Did Miranda Write This Song For Blake?

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sister from Another Mista. My feminine. rage soul sister over here. I mean, the. music she makes is just speaks to your. soul. It's Miranda Lambert. How are you? >> Hello. >> I'm so happy to have you here. >> Thanks for having me in your new pretty. studio. >> I know. Did it Did it scare you when it. came in here? When you came in here? >> Awesome. It looks like you. >> A I appreciate that so much. What have. you been up to? You're like in and out. of Nashville all the time. You guys just.

got back from Europe, correct? >> Yeah, we went to Italy. It was awesome. It was like the first time I've ever. been to Europe without work. It's like. I've never. >> like just gone to Europe for fun. >> Yeah. >> I mean, which works out usually when. we're like touring over there, you just. stay for fun and make it a trip. But. >> um my manager, Marian, had a big. birthday, so we went to celebrate her in. Italy and. >> ate all the pasta and took a brain. break. It was nice. >> That's amazing. I don't know how to take. a break without working either. So to be.

able to disconnect and like go to. another country and just vibe out is. like. >> I think to going to the other country is. the ticket because the time zone is so. like all of everybody here is asleep. till like your 5:00 and then my 5:00 I'm. already drinking wine so I'm like well. can't answer you. Sorry. >> Like catch me tomorrow. >> Yeah. Exactly. So it was great. We just. got back, but we have a record coming. out. So, it's like we had a busy year. and then just took that two week gap of. like reset before the rest. Yeah,

>> absolutely. Where did you guys go? >> We went to Lake Ko, which I had never. been to. It's beautiful. >> And that's in Italy, correct? Okay. >> And then it's like an hour from. Florence. And then we went to Florence. and then we went to Tuskanyany like in. the hills of Tuskanyany. >> That's so romantic. It was so peaceful. and like. >> they just do life better. >> They just are it's just everything. slowed down. Like it's not we're just. chaotic Americans chasing all our dreams. and doing everything fast, you know?

Yeah. >> Which I I love that part about home and. I miss it when I'm like somewhere really. quiet like that. I'm like. >> it's fun. For a few days I'm like, "Okay, where's all the action? >> Where's the loudness?" Yes. >> Is it hard for you to relax? Because I. know like whenever my husband and I go. on vacation too, like the first two days. we'll be like, "Oh, this is great." And. then the third day we're like, "All. right, we we'll get back on the phones. or we'll like start posting." And it's. just so hard to to break from that. >> I think it takes like 3 days to really. like get in to like or more sometimes.

just to calm down, you know what I mean? >> So two weeks we were we kind of took. just two weeks off. And so it was like a. little panicky, but then once you settle. into it, it's like you really need to do. it. You just don't know you need to. until you get the chance, you know? >> Yeah. I think that's been my biggest. lesson this year is learning how to. relax and not pile on so much cuz I'm. I'm I think you're a lot like me, too. We just go go. We're just like trained. to go. >> Yes. >> And this year, I've been trying to teach.

myself to just kind of relax a little. bit. Do you feel like that's how it's. been for you this year, or you still go? >> For sure. I mean, I reached a pretty. high level of burnout last summer, and I. didn't. >> realize what it was until I was like, I. think this is what they call burnout. Like, just from just not taking a break. or like a long enough one, you know, just a couple of days at a time just. wasn't enough for like the amount of. busyness. And so, I I just feel like we. have to learn the balance. It's really.

hard when you're so driven. >> to like relax into doing nothing. And. but if you don't recharge, it's like. then you're only operating at 50%. anyway. >> Absolutely. >> You know, like the recharging is so. important. It's just hard to do. >> It is. And I mean, you've been in the. industry what, 24 years? >> Yeah. >> That's a long time. So for you to just. have reached burnout last year. You're a. savage. >> Like you are an animal. >> Well, I think it's like and it wasn't. like the like burnout where I'm like,

I'm quitting forever. It was just like. one of those moments. I've had those. over the years. And honestly, a lot of. it for musicians, as you know, cuz. you're on tour, is August, like when. you're doing summer tours, >> like I think y'all did last year. >> Mhm. We start Yeah. We started earlier. last year. >> Yeah. And so by the time August comes, you're like have been hot all year. You're playing outside. You're just like. >> August is usually like the everyone's. like, I don't want to tour anymore. It's. like, yes, you do. It's just August, right? >> It's just what we do in August. But and. then you take a break and you're like,

okay, I'm ready again. But yeah, it's um. I don't know. I just think I'm starting. to learn a better how to balance. >> like actually living your life because. as a creative if you don't go live your. life there's nothing to write about. There's nothing to. like there's no fuel. You know what I. mean? If you just constantly are going. to the next goal it's like not sitting. in the success either of what you've. already done, you know? >> Absolutely. And I think it that also.

comes with age, too, because I'm. actually 4 years older than you. And. when I hit 40, I my life was like, I've. got to change something because I lived. in chaos for so long. And I feel like. from 40 to like 44, you kind of like. learn to start stopping and smelling the. roses. And it's like you almost kind of. like can taste life, if that makes. sense. Like before, it's like you're. just kind of going through the motions. And then it's like once you reach a. certain age, you kind of get to a point. where you're just like, "Wait,

>> I I enjoy doing this or I, you know, like you love doing your dog thing and. like you know, stuff like that." Like. you start to like the little things you. start to enjoy and appreciate a little. bit more. >> Yeah. And you sort of sit in it a little. more. You just. >> That's the word. Yes. >> Yeah. You My manager used to say, "You. don't sit in your life." It's like, I. didn't know how to do that. And. >> I've learn I'm learning how to do that. And I agree. at 40, you just go, >> I really just want to. >> go after the good [ __ ] and not deal with. any of the other noise that doesn't. really matter in my life.

>> And also spend my time, whether it be. personal or professional, >> on things that really. >> add to my life. Like. >> I do love what I do for a living. That's. why I've done it for so long. >> But you can't love it all the time. You. know what I mean? So, it's like taking. moments and and also chasing hobbies and. like doing other forms of art. Like, I. need to just sit down. I don't paint. I'm terrible at it, but I should try. You know what I mean? Like, >> I can't draw a stick figure, so it's.

like just, you know, I ride horses and. like I love that. And it's physical and. it's so good for your mind and spirit. It's like, so taking time to do those. things is important. >> Absolutely. I want horses so bad. We. just finally bought 500 lakers 500 acres. of land and I'm like the first thing I'm. like I'm like can we get can we be like. Noah's Ark? I want two of every animal. Like I just want horses. Yeah. I'm. ready. And so it's. >> going to make it harder to leave though. >> Yeah. Exactly. Well, you know, I always.

tell my husband, I'm like, I love you. I. support you, but you chose this life. I. don't have to go on every single tour. with you. He's like, yes, you do. I'm. like, all right, fine. So, we'll we'll. discuss that, you know, in another 5. years. But you had talked about hobbies. Besides riding horses, what do you do to. kind of get away from all of the chaos. and just the lights, camera, action. besides riding horses? >> That's pretty much kind of the only one. I have time for. Um, I also go. antiquing. Like I go to this place. called Roundtop. It's in Texas and it's.

twice a year and it's um like literally. miles and miles of just any kind of. everything you can think of. It's like. the biggest flea market ever in the. world. That sounds like heaven. We need. to go on tour. >> It's fun. It's a girls trip though for. sure. Like. >> where is this? >> It's in It's like 2 hours from Austin. >> Okay. >> It's I'll I'll just We got to go. >> Okay. No, seriously. >> It's my friends uh Junk Gypsies. They. have um they're like a lifestyle brand. and they sort of are the staple of this.

whole vibe and they have a bed and. breakfast. It's beautiful and um it's. called the Wonder. It's so cute and so. it's a girls thing. We like go and ride. around golf carts and drink wine and buy. old [ __ ]. >> Oh my god. No, I just got into. antiquing. Like we've started doing. that. We actually did a a lot of the. stuff that's in the studio. We went to. an antique store and got and I'm. obsessed. My my stepmom used to do it. when I was younger and I was just like, why do you want old stuff all the time? And now I'm like I crave it. I'm like. >> it has stories. That's Yeah,

>> it does. It it definitely does. And I. don't know, something about going to an. antique store and just browsing through. people's old things is like so. meaningful because you're like, where. was this piece at? Or like who this was. in somebody's home at one time and it. actually meant the world to them or like. maybe it was a centerpiece that brought. them together at dinner every night or. you know like it's just little things. like that. >> Yeah. It's just like I don't know just. something that's simple that you don't. have to think. You know what I mean? >> Yeah. Absolutely. Couldn't agree more. I. love the fact that you and your manager.

are so close because that's the same. with my manager and I and one thing that. I admire about you too is you are so. girl power. I'm the same way and I don't. think a lot of people get to see that. side of you in the public eye but behind. the scenes like everybody knows that. Miranda is just female empowerment. Where does that come from? Where do you. think that stems from? >> Well, thank you for saying that. It is. I I just think it's like there's room. for all of us and we don't have to be. best friends or um fake friends. We can.

just sometimes lift each other up from. afar. >> or sometimes we can really dig in and. kind of join together as a team. I mean, it's hard for women in a lot of ways to. do a lot of the things we're doing, but. we're doing it and we're being great at. it. And I, you know, my manager, my. whole management office is women. And I. feel like. um it's our job, especially when you get. when you've been in something a long. time and you've kind of honed in on your. craft.

