Coco Austin | Dumb Blonde Podcast

[music]. Is this thing on? What's up you sexyers? Welcome to another episode of Dumb. Blonde. Today's guest is a woman who has. been breaking molds, starting. conversations and arguments, and living. life unapologetically in the spotlight. for decades. She's the OG, a model, actress, entrepreneur, mother, and one.

half of the most iconic couples in the. entertainment industry. >> A Miss Coco Austin in the house, baby. >> What? I need you around more. Can you. like write some more stuff? Like anytime. I enter the room, you can. [laughter]. >> I got you, baby. Dude, I have loved you. forever. So, before when the cameras. weren't rolling, you were talking about. Peep Show. I shout out to Holly. I love. Holly. But when you filled in for her, I. made sure I went and saw it and I was I. did and you did amazing and I was in the. front row and I was like Coco. And like.

you you turned and looked at me and you. were like, "Hi." When you like were. doing your thing, but no, I have always. loved everything that you've. represented. I love that you're a girl's. girl. I love that you have held your own. in a world that is soing brutal. And I. mean, that just speaks volumes for. decades now. >> Yeah. Decades. It is pretty amazing. and. you're still shining. >> Thank you. Oh my god. You know, it's so. weird to say that like people say like, "When did you start modeling?" And I was.

like, "Well, in 1997, so like we're creeping up three 30 years. now." And I I talked to girls. and they're in their 20s. They weren't. even born when I was doing it. Like you. and I are the same age. So Oh, we are. Okay. >> I'm 45 and you're 46. Yeah. So I was. like, you know, there was a whole life. before them, you know, even like. just like even the Kardashians. I had. hate to say that. I don't want to even. put that out there, but.

>> you know, I was before the Kardashians. [laughter]. >> Oh no, baby. We know. >> They think the Kardashians started it. all. Like I'm like, how do I say this. correctly? Well, there was uh a bunch of. people that started the whole curvy. scene way before the Kardashians. And I. was happy to say I was one of them. And. they just don't they're not they're so. young that they just don't see that, you. know. >> Well, and they don't they don't look at. the history and the lore of where it. really comes from. I know. I literally. when I started this podcast, you were.

one of the first people I've been trying. to get on it for the past six years cuz. I have just been obsessed. >> Has it been six years? >> Yeah. Has it been six, seven years? Yeah. >> Yeah. Seven years. Yeah. I've been. trying to get you on and I'm just like, dude, I want Coco on because I mean, we. grew up together. We were we lived in an. era that nobody will understand unless. they lived it. And those times were. amazing, dude. Like they were so totally. amazing. Like I go back into like the. '9s, right? There was ravers. I mean, like the club scene was like so dope. I.

mean, people talk about like the and all. that stuff, but that's what that was in. >> Yeah. >> That was Look at what like all the you. know, the crazy stuff they're having at. parties now. They're coming to light. now, but I hate to say it, like people. were having a good ass time. >> Oh, no. We were up and loving it. All. right. >> We were not some angels back in the day. And so I just like I hear these stories. and I'm like, well, now everybody's prim. and proper, you know? >> Is it prim and proper or does everybody. want to just cancel everybody for noing.

reason? I feel like everybody thinks. they're better than everybody now. >> Everybody. >> Whereas before we were all like equal. and nobody We weren't like judging. people because they sin differently. >> It was a fun time. >> Yeah. Yes, everybody had their opinions, but they stuck to it. Like, okay, that's. your opinion. Whatever. Let's move on. >> Respect was a huge thing back then. Like. I because I came from the streets and so. I'm I'm huge on respect. And I feel like. you also grew up in that same era also. >> People don't have respect for each other. anymore, you know, like it's wild.

>> And then they also hide behind their. electronics. So, you know, they can like. bully each other, hide behind they can. say whatever they want to say and then. hide. >> Yeah. you know, and like they we didn't. have that. We didn't have the technology. that we did back then. So, >> I couldn't agree more. I always say that. the internet shouldn't be free because. if people actually had to pay for it, they would probably watch what they have. to say online, you know, like you would. you would be better stewards of your. time if you actually had to pay a bill, an internet bill, you know, to leave a.

bad comment, you know, you'd have to pay. for that, >> right? I like that. I love that. [laughter] They would be out of money. Oh, cuz there's waiting to bad comic. people, you know. >> No, they're terrible humans. >> But yeah, but to go back to Vanity. Vixens though, I took over Holly Madison. because she was pregnant and I was they. needed someone to fill her spot. And. when uh they asked me to do it, I was. like, but I want to dance. >> because she didn't dance hers. So I was. like, cuz I'm a dancer, I like let's.

dance, you I don't want to just stand up. there, you know, and sing and just like. jiggle a little boobs or something. I. really want to dance. And they said, "Yeah." So, they reconstructed that. whole show for me, for actually my part. or Little Bo Peep's part, I should say. >> So, I I had actually that was the one of. the most amazing experience that and. well, I think live show you can't beat. it. >> No, I mean audience you can't beat. They're there. The energy is great. They're there to see you and no one.

else. I mean, you feel it with your. husband, too. When you go on stage, when. I go on ISIS stages all the time, they're there to see him, and it's like, yeah, they want to see me on the. sidelines. Okay, I'm there all the time. But. >> I think that, and we'll talk about this, but I think I think people are there to. see Iced Tea and Coco at this point. >> That's true. That's they want to see the. package. >> Don't sell yourself short. >> I do. But, you know, when they see them, they're like lip singing his songs, you. know, and they know every single word. energy. >> It's a good energy.

>> and there's just so much love. >> So much love and they you feed off of. that, you know. So, you can't beat. anything that I've done in my whole. life. You cannot beat a live crowd. >> Would you ever do another show like that. again? >> Of course. >> Yeah. Would you go to like Vegas and do. like a residency or something like that? >> Well, I actually came back to New York. after that [clears throat]. because I was out there for almost a. year. came back to New York and I did. Vanity Vixens, which was another. burlesque show, but that was for only. six months. And then I got pregnant. >> A.

>> so I was like, okay. And then once I got. pregnant, I just kind of put everything. on the back burner. I really wanted to. be a mom and I didn't care about. anything else. I And that's why you like. don't see me like on red carpets as much. or premieres. I used to be on it all the. time. I was like here, go here with. eyes, there with eyes. I mean, we were. like going out like two to three times a. week, you know? We were having fun and. then it's just like it's too much work, [laughter]. >> right? Well, yeah. Being a lot of work. having to. >> you have to be on all the time.

>> and I'm like, you know what? I I I did. what uh Ice and I have been together for. 25 years. So, uh 15 years together. before I got pregnant. So, it was a lot. of partying and moving around and seeing. the world. And then I was like, "Okay.". Got pregnant and I was like, I'm I kind. of like chilled, you know? >> I feel like you found your sole purpose, though, you know? Like I feel like you. did the modeling, you did the acting, you married a gangster rapper, you did.

everything that a beautiful buxom blonde. could do. And then it's like when this. little baby just entered your. atmosphere. >> Yes. >> It was she was all all you she had all. of your attention. >> I I became obsessed. Yeah. >> Like it's amazing how something can. consume you that you you literally. become like a monster. You become. obsessed with this little thing because. it's up to you to bring that person up. into a good little human being. >> Yeah. >> You know, it's up to you. No one else. is. So that's why I didn't want to give.

her to nannies or babysitters or any. because I feel like then you're being. raised by someone else and that you're. going to feed off of that personality. You're now kids kids start learning. about personalities and they take a. little bit of here and a little bit of. there and then they make their own. personality. So she has a little bit of. I she has a little bit of me. But if she. was with a nanny 247 now she's going to. take from that nanny. I feel. >> Yes. >> And I was like no I'm that I'm it's all.

me. I want her. No one else can have. her. >> I love that. >> So I'm I'm very much hand I'm very. hands-on. >> No I see it. She is literally attached. to your hip. I'm going to scroll down to. my questions about Miss Chanel. I was. going to talk about her later on in the. podcast, but let's talk about her now. >> Um, she is literally glued to your hip. like. >> 24/7. Like that is your bestie for the. resty. >> Like seriously, I think it's so cute and. she is so sassy. I just watched the. video of her. You were dropping her off. at school and she's just like so sassy.

in the car. >> Yes. Very much like her own. like she. has an opinion about everything now. And. sometimes it's too much of an opinion. It gets me mad. I'm like, "No, let's. debate about this." [laughter]. You're like, "She's how old? Seven, eight.". >> She uh is nine. She's nine. She's nine. But going on 20 because when you're. talking to her, you're It's like you're. talking to an adult. Like she knows. things. She's been I mean, really, she's. been around the world in II. She's been. on many tours with us, seen Europe, seen.

I mean, she's been in clubs. >> Okay. Everyone's going to say, "Oh, she's been in club." But her daddy. performs in clubs. >> Yeah. We Bailey has been in clubs with. us since she was a baby because it's. like, you know, that's what her dad does. for a living. It's not like we're taking. him there to sit him up on the bar to. drink, you know? Like my dad did that to. me and he wasn't even doing anything, [laughter] you know? So at least you. know Ice is performing and you're there. watching. >> and so and so like she that's she. doesn't understand why she can't go to a. club. When we do really go to a club.

like when we have like date nights and. we go out. >> she can't understand well what's the. difference? You guys take me out anyway. And [laughter]. so there's some separation anxiety that. she has when uh when I leave her. Yeah. I kind of have I I do too. You know. still to this day I breastfed. >> for a very long time. >> Yes. which let's talk about that because. it's been like such well here let's. let's circle back we'll talk we'll touch. on that to talk about right I know. there's so much let's circle back to the. moment that you found out you were. pregnant were did you and Ice do that.

naturally or was did you guys use IVF. >> so no so what happened was I was on the. pill for 17 years and um I really didn't. want children I I was very career-minded. I was like hard-headed uh my mom who was. also in the entertainment business she. was in soap opera and she collapsed on. the soap opera. They ran, this is LA, they ran her to the hospital. They gave. her like 2 days to live. >> Oh my goodness. >> Um it was like we were at my sister and.

