Jeffree Star | Dumb Blonde Podcast

Is this [music] thing on? >> Bonnie, who used to be a former worker. and now host the podcast Dumb Blonde. >> Most little girls grow up wanting to be. doctors and lawyers and I was like, I. want [music] to be super hot, make a lot. of money, and be a rockstar's wife. That. was my goal as a child, and here we are. >> What's up, you sexy mother? >> Welcome to another podcast. >> Today, I have the enigma, the social. media enigma, the queen of queens. Hi, >> Jeffree Star, baby.

>> Thank you for having me, >> dude. This has been a long time coming. >> It really has. >> I'm so happy you're here. >> Thank you for having me. >> Who the would have known that Montana. would bring us together? >> I know. [laughter] So, we're literally. in Bosezeman, Montana. We're backstage. >> in a locker room. >> We are. We're in a [laughter] locker. room. The behind me and we are meeting. for the first time today. >> We've been talking all year. >> Yes. >> And life finally brought us together. So, thank you for having me. And it's. crazy because we did have a mutual. friend who just passed away, Daniel. And.

he. >> loved you so much, dude. He told me. >> it's crazy that you met him and I like. and hung out with him for so long and I. never met you. So I never to meet. Daniel. We were literally online friends. for like 10 years. >> Oh. Oh my god. I thought you guys. partied in Vegas back in the day as. well. >> Nope. Nope. Nope. Just But we grew up. around the same circle. He had the same. friends I did. Like we never got to. actually meet. But we literally talked. all the time online. Like it was crazy. I just loved that. I loved him, dude. He. was just such a good soul.

>> Was one of a kind, honestly. >> So, I just feel like this was like. Daniel's doing possibly like pushing us. together. >> That's beautiful. >> I have seen so many podcasts of you and. I feel like, >> did you notice how I was like silent for. a long time and then I just, you know. what, it's time to talk. >> What what what brought that on? Like. >> I think during 2020 and like during the. pandemic like I had such a crazy. trajectory and then the pandemic. >> and so much online drama like exploded. >> Yeah. >> So I moved to Wyoming. I went to. therapy. I really worked on myself and I.

was like you know what I want to share. >> that journey not just all the dramatic. chaotic. >> you know just makeup stuff only. I. wanted to share how I healed. >> I love that. >> Let people see like who I am now you. know. So, I started doing podcast. >> Amazing. >> And thank you. >> And a lot of males fixate. >> um on every time I'm on their podcast. We all know I'm never going to fully. kiss and tell. >> I love that about you cuz I'm the same. way. I was a. >> period.

>> So, I'm never going to kiss and tell the. celebrities that. >> What do you get when you put two escorts. together? [laughter]. >> Jeffrey and Bunny. >> So, a lot of people don't know that I. used to be the queen of Craigslist in. LA. >> Yes. Um, I used to make so much money. during the MySpace era. >> Oh, yeah, for sure. >> And then, >> so when you say queen of Craigslist, were you mean like putting like ads on. there and stuff or like to do? >> Yeah. And I and I recently found some. old ads in my old account. >> cuz I am writing an autobiography. finally. >> That's brave cuz Craigslist and Back.

Page, man, you literally like. >> Oh, I miss Back Page. [laughter]. >> You were literally risking your life to. be on those. I did EOS. I was an EOS. girl, so I literally would post my ads. and then, you know, screen them. And. then sometimes I would work for the. services in Vegas and stuff like that. But um. >> and networking, we were in big cities, so it's like people think like es they. think we're like at the the street. corner with no teeth with our thumb out. >> There's levels to this. >> levels. >> I try to explain that to people all the. time. Nobody gets it. >> And then you you start networking and. meeting people. So I'm this broke kid. I.

moved out at 17. I was like my mother. >> Let's rewind that really quick. Let's. rewind it and then we'll get to the head. and the the body. [laughter]. >> So, I want to rewind it back because you. remind me so much of myself. We have. been through a lot of we mascul dirty. jokes and humor. >> and humor very dark humor. >> and you know. >> going through the stuff that you've gone. through I don't I'm pretty sure you know. half of my following probably does know. your story but I'm sure the other half.

doesn't. And I think that that really is. an epic part of your journey because. it's showing overcoming. >> Yes. >> So, we're survivors. >> Yeah. Exactly. Yes. For sure. So, growing up, you grew up in. >> Orange County, California. So, I'm from. Huntington Beach, 714, and it was really. boring growing up. Like, it was just. everyone was like surfing and skating, and I just never really felt. >> like I fit in. I was very punk rock. I. had I was the first person to have like. pink hair dye at my school and I just.

tried to break all the barriers without. really knowing it. I was just like, well, I'm going to be me and I'm going. to be myself. Um, and for some reason I. got over the part where you care what. other people think. >> at an early age. >> At an early age, I think cuz my. childhood was so chaotic. My parents. were drunk my whole life. Um, and that. so people don't know this. Well, some. people do, but I've never tried alcohol. And I think people sometimes have a hard. time believing that cuz you know we all. we always used to post pictures with. stuff. So there's photos of me with like. a whiskey bottle. I'm like yeah it's all.

for show. >> It's literally all for show. >> Mhm. >> So you know people always dig things out. of the ashes but I've never tried. alcohol. I never will. Um my dad died. when I was five. So he drank himself to. death. He killed himself and he was just. really miserable. And. >> did he commit suicide or did he die from. cerosis? >> Uh. it's like a it's like a tricky line, >> right? But suicide, >> right? >> Yeah. So, he was like on the brink and. was like, "Okay, I'm finally done.". >> So, the last time I remember seeing him, his skin was yellow, his eyebrows were. falling out.

>> He looked horrific. And he grabbed me by. the arm and I was 5 and a half and he. was like, "Please don't ever drink.". Like, it's ruined our family. And that. was my last memory of my dad. >> That was his blessing to you. >> Yeah. It was It was wild. Yeah. That to. me when she. >> spiraled and obviously got worse, >> right? So she would drink, recycle the. beer cans to get more alcohol and just. had a string of really annoying. boyfriends. No one ever like abusive or. crazy, but just always fighting. She. never fell in love again. She was. literally in love with my dad and it.

didn't work out cuz his he couldn't stop. drinking. That was what ruined the. marriage. >> What when you're 5 years old and your. father passes away, how are you feeling? Like do you remember any of it? >> I do. I remember my mom telling me like. a week or two after I saw him. She took. me to the same park. and she goes, "Hey," like she tried to. explain to me like my dad died and. >> she always likes to say this. I. literally like blinked. >> immediately put all the trauma away and. was like, "Okay, um can we get some more.

ice cream?". >> So you knew just growing up in chaos. that it was better to just push it down. instead of react. >> Yes, >> it had. was horrible for me later when. all the like emotions and traumas and. demons were coming out and I'm in high. school. My whole body is the cutting. board. >> Yeah. >> I'm like fully and like a you know. secret one not like I want attention. like you know it's. >> I feel like back in the day mental. health was not talked about talked about. it like how it is. Yeah. And in cookie. cutter Orange County, no one was talking. about feelings,

>> right? >> It's like get the over it. You know, everyone's all the husbands are cheating. on the wives. All the you know, everyone's getting beat. all these crazy. things are happening and it's just swept. under the rug and it's like the row. housewives of Orange County, you know. >> Absolutely. Yeah. [snorts] No, it really. is. The West Coast is a different beast. People don't understand that unless. you've grown up on the West Coast. It's. completely different way of thinking and. way of living as like, you know, [ __ ]. Montana or [ __ ] Wyoming. >> So, I didn't untrain this behavior until. probably like six years ago. >> When you were cutting, was that your way.

of just kind of like relieving the pain? And did I mom know? She didn't know for. years and then I slipped up and got. comfortable and she saw it for the first. time. >> Was it on your arms? Is that why? Oh, >> it was everywhere. But I would wear like. >> heavy clothes all the time. It would be. 90° but I was gothic and my style was. very punk rock so no one ever questioned. it. >> Yeah. >> You know, it would be like I would I had. photography class and I would go in the. dark room and cut my legs and then come. back out and no one ever knew. Like. crazy stuff like that.

>> You're just hurting so bad. >> Yeah. So, I felt like it helped me feel. a little bit. >> because I felt so numb and like dead. inside, but I never wanted to. >> kill myself. I never had thoughts. >> Well, because your dad passed away that. way. So, possibly that was like. >> So, I never had the thoughts of like I. want to end my life, but I was doing it. to just feel something, >> right? I understand that. >> And then it became like an addiction. Mhm. >> Well, you get addicted to the pain. because it's the only time that you. actually. >> You know what's really up is I was also.

addicted to the watching it heal. >> Wow. >> It was like deep. >> Yeah. >> Hi, nice to meet you. >> Don't start joking. >> No. Yeah, it was it was really like. >> Yeah, it was that serious. >> That's so much trauma to go through at. such a young age. When did you start. cutting? >> I would say like ninth grade. And then I. stopped when I graduated high school. >> and I broke away. But my mom did catch. me. So we're in this little apartment. and she always made me do chores. Single.

mother, only child and I'm a Scorpio. >> It's a lot there. >> I think you might have a lot of. Capricorn placements. Cap and Sagge. I. want I want to do your birth chart. Have. you done your birth chart? What is it? >> It's stunning. I'll show you later. [laughter]. >> He's like, I'm not showing anybody. online. >> Oh my god, that's stunning. Um, so. [clears throat] she caught me when I was. doing the dishes. She always made me do. chores and clean the bathroom and have. manners and LA and I was a straight A. student. >> She said, "You can look however you. want, do whatever you want. Dye your. hair pink, red, black, do extensions." I. shaved off my brows in 10th grade. No. one was doing that.

>> at all. >> It was like horror and shock, >> right? >> And like a pioneer of sorts. >> It was crazy. And she caught me one day. when I was doing the dishes and I wasn't. wearing long sleeves and she came home. from work early and when you've been. doing it for so long. So, she caught me on and she saw the. side of the arm. I'll never forget it. >> What did she say? >> I mean, you know, most parents don't. fully know how to articulate it because. they immediately go to he wants to die. and it's like, you know, and she is a. train wreck. So, you are.

>> That was my mom. Trust me, I get it. >> Yeah. So, it was rough and we never. >> jelled. So, I'm 17 and a half. I. graduate high school early. I'm out. I'm. going to LA. And by then, I had been. going to a lot of shows. I was 17 with. the fake ID going to the key club, the. whiskey on Sunday. >> I had a fake ID, too. I was at the Rio. and [ __ ] pinkies and all that. >> I had to wear so much makeup. No one. really knew how old I like they couldn't. tell if I was 16 or 30, you know? >> And. >> let's dial it back real quick before you.

left home because didn't wasn't one of. your first experiences at 12? >> Yeah. >> I mean, how do you even know to have. [laughter] sex at 12? >> Oh my god. Um I don't know. No, it just. naturally happened. And I think boys are. really curious, but men don't like to. talk about this stuff, >> right? >> So, when you're in like ninth, 10, this. is eighth grade for me. So, let's dial. it back to eighth grade, >> right? >> Me and this guy Jeff and the football. team and a foreign exchange. Not another. Jeff. >> Yeah. So, the first guy I ever blew had. the same name as me.

