When Suspects Try To Flirt With Police
Criminals who get stopped by police can. often use many violent methods to try. and escape. But what happens when. suspects try to seduce and flirt with. cops to avoid a jail sentence? I'll take everything. Oh, please don't. charge your I want to go to jail. Please. sir. Starting with Naomi Furer. In the early. hours of the 30th of October, this cop. observed a vehicle driving suspiciously. in Florida. At a red light, it was. almost completely over the stop line and. its plates were expired. However, when. he went to pull the driver over, things.
took a turn he wasn't expecting. whatsoever. Your fake cut had scared me when I. walked up. Forgot tomorrow's Halloween. I'm like, "Oh, I know, right?". So, reason I got stopped, a few things. When you're sitting at the light back. here to make the left, you're all the way out in the. intersection. Oh, okay. Like you were past the crosswalk. You. were you were on Toledo Blade for making. the left. Is the car registered to you? Yes, sir. Okay. The tags on the car expired back. in March. Um, and your license is. suspended. The cop should already be. suspicious of the girl he identified as. Naomi Furer given her strange driving.
But the more he talked to her, the more. it seemed that she definitely shouldn't. have been driving. She told the cop she. just come from a Halloween party and had. a wristband that was given out by a bar. in the local area. The cop is now. certain she's over the limit, so he asks. her to step out so she can perform some. tests. But things immediately start to. seem different to his usual stops. Your eyes are bloodshot and flossing. speech is slightly. I'm just very tired that's all. there's al coming up again okay check.
your eyes do a couple exercise okay with. that. keep your head straight just look back. and forth. okay. you're going to take nine heel to toe. steps. one. like that. 13 14. 15. Do you think if I give you a number to. start on you can count backwards to Yes, sir. Okay. I want you to start on the number. 46 and count backwards to the number 29.
39 38 37 36. Can you remember what number I told you. to start? Top one. You said start at 38 and then start at. 49. and I forgot the second one. Okay. Unfortunately for Naomi, the cop wasn't. convinced and determined that she was. way over the legal limit. But right. after he put her in cuffs, she decides. she has a plan to get out of this mess. Do me a favor. Put your hands behind. your back. Put your palms together like. you're praying.
You're under arrest for DUI. DUI. But I am not drunk. Get everything that. you asked me to. Right. Sir, I can't. have a DUI. Please. Sir, I'm from. Switzerland. I can't have a DUI. Please. I don't want to get a white thing. I understand. I won't do dental. Please, sir. I literally stopped. You're not even You're not You're not. even supposed to be driving in the first. place. You have five different. suspensions on your license. You have an. insurance suspension and three fail to. pay traffic tickets. Things are obviously not looking good.
for Naomi. So, when begging doesn't get. her her way, she switches her strategy. to a more seductive method. Are you sure? It's out of my hands tonight. But you're the one arresting you? Yes, I am the one arresting you. But the. decision to make the arrest is already. out of my hands. So, let's walk back. Why? Cuz everything we've done tonight is on. video. Everything. I have a camera here. I have. But you can still make your decision. about who why you're going to arrest me. for what. Do you have a pair of shorts or. something in here that we can put on to. cover you up a little bit? Jersey that.
owner. I'll take everything off. Please don't. charge me, but I don't want to go to. jail. Please, sir. I don't want you to take everything off. I promise I'll have somebody pick me up. and drive me home. I promise. I'm going to show you a little bit of. decency and cover you up. You don't. you don't want to go into jail looking. like that. Thankfully, the cops ignore. her offer and instead opt to cover her. up with a hoodie before they take her. back to jail. Please, can you help me? You can accept. please. We are past that. I need you to sit in. the car. What would I have to do? Nothing. The only thing that you could.
do to not go to jail tonight is not. drive drunk. So, but I wasn't driving drunk at all. Okay. Please have a seat. There's nothing I can do, sir. No, ma'am. Even if somebody picks me up. We're We're past that. A search of Naomi's vehicle recovered. two containers of whiskey and a beer. But back at the station, she refused to. give a breath sample. Her car was. seized, but as of this video's upload, the case is still ongoing, and she has. not been charged. Naomi's attempt at. flirting didn't work at all with these.
cops. But the same can't be said about. Brooke Teague's encounter, which. actually worked out well. So, well, it's. rumored that her and the cop are still. together to this day. Brooke was pulled. over after an officer witnessed her. swerving around the road slightly, a. telltale sign that the driver was either. intoxicated or in need of help. So, he. swiftly pulled her over only to be. greeted in a surprising way. Hey, I'm Officer Smith. May go please. spark. Nice to meet you, Mr. Smith. Um, I've never heard that before. I'm trying. to stop. I appreciate that. Um, hey, so. I'm just stopping you for improper lane.