>> I feel like it's our duty to like help. the next generation and like be there to. mentor them and. >> to learn from them too, like to stay in. the know of like the new ways to do. things. Yeah. >> That in the music business, I mean, it's. changing. every single day. like how music is. consumed, how the business works, how. the fans are consuming the music. Like. every single part of it is so different. from when I first started and it's. changing every day. So, I'm trying to. learn of like, you know, how everything.

works and to stay in it and to keep. growing and to be inspired, but I can't. do that alone. You know what I mean? >> I feel like it's important for us to. like support each other and. >> respect people that are really being. their authentic self. Like that's my. favorite thing about any human is when. someone's authentically themsel and. really chasing after goals and being who. they are, but also lifting up others, which you're great at, too. You are. really about lifting up other women. And. we figured that out right when we first. met. >> and had dinner. And I was like, you can.

feel it from people. >> Yeah. >> And we were in Italy. We were. celebrating Marian's birthday. And she. has a friend named Elizabeth who's very, very like, I want to be her when I grow. up. parts parts of her. She's just this. most classy, beautiful woman and super. smart and um we were talking about this. exact thing with women of all ages at. the table, just talking about, you know, the competition between women and how. >> it can get really ugly and not so much. in Nashville, but just in life, you. know, in Nashville, we're lucky because.

the country music community is pretty. supportive and and lovely, especially. the women. Um, and but she was saying, you know, there's a difference in. wanting to win and wanting to beat. everybody. >> And that really struck me. I thought I'm. going to take that with me because, >> you know, we can all win. >> We can all win. We're not all trying to. get the same trophy anyway. We're all in. our lanes doing our thing, but try it's. when you start to go, I want to beat. that person that it becomes a different. game. >> A that becomes an inner competition. And.

so yeah, that makes that's actually. beautifully said and thank you for. giving me my flowers. I really. appreciate that. That's one thing that. I've always just loved about you. I. remember the first night that we met, I. told I went home and told Jay, I was. like, I love her. He's like, >> you just had a great dinner and you're. just so down to earth and obviously. really smart and you know who you are. and I just appreciate that about about. anyone, especially someone successful. that al that brings other people along, you know. >> It's really important. >> No, I love that. Do you think that stems. We're going to swing back. Um, we're.

gonna go travel back in time to Long. View. You What was the name of the city. that you grew up in? >> Long View, Texas. >> Long View, Texas. But there's. >> barely a city, but. >> isn't there like a little one that I. cannot I can never. Okay. The Yaya, that's your grand your. mima. Can you take me on that journey? >> Yeah, I I got on a tangent. I didn't. actually answer your question. >> No, you're fine. You're totally fine. >> It So, to answer your question, the I. think the lifting up of other women. comes from there. That's where that's. where it all started was the ya were my.

mom's mom Wanda Coker. Um she was my. naughty. She had this group of. girlfriends and they were like drinking, smoking, gambling like ya like but they. were so strong and they raised me. I. mean, they were just. constantly lifting each other up and. being there for each other's families. >> and fun and sto so many stories and so. many recipes and it just it but it was. like. >> they're not like the the boring kind of.

like grandma hang. It was like they were. wild but they were so inspiring because. they were just who they were and they. would come to my shows and stand in the. pit like at the front like the first. ones on the back rack. >> That's going to be us. That'll be all of. us. >> It'll be us. Yeah. And I'm like I just. that was the first generation of the. women that I grew up around. And then my. mom and her best friends who are. basically my aunts. I have a very small. family. So. >> we have chosen family. And um that was.

the second generation of just all very. successful and very driven and very. strong. Um, and then now I have my own. circle of really great gal pals that are. all following their own passions and. their own dreams, but are there for each. other. And so, you know, um, since I. don't have children of my own, I want to. use that like part of what I've learned. for, you know, younger generation, especially of artists, because nobody. tells you how this goes. Like, nobody. >> sits there and gives you a handbook of.

like, well, when you make it to this. level, this is what's going to happen. And then you're going to have your first. breakdown on week four of this tour. Like no one tells you like. >> those tour breakdowns are are ruthless. >> They're they're real. And no, no one. tells you like what also what to do like. if you've made it. >> or like Yeah. Like it's it's a crazy. world that you can literally go from one. minute nobody knowing who you are to. being thrust into the spotlight. And. like you know, nobody sees the years of.

work it took for you to get thrust into. the spotlight though. and nobody tells. you how to handle that or what to say or. you know we don't all have Marianons in. our corner. So, >> right. So, I we started so I'm part of a. label um a founder of a label called Big. Loud Texas. It's a branch of Big Loud. which I love working with Big Loud in. Nashville. They're just amazing team. >> and um they approached John Randall. who's one of my best friends and um. >> you know coowriter and just we've worked. together for 20 years and um about sort.

of keeping that outlaw movement from. Texas going. I mean, so much of the. music that that influenced all music is. Willie and Whan and the boys. I mean, think about how how much music came out. of Texas that has influenced music over. the years. And absolutely, it's so. important to keep that going. And so, I'm really excited about it for so many. reasons, but mostly because. >> I've been through so much in this. industry and and personally in my life. And I feel like I can be there for the 2.

AM call or I can be there for the hey, I. met with this new manager. What do you. think? Or just I want to just be an. artist for the artist. You know what I. mean? >> It's amazing though because not so not. many people and many females in your. position, especially your position of. power, are willing to give back to the. to the new generation like that. And I. think that you're setting an example and. actually setting creating a standard for. the OGs in the country music to, you.

know, be there and kind of be like a um. I don't want to say coach, but like a. mentor. >> Yeah. And like a sounding board, too. And um and also seeing, you know, we we. only have one artist signed so far cuz. we're brand new, but his name is Dylan. Gosset. He's from Austin and he's out. there killing it. But like just seeing. the fire in the eyes of like someone. just starting. >> it reignited your fire, you know? It's. like, >> oh man, I remember the day of like it's. all right. It's all in front of you at.

this point. And like the world is. waiting for you to just come in come. into the world and fly. And I feel like. being around that kind of energy. >> reminds me of that I need to still have. that energy when I so when I do reach a. level of burnout or I'm exhausted or. >> you know when you do something for a. really long time you can't love it every. day like we said but. >> um I think being around that new fire. and young people that are so hungry and. so inspired is is like I want some of.

that you know and I want to give them. some of the. >> the wisdom and some of the uh reminders. of enjoy enjoy the ride. >> because there's a lot of things that I. don't remember because I was just going. so fast, you know, >> and you have to stop sometimes and like. like you said, like we're just now. going, "Oh, I could just look around and. absorb what and and like live in what. I'm doing right now. It's a big moment. or a small moment, whatever it is, but I. want to. >> just be there for anybody that just. needs a sounding board of like cuz I've.

been there, you know? I think whoever. you bring under their wing is under your. wing is going to fly because I mean who. better to have guide them through this. industry than you because you have been. through everything that you could. possibly think of in this industry. Your. life has played out in the public. Your. music is just beautiful. Like no matter. what everything you touch turns to gold. like it. You are just um you're an. artist that every other artist should. strive to be like because it's like you.