>> Wow. >> Life. So, me. >> So, you were already feeling that you. were into boys. >> Yeah. So, eighth grade was the first. experience. Fifth grade was when I was like, "Oh, like, okay, girls are attractive, but. I'm more attracted to men.". >> Gotcha. >> And yes, I've slept with both. I love. everyone, but I prefer men. Yeah. >> Um, but I love everyone. >> I loved boys and makeup. Boy George was. my first crush. >> Hate it. [laughter]. >> Love Boy George, but I am not attracted. to men in makeup. I don't like. femininity. I like a masculine man.

>> I love that. >> So, if someone looked like me, it's the. biggest turnoff, >> right? Well, yeah. I [laughter] got I. wouldn't want to [ __ ] somebody who. looked like me either. So, I get it. >> But like I'm not into glam boys. I'm not. into femininity, but I love a bad like. you're hot. I love you. >> But I don't want like a guy in makeup, >> right? No, [laughter] I totally but you. know what? My dad was a musician and he. had long black hair and he played in the. band and he had, you know, so I've. always been attracted. >> to the the emo boys, you know, the Chris.

Motionless and the. >> he was just in Wyoming. >> [ __ ] like that. So, I know I can't. We're talking about that later. >> We We can't We'll have to bleep his name. out. >> No eyeliner, like nice body tattoos, whatever. >> Sports guys, right? Or no, >> nowadays. But in the war tour days, it. was like country boys and like scene. boys, the MySpace, you know. >> Yeah. >> Oh my god. Give me flashbacks. I'm in. heat. >> We're in eighth grade. I'm ready to. swallow.

>> Fifth. [laughter]. [gasps]. >> Okay. Fifth grade. You were already. attracted to boys and then eighth grade. >> and I already looked. >> different where in fifth grade was the. first time I was called a gaylord in a. >> a. >> Oh yeah. >> Really? >> Oh, absolutely. >> It was it was this era of '9s where like. the guys wanted to be like gangster and. wear baggy flannel and these huge Tommy. Hill fig. I dated was gangsters. >> and I was more like little button-up boy.

scout like tight cut military haircut. cuz my grand my grandparents raised me. while my mom was getting sober. So she. got sober when I was in high school. finally. Oh, good. >> Thank God. And she's been sober since. >> Yay, mom. >> Congratulations to her. 23 years. Let's. go. >> Let's [ __ ] go. >> But yeah, it was. >> So 12 years old, you and Jeff hook up. and it turned into a threesome, right? >> Yeah. So, my first like real experience. with a guy was with two guys. >> Okay, gotcha. >> And while I've been writing my book,

I've been told by the guy that's writing. with me, >> which by the way, I love Neil Strauss. >> He's a genius. >> Don't like it. >> So, he definitely let me analyze myself. very deeply with this. >> And he's like, "Everything you do. without you knowing it is extreme.". >> And I was like, "Huh." And that hit me. hard in a good way. But it's just like. everything I do like, "Oh, I bought some. land. Now it's the biggest yak ranch in. America. >> and I'm in seven restaurants. I can't. just like let things be, >> right? Well, you came from nothing. And. I'm literally I'm a money hoarder. Literally, I have so much [ __ ] around.

[laughter] Like, it's crazy. Once you. when you come from nothing, you want. everything. We both turned dirt into diamonds. >> Literally. And you're never happy like. that. It's once you reach one goal, it's. the next goal. It's the next goal. It's. the next goal. >> Okay, good. You understand? >> Yeah. No, totally. I have a lot of. Capricorn in me, though, too. So, I'm. like I never give up. I'm literally just. always going. Um, so moving on. after. your first threesome. Take me on that journey. You're 17. You've are leaving home. You're going. >> I literally got a U-Haul at my And I.

always had older friends, of course. I. hate I hated immature little kids. >> Um so someone. >> Same. I was the same way. >> That's it. So, they rented me a U-Haul. We pulled up. I said, "Bye, mom. Like, I'm I'm I'm out." And I. >> Did she just let you go? >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I mean, what was she going to do? You. know, but it was good. It was really. good. But I had to grow up quick, >> right? So, >> especially on the streets of Hollywood. >> Yes. So, my birthday's in November. So, then I turn, school's over in June, July, August. So, I'm doing like little. freelance makeup jobs, barely making it.

by, and I'm sleeping on someone's couch. She works at MAC Makeup. She's like, "You're 18 now. Like, you need to work. at MAC. Your your makeup's so fierce. Like, hello." And she was way older than. me. So, she got me. >> the in and obviously I sold myself. My. first job. So, my first job ever was at. MAC Cosmetics. >> A. >> and now I'm their competitor. >> Yeah. Literally, [laughter]. you went in there, took all their tips. and tricks. >> I'm a MAC alumni. I have I have Ruby Woo. lipstick tattooed on my arm. I'm a MAC. alumni forever. Like, and I still wear.

their their powder. I love it. But. >> I could totally picture you being at. MAC, too. >> Yeah. Highest seller. I bet all. But. then it already started. Everyone. already, you know, the jealousy, the. craziness, the. >> And then I learned the industry was. really catty. It wasn't about the. artistry. It was all very competitive. and LA was like very cutthroat and back. then there wasn't a million makeup. artists like there is now. There was no. technology, no phone, no one could even. process that. We barely just started. having phones. Right. >> Right. >> So there's. >> I had beepers and. >> Yeah. I had when I looked down, I'm.

looking at my list of notes that I had. So, >> and what were we just saying? >> Um, you were talking about Mac hybrid. like squirrel. Um, you were talking. about Mac. >> baby. hater. We were freelancing. We were. going to different locations and I was. always had the top sales. It was really. fun. And as you meet people in the store. as customers, you start networking. So. from day one, my online journey and by. the way, I was already online at this. point. I was already on these websites.

that people don't even know exist like. hot ornot.com. >> Dude, I loved hot or not. >> Live journal and all these things that. people don't even know existed. And I. was already. >> That was our childhood. >> Yes. >> Literally. >> So I would meet people. >> Is anyoneup.com? >> Is anyone up? Oh [laughter] Jesus. >> All those. >> Oh my god. Yes. And all of a sudden I'm. getting clients outside of the store, >> right? >> And I'm doing makeup for music videos, lowfi. z-list movies that no one's ever heard. of. And then I meet this girl and she. start I start working for Hustler.

>> I start doing makeup for porn. >> Wow. >> At 19. So I just started networking and. just making as much money as I could. But for the lifestyle I knew I was meant. for, it wasn't enough. >> Right. So that's when someone introduced. me. Of course, I did some girls makeup. She was about to go turn a trick. Didn't. know it. And she's like, "Oh, baby, the. guys would love you." Yeah. >> I'll never forget her saying that line. >> And I was like, "What do you mean?" And. she's like, "This and this." And I was. like, "I can't." Like, I didn't even.

fully understand. >> A lot of men have fantasies, la. So I'm. ignorant. >> Sold me out in a good way. >> She turned you out. >> Yeah. She got her 10%. [laughter]. >> We love that. Oh my god. So, I started. the journey of hustling and doing which. I haven't really talked about much. >> I think it's important to know that I'm. so. >> and I'm never ashamed. >> ever. I feel like people think that we. should be ashamed for what we had to do. to survive and I'm never going to. apologize. >> Yeah. Even though I'm at this stage in. my life, [clears throat].

>> I sometimes still wish I could do it. [laughter]. >> It was so Listen, it was so it was a. different time where like if you wanted. to wake up and make x amount of dollars, you could. on what you guys in one day. Let's go. >> Yeah. Or even a sugar daddy. Have a. sugar daddy who just. >> I had a few of I even had ones online. that I never met. >> So people were like, "Okay, you're on. MySpace. How did you People would send. me highowered cameras I didn't know that. existed." And I would teach myself. everything. >> So I was one of the first people to do a. vlog. Me and Paris Hilton were the first. ones to ever.

>> make money off of being a social media. star. Absolutely. >> So I coined internet um an internet. celebrity. >> Absolutely. I remember the. [clears throat] first time I saw you was. MySpace. It was you, Forbidden. >> Oh my god. Rest in peace. >> I know. How sad. >> And Tila Tequila. >> Tila Tequila. Where the. >> I'm the last one standing. >> And normal somewhat. >> That's it. Oh my god. [laughter]. >> You haven't lost your mind. >> This tequila's crazy. >> I know. >> Forbidden. Could never escape not being. a star anymore. And God bless her. Um.

addiction. Alcohol. >> That's literally like in Orange County's. culture. I hate it. >> No. It's so sad because she was such a. beautiful woman. But Tila, I don't know. what the happened. I think she had an. aneurysm and just never got right after. that. Right. >> Isn't. >> I have no idea the stuff that she's. >> the Illuminati, but I'm not sure. >> No, we're not claiming her. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> No, no, no, no, no. We don't know who. that is. She wanted to be a part of the. club, >> right? >> No, thank you. >> A I don't think she made enough money, right? >> No. >> Don't you have to have like a certain. amount of money to get into the. Illuminati? >> I'm not sure. [laughter].

>> I played the fifth. Everybody thinks my. husband and I are in the Illuminati and. I'm like, I'm glad you guys think we. have that much money. like it's not what. it is. >> Yeah, it's interesting. It it Yeah, >> life's very interesting. >> Yeah, definitely. So, >> so I moved to Wyoming and I escaped a. lot of things, >> right? So, let's dial back though. You. had started you had started doing work. >> and how long did you do for did you use. that as like a means to an end while you. were doing social media? >> Okay. >> Exactly. And then like the warp tour.

days really took off and I started. >> your music. Yes. I loved Beauty Killer. >> So, people forget, thank you. Oh my god. That I was obviously a working makeup. artist and then MySpace and social media. really exploded for me and I started to. all of a sudden have like merchandise. and I'm number one in Hot Topic. So, I. stopped obviously doing makeup on. others, right? >> People would hire me back in the day. like, "Oh, will you do my wedding or. like come to my daughter's birthday. party?" Like those days were very fun, >> right? >> But then I started doing music. Yeah. And I did music as a joke. I wrapped on.

this Hollywood Undead song. a very long. >> We love Hollywood. My husband just did a. feature with them. >> Oh, that's awesome. >> They're still around. They're still. kicking ass. That's it. >> Like, love them. >> And the first album. >> I was supposed to be on it and then. there was drama and they took me off, but the song was already online for free. called Turn Off the Lights and it was. massive. I even re-recorded it. >> Innercope Records and whoever at the. time took me off, but the song was. already massive online. Wow. >> And it was just very interesting. >> Isn't it crazy how record labels work?