use. Sorry, I was on the phone. You're on the phone? I'll be honest. Okay. Who are you on the phone with? My baby daddy. I'll show it to you, too. Okay, Zachary. Yeah. How much you have to drink tonight? Only one drink. Just one drink. Final answer. Miller. A Miller lie. Yes. I won't lie to you. A Miller Light. That's That's all you've had. Yes, sir. You can ask Zachary. I don't really want to talk about that. I know you don't, but I'm just saying. Okay. In just this first minute of. conversation, two things become clear. immediately. Brooke has definitely had.
more than one beer to drink, and how. well she and the officer seem to be. getting along already. Both points that. will get increasingly more obvious as. the footage continues. Yeah, I can smell it from across the. car. She's like, I had one Miller light. There's no I wanted to say like a Miller. did that to you. Big Miller. 128 O Miller. Freaking bucket of Miller. All right. Where we at on it? Awesome. Brooke. Yes. Teague. Am I saying that right? Teague. Yes. Like baseball league. Teague. Like baseball league.
Yep. It helps people spell it cuz they. never spell it correctly. Brooke. then gets taken out for some. sobriety tests, which take much longer. than anticipated. You're making me giggle. I'm sorry. He makes me giggle, too. It's okay. Okay. I snort. I'm from Huntsville. We're supposed to be. I'm from Huntsville. Isn't going to make. me snort.
All right, stop laughing cuz you're. making me laugh. I'm not seriously I'm giggling. I'm. sorry. This is a serious deal. All right. Okay. You're smiling. I can't help it. All right. Stop. Okay. I'm sorry. Unfortunately, despite all the jokes, Brooke failed all the sobriety tests and. was put under arrest. How much you've actually had a drink? I've had two Millers. Two Millers. Now that's it. Yes, sir. You can call Mitchell, the. manager. Okay. Well, hey, go ahead and put your. hands on your back for me. Okay.
Good job. After a search of her car, which turned. up nothing but a loose car seat, she was. driven back to the police station where. the sparks continued to fly. I'm with you. Let's go over here. Oh my god. Is there a dog? There is a dog. Where? He's over there. Over here. His name is Coach. Kolk? That's my dog. Is that your dog? What's his name? His name is Coach. Coach? I have three dogs in here. Great. day in the master. Wow.
Can I put high school down with you? I think so. Where'd you go to high school? Yeah. Not many. Where'd you go? Indiana. Brazo, Indiana. Where in Indiana? Verzo. I was raised from Bloomfield. Really? Yeah. Note that despite the obvious chemistry, both Brooke and the officer have. remained professional and are continuing. to move on with the investigation. The. officer had Brooke take a blood alcohol. test where she blew 14%. A number that. pales in comparison to that of the next. girl who was not only extremely.
intoxicated but also acted very. inappropriately with the cops. I'm dead, bro. Check me. I don't care. I. like men. Come on, just search me. A 19-year-old girl was seen weaving. between lanes and throwing unknown items. out of the window. Officers immediately. thought this was suspicious and pulled. her over for a chat. Hey, how's it going? Hi. Sorry. What's that? You said you were coming from Dancers. The driver states that she's a stripper. at a bar called Dancers and that she was. texting her boyfriend who was home with.
her kids. However, the officers noticed. something off about the driver. Her. speech was slightly slurred and her eyes. were glazed over. There's a good chance. this girl's been drinking. What What time did you get off at. dancers? 11. 11. It's an hour and a half away. You got off at 11:00. It's 10:23. right now. Really? Oh. Did you have anything to drink while you. No, I'm 19. You're 19? I cannot drink at the strip of nothing. Nothing? No.
Are you sure? Don't get on my eyelashes, bro. The light will hurt your eyelashes. No, but they not. from the lights. Despite the girl's. claims, the officers are fairly sure. she's had at least something to drink. last night, especially when she seems to. forget the time completely. So, they ask. her to step out of the vehicle and. perform a few sobriety tests. Well, hold on. This is We're going to. start. I'm cold. We're going to start right here. All. right. Do you wear any Do you wear any.
glasses or contacts? I do. You do? Are you wearing contacts right. now? No. No. I'm going to walk in a straight line and. I'll be good. Well, that's that's not. even I haven't even told you the. exercise that I'm doing yet. So, you got. to. I'm cold. Okay. I mean, just give me 10 minutes of. your time. Okay. Okay. Fine. Straight line. What are you doing? Cop. Hold on. I didn't tell you that's what. we're going to do yet. I know, but I don't have the places. Despite her enthusiasm to begin the. tests, she doesn't exactly pass them. with flying colors. And after losing her.
balance on the final test, she's placed. under arrest by the officers. But that's. not where the story ends for her. On the. way back to the patrol vehicle, she. mentions that there are in fact weapons. in her car and her behavior starts to. change drastically. Y'all can check me. I don't care if. y'all are male, bro. We got We got plenty of uh female. officers around here. I'm good, bro. Check me. I don't care. I'm giving authorization to you. I'm not going to search you. Why not? I give you authorization, too. Oh, I'm not going to do that.