pour your heart and soul on these pages. and it resonates with everybody who it. doesn't matter if they're a country fan, pop fan, like all genres. Everybody. knows who Miranda Lambert is. So, I. think that for you to have the attitude. that you do and want to help these. people that are coming up, they're just. so lucky to have you. >> That's so sweet of you to say. I. appreciate that. And I know because I. know you and your husband, I know you. see all that goes into the the art part. of it. Everything else is the business.

like. >> but the art part of it is where it. starts and ends and that takes almost. everything out of you if you're doing it. right, >> you know, and then the work begins. >> Yeah. >> So it's like, >> you know what I mean? And so I I I know. you see it day in and day out with with. Jason and like just everything y'all. having to do. And I, you know, I don't I. don't think people understand. um that the the pouring out of the heart. and the living like a lot of the stuff.

we write that's the songs that resonate. with you, especially the sad like the. sad heartbreak ones, >> we had to live through that to get that. on the page like and so you know. sometimes I don't think people realize. like this became a song because it was a. laugh moment. Is it hard for you to. relive those life moments time and time. again? Like if you've had to write a. song about heartbreak or something that. you've gone through, you know, when. you're going through it, I know that it. t the from Pillar to Post, like it takes. some time, months before, sometimes.

years before songs come out. Do they. still affect you the same way they did. when you wrote them? You know, I think. it's interesting like on this new. record, um it's called Postcards from. Texas and it's I went home to make this. record because I just felt like I needed. to go back to the root of it all because. I was. >> I just um left a label that I'd been on. for 20 years and signed with Republic. and with Big Loud and um Republic New. York. And so I felt this like new energy. of like a whole new team that was so.

excited about the art and and you know. after 20 years in the business they're. like more excited than anyone's ever. been that I've worked with. So it. reignited my fire. But I really wanted. to go back to like the root of what. where I started and what like the honky. tones in Texas are how I got my grit. It's where I've learned my chops. You. know what I mean? So I wanted to like go. back and start there for this new start. there again I guess. um for this new chapter of my life and. career. Um but I have learned like some.

of the songs I cut like one of the. toughest songs on the record that that I. was almost 10 years old. It's called Run. and it's very raw and it was a a moment. in my life and it's a solo right. So. with a solo right you can't hide. anywhere. Everybody knows it's you know. what I mean? You can't be like well it's. my coowriter story or whatever. >> Yeah. You can't blame it on you can't. gaslight. >> Exactly. So, like, you know, that part. is like I felt like it the that song is.

just an example, but it's one that I. wasn't ready to sing before. But I also know that you don't have to. live every song you write. I feel like. once you get to a certain point, I take that back. Every sad song, like I. I think I've been sad enough that I can. revisit like. >> if that makes any sense. I don't think. it's healthy to try to stay tortured so. you can be good. No. >> You know what I mean? I think at the. beginning you think that in your 20s. you're like tortured artists and there. is an element to that that that is true.

and um also when you're young you have. to like live out some stuff to be able. to write about it right. >> and really sell it life lessons. >> Yeah. You have to be able to. >> when I hear your stories I know that you. live them like it's you can you tell it. with your truth. And so, um, but I did. learn like in the last, I don't know, probably decade that like, okay, you. don't have to go and like find the. sadness and the pain. Just you have your. art. Like if you've been through enough, you can revisit that. And it's.

interesting to me too because sometimes. I'm reminded as I'm singing in the. studio which is hard for me sometimes. like when you're going when you're. tracking in the studio and like you're. in the moment. >> and then two months later you got to go. back and stand in a vocal booth and like. revisit that emotion whatever song it. was. You know what I mean? So you have. to go back there. Um, but then I am. reminded that's why they call it a. recording artist because you got to get. in character. >> of whatever that song is, funny or sad.

or burn their house down or whatever. you're doing, you got to kind of sell it. in that moment. >> Yeah. I always call it turning trauma. into art. >> Yeah. >> Cuz literally that's what you guys are. doing. And I think that's what any. creator, whether it's m music, online. influencer, which I hate that freaking. word, but um I think anybody who pours. themselves out on any sort of platform, you're turning whatever trauma you've. gone through, big or small, into some. sort of art. >> Yeah, I agree with that. And I think. it's important because it makes people. >> feel not alone. Yeah.

>> Whatever they're going through, like. >> it makes everybody be on the kind of. same playing field, you know? It's like. >> everybody has a life. Everybody has. horrible stuff that's happened, have. broken relationships. They also have a. lot of highs that we can talk about. Absolutely. And you know, I think we. learned that too is. >> um it's really good to sit in the in the. high moments. I don't think I sat in any. of it for a while. I just didn't I. didn't take time to really,

>> you know, like spend enough time in the. pain or spend enough time in the joy, >> right? >> And I'm learning to do that a lot better. now. Isn't it crazy how we do that as. women? Being a woman is such an evolving. journey. >> Oh yeah. >> It's wild. Like I if I could give any. advice to 25year-olds is just stop. >> Stop. Soak it all in. Like just enjoy. every freaking moment of it because it. goes by in such a blink of an eye. Um. can we go back to your parents because I.

heard a really cute story that your. parents took you on a stakeout when you. were like 3 years old. My parents were. private investigators. Yes. My dad was a. police officer and my mom was a PI. >> and my dad My mom talked my dad into. being her um partner. So they were. Lambert and Lambert. I'm like real. clever guys. Like do better. I'm a. songwriter. That's not acceptable. Um. >> it's like alpha and omega. >> Exactly. They were um so they had a PI. firm my whole childhood and they mostly.

did divorce and child custody which is. where I think I got a lot of my early. songs because I'm like 17 writing. divorce songs. It's like. >> you know what I mean? It's like. >> you had so much you know material. So. but yeah, my mom took me on my first. job. Her. >> she had a job that was like going to I. think it was Padre Island which is like. a beach in Kentucky. Yeah. and um she. needed she had to be make friends with. this like um lady and her. three-year-old. So she was like, "Well,

perfect. I have a three-year-old." And. so she's like brings me on as my first. plane ride and like I guess we got the I. guess the person they were working for. won the case because I became best. friends with this three-year-old and my. mom like knew all the all the dirt on. this lady. So it was I mean all my whole. life I one time I was I think I was in. high school. school had me in high. school and I was a cheerleader and. >> my mom took me on a job where I had to. put my cheerleading uniform on and. pretend to sell cookies for the. cheerleading squad. >> Yeah. >> And she was like, "When you get in their. house, um, ask to use their bathroom.

when they're getting their money out and. then when you get in there, see if. there's any liquor cuz they're not. supposed to be drinking." I'm like, >> "I'm 15." Like, >> you're like, "Mom, >> I know." I'm like, "I should be at cheer. practice right now." She's like, "No, this is what we're doing." So, like, it. just was normal for us. And when I tell. people all that, they're like, "It's so. interesting." Cuz it was, but she would. pick me and Luke up from school and her. like tinted window shady suburban. And. like we. >> Not the shady suburban. >> Yeah. And she'd be like, "Here's your. coloring books and a snack. We're going.

to be staking out for about 5 hours.". >> Could you get anything past your. parents? >> Oh, absolutely not. >> Yeah. I would think having Pis as. parents, you there's nothing you could. do. >> No. I tried to sneak out one time to go. to like a bonfire party because we live. in BFE, Texas. Like that's what you do. >> I went to a pastor party one time. >> Same thing. >> Okay. >> And my mom was there. >> What? >> I was like, "Well, that's that." There. goes that. >> Did she know that you were going there? That's why she was there. >> Yeah. And then she was Yeah. She was. like, I mean, there's just no getting.

away with anything, which I didn't. really try. I was a really good I grew. up in like little Baptist Lindell, Texas. like football Friday nights, church on Sunday mornings. Yeah. >> You know, like real. >> all American. >> Yeah. All American childhood. >> And although my parents were PI's the. whole time like that's that was the. difference. But. >> it's kind of like the d the double life. type thing. >> It really was. Cuz my mom would be like. on a surveillance all night and then. we'd come home and she'd make us cookies. like. >> from after school. You know what I mean?