Like they're just they're shady. Yeah, they're shady as. >> all, but most. >> Not all, but pretty much most of them. are. They're just so shady. Um I feel. like Hollywood Undead always had some. sort of drama going on. They were they. were fighting each other. >> I know. [laughter] It was awful. >> Sorry, guys. I don't mean to talk, but. I'm just saying. >> No, it was just back in the day. Like. they were beefing with each other. Worked it out. >> Yeah, for sure. But let's talk about. your music career. I mean, you had like. Nicki Minaj as a feature and like dude, so cool. >> I worked with a lot of really cool. people. >> Yeah.

>> I did music. I always say like as a. joke, but I actually really enjoyed it. When I did the first rap verse, I. freestyled it and wrote it down in 10. minutes. It was very, very crass and I. was like, >> you started freestyling right now before. the camera started rolling. >> I even put forbidden in my first verse. >> The first Yeah. ever. It was Yeah, it. was that's so funny. The little last. line is I'll watch me eat forbidden. status. >> No, >> that's so but so good. And she loved it, by the way. >> I bet. But it's just like. >> and it was it was crazy. It was vicious. And I was like, I want to be like the.

obscene like white little Kim. >> And that was my shtick. And I penned. some wildest. >> It was actually really good. I loved. what is the song? Um, plastic slumber. party. >> Plastic surgery slumber party. >> Love that was one of my favorite songs. >> And that was very like lowfi fun electro. MySpace music. Like dep mode like. techno. >> Like it was really cool. Yeah. You had. to have been there. It's the best way to. describe it. And for some reason because. of MySpace and I was already popular for. being me and my charact you know who. this character.

>> right. >> it just got big. >> Why don't you pursue music anymore. though cuz you're so good at it and it. seems like it's a passion. >> I've been asked this for every time I do. an interview. >> Really? >> And we have definitely been dabbling for. fun. >> Mhm. >> Dude, my husband will help you. >> It's really you need it. But. >> listen, I. you never know. There may be a little. comeback. >> Yeah, do it, please. I think Tik Tok. needs a Jeffree Star track. It will go.

>> I I even have a new song on my phone. >> Uh, can we get a little snippet. >> later on the bus? >> Okay. [laughter]. >> For fun. >> I But you're so good at it. Like, I. think that's something that you need to. do. And it's also a creative outlet for. you. >> It's really cool. Yeah. >> And now that I'm living this Wyoming. life and I'm older and my voice is less. [ __ ] [laughter]. >> I can say that number one right here. Um, my voice is deeper, right?

>> And I really like my voice. And someone. came over the other day. >> and we did I'm not even kidding. You're. going to die. Beauty killer acoustic. >> What? No. >> Yeah. Yeah. And they're like, "Would you. ever perform this before?". >> Scene kid that grew up with us needs. that, dude. You have no idea. >> So when I open up my retail store, we're. jumping 30 years ahead. >> Yeah. I just for my opening I had Yellow. Wolf perform. >> Yeah, we love Yellow. >> We broke the record of biggest event. ever in Casper for downtown. It beat. even the Eclipse from 2018. >> Yay. >> And we've never been on the moon. But. anyway, um that's for that's for the.

next 10 minutes. >> It was epic. >> I love that. >> So I was like, you know what? Everyone's. you you should go perform a song. And I. was like, oh hell no. But then it. actually kind of inspired me. >> Good. I'm proud of you. >> So you never know what could happen. >> You need to do that. Do stuff that makes. your sets your soul on fire. You know, I. feel like you've done so much now for. not just you, but for everybody else and. to maybe prove points because from all. the trauma that we have come from, we're. always proving a point. And I feel like, >> thank God she knows that. [laughter]. >> I feel like music for you is.

therapeutic. And I also feel like it's. something that you enjoy. >> It is as much as because the makeup. brand took off so big, I was like. >> and I really became engrossed. Yeah. I. went from living in a one-bedroom. apartment with $1,000 to like I want to. be a CEO of my own company and I had to. literally teach myself everything. >> Yeah. But I mean, you did it and look. what happened. So, you're in Let me let. me So, when we left off on just started. music, >> you had just started music. When you. decided to stop music and then when did.

you start getting into makeup? >> Oh, that's a good question. >> Was that like coincided with each other? >> It was So, the music was literally like. a 10year journey, >> right? And I was always independent. until the end. >> You were touring and everything, right? You're hopping on the tour bus tonight. with us. >> Wild. We had tour buses. I was. performing and there was no like real. label behind me. I had an independent. deal through Warner, which means I had. no support and like a distribution deal. >> It was literally a distribution deal. That was it. >> And it was sick. And we had a, you know, we had a cute little number one dance. album and LA. But I never got the.

success that I wanted, >> right? >> I wanted to be like number. Then there's. other people in the industry coming up. at the same time and they chose Evil. Deals, Kesha, Lady Gaga, >> and they even stole from my. >> Oh, baby. And I'm not blaming them. I'm. blaming their stylists on their team. They would go out and they would steal. >> Gaga for sure, >> girl. >> Yeah. Like that's your that's your whole. [ __ ]. >> It was crazy back in the day. I would go.

and I and I saw their first show once. >> and people weren't doing cease and. sister throwing up pink on the on the. screen right before she goes on stage. >> like your serial shot right. >> girl the cover of plastic surgery. slumber party I'm puking pink. >> yeah yeah you have your. >> I go to this woman's show. >> she's throwing up pink on the jumbotron. for her first big tour. >> and there's nothing you can do. >> devastated crying. >> 15 years later I'm reviewing her. concealer we're cool [laughter]. >> love that she Lady Gaga I But it was her. team and later down the road when I.

became uh signed to similar folks, they. all had stories and it was really dark. and it's none of it was her fault. When. you're that big, you have such a team. behind you and you're just going with. >> flow. No say so like literally. Yeah. We. never know. [laughter]. >> But a lot of them chose horrible deals. Um you know people call it selling their. soul. I've always kept my soul. >> and I've been offered a lot. >> I'm looking you in your eyes. You seem. to have a soul. Yeah. Ding, ding, ding. >> It all cracks. [laughter]. >> Yeah. He turns into a reptilian right.

now. >> Oh my god. They wanted me to go full. reptile. I didn't want to. >> Really? >> Yeah. >> How does that even work? How does. somebody come to you and say, "Hey, I. [laughter] want you to be a reptilian.". >> They see the potential that you can do. to shift the culture, >> right? >> And I chose to shift it myself. >> So people actually will come to you and. say, "Hey, I want you to be a. reptilian." What does that entail? >> It's more like will you It's basically. like selling your soul. It's such a. tricky. >> such a tricky thing. like Ursula and the. Little Mermaid like sign on the dotted. line and. >> you have to give more than that.

>> really like a firstborn or like your. left nut or something. >> Listen, if you want that tour bus to not. have the brakes go out tonight. No, I'm. just kidding. No one can hear us. No one. no one knows we're talking about this. But it's [snorts] a tricky slope cuz the. industry is really dark, >> right? >> And there's a lot of people that will. do. >> There's such a dark side and there's. such also a light side. It just depends. on which. >> there is. But thankfully because of. social media and people having the guts, a lot of things are now infiltrated. Harvey Weinstein, Jeffrey Epstein, all. these things are coming out, right?

>> And it's like, thank God. >> Yeah. >> So Hollywood is so scared. >> Yeah. Oh, I bet they're. >> There's no new artists. They're all. pushing the stupid satanic demon. It's. all so dumb. >> What's her name? Do I know it's getting. weird. >> It's just getting boring. >> It's getting uncomfortable to the point. is what it is. >> Yeah. It's just getting uncomfortable to. the point of just like who are what are. you trying to prove? We get it. you. know, like you're. >> it's to make them feed into it like they. really are. >> I know. It's It's so boring. I listen to. the new song for the first time on the.

plane right here and I'm just like. >> this is it, huh? >> Yeah. You're like, "That's it.". >> Verse is kind of cute, but it's like I. just bought a limousine and I'm just. like. >> my IQ is dropping right now. It's just. It's not great. >> She's losing her. >> first album. I even like Paint the Town. Red. I think it's cute. It has a great. beat. Obviously, these producers know. what they're doing. They create a beat. that you're gonna be hooked on and you. can sing it in your head. It's all a. game. You know what I mean? So, I never. played the game with these top. producers. I never I saw how dark the.

industry was and it was like. >> could go here or this way. So, I fired. everyone. I said goodbye to Acon. I said. goodbye to convict music. >> which you were signed to Acon whenever. you were doing your music. >> So, my last few songs it has the iconic. clink convict. Do [clears throat] you. know how cool that was? That very first. time I got to put a track out with. hising intro. It was like, >> I made it. It was insane. Prom night, the crazy single. >> where a little kid's shooting up. everyone at the end. >> Yep. >> Such a forward [laughter] thinker. >> You really are though. You have always.

been No, for sure. For sure. You have. always been ahead of your time. >> Listen, baby. Colin had just happened. I'm like, we're going to tap into this. cuz I also was getting death threats. every day. It was different times. I. would walk out the streets looking like. this. >> [ __ ] I was called the craziest names. Nowadays, people don't talk like that. Right. It's all behind the keyboard. >> Cancelled. So tired of controls and. >> back in the day it was just so. different. [clears throat]. >> 2014 you're already doing MySpace. >> 2014 is when I started the brand,

>> right? So I was going to say your. MySpace was after music or. >> before. >> before. >> and during. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> And then remember MySpace. >> tanked. >> finally started having its run. Facebook's here. Instagram's here. All. these new things are happening. the. population's changing, the last. generation's now into, you know, just. everything's evolving. >> So, it was a very hard time for me. I. let go of the music world, >> right? >> I knew I was never going to be number. one single and and performing in front.

of 20,000 in my head, not knowing what. was going to come later, >> right? >> And I gave it all up. And that was like. the only moment where I. >> almost felt like giving up. not like. full suicide, but it was like. >> I it was like very hopeless, >> right? >> And I was sitting in this apartment that. I did the documentary on, right? Me and. Shane Dawson. >> We even went back to the old apartment. It was so. >> right. >> And. >> it was it was just a moment of like. we're going this way or this way. So. then I just started using the internet,

which is free. You don't need to go to. college. And I taught myself how to make. a product, how to build a brand, and I. just taught myself everything from the. ground up. And there was a makeup. I. mean, I'm in LA. There's makeup labs. everywhere. People want to work with me. But it was at a really weird stage. So, as I quit, I start I went back to the. Warp Tour crowd, right? >> I started selling merchandise and doing. meet and greets with no music anymore. Right. >> Here's a sick merch line. Come meet me. >> Cuz I was broke. >> The tenacity though.

>> I wasing broke. >> Most people don't have the tenacity that. you do to do that to to go and teach. themselves things and to just keep. hustling. That's like something that you. teach people. You should be proud of. yourself. Thank you. Survivor mentality. It was like go like it was do or die. >> Yeah. >> So, I'm on Warp Tour 2013. >> testing out my first ever lipstick. formulas in the heat. >> It was awesome. >> A. >> and I'm concocting my plan and and. thinking about what I'm going to do. And.

