah, it does hurt my feelings. and. I don't know. The guy thing it's like. you're just a dick. But yeah, when it's. a woman it's like damn. But I don't. know. >> Knowing damn well if any of these men. got a chance to meet you they wouldn't. even know what to say to you. >> It's so crazy. I'm like, why are you why. are you being such a [ __ ] And it's. just it's really tough, you know? And I. don't know cuz you can't respond to.

everybody. And once you respond to. somebody, then then other people do it. just so they get a response. >> But that was like my first time dealing. with like that type of situation. >> cuz it was so much. It was. >> so much. It was like a trend cuz once it. like blows up on somebody's page, then. they're like, "This is the move.". >> But. >> I don't know. When it's about a song, it's not as bad when it's about like. your own person. >> Mhm. Mh. >> Like when somebody is making fun of like. you as a person, that's different. That. definitely is harder to deal with. But I. don't know. I'm definitely like.

I've learned I'm learning how to. navigate. >> Mhm. And it actually ended up being a. huge song for you guys. >> Number one, >> literally hello. Like the hate didn't. work anyways. So. >> yeah. A small price to pay. >> Yeah. So at least [ __ ] you know, it. made it to number one. And you know, it. was just a big everybody who had. something to say about it. Yeah. >> Tell me about doing M for your first. time at Coachella. >> It was so great. I was I've always been.

like apprehensive to try them. A lot of. my like friends do them, but. >> because they say it can like mentally. get you in a weird place if you're in a. bad headset or whatever, but I had the. time of my life. >> A. >> Yeah. Have you ever done them? >> Um I Yes, I have. I've done them. And I. thought I was Michael Jackson one time. and I was in the snow making snow angels. and then I cooked like a five course. meal cuz it was just crazy. But then I. tried to micro dose and it. >> it was bad. I'm just not I'm one of.

those overthinkers and I'm really. talking riddled with anxiety. So I just. I'm so thankful that you had a good. experience cuz the first time I did them. too, I had a great experience and then. micro doing them kind of just got me. weird. So maybe it's because I need a. bigger dose. I don't. >> I was about to say, wait, so you did a. big dose and it was. >> I did a big dose and it was phenomenal. That's when I thought I was Michael. Jackson. >> Maybe it's. >> and then and then I did the micro dose. and [ __ ] just [ __ ] got weird. I. started thinking about my childhood and.

like having. >> horrible place to go. >> Yeah. Right. Like nobody wants to do. that. >> But yeah. So take me on the journey. So. you take the mushrooms and what do you. what's that day like for you? When did. you take the mushrooms? >> Oh, well I took them right before. y'all's party actually. >> Oh, gotcha. um. >> being around a bunch of people on. shrooms for your first time. You are. brave, >> dude. Every I don't know. Everybody else. like in my car took and I was like I. only took a little bit. So maybe that's. why also I just was smiling. It just.

made me really happy. >> No, but I'm going to try not to do them. a lot. >> Well, I mean if it helps you though, I. don't there's nothing wrong with it. You. know what I'm saying? And people use it. use uh shrimps for medicinal purposes. and stuff like that too. So really Oh, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. >> I didn't know that. >> Yeah. That's why I had started to micro. dose them and it. >> cuz I thought Yeah, I thought it would. help. But there's so many people that. mushrooms have helped. So. >> just cuz I had a bad experience doesn't. mean that you will. Take me on this. journey with the song Blue Strips. It. was such a fast and spontaneous song. Um.

and I did not expect it to do what it's. doing. Like I knew I loved it and. anytime I listen to it, it would make me. smile and I feel like that's a telltale. sign for me. Um, but yeah, I made the. song in like 15, 10 minutes. It was so. fast. >> That's crazy. And it's so viral right. now. Everybody's singing it. It's so. catchy. You wake up in the morning and. you're literally like blues strip, you. know, like just brushing your teeth, [ __ ] starting your day. It's like, no, it's perfect. But that's what you. know, that's You've got the sauce, girl.