So it was seemed normal even though the. dinner conversations were like literally. all about child custody and divorce and. it was all these highowered like. attorneys in Dallas and all this stuff. But at the time Luke and I were like we. don't really it's just our parents job. you know. >> literally. So it's like it just you just. grew up with it so it just didn't even. phase you. >> As an adult though people were like they. were what? They were proud of us you. know so it was interesting and I do. think I got a lot of a lot of material. We we also took in um when I was about. 14, my parents started taking in abused.

women and children. >> um that were, you know, victims of. domestic violence situations cuz with my. dad's law enforcement background, it. just kind of made sense. And. >> um so from like 14 until out of high. school, I've shared my room with moms. and daughters of whoever was in need at. the time. And I really think that I. learned a lot about life. I mean, because I was kind of sheltered in a way. >> and I had this like really sweet small.

town childhood. >> I saw the ugly up close and personal, you know, in our own home. Like. >> my parents, I wake up in the morning, my. parents have been out all night like. rescuing this mom and their kids or. whatever. And so. >> I feel like my early music, Gunpowder. and Lead specifically, um, I really. absorbed a lot. Like I was old enough. then to like really understand like oh. man this this world can be a really. really bad place and. >> um you know see women that were just. really at the bottom of their barrel and.

still have the strength to like get out. and try to pick themselves up and get. back on their feet. And so I think a lot. of the early songwriting stuff I had. came from the stories and the. experiences that I had with those. families. >> You've done it so wonderfully though. I. feel like you have embodied when I said. when I was introducing you, you know, the queen of like feminine rage, but. it's like you make rage so hot. Like. it's crazy. It's like, >> you know, seriously,

>> use that. That needs to be on a t-shirt. >> No, literally you do. And it's like, you. know, because you have this sweet like. just sugary voice, but you're packing a. powerful message. And I remember the. first time I heard Gunpowder and Lead. what I was just like this I hadn't even. gone through a domestic violence. relationship at that time. I think. gunpowder and lead dropped when like. 2006. seven. >> maybe. Yeah, seven think. >> seven. Okay. Yeah. So, I hadn't even. gone through it, but I know when I went. through my domestic violence. relationship, that was my anthem, dude. I was like, I'm going to burn this. [ __ ] down. Poopy.

It used to get me hype all the time. >> I love that. And I'm glad. And I think. that um also the ones I saw like and we. you know this is a whole situation, but. that go back. I think that's where my. fire started because I was like, >> I literally am gonna go burn your. husband's house down for you. Like the. stories I would hear would be so awful. and then they would try to give it. another chance. And I know that's such a. such an issue and such a case by case. situation, but at 16 I couldn't.

understand. then like why why we you got out like. can't we want to keep you here? And so I. think my like as you say my rage started. when I was like well then I'll just go. burn the house down then she can't go. back. >> You know what I mean? It's like I think. like I didn't know I didn't know how to. process all of that. But living with. those women and their their daughters. that were just like. >> like I said just in the most horrible. situation and like it also made me. really thankful for a a family that that.

was fine with Luke and I being exposed. to that. like. >> Mhm. >> you know, my mom didn't try to shelter. us to the point where we couldn't handle. that. And it taught us both a lot. >> I think it's beautiful because, you. know, some people might have looked at. that and been like, >> you know, some kids don't know how to. deal with so much emotion coming into. their own home. But for you to be able. to look at it and use it kind of like as. your muse for music is actually a. testament of how big your heart is. to.

be able to see people that are suffering. um that your parents brought in and to. be able to just kind of like make an. anthem and music and just paint a. picture of a life that you hadn't lived. but you got to witness. >> Yeah. And I actually wrote gunpowder and. led with a good friend of mine, Heather. Little, and she had been in a domestic. violence um relationship. And so that. was I actually wrote down the the idea. um when I was taking my concealed. handgun class. >> when I was 18. My dad's a gun safety.

instructor, police officer and all that. So he was like, "You're going to get. your concealed. We're he was teaching. the class and all the things." I love. that. >> Yeah. And so and so, but we were, you. know, and they teach you all the parts. of the gun. And we were right in the. middle of having those families at our. house. And um I had started writing. songs with this girl named Heather. Little, and she she was amazing. She is. amazing. Um and she, you know, had two. babies and she was like just living in a. little farmhouse, but she was an amazing. songwriter. and I met her at a. songwriting competition and I was like,

"Can we make music together?" Like, >> especially when you're little small. towns and you don't really know what. you're doing yet, you know. >> Um, >> and we um I was taking my conceal class. and they were like talking about the. parts of the gun and I was like, "Gunpowder and lead, not sugar and. spice. That's what we're going to. write.". >> Yes. >> You know what I mean? And so it was. really it was really special to get to. write that with her because it was her. story and I had seen it so close with. other families. >> Mhm. Writing music has been a huge part.

of your life because you write you've. been writing songs with your dad since. you were little. Correct. >> Yep. >> You guys I think I read something where. like he would take out the guitar and. you would literally fall asleep in. between him and the guitar. When did you know that you were going to. take this serious and like college. wasn't your thing? When did you know. that you were just going to be a star? That you wanted to be a star or did you. ever set out to be a star? >> Well, uh, Dad was Dad is a singer. songwriter. He's really good. He had a.

he had a band when he was a cop. They. were all cops in the band and they. called it Contra Band, which is. ridiculous. They were narcotics. officers. >> I love that. >> So, it was like pretty freaking clever, honestly. >> I got We got to Google this. Yeah. >> Is there anything on Google with that? >> I don't know. It was way back in the. day. Probably not. >> We'll look and see if there is. >> And so he So I really think I mean I got. my kind of grew up with just thinking. like I thought all the hag songs dad.

would sing were his songs, you know what. I mean? >> But he's a great singer songwriter. And. um. >> and I guess I just I wasn't very good in. school. Like I wasn't I barely made it. on grades. I didn't like it. I'd learned. differently. I'm a creative. Like now. >> looking back, like I needed Adderall or. something, but my mom's like, "Don't put. her on medication. Let her be creative.". Like back then it was like we didn't. know what all that was. You know what I. mean? >> I know. And I I I appreciate parents. like that. Not saying anything to. parents who do put their kids on. medication, but I'm one of those parents.

now, too. I just don't believe that, you. know, let your kid be creative and see. how their brain develops and then if you. know, once they're old enough, then let. them decide that on their own, you know. >> Yeah. Well, I'm thankful my mom because. now I know I'm just like. >> over here doing this, you know what I. mean? Um, but I just was like. starting to think like I what am I going. to do? Like live in this small little. town and I don't want to go to college. I'm not going to be good at college for. sure. And I entered this contest called.

the It was called the True Value Country. Showdown. >> And it was in Long View. with this club. called the Rio Palm Mile and I'd just. heard an ad for it on the radio when I. was working in the garden and my mom I. went inside and was like I was 16 and I. was like I want to um I want to enter. this contest and I I'd always just been. like they always tried to get me to sing. and needed to be my idea cuz I was a. teenage girl so like anything their idea. I was like no absolutely not you know.

>> um and so I just decided to do this. contest and people were like she's. really good like like she has something. and it was the first thing that ever. came naturally to me like like really. good. I say that lightly. I was 16, but. I had something, you know what I mean? >> Especially for like the small town. little competition. It was like, oh, people were paying attention to it. So, it wasn't just like mom and dad going, "You can sing, girl." You know what I. mean? >> Um, and I think that's what just started.

it. I was like, "What if I could do. this?" Like, so I started um playing. guitar. My dad taught me three chords. It's all you need. country music. >> I've heard that too. I think Jay's told. me that too. >> And um I wrote my first song and it was. like. it was like my end of my junior year and. I just went to my parents and was like I. I really want to chase this. Like I. don't I don't want to go to college. And. dad's like, "Well, if I use the money. that I saved for college for you, that's. all there is and there's no plan B. So.

like you're going to have to make this. work because if not, you're on your own. like we'll put that money we set aside. towards this career that you want to. chase but then it runs out that's it. So. you got to make this like if you're. serious, you know, and I was and so my. mom started being my booking agent. >> I love I love how supportive they were. though. >> They were they were the kind of parents. that were like you can be anything you. want to be. >> and I'm so thankful cuz my brother is. like brilliant and he is a techie and he.