I'm like, "Okay, I want to put out three. liquid lipsticks." There's only like. three brands on the market at the time. >> Kylie wasn't around then. >> Nope. Her lips were still normal. >> Yeah. And mine weren't. [laughter]. >> Oh, we had we got into plastic surgery. at a young age because that's where. that's how we grew up. That's how the. West Coast is. >> Exactly. >> Yeah. >> So, I'm on this tour bus. We're doing. meet and greets every day in the hot. sun. Everyone else, you know, they do. their 30 minute set, their little. 10-minute meet and greet, and they all. go try to get wasted. I'm under that hot. tent. Seven hours working,

>> making all the money. >> Yeah. >> Never partying. And once the seven hours. is over, then I go chill, redo my. makeup, then we swallow. [laughter]. >> Line them up. >> Line them up. >> Line them up, baby. >> But, you know, it was just it was such a. crazy time for me. So, I felt very. hopeless. But then I'm ready to start. the brand and launch this. >> I have no investor. >> Acon was gonna own part of my brand.

Shout out to Acon. Amazing musician, right? >> Is he a good human, too? >> He is. But he was going through so much. turmoil in his life with his record. label, playing games and all these. things. He could not be the best manager. for me. >> So, okay, circling back, we you're it's. on Warp Tour. You're doing you're. working your ass off and you're staying. sober this whole time. >> Yeah. So, you never had a problem with. drugs or anything? >> No. >> Wow. >> So, I didn't smoke. So, here's a great I. didn't try weed till I was 23. >> Okay. We're on tour and I'm with Daniel. and the very first time was in Salt Lake.

City at this venue and their their house. the venue owners their house was above. the venue. >> Weird. >> And it was very cool. Shout out to. Jackie. I still remember her. And they. had the volcano bag. >> Mhm. Oh my god. A gravity bong type. thing. >> No, no, no. Like the volcano like the. one that blows. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Not. the bong, but like the bag. >> And it's like pure vapor so it's very. strong. >> for your first time. >> Yes. >> Extreme. And [laughter] obviously people. always ask like why did you want to do. it then? It was like in the moment. I'm. feeling that not that rockstar life but.

like I had made it. I'm on stage. There's a few thousand people there. every night. It was very wild times and. I'm with Daniel. I felt very safe. >> Um and I was like you know what? Let me. just try it for the first time. Like. everyone else is smoking and they're. acting normal. I didn't I didn't like. the wasted gross aggressive emotions. all this. I saw the array of people. really happy, really violent, crying, trauma coming out and I'm like this. >> when you're sober around drunk people. I. just talked about this on a podcast. yesterday. >> People don't get it. It's awful. >> I I tell everybody I'm judging you.

because there's nothing attractive about. a woman spilling all over the place, a. guy in your face just breathing on you. Like I hate it. It's. >> People don't realize that until they're. sober, >> right? >> So. it was it was great times though. It was. amazing. >> Right. So, we're at this weird. trajectory of like, how am I going to. get this brand launched? And then once. the a gravity bag, though. >> Yeah. Oh, the gravity bag. See, I'm. already on the gravity bag today. >> So, we try weed for the first time. So, I take a hit. I'll never forget this. The bag's like big and you take a hit.

>> And I'm like, I literally felt nothing. And a lot of people go, "Well, sometimes. the cannabonoids don't work on your. first time.". >> Yeah. Whatever. >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> So, I didn't know the vapor takes like. maybe 5 to 10 minutes to like kind of. kick in, >> hit you. Yeah. >> So, Mr. Extreme over here, I take like. five more hits. >> and I'm like, "Nothing's happening. This. is so like, wow, I can't believe I took. this long to try to wait and nothing's. happening.". >> It hit me like a train. >> Oh, no. >> In the best way.

>> Oh, good. >> No bad first trip. >> Good. >> I can't stop laughing. >> Oh, >> I'm already a silly. >> Yeah. >> Me and Daniel are on this cheetah print. rug. >> Oh, >> I'm laughing hysterically. in my. underwear. The show's done. I'm all. sweaty. You know what I mean? We're just. up there chilling. Everyone's getting a. drink. La. I cannot stop laughing. The. munchies hit. >> Oh. >> And we're like, "Okay, we're you." We. start saying goodbye. I'm high for. hours. We get into the van to go to the. the hotel, the Lola, the Lola Linta.

>> We're in the van going to the hotel and. I feel like we're on a roller coaster. and we're going 35 miles an hour. >> Yeah. >> I'm laughing. We get to the hotel. I. clean out the vending machine. Oh, >> I have no idea, but I'm so high my brain. blacks out. >> Oh no. >> I wake up, there's chili, Frito bags, funions, Snicker bars. Like, I cleaned out that. And I had an eating fest with Daniel. We. ordered pizza. I don't remember. ordering. And I And I had the best sleep.

of my life. That's what I remember. >> What a great memory of you, too. >> It was beautiful. And I felt so safe. with Daniel. So, >> I love that. I start my journey of. liking weed. >> and I didn't fully really get into it. until I started my brand and I felt. comfortable and now I you know I I've. say I've been high for 10 years but. marijuana has been a really big. >> I don't know I it's so hard to like. claim something is doing something. >> right. >> but it definitely has helped my. creativity.

>> flourish. >> right do you battle with mental illness. still or anything. >> honestly no not really. >> like we all. >> no cutting or anything like that anymore. I was going to say maybe it like eases. that side of. >> you. It does take away full anxiety. Like I don't ever really feel anxious, but I do smoke weed every day. >> Um where it's legal. >> Yeah. >> And let's say my team's like, "Yo, okay, I created a concept." But you need to. name these 35 eyeshadows. >> like now, >> right? >> Puff. it starts coming out. I need like if I. That's why music. Oh my god. When I did.

that first album. >> Mhm. >> I had never really smoked, >> right? >> Beauty killer and all the EP. It was a. way for you to channel your energy and. just throw yourself into something that. you really enjoy. >> Yeah. >> I love that. >> It's really cool. >> So, let's talk about something else that. you enjoy. Makeup. Do you still enjoy. makeup? >> I really do. >> Yeah. >> And skin care now, too. >> Obsessed. How old do we get? I I've. always loved skinare. >> I used to tell people as as young as 15, don't move your face. >> Right. Yeah.

>> Which was always my thing. >> That's why I'm frozen. >> Now, as I get older, I don't care. I. dissolved all my filler and I'm just. kind of living a more free life. But I'm. still me. I'm still star. >> Do you do Botox or anything? >> I have it in two years. >> Wow. It looks amazing though. >> I have to have it. I can't. When I start. getting the wrinkles in the forehead, I. freak out. >> I'm I Yeah, I do have more wrinkles. I'm. not embracing them. Maybe they'll go. away this this winter. >> Great though. >> Thank you. But I'm just doing a little. more like my lips were too crazy, so I. dissolved a lot. And you know when. things start to migrate and all this. >> Marge Simpson I.

>> So I had to. >> Yeah. >> I had to tone it down for me. Like below. my nose was getting weird. >> No, your face is perfect. You look. beautiful. >> So I had to tone it down a notch for me. >> Yeah. That but we always do things for. us, not for anybody else. >> But I always go extreme. >> Yeah, for sure. So you started the. makeup brand in 2014. >> 2014 I launched three liquid lips on. Black Friday. >> And you were looking for an investor. Acon was going to invest but he. couldn't. >> He was out. Next. Let's hit it. My best. friend of 12 years, Kat Von D. She's. down. She shows me a makeup lab and I.

start doing my formula. She literally gives me a sample with a. uh name of the lab. I call it do all the. work. When she tried to destroy my. career online, which flopped and. backfired and she said she did. everything. It was the biggest insult I. think I've ever felt in my entire life. cuz I did everything. >> Yeah. It's always hurtful when a a. friendship breaks up. It's like worse. than a divorce. >> And publicly for the very first time cuz. I had not really done online drama. Then. after that, as bigger as as things got,

oh, it was a blood bath. >> I feel like people just come for you. just to be. >> Yes. At this. >> They used to all the time just to get. attention. But it was my first big. >> taste of the internet flipping. >> without knowing any facts. >> Oh, they don't care. >> And then days later, if I recall, >> they all flipped back and realized it. was all full. >> Yeah, they don't care. >> But it was so hurtful for someone to. say, "I created his brand." And it was. like but it was believable that was the. problem. And now. >> cuz she was a little bit bigger than you. back then. Absolutely. Right. Cuz she. had that or whatever. >> Having more money than me and she liked.

being the friend that had more. So when. I surpassed her, she flipped on me. >> 12 year friendship. She's tattooed my. whole body. 50 portraits. >> Would you guys ever be friends again? >> No. >> You just because of you? >> Because of the way I was treated. I can. never Forgiving is fine when you get. older. You can never go back to someone. that stabbed you that hard. >> Well, you can forgive but not forget. >> Yes. >> Mhm. >> So, it was one of the most painful. things I've gone through. >> Do you think maybe she's grown a lot.

since being a wife? And I'm just playing. devil's advocate. >> Yeah. I honestly have no idea. >> I'm one of those people that now that I'. I've really helped myself. I don't lurk. So, like the old days I would care what. everyone's doing. It's so unhealthy. It. >> gives a need to stop doing that. >> I don't So, I don't read the news. I. don't know what's happening anymore. I. don't care who who what's this who did. this who I just don't care. It's so. unhealthy. >> You just get to a point of just. serenity. >> But when you're in the same world Yes. you're told she has a kid now.

>> That's crazy. Crazy. >> Yeah. >> Insane. That that's insane. And when you. say also like I hate children and then. you have one, anyone's allowed to change. their mind. Obviously, I've grown a lot. It was wild to see someone become a. parent, right? >> So hopefully it makes them nicer. >> I feel like children soften women, too. So, you know, you never know. Never say. never. Maybe you guys will cross paths. somewhere down the road and be able to.

>> But I'm ready to share cuz I have never. really talked about it. And I think I. never got to say my piece because no one. wanted to hear what I had to say at the. time. >> I know. I just hate that for you. I feel. like you're so misunderstood. Not now. I feel like with TikTok, everybody's starting to get to see the. real you or the grown you and I feel. like everybody's loving it and embracing. it. And. >> I was saying misunderstood was the only. time today where I felt like a tinge of. wanting to cry. >> A I love you. I thought you want a hug, let's hug. >> later. Okay, [laughter].

listen. >> But yeah, it's hard when you have. success to say you feel any type of way. because people equate money to you. feeling fine. >> Yeah. >> I don't I didn't I never started the. brand to make money, >> right? It grew insane and then I So. >> you started a brand because you came. from nothing and you had something to. prove. Yes. You didn't want to be a. piece of your whole or you know whatever. people a derogatory name that people. were calling you. I totally understand. I've been a entire life now I'm a. millionaire because I worked my ass off. I can't understand it.

