Dog The Bounty Hunter | Dumb Blonde Podcast

[Applause]. [Music]. Is this thing on? Thank you guys for. tuning in to another episode of Dog the. Bounty Hunter. Today, I have a complete. icon sitting in front of me. Somebody. who I grew up watching, who just makes. my Y2K heart beat. Dog the Bounty Hunter is here along with. his wife, Francie Chapman. Thank you guys so much.

for being here. Thank you for having us. I'm so excited. So, just to elaborate on. what you were just talking about, um you. were adopted and your. dad that. >> My my birth mom, who she told me was my. my birth father was. uh I found out from Ancestry was is not. my birth father and it was somebody. completely different. Uh I found out. because a guy that was on there messaged.

me and said, "I think I'm your brother.". And so, um we are siblings and so who I. thought my birth father was is not. It's. someone completely different. Luckily, I. I didn't meet my birth dad. That would. have been really awkward, but um so, we're meeting tonight for the first time. in Nashville. So, I'm excited. We've. been talking on the phone. He's such a. great guy. Aw. >> And so, he lives in Indiana and they're.

coming to town and so, we're going to. have dinner with them tonight. That is. so sweet. How does How does that make. you feel? Well, she you know, she just lost her. grandson. >> Mhm. And she has another son, so she has. no you know, I have how many kids? 13? >> 13. 27? >> researched. 13. >> 27 or 28 now. Wow. >> Grandkids or great grandkids. >> Wow. That's a legacy. >> Yes. Amen. Hallelujah. >> Yeah. >> And uh.

she Yeah, she. uh you know, it's sad because grandson. passed. >> Yeah. And uh this helps her a little. bit, you know, especially right now. through the holidays and all that. Uh my. son Greg's uh wife. this would have been the year that we we. share boy, I call him Anthony Mhm. with. Greg and he'd stay with us in Georgia. and then go back, you know, cuz this is. the longest break they get in school. >> Right. Uh so, it's rough on Francie.

right now. So, any positive. thing that we can do or you know, gets. her going and. you know, uh That's so sweet. I love. you. >> you know, the Bible says, as you know, that death is the last enemy that shall. be whipped. >> Mhm. And we all have to face it and we. all have to go through. You know, we've lost a lot of people in. our family. Yeah. I lost my firstborn. daughter in a car wreck in in Alaska. Yes. And of course, Beth, my mom, my dad, my. grandpa, all my great grannies. You. know, I just.

>> That's what I've noticed just by. researching you is like for every high. that you have had in your life, there is. always a low that kind of like I don't. want to say overshadows it, but kind of. like shadows all the brightness in your. life. Well, that there was one reason, okay? And. but we'll tell you how we met. Excuse me, but I never would have. married a rancher. You know, I. was straight out of Hollywood. >> in my little black book, either. Whatever. You know what? Me and my. husband are not each other's types,

either, and we've been together a. decade, so yeah, it happens that way. >> It does. I at the beginning, I was like, "Okay, God, what are you doing to me here? I've. never been with anybody with blonde hair. long blonde hair.". Dog has charisma, though. >> I did I did I did. I did. >> Yes, he is. >> Yeah. Thank you. Thank you both. >> You're welcome. >> Now, I'll get all big-headed. Is my. Is my face red? But yeah, she's amazing. I But what I.

was going to say is. I said, "Will you marry me?" like quick. And she said, "As long as you serve uh. I'm going to cry." She said, "As long as. you serve the Lord your God with all. your heart.". And when I started doing that. just while back, about. >> Love you. 4 months ago. And well, I really dedicated though, like 90 days ago. And that was it. I'm. sick of the devil's ass. Can you say ass? >> We're all sick of the devil's ass. And.

so, uh He's robbed us of so much. >> Yeah. So, the closer you get and walk in. faith and all that, all that is real. I. mean, it's absolutely real. Yes. So, we're we're not going to face none of. that cocky anymore. Like I said, you. can't we can't we know. uh the Bible says man is. you know, that's our obligation is to. someday pass away or it says die. And so, uh. we but that don't mean you have to die. sad and you know, stuff like that. So,

we're not going to be like we. ever have been. >> We're living every day. to the absolute fullest until until we. go home. That's it. >> Yeah. You You guys are Now that I know. that you're also very open about your. faith, but Dog, you have always been so. open about your faith. Where Where was. the moment that you felt that God was. like undeniably real in your life? Well, I was raised a Assembly of God. uh. a Pentecostal and I'll die a. Pentecostal. I was raised Southern.

Pentecostal. >> Oh, were you? >> We're crazy. >> Yeah, we are. Not the snake guys, right? No, yeah, yeah, yeah. I told her that. once and she said she was Pentecostal. I. go, "Not the snake one." She goes, "What?" I go, "Never mind.". >> Yeah, no, no, no. I didn't know what. that was. Never mind, rancher. Aw. So, uh yeah, I've always let that I was the. first one on television to say "Prayers. in Jesus' name. Amen.". >> Mhm. And Nancy Dubuc said, "I don't. know. We have a lot of different. religions that watch this you know,

A&E." Well, back then it they just had. biography, you know. And so, she said, "I'll let you try it. in the first few shows.". So, we the the head. uh person uh Victoria Gotti. Hello, Victoria. Aloha. Yeah. Was I'm sure she. watches you, too. But she's uh God, Victoria, come on the podcast, please. Yeah, she will. Yeah, she is. I've had. all the mob wives on the podcast, so I. love that. >> well, I went out to her house, saw her. dad's old Cadillac and Aw. still sitting. there. Yeah.

>> Yeah. But uh so, she was the leader. and then we beat her, so Nancy Dubuc. brought me to the A&E headquarters. and said, "Listen, I don't care what. name you use, Buddha, whatever, but this. Jesus uh something going on with him. You just beat all records of anybody.". And the next day, Victoria Gotti was. knocking on the hotel room door at the. Hilton in New York. "Open the door right. now." And I thought, "Oh, no.". >> She's such a G. >> Yeah. Oh, yeah. She's fierce. Yes. >> Yes.

So, yeah, it's uh. uh and she you know, and she said, "How. did you do it?" And I said, "Jesus. Jesus.". I'm going to give you your last wish. right now. White boy, I still I'm half Apache. I'm. not all the way white. You're not the. Taino. I said, "No, I'm not.". So, yeah. I love listening to you talk. about all that. I'm so proud of you all. the time. Yes, I love you so much. We. have waters here for you. Please. Um. you've walked with like the darkest of.

darkest in people. You've seen so much. darkness yourself. Is there any moment that you've seen. something so dark that has made you. question your faith? Uh. I have uh abandoned God. and wound up in jail for murder that I. didn't do. Mhm. We're going to get there. cuz I called that in the beginning. >> of what I said. Yeah. So, God has never. ever abandoned me. Mhm. I don't care. what I've done, what I've done a lot a.

lot of sinning. I've done more sinning than average. Hells Angel. Mhm. Cuz I rode a Devil. Disciples, which was a sister club to. the Hells Angels. So, and he never ever. abandoned me. And he's you know, for. someone to die for me. uh. and you know, give his life, you know, I. could at least believe in him and love. him and ask him for things. Oh, it's good water. Oh, it's the best. Yes.

See that, honey? So, uh yeah, I think faith in both of us. has a lot to do. And you know, uh. I probably been higher than any angel on. dope there is. I mean, on dope I That didn't come out right. Sorry, Lord. >> I got I got what you're saying, though. We got that one. We had one angel, Lord, that's all doped up. Can you believe a. third of the angels went with that. prick? Sorry. That's all right. A third.

of that's a lot. Yeah, that is a lot. And I bet they're regretting their their. decisions now. Yeah. Oh, yeah. I bet. they are. >> is a persuasive mofo. >> Oh, yeah. I mean, look at what look what. he's done on the earth, you know, so. >> Yeah. >> Well, let's So, let's go back to your. calling because I want to that's what. I'm I'm calling your uh the whole. beginning of your life because all of us. I feel like have a purpose and we have a. calling and what happened in the. beginning of our life shaped us to put. us on the path to our calling. So, I've. heard you talk very openly about how you. grew up in the Assembly of God and that. you played the tambourine and stuff like.

that. But behind even the faith, you. grew up in a pretty abusive household. Can we talk about your relationship with. your father and how that kind of shaped. you as a child? Well, you know, my dad. bleeding believed in sparing the rod, spoiling the child. And it wasn't you. know, like he So, I'd have to pull my. pants down, even my underwear in front. of my two sisters and he made this. blackboard thing and he would wail on.

me. And he didn't hit me in the in the. buttocks, he hit me in the back of the. thighs. I was 52 years old in Hawaii, I. got a sunburn and I got in the car and. it like that and I pulled over started. bawling because I mean it hurt and and I. would beg him. I was a number one Kirby. guy in America and a lot of my salesman. friends says. say cuz I would say dad wait wait wait. only one time did he not. You know, I'll do this I'll do that. I'll do this. Then I cried. I get beat. for screaming. Then I didn't cry. I got.

beat for not crying. So it wasn't till I was 60 something. or 7 No, 68. No, you were in your early. 60s. Right before my my sister passed. away. She's younger than me. And she called me and said your dad our. dad is not your dad. Your dad is some. Indian. on the reservation mom used to take you. to. Oh, no. And my mom used to say, you. know, I have a son that that just found. us me.

and he was his mom was 15 and I was 15. when we made him, right? We did a DNA. and he's my son. So my mom said uh. I don't go into that but my mom said you. can get pregnant with just one time. accidentally. I go mom, what if you're. drunk or something? She goes even if. you're drunk. So my mom and her mom got into a big. fight on her 18th birthday. and she went out and got drunk and had. sex with this guy. and he had a grant.

She went to Colorado School of Mines. and for a nurse, you know, she never. finished that. Paul just told me the. other day. And he had a free grant because Native. American, right? And so that's my father. but at the very last me and my dad. started getting along. We went bounty. hunting together. I made him a bondsman. in Colorado. This was your technically. your stepfather who you thought was your. dad, okay. And I got a call right before. I met Francy and this lady. an elderly lady of the cloth, my mom.

would say to say. uh Navajo called me and said I've saw a. couple things you know, that you talked. on. Do you want to meet your dad? He's. 85 years old and I said ma'am. I had a I had a dad his name was Wesley. Dwayne Chapman and you tell my. biological father. that I hope he believes in Jesus and. I'll see him in heaven. And the. Chiricahua was the only. Native American tribe. There's even. other Apaches that didn't believe in.

Jesus but Geronimo and all them believed. in Jesus and Geronimo. uh. prophesied his you know, his death. riding the white the iron horse to the. reservation and all that. So. you know, and they hunted they look like. the the Chiricahua was the ones that you. see that'll wear horns and they can. sneak right up to deer and I started. thinking about the wonder I look like. this and I used to be able to sneak. right up and make a drug deal with. people.