Well, I like men. Come on. Just search. me. While the cops maintained that they. couldn't search her, they did take the. time to search her vehicle. Inside, they. found multiple guns, a large stack of. cash, though it was decided this was. likely just tips from the bar. However, she was still charged with DUI and. sentenced to 9 months probation despite. also being underage. It was fairly. difficult for the cops to judge if this. girl was drunk or not. However, this. next girl didn't show the same amount of.
class. Instead, resorting to manipulate. and trick the cop into letting her go. Hello. How you doing? Also hot in New Mexico State Police. Um. for the stop, you're going 55 back there. on on uh MLK. Bad. Yeah, 55. I was right behind you the. whole time and you just. honestly. booked it. I've had a I had a bad night. The girls. that I thought that were my friends are. not my friends. Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. Where are. you coming from? Knockouts. Knockouts. This girl doesn't seem to be having the.
best night, but that still doesn't. explain why she was driving 25 mph over. the speed limit on a residential road. She also mentions that she came from a. place called Knockouts, a gentleman's. club that could explain the sparkly. outfit and why she was driving so. erratically. Okay, you have your license. Like you going to tell me your bike. class and then do some [ __ ]. Yeah. I have my registration.
I have. Do you have a jacket or something that. you could put on? What? Do you have a jacket or anything? A jacket? Yeah, I can in the car. No. Why? Cuz I'm going to ask you to step out. that way. We could talk out here. I don't have anything. The girl seems to be upset about a. disagreement with her friends back at. the bar, but this officer isn't buying. it. There's many examples of suspects. pretending to be sad or distressed. during a traffic stop to try and get. sympathy from the cops and walk away. with a lighter sentence. This can work. in some circumstances, but it doesn't.
excuse driving at almost twice the speed. limit. But this doesn't stop the girl. from trying after she steps out of the. car. Okay. Here's my registration and I can give. you my progressive. Um, it just sucks. Like, yeah, a [ __ ] tells me that she's my friend. and she's not. Okay. All right. All right, let's go. back over here. I'm moving next weekend and my friend. said that she's my friend, but she's. not. Yeah. Can you stand up straight? Yeah. All right. So, how much alcohol you.
consumed? No, I haven't. Nothing. I smoke weed. I have my my medical um. card if you want to see it. I have that, but I'm in I've been smoking because I'm. mad. Yeah, you're mad. You know what I mean? Like. the fragrance. Here, just just try to calm down a. little bit. So you're gonna you say that. you haven't consumed no alcohol? Just be. honest with me alcohol worked out. knockouts. Honestly, the way I feel. until the girl she. are available for that. behind my back and [ __ ] You know what I.
mean? No matter how hard the cop tries to keep. the girl on topic, she keeps breaking. down and talking about her friendship. issues. After some more pressing by the. officer, she admits to smoking marijuana. and alcohol back at the club, but she. keeps trying to excuse it by saying. she's having a rough night. and that's. her way of dealing with it. Unfortunately for her though, the. officer needs her to focus, which she. seems to be having a tough time doing. throughout the sobriety tests. All right, just wait right here. I'm. going to move my unit back just just a. little bit. And uh I got two more tests.
to administer. You feel okay walking in. those shoes? I mean, I'm just [ __ ] upset. That's. it. You're just upset? I'm just [ __ ] upset. I was like. So, Miss M Ramos, my my main concern is. just that you're safe to drive. Okay. Obviously, you're. No, I truly get it. traveling at a high. rate of speed up. Three kids. Okay. My baby daddy just died. I'm sorry to hear that. My best friend just said that. it's just a lot. One, two. One, two. Unfortunately for the girl though,
complaining to the officer didn't seem. to sober her up at all, and she failed. all three of her sobriety tests. So, all. that was left was for her to be. arrested. A fitting end for what. appeared to be a pretty rough night for. her. All right. So, at this point, you're. going to be placed under arrest for DWI. driving while influence intoxicating. liquor and or drugs. Just face me real. quick. What's in your mouth? Nothing. Open it. Lift up your tongue. All right. So, on my watch, 0213. Okay. But Kelly Barton made it a little easier.
for the cops. Not only was she seen. crashing into a lamp post while. transporting a special needs patient, but when police arrived, she was looking. a little worse for wear. Kelly. Yes. How are you doing? Good. Kelly admits that she had too much to. drink that evening, but doesn't admit to. driving despite it being her job. Unfortunately for her though, security. camera footage from the gas station. proves that she was in fact behind the.
wheel and is now facing charges of both. DUI and neglect due to the. responsibility she carried while driving. with the patient. But as an ambulance. pulls up to perform some tests on her, Kelly reveals that she has another trick. up her sleeve and begins repeatedly. flirting with all of the officers at the. scene. Look at your hands. Do you want the lights to check you, ma'am? Let them do what they got to do. Come. on, boys.