>> Yeah. Like they can't let go of that. past but they want to you know they. don't want to acknowledge what I've done. with my clothes on, you know. So I. totally understand where you're coming. from. >> Let's talk about the brand though. So. you started it in 2014. >> So So Cat was going to be the investor. >> Yes. >> Flips on me. >> We all know that how that ended. >> And isn't it funny? She she doesn't even. have owner brand anymore. It's gone. >> Yeah. >> The irony in the last my brand turns 9. years old this November. Crazy. So. grateful. >> for the journey. >> We So I then in the music industry, I'm.

like, "Okay, I have no investor. I've. already met the lab. The three colors. are done. The formula is better than the. ones on the market. Mhm. >> I have no money. >> So, I'm sitting there in full. hopelessness, but I'm like, I'm still a. hustler. Hello. >> How many dicks do I got to suck? >> That's it. And and shockingly, none to. get the first loan. >> Hey, good for you. Isn't. >> that great? So, I start hitting up. booking agents, people that are in the. industry. >> Do you know anyone that. >> connections that you've made by I know.

all the all the booking agents from the. little punk rock venues to House of. Blues to the arenas. And I'm like, "Okay, I'm going to start networking." I. start calling people. This guy that owns Samaran Records had a. meeting with me and the co-owners of. Samaran Records, Ash and Jeff Cohen, >> invested in me and believed in the. project. >> and all that feel good. >> It was insane to have somebody believe. in you finally clicked of like you you. have the funds to make the dream a. reality. >> and all I needed was 100,000. So, I I.

put everything I had in and they gave me. the last of what I needed. On launch. day, I paid them back in five minutes. >> Wow. >> It was just goose. It was It was. beautiful. >> Cuz it was so like, is anyone going to. care? >> I'm like, I have to do a photo shoot. I. do a photo shoot in a pink coffin. >> Yeah. >> My first brand shoot ever. And my eyes. are open. And I'm like, the liquid. lipstick you've all been dying for, >> coming soon. And that was this journey. on of my of even creating a website.

letting people know. >> where you are. >> and then it was just like you know. releasing colors and then the first. highlighter and then the first lip scrub. and now it's spiraled into this massive. thing. >> and it's just so beautiful and I'm so in. love with makeup and I've changed the. entire industry. >> literally. >> everything I enter even Tik Tok I'm. changing Tik Tok right now I'm taking. the credit [laughter] from doing the. live streams and the live crowd. >> dude we crack up seeing you on live all. the time I'm like. >> you never know what you're getting. >> I'm like Jeffree That's hilarious. No, you're hilarious. >> And then battling like the Tik Tok.

creators and the people that I didn't. know existed and then be becoming part. of the family and then half of them. loving me and you know half them hate. me. I. >> I don't think they hate you. I think. they just hate to love you. >> Yeah. >> I can't believe I joined their platform. and I'm loving it. They Some people are. shook. >> I was so happy when I saw you on there. I was like Jeffreey's on TikTok. I was. like it's about time. >> I know. So, in the pandemic when it was. this whole dancing era, >> hated it. I wouldn't do it either. I was. like, you're not going to catch my. [ __ ]. >> It was the first time where I was like,

wow, I'm not progressing with the. internet culture. >> Mhm. >> But YouTube is still so big. So, >> let's go to I start the brand. >> Mhm. >> I learned what a beauty influencer is. rolling my eyes in the back of my skull. right now. >> I feel like everybody's so catty in that. industry and just. >> I start doing YouTube. >> I upload my first tutorial. Now, remember, I always forget to tell this. to people. No one had seen me. without makeup on before. >> So, my big. >> which I think you're gorgeous without.

makeup on. I love you without makeup on. with makeup. >> And a lot of people do. Thank you for. saying that. But I wasn't ready and I. felt insecure about it. So, >> well, it was your mask. It was. everything. >> Your entire life. >> Exactly. >> You hid behind that. >> Absolutely. >> And now that my trauma was starting to. heal, I wasn't broke anymore. I had tax. evasion. My bank account was frozen. No. one knew any of this. >> and it was really really dark times. I. started IRS is the real gangsters. >> That's it. They love me. [laughter]. >> I bet they do. >> They love me. And it and I it.

transformed my entire life. So as I. started to heal, the big shock was I'm. going to be barefaced on YouTube. >> Yeah. >> And I saw what the other girls are. doing. >> So boring. We all know I everything I. enter. >> I love that you always want to do your. own thing because I'm the same exact. way. I don't want to follow everybody. >> That's it. So, I enter YouTube. I'm the. first person I'm doing a tutorial. I'm. lighting up the bowl. >> They changed the rules. You can't do. that anymore. >> Yeah. >> 2015, 16, 17. Oh my god.

>> And then 18/19 was just obviously. infucking incredible. And my channel. went from 100,000 to 18 million people. and it was just like, how is this real? >> From tutorials to showing everything. about my I call it my marriage, my. five-year marriage, from every surgery. to every mistake is all on my channel. >> Yeah. and I quit last year. >> You shared your life with everybody. I. did. I was so invested in you and Nate's. relationship. That is one thing. It was. beautiful. It was gorgeous to watch. And. thank you. Because I fell in love for. the first time not knowing it was going. to be on camera. Really? Right. >> And it was really cool. I mean, I.

finally felt loved for the first time. >> by another man that didn't want me to be. a secret. >> Mhm. >> And it really helped me heal. So, being. in love in that relationship really. helped me heal. >> What happened with you guys, if you. don't mind me asking? [laughter]. Can we talk about it? Um, there's a lot. of paperwork involved. >> Wow. Really? >> Yep. >> Wow. >> Yep. [laughter]. >> On his part. >> Um, both. >> We Yeah. There. Yep. >> I just went and lurked his Instagram.

last night and he doesn't look like he's. doing well. >> Really? No. >> Oh my god. That's so weird to hear cuz I. don't lurk anymore. Obviously, this was. >> No, I was like, "Where is he?" Cuz I was. writing my questions down. >> Oh my god. This November, I'm four years. single. I mean, no, I've dated people. That's not fair to say. in a deep real. relationship. >> Yeah. Are you are do you think that. maybe you're scared. >> of what? >> Of falling in love again? >> Oh, that's a great question. No. And I I. And I'll get back to that. No, I'm I'm. open now. I'm not afraid. I'm not afraid. at all. I know. [laughter].

>> No, I'm really not like I'm very open to. it. Um haven't met the right person. I've dated some people. >> We've had a good time. LA, but I haven't. met anyone like I felt when I met him. And our souls were like, "Wow, >> twin flames.". >> Yeah. Had no idea. So, I have not felt. that since. our breakup can legally not be. discussed. >> Gotcha. [laughter] I hate that for you, baby. >> I'm so sorry. Everyone that wants to. tea, I know. I know. I I It's not like I.

even want to talk about it. It's just. It's a normal thing. Like, you can. legally talk about your breakups and. whatever. I cannot, which is a different. world we live in. No. >> So, we had a great time. >> Mhm. [laughter]. >> A Does So, there's not one person that. you have met that has like just set your. soul on fire. >> Not since. >> a Yeah. >> You're just. >> That's my vibrator. It's on the bus. [laughter]. >> It's my blood pressure cuff in my purse. When it goes off, people think it's a.

vibrator. >> It's the NDA vibrating in my backpack, [laughter]. >> literally. >> Oh, [ __ ]. >> So, moving on. >> Mhm. So, you lurked. That's so funny. >> Yeah. So, yeah. And what is your. synapsis? >> So, I went Yeah, cuz I was writing on my. interview last night and I was like, where the is Nate? Because that is the. only part of your life that I was ever. invested in. I have not been invested. since. No offense, but I don't get in. the drama and I don't care. Like, I just. love you as a human. >> I love that. Thank you. >> Um, so you did a little lurking for.

>> I did. So, I went on Nate's profile and. he looks and I, you know, this is just. my observation. I'm not saying anything. I don't know anything. Okay. >> He looks like he might be under the. influence of something, not positive, but he just doesn't look mentally okay, >> you know? So, I don't know. I even said. that to Haley earlier today. I was like, he didn't look good. Like, you can look. at you and see that you're glowing and. that you're trying to heal and, you. know, be a better human. And with him, it just kind of looks like he's lost. probably still.

>> That's interesting. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. Do you ever miss him? >> No. >> Okay, [laughter]. moving on. >> I love all the times we had though and a. lot of it, which is funny, is on camera. >> We went to Bora Bora for the first time. together. Like those were so cool. And. obviously there were so many moments off. camera of of love and affection and you. know, we we had little pieces on. YouTube, but it was a beautiful. relationship. It really was.

>> And I had really fell in love with the. first time. >> It served its purpose. >> Yeah. And it did. And it was so it was. really great for me cuz it really did. like I said help me heal. >> And I think it's hard for people if you. haven't really fallen in love what that. feels like cuz I thought it was made up. and then it happened to me. >> He probably helped heal a bunch of. childhood trauma wounds. You know, you. know, growing up in chaotic households. like we grew up in, we search for that. >> puzzle piece that can make us feel like. the, you know, the little kid that we.

were before. So. >> and so cliche, when I stopped looking is. when it hit. Yeah. Hello. I've never. dated a a big guy before and I literally. had sworn off all dudes and then here. comes this fuckish and hees into my. life, dude. And I just love it. >> Souls connect. You cannot explain it. >> at all. Like he just seven years and I. just couldn't imagine life without him. So, it's going to happen for you again. cuz you're a beautiful human and you. deserve to be loved. >> I agree. And I'm I'm open to it. >> Yeah. Well, you guys hear that? Jeffreey's looking. Well, no, Jeffreey's.

not looking. He's open. >> You never know. [laughter] Yeah. But. right now, I'm back in my hoe era. I. think. >> would it be a regular guy or would it. have to be somebody who's on the same. level as you? I would think trying to. date you would be hard. >> It is, but I'm also really busy. So, it's hard to right now want to give. >> a bigger piece of me right now, right? >> I'm obsessed with my ranch. I'm a real. farmer. >> Like, I'm out there in Louis Vuitton. covered in yak. >> I got over 350 yaks. I have four factory. camels. >> I know why you love yaks. I've come to.

the conclusion because I was pulling up. a picture of them the other day. >> The most diva of all cows. >> I was like, "What the is that. terminology?". >> Tell me that's not the scene kid of the. animal kingdom. >> That is a Highland Scottish cow. >> Okay. Well, I thought it was a. >> But they look very similar. They do look. similar. >> Gotcha. I was like, "It's the hair. It's. the emo hair." Like, >> so yaks. Those are called So the yaks. that look like that are called super. woollies. >> Okay. And there's different like hair on. the yak, but they're all really. beautiful. They're like I call them the.

diva of all cows. >> Are they majestic as are. >> I can't wait. I'm so excited. >> I live at the base of a mountain. >> Can I ride one? >> Yeah. Um you can ride a camel. No, no. yaks. Yeah, but you can pet a yak. You. can rub one to the ground. >> They're really cool creatures. >> And are they just so loving? >> Yeah. I heard the coolest uh quote the. other day that said um if you want to. buy land and fill it with animals, it's. because in the time of need that you had. during your trauma, that was what the. only thing that was there for you were.

the animals. And I was like, that's me. cuz I can't wait to dye my hair red, be. a gardener, and be ugly and just so. >> have I don't want to eat horrible food. that we're probably being poisoned with. >> What is your diet? Um, pretty pretty. bad. It's way better now. Yeah. >> So, let me let me drop a shock let me. drop a shocker. [snorts]. [laughter]. >> No fast food really. >> Yeah. >> Obviously, I've had In-N-Out once or. twice a year, but I used to eat and. promote fast food like it was part of my. thing, >> right? >> And I do not I haven't eaten.