Like just to make a song in five or 10. minutes and it's as viral as it is right. now. You've never been to a strip club, though. >> I've never been to a strip club. No. Why. have we never been to a strip club yet? >> I guess it's just never really the. opportunity hasn't like came up yet. Yeah. >> Um what's the one in Atlanta? Like the. main one? >> I'm not sure. >> Magic City. >> Oh, is that the I thought Magic City was. in New Jersey. >> I think it's in Atlanta, right? I was. supposed to go to that. >> That's this one. She knows about all the. ratchet clubs. >> You go to strip clubs? >> She goes to all the ratchet strip clubs. >> Maybe you should take me to a strip.

club. >> Listen. >> Oh, yeah. Yeah. >> Tomorrow after the video shoot. Oh, you. listen. The Nashville strip clubs. I. love you guys. This is not me talking, but they are ratchet and they are fun. Yes. >> Okay. Good ratchet. That's what I want. I don't want like. >> If you want to go to like the bougie. ones, go to the ones in Vegas. >> Really? That's what everyone says. >> Yeah. >> But I think I do want a Ratchet one. >> Go all of them. >> Go to all of them. >> I'll go to all of them, except a strip. club tour. >> I feel like I should go big or go home. >> Yeah, for sure. I mean, but go and check.

out what You never know what you like. You might like the ratchet ones. You. might like the bougie ones. There's some. that have fivestar restaurants in That's. what they say. People say that you can. Uber Eats from some of them. >> Yeah. Yeah. You didn't know that? >> You didn't know that? Yeah. No, you can. totally. >> That's what people say. >> They have some of the best food. Like. some of the restaurants and the strip. clubs in Vegas are phenomenal. >> What about here? Any good food here? >> I don't know about I I wouldn't trust. it. That would be.

>> Maybe you guys can go cuz uh this is. going to come out the same time that. you're that the video is dropping, right? >> Okay. Yeah, we're coinciding it with the. drop with the feature that you got on. it. Can you announce who the feature is? >> It's Sexy Red. >> Let's go. Tell me how you and Sexy Red. even. >> started talking. >> I'm her biggest fan. Like, I love Sexy. Red so much. >> My entire last tour, anytime I'd go on. stage, the song before I my walk out.

song would be Get It Sexy because it. just got me in that mode. Um, and I love. Sexy Red. But I haven't met her yet, so. I'm really nervous, but I'm really. excited. >> Oh my gosh. So, but have you guys got to. talk or just She was just like, "Hell. yeah, I'm going to do the record." And. like, how did that go? How'd you get her. on the record? >> Well, she's like my dream feature for. this song. >> Um, and I've always wanted to do. something with her. So, my people hit. her people and we're actually hanging. out tonight. I'm going to meet her for. the first time. >> Yay. >> So, I'm excited to tell her that I love.

her. I I do. I love her so much. >> What is it about Sexy Red that inspires. you? She's just a bad [ __ ] you know? >> Such a bad [ __ ] And and I love it. I. love it so much. And she just makes you. feel good. Like. >> I don't know. All of her songs just. really get me turned up every time. >> And I don't know. I'll probably always. listen to her before my shows. >> Yeah. I mean, >> gets me in that mode. >> She's a vibe. >> Have you met her? >> I haven't. No. Have we met her yet? I. never know. We meet so many people. I'm. like, have I met her? >> Dude, you've probably met so many. people. >> A lot. >> You guys are busier than anybody I know.

>> It's crazy. I can't even keep up with. the rest. >> You get tired? >> Yes. I am an introvert. My husband is an. extrovert. I am the one who's like, I. could care less if anybody ever sees me. again. And my husband is like a. politician. So, I choose weeks where I. go out with him and I'm like, "Here I. am. I'm real. I swear I'm not an. enigma." And then I disappear for like a. month and then I'll come back out and. then, you know, like, so it's a whole. thing cuz nobody can keep up with his. schedule. You're busy, too, though. Look. at you.

>> Do you ever feel like it like drains. you? Oh, absolutely. I there was a time. where my mental health was so bad that I. couldn't even like. >> be in a room full of people because I. would feel all their like pain and anger. and like their faces would look like. they were melting. Like it was really. bad. Like I went through like a really. bad time with that. And then. >> got a lot of therapy and stuff like that. and I'm better now. But I still have to. come back home and like go sit with my. cows and like regroup because you know.