I want the little young boys ask me how. I'm feeling. Let the little young boys. tell me. Let me tell you something. What I would do to you with your blue. eyes. Let me check your question. Look at him. Okay. I would do him in a way that he. won't admit that. Hey, look, he can look. tough all he want, right? Don't let me get it. After multiple tests, it's clear to the. officers that Kelly was way over the.
legal limits and is arrested for driving. while intoxicated. And after struggling. to get her into the police vehicle, she's sent on her way to the police. station. But if you think Kelly was bold. for talking to cops like that, 18-year-old Skyler Flus is on a. completely different level. Going so far. as to post this video to thousands of. people bragging about how she got away. with a DUI. I got out of a DUI and got let off with. a warning. Skyler was pulled over after an officer. saw her weaving around the road in a way.
that suggested she might not have been. completely sober. But according to her. video, she claims that using her. flirtatious and quick wits, she managed. to trick the officer and get away with a. warning. I blew a 3.8 and he let me off with a. warning and gave me his number and said. we should meet for coffee or lunch. He. was hot, so I'm getting lunch with him. tomorrow. If her story is true, then the officer. would be in serious trouble. But. luckily, the officer in question. recorded the entire interaction on his. body cam, and the video tells a.
completely different story. Hello. Hi, my name's Deputy St. I'm in the Jer. County Sheriff's Office. I pulled you. over cuz you were weaving a little bit. back there. Where are you coming from? Um, I was coming from my friend's house. I actually just got dumped. Okay. So, I was like crying and like I'm. really Were you on your phone and stuff, too? I was trying to call him to get a hold. of him because my heart hurts. Well, I'm just concerned that you were. weaving because of alcohol, but if. you're on your phone, have you been. drinking or anything tonight? No. Okay. The deputy then does give Skyler a card.
with the sheriff's department's. information on it, but it didn't include. his personal number and it didn't come. with an invitation to dinner. Sounds like you're having a rough night, so I'm not going to add to that by. writing you a ticket or anything. Okay? So, I'm just going to give you a. warning. It's not a big deal. I just. want to make sure you're okay. You're. weaving a little bit and I just want to. make sure you're okay to operate the. motor vehicle. And I believe you are. Um, so my information is right here on. the front. The reason I stopped you here. is on the back where we're headed. Uh, get there safely. I'm sorry you're. having a bad night. Yeah, I'm just right on the street. Okay, I'm fine. No, you're you're fine. Yeah. No, you. don't need to apologize. I mean, you.
were weaving a little bit with no. traffic out. I just want to make sure. you're okay, that's all. Skyler's video doesn't just contain. disgusting footage of her laughing and. bragging about exploiting this officer's. kindness, but also states that she blew. a 3.8 on the breathalyzer, ignoring that. she wasn't even tested in the first. place. The legal limit is only around. 0.8 and already makes driving dangerous. But a reading of 3.8 eight would imply. Skylar was not only blackout drunk but. close to death. As at a level of 4.0,
respiratory failure is likely. But this. doesn't mean Skylar was lying about. being drunk under age. Videos were later. discovered of her chugging tequila from. the bottle and acting drunk at a party. just hours before she was caught. driving. After she was confronted with. this, Skylar confessed and admitted to. everything. I ended up getting a little too. intoxicated. Um, I was taking shots all night and I. decided to make the dumb decision to get. into my car and drive. She also admitted that the officer never.
asked her out. That was just a lie for. social media attention. Regardless of. her confession, though, no further. action was taken against her or the. officer who failed to test her. But the. same can't be said for Lydia Bado. She. was caught trying to transport two. illegal immigrants over the Mexican. border. And as soon as everything. started to fall apart, she decided to. try seducing the officer. Just wait for me right here. Okay. You. don't have anything. Sorry, sir. What? I'm looking at your eyes. Why? Cuz you look pretty handsome. As soon as the officer realizes.
something might be up with the IDs, Lydia starts to smile and stare directly. at his eyes before telling him how. handsome he is. Obviously, this is just. a trick to try and get out of the. position she's put herself in. A trick. that isn't going to work on this. officer. [Music]. Okay. Okay.