I were like 10 at this time. We said our. goodbyes, but this is the day and age. This is uh 30 years ago when holistic. wasn't a thing. Holistic people didn't. even know what holistic was. She took. her, you know, uh, whatever needles out. of her arm and then left from LA to. Albuquerque to work with holistic. doctor. And. >> what was her diagnosis? What happened? >> Well, there's there's a lot that goes. into it. There's a t a twisted bio duck. cancer. Like it was like all kinds of.

crazy stuff. Oh my goodness. And she. went to the holistic doctor and um they. shrunk a cancer with [snorts] tea. >> Wow. I believe it. I'm I'm this all. holistic remedies. >> 40 years later, here she is. And that's. because she made that jump. Now, um I. just went off track. There was you got. off birth control. >> Oh, so you know when she when my mom was. pregnant with me, she would say I had to. stop my career.

>> You know, I have to stop my career. because she was like the first Rams. cheerleader. You know, my dad was also. an actor by the way. They met. I can. keep on going on. But my parents, >> we'll talk about the family after Chanel. >> on the set of Bonanza. >> Mhm. >> My parents when they were 14 years old. >> My parents met on the set of Bonanza and. they connected there and they got. married at 19. >> Ran to Vegas, secretly got married, boom, had me. She had to stop her. career. >> So, kind of like I felt like.

>> internally I could never have a child. because it would stop my career. But. that that was kind of um and I know that. your mom probably didn't mean that, but. that was traumatic for you to have to. hear that and that was a lot to carry as. a child. You know, you shouldn't have. had to. >> carry that and feel like a burden, you. know. >> Well, it wasn't like a burden. I just. always heard it. I'm thinking, well, no, I'm going to have a career. I'm going to. have a career. I'm not going to have. children because it's just too hard to. have child. She she struggled. She was a. single mom. Struggled. And I was like, I.

don't want to do that. I don't want to. struggle. I and when I got with ICE kind. of things changed. Now I got with ICE at. 22 and um he was like hey if you don't. want kids is that's up to you. I already. got two older children. I don't need. kids but it's more up to you. I was like. you know what. I'm birth control. Wait till I get to. 35. I get to 35. I'll have a. conversation with God and myself.

>> We'll talk about it then. I want to. like, you know, uh, what do you call it? Uh, sew my wild oats right now. You. know, >> I think everybody should do that. I tell. everybody that, even our kid, I'm like, listen, when party and have fun and live. your life and then in your mid30s, decide if you want to have a family. Like, you don't have to be at 21. You. don't do that. Like, go and have a. >> You do it later. >> Yeah. >> You at some point in your life, you want. to like, you know, do that. You want to.

have fun. So whether it be early or. later. So um I I told ICE give me some. time. So I was on the pill for 17 years. 35 comes and I was like okay let me. think about this. I'm like what have I. not done really? I've done everything in. this world pretty I mean I have. everything. You know there's not much. more than a baby is a pretty damn cool. thing. So I said, "Okay, I'm not going.

to try hard. If it's meant to be, it. will come.". >> So I went to my doctor and I asked, "What do I do?" And she says, "Well, don't get discouraged. It's going to. take about a year for your body just to. regulate itself because you've been on. the pill for so long." And I was like, "Okay, no, no problem." I'm like, you. know, I'm patient, whatever. And two. months comes. Chanel was like, "I'm. coming.". >> And I was pregnant. I was like, "Now Ice.

thinks it's him.". >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> He thinks it's him. >> How old was I iso at the time? >> He was Okay. So he So I was um 33. >> So he's what 50some? >> So he's we were 21 a year difference. So. yeah. So he has to be 50 something, right? >> I mean that's good. At least he's not. shooting blanks, >> right? You know. Exact. Well, that's. what he said. He [laughter] said, "You. know, I can I can I can make a baby. through a brick raw. A brick raw.".

>> Like, okay. He's like, "Want you two? You want to?" I'm like, "No, I. [laughter] don't want to." So, he kind. of take that's him. He thinks. >> I was like, "Maybe it's the stroke. >> Maybe it's the right." That's what I. say. I'm like, I think it has to be as. the right stroke. >> I feel like when there's a lovingness. that happens with. >> Well, I believe in spirit babies, too. And I feel like Chanel chose you because. she has such an old soul. She came to. me. Actually, I got pregnant on my. birthday. >> I know exactly. We were in Chicago. >> It was a snowy day. He was actually.

there filming um a a a crossover with. Law and Order over out there and not. there was it was my birthday and he took. me out to dinner and um I wore the right. shoes that night. I feel like it's the. right shoes because he's all about. shoes. He has to see me in the right. shoes. That's that's his turn on. And um. to this day, those shoes sit on my. dresser. >> No. >> As like a reward that that's I those are.

the shoes that got me pregnant. And. >> does he have a foot fetish or just a. shoe fetish? >> Well, a sho first it was a shoe fetish, >> but I turned him into a foot fetish. >> Oh, gotcha. >> That he started liking the feet. Like. not like licking or anything like that. It was more like he liked the look of my. feet and he didn't realize he liked feet. until he saw my feet and I I've never I. have really tiny feet and I was like. beautiful feet. >> I was like I didn't even know I I had.

cute feet but I mean now I work with it, you know, but. >> he just I think Ice just loves you. I. think it could be just anything on you. >> Yes, you feel it. I feel the love all. the way. But. >> you could tell there was a there was a. moment there because when I came back to. New York and they told me that I was. pregnant, I was like, I know exactly. when that happened cuz I felt like the I. almost felt like there was a magical I. felt like when there was a moment that. it happened and that's when she like,

hello, I want to come. >> So I and and also the pregnancy, I mean. was so amazing. >> Yeah, I've heard you talk about it that. it was like a really easy pregnancy. You. did three pushes and she came out. >> Oh my god. And you know, I tell people. like people are worried about their. weight or whatever before being. pregnant. It's really worry about your. abs. Like I felt like if you have like. really like tight abs, you it doesn't. come out as much and then it's easy for. you to get back the abs. >> Yeah. You look great. You don't even.

look like you've had a child. >> Well, thank you. >> It's crazy. >> As soon as she walked in, I was like, you look amazing. [laughter] Just body. >> I'm like I'm very health consscious, though. It's like I'm a party girl, but. I'm health conscious. I like Ice is like. rolling his eyes on me. >> Life is all about balance. >> It is all about balance. So. >> So what's one thing that you hope Chanel. never has to heal from that you had to? >> Well, I just I really worry about the. the people online cuz I'm now seeing. that she's reading these comments online.

and she see for me I'm I'm hard-headed. I'm like whatever this I don't care. Do. you care about them? You've never meet. them in your life. But for her, she. really believes. >> that we'll see them and you know they'll. they'll ask her questions and I don't. know, but they affect her. And I was. like, don't read the comments. They. don't read the comments. Plain and. simple. Like I don't Yeah, you could. turn off the comments, but.

[clears throat]. she's going to have to develop some. hardness along the way. This is just the. beginning, >> right? And I don't know, I just feel. like Chanel is such a good human being. Like her soul is so good, too nice that. she's too nice to other people. >> And that's kind of like actually that's. me. >> I was just about to say I think she gets. it from her mama. >> I think I've had too many people hurt me. in the past because I've been too nice. You know, I I let that happen. I let.

people do that. And now I've gotten. older. I've kind of gotten a little bit. more shrewd. But I feel like you have to. get older to be. >> shrewd. And I think you get to a point. when you reach our age that it's like. you don't give a how anybody feels about. anything. If they're disrupting your. piece, get the out. Like. >> we don't have time for it. >> Right. Ex. It's I don't care anymore. Like I was trying to make everybody I. was always that girl in the in the room. with that one chick that couldn't stand.

me and I was always trying to get her on. board. You know, I would spend all my. energy for her to like me because I'm. like, I'm a cool chick. >> Yeah, >> I'm [laughter] a cool chick. Sit down. and talk to me. I'm. >> But she didn't like you because she was. jealous. It's really simple. >> Exactly. And then she won't get to know. me. And I think a lot of people just saw. the picture of me. They just saw me as. that model for so long. And and and. that's the main reason why I did the. reality show because I wanted them to.

see my personality because I'm like so. much more than a picture. And you know, of course, I'm I came to through Okay. My modeling was mostly body modeling. >> I was a body model. >> You're the OG. Like literally, you set. the tone. All of these Instagram girls. have you to thank for that. I say that. all the time. Anytime like in any. interviews that I do or we talk about. like you know this whole movement that's. happened, I'm like that's we have to. give that to Coco dudes cuz I don't know. anybody else besides like Betty Paige or.

like you know. >> who else could we even think of that was. really uh Dita Vontis. She was around in. our time too. Like but she was doing. like the burles stuff. like you were. doing like the spicy before any of. us were doing the spicy. >> right? And and actually the spicy. that I was doing was actually um Oh, actually, let me go back. I was like one. of the first models to have a website. >> Yes. >> Cuz no one had a website. No one would.

spend money on themselves because that. was your business, right? To spend. 1520$20,000. for a website was like unheard of for a. model. So, I was one of those. I think. um I I say this in some interviews a. long time ago that I was always against. Cindy Margarus. Do you remember Cindy. Margolus. >> briefly? Was she the like she was. blonde, right? >> Yes. And she was the most downloaded. bikini model at that time. Yeah. That's. that's my era. >> Yes, I remember. And I always have to.

tell people to go back 19, you know, like 2000, 1997, like come go to that. era because a lot of people are like. kind of thinking this time. Go back to. my time for a second to my time. >> Back in my day. No, I catch myself. saying that all the time. I swear. to God. Or I'll say that my parents. said and I laugh cuz I'll say it to them. and I'll be like, "You ever heard your. grandpa say that?" Like it is so funny. cuz I'm just like I can't believe we're. at that age where this shit's going on. >> Oh my god. I and I know now I'm. [laughter] saying that but back then uh.

to spend money on yourself you you want. people to to actually you know use you. as a let's say this correctly you you. want an agent you want um people to. basically buy you they want you. >> you're selling a brand and you are the. brand. >> Yes. >> Yes. >> And to have that website was everything. And um. >> I remember you were advertising it. pretty much on um Ice Loves Coco on on. the show, which I it inspired me cuz I.

was like, "Oh, okay. This is what we. need to do. We need to brand." And so I. think that right around that time is. when I got into webcam cuz So before I. was. >> I remember WebCAT was huge like during. this time. >> Yes. before all this and before Jay, I. was an Instagram girl and I, you know, I. worked in Vegas. >> um out there in the casinos, you know, doing stuff like that. And um we also. did webcam and it was like. >> you you just inspired a whole gener not. to do webcam. I'm not saying you to do.

webcam, but just that line of work of. being able to be proud of showing our. bodies and being like, you know what, that we are marketing ourselves and. become we're becoming the brand and. being independent and nobody else can. take that from us. And I think that you. really are the the um the goat that. started all of that. >> That's so cool. Thank you so much. >> I got to give you your flowers, baby. >> I do appreciate that. Well, >> you deserve them. I I um when I was. doing my website, there's an area called.

private zone. And on the private zone is. when I uploaded videos, actually candid. videos of me walking around, doing this, doing that. No one's ever seen that. because it was pre- Instagram. Now. Instagram does that. But I was doing. this I was I was doing this um uh you. know, photo shoots that were a little. risque and a little over the top for. people, but it was accepting them. It. was acce accepting then. >> you [clears throat] know what I'm. talking about. So uh I guess you know.

people were really into it. Okay there's. like some famous or a known person I. hate saying famous a known person is. kind of showing a little bit more that. they shouldn't and then people left it. >> So then when the Instagram thing started. I was like I kind of been doing this. I've been you know can all these candid. shots. That's what I've been doing on my. website for so long. And now I see like. the girls doing my poses. Yeah, >> cuz I thought it was an acrobatic po. Uh, like. >> the way you contort your body is insane.