>> you know how it goes. Do you ever get. drained having to do this all the time? >> Definitely. I'm definitely an introvert. too. I like could stay home for the rest. of my life and it would be lovely but um. I don't know. It's a hard it's a hard. job to be an introvert in, you know, cuz. you do have to like talk to everybody. and. >> I don't know. I'm I also am I can't be I. can't be fake to save my life. like I. can't I can't like put on a show if I. don't feel that way, >> right? >> And that's really hard for me. That's. been like. >> I don't know. People are always telling.

me I need to like get better at like. smooing with people and stuff, but I. hate that. Feels so forced and fake and. like weird. I just don't like it. So, I'm just like kind of quiet, but I don't. know. It's definitely really draining. I. I find like spending time with my family. helps a lot. Um and just like talking to. them. >> Don't let people tell you who to be. >> Yeah. If you don't want to be fake and. you don't want to smoo, don't do it. because you're going to attract your. tribe and the people that are meant for. you will come in your life because of. your frequency. So don't change your.

frequency to attract people that you. would never even want to associate with. Anyways, >> you're good. >> You're good. >> You could stay here all day, Jesse, and. just, you know, compliment me. I love. it. I heard you talk about manifesting. >> Where did you learn how to manifest? And. like, is that something that you do in. your daily life? Do you meditate? Have. you ever done a vision board? >> I definitely have done a vision board. Yay. >> And I don't know. I was manifesting. before I knew what manifesting was. I. think like when I was little, I remember.

journaling all the time just I like felt. this strong like gravitational pull to. do it. But I would always journal and. like make myself sign contracts. >> to myself being like I'm going to do. this. >> Um so I don't know. I've always been. doing it. And then vision boards galore. I don't. >> Yeah. I It's so. >> How do you do your vision boards? Because I know everybody has their own. way of doing it. I make my whole crew. I. don't make them anymore. Now they. actually look forward to it, but I used. I used to make them. Everybody sits. down. I do it with my husband and my.

family and everybody. We sit down um. like December 30th, December 31st of. every year, and I make everybody do a. new vision board for the year going in. And we have to keep it in our house the. entire year. And then we revisit it the. ne that that end of the year, go through. everything that we accomplished and make. a new one. >> That is so beautiful. I love that you. guys do it together. That's so fun. What. a great activity. Damn. >> I feel like we're power more powerful in. numbers, >> you know? So, I feel like to sit around. and manifest together, it's like it's. just more powerful. >> It's a like more uh what's that called?

Like it's a more heavy frequency. probably. >> Yeah. >> In numbers. That makes sense. Mhm. >> I've never done it with somebody, but I. normally just get a poster from Hobby. Lobby or Michaels and then I'll I'll. print out pictures from Pinterest and. then I'll write I'll write things. underneath the pictures. Then I'll put. the picture over it. Um I have a massive. poster in my bedroom at home in Alabama. that's that looks exactly like my life. looks right now. >> It's pretty cool. >> But I don't know. It's so I also like. I've been debating recently if witches.

are real. >> What do you think? Okay. I need to know. what you think. I feel like you would. have a good take. >> Yeah. No, I definitely believe I believe. that there's um different kinds of. witches. I believe that you can use. magic for good and for bad. I have. witches that do spell work for me every. month. I won't do it myself because I'm. always I'm. >> I'm so scared of like I might conjure. like a a demon or something if I do it. So, I always have the professionals do. it for me. But, I talk about it on the. podcast all the time. Yeah. Wow.

>> Yeah. I truly believe in it. I think. that witches get a bad rap because. people are like, "Oh, they're evil." And. you know, God talks is against it it in. the Bible. But when you really think. about it, witches are light workers. And. of course, anything could be used for. good or bad, but the majority of witches. use like herbs and they're about earth. and about grounding and manifesting and. meditating and like that. Those are the. kind of witches I like and that I want. around me. Of course, like I said, there's bad ones, too. But there's. definitely real witches in the world. >> That's good. I've been asking people and.