[clears throat] fast food in like three. years. >> Yeah. I don't eat fast food either. I. ate In-N-Out when we were in Vegas. Sometimes. >> Sometimes you have to. >> I literally am eating sauerkraut and. ground chicken today to just make my. tummy feel better. >> I love food. And I and I eat a lot of yak now. So. obviously I raise them for pets and. breeding, but now I have a full meat. operation. >> Do you have certain yaks that you love. and they get to live? >> People always go in on me like. Yeah. >> The ones I name and I'm rubbing on on. Instagram obviously are not being. slaughtered for meat. So we have no we. haven't we're not taking snowflake and.

snowstorm to the butcher. >> So we have a whole um meat meat herd. which you'll see. >> um when you come to the ranch. >> and they're just there for food. We're. in six restaurants now. >> Wow. >> It's unreal. But we're in the busiest. steakhouse in all of Wyoming called Fire. Rock. >> I love that. Maybe we'll have to go eat. there. >> Oh yeah. Or we'll cook them at the. house. Whatever you want. >> Yeah, whatever you want to do. >> Yak Steaks. So then of course I opened. up my new store. Make the Jeffree Star. store. >> We're going to go visit that tomorrow. >> And meat. >> Okay. So let's before we get to the. store, you quit YouTube. You left LA.

>> after almost nine years on YouTube. Billions of views. >> Did you just have enough? >> It ran its course. And then the drama. from all my old friends, they ruined. YouTube. I always I'm It's their fault. They really did. Yeah. >> So they the last final harrah was two. ex-friend uploaded a video full of lies. about me and it literally. >> ruined the internet. >> It was at a point where people did not. want drama anymore. It's on CNN, 50. million views, and they're all trying to. flip on me cuz I just keep climbing and.

climbing. So. >> we all kind of And then YouTube itself. kind of broke. >> The beauty industry of YouTube was dead, >> right? We're all getting 30 million. views. No one cares anymore, >> right? >> And it's a new era. >> The monetization on it has changed even. >> Yes. >> But the cool thing is all my old videos. are still there. I get a check every. month from Google. It's like residuals. on music. It's pretty cool. Google. >> So, will I ever upload again? I don't. know. Maybe. I've been asked when I. launch big makeup collections to go back. and swatch them in a 30 minute video.

>> versus this quick Tik Tok like, "How do. you promote a collection with 10 new. items, right, >> with a quick little 30 second?" So, you. never know. >> I think if anybody can figure anything. out, it's you. >> Absolutely. >> If you can make anything your. >> But I was burnt out. >> Yeah. You're tired. >> We're on 20 years of social media. >> Yeah. You just needed a break. Your soul. was tired. >> And then I discovered TikTok in a good. way. >> When you quit YouTube, did you was that. when you moved from LA to Wyoming? Was. it. >> I had already lived in Wyoming. >> Oh, so you had already you were already.

getting ready to just Yep. >> You were going through a change. >> Yes. A big one. >> Yeah. And it was it was a necess it was. necessary. >> Did you leave LA just because of the the. humans that are there? Cuz I tell. everybody like when Leo Ske came on the. podcast, I was like, Leo, don't go to. LA. It's not the same as it used to be. It lost its sparkle. >> It's lost its magic. >> It's really not what it used to be. anymore. And I fell out of love with it. >> Yeah. >> And then it was just getting so dark and. toxic and just so many weird things are.

happening behind the scenes. And a lot. of people did not want me around anymore. because of. >> this moment of like when all the YouTube. drama happened. I was going to expose a. lot of people. And this is a tricky. conversation. Someone else's, let me word this the. right way. I got cocky and thought that I could. expose someone else's trauma and story.

to X out someone else. >> Gotcha. >> That person did not want me to. Therefore, this person is still free. >> Wow. >> And that was very hard to deal with. >> Right. Yeah. >> But it was also selfishly wanting to let. everyone know this person's a piece of. >> Right. And it's like I had to learn. through my journey of healing and. through therapy that was not. appropriate which is I never did it. obviously. >> right. >> but those thoughts were haunting me.

>> but your intention behind it was good. >> Yes. Because so many people were trying. to hurt someone. >> supporting someone who is so awful. >> right. >> It's that misunderstood thing again. >> Yes. So the internet as the roller. coaster my career has been they wanted. me to be the villain I guess that that. year. >> everybody needs a villain. >> and it was crazy. So this person begged. and pleaded me not to share what they. had told me. I obviously respected it. and never did it. >> right. That's still that's shows that.

you're a good human. You know you didn't. do it. >> And to see this person still out there. They're not thriving like they used to. be at all is just interesting. >> But the industry does have demon demonic. snakes. >> Yeah. Absolutely. I'll have to You'll. have to tell me who it is later so I can. steer clear of that human. >> Oh, his name is James Charles. >> Oh, no. Really? Damn it. Do we need to. bleep that? >> No. >> No. >> No. James, you know, you're a biggest He. is the biggest piece of beauty industry. >> Wow. >> And he allegedly has done a lot of. horrible things. He admitted to talking.

to minors. He is aing piece of. >> is true. I see. I always stay out of the. drama. He did a video allegedly, not. allegedly, admitting toers. >> So, I never knew this. Hey, we had a. situation where he used one of my makeup. artists hacks and didn't tag her. So, I. just on my backup account, I have a. backup Tik Tok Tik Tok account. I was. just like, "Hey, James, we love you. We. respect you, but you know, give credit. where credit's due.". >> He wants to be the one that. >> he did, though. >> Oh, okay. >> I was very surprised, right? But what's.

crazy is everybody in the comments. started telling me about the stuff and I. was like, [laughter and gasps] "God, I. didn't know, you know, like I stay out. of it." But. >> one of the most vile human beings on. this planet. >> Lord. >> Yep. >> That's crazy. >> Well, >> honestly, and I have never really talked. or addressed these things, but. >> he is a literal monster. >> Wow. >> And the fact that he's out there and. somehow has a beauty product, I guess, that just came out. People aren't ready. for the truth. Everyone wants to keep.

their mouths shut and they keep Why? >> If someone is bad, let people know. >> Yeah. >> You have A-list celebrities literally. using this. >> All demonic and really dark and all. those people, they stick together. >> Has he ever been charged? >> I don't know. I don't think so. >> Yeah, I think that's probably. >> Will we see it in the future? >> Yes, I'm sure. Well, also the Illuminati. though, not to keep bringing that up, but don't they use people like James. Charles to bleed into other, you know,

because they can easily access minors, >> the children, right? Yeah. >> He is a big problem. >> Wow. >> And I don't speak on him, but they tried. to ruin my career because of all the. information I had. >> Wow. It's really brave of you. Just. >> so I moved away. I stood up to all of. them. Said, >> "Yeah.". >> And I left that little LA County. and they're so controlled mentally by. it. It's really sad. So, >> and you're free. >> Yes.

>> You're literally free. >> But it's shocking, honestly. It really. is. And I never speak about this. People. ask me about the. >> I don't dwell. I don't really think. about them, but when you start, you. know, you're interviewing me. We're. talking about the literal past. >> No, I appreciate the honesty. >> And it's like, I'm always going to keep. it real. >> Need to know. It's not fair. where you. could be saving another child, you know, like. >> that part. >> Yeah. >> But they don't take people are not. taking it as serious anymore. >> Or like new people discover someone and. they're like, "Eh, whatever.". >> Well, hopefully they will after hearing. you speak on it because somebody such as.

yourself who's been in the industry for. so long who has street cred. Yes. Literally, you know, to be able to stand. up to somebody as powerful as him, because he is a powerful dude. >> Yeah. >> And say that, you know, maybe people. will start listening now. >> That's scary. It makes me sick just like. thinking about his name. >> So sorry. >> But I've learned that it's not. >> I don't need to expose anyone. I don't. need to do any of that. It's all going. to play out how it's supposed to be. >> Yeah. It always comes to life. Sun in. the dark always comes to life.

>> And he is pure evil. Let me just leave. it at that. >> All right. Moving on to more beautiful. things. Casper, take me take We're going. to go see this. >> Beauty drama exploded. I don't know. Wyoming's coming, but I'm. like, I'm just so over living here. And. I also had an ego death. >> I love that you know when to tap out. Yes. >> A lot of people don't know when to do. that. >> And you know about ego deaths. >> Uh yeah. Haley just had one on the PJ. last night. She took a. >> really. >> she took a edible and thought she was.

looking. >> No, but I'm talking about like when you. your real ego like diminishes. >> Oh yeah. No, I've been through I went. through a really uh bad domestic. violence relationship where I almost. died a couple times. that will humble. you and literally make you. >> take the shell of the human that you. were off and become a different human. Yes, for sure. >> I'm playing this in my book like. December 19, I'm single for the first. time in five years. >> I move into the one of the biggest.

houses in LA. The big one of the biggest. mansions in Hidden Hills. >> Yeah, it was a big remember seeing it. online. >> Single 25,000 square feet. >> Pandemic. >> lonely. pandemic starts. >> We had so much fun. We filmed so much. content. But I had a realization sitting. in this massive home surrounded by all. these things that it didn't make me. happy. >> Yeah. Material doesn't make you happy. >> No. But I didn't know that cuz I didn't. have time to really think until. >> you were working towards the goal.

>> Yes. >> So, I don't know I want to leave. California permanently. I just know I. want to be away. I want to be in quiet. I want to actually go heal and not. pretend and talk about it like all my. ex-friend. And we I've been to Wyoming. so many times. I've been on tour, right, for years. We passed through here. Oh my. god. Stunning. >> So I'm looking around. Jackson Hole is. very famous. A lot of celebrities live. there. Big mansions. No land. I'm like. going to LA. >> Yeah. >> We discover Casper. It's a small town. 60,000 people. A hardworking town.

>> People are nice. >> Country boys everywhere. >> Yep. Oil field workers, farmers. >> There are some really hot field workers. I see him on TikTok. [laughter] I'm. like, damn. >> Hot UPS workers, baby. Listen. >> So, we we fly there a few times. We love. it. Everyone's really nice. Instead of. like LA, well, what do you do for a. living? You know how they look you up. and down? How can I use you? It's how. are you? I was like, >> and they genuinely want to hear you say, >> y'all really want to know how I'm doing.