[laughter]. >> That's what I was always trying to get. in poses that no one's ever done, never. thought about. Now, you know, I was. always trying to think, oh, you know, beyond the pose, you know, beyond that. moment, you know, and I now I see um. poses like I think the iconic one was. the the smooth magazine where I was kind. of like on my my um on the ground with. my butt up in the air. And to this day, all these girls always send me the. pictures of them trying to do that pose. It's a hard pose. I mean, it looks easy, but it's a hard pose.

>> Posing in general, I hate it. Like, you. can ask them, "My photo shoots are. fast." I'm like, "Let's get these. We're. posing. >> You get tired. You You're sore the next. day.". >> It's crazy. People don't People are. like, "Oh, you're just a model." And. it's like, "No, you don't realize what. these girls are really having to do and. like contort their body and like get the. shot. It's not easy to look beautiful. when your in the air and your head is. smashed into the ground. >> Don't breathe. Suck in the stomach. Point your toes. [laughter] Like all. these little thing. Don't have crazy. hands, you know, like.

>> Yeah. Make sure you don't get the double. chin. >> You're like, you're so odd doing it, but. there is an art to it. There is an art. to it. And then. >> you've always made it beautiful though. Like it's never been trashy on your end. It's always been just ve very just coco. and it's like that's your own brand and. it's never been tacky and it's just been. beautiful. >> Well, that's why I kind of went to. >> um Only Fans because uh I'm pretty much. I just took what I was doing on. Instagram and uploaded the pictures.

there because I think it was getting a. little too saucy on Instagram and I was. like, you know, I I want to be like a. wholesome mother that people see. I. don't want them to always see my ass. >> I'll take that over there. So if you. want to see it, you can. But. >> do you feel like having Chanel has. changed your perspective in the pictures. and and all that all that stuff? >> I think about her all the time. >> Like when I'm hitting a pose, I'm like, maybe that's not such a good one. I kind. of bring it down a little bit. Yeah.

Because I want her to be happy for me or. proud. >> because eventually she'll really look. right now. She just says, "Oh, that's. mommy. That's what mommy does. That was. what mommy does." But I don't want want. it to ever bug her, you know? So, I want. to do it in an appropriate way that. makes her feel comfortable. You know, she knows that's who I'm all about. Okay, mommy's sexy. You know, she always. calls me the hottie totty. I'm wearing. my hottie totty pants today. And so, she's just rolls her eyes like, okay. So, she gets it, but I want to make sure.

I don't go overboard that now she's kind. of weirded out, you know? So, I'm very. like delicate with it, you know? Um, and. everybody's always like going into that. other page thinking they're going to get. a lot more. And I'm like, no, I'm still. a mother, guys. Like, come on. >> Yeah. And it's like you don't not. everybody wants to do that, you know? Not everybody wants to put it all out. there. True. >> How is doing for you? >> It what? So, when I first caught on it. was awesome. Like I was like,

>> people just like just want to sit there. and just get the same stuff that I'm. getting on Instagram. >> They want the experience of being able. to talk to you though. >> Yes. Yes. So, it's like a personal. >> It is. It's very hard for me though. because I have so much. >> projects going on and it's just like. that's time consuming. So, I really have. to even it out. Like you're I'm only. going to give you this amount of time on. my page and then I'm off. >> I can't be on it all day, you know? I I. have to pick I'm not even on every.

single day. I have to go, you know, during times where it's quiet and I just. have to answer. A lot of these companies. want to take over my page. and does me, but I know for a fact people know who I. am. They know my personality and they'll. know it's not me replying. >> But and I think that speaks volumes of. you because you want to give them the. genuine experience. When I I had OFA, too. And. >> how was it with you? Did you. >> Amazing. I made millions off OF. >> It's crazy how you. >> But I was busting it wide open. [laughter].

So, you know, your girl can't lie. >> You know what? >> Somebody's got a picture of my butthole. out there. All [laughter] right. It's okay. >> I literally only shut down my OF because. my husband I married a rapper, too. I. don't know if you know the history, but. they they've I've always got the. comparisons. We've always got the. comparisons to you guys. And I married a. rapper, too. And then all of a sudden, my husband is making it in country. music. And I'm around all these. beautiful prim and proper southern women. who are not busting it wide open. [laughter] And I'm like, I don't want to.

be the only country music singer's wife. whose butthole is on the internet, [laughter] you know? I was like, so I. just I prayed to God and I was just. like, you know what, Lord, if if this is. the right decision, please show me that. it is. I shut down my OF and I literally. tripled my income after I shut down my. OF. >> Oh wow. >> Yeah. So I always tell everybody that. like and I love my worker girlies. I. came from works. That's my that was who. I was before any of this. So I support. it fully and I think anybody who's on. there, do whatever you want to do on. there. You don't have to. >> Well, you don't have to just do I mean.

chefs are on there. You know, fitness. trainers are on there. I mean, I think. it's such a taboo word. >> Well, did you know that OAF actually. started because it was for music. artists? >> So, OAF was originally going to be for. music artists to have interactive. experiences with their fans and then, you know, us internet girlies took it. over. [laughter]. >> Yeah. >> We were like, oh yeah, here they come. >> You can't make a lot of money, but you. can. Absolutely. And you know, I just. kind of make it work for me cuz I could. make so much more money if I wanted to,

but I don't have the time. >> But you don't. And you're also Coco. You. don't have Exactly. I'm just doing it. cuz I have this extra like footage of I. have all this extra stuff. Might as well. get paid while. >> It's passive income. Literally, you're. making money while you sleep. >> I'm not going out of my way. I I really. am. I could easily, and I don't want to. at this point. I don't need to. >> You're easily shut it down. It's not. going to affect me, but it's it's who I. am. I'm always going to take sexy. pictures. I feel like since until I die. >> Yeah. >> I'm like, someone's asking about me. Well, when are you going to stop? You.

hear all these comments. Um, don't you. think you're too old? >> No. >> What is that exactly? It really bothers. me because like we're I think we're. setting the tone. You know, I'm really. into like good health, my peptides, my. liquid whatever vitamins. >> Let's talk about peptides next. I'm like. uh I'm like all about that and I'm like. you know I think I'm doing a good job. keeping myself up you know like I'm. sorry keeping up with myself right. >> you are beautiful and age I I hate the. way that people It's crazy because when.

somebody dies at 40 or 45 oh my gosh. they were so young when a a woman like. us wants to take a sexy picture at 40 or. 45 it's oh my god you're too old to be. doing that. It's like you can't win. So, we're going to do whatever we want, however we want, but we are really. setting the tone for 45year-old women. because. >> it was so funny. My our daughter, she. she like will try to rouse me and she'll. like, you know, try to like take jabs. and she'll be like, "Yeah, we're old.". Finally, I looked at her one day. I. said, "I will run laps around you and. all your girlfriends." And she's never.

said it again. She was like, "You know. what? You're right. >> Wait a second. [laughter] Oh, wait a. second. You take that back.". >> Yeah. Because I just feel like I think. women nowadays we're we're aging more. gracefully. Yes. And not that the women. back in the day weren't, but like the. Golden Girls. >> I I was just going to say that. >> they were 40. >> So freaking crazy. >> What? >> To me, they look like more 60s, >> bro. Like, you know, like Blanch was not. looking 40. Neither was Dorothy. Dorothy. was literally looking 73. >> No, I think it has to do My mom said.

this, the hairstyle, too. >> I mean, the gray hair, the freaking the. short. >> the short like thing going on. I I know. I I definitely believe I think if you're. attentive to your body and you know you. you help it and I'm I'm very open to all. these cool techy things now that are out. people don't want to accept what's. coming. >> So what if we live to 100 150 easily you. know. >> we'll be like Battywinkle. >> with the cool technology. I'm just.

saying with people are all like h I. don't know about this it's no I don't. know. I'm like, but why not give it a. shot? Maybe it might keep you alive. longer. >> That and with AI now, I mean, people can. have careers for the rest of their. lives. Like, it's crazy. You can. literally rebrand yourself as Coco. Austin for the rest of your life. And. people are going to you're just every. generation you'll be. >> I'm going to go out. I'm going to I'm. going to go out with a thong on. [laughter]. and do the splits. Everybody's like, "What are you going to Can you stop.

doing the splits?" I'm like, "No, I'm. doing it all. All this stuff that. irritates the hell out of you, I'm going. to do it all. Keep doing it, baby. Keep. doing it. Cuz I can't even do the. splits. [laughter] All right. I can't. I'm jealous. I I can't do a split. >> I was in ballet. I was I was in actual. dance, you know, dance for a while when. I And then it kind of just I kept with. the flexibility my whole life. So, it. was like. >> So, let's circle back to that to the. beginning because, you know, you touched. on it really briefly. Um, >> tell me a little bit about growing up. You grew up in a family of seven.