went to UT and he's validictorian like. oh we love that. >> Yeah. Exactly. And I'm over here like. I'm going to play some country tunes. Like. >> um but I started playing bars in Texas. anywhere that would let me play. My dad. would pay people to let me play. I would. play during set changes. I mean my mom. drove me around in an expedition. Like. have you ever seen Cole Miner's Daughter. the movie? >> Yeah. Uh I haven't seen it but I do. know. >> Okay. Well, it's Loretta's story and. they're like driving around in a car and. she's going to radio stations. That's. exactly what it was. Like bologn. sandwiches like just trying to trying to.

figure something out. And um and then. you know so my dad saw that I was. serious and it was like okay we're all. doing this as a family. >> Oh. >> and my little brother was 14 and he. built me my first website. He still runs. our website today. >> So it was it was really like I don't. know how people I don't know how people. without supportive families do it. It's. got to be that 10 times harder. And I'm. so thankful that I had a family that was. behind me. You know. >> that's where your loyalty comes from. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. Like you have such you're such a.

loyal woman. And I think it stems from. just your family just rallying and just. being there for each other. >> So take me on this journey. When did you. decide to come to Nashville? Cuz you. know, I know you're a Texas girl. I'm a. Texas girl, too. I was born in Houston, but you know, we all eventually leave, but we always come back. When did you. make that big decision? I mean, you're. you're driving around with mom shopping. songs, I'm assuming, to radio stations. When does. >> that click that you're like, you know.

what? I think I'm going to go to. Nashville. >> Um I got auditioned for well American. Idol was happening at the time. It was. the first season so it was Kelly. Clarkson. >> Mhm. >> She had just won and she's a Texas girl. and my mom was like you could do that. You can you got to go try out for Idol. and I wasn't interested in it because I. wasn't a pop singer. And. >> back in those days of idol it was like. pretty pop driven and they didn't let. you do originals and I was writing. songs. >> No. And I'd been playing the bar scene. for almost three years. And I had a.

little independent album called Miranda. Lambert. >> that I that I made in Dallas. And it. >> Lambert and Lambert. >> Yeah. >> And it was like 10 It was 10 songs and. we made it in Dallas. It was just a. little I was selling out the back of my. mom's car. We printed 3,000. Like. >> let's not brush over the fact that. you're playing in Texas bars, okay? Like. the Texas bar scene was rowdy back then. >> They don't They weren't letting girls. play at all. Yeah, >> that's why I was playing during set. changes or like until I started being. like that's how I learned my chops. though. Like I learned immediately how.

to deal with a drunk [ __ ] and. immediately how to sing way louder over. clanking beer bottles. Like. >> like I'm going to have to quit doing. ballads. I'm going to have to do some. rockers, you know? So I learned a lot in. those days of like honky tonking because. that is not a glamorous scene and it's. not a female empowering scene. >> It's way different than Nashville honky. tons. I feel like Nashville honky tons. are a little bit glamorous and the ones. in Texas are a little bit more a lot. more seedy. I don't know if you ever.

watched um I Wrote the Bullet Ghillies. That's kind of like what it reminds me. of. >> Yeah. I'm wearing a ghilly shirt on the. cover of my record. >> I I grew up wearing one. Not I Wrote Not. the movie. Uh what is it called? It's. Urban Cowboy with John Travolta and. Space. Yeah. Hell yeah. >> That was my that I grew that was my love. story growing up. You know, like pe girl. little girls grew up watching like. Cinderella and Sleeping Beauty. I grew. up watching Urban Cowboy. >> Oh yeah. Same. Same. >> But it was glam. That was glamorous to. me though. That's the funny part. You. know what I mean? >> Me too. Yeah. >> Um so I I a new a little show popped up.

um called Nashville Star. >> and I auditioned. My mom was like I. think you should audition and I was like. I don't know cuz like those things are. rigged and will I be like some little I. don't know. I just wasn't sure of like. what and contests. All the contests that. I had ever done were like weird and. shady and I was just like I don't really. >> I can do this. It's just going to take. me a really long time. I can do this. I. can grind this out. And. >> my mom's like, "Well, what if though? What if you got could get seen by like.

the person you're supposed to be seen by. to get you further in your career. >> cuz I'm playing for like $200 a night.". You know what I mean? >> And so I auditioned in Houston. I did. not track cuz I had a terrible attitude. and I just did the wrong song and it. showed up with a shitty attitude and my. mom was like, "We got" and I didn't make. the top 30. >> Actually, that was Dallas. I tried out. in Dallas. Didn't make the top 30. >> And. >> why did you have an attitude? You just. didn't want. >> I just didn't want to be there. No. >> And we got in the car and my mom like.

didn't start the car. She just like. turned and looked at me, you know, like. when No one wants their mom to do that. ever. She like turned and looked at me. and it's like silent in the car and. we're like this close. She's like, "That. was terrible. You wasted my time. I. drove all the way to Dallas for you to. audition and you wasted everybody in. there's time. You wasted your time. You. wasted God's time and my time. And we're. not doing that.". >> She goes, "And I know you don't want to. do this, but I also don't want to drive. you around in this expedition for the. next 10 years. So like, so you're going. to go to Houston and you're going to.

give it your go and if you give 100%. I'll never mention it again." And. >> I was like, "Okay." So, we drove to. Houston and I had a attitude adjustment. and I sang an Emmy Lou Harris song and I. ended up winning the whole thing for. Houston and um got on National Star and. um so that was like college like I was. almost 20 and or I was 19 and like my. mom dropped me off at DFW. I'd never. flown by myself like ever. And so I was. like crying and I had like my comforter.

like like I was going to some dorm. somewhere. >> Emotional support blanket. >> Yes. Because I was like moving to. Nashville pretty much. You know what I. mean? And so. >> so when you won that and that meant you. had to move to Nashville cuz. >> when I won for Houston um I went on to. regionals which were in Nashville and. got the top 10 for the contestants. So I. got on the show. >> and we all lived in a house. It was a. reality show. So we all lived in a house. together. >> Gotcha. >> And I'm like 19 from Lindell, Texas. I I. was the youngest by 10 years. >> I was like, I don't even know what I'm. getting into. But.

>> they just thrust you into the spotlight. >> Kind of did. And I had never been on TV. before. And so that was my like intro. and I got third in the competition which. was better because um the contracts for. those things aren't the best. >> Yeah. >> So like getting first, you're like. locked in. So third was good. But I got. a record deal out of it with Sony that I. was on for 20 years. So. >> that's amazing. I never knew I never. knew the reality story part, but. >> yeah. Well, it the show didn't last and. it's not,

>> you know, it was really didn't all it. did for me was exactly what I wanted it. to do, which was. >> Tracy Gershon was um working at Sony and. she was like, >> "This girl has something. This is. authentic." And. >> you know, that's my favorite part about. anyone is authenticity. And so, >> um, I was just my true self on that show. and it really got me exactly where I. needed to And then it was another 3. years before I had a record deal or any. or had a record out or anything. But. >> when did your first album drop? 2005.

>> 2005. >> And that was Kerosene. >> Yeah. >> You came out the gate swinging. >> You did your homework, girl. >> Oh, listen baby. I You know, you're one. of my favorite humans. I wanted to learn. about you. So Kerosene Drops, I mean, you are literally just pretty much. thrown into country music and it takes. off from there. How are you feeling? Like was is dad happy first of all? >> Oh, my parents are like still I mean. they're so proud. They're all they're. proud but it was man it was a ride. It.

was a journey. Like it was scary because. >> we didn't really know what we were. doing. I mean you know what I mean? It's. like Texas has its own scene and we kind. of knew what to do there but like this. was we're make we're doing it. >> And yeah, Kerosene did really well. I. mean, it sold a million copies and um it. it kind of launched me into it and then. I just went on the road forever. >> Forever. >> As soon as that happened, I went on tour. with Keith Urban in 2005. >> We love Keith. Keith, it was so funny. because we saw Keith at one of the award.

shows and I was like, I don't get the. appeal of Keith. And then I saw him on. stage and I was like, get it. I get it. I get it now. >> That guitar in his hand, girl. >> Yeah. No, totally get it. >> A whole different ball game. >> Yeah, I totally get it. He taught me. like we came straight out of like the. bars in Texas to Keith Urban tour and. their show is incredible. Like he's an. incredible artist. >> Yeah. And a show performer. >> Yes. And I was like. >> the first show I called my whole band. like we had a band meeting and I don't. even think we had like this broke down. bus and I was like meeting on the.

brokeown bus right now. We have to watch. a show every night because this isn't. just like bars in Texas anymore. This is. like the big guns. Was it arenas that. you so you went straight from bars in. Texas to. >> arena? That was my first tour and I was. like, "Oh, this is how it's done.". >> Goodness. >> And so we watched Keith every night like. we had to we just had to really. >> I literally found my band at Guitar. Center in Greenville, Texas. Like we. came out of nowhere. So like it was. like, "Oh, we have to this is the big.

stage. This is it.". >> And so and then I went on tour with. George Straight and by P. I mean, I just. was on the road. >> literally. Well, still am. >> Yeah. No, literally. >> I mean, that's but that's what launched. it and I I literally just. did it like old school. Like, we just we. opened opened, you know, we had 15. minutes and then we'd get in the middle. slot and then finally became a. headliner. But, I mean, it's just been. the road since then. >> It's been amazing. It's been beautiful. to watch because I've been around. watching your career since it started.