[Music]. Okay. After running the woman's driver's. licenses through the national database, the officer discovers that the ID. numbers return completely wrong results, meaning that both of them are totally. fake. It's later discovered that the two. women with Lydia in the car are both. illegal immigrants from El Salvador. What's worse is that they were being. transported through a service that often. forces women into debt bondage, where. the people who transported them will. make them pay off their debt through.
forced labor and sex work. So, while. Lydia was arrested and the two women. sent back over the border, they may have. been saved from years of horrible. treatment and abuse. One thing's for. sure, though. Lydia's attempt at. flirting didn't work one bit. But the. same can't be said about this next girl, who was so bubbly and flirtatious that. the officer couldn't help but smile. throughout the entire encounter. I'm too cute for prison. Don't do that. to me. On January 5th, 2022, officers responded. to a car accident. As soon as they got.
on the scene, they were given some. useful intel by a witness. She's drunk. And she already said that I. don't want to get a DWI in a single car. Okay. Thank you. Was she in on in the wrong? No, she was. on that side. See, I was coming this way right before. the curve and she floowed around me. I. mean, float around me. Blow around. another make the curve. See, see right there. Hit the curve and then slack this. I.
don't know what to deal with. It sounds like this driver completely. lost control of the vehicle and was. lucky nobody else got hurt. But if they. want to understand exactly what happened. here, they're going to have to talk to. the driver. And it doesn't take long for. them to figure out the situation. So, they said you're not having anything. medical. No, sir. Okay. Now, just based on this driving. behavior and what people have been. saying when we came on scene, um would. you be willing to take some standardized. personality tests? How much have you had. to drink today?
Not very much. Okay. What is not very much? Like the legal limit. Okay. Which is what? Like very not very much because I ate. and I drink water between the two. The driver is being honest and complying. with the cop's request to take a field. sobriety test. But unfortunately, the. sobriety test quickly shows the cops. that even if she's acting nice, she's. still a criminal that put many other. lives in danger. All right, ma'am. Go ahead and put your. hands behind your back for me. Okay. You're being placed under arrest for. DUI.
All right, I'm not to pat you down. before I put you in my unit. Okay. The cop pats the girl down before. placing her in the back of his patrol. car and reading her her rights. But this. is when she starts to put her plan into. action that she thinks will cut her. loose. I'm so sorry. I'm so sorry. You don't you don't need to apologize. You know, I'm doing my job. That's all. I know. And I respect that. I respect. you. Have you ever been arrested for a. DWI before? No, sir. I've never been arrested, period. So, I hope that leaves I'm like.
one of the cuter people that you've had. in your cop car. Do not confirm or deny, please. Oh, yeah. I can't talk about that. Yeah, you can for legal purposes. I'm too cute for prison. Don't do that. to me. Anyways, I'm sorry you're stuck. with me, though. That's all right. You know, I've been, like I said, was worse. Back at the. station, the seduction doesn't stop. All right, so I'm going to count this in. front of you. I remember you. You would come up to the. Aato with your face mask and be like,
"That is so fine.". Like respectfully, though. Oh, yeah. Obviously, cuz like I'm a mess right. now. You had your face mask on, but I was. like, "That is. Yeah, don't worry about it. Let's get. back to Nobody wants to date any woman. that's looking like this." So, you are. such a happy man. Oh, thank you. I appreciate you. I do. Okay. I'm getting prepared. I'm sorry. I hope I haven't been disrespectful. I. hope I haven't been disrespectful to. your job.
But even as she waited for her medical. examination, she couldn't resist. flirting with the officers in an attempt. to lessen her sentence. What do you. Okay, maybe a little. Hey. Hey, come over here. This way. I just want to say hi. Who's Tori? Wild. Who's Tori? You lead the way. Yeah, just have a seat. How the hell am I supposed to know? Hi, daddy.
What are you doing? I'm about now. Why you should. I still have to triage. Look how cute it is. Because because you're so cute, sir. Oh, yeah. Thank you. I appreciate that. Hey, might as well choose be happy if. you're in a [ __ ] situation. You should be stuck with this. doing the cutest. Thankfully, this didn't seem to change. anything in her charges as she was hit. with an aggravated DWI and reckless. driving. At the end of the day, though,
a DUI never gives that big of a. sentence, at least not compared to what. Amelia Bassoon was trying to dodge as. she attempted to seduce the cops and get. away with murder. Amelia was arrested in. connection with the murders of Cindy and. Sha Stack. They think she helped her. husband cover up the crime, but she will. do everything she can to get away with. it, including flirting with the. detectives. But while this case started. in a playful manner, it quickly evolved. into one of the most intense. interrogations of all time.