>> I had to train myself to like not. >> That's how it was when I moved to. Nashville. >> The guard had to come down a little. >> Fell in love with it. I find a property. that has a bunch of land for sale around. it. End of the road. No neighbors. really. Silence. Don't know I'm going to become a farmer. and own one yak. >> Farmer Jeff. >> Farmer Jeff's [laughter] in the. building. And all of a sudden I have all. this land and I'm like, "Oh, okay." I. had seen yaks on tour in Switzerland. >> 2010. >> We're in Geneva. We're going through in.

the little tour bus. >> Yaks on the hillside. Could you have. ever imagined in 2010 that you would own. a farm? Just that chance encounter with. them. >> I Google are they legaline cow? I don't. know this though because they're I've. only seen them in other countries. >> I Google it. There's even a yak farm in. >> I buy my first three. >> Oh, >> you know I can't leave it alone and just. have them be my pets. >> Right [laughter]. >> now we're surprised they're not in the. house with you. >> Sometimes they are in the kitchen. Yeah. The little ones that are trained,

they'll come in and out. >> They're really cute. The dogs love them. >> I'm going to cry. >> That is I need that. I'm going to go. tell my husband right now. We need land. >> And there are yaks in Tennessee even. though it's humid there in the summer. and I don't really recommend it. My. friend does have a yak ranch out there. >> My husband actually I told him last. night about your land in uh Casper and. he was like, dude, let's look for some. land. I was like, I'll ask him if he. knows anybody that's selling stuff. We're ready. We're trying to get a farm. >> in peace and quiet. There's nothing like. it. >> Yeah. So, what does.

>> And now we're here. >> What does Jeffrey do next? >> Do you just pick up your feet and just. relax? Like, does the little boy in you? >> Yeah. >> Is he ever going to be proud? >> I'm really proud now. >> Good. >> I am running year nine of the brand, two. years into skincare. >> I'm raising Tibetiacs and camels. >> I mean, come on. >> And the farm life is so fulfilling. So, last year for six months, I didn't. travel except twice to do photo shoots. Everyone came to me, Jay saw snow for. the first time. We did a photo shoot in.

10 degree weather. >> I love your team, by the way. Her team. is his team is here and they're just. amazing. >> And we're in the snow, 10 inches of. snow, shooting the Wyoming winter. campaign. Like, we've done so many cool. things. So, I didn't travel for 6. months. I got to really become a. rancher. >> Yeah. >> And it's me and a few guys. We do it all. ourselves. >> You get out there. >> all the time. I love it. >> Oh, I love it. >> It's like my my big pet project. I'm. obsessed with it. >> I love this for you. So now we're just. growing it more restaurants. We open. So. we just opened up the store,

>> right, >> which Yellow have performed at iconic. >> meat and makeup. Like what a crazy. concept. >> Isn't it cool? And a lot of people were. a little shock. Oh, baby. >> Yeah. >> I'm going to call my store one of the. busiest retail stores in Wyoming. history. >> Wow. >> And September. >> And you're there working it. I see you. online. Just. >> Oh my god. September 14th, two-month. anniversary. >> A. >> It's a zoo every day, a line out the. door. And then I started to like make up. a funny concept. Celebrity works the. register. It's my own store. I I'm very.

hands-on with everything I do. >> So I'm like, you know what? I'm going to. go live and I'm going to just help the. customers out and like ring them up. Let's just see how it goes. I'm on a. six-hour stream. It's crazy. >> Insane. >> And me and Tik Tok are good friends now. We've just worked on a really big deal. together. >> Yeah. Can we talk about it? >> We're working on it. I'm I'm going to do. some announcements soon. >> Good. But they are very happy that I. joined. >> Uh duh. >> One of one of the highest viewed. streamers ever, which is crazy.

>> Um. >> it's not crazy. >> And you guys seen the battles, right? And you've seen people go live how you. can send the gifts. >> The boy is always on there. >> So the. >> I can't stand that dude. >> He's He's a piece of [ __ ] also. >> There's They try to battle me and I'm. like, "No.". >> Yeah. No, they're just not great. So. there's it's all very addicting and it's. very fun and we're working on some big. Jeffree Star moments. >> Yay. >> Which is so cool to be and I'm the OG of. social media for the newest hottest.

platform 20 years later to be like Yes, sir. >> You reinvent yourself. You're like the. Madonna of social media. Padonna's kind. of like literally you are you literally. reinvent yourself and you always know. how to stay you know a breast of. everything and just. >> he's relevant. >> always always relevant baby wild. >> I love that for you and I love that this. this journey that you're on I love this. Jeffrey right here just you seem so. >> I'm actually proud of myself so it's so.

cool that you said that because I never. really talk about that I'm very grateful. I'm very humbled. >> and I wake up every day like it's my. last and I just go hard. >> I love But. >> I think if I'm given this opportunity, I. can't be lazy one day out of my life. >> No. So, do you ever think you're going. to be able to rest. >> currently? No. >> You're a restless spirit like me. I. don't It's like I always have, no matter. how proud of myself I am, it's like, okay, what can I do next? Like, I have. to stay busy. >> Yes. >> No, I get that. I totally understand. that. >> And there's so many more dicks to. conquer. [laughter].

>> And there's. >> We didn't even get into the. >> Isn't that nice? >> Isn't that nice? Finally, someone had me. on their [laughter] podcast and it. wasn't about my deep throat. It wasn't. about all the band guys and all the. athletes. >> No, I don't like that stuff doesn't. >> It's so We've already done it all, especially from our past. >> Yeah, it doesn't. >> It's fun off camera. Maybe I'll show her. a picture, too. >> Yeah, I would like that. >> Maybe I'll show her a few A-listers. >> We can We can We can compare notes. >> Yeah, >> for sure. But I just feel like there's. so much more to you than the dicks you. said. >> Thank you. And that is fun. I like. >> mogul, dude. Like, you can pick any.

world and suck it. You know what I'm. saying? you have the choice. >> Does the audience know that we've maybe. slept with one or two of the same. people? >> Um, well, no, but they do now. [laughter]. >> I never go into I never discuss about. who I sleep with. So, Jeffrey, except. for that one time when MJ came on my. podcast. >> Yes. And that Okay. So, the reason, not. the reason, but it accelerated our. friendship is I wake up one day. Oh, it. accelerated. [laughter] I wake up one. day and I'm on TikTok and I'm just.

starting my journey and I'm like why am. I getting tagged in this thing about. >> and I'm like typical. Then I'm it's you. and your friend and we're and it was. just hilarious and I was tagged in the. clip. >> So MJ MJ Fresh came on the podcast and I. get a FaceTime. I'm on the phone with. her and I'm like this is a Wyoming. number. Do you think it's Jeffrey? And. she's like no answer it. And I'm like no. I'm not answering it because I don't. know who it is. you know, calls three. more times and I'm like. >> I'm the only Wyoming number she's. [laughter].

one area code for the whole state. >> 307. >> So I texted and I'm like you called and. he's like this is your new bestie. Jeffrey and I was like holy. He's like. so I heard that I'm long story short. Jeffrey actually one of my ex's. and hooked up with MJ Fresh's ex. So that [laughter]. that's how it had gotten brought up and. we were just like shout out Jeffrey. What if I He's a player, you know. >> So, can I ask a question? >> Yeah, of course. >> How did she or you know?

>> So, >> that's all I wanted to ask. >> No. No. So, my ex. um told me. >> Yeah, he we I'm very Yeah. He was like. Jeffree and I was like, "How was it he?". I'm very tall and he's built like he's. got a little baby arm. >> Oh my god. [laughter]. >> Oh my god. I'm deceased. >> Yes. So he told me very long. Yeah. Yes. So he told me and I was like, "Dude, how. was it?" He was like, "It was the best.". >> So I have a photographic memory. Last. name.

>> Yes. Yep. Absolutely. That's crazy that. you know that. She said the tall one. The blonde. The blonde tall blonde. Um. Yeah. So when that when she when he told. >> I'm deceased when he. >> Well, shout out to him for telling you. >> and he said it was the best ever. forgotten and I was like too amazing. I. need some lessons obviously. [laughter]. Why do you think I flew in to do this? >> Yeah. >> I love you. I do have a question for you. though about one hookup. >> Well, right now he can fix it on camera.

It's fine. >> Yeah, that's fine. I don't care. >> Oh my god. Can I have a sip? Can we. share? >> Of course. >> I'm clean. >> No, you're fine. So, >> if a guy is flying out, he's getting. 24-hour testing with the results to my. email. >> Yeah. Is that Do you meet people? >> Not that many people. I sound like every. day. No. >> No. >> Have I met some people? Yes. Yes. Every. other day. You have to be very you. [laughter] have to be guarded. Have you. guys ever hooked up? >> No. >> But he he's seen. >> the same goen. >> Oh, so so besides Can I say this or no?

So besides doing wigs, Jay also does um. >> he's a star. >> I love that. >> Come Kevin, come on. >> Like take with you. I said well this is. for talent but I'll bring you in. I love that. >> because I'm like, where where can I go. in? Because I started to get more famous. as the makeup brands popped in. >> Yeah. >> And I'm like, I don't want to go to this. men's free clinic anymore. People are. going to think, oh, he has something, so. he's getting people [laughter] make up.

the craziest. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Like, no, I just want to make sure I'm. safe and clean. >> Yeah. >> So, I was like, damn Jay, I don't want. to go to this place anymore. People are. going to like take a, you know, cuz. you're in the lobby. Someone goes like. this, girl. Oh my lord. And then they. You can have the rest of it. You're. fine. >> Thank you. So. >> they literally people will say something. and it's like word is bond. Like they. they don't have to have any proof. It. just spreads like wildfire and does that. [ __ ] every day. I'm. >> so Jay hooked me up and you know. >> but I have been on the like I've been. sleeping and he's like right next to me.

doing it. >> So you guys are you guys like BFFs? >> Yeah. Like obviously people can turn. that into something. So it's like you. know I'm in a very very strong. >> click. We've all been friends for years. >> Yeah. So I was like, "Hey, >> I love that. >> Thank you, Kevin.". >> Of Well, look, I don't go any these two. are my shadow and Mimi. Like when you. find your your squad that you trust. >> We've had other employee like people. have tried to fight us. They they've ran. and I'm in I'm literally. >> I wouldn't try to fight you guys. >> looking like this. And I'm like, I have.

his back [laughter] always. >> I want to see Jeffrey mad running in. full glam. >> Swinging. >> Yeah, I would pay for that. >> Swinging, [laughter] baby. time like a. fan wanted to take a photo but Jeffrey. was having a conversation. >> and you know people have sometimes no. boundaries no respect. >> at all was belligerent drunk and um I. don't tolerate no disrespect. >> but god forbid a public figure or. somebody. u. acts on their feelings and.

>> they get bashed for it right because. they don't see the other side oh. absolutely there's always two sides you. just one second let me finish this. converation station. some type of way into [snorts] a drink. >> I haven't had a drink thrown on me. I'm. talking. >> and this was like a year ago. >> I'm talking [laughter]. the marijuana's hitting. I'm talking 10. years. We're in Casper, Wyoming. She don't have. She can't get her photo right now. She. throws a Red Bull can. It splashes my. shoulder and it and it gets on him.