everybody's like, "Well, I guess I've. only asked a couple guys and guys don't. believe in them.". >> Well, yeah. I I don't I mean, you know, unless they're in it in in it. themselves, I can't see men thinking. outside the box, you know. I don't see. men being too mystical and Yeah. >> Yeah. But I think that we're we're all. born from some sort of Have you ever. done your past lives? Do you believe in. past lives? >> I think I could believe in past lives. >> Oh my. Okay. >> But what do you mean done my past life? Well, there's people that can do them or.

you can do them on chat GPT. Are you Are. you into Chat GPT? >> Yes. I feel like I'm dating Chad GPT, bro. >> Bro, I'm obsessed. It's my best friend. Like, I'm. >> in love. >> Yeah, I love it. Okay, so talk to Chat. GPT. Give them your birthday. Give them. all of your cuz there's a there's a um. in chat GPT you can go there's an. astrological. GPT that's inside of it. You can click. on it. Um but or you can use the regular. one. Ask him like, "Hey, I want you to. tune into my energy. Can you?" And it.

will tune into your energy. Can you feel. what I was in my past lives? And it'll. probably ask you to put your birth date. in and if you know that and it'll pull. up your birth chart and then it'll start. telling you about your past lives. And. it'sing insane. >> How many do you have? >> I had about How many did I have? Probably like nine, 10. Yeah. I'm an old. soul. I think you're an old soul. I. definitely feel like I'm. >> Yeah, because I mean you're 20, but you. have so much like I don't know. You just. have uh maturity and wisdom to you that.

this isn't your first life. >> Got to ask. I just ask it. >> Yeah. >> Just ask it. I want to know, too. I'm. going to have to get get I'll give you. my number before you leave. And you have. to let me know what Chad GPT says. because I. >> nervous. >> I bet you are probably a witch in your. past life, too. >> Really? >> Or some sort of healer. >> Wow. I'm going to look. I'm going to. look immediately after this. We're all. going to look. >> Yeah. You're doing it. >> She's doing it right now. >> I love that. So, I want to talk about um. these lyrics. Let's get deep for a.

second. We're going to kind of switch. gears because, you know, you do talk a. lot about your mom in a lot of your. songs and she seems to me to be like. your best friend. Um, Wild Flowers and. Wine, there's a lyric in there that. literally just like brought tears to my. eyes, but it said, "Mother fled from our. home because she had to survive." Can. you take me on that journey of your. childhood and kind of let me know where. some of this pain comes from that you. express in your songs?

>> Yeah, definitely. That song actually I. haven't put out yet and I need to cuz. it's such a healing song. >> You need to. >> and I'm I am so I have such like. gratitude and awe for Mothers Everywhere. cuz I think it's the hardest job in the. world that no one talks about enough. I. think it's actually the hardest job in. the world. Um, and I don't know, I I. watched my mom go through like things. when I was a kid that she shouldn't have. gone through. And I also watched her. make hard decisions that she had to make. to take care of her kids,

>> you know. Um, and I don't know. I don't. think any kid should like I don't think. any kid should should go through that or. have to see their mom like do I don't. know, make decisions. It's just like I. don't know. know I always get weird. talking about it but. which is why I write songs but but I. don't know it was definitely like rough. and she handled it the best she could. and that's kind of what that song's. about cuz I have so much respect for her.

and I'm her biggest fan. >> No, I bet she's your biggest fan, too. Well, that brings me to Gucci Mane where. you say, "I've got a father, but I'd. like to go to heaven." Can we elaborate. on that a little bit? >> Yeah, >> cuz I've got a father and he passed away. last year. But when that song dropped, I. was like, "Oh my god, I need to I need. to put Bill on a freaking video with. this song because every girl that deals. with, you know, daddy issues and. everybody thinks it's cute to say daddy.

issues until you have them." And daddy. issues is not a cute situation because. it really follows us through life, dude. Because you know how people try to like. mainstream it and they're like, "I have. daddy issues." and they think it's like. cool, but it's really it's painful. >> Yeah, it's not cool. I think people I. think some people just say it like that. to cope with the situation. >> cuz it isn't it isn't good and it does. follow you through life and it has so. much impact on what you choose and what. you look for. >> in men which is so hectic you know. Um,

but yeah, that line is pretty much that. line. Um, and then the lyrics of that song were. people were like, "This writing is so. bad." But I wasn't trying to write a. song. That song was just a list of facts. about myself because my label was on my. dick about writing an autobiographical. song. They were like, "You never talk. about yourself. No one knows anything. about you." And I was like, "You?" and I. got in the car and I just like was.