They're dead. They're both dead. I didn't do anything. The detective starts by reading Amelia. her rights and getting some basic. information. Am I like getting arrested or something. for something or. I'm going to explain it to you? I don't. feel okay. I just normally when this. starts is like someone getting in. trouble or arrested or. Well, we just like I said, we want to be. able to talk to you. Already, it's obvious that Amelia is. making her voice high-pitched and. speaking in a timid tone of voice. While. this could just be what she sounds like. normally, other footage of her suggests.
otherwise. I I don't want to press charges, but I I. would like a no contact order. I can do. that. Okay. Her change in tone could also be a. reaction to being in a stressful and. uncomfortable situation. And as the. interrogation continues, she begins to. show more and more of these flirtatious. signs. What happened with Josh? Did you say. that? Did I hear you say he shot himself. in the leg? Yeah. So, in December, he um we went. bowling. Okay. The bullet went around the bone and. around the artery. through and through.
Jeez, that's lucky. I know. He's crazy. How long you guys been married? Um it'll be a year in September. Oh, okay. Here, Amelia gathers her hair. and moves it all to the right hand side, exposing her neck on the left. The neck. carries the jugular, an important and. vulnerable part of the body that many. people will make an effort to protect. However, when someone feels comfortable. or safe around someone, they're likely. to expose their neck by tilting their.
head or moving their hair to the side, suggesting attraction, or at least the. desire to show it. All right. So, Ameilia, I can tell you the reason why. we're here today. is because of that issue with the bank. Okay. Okay. All right. Does that surprise you? Um, for this type of situation, yeah. Okay. Like this intense? I mean, I got in. trouble at work, which makes sense, but. I'm just confused about this. Well, let's let's walk through it a. little bit. Okay. Um, let's walk through. that and see how maybe we came here.
today. All right. And find out if this. was just a misunderstanding or what. Okay. The story ended with Cindy and. Shawn dead, but started with an equally. disgusting crime. Amelia was an employee. at Chase Bank and exploited her position. to steal $50,000 from a dementiarridden. man. She wrote two checks from his. account and her husband Josh deposited. them in his accounts. When Cindy and. Shawn started asking questions, Josh. purchased a gun and shot the pair in. their own apartment. This interrogation.
is not only to uncover the details. behind the theft, but also to determine. what part she played in the killings. So, how did you what happened with this. write up? So, I mean, had you been a. banker for him for a while? I mean, yeah. So, I've been his banker since I. moved here. So, so what happened with these checks? Um, nothing. We just I should call them. I. have the record over global security. M. So when they came in, they pulled like. call logs, they pulled like cameras just.
to make sure like they pulled signature. files because I mean it's still federal. It's the bank. So they wanted to make. sure that I wasn't like I guess. stealing. Mhm. When you talked to Gerald, I mean, how did he appear to you? Was he a young. guy, old guy? He's old. Oh. How did he appear to you when you. talked to him? He was okay. He was okay. Did he ever have any issues when he when. you talked to him about remembering. things or anything like that? Like I know like a little about himself. like he had brain surgery. Mhm. Um but for the most part, he remembers. things I don't think he would forget.
really. Just other than that, he's. okay. Yeah, nice guy. Amelia does her best to seem open and. honest here, but as soon as she finishes. up talking, she brings her shoulders up, hunches over slightly, and crosses her. arms. All movements that are done to. protect vital parts of the body and are. obvious tells that someone feels. uncomfortable. These signs only become. more apparent as the interview. continues. What did he have you do? Like how did he.
what did he ask for? Nothing. It's just he put two checks in. $25,000 each. and that was it. The grandson came picked them up and. the grandson came and picked them up. Mhm. It was either the day before or the day. after. Mhm. I opened up an account for him. Oh, so he must have just deposited those. checks into the account. I think. I think your best bet right now is to be. completely honest with us. Okay. So, let me let me let's go on a little. bit more. Okay. The truth is going to be. the best thing right now. Okay. This happened in May.
My write up for May. Yes. The account's still open. The father. Mm-m. No. Amelia's speech has become much. shorter and unclear, and she continues. to seem more and more uncomfortable when. pressured about Gerald's banking. records. Of course, the detective has. noticed this and is seeing straight. through her original timid and playful. demeanor. So, he decides to ramp up the. pressure. I know you listen, okay? At a. certain point in time, we have to move.
past it. All right. He's a nice guy, and I'm sure you really. do care about him. I do. Do you see now? Mhm. But it's not like I I don't want to. Okay. Mhm. No. Did you take advantage of that old man? I don't want to say I took advantage of. him cuz he's a really nice guy. Yeah. And uh Josh. did he ever talk to them? No. He never spoke to them. He doesn't. even know who they are. Okay. What do you have been at their. house? Him?