Not no more though. They see me now they. go and start running. Oh, he must be. wanted. He said one guy uh That's why. that's part of why you hunt people so. well. Yes, we were in Florida. >> your nature, yeah. at the Kimes house. and I went up to. get gas that day and the guy had a black. van. and I pulled up right and I went into uh. buy cigarettes or something, right? And. the guy was like. What's that guy running for? I go I. don't know. He goes I bet that van is. hot. And so about a couple days ago a.

couple days after he goes, we never did. catch that guy but he that was a stolen. van. Soon as he seen you, he took off. Aw. And I've had people we always buy. high. I drive her truck high big truck. a diesel and I look you know, I'll look. down like that and they'll look up. they'll put their seatbelt on real quick. and you know, go like this. Oh, no, right? So. I mean I'm very proud to be. who I am and proud to uh. I tell her all the time she shouldn't. tell me that and I say honey, I love you.

so much. She goes I love you too. I go. thank you Francy. Aw, you guys are the. cutest. >> She's so particular and I'll put one. thing over there. like that little. guy in the middle. I'll put it on the. end because I think it looks better, right? And I'll come back in. and it's switched back to where it was. >> Everything has a I love that you're so. on it though that you're like you can. see what he does and you just quietly. move it. Yeah, everything has a has a. place. >> And she does it now when I uh.

when I'm either asleep or not paying any. attention and then I come back in and. I'm like Samson, my dog did you see. mommy move that? You should have told. daddy. Aw, I love that. >> But So going back cuz that was a lot to. unpack in that statement that you that. you had said was okay, so you found out. that your stepfather who was being. abusive to you actually wasn't your. father and that you had the opportunity. to meet your dad, your real biological. father and you said you turned that. down.

>> Yes. Most people would never do that. What was behind that decision? Love. Aw. He never got to see the show Dog the. Bounty Hunter. Mhm. But in Colorado, I. was I. arrested the Capitol. 10 women at the Capitol area. Anybody that came available, I arrested. And my dad got to see that I changed my. life. Him or my mother never got to see. the show Dog the Bounty Hunter. Wow. And.

but you know, in heaven they are because. I know that my dad made it too and I. know that once in a while the Bible says. that they can look down and see us. So once in a while God will my mom's. name was Barbara. is Barbara and he'll go Barbara on the. speaker of Barbara self or I don't dream. look down at your son quick quick hurry. up before he backslides. And she gets to see. you know, and and Anthony gets to see me. ma, you.

You know. Well, so from. that situation that you grew up in, you. ended up leaving home and that sent you. on a path to joining the Devil's. Disciples, correct? And like you were. about 15 when that happened? >> 14 when I ran away, yes. >> Right. And you quit school in seventh. grade. >> Yes. Take me on this journey of leaving. home at such a young age and you know, finding people to protect you because it. essentially joining a bike gang is. you're looking for some sort of.

protection or something to belong to. Well, I was in the sixth grade and you. know, back in the second, third, fourth. grade you could shower with guys. Mhm. And so I wouldn't shower. I dropped out. of recess. I mean out of uh. uh sports. I love sports, still do, right? Especially football. And. uh. So they all said. >> want to change you didn't want to. Your legs were black and blue. Yes. And. so the kids were. >> didn't want to have to change in front. of anybody. The kids were teasing me.

So. uh. you know, I went to Mr. Sipes. I'll. never forget his name and you know, pulled my pants down and showed him. And he said you sit right there. I said. whatever you do you can't tell my dad. Lo and behold my dad came in there his. teeth and all looking at me all crazy, right? And I'm like oh man. So I sat. right there Mr. Sipes wrote me up. So. then my dad beat me when I got home. So. then. uh three or four a year later maybe. uh I had a I was 14 and a half. I had.

enough of it. I had this big Bowie. knife, right? That we I'd used for hunting and so. uh my dad my mom came in and she's like. Wes, you know, stop. He's getting too. old to be beat like that and she he. pushed her. So I backed into the closet. I told him. listen. blah blah blah blah blah and I'll gut. you like a pig if you ever touch mom. And so he threw all my stuff from the. bedroom out the window and I went to. live with my grandpa. And then I went to Phoenix, Arizona a.

couple times. Got in with the brothers there and then. became. a full-fledged Devil's Disciple. Mhm. So yes. >> Well, and that that started because. you liked. like Bunny said, you you had liked. the fact that the brothers all rode. together. They had this And they could. protect you. They had this connection. that couldn't be broken. Yes. And then. my dad and my mom they had a camper a.

small well, not small Mitchell camper. and uh. I said you want to come to Arizona to. meet the brothers and I thought yeah, they're going to knock him out, right? So. we did a barbecue out in the. clubhouse area, right? And so I saw them. all. I was sat with my mom in the camper. and I go. my mom's like look at your dad. He's. just laughing away. I said yeah, till. they get to know him they're going to. beat him up. And so I went to the president and. That's what you wanted. Yeah, and I went. to the president named Who Dat and he. goes, man I wish I'd had a dad that.

cool. I'm like oh my god. So you're like if you only knew. Yeah, it backfired on me and I wasn't going to. tell them them brothers, you know, he. beat me all black and blue but yeah. >> Right. Well, and your sister and I have. had some of those conversations. Your mom protected you so much because. of what happened. and she. she got pregnant and your dad was. willing to to marry her but he also.

resented you for it and he was an angry. guy. Yeah, he was a what do you call it? Drunk uh. Well, he was also a boxer in the Navy, right? Yeah, and he taught me how to. box. I mean to be punching on a child. when you're a professional boxer. But he would box with me take the the. hose and put it around like a ring and I. he'd say come on, come on." Right so pop. out like clip him a couple times and. bam. And so I was like, "Man." And my. mom say, "Don't do that.".

You know, don't. call Mike Tyson a punk in his face. You. know what I mean? >> Right. >> Cuz when I hit him like that, he'd get. mad and hurt me. Right. >> he put me under karate where I got a. black belt in karate. So I can, you. know, still. you know, I can't beat Fancy up, but I. can beat. anybody up. >> Well, she's a rancher. I don't think. you'd be able to. No, I would never. I'm just kidding. >> I love to. So moving on, can you tell. >> Bring it on. Can you tell us the story.

about how you got your name Dog? Cuz I. thought this was actually really cool. So when we I still do it all the time. Every time before we eat as bikers, I. would say, you know, "All right, everybody let's say the blessing." And. we all didn't hold hands in a circle, but uh. they go, "Okay." Cuz some of the stuff. they ate, man, one guy told me one time. I think it was Pete the disciple said, "Why you always praying?" I go, "You. want to eat that without praying? How. long you think that's been dead? Is it. still dead?".

Cuz they'll eat raw like not cooked, seared on one side as you know, I mean. like in your mouth bloody kind. Oh, I. can't do that. >> no. I can't do it. I can't do it. I. can't do it. I can't do it. >> my president. they he gives you the names. So I was a. prospect. I didn't want to prospect for. no 6 months. So they he one day I heard, you know, they pulled up. I thought, "Uh-oh.". It was in Arizona. And uh. he he came to the door. It's never. locked for press.

And so he comes in he sits down. He. goes, "So. you don't want to prospect for 6. months." I go, "No.". Cuz they caught me partying with the. Hells Angels, right? At the Jimmy. Hendrix. and Janis Joplin concert, right? And she. was almost a Hells Angel herself. They. loved her. And so. uh. the president said, "Well. >> was? Yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Wow. >> first album you'll see a Hells Angel. signa insignia. And back then still.

today, if you ain't a Hells Angel, you. better not say you were ever cuz they're. you know, they're. they're still the number one bike gang. in America and abroad. Yes. So he said, "Well, why?" I said, "Cuz.". He goes, "Well, you're over there with. the Hells Angels." I go, "Yeah, you know. the guy's name?". And I go so the Hells Angel told my. president said, "Listen, that little guy. we were all sitting there smoke with. these hippies and drinking wine, you know, at the concert yay like in a. church Pentecostal praising the Lord. We.

weren't the Lord we was praising, right? >> Really? Well, I was thinking the other day, you. know, you stand you sitting in a concert. 4 or 5 hours. to hear five songs, but you can't sit in. church for two. Right. That's true. >> So anyway, he said, "I'm going to nickname you Dog cuz I. know I'm man's best friend. And he said, "You can fight." And I told. him about my dad. And he said, "Well, I'm going to name. you Dog cuz you're always saying prayers.

and you are man's best friend best. friend. And the sergeant of arms it just. went to the joint for murder. So I'm. going to see what you do with the. sergeant of arms. So he told little Pat. the vice president go out there on the. bike get his. get his colors on on Pat's bike and he. kind of. And so he said, "I hereby call you Dog. because that's God spelled backwards.". And so little Pat said, "Okay, puppy.". And my president said, "Don't call him. that.". And I he said, "You might want to call. him a mutt. But don't And I had fake ID. If they'd.

ever found out I wasn't 18, they would have never found me. You know. what I mean? So. >> Wow. Yep. I've seen things that, you know, only in prison you see. No, your. testimony is insane. As I was. researching it last night. So for the. new listeners at home who aren't. familiar with you and didn't have the. privilege of being able to grow up with. you, can we touch base on the arrest of. where you kind of found God and changed. your life? You got arrested for.

it was first degree. first degree murder conviction in Texas. Well, I'd already, you know, been close. to God, okay? >> Yeah. But one night my brother. >> away. >> Right. One night my brother-in-law sits. up and I drive my chopper drunk. And my pager went off kept going off so. I called him. I go, "What's up?" He was. my best man at my first wedding. And he was a convict, too, but he's the. he's still I talk to him what at once. twice a week. He's 85 going on 86 and. he's a great guy. And I told him, "Screw.

God and screw you." What a long life. though. Oh, yeah. >> 86 to live to 86. What a privilege. Yeah, he went to prison for robbery. grocery store. And One of his guys got. his friends got killed by a cop. Aw. And. then he's been. he's been a prison chaplain. for a long time. And now he's 85. He's. got the greatest stories. Yeah, and he. just told me the other day he said where. he had a street gang.

And he goes, "This is why when I heard. you join them." And I go, "What was it. the name of it?" And he goes, "You're never going to believe it." And. I go, "What was it, Dave?" "Devil's. Disciples.". So it all comes around. I'm like, "Oh.". >> So uh. What was I We're talking about what. landed you in prison for the first time? >> So I was in Pampa. We were just I quit. doing felonies when Dwayne Lee, my first. that I knew of first son was born. Mhm.