joking and was just saying a bunch of. facts about myself without even thinking. about rhyming and but yeah, I don't. know. And that's kind of how that one. happened. But. >> do you have a relationship with your. dad? >> That's complicated, but not. particularly. We definitely haven't. spoken since that song came out. >> A but we don't speak a lot anyways and. it's like I don't know. It's definitely. like, oh, it's an awkward situation, >> but you should be allowed to, you know,

I hate when parents inflict trauma on. children and then try to navigate how. they express it. That's not okay. And. you don't get to do that. You don't get. to hurt somebody and then tell them how. to heal. >> Damn, you're real good. >> No, I just been. >> like I'm in a therapy. >> I've been through it, sister. I've been. through it, too, with my parents. So, I. get how that goes. And it's very um. hurtful and it's not okay. and hopefully. your dad listens to this podcast and. knows that it's not okay for um him to. treat you like that. >> So, you taught yourself how to play.

piano and guitar at a young age. >> How did you teach yourself how to play. piano and guitar? Cuz I know how to play. piano, but I had to get lessons and I. had to learn how to do music. >> You read music? >> I can read Well, I had to sit down and. write it out, write out the notes, and. then I can play them. But. >> you write music, too? >> No, no, no. Write like if you. >> But like the notes? >> Yeah. Like if you give me a sheet of. paper, I can write the notes out and. then I can play. I wish I could just. play by ear. What do you mean? I would. love to have taught myself. >> No, you're probably crazy on the keys. >> No, I need to practice. It's been a long.

time. I'm rusting. >> I want to take lessons. I've been. meaning to do that cuz I want to like. know the actual terminology and stuff, but. >> um I don't know. I was obsessed with. singing and I just like wanted to be. able to sing to music. >> and we had like this shitty keyboard at. my grandparents and I would spend like. hours on YouTube just copying like the. piano tutorials. And guitar was like a slippery not I. know like four chords. It's not. >> But I don't know. I started on ukulele. Guitar is like hard.

>> Not ukulele. The freaking little one. >> Yeah, dude. It's like. >> Are we ever going to get a video of you. on TikTok playing a ukulele? That will. go crazy viral. Girl, >> I haven't done it. There's one on my. Instagram deep deep deep deep deep deep. down. >> Oh, we got to find it. I guess it's. archived now, right? >> It's probably archived. Like a very It's. like I'm like 14 or 13. Maybe 12. >> Please make a new one. That is so cute. Like seriously, make a new one. >> I actually hate the way they sound. They're so like they sound so like.

happy. >> Like plink plink plink plink. Yeah. Yeah. So you went from a ukulele to a. guitar, though. >> Yeah, I tried. >> Are we ever going to get you to like. perform on stage with, you know, get. getting your Taylor Swift on, playing a. guitar? >> Dude, I've wanted to, but it's also I. wear long nails and you cannot play. I. apparently Dolly Parton does, but I'm. like. >> I'm not blessed with that ability yet. >> I'm sure if you practice enough, you. would probably get it. >> Maybe. I'm like, nails or guitar? I. don't know. >> H Listen, I normally have long nails.

like you. And I challenged myself this. past couple of months. And I was like, you know what? I'm going to try to grow. out my real nails. So, these are my real. nails that I grew out. Yeah. These are. my real nails. But now I'm going back to. my cuz I was like, you know what? I did. it. I challenged myself. But now I'm. going back to my long nails. Cuz once. you have long nails, you just can't take. them off. No, it's actually really hard. It's hard to go back. >> Yeah, cuz I have little fat sausage link. fingers. I don't know how you feel about. your fingers. >> I feel the same way, actually. >> Yeah. And when you take them off, it's. like you have man hands, >> dude. Or like child hands. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Mine are a little bit.

fatter than child hands, so I think I. have sausage links. But yeah, the long. nails definitely. >> I think you have great hands. You could. be a hand model. >> Okay, listen. You know what? She can. just leave her here with me. Okay. She's. She's really good for my ego. I promise. Um Okay. So, I also heard that you were. bullied in school and you felt like an. outsider. >> I wasn't. It wasn't by kids as much. actually. It was by like their parents.