>> No. Um, so my it's my mom and my my dad. They divorced at when I was 6 years old. My sister and I grew up in the same. household. We're like Irish twins. We're. within. >> That's the one that's always with you. What is her name again? >> Her name is Christie. >> Christy. Yes. >> And uh she's really into yoga and good. health and all that good stuff. >> Where did I get that you got you grew up. in a family of seven? >> I don't know where that came from. Now I. have three other half brothers that I. didn't grow up in the same household,

>> but we're still very close. All of us. are very, very close. I don't know where. seven came from, but that's funny. >> That's right. Sometimes when I Google. stuff, they give me like crazy answers. Yeah. >> But it's okay. So, it's. >> But I'm the oldest. Yes. >> Of them all. >> So, I set the tone. I'm very bossy. [laughter] If you ask him all, I'm I'm. very much like I tell him what to do. >> That's where you get your headstrong. ways, though, and why you're so. independent because I feel like the. oldest always I was the oldest in my. house even though I had an old I had. >> two half brother, half sister.

>> Okay. >> Um you just always I don't know it's a. you have you grow up in the same house. different home if [clears throat] that. makes sense than your siblings. >> well then you have to be the leader too. someone has to be a leader amongst them. so who's that going to be usually it's. the older one. >> yes. >> usually. >> absolutely so tell me about your mom and. your dad they met on the set of Bonanza. >> you grew up in a uh Cali. >> yes so I grew up in California um they. met on the set of Bonanza at 14 and um.

got married I 18, 19 years old in Vegas. and they she had my mom had me. I'm want to say 19 at 19 years old and. you know she was kind of doing it in the. world of entertainment at that time. She. was like the first Rams cheerleader. Um. they have they have those reunions. actually still to this day. This kind of. I'm like why don't you go to reunion? That's kind of cool, right? That is cool. >> to see all of these like little um girls.

that now grown up, you know? Did you. want to see where they are? >> So, it's when you say reunion, it's the. ones that she like cheered with. >> Yeah. A. >> they have the very first Ram. cheerleader, you know. Now, now for for. a long time there was no Ram so they. brought it back. >> So, um so, uh what happened? So they. divorced at six at when I was 6 years. old and then I went to live with my. grandparents and that's pretty much who. I I was brought up with my grandparents. My mom was a single mom. So. >> what was your relationship like with.

your mom growing up? >> Awesome. >> Yes. She um. she was almost like a me like when it. come like Chanel and I have the same. relationship. She was very much wants to. be my bestie type of thing. was very. open about everything, you know, everything. She She was I maybe too. open. [laughter]. She told me way too much stuff early on, but no, we're very very to this day. We're very close. Very close. Just so. it's my mom and my sister. We're like.

little like I call her the three. musketeers. >> And she's your full sister. >> She's my full sister. But if we're all. three together, we all look like. sisters. My mom looks not like a mom. She looks like a sister. >> How does mom look now? Is she still hot? >> Oh, so hot. >> Banging. Yes. See, it just runs in the. family. >> She's so hot. Like, I'm telling when she. comes around us, everybody. I'm like, "This is my mom." And they're like, "Oh. my god, really?" She doesn't. She's like. a little petite thing, >> blonde, big boobs, kind of like, you. know, we all have a similarity type of. thing. But get this. I was born dark.

hair. I don't I wasn't born blonde. My. sister and my mom are both blondes. I. was the dark duckling, you know? >> So, you're the brunette? >> Yes. >> I'm brunette, too, naturally. >> Like almost like black hair. Like, it's. so dark. And I'm very very white. Like. I'm talking like I call myself. see-through. Translucent. That's my. husband. [laughter]. >> I tell him that all the time. I'm like, "You are Casper.". >> It's Yeah, exactly. So, I'm like I just. felt like I need to. >> I looked up to my mother and I wanted to.

be blonde like her and my sister. Why. can't I be like them? >> So, when I got around 18, I started to. um do highlights to my hair. And I. remember and never forget this gay guy. was like this is like thousand years. ago. He's like, "Oh, you're you're um. you're putting highlights in your hair. Oh, you're going to come up for more. highlights next week and then week. after." And then I get guarantee you. you'll be platinum next year. >> Did he? >> That bothered me. I [laughter] was like, "There's no way. I'm brunette. I'm a.

true brunette. I will always have a. little bit of highlights, but I will. never be platinum." Oh my god, was he. right. I did a little bit more. highlights and a little bit more. highlights and then I was full blast. blonde and I will never forget that. I. never went back. I was I started at 18. and I haven't seen my real real true. hair since then. >> It's so hard to go back from being. platinum blonde to dark. I have wrestled. with it for years. I tell her all the. time because this is my manager, but she.

used to be my hairdresser, okay? >> And I'm literally like, "I want to be. red. I want to go dark." And she's like, "Absolutely not buy wigs." She's like, cuz. >> that's what I do now. I do I buy wigs. I. just put the wigs on when I do photo. shoots, put the wigs on just to get it. out of my system, you know? >> Yeah, you have to. >> But you're right. So, I I was very much. like, okay, I want to fit this whole. California vibe. I live in California. Um Oh, I was I'm sorry. I was from. California, >> but what happened was my mom got sick.

you [snorts] know, she was um on a uh a. soap opera at the time. She was actually. wearing a. >> soap opera was she on? >> I have to ask her. I thought the Bold. and Beautiful. I have to tell I get it. confused now. Um but uh she was wearing. a teddy, she said, and then she. collapsed and they erased her to the. hospital. And then they said, "You have. two days to live. we, you know, said, "Okay, let's" At that time, we were like.

10 years old, right? We had to say our. goodbyes. >> That's got to be so traumatic. Uh. dealing with that at 10 years old, too, thinking that you're about to lose your. best friend. >> Well, we didn't understand. We're like, "Okay, this is I remember cry. It was a. heat wave, too. And uh my sister and I. were like in the bed naked." Cuz you. know, in air in California, they don't. have air conditioning. >> It's like swamp coolers. >> Yeah. You're like, you're like the air. from the outside is cooling you off. You're like I remember being so hot from. the heat wave and just like like tears.

would just come down my like it was just. like you can't get a grip. You're like. [laughter]. >> like your mother you're losing your. mother. That's it. You you don't have a. mother for the rest of the way out. >> And then. >> what was your relationship like with. your father? Was he around? >> Yes. So my dad, he's amazing. He he just. wasn't near us. He lived about three. hours away to what's called Victorville, California, Spring Valley Lake kind of. area. And uh so, you know, for him to. see us, he'd have to drive like 3 hours.

So, we still got to see him every other. weekend. But he was Mr. I try anything. in the world, you know? He owned a. bungee jump business from a hot air. balloon type of guy. >> Oh jeez. >> Like, he's wild adrenaline junkie. like. he's like uh he's been a stock broker. He's built houses. He's I mean my dad is. like jack of all trades, master, >> done everything. He's always gone to. school to do something else and to do. he's always hopping around now. He just.

retired just recently and I'm like what. are you going to do with your life? Cuz. like. >> my dad needs. >> Where are you going to find the. adrenaline from? Yeah. >> Yeah. But he's like my dad is like a. natural stocky like muscular guy with. like. >> is that where you get your muscular. build from? >> Exactly. Exactly. My dad is actually my. mom has like really amazing um like legs. like calves and he does too. And my mom. has this like little tiny itty bitty. waist with like wide hips but like she. just wants a little oomph. She's like. why can't I get a little oomph in my in.

my rare? She just like has the wide. hips. >> Um so then. >> so then my dad going back to my dad he. has like all these tattoos all over his. body. He's like a Harley guy. like uh. it's a funny story how um his wife had. bought him a Harley book for one of. these Christmases, right? And you know, you know, starting this whole thing, the. podcast, the brand, it didn't happen. overnight. I remember sitting there.

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>> That is so funny. >> Yes. And then and his wife at the time. didn't even realize it, but he was on. his like cherry red Harley like going. down a mountain in full action and it. was him. He was like the only one on the. cover. I was like, "Okay, okay. Harley. loves you." So he he's Mr. Harley-Davidson. He's he's a he's a. really cool my both my parents are like. really cool people and that's why Ice. gets along with them because you have to. have a good mix with your family and and. my and both my parents are really really.

like cool people you know and I feel. like they're so. >> I feel like you and I are really cool. parents too though. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> I think so. I I hope so. I feel I say to. Chanel I'm so cool. You don't even know. [laughter] how cool I am until you see. other parents and she's like tone it. down. Tone it down. Tone it down. She. won't allow me to, speaking of toning it. down, she won't allow me going to school. with heels on. >> Oh, because she wants you to tone it. down. >> She won't she doesn't want me to like be. that person. So, I when I go to pick her.

up from school, I want to make sure I'm. not like in a dress or I change out of. my clothes for what I was doing. >> What kind of tennis shoes does Coco. wear? Cuz I don't think I've ever seen. you in a pair of tennis shoes. I would. I'm actually the funny the funny story. about me having a tennis shoe collection. is I would take my dogs to the dog park. and I'd always be in hills. >> at the dog [laughter] park. >> trying to walk in grass. >> Oh yeah. >> Just sinking. >> Well, that's the problem is I would. always screw up my hills because I was.

at the dog park and I was like, "Mother, I'm I ruined another pair of heels." I'm. [laughter] like I'm like, "Okay, I'm. going to have to not run Hills and kind. of find some tennis shoes, some cute. tennis shoes." I mean, I would wear. tennis shoes to the gym, right? But then. I was like, "You know what? I'm going to. get into this like cute tenn tennis shoe. vibe." So, I have like every color in. the world. >> What kind What kind do you wear? Like. >> um. >> is Nike your thing? What? Like. Oh, is it? Y.

>> Yeah, it's all about color. It's like I. mean I have my. >> So, it doesn't matter the brand, just. the color. I got my high-end sneakers, right, to do that whatever it's Dolce or. whatever Louis Vuitton. I got those. sneakers for like cute sweaters and. stuff. But like to the gym, I love my. freaking Sketchers. >> I love that. >> Believe it or not, everybody's like, "What?" I'm like, "They're the most. comfiest and they come in so many cute. colors.". I I adore them and and every I do have.

my Nikes of course like that, but it's. more about. um. taking my outfit and and coordinating it. all together. >> Where does where does your style come. from? Because your style is iconic. I. mean, there I think your style has. influenced. >> a ton of women, especially in this. industry, girls that are, you know, married to rappers or dating rappers or. with rock stars. Like, you have your own. style. Where does it come from? Has it. always been like that? >> Well, I always like what the girls were.

wearing in the strip clubs. So, I always. tried to take that and incorporate my. own thing in and wear it out. >> to the real clubs and I just kind of. like kind of morphed it into my own. thing. But I was like, why can't I wear. it out? Like, why? I mean, they look. cute. It looks cute on, you know, and I. try to transcend a little bit of strip. vibe into like. >> I love it. >> A conservative vibe, if you can say, and. kind of mesh it together.