Which it said you got married at 16. No, 17. 17. >> to Lafonda. Okay, got you. But I lived. with the girl at 15. Yes. >> Got you. Okay. And so but legally. married I was. 18. You were in Pampa. >> in Pampa and I didn't do felonies cuz. Dwayne Lee I promised God I won't do. felonies, but I supervised them. So I brought brought the president. >> God. I brought the president of the. Hades Hounds from Colorado, Ray Ray, to Pampa and I told him, "Man, people.

just walk across the street here with. bags of money in their hand going across. the street to deposit it." Yeah. >> You know, I robbed Well, back then they. weren't banks. They were savings and. loans and you know, I was a I stick them. up, you know. Right. I robbed places. with shotguns and stuff. Yeah. And so uh. They called me up and said, "Do you want. to buy pot?" And I said, "Yeah, we need. some." Well, the only pot there was this. pimp named Jerry Oliver. who was my good friend cuz I wasn't.

raised in the South. You know, I didn't. know nothing about that how racist they. were really were. So my brother and his. Donny [ __ ] Ruben Garza, Cheryl Ann Fish. Fisher picked me up with some other guy. in the car. And I had my coyote caller Well, I. didn't have that cuz I could sound like. a rabbit. And my .308 rifle. And we've done it before so we're going. to do it at night, right? This time. usually in the day. And we have big. bright lights we could see them, right?

And so they said, "We're going to get. >> all that. You skipped over all that. What's that? >> That you guys were going coyote hunting. Oh, well, we were. Yeah. So then on the. way there this guy said, "We're going to. rob. >> Slow down. So on the way. I love it. Jim Carrey when he goes backwards like. in the nut house. So I just thought he probably has told. the story so many times that it's easy. to just brush over things, you know. >> I'm sorry. No, you're good. The guy said. they're going to rob Jerry. I said I.

threw that guy out of the car. And then Donny was saying, "Try this." I. said, "The guy knows me. He's my. friend." And he bought. this big sack had all bunch of booze in. it so I ripped it on purpose. So I told him, "You go." He goes, "I go. I'll go in and get the the dope." "No, I'll go in, man. I'll go in." Okay, go. So I had this shotgun that was the one. thing that I had sold it for 35 bucks to. the guy I threw out of the car. And I said, "Donny, go up there.". >> happening in this car. >> Yes. I said, "Donny, you go ahead and go up.

there, but don't get nasty with this. guy. He's I'm sure he's got weapons. He's a convict. Been in prison twice for. pimping and pandering.". And so and he looked like. he wore like different colored suits and. cool I thought, "Man, he looks so cool.". I saw him walking down the street in. Pampa one day these two girls on both. sides of him. And I told him, "Man, what do you do?". He goes, "I'm a pimp." I go, "Oh, I was. a pimp, too, right? I was a Devil's Disciple.

And I'm going to start a new pimp. organization. So we. I used to park my Harley on his front. lawn when I bought buy pot or just go. see him. And leave it running and the. nightcrawlers would crawl up for go. fishing, right? He he'd say, "You coming. over?" And he'd wet his grass and leave. that hog running. I said, "All right.". So we were good friends. Aw. And so all. of a sudden Donny goes up to the door. We're all sitting there. All of a sudden. we hear a loud boom. And I say a lot of times that shotgun. blast was so loud and it changed my life.

forever and ever. Amen. He came running out and the bottom of. the shotgun wasn't put on right. So it. split his hand up. So I said, "Get him. in the hospital." I thought Donny had. shot him in the arm or hand. And on the. way there he said, "I hit him in the. shoulder." I go, "What?" I pulled his. long hair back. I go, "You did what?". "I hit him in the shoulder." I go, "With. what?" "The shotgun you sold so-and-so.". I go, "Where's it at?". Uh.

"It's right here." And he pulls it out. of his jacket. And it wasn't still smoking I don't. think, but in my mind I think there was. a little smoke coming out of it, you. know, a little spooky like genie in a. bottle stuff. So I said, "You guys take. him to the hospital." I went home and. told my first wife Lafonda what had. happened, the truth, and we had Princess phones when it hung. up, 911 listened to everything. And so I went over there, they asked him. was uh. Brother Love was there, he just died.

last year. This this. uh. cop. and uh he was my good friend, too. And I'll go back to that in a minute. So, I said uh take him to the hospital. So, I went over there, they said was it who. was it? He said Devil's Disciples he was. talking. And they said was it Dog here? And he. goes, "No, it's his brothers.". So, in the morning that I'll never. forget the radio uh Duane Chapman, Donnie Fisher did it I being sought for.

the shotgun slaying massacre of Jerry. Oliver last night in Pampa, Texas. And so we all went to jail, $50,000 bond. till we seen a real judge, 500 5,000. dollar bonds. My grandpa was the only. one that had money, came down and uh. bonded me out, stayed out for a year, but got the best lawyer there, I sold my. chopper, everything, and they found all. four of us guilty. Well, my uh former.

wife was sneaking me pills through the. jail. I put a little thing out, she give. me these downers. Mhm. And so I was. really high when I went to sentencing. And uh Judge Granger Macelhaney said, "I'm going to hereby sentence you to 5. years." I thought, uh. "5 years for murder in Texas? I thought. it was 99." I didn't say that. And he. said, "So, uh hereby release you of hard. labor." He said, "uh". I didn't understand what that meant. >> Right. So, I kind of laughed cuz I was.

so high and I go, "Your honor, I could hold a hold a snuff can over a. bear's ass for 5 years." He goes, "Oh, is that right, Minnie Mouse?". And I go, "My nickname's Dog, don't you. forget it." He goes, "Here's something. you won't forget. I hereby resentence. you to 5 years and 1 day in the Texas. Department of Correction with the. hardest labor they got for you." Oh my. god. >> And so everybody waited 6 months or so. to go, I was there in 30 days.

Then when I became the story about me. being in prison, I got to say the. prayers, I was known as Dog. I became. warden's barber, I was the most spoiled. guy in prison. You could not hold a razor. >> surprise me. I had a barber shop where. they came, the guards. >> out and into everything. >> a horseshoe up his ass. That's what I. say about my my husband. I'm like, you. have nothing up your old colon. Well, you know what I'm saying, but I always. tell my husband, I'm like, you have a. horseshoe up your He could talk his way.

out of a paper bag. >> Yes. I if he gets pulled over, he gets. let go. I get pulled over, they want me. to go turn myself in and give them a. mugshot, you know? Yeah, like I I don't. have that kind of luck. What. in the world possessed you to say that. to that judge in that moment? Was it. just because you were high? >> high. I was flabbergasted that it was only a. nickel, 5 years. You know, I never heard of no 5 years. for murder in Texas. It's still the. biggest state that executes everybody or. you get 99 years, that's it. There's no.

parole. Yeah. So, anyway, uh work my way up, 60 got first time I. came up for parole, not, right? Second. time, you know, I thought, "God, I'll never. get this." Right? So, the head warden, my reputation grew of all the farms, right? He's the best barber there ever. is. So, warden uh Jacka came to visit me. So, he said, "Why you just did it the. law had just changed. I was convicted in. '76.

And the law had just changed in '70 from. '69 it was, where if you walked in and. your wife was doing a guy, you could. legally shoot him." There was some law. Make my day law. >> Yeah. That's in Colorado, though. Would you do. that to me, make my day? >> Oh, hell yes. Not a girl. Not a girl. And so uh she said, "I don't need a man, I'll be a free I'll go to prison preach. the gospel." Oh, yes. I have told you.

that before. >> of you. Listen, you have to be a. You have to be a little scared of who. you're married to. My husband will tell. you the same thing, and I'm a little. scared of him, too. So, it it keeps it. healthy. Yes. So, uh I told him the story I just told. you. >> Mhm. And so that night I went, you know, he just was like listening, right? Looking at me all wardenish. And so that night the goon squad came to. my cell, said, "You're under arrest.". They read you rights. I go, "For what?" "Lying to the warden, you got a problem. You're going to get.

kicked out of. being a barber, everything." And so cuz. they just made a law after I was a. barber that any inmate that has a sharp. weapon cannot work around guards. I use. a straight edge, the male boss next door. to me. >> if you were convicted of murder No, if. you have if your if your crime involved. a weapon. Oh, gotcha. Okay. So, you're. not allowed to use any. >> warden said that the warden goes, "Dog,

that don't mean you.". Warden Horton or Curly Horton was his. name. So, anyway, back to the head warden, so. I get arrested, next day you go to. court, I walk in, lieutenant uh. warden. boss Iron Horn, a bunch of them sitting. up there, right? And I'm like, and when I got to the the thing, they. uncuffed me, you know, unshackled me and. all that. And I'm like, uh-oh, what are. they going to do? So, I go in there. and he said warden said, "Now, you told. me the story in the barber chair. I.

happen to know Roof Jordan, the. sheriff's dad. And I called Roof Jordan and by God, boy, you told me the truth, the whole. truth, and. maybe quite not nothing but the truth, but. I can't believe that Judge Granger. Macelhaney gave you 5 years and a day.". I didn't say cuz I told him about a. snuff can, right? Cuz I'm not sure how I'd have got out. So, he said, "I know your birthday's. February 2nd." And he said, "I wish I. could have done it February the.

the 6th.". And he said, "This year, 1979. of the great Lord of something in the. great state of Texas. I can And they. still can. Any warden can override what. a judge sentences you to, right? Nowadays they call it good time. But. back then, a warden could change the. whole thing. I never knew that. >> Yes. I didn't know that, either. Well, you watch TV, don't you? When a. warden changes, the guy's a good guy. I've never I've never heard that.