Mhm. He doesn't even know where they live. I. don't even know where they live. Well, you have access to his account. Yeah, but I haven't. You opened it? Yeah, but I don't remember his address. Can you talk to Cindy? Mhm. Possible she gave you their address. Is. it going to be in the text messages? No. But you don't remember if she gave you. the address or not? She never did. She had no reason to. It's possible Josh went over there and. you didn't know. I mean, how would he know where they. live though? That's not the question I was asking. Is. it possible that he went over there? Not that I know. No. So, you don't you can't say for sure he. did or did.
I can say no. Say no. because he doesn't know where. they he doesn't know them. Amelia now decides to change strategies. Instead of her original flirtatious and. playful demeanor, she's switched to an. innocent and clueless one. At points, she even smiles and laughs while being. asked serious questions in an attempt to. downplay the intensity and pressure. This is a sign that the facade she's put. up is starting to break, and the. detective takes this as an opportunity. to press her even further. I think you.
need to start understanding the severity. of the situation. All right? Because I don't know if you really do. All right? And I think you need to start. understanding that how this interview. goes and what what you know what. decisions you make here are going to. affect your life for a long long long. time. I think you think that you had. this all planned out. And I think you. and again, not to say it in a bad way, but this is what we do. Okay? When we make mistakes, we figure. things out and go, "Okay, all right. There's a lot more going on here." All. right? And you know whose name is all. over this right now? You and Joshua. Okay? You need to start thinking real.
hard and real fast. Okay. Who Who is. involved in this and what happened? Okay. Okay. That's all I know. Okay. Things got out of hand. Okay. This. got out of hand. I think what happened. was Cindy was asking you for this money. back and you didn't have it. And there's. there's some issues there. Okay. Sometimes, again, when we make a. mistake, we do something wrong and. things the ball gets rolling. We can't. stop it. You understand what I'm saying? Okay. Listen, you have your whole life. ahead of you. I know. You have a seven-year-old son. You have an obligation to him. Mhm. So, whatever happened beyond this,
we need to know because if if you want. to keep going with what you're telling. us, okay, then we're going to have to go on that. All right. And you have to understand. Yeah. Okay. Okay. So, somebody did something we need. to know now. Talking about her son obviously strikes. a chord with Amelia. And as. interrogations are all about exploiting. emotions to extract the truth, the. detective jumps on this to make her as. vulnerable as possible. Did Josh bring you up to this? No. Well, this is the stuff we need to know.
Listen, if he puts you up to it, he put. you up to it. That's okay. Again, like. Detective Murphy said, I think you're. kind of at this crossroads right now, okay? You've got Josh, who you probably. love, and he's your husband, okay? But. you also have Julian, and you got to. picture that little boy. You got to. picture not being able to watch him grow. up. Think about that for a second. Think. about being put somewhere very far away. from him. And the only way you're going. to have contact with him is through. letters. You're going to get pictures in jail in. prison of your little boy growing up. That's your future.
I don't know the severity what he did. What did he do? But he I mean he knows the relationship. that I have with Mr. Sack. He knows. that. I mean I would take him food. Like. listen to me. So at a point it would it would he would. get upset with me that like I'm too nice. that I like I can't kind of act with my. customers. But he's the old guy. He has. no family. Well, I mean, I talked to him. cuz he knows my husband. I talked to. him. Did Josh say that you you you you kind. of were owed this money because you were. taking care of this guy?
I don't know if he said that, but. something like that. What did he tell you? I don't want to get in trouble. I didn't. do anything. We need to know. Well, then tell us. Okay. Tell us. They're both dead. What? Yeah, they're dead. So, now we really. need to talk. At this point, all of the. games that Amelia was playing have gone. out the window. Whether she's innocent. or not, she's now being accused of. aiding a murderer and is faced with.
losing her job, house, and a 7-year-old. son. So, understandably, she's starting. to get incredibly scared. I do not want to go to jail. I don't I. don't like if I get fired, okay, let me. get fired at work, but I don't want to. go to jail. I didn't do anything. I. didn't I didn't plan anything. I didn't. conspire anything. Just. I didn't do anything. I don't want to go. to jail. From here, the detectives try to. capitalize on this, using her vulnerable.
state to try and extract as much. information as possible from her. But. Amelia asserts that she's only told the. truth throughout the entire. interrogation. She didn't know Cindy and. Shawn were dead and she had nothing to. do with their murders. But here is where. the interrogation takes a massive turn. These detectives have now been talking. to her for over 2 hours, and they've. executed this style of interrogation. almost perfectly. But for the last few. hours, they've just been going around in.