>> Yeah. [laughter]. >> And make it It's so funny cuz um. >> conservative and coco in the same in the. same sentence. I I'm not sure. >> I know. I know. Not sure if we can say. that. >> I know how. No, I know. There's got to. be another word for that, but um. >> I wear stripper heels on every red. carpet. >> Every red carpet. >> as like as like a as testament to stay. true to myself. Okay. you know, so like. every and under every gown that I wear. on the red carpet, I've got my clear. stripper heels on. >> Well, sometimes you need a little height. in those long dresses, too, you know? So, I I get that. But yours is more of a.

>> just I want to still like I might be on. the red carpet, but I'm still, you know, that girl that. >> you know what's in right now. And I was. like I started that trend and like. everybody just called me hooker and. prostitute from it. But the see-through, anything see-through now, like they're. wearing the see-through thing on red. carpets and like. >> Dakota Dakota Johnson just wore a. freaking see-through outfit. Nobody. called her a prostitute, >> right? And I was doing that.

>> in the 2000s and I was called names and. I'm like, "Oh, that's interesting how. it's now a style." I started that style. a long time ago. >> I feel like anybody who has body and I'm. not Dakota Johnson has a beautiful body. She just doesn't have like bodies like. us with like the abs the way you know. like. >> so when it's when you put it on you it. just looks a little bit like okay what. are they trying to do right more. hydration. >> yes yes that totally the reason if you.

just kind of put it on a body you know. >> a little boobs is a little bit w. >> right like you know like thin model thin. bodies look completely different in. something that we would like wear so. >> where Have you always had that style. though? Even growing up, were you always. like into like matching or. >> Yeah, I was very m Okay, so I remember. um I would get my kids from Target. >> when. >> Oh my god, kids. You're bringing it. back. >> Kids [laughter]. kids from Target and you can get them. for like $6. I remember I was like when.

I was like 10 to like 14, I could go and. get every color from KS. I I mean blue, you know, fluorescent yellow or. whatever. And I remember having a. collection of kids. That was like my. first collection of hill I mean of um of. just shoes in general. And I would be. very matchy matchy. I'm talking if I'm. like right now I'm wearing red and with. red lipstick. I can't mix and match. I. can't wear pink and red.

>> Yeah. No, that would drive me crazy too. >> It's just like a blow my brains out. Like I need it to all match. If the. yellow has to match the yellow. It can't. be off yellows. like it's very matchy. matchy. >> Do you have a little bit of OCD? >> Oh, definitely. >> A lot of it. >> actually. Um it's gotten worse. I've. noticed. >> Yeah. >> As I've gotten older, >> I can't leave the house without things. being in order. >> cuz when I come back from wherever I am, it has to be like perfect perfect like. model home vibe, right?

>> Like like I just walked in a model home. and nothing. And it's kind of strange. cuz people and dogs live in it. >> Your I get that too. your clothes though. and how you have to match and stuff. That's a form of OCD also. >> Everything is very very I mean it. someone picks up I'm picking up after. them and I don't I don't tell them do it. like I just do it. I I just personally. pick up after people. >> It feels better to you. It's like a a. release almost to to be able to just. know that if it's going to get cleaned, it's going to get cleaned the right way. the first time.

>> Oh yeah. And I don't mind it. And as a. matter of fact, uh I clean my own house. and I have uh cleaners that come like. once a month because we have a lot of. chrome and and mirror in our house. So. they basically come and they help me. with all the shiny stuff in the house. and I like to pick up like I'll pick up. before they come. >> Me too. Yep. Same. I don't want to. >> look like a mess. >> Yeah. I feel bad if they come in and the. house is like looking like a tornado ran. through it. Like they they'll [laughter]. be like who are these people living. here? I don't want to be judged by the.

people who are coming to clean up after. us. Yeah. Totally. >> Exactly. I got mad one time that um Ice. I got out of bed, Ice was still in bed. and I had to leave out of the house and. he had someone come to the house when I. was gone and he hadn't made the bed. And. I was like, >> it bothered me someone was in our. bedroom and our bed was not made. I'm. like the one time [laughter] that I. hadn't made the bed and someone comes in. our room. Really? >> And you like think about it all day.

long. Like it really just. >> really I make the bed. So I make the bed. every day. >> You have to. >> cuz you have to kind of It's like. restarts the day and finishes the day. So I make it whether you see it or not. It's made. Fluff the pillows. Whatever. There. It's ready. And. >> I can't get into a bed that's not made. at my house. I feel I feel so off. It's. like you have to just peel the covers. back, get back, you know, like just I I. get what you're saying. >> I I have a really gross story that um we. we just walked into this hotel. We um. just checked in and Ice was there to do.

a lecture middle of nowhere um like. Midwest. Uh and we checked in and the. first guy was up there like 24 hours. I. like I need I need a nap. I need a nap. We just checked in, walked into the. room, got into the bed, and I don't know. why I even just like wanted to look over. at the sheets. >> Oh, no. >> But I realized that it was just covered. in like pubes. >> No, >> it was so disgusting that I was, first.

of all, I have OCD. And I was like, >> no, >> does someone deliberately get into this. bed? >> That is a hell no. Okay, I'm not doing. that. [laughter]. >> I was like, this is noing way. No way. I. was like, and they made the bed. That's. the thing. The bed was freaking made. They didn't They either didn't clean the. sheets from the night before. >> Or that someone came in before us and. they just only used it for the day. I. don't know what it was. >> They just sprinkled the pubes on the. pillow. >> But I was I was like, "What the heck?".

>> But it was so much of it. I'm like, "How. hairy was this person?" [laughter]. >> Oh god. >> I was like I had a call down. I was. like, "Someone needs to clean these. sheets or like do something about this.". And they're like, "Why is there a. problem?" And I had to tell them the. whole thing. And I'm like, not trying to. be but I was like, "This is. nasty.". >> That's not being [laughter] That. that if anybody has a right to. it's when there's pubes just overflowing. in their bed. >> It's overflowing, too. Girl, I'm telling. you, >> girl, I'm not I can't.

>> Oh my god. But I I am very very. ridiculous when it comes to cleaning. I'm constantly cleaning after people and. it hasn't to the point where I go to bed. at night thinking I need to clean this. but when I first wake up I need to make. sure I clean this. Why am I thinking. about cleaning? >> Where do you think that stems from? >> Everything has to be perfect. >> Yeah. >> Everything. Everything. Me, my hair, my. nails, everything. My health, my family, everything in my life I feel like has to.

be in order. Do you think that stems. from when you were 10 years old and you. got scared and thought you were going to. lose your mom and then so like that. jarred something in you to be like, "Okay, I need to get healthy. I need to. make sure the house is clean. I need to. make sure this is perfect." you know, because you just that was like your way. of dealing with. >> I felt like I was definitely uh a even. though I was a child, I was all I felt. like I was a mother too, you know, like. I I like I wanted my mom to be proud of. me, but at the same time, I wanted to.

take action and like, you know, help. her, >> you know, and I know my sister wasn't. going to do it. She was younger than me. and it was only her and I. So, I was. very much a take action. But I've been. always been wanting to. be perfect in every way. And it's a. problem. It is definitely a problem in. my head. I'm constantly battling myself. like like you don't need to feel this. way, but. it's some it's somehow you get through. life and it makes life better because.

it's gotten you to where you are. >> Exactly. >> Exactly. I I understand that. wholeheartedly. >> I hear about the Michael Jackson who. family pushing and pushing him. Yeah. At. some Yeah. They were abusive, but they. got him to where he was. He He was push. push push. I feel like that's kind of. me. I'm like I I push myself into better. better. How do I make myself even more. better? You know, [laughter]. >> and I mean that's why you're literally. sitting here today because you are who. you are. And I mean, I think that as.

long as it's not hurting your soul or. hurting you in any way, if that OCD is. fueling your fire, then, you know, lean. into it and consider it a strength. instead of a weakness. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. I like that. >> Yeah. Totally. So, I want to move along. to your love story because your love. story is so freaking inspiring. You and. Ice have been together 25 years. >> Yeah. Well, coming up 25 years, so yeah, >> that's insane. Like that is. >> Mhm. >> That is one of probably one of the.

longest lasting relationships in. Hollywood. Like you guys have stood the. testament of time. How have you guys. done that? And like take me on that. journey. >> First of all, everybody always asks, "What's the secret? What's the secret?". First of all, you got to really love. each other. I mean, because you know. that will bypass, you know, liking. someone, loving someone, and then if you. don't really love them, it'll just like, you know, go into dead space, I guess, right? But um it is a good love story. It's I. think because we're so much alike,

>> you know, like we always say yin and. yang. If you if I was a guy, >> if I So I'm a girl, of course. If I was. a guy, I would be Ice. >> I would be exactly, you know, be rough. and tough, you know, be like gangster. guy, you know, with style. Then he would. be the opposite. you know, if he was a. girl, he would be like me, >> you know, the outlandish, outgoing, you. know, crazy chick, you know,

>> uh so we compliment each other cuz we're. kind of like the same person, you know, and we know that. And we also let each. other shine. >> Yes. That is huge in relationships. >> because a lot of people don't want the. other person to shine, you know, and so. I love when he shines, when he does his. thing, you know, when he's having his. moment. I love that. That's who he is. You know, there's a reason why he's a. famous guy is because he does what he. does. And then he lets me shine, you.

know. And so when we walk into the room, we have the same energy, >> you know, he's not up here or I'm not. down here or I'm not up here and she's. down here. I feel like when some people. feel um like they don't have the same. energy and. >> that throws each other off, I guess you. could say. Um. >> they become jealous of one another. >> and we're always on the same level. We're just like, you know,

>> we take it as it comes. We're very very. very uh fun people, too. You know, we. just want to like live life and have fun. and also work really hard. We're That's. the thing is people see us out on red. carpets doing our thing, having fun, but. we also work really hard. We actually. work more than doing all those exciting. things. >> You guys make hustle look easy. >> and there's a lot of hustling going. along along the way. He's a big hustler. and and I think that's another thing.