So, I just I just think it's amazing. Um, can we talk a little bit about your. new album, uh, Postcards from Texas? Damn it, Randy. K. Somebody made a. special contribution to this, uh, to the. lyrics on the album. >> Yes, they did. Somebody um, my husband. got his first cut on this on a record. First cut on any record ever. >> Yes. >> And disclaimer, my husband is a retired. police officer, not a songwriter. >> Yeah. And we're going to get into how.

you guys met in a second, but I just I. want to hear this story. >> literally. So during 2020, we like. obviously everybody's at home board and. I'm a songwriter. So like let's write. songs like and so he was like I don't. know how to write songs. I was like yeah. you can you can do it you know. So we. start I get the guitar out we start. >> writing and he's actually really good. Like he. >> he has some good really good lines. I. mean being a New York police officer. he's lived enough life to like have some. good lines in there you Absolutely. >> Um and so we would write a little bit.

We probably wrote like four or five just. little tunes during co and then um and. then like one day he was just talking. [ __ ] And our friend Jesse Frasier who. is your friend too. >> Yeah. They come on tour with us. >> Yeah. I know. >> Those are the writers that he's up with. all night. >> Jessie Joe. >> Yes. Oh, I love Jesse Joe. >> And Jesse Alexander. >> Yes. All the Jesse's. Jess. We love all. the Jess. Um he was talking [ __ ] to. Jesse Frasier and was like, you know, he. was like, "Riding's not that hard. It's. easy." Jesse was like, "Oh, okay." Yeah.

So he made Brendan come in and do a. literal ride with me and Jesse and. Brendan. Like he had tracks pulled up. and he made Brendon sit there. He came. from the golf course. He was in his golf. outfit and he was like, we were there. for like four and a half hours writing. I mean, it's it's a lot. And he was. like, >> "Oh, it is really hard.". >> No, it's work. >> He taught him a lesson. >> Yeah. when you sit in a WR or like when. my husband does those writers camps like. I'm like how does your brain my brain. would explode. >> it does sometimes exhausting.

>> yeah I wouldn't be able to put two words. together by the end of the day like yeah. exactly. >> I mean I can't I'm just like but anyway. so that happened and we got a great song. out of it so now he's just like I'm a. songwriter okay whatever but um. >> we love that for Bren. >> Exactly he's one of those people that's. down for anything and he also is good at. everything which is annoying. >> um and So, getting ready for this. record, John Randall and I were. co-producing it and um we're sitting. there doing like pre-production, which.

we were drinking tequila, talking about. the music really is what we were doing. >> And he got the guitar out. Every time. that happens, we're going to write a. song. It's just how our chemistry is. and we kind of started talking about. like, you know, leaving Sony and signing. with a new record label and really just. like talking about having a situation. that doesn't serve you anymore and. moving on from that and what a fire it. lights under you and like how you know. when you need to close the door on. something. >> And John Randall's my buddy, but his.

name is actually Randy and so we always. say damn it Randy to him. >> That's a great merch too by the way. And. so we started writing this song and. Brendan kept popping in while he was. watching football and I was like, "Are. we doing this or are you like in or out? You're have to turn the game off." Like. you pick a side. Pick a side. And so he. >> You're a songwriter now, dude. >> Exactly. You're a songwriter, so get. your pen out. >> Yeah. >> So he we started writing it together and. he wrote some of the greatest lines in. the song. I mean, he really And J.R. was. looking at me like, "Dang, he's killing.

it." Like and so it was it was really. special actually because also the. situation I wrote the song about Brennan. is my husband so he's had to hear me. [ __ ] about it for so long that he kind. of knew the story better than I did. >> right. >> you know so he had the same emotion in. it that I did and so I'm real proud of. him and. >> he's super excited about it too like. when we cut it in the studio he didn't. he wasn't there all day and. >> he came in in the afternoon and I was. like I want to play you something and so. the whole band like knew he'd written it.

so we were all just staring staring at. him. We're like I'm like like push play. We push play. He's like he won't say it. but he got a little misty eyed. He was. like you got my song. >> Like it was awesome. So it's it's one of. my favorites on the record. >> I love that. What can we expect from. Postcards from Texas? Is there anything. different or are we going to get, you. know, the spicy Miranda? Are we going to. get the lover girl Miranda? Cuz your. ballads are just as beautiful as the. spicy stuff. like what what is what does. this embody on this album?

>> You know what it's in country especially. like we kind of do like every two or. three year album cycles. >> So I feel like every record I've ever. made has been like kind of a um a. snapshot of like where I was in those. two or three years sort of like as life. progressed. >> But this record feels like two decades. worth of information a little bit. It's. why I called it Postcards from Texas. because. >> number one it felt like home. It sounds. like home. It's very honky tonk. It's. like back to the root of everything I've.

ever loved and that has influenced me. But it's also. >> there's all of it. Like I I put Damn it. Randy and Wranglers in my set um the. last couple of weekends and it feels. like right up next to Kerosene or. Gunpowder or Mama's Broken Heart. It. feels like those songs could have been. on any record I ever made. So, I feel. like there's something from. every kind of period of my life in a. way. Um,

>> and some of the songs are old, you know, I've written about a decade ago and they. just needed to find their home now cuz. I'm ready to sing them now. >> Um, and some are songs my friends wrote. And, you know, I think there's an. emotion for every or there's a song for. every emotion on this record. There's. fun, there's nostalgic, there's. heartbreak, there's Burn Your House. Down, there's I'm. >> excited. >> frustration with Randy. Like there's. just. >> Everybody's got a Randy in their life. >> Yeah, absolutely. >> I'm excited. And it drops uh September.

13th, correct? Yeah. So, everybody. listening to this podcast, go get that. album. I wanted to circle back to you. and Brendan. How did you guys meet? Tell. take me on this journey with your love. story because I know the world is so. curious about you guys. And I've got to. see you guys in person and I think it's. adorable. I feel like you guys are like. yin and yang and just kind of like. balance each other. >> We really are. We're really we're really. best friends honestly and it's, you. know, a girl from Lindell, Texas and a. guy from Staten Island, New York. It's. like just happen stance that we even.

cross paths. We met in the city. Brennan. was a cop and I was doing Good Morning. America and we kind of crossed paths and. we met up at after our show. I was there. with Pistol Annies. Oh, I love. >> my girl, my gal band. >> I love the festival. >> And we were doing a song called I Got My. Name Changed Back from. >> when I had to change my name back from. when I got divorced, which takes a very. long time. >> And so we wrote a song about it and we. were doing it on the show. And um on the. on America and um we just crossed paths.

and he came to the show and. >> when you guys crossed paths like did did. you check him out? Like. >> Well, my friend Angelina, my bandmate, she was eight months pregnant and she. was wearing giant heels. She was. towering over everyone and she was like. standing there like frustrated because. she's like in heels pregnant on the. street in New York. >> and she was looking around and she was. like, "Oh, there's a cop over there and. he's hot. >> Hot cop, everyone. Hot cop." Like like. tapping us on the shoulders and we're. like, "Yeah, he's cute." But it's 8:00. in the morning. We've been up doing glam.