circles to no avail. So instead, they. leave the room to discuss a new. approach. And that's when detective. number three enters with blankets and a. kind, apologetic tone. Hey, you need to. talk to them. You need to get off from underneath this. big time. Mhm. And they tell you who they work for. Yeah. Yeah. We're homicide. So. I know. And you they want you to be a witness, not a suspect. That's why I want to talk to them. because I I just don't want to be. involved in any of this. Like,
okay, I don't want any part of this. I want to. be able to go home. Yes. Entering like this after such a. stressful experience with the other. detectives will set Amelia's mind at. ease. and subconsciously enforce the. idea that he isn't a threat. At the. start of the interrogation, Amelia was. trying to seduce the detectives in an. attempt to get better treatment and. hopefully even a lighter sentence. So, if the third detective plays into this. by treating her kindly and playing her. game, maybe he'll have a chance of.
finding out what really happened. In these cases, you can't lie. You can't which which means holding. something back, telling a partial truth. Mhm. or just flat out lying. Mhm. That is accessory. You're protecting. someone. And I'm telling you right now, you don't need to do that. If you know what happened, tell them. Did he tell you what he did? Don't you. have to say anything? No, he just told me if you say anything. that. like if you cuz I mean I'm not stupid.
Okay. But eventually he told you what. happened. No, he didn't tell me that he killed. anybody. or that he was going. But you knew that he was going over. there. I knew that he was going over there. What day? He told me he's like he's like, "Don't. worry about what I'm doing. I'll take. care of it.". Talking about them though, I'm guessing so, cuz that's just what he. say. Your importance is in details, not in. vagueness. They told me I'm going to jail. regardless. Well, that that the uh the fraud part. may be, but that's that's nothing. That. is nothing. compared to these charges, you know,
for first-degree murder. If I say all of these things, will I get. in trouble? If you don't say any of these things, you're definitely going to get in. trouble. But that that's this is where. I'm scared. If I say these things like I. I didn't do any of my. Put this way. If you protect him and you. don't tell us everything, then you're. part of the crime. Amelia is now met with a harsh dilemma. She has to either gamble that the. detectives never connect her to the. crime and face felony charges herself or. fess up and snitch to the police, likely.
sending her husband to jail for the rest. of his life. This is her last chance to. make the right decision or she'll never. see her son again. Can you start over from the beginning? Yeah, go ahead. Um, so I let her know she wanted to. know. She went with her dad to the bank. and she looked at the transaction. history and she wanted to know what the. checks were. So I can't tell her much. And then he's over my shoulder listening. to my conversations with her and he's. just like, "I'll take care of it. Don't. worry about it." He just wasn't having.
it. He didn't want me to talk to her. He. didn't want me to contact her. And who are we talking about her? Um the guy's daughter. You know her name? Cindy. Cindy. She's going to call her. Cindy. Cindy. And he knew who Cindy was. Um only because of the conversations. that me and her were having. I'm sorry. The next day he went and he bought a. gun. I don't know if it was Tuesday or. Wednesday. He called out of work. He. said that I'm going to take care of. things. The next day he just he comes. home and he's like banging on the door. This is like a. where the apartment or the house where.
we we were at today. Yes. Okay. He came banging on the door. Um when he. came home, he took the gun apart. He was. shaking. Um he took all his clothes off. He put it in a garbage bag and then he. went by his mom and dad's house. Okay. Um when did you become aware that. he was involved in the murder? Well, I didn't know what what happened. I just stopped hearing from her. And. then when I said something about can I. call her, he told me no. And then he got.
really mad at me and he was like, if you. say something, I'm going to kill you. Okay. He's not going to say that unless. he told you about the murder. That's the. part that's So when did he tell you. about the murder? Sweetie, you got to let this go. You. can't. Anything you hold back is not. going to look good. You've got to just. tell him. It hurts. It's scary. I. understand that. But not talking is. worse for you than talking. It was he. describe how what. he never physically said like what he. did or if anything was done. Did he say he shot him?
Well, I'm I'm guessing he had a gun. So, don't guess. Did he tell you that he. shot him? Yes. He said he shot him. Mhm. And with that, the detectives managed to. use Amelia's tactics against her and got. her to confess to her own husband's. crime. The detectives also stuck to. their word and after confirming she had. nothing to do with the murders, dropped. the charges against her. She was however. still charged with the theft and. sentenced to three years in prison. Josh, however, was found guilty of the. firstdegree murders of Cindy and Sha.
Stack and was sentenced to life behind. bars.