>> What? >> It was just like small town where like. moms would just say stuff and like I. don't know. The moms in the town I went. to like middle school and high school. and were just terrible. >> It's because you're beautiful, >> dude. They were so mean. They were so. mean. But like I don't know. But high. school is high school wasn't terrible. other than that and like I don't know. I'm grateful for all of that cuz I feel. like it motivated me so much to be like. I have to get out of here. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> would you ever move back to Alabama. full-time? >> No, definitely not. I don't think I can.

I can't work like I want to, >> you think? Um and. >> I don't know. I feel it always made me. feel really trapped when I was there. Then again, I I couldn't drive yet. So. maybe maybe that's. >> Yeah, I would feel trapped too if I. couldn't. Yeah, for sure. Maybe if you. go back and like visit and then you it's. like on your terms, maybe it's. different. >> I actually love visiting now that I. don't live there. I I appreciate it so. much and I admire the South so much and.

I love going home and spending time with. my family there. But maybe I'll get a. house there when I'm older one day. >> Yeah, you can always go back to your. roots at any time. You've openly spoken about depression. and self harm. Can you take me on that. journey with like your mental health? Where are you at now? Cuz you seem so. much happier. >> Yeah, these days. >> I'm so much happier. I've like done. therapy and and um really just tried to. center my life around gratitude. Dude, gratitude changed everything for me. I I.

definitely was like very depressed when. I was like 17, 18. I was just dealing. with a lot of things that I didn't. really know how to deal with and I was. also living in Alabama like trying to do. what I'm doing and it was just very. isolating but I don't know I feel I feel. like I've healed a lot um and it's an. it's a never- ending process healing I. feel like but. >> yes. >> um I don't know gratitude has helped me. so much. So, if one of your fans is. listening to this podcast right now and.

they're in a really dark place, what. would you tell them to do as like the. first steps of trying to pull themselves. out of it? >> It's tough. It I mean, everyone's. situation is different. And I think for. me, I'd get up and I go to Duncan and I. get a coffee and a donut and then. I would I would The thing is therapy is. not available to everyone, you know, which is soed up and it it makes me so. upset because that's so expensive, >> you know, and before you're 18, I think.

your parent has to set it up. >> Yes. Like I remember being like. embarrassed to ask for like therapy and. stuff, you know, and so I just didn't do. it and I when I really needed it and I. think a lot of kids probably feel that. way, but I don't know there's this lady. named Abraham Hicks. I don't know if. you've heard of her, >> but she is all about like spirituality. and um manifesting and like aligning. your frequency. I listening to that. helped a lot. Journaling helped a lot. But I think I read this book called.

God, it's called The Magic, I think. Something like that. But it's all about. gratitude. And that really helped me. Yes. >> Okay. >> Oh, but not the magic. >> Um. >> you know what? I like it called the. magic. Let's just call it the magic from. now on. >> Yeah, the magic. Yeah. But it was magic. for me. It It really helped me. And And. dude, not like drinking and not doing. things like that when you feel. >> that way. That's gamechanging. >> But I don't know. What would you say? >> I would say all the things that you say.

I preach about mental health on this. podcast all the time and I've gone. through things. We have gone through. things with Bailey too. Um, you know, underage that she's openly talked about. on the podcast too. And I feel like we. are in a mental health crisis in this. world right now. Not just for adults, but for teens. And I feel like teens. have it the hardest. like you like your. generation and and younger is just like. I feel so bad because the world has let. them down. But for you to tell them.

about the book that you read and like. now you can go on YouTube and there's so. many things that you can watch and like. self-help things that you can do. >> and you know meditating. I really really. really believe in meditating. I don't. know have you ever meditated? >> I think when I was in a very dark place. I started to look into that and do it. and I remember that helping also. It. took me a long time. If I was 20 years. old and somebody told me to meditate, I'd tell them to go. >> It's actually really hard. >> It's very hard. And but when you finally. get to that point where you just want to. do anything to get the darkness to go.