>> So, well, it's on TV, doesn't mean it's. true. At least back then, '76 and '79. So, uh. he said, "February the 6th, 1979, boy, you're the hell out of here." And the. sheriff said that you couldn't join the. army cuz they say they take women and. children before they took me. You can't do nothing, but you're a damn. good guy. And he said, "I want you to go out there. dogging. I want you to be something. All. these damn inmates, they love you. They.

just love you." And I became a bounty. hunter in prison. You know, a guy ran, I seen him, my big. friend, I tackled him down, and all of a. sudden lieutenant threw down the. handcuffs and said the magic words, "Hook him up, bounty hunter.". And my favorite shows was Guys Bounty. Hunter. Yeah. >> Wanted Dead or Alive was my favorite. show of still today. So, the inspiration. for bounty hunting. >> from watching TV when I was a child. And so uh. the I got out,

I went straight to Texas wouldn't accept. me, went straight in, ordered my handcuffs out of a. >> You went to Denver. Denver. Ordered my. handcuff My mom said, "What are you. going to do?" I said, "I got to have a. badge.". So, I had a couple dumb badges that I. ordered one from a comic book. I'm Well, that's my next question is how somebody. who has been in prison, how were you. able to do bounty hunting back then? Were the laws different? Because I know. that sometimes people who are we Were. you a felon? Mhm, yeah. Felons weren't.

allowed to do bounty hunting legally, were they? No. Well, back then, yes, because when I started. >> in 1980 '81, really '79, Right. they. there were no laws, there were no bounty. hunters. >> Right. Right. Okay. >> Alpha Thorne was the only bounty hunter, and he just he did he did it like he. wrote bail and caught his own guys, right? Put one guy spent the night at his. house. I arrested over 10,000. And so I. just went by the law Abraham Lincoln. wrote. So, I got out, went to the post.

office, got the number one most wanted. in Colorado, scammed this guy, got him, called my mom, we took him to the. uh 13th or 14th floor of the federal. building in Denver, and I used a big. diaper pin to pin the warrant right on. his chest. I went in and told this lady, I go, "Hi, this is 10,000. What's your. name?" I go, "My name's Dog the Bounty. Hunter, here's my badge.". And I had. >> so freaked out. I love I love this part. of the story, though, because they were. so freaked out that you showed up at.

their building with a guy with a diaper. pin and his wanted poster. >> right by with me, right? And saying, "I. just arrested one of your top 10. I want. my $10,000.". >> goes, "Is this you?" I go, "Ma'am, excuse me, don't you have to go to. college to be a fed?". "Well, I'm the receptionist." I go, "Well, go get a couple real feds. You. see his face? See that? See his name? Is. that you?" "Yes." So, these two, you.

know, men in black came walking out, right? And they said, "What now?" So, I. explained them the law that, you know, blah blah blah, citizen's right to. arrest, whatever. Mhm. And so uh I said, "I need my 10 grand. They go, "Come back. Monday." I go, "Oh, no, no, no, no. You guys are all broke. You know, Nixon. resigned and he uh-uh.". Listen, my mom said, "It'll be okay. We'll come back Monday." Came back. Monday. They wrote me a check with this. carbon thing and said. >> you took your mom. Yeah, I know. I know. He took your mom.

>> Mom's a gangster though. Yeah, his mom. is a boy. He was a mommy's boy. For. sure. >> was your protector and you wanted to. protect her also, you know, so that. makes. >> mothers that are praying for their kids. out there, just keep praying. Keep. praying. Yes. Absolutely. So, I went I'm. sorry. So. >> Uh so then all of a sudden the FBI. called me. Keith Paul said, "Meet me at. White Spot." He goes, "What are you. doing?". I go, "Bounty hunter, man. Where's your. badge?" I showed him and I didn't even. know what it meant. So, I took it to a. police supply store to have my name and.

my and the cop goes. "Hi, Officer Chapman." He goes, I go, "Hi, I'm Officer Chapman. How you. doing?" Cuz then you could have long. hair and tats, right? Mark goes. "Good. How are you?" I go, "Good. You. know, I don't know I got this badge and. they didn't put my number on it." He. goes "Well, I got a thing right back. here they can etch it on." He goes, "What's your number anyway?" And I'm. like. Oh my god, right? Cuz impersonating a. police officer is still a felony in. Colorado. >> Right. So, I. >> It's everywhere. So, I'm like.

and I've told the Lord, "You're the one. that told me to be a bounty hunter. Now. I've been out of jail a year and going. right back into cell 11. Oh, no.". And so, I go, "271097.". He wrote it down right, goes in the. back. I'm thinking, "Oh, he's going to. call SWAT." He runs my record. Murder. conviction, just got out. Oh my god. Goes back, he goes, "Here you go, Officer Chapman." That's my prison. number. And still today that's on my. badge. >> Aw. I was just about to ask, where did you. pull that number from?

Cuz that's they you know, they Well, they didn't forget my name. Yeah. >> You know, you became a number, but it's. I'll never forget that number. So, he said, "Listen, there's bail. bondsman. You know what that is?" I go, "Yeah.". And so, I went to this guy named Lucky. Lucero's and it was on. Mhm. And I. started arresting everybody. >> jumps, right? And then I met Tony. Robbins and Martin Sheen and Tony. Robbins. >> Yes. Martin Sheen said, "You need to do. the Osbournes." I did two of their. shows. Mhm. Sharon loved me. Ozzy, I.

loved him. >> Yeah, we loved them. And Jack they wrote. the Dog the Bounty Hunter song. >> And so, it just went from there. I got. the TV show, but never ever ever. did I mean as a Christian, we got to. fight. But not like Jesus did. Right. You know, we can win and keep on winning, okay? I don't know about in 10 years or so, but I hope I'm in heaven or we're all. raptured by then. >> say that. Well, I'll go with you. I need.

20. I'll go with you. >> more years. >> You told me 15 5 years ago. No, I told. you you had to give me 20. >> of likes you. Just a little bit. I need. some extra time. >> Okay. And we have a lot of stuff to do. still. >> Lord that. You turned a mistake into a mission. When did you realize that the world. needed a man like you? I don't think he ever realized that. He. still doesn't. He. I know you need to speak into that, but.

it amazes me because I didn't know who. he was when I met him and then it there. was COVID and and everything was shut. down and so. it was just us. And so, when the world. opened back up and I started going. places with him and. I started to see how how people just. loved him. From all walks of life love him. And how Cuz I love them too.

He loves people. Genuinely in his heart. he loves people. That's how my husband. is too. It's so beautiful to watch a man. move like that. And he knows what he. came out of and he wants everybody to. have the chance that he had. >> Well, I was in Texas prison and the. N-word was used even they called me that. inner dog. Mhm. And I never heard I. heard grown men, big men at night. screaming, "Mommy, Mommy, help me, Mommy." And I was like, god, they they.

treated them so bad. You ever could you. ever get a cigarette? Never. And I said, "Lord, I'll do this for you." And every single. person that I catch, whether I didn't. know the backseat, sometimes I put them. right next to me. Learned from experience. And uh. I said I'll tell everyone about Jesus. And in the beginning I would say about. uh you know, this this guy was burglary. of a residence.

First time it was really his. girlfriend's house he broke in to get. her stuff. I go, "They're going to drop. it down." I go, and I told him my story. And I go, "You know that guy is. is really famous today.". And so, as. the cops said, "Here, doggy." They. couldn't Colorado couldn't find the guy. I had him two, three days. And so, I put him in the cell and I. like that and they were and I go. "I'm sorry, man.". You know, I wanted to put you in, but I. didn't know that I could be the one to.

turn the key. He goes, "Listen, dog.". Really deep voice he goes, "That story. was you, wasn't it?". And I go, "Yeah." He goes. "Well, hell. You pray for me right now?" So, I told. the guard, "Can I pray?" So, he put his. hands on the bars and I lit up heaven, right? I don't ever know whatever. happened to that guy, but. uh. I was my purpose, you know, to go after. the not the rich and the famous, but to.

pull and hers to pulls the doomed sa the. doomed souls out of the pit of hell. Yeah. That's my calling. Mhm. You know, it's not in a church and. even though I we go to a great church in. uh. where we live in in uh. Georgia, but we uh We're called to pull. people from the gates of hell. Yes. Wow. And we're going to keep doing it till. we go to heaven. >> So, we go home. That was poetic, actually. When I when I.

heard that it was just it just like. moves you to hear somebody say that, you. know. Um most people never see the. weight of being the protector. What do. you feel that that responsibility has. cost you in life? Because you are such a. protector of everybody around you. Well, I'd have been dead if I wouldn't have. hid behind a lot of I'd have been dead. if I wouldn't have hid behind a lot of. them. Mhm. No. I was like, okay. She's like, okay. I. said, "Mhm.". You know, uh.

one time my son Leland was afraid to go. in a door. And the guy got out the back, by the. way. And so, he hesitated. He goes to me And. "What if there's they there's a bunch of. cartel in there?". Cuz we looked in the window, machine. guns on the ground and everything, right? I go, "Son, you remember that. story in the Bible. where the servant came to Joshua and. said, 'Hey, man. These guys are going to kill us. They're. giants.'. And Joshua bowed his head and said, 'Lord, show my servant.

what is there.' And round about the camp. the servant saw angels with big swords.". And it was like. I go, "Leland, we got us an angel. So, right now let's. say the sinner's prayer, Lord, forgive. me for all my sins. Into your arms I may. come." Leland's shaking. "Dad.". Boom! I we booted they're on the ground. I spoke in Spanish. Hands in the air. Don't nobody move, right? Bam! I heard. the back door slam and I knew he got.

away, right? So, I went out and when I was first. talking to her. uh she's in I'm in California hunting. the guy. She's in uh Colorado. But what. part of Colorado? Where you in? Elizabeth. >> Elizabeth. And she tells me the same. scripture. And I'm like "Wait a minute. How would. this white lady. whose name is Francy. I couldn't even remember her name. I had.

to call her Fancy Francy. Even know that she wasn't there. How. does. Ooh. The prayer. "Lord, I need a woman not just for you. know, hootchie cootchie, but I need a. soulmate. I need somebody that I can. lean on to. I need somebody that knows. God and has given her life to God. Uh. you know, I need so I just can't do it. by myself. You know, I've been with a. woman since I was 14. Mhm. And you know,

they were my age. She's the youngest uh. wife I've ever had. And so, I was like, I need I need I need a. You're getting way ahead of where she's. at. It's okay. It's okay. I love you. She asked you about you being the. protector. And and how it would it weighs on him. >> Yeah, what has that cost you to be the. protector? Why? I'm born to be. I don't understand. Is. it something cool not cool? No, no,

totally it is cool, but it's it's a. heavy burden to bear. >> Yes. >> look out for. everybody all the time. Like in life has. that cost you a sense of like uh. well, you just actually answered it. right there. That's your purpose and it. doesn't even bother you or affect you in. that way. You've never thought of it as. like, "Oh my god, I have to just be. everybody's protector." It just comes. naturally. >> He doesn't look at it like that at all. because that's that's who he is and it's.