I'm a big hustler, too. So, I'm I just know what it feels like. to hustle and we just let each other be. But our story actually just kind of came. out of nowhere when So, I was 22. Let's. go back to this. He was 22. Oh, I was. 22. He was 44 at the time. So, I was. almost 23. Um, and I was then working in. the Playboy world. So, I was doing all. the parties, you know. Yes. hang out.

with Hef, all that stuff. All the girls. It was funny because at the time. >> there was like six girls, you know, and. >> you know, they want to say it, but they. had some competition, you know, they. were they they were all budding for like. the best, you know, person to be, but. you know, I I was around that whole. genre. And uh uh that's what I was doing. at the time. Now, Ice was doing a um. video, a music video for a movie that he.

had done. >> And so, my agent told me to come with my. friend to this particular video and we. were playing models. So, we were models. on the set. Okay. >> So, at the time, believe it or not, I. didn't know who I was. Didn't even know. I'm like I heard his name, but didn't. know who he was. I mean, he was that was. that was before my time. His music was. before my time. You know, I'm still a. young thing, you know? [laughter].

>> I'm a little right. >> I'm like from the valley, you know? I. actually had a valley accent and. everything. I've actually toned down, but I used to say like and oh my god. I. still say oh my god a lot. >> I say dude, I say bro. Like cuz you. know, growing up in Vegas, I it's a. valley, too. >> Totally. Yeah. I've toned it down. I've. t cuz [laughter] I realized I did a lot. out here. Yeah. >> So, um, but so I'm just this white girl. from the valley. I I'm I'm working on. the set and the producer on the set.

apparently was trying to chair ice up at. the time. So, he grabbed me and he. grabbed me right out of the bathroom. stall. I just went to the bathroom. I I. didn't even have anything up right. [laughter] yet. And they grabbed me. He's like, "I want I want you uh to come. with me. I want to introduce you to. someone." So, I didn't even know who I. was being introduced to. >> Do we know what he was upset about? uh. he just didn't want to be there. He he. just he had just started Law and Order. Oh, >> okay. >> So, he was from California. We're both. from California, right? He just started.

Law and Order and you know, it was just. brand new. It was like he was in two. years of it. He wasn't even a main. character at that point. And uh so he. had to fly all the way to California to. do this for his friend. He didn't want. to be there. So to cheer him up, they. grabbed me. And so I walked up behind. him. Now he was wearing a red snake skin. suit. I saw that and I fell in love. I. [laughter] I I didn't even see his face. >> She was like, I don't care. I just want.

that one. >> I just saw his suit and I like the suit. because I'm a flamboyant chick and I. mean I was wearing like a silver sequin. like tube top at the time. So I was like. shiny a shiny ball [laughter] at the. moment. So I was like, "Okay." They he. turned around and he was also wearing a. pimp hat which my I have to add. He's. got the pimp pad on. He turned around. and he was smiling big. Now we actually. have a moment. The very first moment we. met someone took a picture.

>> A very first moment he turned around, smiled, and that was the moment we met. >> So we actually I posted online every now. and then. >> So he turned around and then I and we. you know said hi da da da. and I walked off. Well, there was so. many people around us when we met. He. just had to regroup himself. He was. like, "What just happened?" Now, he says. when I walked off, he was just, you. know, looking at my face. He just saw my. teeth right instantly because I was so.

close to him. But when I walked off, he. realized I had a little bit more. thickness, you know, than he. anticipated. And he's [laughter] like, he's like, "Wait, what just happened? I. need to regroup myself." So, he came. back to me when no one's around and he. says, "Um, excuse me. Um, I just came back and wanted to say hi. Are you married? Can I flirt with you?". And I was. >> and he's and I said, >> "A respectful king.". >> Very. Yeah. He was just all about trying. to get my attention and and he's like, "Um, he's like, "Have you ever.

considered dating a gangster rapper?". [laughter]. >> Okay, now first of all, take you back. I. don't know the difference between. rappers. They were all the same back. then. [laughter] I didn't know there was. a difference, >> right? >> I was like, okay, >> what a smooth line though. >> Never considered dating a gangster. rapper. And I was like, >> well, if he's nice. And he's like, well, you take the end off nice so you get. ice. >> Oh jeez, look at. >> what a plan. >> I was like, were you like, how did you.

know I was going to use that word? [laughter] Nice. Ice. Like, how did you. know? He's [gasps] like the God word. like the gods gave me that word. I. didn't even know that was gonna come to. my head. I was like that [clears throat]. was actually pretty smooth. And that. from that moment he was he was trying to. you know when you're sitting on the set. for many hours he's trying to gather and. keep my attention. Yeah. >> So he starts doing like magic tricks. with like with uh quarters and stuff. >> He turns into a little boy. >> Yes. Just trying to flirt. >> So just stick stay with me. Oh, so that.

was like the moment we met and he left. to go back to New York and I went um. actually I was living at Arizona at the. time, right next door to California, people don't know, right next door. And. I was I went to uh Arizona. He had given. me a two-way pager. Now, for people that. don't know what a two-way pager is, I. do. [laughter]. >> It is what you did with text. That's the. very first texting. you text. It was. like there's a little computer that. opened up like a like a little flip. It.

was like a little computer little flip. and you just text. Now. >> we that's how we dated. We dated on that. um cuz he was on the set most hours of. the day and we couldn't talk on the. phone. So we dated for like two months. through that little pager. I feel like. you get to know somebody pretty well. when you have limited time to like, you. know, be in their energy and you ha. you're just forced to kind of. communicate like that way because you. have to show personality and you have. to, you know, like. >> Yeah.

>> You have to dig deep to like keep. somebody interested. >> and then with the and you can think. about your words, >> you know, when you're out of that uh. zone, you know, like you're kind of. focused and preparing what you're going. to say. So, it was actually a really. good way to to date to tell you the. truth. And then he suggested coming out. to New York and uh and I'm and pretty. much I came to New York and the rest is. history. I remember I came back with a. suitcase, right? And uh I came to New.

York and I had to leave kind of. suddenly. I had to go back and I was. like, I'll be back. And he's like, that's a famous words. Girls never come. back. Never. He didn't want you to. leave. He [laughter] Yeah, right. Right. But I said, "No, I'll leave my suitcase. here. >> because girls are going to come back for. their shit.". >> I was like, [laughter] "I'll leave my. suitcase here to know that I'll be back. cuz I want him." Because that was more. of a sentimental moment there, like I'm. going to leave this behind, so I'll be.

back. Don't worry. And sure enough, I. was back. But I was I I feel like there. was such a deep connection. >> with one another. It's like it's more. than soulmates. It's like we're we know. we're here for each other. >> Twin flames. >> Yeah. Twin flames. Yes. Yes. And I feel. like that's we're we're meant to be. It's just meant to be. And here we are. almost 25. >> Getting 25 years is insane. Getting with. him at such a young age. Did you have to.

go cuz I know he's a little bit older. than you. Did you have to like kind of. sew your wild oats while you were with. him? Like did you go cuz I've heard you. say before in other interviews like. you've done drugs and stuff like that. Did you have to go through that while. you were with him and did he allow you? >> Well, I was trying to get him open like. [laughter]. I was like, believe it or not, he was a. conservative one and I was like I was. the wild one like okay you cuz you have. to go back into the era I was in. >> Right. Of course. And there's nothing.

there's no shame in your past. It made. you who you are. >> And I don't feel shamed at all. It's. just kind of weird that everybody is. like, "Oh, I would never do that." I'm. like, "But you didn't live in my time.". >> Yeah. Well, good. You're not me. So off. >> Yeah. >> So I was, you know, very much a party. girl and I always just loved having fun, you know. I had. >> Before Ice or when youce got Yeah. Before Yeah. Before Ice because I lived. in that world. I was in the Playboy. world. I w I grew up pretty much in the. '9s. Everybody It was like nothing. People were doing drugs. So it was like.

everybody was doing it. >> Oh, I started experimenting at 15, 16. So. >> And but it wasn't a weird thing. Now. they make you feel weird about it. Everybody kind of was doing it. And you. know, um, I got with Ice and he was very. straight laced, believe it or not. >> Yeah. Still is. I'm trying to always get. him to do stuff. >> I think that's so funny because he's. like this big gangster rapper, so you. think he would be down for anything, but. I guess growing up in the streets, it. makes you a little more guarded. >> He He's very much like has to be in. control like has to make sure things,

you know, if we go out to a club. >> Sounds like somebody else I know. [laughter]. >> That's true actually. but in more in a. club, but he wants to make sure things. are right in because things can jump off. in the club. >> Oh, absolutely. >> You know, things can go haywire and he. wants. >> someone even step foot in them because. >> they are cuz I've noticed about um with. ice. guys like to push his buttons. He likes. they like it because they want him. >> to get mad. >> And I noticed that when you go to the.

club scene, they're more so to do it, you know, because alcohol's flowing. are. going. >> Yeah. So, he was never into wanting to. get drunk or do anything cuz he wanted. to be on point just in case something. went down. >> Right. >> Meanwhile, I'm all over the place. I'm. I'm I'm the girl dancing on the tables, you know? I'm. >> But I love that he let you be. And I. love that he kind of let you figure out. the woman that you are. >> Mhm. >> In all phases. >> And he still does. He just lets me be. You know, I I'm still kind of a wild.

one, but like tone down in a good way. I. feel like mama, >> you know, I'm very much everybody always. wants to go out with me because I'm very. much the life of the party, [laughter]. you know? I'm always trying to get. everybody to have fun. Like I don't want. you to be in my group and not have fun. I would not want you to sit there, right, >> and be grouchy. Yeah. You know, [laughter] so I'm always the one like, I. have a shot everywhere. Let's do it. >> And then he's sitting back cool. >> A just letting me do whatever. >> He's proud of you. Just sitting back.

watching. He's like my little guardian. angel. So yes, but he he lets me do what. um. >> he he he says he doesn't he never wants. to stop the party, he says. >> But I mean now it's a completely. different vibe. Now we hardly go out. We. have to stay home. I have school nights. like you know. >> But I'm sure he loves that too. >> I think so too. So like now he wants me. to get in cute little things at home. >> I mean. >> like so I walk around cute little. things. Chanel's like [laughter].