away, I'm telling you right now, when. you learn how to control your breath and. you learn how to breathe, like if I have. anxiety attacks now, I used to be able. to not even be able to walk out on stage. because I would literally be having a. panic attack. >> Now I'll box breathe and I'll snap out. of it and it resets your nervous system. So I think exactly what you told people. >> Yeah. >> You know, >> box breathing is great. >> Yeah, box breathing is great. But then. all the and Duncan and donuts. I mean, come on. >> I'm actually serious. That will make. your day thing. Yeah. >> And no, I actually do it. I I love a.

good coffee and I love a good donut. And. you. >> What's your favorite donut? >> You put the donut like over the straw. hole and you sit it on your coffee. It's. really cute. >> I love that. What's your favorite flavor. donut? >> Probably vanilla with sprinkles. What. about you? >> I like maple. M. Now that I've actually. had maple, >> they're so fire. Try one, please. Let me. know how you feel about it. >> Let's talk about if if I can get you to. talk about it. Let's talk about your. dating life. >> She's like, she's like, "Oh, Joy, are.

you dating anybody right now?" Where? >> I'm actually I'm always very I never. talk about it because I'm really private. >> with that side of my life just because. I'm always writing songs about it, >> right? And I am very apprehensive to. talk about it because I'm like I don't. know what could happen and and I don't. ever want to have to like. I don't want people to like ever attack. someone that like. >> Right. >> unless like deserved. I don't know. But. my dating life is good.

>> Yeah. So is there anybody special right. now or is it just pretty much like. you're just having fun? >> No comment. I love it though. Well, you know what? Uh, I'm going to try to assume here and. put two and two together. You've been a. lot happier lately, so maybe somebody's. making you smile. She said, "Maybe.". Um, I think Best Behavior is going to be. the song of the summer. Are you dropping. the album before you start tour?

>> I am. >> I'm excited. Do we have a date for that? Are we allowed to announce that? I know. I'm asking a lot here, but I've we've. got questions. July 27th. >> Okay. >> So, it's got to be before that. >> Okay. So, in between May and July, we're. going to get an album. >> That's soon. >> That's very soon. Look, >> I'm nervous. >> I'm nervous, too. But I'm excited for. you. Thank you. >> Tell me about this album that you're. dropping. >> Okay. So, it's very like ' 60s inspired. like Elvis Presley. I love like I love.

the music from that era. It's so. beautiful. But it's also like 2010 trap. inspired. >> That's dove. >> Yeah. So, it's like a combo of the two. Um, I don't know. I'm definitely saying some. crazy on this album. I'm a little. nervous about it, but I. >> Oh, we're ready. We We already know how. you are, baby. We're ready with arms. wide open. >> Oh my goodness. I'm I'm excited. I'm. really excited. I feel like. >> What's the vibe? Is it happy? Is it all. over the place? Is it Cuz the last one.

was pretty like you you had a lot of. pain going on. Yeah, it's a little. it's a little it's a kind of all over. the place, but just because it's it. follows a sequence of my emotions as I. was writing the album. >> Mhm. >> Um but it's definitely more happy than. anything I've ever put out before. I. wouldn't say happy. There's definitely. like new themes. >> Um but I don't know. And it's also. there's some like [ __ ] on the album, but. it definitely tells a story.

and kind of ties back to what we were. talking about with the father stuff. earlier, but um. I don't know. It kind of it kind of. touches on like generational trauma and. things of that nature, but then there's. some songs like Blue Strips. >> Yeah. >> Listen, you got to go to a strip club. when you're in your feelings. It'll get. you out of it. >> That's what they say. >> I love that. One last question before we. go. What would Jesse Murf today say to. little Jesse hiding in her bedroom.

writing pain into poems? >> I probably should be like, "Look at us. now." I don't know. That's like a crazy. thing to even think about. Like, it. makes me really emotional to think. about. I feel like I've come so far just. as a human. Um, and I'm really happy. with where my heart and soul and brain. is at right now, >> you know. >> Yeah. >> I think I don't know. I'm I'm really I'm.