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the Bounty Hunter." They're like, "Whoa.". They call her her dad and goes, "Is that. your dad?". And you know, that's his grandpa that's. her grandpa, my oldest son. Right. And. he goes, "Yeah, that's" and they like, "Oh, okay. We're not going to make her. do Can you get a picture from him?" So I. there I said in my first book, "If. there's a dime left over in the bank. account that's why my Francy. uh I made a mistake, but your dad, boy. boys and girls, is giving you.

everything. I was the one of the best. dads as far as my I never even when I. was single spent the night at a woman's. house cuz who could I get to babysit? Right. You know, five brats. And I mean brats, okay? >> No, you just had to get girlfriends to. marry you to take care of all those. kids. Yeah. Yeah, I I ran an ad. Can I say this. about baby Lisa? No. Oh, it was cute. Aw. Okay. I thought So I ran Say it and.

if we need to cut it out, we can. >> Okay. Yes, you can cuz I thought it was. something else. >> No, I ran an ad in the in the Kona. paper, needed uh housekeeper, single. father. five children. Cuz I was a single dad. for a lot. I won my kids in court. And so uh. every girl that came over brought a. bottle of wine, right? So I. >> Yeah. So you slept with everyone. >> Yeah. Only like. >> He's so Dog is a lover. We can go ahead.

and say that. Dog is a lover. >> That's putting it nicely. >> Yeah. Yes. So are you, mama. So. uh my baby Lisa was like seven and so we. take turns every day someone will say. the blessing, right? Mhm. So I tell her, "Okay, baby Lisa, your turn.". "Lord. thank you for this food and please. help Dad quit all the maids.". Oh my god, I said, right? Baby Lisa. "Well, Dad, it's true. They're all going. to be our mommies." I'm like, "Cuz I.

needed a you know, a mom.". That is great. I tried a couple of them. and then I divorced them. Oh my. goodness, Dog. So you've lived life on. camera as we've all got to see your. journey. How do you repair things with. your kids privately versus doing it in. front of the world for the world to. watch? >> All of them now are jam-up jelly tight, thank goodness. Especially the girls. Listen, if you guys are going to have. they can make it now where you know what.

cycle to go on to make a boy, don't make. any girls because they are Hallelujah. Let me tell you this up the day. >> No, my husband and I are to say that. through and through. We do not cuz we're. trying to have a baby. We want boys. We. do not want girls. Well, they they your. cycle, they can figure it out now. >> Yeah. I'm so grateful that God did not. give me girls. >> Oh, they're so emotional. I my gosh, I. couldn't have done it. >> Oh, it's it's. >> It's hard. >> little demons from 13 to 17 and a half.

I'm like No, wait till they when they. get 21 and all that. Oh god. >> then they get 35 and they know more than. you do. Oh, no. >> hit like 41 or two, then they're like, "God, I didn't know you knew so much, Dad." Oh man. >> Lisa just bear cut I've got 20 more. years of this. Oh, yeah. God. >> That's why you put a ball and chain on. them, right? >> Oh my goodness. I'm telling you. >> I think that that. going back to your question with the. kids. >> Mhm. when I first met him.

you know, I was still. I was still grieving my husband and that. was one of the first things that I said. to him on our very first phone call was, "I don't know how you're doing this. publicly." Yeah. And. now with. everything that we've just gone through. with my grandson. to have to do that so publicly.

was so hard. Um. My son and my daughter-in-law are uh. divorced, but my daughter-in-law is my. daughter. Yeah. I love her so much. And she was waiting for my grandson to. come home and he never came home. Mhm. He was supposed to fly back the next. morning. To have all of that spread.

all over the internet the way that it. was was the most horrific thing that I. have ever gone through in my life. I couldn't protect them. I couldn't protect I couldn't stop what. was being said, which was so many lies. Um. TMZ came out with it four hours after we. even just found out. We didn't even know. what happened yet. >> It's so invasive and disgusting. It is I.

truly believe there's a special place in. hell for all of these people who do. this. You're talking about a child. We. lost a child. >> yeah. And we. >> Just turned 13 4 days before that. >> We're devastated. What happened? Do Are we allowed to talk. about it? Cuz I mean it was so public. I. remember you guys were actually supposed. to come on the pod. >> Yes. >> And then that had happened and I saw it. and I was like, "Oh my god." And I. reached out to you guys and I was like, "I am so sorry. Like if you guys need. us, we're here." Um I can't.

I can talk about some things. I can't. talk about everything. Partly because. I'm not ready. Yeah, absolutely. >> because my son is. struggling so much. And. the weight and what he carries, he will. carry for the rest of his life. >> Mhm. He's a good guy. Never been arrested, none of that. No record at all. >> my grandson and my grandson adored him.

Yeah. [Music]. And his gun went off. And. There's some special Glock. I don't own. a Glock. >> There. It was a horrible, horrible accident and. my son will feel responsible for the. rest of his life. Oh my gosh. And I. can't even imagine carrying what he's. carrying. I'm so sorry. And knowing what. I'm carrying in the midst of all that, what my daughter-in-law is going.

through. And the fact that the media just did. what they did to us. >> It's It's inhumane. What they did to. people. >> makes me sick. It makes me sick. >> Yeah. And the A the They took pictures of me. off of my. um Instagram and did AI voice-overs and. said all and was putting it all over. TikTok and saying all of this horrible. stuff that like it looked like I was.

saying about my son and about dog. >> And it's disgusting. We lost a child. Yeah. The world loves a circus. It's like they. You can't control it. And I think that. you know, going back to the question. that we were talking about is like when. you guys are in the public eye as much. as long as you've been and now that. you're married to him, you are part of. his circus. How do you guys I I deal. with it also, so I get it.

How do you guys navigate something so. traumatic and the things that you guys. have been through with your families. privately. after it's already just been exploited. online? Um. It rocked my whole world. Um it was very difficult for me even. when I first stepped into his life. I I had We had to shut my social media. down at the beginning when we were first. together for like 6 months.

>> Oh my gosh. because I was getting death. threats because we were together. Mhm. Let's fast forward to there. Let's talk. about this and then we'll go back to. We'll talk about Beth, but you know, you guys got together. kind of briefly from what anybody could. see online was that you guys had got. together kind of briefly after Beth had. passed. How did you guys meet? How did. this relationship unfold? And. you know, take me on that journey with. you guys. My husband had passed away.

from cancer 6 months prior. It was about. 8 months, but anyway, prior to Beth. And we lived on a ranch. We had an. excavating company. and we plowed snow. And so. Dog's next door neighbor. um my husband did all the work in the. area that that he lived in and his next. door neighbor was a client. And so when. he came to Colorado to do Beth's funeral.

uh they hadn't been at the house for a. long time because Beth was sick. Mhm. And so the driveway was a wreck and from. the snow and the wash out and. everything. And so his neighbor said, "Oh, you have to call Bob Frain because. he's the best and he does everybody's. stuff.". So he had left a message. on Bob's phone and now like I'm eight.

almost a year in to. um Bob going home and I just really. wasn't calling people back anymore. There were Oh, Anthony had Bob's phone. that day. And it was on the couch and I saw that. there was messages on it. And so I. erased the first couple. I didn't listen. to them. And when I went to go erase the. the last message, it start playing out. loud on the speaker. And I.

half listening to what the guy's saying. and I hear him say what I think is, "This is Doug and I'm looking for Bob.". And. but I'm trying to erase the message and. stop it from playing and it won't. Well, wait. Let me say this. So she was at a. Holy Ghost Hoedown and Paige, your best. friend, said to go like that about you.

>> So. she had It's called a prophecy and so. she had come to me and said like, "I. really feel like God's God was I had. this dream and I feel like it's God's. telling me that I'm supposed to tell. you, but I really didn't want to hear it. because I was grieving so much." And. she's like, "I really feel like you're. going to meet Dog the Bounty Hunter and. God's going to use you guys to do change. lives and do all these amazing things.".

And I was like, "Sure. Okay.". And so. >> never heard of me cuz they don't watch. reality. Okay, so you never You didn't. know who Dog the Bounty Hunter was at. all? >> No. No. Wow. >> I never watched the show. That's crazy. >> And I had I didn't even I didn't know. who he was. And so Thanks. Sorry, baby. It's all right. I wasn't a. fan of my husband whenever I met him. I. didn't know who he was either. Never I. still don't listen to his music.

It's a good thing. >> that out. >> I think it's a good thing. >> leave it in. I talk about it all the. time. He talks about it. I think it's a. good thing actually. >> So she holds up or she holds up the. picture of Beth. Beth just died. >> Mhm. And she's like. >> Oh, my girlfriend. She pulls up a. picture of Dog and Beth from Google. And. she holds it right up to my face and. she's like, "This is Dog. You have to. know who he is. He's from Colorado. Like. he's a huge hero even just in Colorado.". And so I'm like, "Yeah, no. I've no idea.

who that dude is and he needs a freaking. haircut.". [Music]. Still doesn't have a haircut. No. I love. it now. I never said you were a. long-haired freak. She meant that in. your redneck mind. Stop it. Lord? I did not. So. >> to the phone call. He's He's like, "Let. me hear about me. Enough about you. Let's talk about me.". >> on. D O G. One G, not double. That's me. That's.

right. So I'm listening trying to erase this. message that won't stop playing and I. hear the guy say that. uh Carlos is my next door neighbor. And. so I was like, you know, Carlos doesn't know that Bob. died and I should call back just even. just to let the guy know that you know, I'm sorry. Bob died. And so I called. back the number from Bob's phone and I. hear this, "Hello.".

Is Doug. >> like we Is Doug there? And he's like, "Who's this?" I'm like, "This is Francie and uh you left a. message for Bob. Doug, I'm really sorry, but you know, Bob died a year ago of. cancer." And the guy starts bawling. And I'm like, "Who the crap is Doug and. why is he crying over Bob?" And all of a. sudden I hear the guy take a deep breath. and. he says, "My name's not Doug. It's Dog.

the Bounty Hunter.". >> Now wait. And there was a long pause. Which there is a lot of times if I go. number one, a lot of people even to go. stuff like is. Who is it for Doug? Yeah, that's me. So uh uh she's I thought she hung up. Oh, when I Yeah. Well, because I said. >> It's Dog the Bounty Hunter. >> your breath away cuz of what your friend. had told you? Yeah. Like everything she. said to me is like flashing in my mind.

in like 3 seconds. And I'm just like, "What's going on right now?". >> And so he had just done Beth's funeral. He was in a really, really bad way. Yeah. And so we had like a 2-hour. conversation and that was one of the. first things that I said to him was, "I. have no with what the amount of. grieving that I have been through, everything that I have been through in. my life, all the things that I've gone. through and everything that I did have.

done, nothing can compare to this. And I. don't know how you did that publicly.". Mhm. And he said, "I had to because it's. what what It's what Beth wanted.". >> Yeah. Aw. She didn't want people to forget. She did She wanted. you know, everybody to know the story. and what, you know. And so. um. we talked for a really long time and and. he asked me. He said, "All my friends. have been having their friends who have.

lost spouses call me, but there's. something about you that's that's your. things that you're saying and something. about what you're saying and how you're. saying it is different than anybody else. I've talked to and do you think I could. call you back?" And so I said yes. and we had. >> know what she looked like and you were. flirting with her over the phone? >> I was not flirting. >> No, he was not there. >> only. your mom's dead. Yeah. >> Okay. My sister. Yeah, can you call your sister? She's a.

good Christian, too. The other one. passed. But uh how can. >> were looking at her like a shoulder to. lean on. >> Yes. Yes. >> you. A woman. Yes. No man, I don't like. guys hardly. Yeah. No, I don't. >> I get it. I don't like them either. >> Unless they're the gang or something. I. got it. Or they're your husband. Yeah, exactly. So, you know, of course the the first. phone call after I get off the phone. with him is to the friend and I said to. her, "Are you sitting down right now?".