>> like why does daddy like you to wear. that? He's like, he loves booty shorts. Okay. What do you want me to do? Like he. loves booty. I like wearing too, but. like I don't know. I It's It is kind of. hard when it gets cold out [laughter]. here. >> Yeah. >> Coco's like I'm trying to wear booty. shorts and a trench coat. >> I know. No, I'm just trying to make it. happen. That That's the thing is with. Ice. Um he works hard at what he does. He is He's Mr. Hustler. He's doing it. all. And if he wants a little booty.

shorts in his life when he gets home, why not? >> I think that's amazing. And that's a. good wife. >> I'm trying. Yeah, I'm trying to fulfill. my wifely duties. And my wifely duties. is wear booty shorts. >> I think he's lucky to have somebody who. feels like that. I'm the same way with. my husband. If what daddy wants, daddy. gets. And period. >> Well, you know, I need his um if I pull. out my cell phone right now, his name. that pops up is Big Daddy. >> A I love I call him big daddy because. >> that's what Chanel Chanel calls him big. daddy. So, uh, so I'll say big daddy and.

I'll say that weird times and so Chanel. gets so embarrassed now. [laughter] I. was like, "Okay, big daddy. Hey, big. daddy." She goes. >> like [laughter] so embarrassed. But. yeah, it's more of like now it's a joke. between us. But [gasps]. >> yeah, >> I love that. Do you ever feel like. people underestimate your role in Isa's. success? Because behind every successful. man is a woman who's got his back. I. believe. >> I definitely I definitely Ice has a.

place. Ice has a place. He is a man. place. You know, he goes, he does his. job, works hard, works hard for his. money. Um, and I feel like I'm that my. place is keep the house right. That is. what I manage. I manage the house. I. keep it right. I keep everything sane. because when he comes out from the. streets into the home, he can now relax. So, I feel like we have we have an. old-fashioned type of love, a. oldfashioned relationship. You wouldn't.

see us having an oldfashioned. relationship, but we know each other's. places. Nowadays, I feel like women must. be independent, like independent, independent, indep I'm indep. Okay. Well, if you use that, you're. never going to get a man. if you ever say that because men they. want a woman to be submissive and I know. probably get a lot of hate from that but. >> no I preach this on my podcast all the. time. >> I'm like I'm I'm I'm very very uh a.

power woman right. >> you can be independent and still be. submissive for a person that you love. >> out of love and that's what I do with. Ice submissive you know I just bring it. down for him a man wants to be a man. >> yes. >> why can't a woman be a woman there's the. reason why the world goes round. >> and uh I just I've always been on that. and I feel like that has to do a lot. with our relationship. It's why it's. lasted because we know our identities. We know what we should do here now.

That's why these I hear so many women. ask me I have so many emails of women, why don't I have this? What do I need to. do? What do I need to do? Why do I'm. like stop [snorts] being trying to be. such a boss. >> Yeah. >> Bring it down. You could be a boss in. your world, but bring it down a little. bit. You know, >> men got to feel like they're protectors. >> Yes. >> You know, they're protectors. They're. >> And they also want to um I don't want to. use the word damsel in distress, but. they they want some they want to feel.

like they're taking care of business, like they're able to be a man. You have. to let a man be a man. >> Taking care of business. That's right. >> Right. And then they they get lost. And. I feel like there a lot of these. relationships they get they're getting. twisted now and they don't know what to. do. But I think if you just stick with. the regular program how it's always. worked for thousands of years then it's. not it won't be a problem. >> Preach it, sister. I say that all the. time. One of the biggest fights that my. husband and I had when we first got. together because I came in so headstrong.

and was like, I'm independent. I can do. this. I don't need you. Blah blah blah. He said to me one day, he said, "Bunny, I am outside slaying dragons all day. long." He said, "I don't want to come. into my house and have to slay dragons, too." And I was just like, that. resonated with me so much. And ever. since then, I have made sure you can ask. them if when daddy comes home, it is. peaceful. It is everything that he. needs. >> And we have we don't have any discourse. in the house because he's out working. hard. I'm out working hard. And when we.

come home, we just want to enjoy each. other and enjoy the moment and not have. any drama or arguing or fighting or. egos. Like, check that at the door. Yeah. You know, >> it's true. Yeah. >> You don't need to do it in front of each. other. >> No, not at all. >> It should be a safe place when you walk. in the door. As a matter of fact, >> I love going to the spa and at the water. sounds and the chill music that I made. my home that way. If you walk in my. house, you hear Pandora chill. The chill. vibe. You hear water fountains like I. want that fill. You know, when you come.

into my house, you're going to feel. great energy. >> Yeah. >> And I I just want that to be a known. fact that you'll be okay at home. >> Leaving out the door, maybe not like. you're leaving out the door, >> but when you come in the home, I'm the. manager of this house. >> Yes. [laughter]. >> And you'll be okay. >> Your home is your sanctuary. So, I'm going to wrap this up and I want. to ask you a couple of rapid fire. questions if that's okay with you. >> Okay. Well, I think my brain my brain is.

slower than you think, actually. >> You got this, sister. You're so smart. I've been sitting here talking to you. for an hour and a half. All right. What's the most extra thing you've ever. done just to look good? >> I mean, I've spent thousands of dollars. on tanning salons. Um. um I Botox starting at 27. [gasps] I love Botox, but. >> Same. I will. Same. >> But I haven't had Botox in like a year. because of peptides, by the way. Um. >> which I want to talk to you about that. before you leave. >> Yeah, I feel like that's kind of taken.

over. Um what have I to look good? >> I think you answered it. Tanning and. Botox and all that stuff. I cuz I was. thinking the other day I should have um. wrote down how much I've spent as like a. tanning membership since I was like 18. >> You could put one in your house. That's. what I did. I I bought a spray tan. machine and put it in my house. >> Well, I I bought a tanning machine. Yeah, >> actually, but I don't use it there for. some reason. >> Probably because you like to get out of. the house and it's like your like Yeah, it's like your escape.

>> All right. What's more powerful, cleavage or eye contact? >> Uh actually eye contact. >> Mhm. because you can like stare into. somebody's soul. >> and sometimes that's why I don't like to. wear sunglasses. I'll wear it on top of. my head as a fashion statement. But uh. yes, I think once they see my eyes, I'm. like I'm telling a lot. >> Yeah, I love what's going on. >> Yes. If someone handed you the ox cord. right now, what's the first song you'd. play? >> Oh, anything '8s. >> I love 80s music, too. >> Anything. I listen to it all day. I turn.

on my Alexa, turn on 80s music. I love. it. >> I I I love 80s. It just brings me back. I. >> It's just a good It's a good time when. there was great music. >> Yes. >> Bring it back. >> I I love it. They need to bring '8s back. actually. >> No, for real. What's the most outrageous. rumor you've ever heard about yourself? >> Outrageous rumor. I mean, I think I. talked about this a long time. Everybody. thought I was I had uh uh implants in my. butt. >> Yeah. That's all natural, right?

>> It's all natural. And the thing is, I. had to go and actually do a ultrasound. to prove it cuz I thought that was kind. of crazy. I was like, you you have to. see cuz I have implants. I have implants. and I've changed them out thousand. times. I'm open book here. Like, but. your. >> perfect that people think that it's. fake. >> Well, you know what? If you get your. waist small, the smaller you get your. waist, the more ass will look big. Yeah. But I have, if you look at my parents, they have really, really good jeans and.

they're naturally muscular. So I have. the ability to go to the gym and. actually like I tell ice, give me some. mac and mac and cheese and mashed. potatoes. That helps. >> That is that's my mixture. My concoction. get. >> Yes, that's my concoction. Mashed. >> potatoes and mashed potatoes. It is. All. right. And um yeah, there's like some. there's these squats that I do and. they're really really hard, but you have. to get them really high and you get that. certain I mean it's like. >> shelf.

>> shelf on the top. >> and um I I may that's why people like. see me sometimes I'm like smaller than I. am, sometimes I'm bigger. I fluctuate. because. >> you're a woman. >> Sometimes in the gym you could tell my. muscle's down. Then when I go to the gym. I have muscle I go back and forth, back. and forth. And that's why you know I. don't have implants because I go up and. down. implants would stay the same the. whole time. >> Yeah. And they would they would be like. hard and like I've seen them. They look. like baseballs. >> and not jiggly. >> Yeah. >> I just I would feel like you wouldn't be. able to sit long cuz I can't like just.

to lay on my chest at night. It hurts. sometimes. So, how would you do that. with an implant? I I just think that's. interesting to me. But. >> yeah, we'd have to ask somebody who has. them cuz I I I've seen a couple of my. girlfriends who have had it done and. they just look so painful. Not that. we're hating on people who have implants. in their asses because Interesting. though, right? >> Very. Yes. >> Well, when I'm around someone, I always. like, can I touch? >> Yeah. Always. Always. When I used to. have implants, too, and I mine were. pretty big like yours. I had an expplant. done in 2019. >> Laying on my back sometimes like any.

position like And I couldn't imagine. >> You took your implants out? >> I took them out in 2019. >> Out? >> Yep. All out. >> That's amazing. Do you feel so free? >> Oh, yeah. It's amazing. I I It was the. best thing I ever did. Do I I miss the. the fake boob cleavage? Absolutely. But. at the same time, >> but it looks so good though. You look. like you have something though. >> I appreciate that. You know, women don't. realize how resilient our bodies are. And if you get your boobs take your. implants taken out, if you give yourself. a year, your boobs will fluff back up.

the majority of the time. Not all the. time. >> What if you had them for, you know, a. thousand years? >> I had mine for 13, 14 years, and I took. them out. >> I've had my I had mine, my first one's. at 18. >> Yeah. I've changed them out several. times. I got bigger bigger. I actually. were I was actually bigger. I actually. reduced them, believe it or not. >> How big are they now? >> If you um they're. double D's. Okay. Double D. Whatever. >> So, what were they before? Cuz these. these are.