>> It gets more me. >> Game over. [laughter]. >> Let's just say game over. >> It's a rat. It's a rap. >> I just I don't understand how people. feel so entitled to somebody's time and. body. Yes. >> It's just crazy. >> But I'm also so nice. I love taking. pictures. Look how sickening I look. I. want to take a photo with you. I don't. want to hide in the dark. >> Yeah, for sure. >> I'm Hey, I'm just having a People don't. care. Yeah. >> A lot of females also try to uh think. that they can get away with attacking. guys, too. >> Yeah, that's crazy. >> Baby, I don't care who it is. >> If you don't start none, won't be none.

>> That's it. You know what I'm saying? >> We're not We're not about the. disrespect, but most people are. obviously really great. They are. >> No, there. And we do this because of you. guys, you know, like without you guys, there is no us. So, >> all right. So, I'm going to ask you some. questions. We're going to end this on. the hot seat, y'all. >> Dude, we've been talking for an hour. >> These meet and greets about to start. It. goes by so quick. >> It's crazy, right? >> What's What's it's not tripping me out, but it's really cool and and amazing. when I meet someone and it's like I've. known you for a long time. >> You know, some people I've always I've.

been interviewed a lot. You've been. interviewed a lot and so has your. husband. And you know sometimes or a lot. of the time the vi or it's the same. question like girl you don't have. anything else to say. >> and I feel like I've known you for a. long time. I love your energy. >> Yeah. Me too. I love your energy. I. think that's the biggest compliment that. you could ever give a human is loving. their energy. >> And I've always felt drawn to you and I. watched those three podcasts because I. really have not kept up with you. And. when I got done watching them I told my. girls I was like he is me literally like. we're like the same type of human. >> Isn't it funny? So, she has watched me.

do a few podcasts and then been on them. >> Mhm. >> It's Don't you find it weird sometimes. how some how people act on camera with. me versus with other people? >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I I brought that up to. you before the show. I was like, you. know, maybe they're not straight, but. we're not going to say names on. >> Can I get a. >> Yes. Exactly. All right. So, [laughter]. this is called the hot seat. I'm going. to ask you a couple probably like six. questions. >> I'm ovulating. You have to answer them. as fast as you can. Okay. All right.

Mary. Kanye West. >> Okay. Mary. >> Yep. Kanye West. Jelly Roll. Drake. >> Oh, THIS. [laughter]. UM. >> I know. Oh, listen. >> Listen. I listen. Inquiring minds want. to know. I feel like Drake swings the. other way. So, we're gonna marry Drake. roll and head Kanye West with a.

guillotine. [laughter]. >> Okay. Gotcha. >> And all my life I have never slept with. that man. We've been in the same room. I've of his friends. I've some of his. homies. >> Yeah. >> I don't like short dudes. >> Yeah. >> That it's like guys that wear eyeliner. >> Yeah. >> I I'm not into short kings. You're not a. king if you're shortm. >> cuz you. >> I love tall guys, too. >> So, yeah. My average is like a nice 6'4. and up, right? >> Tallest I've been with 61. >> because you're 6'1, right? And you wear.

heels. >> Mr. 610, call me, you know. >> Hey, I mean, >> he's overseas playing basketball right. now. >> I was going to say that's got to be hard. to find a 610er. >> What's the on that look like? [laughter]. >> Oh my goodness. >> Literally. >> Oh, it's giving medium rare. It's. getting thick. It's giving pictures. Okay, I'm giving stats over here. What's the dirty What's the dirtiest. thing you searched on your phone last? >> I'm going to be a disappointment. >> Okay. >> I don't really search dirty things.

>> Right. >> Um I'm I'm someone that's really into. POV. I love when people film me on my. phone. >> Another man has never filmed me on their. phone. >> Um but my Google searches. >> That's amazing that you've never let. another man film you. >> Hell no. And when they come over, your. phone's in the car. >> Wow. Do you make them sign NDAs? Absolutely. See, people get [laughter]. mad at me for making real. You have to. you have to protect yourself, dude. >> And you also know when you've been doing. this for a long time as ex prostitutes, you know someone's energy. >> Absolutely. >> Whether they a band groupy, a normal.

girl on the street, or a escort, you. know, if someone's trying to be fishy. Yeah. >> And you don't think we're going to know. if someone's trying to play, >> but even if they're not trying to be. fishy at that time, once they don't have. your time or your attention, then they. get. >> Wow. >> Like that's how people are. >> That's a big statement. It's so What's. the worst thing you've ever sent to the. wrong person? >> We airdrop people on planes just around. all the time. We We like screenshot.

when something is near something I have. But thank god it was with a friend, >> right? >> Of like here's a winner in my mouth, [laughter]. >> right? >> Like that could ruin my not to me it. wouldn't ruin my career. People would. actually like that. >> Yeah. >> But like you want to see a picture that. Jay took? >> Sure. I would love to. This is on a. little private jet moment. >> I'm like, I would love to. >> Yeah. And obviously I'm like, hey, would. you know, do are you down to take a. photo? Cuz there's there's weird artists. like there's the R. Kelly side and then. there's like your your friends and you. all have fun side. Okay. >> Yeah. >> We're in the very fun side of life. When.

we're in the private jet and the sky is. just blinging. It just looks stunning. >> Whose wiener is that? Good [laughter]. lord. All I saw was. >> I see the body it was attached to. Yes, >> that is a huge wiener. >> Isn't that cute? >> Goodness. >> Yes, it's very cute. >> It's beautiful, right? But I love and. I'm really into like a nice 12. >> That is huge. >> Yeah. >> Do you take that? >> So, my maximum of deep throating and.

I'll admit this on Bunny's show. >> is a 12 in. After that, I can't take. anymore. >> I mean, that's 12 in is a lot. >> Do you take that? >> Oh, this folder is banging. All right, let's finish these questions. >> Oh my god, look at these Fendy glasses. >> [ __ ]. >> Good lord. >> That is beautiful. That was a beautiful. penis. >> That was a different penis, right? >> Oh, way different. >> Okay. I was like, that one's gorgeous. I. need to see who that's attached to. later. >> Okay. I'm I'm literally getting he's.

climped over here. >> Who's not doing merch right now? [laughter]. >> Jack. Jack from Sleeping with Sirens. He's over here. Never hooked up with him. either, but a lot of his friends. We. were trying to put. >> He's too short. >> We were trying to put bets on Alex or. Jack. I was like. >> neither. On God. Neither. Yeah. Too. short. We'll bleep it out. >> They're both too short. >> Yeah. >> No, you don't have to bleep it out cuz I. didn't. >> He said too short. What's the grossest. thing that comes out of your that has. came out of your body? [laughter].

>> Huh? I'm usually really quick. [laughter]. >> I stumped Jeffrey. >> Huh? >> Jay's like, I know. [laughter]. I'm like I know cuz I'm like I'm very. like I'm so like I never sweat. I never. smell. I'm so like a cleanly person. >> Like going out is like I got hair. transplant surgery. So seeing my So. seeing my skin I know this isn't the. answer people want but seeing the skin. removed while you're awake and then. having it cuz you're giving yourself an. organ transplant. >> and then seeing it move to the front was.

crazy. >> Was that painful? >> Yeah. [ __ ] yeah it was. And worth every. penny. >> Worth every penny. My husband wants that. and I'm like baby that's. >> my doctor's the best in America. Okay. Oh, he's out here. >> Yeah. It takes like two or three weeks. to heal. So, when he's on the next album. >> or doing something not on tour, amazing. time to do it. >> All right. I'll talk to him about it. >> Yes. >> All right. [laughter]. >> We got you hooked up, daddy. >> Oh my god. We got you, baby. Dr. Zaring, we love you. >> All right. Would you rather make out. with a dude who choose tobacco or go. down on a girl on her period?

>> Girl on her period. >> His face. I said the same thing because. they could keep a tampon in. You know. what I'm saying? >> Period. >> Exactly. And then I just the. >> Wyoming and all the chew disgusting. >> Yeah, chew is gross. Or how they stick. bottles. >> I don't want to make out with you with. that tar in your gums. I'm not doing it. I'm not doing it. I don't with dudes. Cigarettes. Uhuh. Then your [ __ ] tastes. weird. Absolutely not. >> No. Yuck. Tangy. Tangy [ __ ] [laughter]. >> So gross. What's your favorite song. right now? >> Sexy red and suki hood rats.

>> He loves sexy red. >> I'm obsessed with. >> literally. >> hip-hop. And then I'm I'm I don't even. know this person. Oh my god, the penis. is still on my phone. Jesus, that was. big. Oh my god. >> No, it was a big. >> Oh my god. The other angle. >> No, it's crazy. >> That was like a 10 and a half. >> I love how happy you look with a mouth, though. >> Like you literally like it's. >> it's my [laughter] happy place. >> Jay is over here shaking his head right. now. >> I'm going to shout out a new a newer. [laughter] country artist, Josh.

Mallaloy. >> Yeah, >> credible. No, no, no. Not yet. Uh, he has a song. called Met the Devil in Oklahoma. >> Okay. I haven't heard that on the bus. >> It's cool. And I love country. I just. don't do the tobacco, y'all. >> No. >> So, if you want to face and use me as a. basketball, no tobacco. >> Listen. And I'll tell you right now, the. pictures I just saw, I've never seen a. happier human with a dick in their. mouth. Really? >> Like, you're just lit up like a. Christmas tree. >> Yeah. Besides the like doing makeup,

that's my happy place. >> I love it. I love it. And I love you. So, I appreciate you coming on the. podcast, Jeffrey. >> I'm so glad my knees transplants healed. before I came here. [laughter]. >> On a real level, you guys, Bunny is a. [ __ ] queen. She's a mogul. She's an. entrepreneur. And I have so much respect. for you and thank you for having me on. your show, baby. >> Thanks for that. I appreciate you so. much. >> Thank you. >> You want to shout out your socials? I'm. sure everybody knows where you're you're. at. >> Listen, jeffreear.com. Jeffree Star on. literally everything. >> I know Only Fans. >> I'm so easy. Only Fans offered me a lot. of money.

>> Almost did it. Started doing all that. type of stuff. didn't take the deal. Didn't need the money, but it was also. very exciting, but it's just not time. >> Not yet. >> So, in the future, I don't honestly know. >> like you did with TikTok. >> I don't have the desire to right now. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> Is there a tutorial coming of me at the. 12 in? I think that would be hot. >> I think somebody We need that tutorial. cuz I was told by an ex that he was the. best head he ever had. And I'm pretty I. like to pride. I can't believe that cuz. it's a Listen, this dude has a arm is.

what I call it. It's like a. >> condas have nothing on me. >> Crazy. [laughter]. >> It's going to be a long trip back to. Wyoming. Do we have cucumbers on the. bus? >> All right, y'all. Dislocating jaws since. 1985. >> Thank you guys for tuning in to another. episode of Done Blonde. I will see you. guys next week. Bye.