And so she's like, "Oh my gosh, what's. happening?" And I was like, "I just got. off the phone with Dog the Bounty. Hunter." She was screaming. and having a meltdown. >> What a best friend moment though, you. know? >> And yes. So it was a year almost before. we spoke again. Aw. Um he had. you had the blood clot and you were in. the hospital. >> goodness. >> And you were going through a bunch of. stuff with the kids and you know. you ended up staying in Colorado. So you.

didn't move on that quickly after Beth's. death. >> No, everybody says that, but. >> Yeah. it was Just public fodder is what. it was. >> years. We got married 2 years later. And. like everybody what I said on internet, you know, that's why she took away all. my passwords to every internet thing I. said. Well, because you're threatening. everybody. Who took away the passwords? I did. Good. for you. >> don't have any of. cuz I always, you know, I'm at the age.

where your mama said, you know, one. Well, uh. you should have waited longer cuz you. could have had kids. I said, "Listen, I'd have been your daddy, but the line. was too long.". >> Stop it. That is terrible. So Stop it. Laura, help me out over there. I love the. feistiness of Dog. I'm an Aquarius, so I. get it, you know, like I totally 100% Oh. my gosh, when we go places That's why we. were when we were talking earlier and I. gave him permission to But normally when.

we go places I'm in the front row going, "Oh. my god." I'm just. praying, "Please." So you're like the. calm to his storm. Yes. Oh, no, there's. some stormy weather too. Yeah. Yeah. But it seems like you guys feed. off of each other in a loving and. healthy way cuz sometimes when two. storms come together it can create a. bigger storm and you guys seem like you. guys both know when just to lean on the. other. >> Well, I'm the thunder, she's the. lightning. Aw, I love that. >> more powerful. Yeah. I love that so.

much. >> Jesus said I threw God I saw Satan. uh fall from heaven. >> heaven like lightning. So I wonder if. he's all burned up and looks like [ __ ]. instead of some handsome guy. Yeah. >> just a crispy dude. That's so funny. >> Since you guys have lost love and, you. know, been through so much loss in your. life, what does love look like now that. you're both rebuilding together? Who's that I see walking in my boots?

[Laughter]. I think that we are very. in We don't take We definitely don't. take things for granted. We don't take. each other for granted. No. We don't. take what we have. for granted because we have. witnessed first hand what it's like to. have it ripped from you. Mhm. And. we we both.

are so passionate about because of what. we've been through Mhm. um. the drugs and the I was selling. my brother all of my growing up. And that threw me into the drug life in. Miami and I married my my drug dealer. >> is no joke either. >> Yeah. I married my drug dealer. >> Now, how much What kind of you sell? Ounces or what? Yeah, I was I did a lot. of drugs. Me, too. What did you sell? Yeah, same.

Kilos, ounces, same. Yeah, same. So now with everything that that we've. been through. and. what we've lost. um. we know that we want to spend every. moment loving each other. that we can that we have together. and we want to do everything that we can. to change as many lives for the good as.

we can while we're here because of. everything that we've lost. I love that. You guys are super cute though. I love. the energy you guys have between you. two. >> Thank you. So let's rewind just a little. bit and we're just going to touch on. Beth and then I'll I will let you guys. out of here. We'll do a closing, but how. did her illness and passing change the. way that you love and and that you. forgive? Well, I believe, you know, that. the Bible says that. uh. the hardest member of the body is the.

tongue and a lot of men think it's. another member of the body. So it's like Tony Robbins and all them, what you say you become. Well, that's. way back, you know, when when the Bible. was written and what you say. So I kept. tell I kept expecting a miracle, okay? And so one day right before she passed, she called me. We were in Colorado, but she passed in Hawaii. She wanted to. get out of Colorado, go home. And so uh. she called me in the room. She goes, "Okay.

I know that you're going to get. remarried cuz I told her I never would. I did not think I was going to. That was. it. >> said the same thing, too, yeah. I never. thought I would, either. >> And so. she goes, "Uh you've been called to the. ministry.". And she was thinking in a church. preaching. It's not that. It's the. ministry, right, to everybody I meet. And so I haven't worn this right here. and so has Francie that, you know, uh. just in case, okay? That some, you know,

I'm I'm not handsome handsome, but I'm. Dog the Bounty Hunter. I've had the. National Enquirer, you know, girls come. up to me in Vegas and all that, "Hey, baby. Can we fool around?" And then I. go, "Listen, you tell the National. Enquirer that I said eh eh.". And then she went, "Here, how did you. know?" And I go, "It's all right. It's. not your fault.". So uh That's not the question. Go back. to the question. >> Uh it's okay. I love hearing him talk. Well, I love hearing him talk forever. We're going to hurry, so I had to say. something. Plus I got to tell you about. my youngest son, too.

>> Yeah. So uh. then she said, "I know you're going to. get remarried, but here's a list of 10. people that you better not marry.". >> And she said, "Don't let me die in. vain." I'll never forget this. >> Aw. You're not going to die. She's like, "Face it. Yes, I am.". And she said and she. was really bad. She was like down to 107. lb. >> Mhm. And so uh. You know, you guys were the dynamic duo. back then. Yeah. Look at what you created with her and.

Dog the Bounty Hunter. Do you feel like. you guys were more of like best friends. instead of like soulmates that built. something together or do you consider. her a soulmate? >> didn't have uh. too many friends. Got you. Okay. She was. She was a tough cookie for Yes. Yes. >> And she showed that on the show. She. didn't hide it. No. And so uh. you know, I loved her very much and then.

when she passed away. you know, right before I called her and. after I called her, I was in Colorado. I. We had a back lanai a deck and I was. screaming, right? Beth, you said you. effing b. You told me you would never. leave me. I was going to go first, right? And I was devastated, right? I even had. a dream one night when she didn't like. flowers when I took her to Hawaii. Then. she loved them, right? She didn't like. sand, either, and then she loved it. And so she was watering these flowers. I.

went up. uh in heaven. I snuck up behind her. I. always had to go like that cuz she. didn't like anyone sneaking up. So I went Hello. And she turned around. with the water like, "Oh, Big Daddy, it. took you long enough to get here. Where. were you?". And uh That was a dream you had, right? >> Yeah. And so I thought, "All right, I'm. going to go ahead and take a hot shot. because I'll go to heaven. She's waiting. on me, right?". I mean, I loved her very, very much, you. know, the last few years. I loved her.

Yeah. And uh. and then she died, you know, it was. uh one of the most besides losing my mom. and my. my first daughter you know, it was. devastating. >> Devastating. Yeah, it was devastating. >> You don't ever think that you're going. to recover. Mhm. I couldn't imagine. >> weight of the grief is so intense. um. that you don't think that you're going.

to recover. You You can't You can't even. see past your own hand in front of you. and you just don't even know how life is. going to. ever go on. And that was a big part of. when we first got together, what. what people were so mad at him about is. because he said publicly on TV that he. was never going to get married again. And so people. >> will hold you to the cross. People were. so angry. I told your mom again.

And what do you wish people understood. about rebuilding after loss? Well, the Bible says when a spouse dies. that you're open. I don't care I knew. one guy saw me one day I had a this old. houseboat I was being her. my son Greg. was unloading it in this old man came up. to me said, "Listen, I see what they're. doing to you. I got married one week. after. my wife died. I was married 46 years.".

He couldn't be alone. And he said she. said. when he said, "I'll never get married.". Uh you know, he was probably my age and. she she said, "Honey, if you don't get married right away and. I picked my best friend for you to marry. then you never loved me. You didn't like a wife. You didn't want. to help her.". And he goes, "By God, dog, I asked her. to marry me and she said, 'I do.' And. I've been married to her now for 3 happy. years.".

So there was good things coming my way. and you know, how could you do this? You're going to hell because Beth you. know, she's looks exactly like Beth. Her. hair is like that. I'm like Beth has. chimichangas like out here. And they. were real and she had bleached blonde. hair. Now you know, I mean. Francine's got chimichangas, too, but. her hair is not bleached blonde. And. Beth was 5'3". >> the difference between them. They don't. look alike. Beth's 5'3" 5'4" and she's.

5'9" 5'10". >> What's wrong with a man that has. preference though? If you like blondes, you like blondes. What's. wrong with that? I I get so much stuff. about how I'm trying to be like Beth and. look like Beth. I've always been blonde. I think you definitely have a more. calmer spirit than Beth. I've never met. Beth, didn't get to know her or anything. like that, but just from what I've seen. on TV of how she presented herself, you're very you're a lot calmer. >> Oh, she's a firecracker, let me tell.

you. Yeah. Yeah, it was you know, it was. the best show. The best show and she. would sing that to me. Oh, it ain't about the family. It's the. best show. I said, "Shut up. It's called Dog the. Bounty Hunter, not. not Beth the Bounty Hunter." Well, the. next show we're going to get is Dog and. Beth on the Hunt. All right, we'll get I. watched you guys religiously. My. girlfriends and I we would we were. strippers in Vegas and we would get off. at like 6:00 in the morning and we would. go home, make breakfast, and literally. just fall asleep watching Dog the Bounty.

Hunter. We were both in love we were all. in love with Leland. We were all going. to hook up with Leland. We didn't care. >> do. Yes. Yeah, well, I know Jamie, so I. think him and Jamie are adorable. We love Jamie. Let me tell you. I I have to say out of all the girls in. the family, Jamie and Cecily are. definitely the family protectors. And we're dealing with somebody right. now and Jamie just.

she will not she is like, "I am not. quitting. This sucker is not talking. about my family.". We love Jamie. We had these two guys. that you know, sued us everything. I. went on. What was it? Inside Edition and that guy. burned me, came to my house as my friend. and now they're both once in prison. right now. They owed one. 1,999,000. dollars to different creditors, a. billion dollars. They finally caught.

them and now they're gone. So these guys uh ruined two TV shows for. me. that were coming back cuz of nothing but. lies. Who were these people to you? >> were. they were. friends. and just con artists. Yes, that's what. they were called. What do you call it. when someone dies and you're really uh. you know, you're mourning and then. somebody pops up and says, "Oh, I paid. for Beth's funeral, 86 grand." I saw the.

black preacher later later cuz I had it. in a black church and he goes, "Dog, we. did it for you." You know, for free. What do they What do they call that when. you're mourning and then suck up against. you? They're just con artists and they were. they were. friends with you and Beth prior to and. they just you know, You got to be careful with who you let. close to you especially in this day and. age people are. And to be me I mean to my kids and all.

that. So Gary boy. the little blonde is now a a police. officer in Alabama. I I've seen the. headlines. >> And so uh Be careful. I am and so he's I. can't say much about it, but. he is a pure cop. Always wanted to be a. bounty hunter. He is such a good guy and. such a good cop. >> just got married to a great nurse. They're they're Well, she's going to. graduate in March. And you know, he the the blue code I. mean, you don't you don't you back up,

you know, you don't leave any man there. No. You back up. So the mayor, the. police chief, they left my son out there. and then they reversed the decision or. the mayor city council reversed the. decision and now they got him, you know, working back there, but he can't be on. the streets or nothing. Well, wasn't it a it was a car accident, correct? Gary didn't cause the car accident. Okay. There was a guy that was high that. he tried to pull over.

and the guy pulled away and ran. and Gary was almost he was 10 car. lengths behind the guy. He wasn't even up on him pushing him. through traffic and the light and all. those things. He was. that far behind him and the guy ran. through the light and he hit a van or a. SUV and there were four teenagers in the. car. One of them was killed which was. devastating for everyone.