>> they were they were like like they were. up. They were so high. >> They were so high and then I just. brought them down. Uh this is several. years before breastfeeding for I. >> I actually had an accident on Peep Show. I um there's there's a moment on stage. where the girls in a blackout when we. when the when the stage goes blacked. out, all the dancers run in complete. blackness, but they know the spots where. to run to. >> Well, apparently I was off just a smidge.

and I ran right into the Wonder Wall. It's like the corner of the LED screen. >> And I ran right in the middle of it and. I and I went backwards. >> and I I actually uh passed out. >> Oh no. >> During the show. >> behind the show and and it was a corner. from here all the way down down my boob. all the way was a bruise. >> Oh [laughter] no. >> A corner. >> Were you okay? >> When I woke up I didn't realize I did.

it. I grabbed my boob. Something had happened to my boob. >> No. I was like, and I looked down. because it was in the middle of show. I. was like, "Oh my god, it's still it's. still here. It's still, oh my god, what. h what happened?" I was asking everybody. cuz I didn't know how long I was out. And I went I gotten it together, went. right back on stage like nothing. happened. >> You're a soldier. And two two years. later, >> I started seeing that my breast was. moving. >> And I was like, I know I did something.

on that stage. I know I did something. But I was trying to hold out. I didn't. want to change my implants because I. knew I wanted to have a child and I. didn't want to have to change my implant. and then have a child and change them. out again. >> So, I was trying to hold out and then. and then uh Ice is like, "You should. probably go get that checked." And so, I. did. I went to the doctor. Sure enough, I had a ruptured implant. >> Oh, no. >> But one thing with silicone is it stays. in the pocket. >> So, it it's it's not it wasn't leaking. into the body. It was stay in the. pocket. So, >> that was my next question if any of it.

leaked out. >> No, it just stays there. When you have a. pocket, it stays there. So, when he came. when he when he um he told me he's like, "Yeah, it was ruptured and he changed. it." And then I was then I got pregnant. that month. >> [laughter]. >> I got some new nice set of boots boots. and I got pregnant and then I breastfed. for six years. >> So, just to touch base because I know we. we glazed over it really quick and and. then I'll let you go [clears throat]. because I know we're we could sit here. and talk for hours literally. Um, are. you still breastfeeding Chanel or did. you guys finally wean off or is that.

something that you guys still do? >> So, the whole concept of of the. breastfeeding thing, it wasn't like I. was feeding her cuz she needed a meal, >> right? she was able to eat, you know, by. a year, you know, full like solids. It. was more of a bonding experience and. then more of like, okay, I'll give you. the milk, but it was more like she. wanted to be around me. >> So, I was like, I'm going to let her. stop when she wants to stop. She's not. going to be 16 on my boob. Like,

[laughter] she's going to eventually. figure out, okay, this is kind of. strange or weird and stop. And that. happened around six. No. >> So that was around six, which was still. extremely long amount of time. apparently. But in Europe, they're doing. till. >> seven. >> Like there it's nothing to them. We. Americans think that's weird. But. >> I don't think there's really anything. wrong with it as long as you know it's. >> just it's your home, you know? So it's. whatever you guys are doing and it's. she's she's not feeling weird about it. You're not feeling weird. It's not a.

weird thing. I think. >> us as a world we sexualize everything. and it's not like it's innocent. It's. mother daughter. >> and it was mo mostly when she went to. sleep she wanted me to be there. So it. was more of like comfort a comfort thing. with her. Um but I got so many people. that loved it. Like they were on my. side. I had everybody come out of the. woodwork when it comes to breastfeeding. ladies. >> They were like so on my side. And I was. like, "Oh, this is so nice." Because it.

was I was the only one speaking about. it. And I'm like, "Why is it so hard?". Like people have been doing this for. thousands of years. Because the world. shames everybody for everything. >> Like it's not a big thing. It's the. boob. >> Come on. So to this day though, she's. obsessed with boobs. >> Oh, I bet. >> She [laughter] loves boobs. I think. she's like she's always very comforted. She's like pillows and stuff like that. So she's like sitting always sitting. there laying on me and then it's just a. really nice moment because it's like. it's not going to be like this when they. get. >> into the teenage years, you know? So.

>> I'm like loving every moment I can with. Chanel. >> Just eat it up. You're a great mom. >> You're a great mom. You're a great wife. You are an icon. And please don't ever. let anything these say online ever get. to you because you know who you are. You. know your legacy that you've built and. you have literally stood the test of. time for decades and stayed relevant and. that is almost impossible to do in this. world today. So just always know that. you are that girl. >> A thank you. I' I've been it's been hard.

because it's almost like people want me. to transition on my Instagram, you know, I'm I'm very much you can see me. I love. my mother's side and everybody wants me. to transition into something like what. do you want me to transition? I'm going. to stay true to who I am, you know, whatever. I'm going to be a great mother. but a sexy great mother. >> Yeah. It's like why do I have to get a. mumu or something? >> I don't know why you can't be sexy and. be a mom. Like this is this is such a. weird thing that people in the freaking.

internet world have like come up with. and it's like. >> right. >> I get that maybe it makes some people. uncomfortable because their moms weren't. sexy or maybe they didn't grow up in the. same lifestyles that we have but you can. still be hot. >> and still be a great mother. >> Right. It's it's tr the truth. And I. feel like I'm I'm um showing confidence. in the house. >> with Chanel or anybody that's in my. family. I'm trying to even teach my um. my nieces too cuz they're going through. an odd stage, you know, like teenage.

life. And I'm like I was always very. confident of who I am. And for some. reason, when you have confidence, you're. able to get further. >> because you're not hiding in the. shadows. So, I'm trying to teach that. confidence. So, there's something to it. Yes. You know, okay. Overconfidence. I. get it. But there's only one go. >> Yeah. Exactly, [laughter]. baby. >> Only one go. I'm not going to tone down. now. Why would I tone down now? [laughter]. >> Turn down for what? Right.

>> I know. I was like 46 years old. Be like. 90 100. >> Baby, keep doing you. Keep doing you. You look beautiful. You are a beautiful. soul. Your energy is so pure. I wish. that people could actually like sit with. you like I have for the past two hours. and get to just talk to you and feel. your your essence. They would totally. understand you. And. >> I can't believe we made this happen. you. know, we we finally made it because when. you came to me and then I was like, "Oh, I have to like what's going on? I have. to get into this. What's I'm like, if.

Yeah, I'll come to do your podcast, but. uh I don't know how I'm going to get to. it, right?" [laughter] Cuz you know, being a mother, it's you can't get away. >> Absolutely. No, thank you for making. time today. I really appreciate it. >> No, thank you for having me. This is an. honor. Thank you for coming to me. >> Oh, of course. Absolutely. And. >> you're you're a hot ass babe, too. >> Oh, I appreciate you. >> I love you. I love the fact that when. you came to me, I was like, "Okay, let. me look into this buddy chick. Let's see. what's going on over there." I'm like, "Okay, I get it. I get it. She's very.

similar to me, actually.". >> No, the similarities are crazy. I didn't. want to keep comparing, but like even. how like Ice lets you just be yourself. My husband is 100% that person. I saw a. video or an interview where I was like, >> they were asking him, "Don't you hate. that your wife takes sexy pictures?" And. he's like, "I take the picture." Yeah, >> my husband has literally said in. interviews, if you marry a show pony, you don't keep it in the freaking stall, you know? Or like if you marry a sports. car, you don't keep it in the garage. >> That's ice. >> Like that's my husband. We got to get. them together. They will get along so.

well. >> Well, I know. I think they would too. I. think they would have a lot of. similarities also. >> Maybe one of these times when we're out. here, we can all go to dinner or. something. >> We're right. We're here. New York. Yes. >> All right. Tell everybody where they can. see you or where they can find you. online if they aren't already following. you. >> Okay. Yeah. So, um Instagram is Coco. Facebook is Coco. Uh, I got on X. I. think it's just Coco's World. Yeah, because that's I never change that up. >> And uh Oh, fans, I guess. >> Yeah, shout it out. I guess. >> what? What? Just Coco over there, right?

You can't There's no number or anything. But yeah, Coco. Um, I think I'm just. Coco on everything. [laughter]. >> Listen, if you guys don't know who Coco. is, you've been living under a rock. >> Yes. Yes. But yeah, follow me on. Instagram because I feel like nowadays. it's almost like they I like I looked at. my um Instagram page and it was like in. this month there's 30 million views says. a lot. So they're they'll look at me. from a distance but they won't follow. me. It's very funny. I mean I have three.

million people but. >> it's very it's very interesting. And I'm. like, well, why won't you? If you're. very interested in me, then follow me, you know, get to know me, you know, and. I try to write back to people, too, on. Instagram. I mean, I I can't spend all. day writing back, but first time I post, I'll try to write back to like questions. right away, but then that will fade out. because it just is too much. But I try. to write back. There was a time on my. Coco's World, I'll say really fast, all. the emails that came through, I replied.

to every single one of them. Now it's. too many. But I I would uh yeah, I just. try to make everybody feel comfortable, including women. I want women to know. that I'm like a real person. And I'm. like I say, someone said, "You're like a. best friend. I'm like everybody's I'm. America's best friend.". >> There you go. >> You know, if you need my assistance, if. you need some help, I'm there. >> as your guide. >> I think young women need a woman like. you to look up to. So, I think that. that's really awesome that you're so. giving with your time when you really.

don't have to be. I mean, just to even. sit there and DM people, to just always. exude positivity, just to always try to. teach women like, hey, you can be. confident, beautiful, a mom. Like, everything that you do is just you don't. have to do it, and you still do it. So, >> I try to go on my way. There's There's. Yes. Everybody always says that. I'm. like, nope. I'll do this till the day I. die. Got I got to make sure everybody's. right. I I want everybody to be happy. with me. >> Well, we all love you, Coco. Thank you. And please, like I said, don't listen to. the online [laughter] cuz the people.

that your tribe that loves you loves you. and the otherers their opinions don't. matter. >> True. True. That's I'm blindsided on. those people. [laughter]. >> Do like you do, Chanel. Don't read the. comments. >> I know. Don't read I don't actually. I I. try to like just answer the questions. and not read the qu I know that's kind. of hard to say, but hey, you know what? And if they get to me, it doesn't bother. me. >> Yeah. because I know that it's pissing. you off in some type of way that. actually you have to say something. Take. the time and say something. Okay.

>> Well, then your life needs to move on. Like, >> yeah. [laughter] Now, obviously, you're. not happy with your life if you're. already leaving comments like that to. somebody that you've never even met. >> Exactly. >> You better come back and visit me, Coco. >> I will. I will. Thank you for coming to. me. I appreciate it. >> Appreciate you. And thank you guys for. tuning in to another episode of Dumb. Blonde. I'll see you guys next week. Bye.