since 3:30. Like. >> I can't be bothered. >> All I care about is my look in the back. of my eyelids right now cuz we had a. show that night. >> and my security. invited him. They kind of knew some of. the same people. So, my security team. invited him to the show and we gave him. one ticket. No, plus one. >> I love that. And he still came. >> He came by himself and we met up after. the show. I didn't even see him before. the show. We met up after and just kind. of hung out and talked and I didn't. really know. There wasn't like an agenda. really. It was just like, >> yeah, >> hey, nice to meet you. I was wearing.

like a Whan Jennings t-shirt and he's. like in his you. >> gold cross. Like I'm like, this is going. to be weird. But he was super cool. And. um we talked and then we just kept in. touch and we wrote each other literal. letters like. >> like old school and um. >> that's sweet. >> It is. It's like. >> that's actually really brought me on. >> I was like do you want to be pen pals? He was like like write letters with a. pen and I was like yeah he's 8 years. younger so that was like really. mind-blowing too. >> Yeah. Jay's 5 years younger than me. So. >> I was like yeah sometimes people.

actually write things down on paper and. put them in an envelope and send them. all texting and so um we just hit it off. like we're just very we're very. different but we come from the same. background like he's from law. enforcement and first responder family. all his family's cops and firemen. >> and so is mine and so that just felt. like homey like that felt like we came. from the same cut from the same cloth. >> even though we're from like New York and. Texas. >> Yankee and Southerner. >> Exactly. Exactly. But also, I feel like. we have the same mentality from both of.

those places, like. >> super sweet, but like don't mess with us. and if you don't like us, we really. don't care. >> Yeah. >> You know, and so our attitude sort of. like they aligned. And he's someone in. my life that is not a yes person. I. don't believe in surrounding yourself. with yes people at all. And I don't do. that. I mean, >> my friends and family and my management. team and everyone in my life is like. truth tellers and they don't I don't I. don't think it's healthy mentally. >> It keeps you honest.

>> It sure does. I don't like that that you. know I just don't think it's healthy for. people to surround themselves with. people that are. >> just agreeable or not in it for the. right reasons or something. You know, >> I wouldn't want that anyways. I want. somebody to be like, "No, you're [ __ ]. up right now or you could do this better. or you know. >> 100%. I think it's important and um. Brendan's just very honest. I mean, he's. a harsh New Yorker and I like that. because he just tells it like it is. He. doesn't sugarcoat. He doesn't he calls. me on my [ __ ] and I want someone like.

that in my life. But he's also super. supportive. >> It's also essential to growth. You know, you're never going to grow if somebody's. just letting you do something over and. over. >> You and Jay seem that way. Like you. really balance each other. Like when. I've been around y'all together and. >> just even seeing from afar, I just feel. like it's really it's genuine and it's. honest. >> Yeah. You know, >> well, it's like you said, we're best. friends. Him and I have been through so. much [ __ ] and it's like. >> half of it's not pretty. And you know, I.

talk about it on my podcast all the. time. Like we've been through some [ __ ]. and there's nothing that that man could. do that I would ever just never, you. know, want to work through with him. Like I just love him. That's my person. And I feel like that's how you and. Brendan are too. >> It is. I I told him like I'm I'm I'm a. ninja for you. Like I will fight through. anything with you. And I feel like. that's so important. And I think, you. know, >> going through other relationships, you. learn through those things. And you. learn what's important and you learn. about communication.

>> Yes. >> And what you did do and what you didn't. do. And so I think, you know, I came. into this marriage with such a a a. strong sense of like what I want and. what I want to be. >> for someone and a partner that I want to. be and the partner that I need him to. be. >> Yeah. >> And you know, voicing that number one. and communicating all of the things. right away, not. >> not harboring resentment or not telling. them right away is like something that's. so important to us. It it's important in. any relationship because too many.

relationships harbor resentment and then. that just creates distance and when you. have distance in a relationship that's. when people drift apart. >> Yeah, for sure. And also when you have. distance physically like. >> Brennan's back in New York a lot and I'm. on the road and it's like you you can't. have distance emotionally and. physically. That's not going to work. >> No. Jay and I have a twoe rule where. like we don't go more than two weeks. without seeing each other. Um we've been. we've had that rule since we first got. together and we've stuck by it. There's. been a couple times where I've had to. like go over two and a half weeks.

because our schedules have been busy. But as soon as you know I can I get. straight to him and. >> I think it's important to really. reconnect. You know, >> it is. I just want to bring up the fact. that you were the first uh female that. had a Broadway bar open. >> Yes, ma'am. >> I mean, come on, girl. >> Yes, girl. >> Yeah, we that's I'm very proud of that. I really am. >> That you should be. That is something to. celebrate cuz in a world full of men, it's like here's Miranda Lambert. It was. really cool to have to get to open Casar. Rosa. Um because it was like all the.

guys and I love the the guys in country. music are always so supportive of the. women. They really are. >> like I know that conversation always. happens about just the. >> you know the the harder time we have and. the uphill climb that it is. But we have. the country music community is always. super supportive and I love that. I. preach that on this podcast because, you. know, coming from the the arena that my. husband was in with like the country rap. or whatever it was that he was in, it. was so so drama filing, >> whatever he was doing. >> Yeah. Like I don't know. I don't really.

cuz I just always felt like my husband. was more than that, you know, and I. don't ever want to put him in a box. But. when coming into the country scene, it. it has blown our mind how so sweet and. supportive and loving and like we did. not think it was going to be so. accepting as it has been. So, >> it is. >> to know that the men support you too and. they're just out there like, "Hey, over. there, girl.". >> And I appreciate that. But I I was. really proud to like on that row on on. Broadway of all those boys bars. It was. like,

>> "All right." But I mean, you know, it. like you said earlier, I meant to bring. this up, but you said, you know, people. don't see what it took to get there. Everybody, anyone that's really found. their success and like really hit their. stride probably spent 10 years getting. there. >> Absolutely. >> Pretty much. Yes. >> Like overnight successes are 10 year. successes. >> Absolutely. >> It's it's it's worth the work. But I. just think sometimes people this day and. age because of. >> all the platforms and socials and. everything that we have that's like so. everything's right now.

>> Mhm. >> You know, I still think on either side. of that, you got to put in the work. >> Yeah. Absolutely. So even if you blow up. on a social media platform or whatever, that's awesome. But get ready for 10. years work because like that's what it. takes to really sustain. >> Absolutely. I've been doing my podcast. six years and it's I'm in season eight. and it's just now getting the notoriety. the past two seasons that I've been. >> praying for and manifesting, you know. So, yeah. No, it's definitely um a work. in progress.

>> Let's talk about your Vegas residency. You were just in my city. We got to go. out there and see you perform. The show. was amazing. >> Thank you. I took so many notes from. your show that I wanted for like our set. and for like the opening of my um my. podcast and stuff like the the lights. just like everything. I was just like I. want that. I want this. I want that. >> You know it's fun in Vegas because. there's no such thing as too much of. anything. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> And so like you which can be a really. bad thing, but it also can be a good. thing when you're talking about fringe. and rhinestones. >> Yes. I mean you can never have enough.

fringe and rhinestones. Give me all the. >> fringes. Exactly. So that was really fun. to get to put that together. We It was. two years. We wrapped it in March. Um, >> that's a long residency. >> It was long. You know that it's it's. like everyone was like, "How was it?". I'm like, "It was amazing." But it's. it's a different kind of hard than the. road. >> because you're still away from home, but. you're in one spot and the party comes. to you instead of you taking the party. to them. So that's it was a good break. from the road. And it really. >> like when I got back on Alvara, you.

know, my bus, which you you met her. >> Um, >> it was like I missed this. And I didn't. ever think I would say that, >> you know. So, you know, like at the end. of a tour, you're like, I don't want to. see this bus again. >> No, we're we're clamoring to get back on. tour. We can't wait to get back on the. bus, >> but you have to. It's good to miss it. And Vegas helped me do that. And it also. just was so fun with like the production. stuff cuz you could just take it to a. whole another level because you're not. putting it in trucks every night, you. know? So, I'm really thankful for it. And I got to love your city. I mean, >> the strip isn't Vegas. No, it's not,