And for Gary, too, he he was devastated. that that happened and it wasn't his. fault. And. that's that's all we can say about that. >> Imagine him his whole life. He wanted to. be a bounty hunter at three or four. years old, tried to sneak in if you ever. seen that show in my boot. I'm going to. be a bounty hunter dad at four now I can. do it. I know. And uh he's big. Her dad was is in the. Baseball Hall of Fame, 6'4" 300 pounds. of muscle. Beth's dad.

>> Yeah, Beth's dad and Gary boy is built. like her dad only he's 6'2". But I tell him, you know, look what I. went through way before you were born, Gary. You were born with a silver spoon. in your mouth. You have no idea how many times they. took away my bail license, how many. times they did this. I've been in jail. for kidnapping cuz they said I couldn't. do it till I saw the judge. Just keep praying, just keep going,

don't worry. Got his job back. Now I. want him in another department, but he's. got a lot of stuff to do there. But uh. you know, me going through that kind of. stuff I went through helps the kids, right? Yeah, cuz they see that you've. gone through so much turmoil and came. out on the other side each time and. that's probably what the situation is. going through. >> Even with my Greg, you know, I lost my. Barbara Katy, my firstborn daughter. The. day before I married Beth, I was so high. to get through that wedding. Valiums, Halcions, I mean, I was not.

going to do it. And uh A&E said, "Come on, you know." So. you lost your daughter right before you. married Beth? >> The day before. >> So you really haven't ever given. yourself time to just grieve. Oh, yeah, I did. Every time I would say her name. or my mom's, I'd cry. And she prayed. with me twice. And uh Look, There's a time to grieve. and trauma. Yeah. And we all have an. appointment, okay? Whether you're two or.

102. Yeah. It is appointed on for us. And the Bible says there's a time for. mourning, but it's not forever. Right. You know, I know guys and girls I know a. lot of people that go once a month, birthday, holiday, the day they were married, the. day they died to the gravesite. Yeah. They're not there. You know, I had a guy call me and say, you know, my daughter was riding shotgun. and the guy flipped the car over and.

this guy called me as I walked around my. pool in Hawaii. and he goes, "I saw the guy that died, too, and let me tell you something. He. was sucking for air and it took him.". And I go, "Stop. right now. No matter what you say is not going to. bring Barbara Katy back.". And just like the death penalty. you know, the guys fried or now lethal. injection and all that and I talked to a. lady the other day. a couple years ago she said, "Yeah, the. guy I was there. I watched him take his.

last breath and the next day I went to. visit my daughter's grave and nothing. changed, dog." Yeah. So I get that. I. understand that. And your generation. doesn't like to feel things either, so. you guys just keep on trucking, but I do. kind of want to go back to something you. just said. You were high when you. married Beth. Does that mean that you. were in your addiction whenever you were. filming Dog the Bounty Hunter? >> No. No. Okay, cuz I want to clarify that. cuz I know people would probably hear. that No. So no, he.

I could I couldn't do it. He was my. pastor. and Beth had some pills or he okayed. them and she gave me uh some pills to. get me through it, right? Okay, got you. Got you. After the wedding dance and all. that. And then that was it, you know? But. >> I mean, you're grieving your daughter, so you're I would need a Xanax or. something if I was going through. something like that. >> Yes. But like what a uh. what a shadow to cast on the beginning. of a marriage also, you know, to have to.

go into a marriage with that heavy of a. heart. I It's just you're you're a tough. cookie. Yeah, and she Beth, I'm thinking about. her grandmother who she's named after, but she wasn't tight with her, Elizabeth. Beth never lost her dad. She lost her. dad. And. but her mom passed after Beth passed. No. brothers, sisters, none of them. So, to. face well, she was daddy's little girl. But to face death like we have done,

Beth, I'm glad never had to go through. that. Right. >> Cuz I don't know if Beth would have, you. know, would have made it through, you know. what I mean? >> Yeah. It's heavy. Death is heavy. Yeah. My mom was my favorite and my. little boy, Gary boy, was 16. Yeah, when his mama passed, right? And. he was a spoiled brat. She spoiled him. so much out of all the kids. But yeah, now he's uh He's so amazing.

We love I love him so much. I'm so proud. of him. I feel like you've done a good. job with all your kids, even if they've. had their own little quirks and stuff. like that. They've all turned out pretty. much for the good. >> Well, I met uh. a guy that his son recorded him drunk. eating a cheeseburger. Do you know who. remember who that was? Uh-uh. And so I. met him with Gene Simmons at a big gig. Yeah. And he got me to the side. He. goes, "Remember that?" And I go, "Oh. man." He goes, "It ruined my career.". Oh. And I go, "Did it?".

>> to Google that. I don't know who that. is. >> uh. he said, "Well, he's doing a show right. now. in Albuquerque, New Mexico, cuz back. then they if you film there, it was. free, no taxes and all that. And he said, "Don't worry. When they're young like that and they're. raised, you know, in Hollywood, they are. sellout rats." Oh man, they're not all. like that. >> they get older, you know, uh. they they just mature and they become. better.

And well, you know, >> raising a kid in the spotlight. We're. doing it right now. Yeah, well, it was. it was Mel Gibson. Okay. Yeah, I know. I mean, Cuz it it. devastated him. Yeah. Big deal, he was. drunk eating a cheeseburger. Yeah. Excuse me, I felt like saying, "Well, you're not Jesus. I know one guy. that never dialed the wrong number, never jaywalked. His name is Jesus. Christ.". >> Mhm. So, you know, I I to me. >> Everybody else is.

>> Yeah, it's. Well, I have to say the for for me as. far as all all of the kids go, um you know, there has been ups and. downs and trying to find my way in a. relationship with everybody and they're. all so different. That's probably got to. be hard on you, too. >> It was tough. >> To navigate. >> And um I think the biggest turnaround. was with Cicaly. Cicaly was so close.

with Beth and Beth was her best friend. She hated me and swore that we would. never she would never ever have a. relationship with me. And we just. um. both decided that. we we wanted a relationship and we made. some steps towards each other and have. made this huge turnaround. And we have. the most awesome relationship. Yeah, Baby Lyssa's the only one in.

Hawaii still. Yeah. And my granddaughter. Abby's in Colorado. And then Madeline, she's born on TV, you know? She uh. just got a driver's license. And I want. to tell you know, it's so expensive over. there in Hawaii and stuff. I keep. telling Beth cuz she came and met her. and Madeline came and met Francie at a. Airbnb. We all stayed there and Baby. Lyssa went on the porch and said, "Dad, thank God you married this lady. I love. her.".

And so they have their ups and downs. Baby Lyssa's a stubborn little girl. That's family though. Yeah, yeah. Nobody has a perfect family and it. we put the fun in dysfunction, you know? And it's like whatever you guys can. whatever you guys can do to just create. a safe, loving environment, those kids. will come to you now they'll be drawn to. that naturally. You know, that's how it. was with Bailey when we got custody of. her when she was 7 years old. She was so. mad at us because we took her from her. mom.

My husband's. uh his first baby mother is an addict. She's deep in addiction still to this. day. We've had Bailey custody of Bailey. for 10 years now. Um and you know, she. was so. >> beautiful. She's such a sweetheart and. she's my best friend. I love her to. death. She drives me up a wall, but I. love her to death and I just always knew. that if I just was a steady, safe space. for her that one day she would. love me, you know? And I didn't force my. love on her. I didn't even force hugs on. her and now I can't get the kids to stop. hugging me and like and that's what you. have to do. Yeah. With the boys and the.

girls. Yeah, you have to do that. >> Jamie, Beth and them fought all the time. and I was afraid for Jamie to meet. Francie. And Jamie loves her. She loves. Jamie. Jamie's a good chick. >> Leland only one time. uh has Leland, you know, talked bad to. me and then. even a year later, just the other day. he's like, "I can't believe I did that, Dad." I said, "It's all right.". You know, I should have beat you like my. dad did. Then maybe you wouldn't have talked to. me like that. No, I'm just kidding.

No, Jamie's a sweet chick. I used to. talk to her a lot. We used to be I I'd. like to say we were friends and I talked. to her a lot and she's just a really. good woman. >> Yes, yes, she is. Well, I've held you guys for so long. Let me ask you a a couple last questions. and then I'll get you guys out of here, but if you could erase everything people. think they know about you and start. fresh, what would you want the world to. understand about Dog the Bounty Hunter? And now Francie. Ooh. Well,

uh. you know, I think, you know, people say, well, let me start it like this. People. say, "If your dad wouldn't have beat. you, you wouldn't become the man that. you are." Mhm. And I say I would have. been the head of the FBI. Yeah. And so everything. >> path. And I Lord, please forgive me and. don't let it happen ever again in Jesus'. name, but the things I and Francie's been. through made us.

Dwayne Dog. and how do you say your Francie? Francie. No, the other way. Frances Patrice. Yeah. Yeah. So, that. has made us both to who we are today. There's few things that I wish. I shouldn't say I wish I could change. because the Lord is like, "Oh, really? How about these big beans?". So, I think the God's plan I finally.

You know, it's like the guy that throws. out that little round thing when they're. swimming. Mhm. Cuz they're drowning. Yeah. I finally was just almost out of. breath and I reached up and grabbed it, pulled myself up and the side of the. boat I saw this. freaking rancher with this great big. smile on his face. There was it the great big smile that. got you? Yes, it was. And you can't she. got such long fingers that she flips me. the bird. I'm like, "Sure." No, "Sure. Stop it.".