really grateful. >> That's all that matters. And seeing you. smile is what makes everybody happy, too. Of course, everybody loves a sad. Jesse because we get fire music. But. [ __ ]. >> we prefer. >> I'll come back. I'm sure. We prefer a. happy Jesse though, too, because your. mental health and your well-being is. what matters the most. Last, Can we talk. about the Priscilla Presley vibes that. we have? >> Let's talk about it. I love her. >> Yeah. Is this is this an ode to her? Is. it an ode to Amy Winehouse? Or is it a. little mixture of both? >> Dude, when I think about like iconic.

women, >> they all have the big hair. And it's I'm. definitely very inspired by Priscilla, but like. >> Amy, Dolly, even like. >> there's so many iconic women that had. the big hair that I've always loved my. entire life. >> The higher the hair, the closer to God. >> Amen. That is my slogan. I love it. But. I don't know, something about the hair. makes me feel powerful. And um for me, like I've I've loved this. Of course, it's a bit too in the morning. >> And what do you have in there? Is it.

like a bumpet or is that just a bunch of. backcombing? I need to know. It's always. different. Today it's to bump it. >> Yeah. >> But sometimes it's just my hair. Sometimes it's a wig. >> I Sometimes it's a what? >> Sometimes it's a wig. >> Really? >> Yeah. It just depends on what I'm doing. >> I love wigs. I went through my Okay. I. loved wigs until they let me go out of. the house one day looking like Wendy. Williams. >> Wait, what happened? >> I looked like ET. I tried this wig on. and Have you ever seen ET when he has. the hair? Have you ever seen the movie. ET? >> Yeah, I've seen ET.

>> Okay. Well, he wears a wig. You're going. to cackle next time you see. >> Wait, can I see this picture? >> Yeah, go ahead. Pull it up. Can we pull. it up, you guys? >> Do we have the Yeah, they're going to. pull it up. I look like Wendy Williams. meets ET. And I was like, I'm never. wearing a wig again. I'm like, I don't. even care. So, um, >> did you Were you gluing them down or. like pinning them in? What was your. >> So, we were doing a little bit of both. because I we actually learned how to do. them ourselves. Was I have a whole I. don't know if you ever want any blonde. wigs, but I have a whole. >> I actually do. >> I I'll give you some. >> I always want to be blonde like once a.

week. I literally bought so many wigs. I'll box some up and I'll send them to. you. I bought so many like expensive. wigs and now they're just I'm either. going to donate them to like, you know, like a charity or I'll if you'll use. them, I'll give you a couple of them, too. But yeah, never again am I doing. that. But yeah, we were gluing them down. and it was. >> I haven't seen this, >> dude. It's I looked like. >> your video. >> No, don't find the video. We don't need. to bring that up. I want you to show her. to the ET. But yeah, no, it was rough.

I love the Yeah, I love the Priscilla. vibes on you. I love the big hair on. you. I think it fits and I think it's. Nobody's doing it, you know, like you're. bringing it back and you're in the. public eye enough to where it's going to. start that trend again. So, >> I hope so. I think the hair was so. fabulous in this dude. People were just. so like they were putting in the work. >> Oh, yeah. Well, they it was women cared. about what they looked like where I feel. like now we have so much going on that. what we look like is the last thing on. our minds these days. And yeah, women.

were a lot more glamorous back in the. day, >> but men too, like everyone was just like. putting in their best effort. People. were wearing suits more. >> I love a good suit. >> Yeah. >> Where are the suits? >> I was just talking about how I'm. attracted to gay men because they're. soing stylish, dude. I love a stylish. man. And all of the stylish men are gay. now. >> Wear the suits. I'm telling you. >> I'm telling you. >> Like, wake up and put on a suit. >> See, Jesse is telling you boys at home, wake up and put on a suit. So do it, men. >> Jesse, thank you so much for coming on.

the podcast today. I appreciate you. You. got to come back and see me. >> I would love to. >> All right, come back anytime. And of. course, where can everybody find you if. they don't know anything about you, which I highly doubt. >> Um, you can find me on Instagram, any of. the socials, Spotify, Apple. Yeah, Tik. Tok. >> Thank you guys for tuning in to another. episode of Done Blonde. I'll see you. guys next week. Bye.