>> you know, and that's all I knew of it. from going to the ACMS for 18 years in a. row. But I really learned to love like. the outskirts. We stayed in the BBS and. like, you know, I walked my dog every. day and made eggs and like had a real. life there. And um and I love the desert. and just I really I really I went to a. Knights game. I loved it. >> It was my first hockey game to ever go. to nights. >> It was really fun. And so I just I found. like the things of Vegas that aren't. like, you know,

>> how beautiful are the sunsets? >> The sunsets are incredible. The weather. in December is amazing. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. And the and the food scene's. amazing even off the strip. So like I. just really I. >> grew to really love like the locals, too. Like I've made friends with a lot. of people that that I've seen there for. work, but they like live there. So we go. to their house for dinner and it felt. like, oh, this is just a really great. community. Not that I don't love the. strip, but for two days and you're good, you know. >> Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. No, I never whenever. because we're selling our house out. there now, but whenever I would go out.

there, people are like, "Do you live on. the strip?" And I'm like, "Absolutely. not. I will not go to the strip unless. there is a reason." Like my husband has. to be having a show or I'm going to see. you or like I'm never going to step foot. on that strip unless I have to. >> The house that built me, by the way, when my dad passed away in May was the. only song that got me through. I think I. cried my eyes out for like a month. straight with the house that built me. playing in the background. So, >> that song's such a blessing. Like, it's. just one of those songs I'm so thankful. to have. >> It is beautiful. Like, if you listen to. the words, just you literally paint a.

visual in this song and like you just. walk people through just a moment in. your life, a snapshot in your life. And. thank you for that. Um, lastly, can we. talk about Mut Nation? >> Yes. >> I tell me all about. >> I wish your pup was here. >> I know. Me too. I'm so upset you didn't. get to meet Chachi. But you. >> a diva. He's getting groomed today. >> Well, he's he got sprayed by a skunk two. months ago and he still smells like. [ __ ]. >> It last it stays forever. >> Nobody told me that you're not supposed. to put water immediately on a dog when.

they get sprayed by a skunk or else it. locks the the stuff in. >> I've done that. >> Yeah, it's been a nightmare. I used. douche. I've used marinara. I've used. everything on this dog and he still. smells like [ __ ] Miranda, I cannot. >> It's the worst. Yeah, >> my dog snout like when I would kiss him. on the nose. I swear it was like 6. months. >> Oh, don't tell me. >> I know. I'm sorry, but good luck. >> But the tour bus is going to smell like. skunk. >> It's rough. So, tell me about Mut. Nation. >> Mut Nation is my heart and soul and.

passion. Like, music and muds are my. passion and luckily I get to mix them a. lot. Yeah. >> Um, but we're actually doing a show in. Nashville on October 5th. You'll be on. tour, but. >> um Edison for um for the to raise money. for Mut Nation. We started it in 2009, just me and my mom, honestly. Like it. was little mom and pop operation. >> Um because I'd just grown up with like. rescuing dogs. I guess that's what our. family does. >> Rescued humans and dogs. >> Whoever's like three-legged, oneeyed, come on in. >> Um and so,

>> you know, when I was like finally. getting somewhere, my career, my. manager, Mariana, was like, "Now is the. time for you like pick your platform, you know, that you can you can use your. platform for something great. What What. are you thinking?" And I'm like, "For. sure dogs." like and my mom and I had. been involved in rescue and stuff and so. we started Mut Nation and it'll be 15. years. It's 15 year anniversary this. year. >> and we raised over $10 million. >> to we we're not a shelter. We we work. with shelters. That's kind of what we. do. With mom's PI background felt like.

it was kind of perfect because she could. vet all these organizations that we're. able to give to. And when you know when. I was just starting out like in 2009 I. was like I'm asking my fans to give to. something. I want them to know where. their dollars are going. >> Not just like we're saving dogs like. what does that mean? So. >> I wanted it to be very personal and like. for me and mom to kind of have our hands. in everything that we gave. >> everybody we gave money to. And so my. mom uses her PI background to like vet.

all these shelters and all that. We. still we give 50. >> Mom gets [ __ ] done. >> She she she also told me to tell you. hello. She really wants to know you. And. she said I said right before I came over. here, I called her cuz it was her. birthday yesterday. >> Oh, happy birthday, Mom. >> And she said, "Will you tell Bunny to. keep Bunny in? I like her.". >> Oh my goodness. I love her. I can't wait. to meet her. >> She's awesome. But she uh anyway, we M. Nation is basically we um we kind of. support shelters. We really we do. disaster relief when there's natural. disaster. We send funds and resources to.

help the animals in the crisis. Um, we. work with US war dogs to pay for. medication for the retired US military. dogs. >> I'm in. Who do I give my money to? >> We we do so much. We do a prison. programs where we with the prisoners and. the pets where they can. >> rehabilitate each other. Um, and then. the dogs are up for adoption. >> and so much more. There's so much, but I. now like I don't have enough time to. tell you all of it, but you're fine. >> It's you can look it upnation.com and we.

have it all on there. But it's a really. amaz I'm so proud of it. And that's. another thing I'm trying to learn is the. more time I could have room in my life, the more time I can spend on that. And. it, you know, there's one thing to talk. about it in interviews and do a show for. it, but I really like to be boots on the. ground. I really like to. >> go to the shelters. I'd go to a lot in. Nashville and just. >> love on the dogs and try to post about. anybody that's been there a long time. I'm like, "Show me your longest. resident." So, if you ever want to come. with me when it's not so hot, um.

>> I would love to. >> just come walk dogs. And you know, that's another thing I encourage people. to do is if you can't give money and you. can't adopt a dog, you could always just. go volunteer. Even an hour of your time, >> just getting them out of their. enclosures and walking them and human. interaction. >> is it just increases their chance of. adoption so much. So, >> I would love to get Bailey involved in. that. That's that's probably something. that she would love to do. >> And it would be great. There's so many. great shelters in Nashville that we work. with. Metro was one of them and um. Nashville Humane and also Williamson.

County here in Franklin. So, >> yay. >> We got to get together on that because I. know that you love animals. >> No, for sure. And I'm definitely going. to donate because I didn't know I I knew. but I didn't know like everything that. you had involved with. >> Yeah, it's a it's a it's really um. personal for me and it's really we have. a director named Nina who's you know. updates us lit weekly on there's tiny. things that we do to where it's just a. little a beagle needs a wheelchair, you. know. Oh my god, >> we bought a wheelchair or we'll give. like thousands of dollars to like.

Hurricane Harvey relief where I actually. went and was part of that whole rescue. So, it's just it's we do we run the. gamut, but we get to pick everything and. so we when we ask people to give money, they know exactly where it's going. >> Oh, I love that. And maybe when we do. start building on this land, maybe. there's we can start helping with the. dogs or something. I would love that. That would be like just a life goal. I. just love dog nose, you know? Like any. dog nose. I just want to kiss. >> Horse is good, too. >> What is it? horse knows. >> I listen, I am going to get some horses. soon. I promise you I'm going to talk. daddy into it. But Miranda, it has been.

so fun sitting here with you and thank. you so much for coming. Is there. anything you besides the album that you. want to plug before you we sign off? >> I think that was it. We talked about my. nation and the album and. >> um. >> I think we did. Oh, one more thing. I. will I was going to cuz I was going to. tell you I have a brand called Idol Wind. and it's in Boot Barn and um I want to. give you some boots. >> Let's do it. I need some I need some for. tour. get you some. That's what I was. going to say. I thought you could have. some boots for tours. >> That would be amazing. I would love. >> I'll text you and get your size and or.

you can go on there and pick out. whatever you want. >> Okay. I'll I'll get. >> some jeans. They're stretchy. >> I'll hook you up. Yes, I need that cuz. these hips, let me tell you. I'll hook. you up with Mimi and she'll get that. over to you. But I I don't mind paying. for it either. Like I would love to I. listen, I support the cause, sister. All. right. >> Thank you. >> Thank you so much. And you guys know. where to find Miranda. If you don't, just Google Miranda Lambert and you can. find all of her socials. She's on Tik. Tok, Instagram. I think you're pretty. much everywhere. All the things, baby. And I cannot wait to have you. Promise. me you're going to come back and see me. >> I will. I will come back. Promise. >> Yay. Thank you guys so much for tuning.

in to another episode of Dumb Blonde. I. will see you guys next week. Bye.