Um and lastly, what's one chapter that. you haven't lived yet, but you know is. coming? It's our next. Yeah. You can you can say it. It's our next. We're going to she's going to we both. are going to ride bail again in Georgia. Yay. And all we're going to film it. And I have not as many as you and your. husband have. But for Dog Chapman, I got 5 million. That's a lot. >> Yeah. So, then you can go into everything, you.

know, uh YouTube where you can actually watch. it on TV again and all that. It's not. going to be like the show, but we're. going after the bad guy. Yeah. >> Like I said, I'd like you two to go uh. ride along with the girl. >> to. I'd like to ride along with you know. who with the guy. I would love to. And I. always wanted to do. hunting with the celebrities or no, hunting with the stars like Dancing with. the Stars. And then, you know, that'll be just a. portion of it. We want to do we want to. do it do different things though. He's.

still going to hunt and do that part, yeah. But we want to do interventions. She's really she's licensed. interventionist. She's really good at. that. Wow. And this And going we've been. going into the prisons and so we're. going to continue to do that. And so we just want to make it. we want he's going to film, but it's. going to be different. It's not going to. be like he was doing and he'll still be. with Leland and he's got a couple of. other guys that he's working with now. I. would love to help you guys with.

whatever. We just started going to. domestic violence relation domestic I. went through a domestic violence. relationship, but we just started going. to to a domestic violence shelters to. talk to the women and help them and I. really want to start getting involved in. more of that. I have so many prisons. that reach out and want me to come talk. >> Listen, that's what I do. I would love. to team up with you guys and help if you. guys ever did it. That one girl that. you're teamed up with? Mhm. Oh, bro, you. should see uh. the her reader book and see what she. looked like. Oh. It's it's like that old.

Speed commercial, here's Julie then and. here's Julie now. Right? She's in she's in the prison the. largest prison. in Florida is in Ocala and it's called. LOL. Wow. >> And so she is. I'm teaming up with her and we were. she's already been going into the. prisons, but I'm going to start going in. to. the Ocala prison with her, but we are. doing that in Georgia also in the.

prisons and. >> We've been in a few together, though. >> Yeah. And Jay would love to go into the. men with you. Like he would love to do. that. >> uh. What is it called? >> um Mississippi, Missouri. Louisiana. We did the prison in. Louisiana with Ben Fuller. Yeah. >> And God Behind Bars. Yeah. >> Yeah. So we've been doing that and we. were we want to film that east, too, and. >> could get a show on like a streaming. network. >> That's what we're exactly doing. >> Yeah. We're going to start filming it.

filming ourselves. >> Netflix, your name is big enough to go. to Netflix to go to. >> they'll do, okay, because of some guy. that got a choke handle, choke and died, you can't even put a guy in headlock. anymore. Oh, wow. >> the head goes, the body follows, right? And I got to throw down. I don't know if. you've seen the shows, but I can still. I can still knock a few out, right? So. and I'm glad I couldn't be able to carry. a gun. >> Jaime is a big fan, by the way. But I've been shot in the head, the leg.

So it's a good thing I didn't carry a. gun cuz I would be more than 13 Billy. the Kid, right? By the way, and Billy the Kid was a guy. hunter, too. One of the first ones. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> So uh We want to do it different. >> Yes, for sure. Well, of course, cuz you. guys also don't want to get the scrutiny. of you guys trying to emulate. So yeah, definitely do it your way, but again, who gives a as long as you guys are in. love and you guys are Oh, I could care. less. >> Exactly. If you guys are doing you guys.

have such good energy. I'm sitting I've. been sitting with you guys for the past. 2 hours. Like I just love how you guys. are towards each other. You can tell. when people love each other and when. they don't, you know? And you guys. really have just amazing energy. together. I love how protective you are. of him because he needs a protector. because he's always been the protector. >> All my friends call me the gatekeeper. Aw. You got to be kidding. >> freaking ranchers and handsome truck. drivers and freaking tractor guys. We. were first got together and I saw this. guy looked like a banker, right? He was.

a rancher, drives a big old truck, big. old belt buckle. He was like looking at. her feet and then looking up and he was. like that to himself and I thought, you. punk. So I walked over to her cuz she was. buying something and I said, "Okay, honey." and I kissed her on the cheek, right? And she went and sat down and I. walked over to him and I go, "Hey, you. know who I am?" He's like, "Yeah." I go, "I'm going to tell you something, farmer. I'm not a farmer, I'm a. rancher." I go, "The same thing." It's. not the same thing. >> No, people will come for you for that. Listen, it is not the internet. That is.

not the same thing. Yeah. I thought you. were a farmer, too. But I told him, "Listen, farmer.". >> a John Deere tattoo. >> need to start telling people you guys. met on farmersonly.com. Just start that rumor. That's awesome. I. love it. I swear I went to Christian. uh. uh Christian.com. I really did. >> ChristianMingles. Yeah, ChristianMingles, sure. Right. That's so. funny. Are you a jealous Are you a jealous man? The Bible says jealousy is as cruel as.

the grave. >> the question she asked. Yes, he is. I love how he goes to Bible. verses to deflect. That is not the. question. Yes, he is. And it's called. spinning. I'm one of the best spinners you could. ever know. >> Oh, it's all right. My husband does it. Trust me. Yes. He Well, I told you that. man can talk circles. What was the. question you asked me? I said, "Are you. a jealous man?". Uh very. Aw. Oh, yeah. Oh, yeah. >> Passionate. You both. >> Yeah. >> All three. Aw. Yes.

>> I love that, though. I love you. I What. time I You know, sometimes. Well, I'm going to say. So some guy. said, uh. "Yeah, man, I seen that fine ass. woman that you got. Man, she is. long-legged and lanky. Ooh la la." I go, "Oh, is that right?" So I look like. that, right? Wham! I hit him, right? Down he went, right? And then I stood. there, had some water, told the girl, "Bring me some water.". And the girls what he she was jogging.

What happened? I go, "I don't know." So. he woke up and he goes, He said, "I. don't know. I don't know." He said, "What happened?" I said, "I don't know. You were saying something about my. wife.". And some guy ran by here and busted you. right in the mouth. "What color was he?" This is all. allegedly, right? This is allegedly. "What color was he?" cuz he's still. trying to come out of it, right? I go, "I don't know. He's like that fire guy. Shoo! Boom! Shoo! He was gone so quick.". "Man, he'll. Are you okay, dog?" I said, "Yeah." "You. need help to your car?" "No, I'm fine.".

I took off quick. I hope you don't call. the law, right? Yes. >> But yes, very very. And I don't God is a. jealous God. Oh, there I go. Thank you, Lord. The Bible says, "I am a jealous. God.". >> Yeah. You know, it is a fearful thing to. fall into the hands of a living God. Yeah. >> So he's jealous, too. He's He don't want. us going off with Satan. >> Right. >> jealous. I sent my only son who I begot. to die for you.

And what if it's not true? You know, I met an atheist. I'll tell. you a joke when we close. I met an. atheist and uh. the Bible says there's no such thing. that we all have a conscience and we all. believe. So here's the joke. So. >> Oh, I have to use the restroom. I'll. pass on. [Laughter]. There was this great white great white. hunter named Buana. And so Buana was out hunting.

uh by himself. Buana was an atheist, okay? And so. Buana means great white hunter, okay? So. uh all of a sudden he was in Alaska and. he saw this big grizzly stand up and it. was right before they hibernate, so. they're starving, right? And they're. like above 7 ft, even 8 ft tall when. they put when they stand up grizzly. They're one of the most violent bears. there is. You can't outrun them. So he took off running, threw his rifle,

took off running. and uh. he tried to. Every time he got kept turning around, kept turning around, the bear got. closer. Grunted, right? They're like bulldogs. They're not tired. They just grunt. And so finally got him and he got on top. of him and he took his. thing his big paw cuz one swipe would. take your head off, right? And so all of a sudden time froze. And he heard the voice of God. No, he.

goes, "Oh my God!" Then time froze. And so God said, "Hey, you don't believe. in me. Why did you say just for the bear was. going to kill you. Oh my God! If you don't believe in me.". And he goes, "Well, I don't know." He goes, "Well, listen. Do you believe in me now that you hear. the voice?" And he goes, "Maybe it's just because I'm freaked out. and maybe. uh. maybe I still don't believe it's you.".

And he said, "So let me ask you this, God. Uh you make the bear a Christian that. believes in you. and we'll see what happens.". So poof! The bear draws his paw back. The guy's. like, "Wow, right?" And the bear's like. sitting down on his thing. He looks at. the guy and he goes, "Dear Lord, thank you for this food and bless it to. my body in Jesus' name. Amen." As he.

began to eat the guy. >> Oh, no. >> no such a thing as an atheist, right? So as long as there is a God we'll be. fighting the devil. Always. >> We're after the devil's herd. Aw. Dog, thank you so much for being here. >> you. Stop it. >> You and Francy are just gems. I adore. you guys so much and I hope you guys. come and visit me more. But I want to go. I want to come see you guys, too. >> Yes, and let's do the uh the Mutiny the. Mutiny on the Bounty where you I'm.

ready. And the prisons. You got to kill. his phone number, right? >> would love to have you come in. I would. love to. I would Yeah, I would love to. love to. And then my friend wants your husband. January 20th in Vegas. He owns You know those little red knives. What are they called? The It's the guy. who owns Swiss Army. Okay. And he's a. really good Jewish guy. Okay. >> And when I he heard I was coming to see. you guys, he's like, "Oh man, when you. ask her about the ride-along, see if.

he'll come there." I said, "I'm sure he. will.". >> Yeah, I I'll put you in contact with his. people. He We actually are going to be. in Vegas for New Year's, so. >> Yeah. Well, I think he said it's the 20th and. I told him, "You. >> Well, we have something on the calendar. on the 20th, don't we? I forget what it. is. We'll figure it out. No, I listen, I know I will. until we meet each other. Listen, I Every morning I listen to. Christian music and praise, you know, for a little bit in the mornings. And.

every single time I turn on it, it's a. song Jelly Roll either wrote or sings. with Ben Fuller, what's her name, Dolly. Parton. Hold on, we're calling him right. now. My husband's called three times. since we've been here. He's probably trying to call before he. went in the blind. Yes. Sorry, I didn't hear my I didn't see my. phone ringing. Let me text him. He's in the blind right now, I think. He. just sent me a picture. Look. Literally,

this is That's his view right now. He's bow hunting right now. He's in. Texas. While I'm hunting. Oh, here he is. Hold on. Let me see. Then I can't answer. The deer are 20. yards away. Here, I'm going to send you a I just. pose. Take a picture. 1 2 3. I'm going to send that to him. I'll get you guys connected, I promise. Yes. Yes. And we will for sure stay in.

touch. Yeah, absolutely. Let me end this. really quick. Thank you guys for. listening to another episode of Dumb. Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. And. hello hot. And if you don't tune in next week, what. day? Um well, I'll let you I'll let you. know. So, that's she'll let you know. And if you don't tune in, I WILL HUNT. YOU DOWN. >> YEAH. GET HIM, BARB. [Music]. [Applause].