Spoiled Teen Thinks She Can Get Away With Murder

this is 20-year-old Devon Howard Devon. is sitting in a cold interrogation room. alongside his three co- accomplices due. to their suspected involvement in the. brutal shooting and murder of. 27-year-old Andrew jich coincidentally. all four claimed that they had no. involvement in the crime whatsoever and. in fact don't seem to take the situation. seriously at all need PE.

[Music]. where did you pick her up. at. okay relax it's okay no I'm fine I'm. just tired okay I was involved in the. murder of some. somebody oh the time is right. there what the group doesn't realize at. this time is that Andrew's murder was. fully recorded on multiple security. cameras and shows a man getting out of.

19-year-old Alicia valdez's car before. killing Andrew even more disturbing is. that the same vehicle would drive over. Andrew's lifeless body before fleeing. the. scene Alexis Ellis a bystander at the. scene would hear The Gunshot go off and. rush over to Andrew to perform CPR while. her friend Alyssa called. 911 jeffc 911 what is the address of the. emergency um I don't no I'm just at the.

corner it's like Sheridan and 20th um. some guy just got shot and they took off. in a silver twood door Pontiac and he's. on the ground he's like face down did. you see the person that shot him did you. see the person with a gun Alexis answer. my question did you see the person with. the gun she said it look like a little. Mexican dude okay and it was just the. one male in that vehicle or did she see. anyone else um he got into a. pass um the passenger seat of the car. okay he's hitting the chest he's got. bullets in the chest and we're flipping. him over cuz.

he's not hang on he's not breathing. unfortunately Andrew would pass away. within. minutes even more unsettling is that the. same car model would be seen at a local. gas station later that night where. everyone inside would happily buy snacks. joke and laugh as if nothing had. happened just hours prior the footage. inside the gas station would identify. the occupants of the vehicle as. 19-year-old Alicia Valdez 20-year-old. Caleb vigil and and 20-year-old Devon.

Howard Lopez while painting these three. out to be Killers just based on their. car make is clearly premature it's. enough evidence for police to file a. warrant for the arrest of the three. suspects so they can bring them in for. questioning to try and determine if the. bunch had any involvement in Andrew's. death what makes this case so. interesting is the amount of blatant. lies and misinformation that would come. out during these interrogations you. would think that at least one of the. suspects would feel guilty and confess. but everyone involved would fabricate.

their story and lie to lessen their. perceived role in the crime but at this. point the police have yet to apprehend. any suspects their only lead is a. lifeless body sprawled on the pavement. and two shaken Witnesses who made the. 911 call police start by questioning. Alexis the witness who called the cops. remember this is an interview and not an. interrogation as currently Alexis is. considered a witness rather than a. suspect but there is something susp. icious about her that the detectives.

want to. clarify 3 years earlier Alexis was. charged as an accessory to murder after. her boyfriend shot and killed one of his. friends from the vehicle she was driving. the detective leading the interview. Nathan geis would discover this. information during a brief preparation. period prior to the interview and is. curious as to if maybe she had more to. do with Andrew's murder than she was. letting on.

we pulled up we parked in the back. parking lot my friend got out to go into. the dispensary um sitting on my phone. playing on Facebook heard the shot. thought it was a firework for a second. so I looked up and saw the victim um. face down on the floor and the shooter. there was a silver Pontiac in front of. the victim um and the shooter was in. front of the car still kind of standing. by the victim's body with the gun point. pointed at him um and then got back into.

the Pontiac on the passenger side they. hesitated for a minute on which way. they're going to pull off looked like. they were trying not to hit him um they. kind of looked around the parking lot to. see if anyone saw it I was kind of. trying to duck as much as possible I got. out of the car once I saw that they were. gone um ran up to him I said are you hit. he said yes please help me called 911. let him know there was an ambulance on. the way sounded like he was kind of. crying he wasn't saying anything else.

after 2 minutes the crying stopped so. went to check for a pulse there was no. pulse big neck big neck right yeah take. note of Alexis's posture when discussing. the shooting she's leaned in towards the. officer and seems comfortable showing. little signs of resistance this language. presents truthfulness on her behalf so. it's unlikely she feels any guilt which. likely means that her recollection of. events is indeed accurate to what she. believed happened so you hear nothing. you first you that catches your.

attention as a shot okay are you. familiar with guns that's what I'm want. probation. for um I was dating a guy for 3 weeks he. asked for a ride um and Shan killed. somebody at the king supers on Sheron. Hampton. 2015 so you've heard him get him go off. yeah he was 5et in front of me on that. one too you got some tremendous luck. yeah did you get charge yeah accessory. to a crime. F4 how do this make you feel.

I don't know I mean it's it was hard I. was glad I was able to react like that. cuz I didn't react like that within M. with my case at the same time I'm know. my PO and everybody's probably going to. chew my for it but he didn't die alone. he knew somebody was there trying to. help just being around it and being. around the situation your fault no but. any else was it going to go down no this. interview clearly showcased the. responses suspects make when dealing.

with discomfort we could physically see. her subtle movement patterns and how. they coincided with certain emotions. Alexis was feeling her body language. makes sense she felt uncomfortable while. discussing her own criminal history. which is completely reasonable however. when discussing a crime she had no part. in her demeanor changed significantly. with an open posture and willingness to. answer every question and with this we. should be now more prepared to analyze. the interrogation of a less innocent. suspect later on in this video following.

this interview police would continue. their hunt to find the whereabouts of. the three inside the suspected vehicle. and it wouldn't take them long at all. just a few hours later at 4:00 a.m. an. officer spotted a vehicle closely. resembling the one described by Alexis. driving recklessly and pulled it over it. quickly became clear that this was no. ordinary traffic. [Applause]. stop hi ma'am hi hey officer Lloyd D.

police you can't turn left there oh I I. can't no it says there's a big sign up. there it says do not turn left that's. you don't have a front plate either is. it up in the window yeah cuz um my uh. thing is broken so I got to get a new. one to actually hold it the bracket yeah. gotcha okay do you have your license. registration insurance man there there's. those okay there you. go Alicia about this Alicia got to have. you step out for a. second don't grab anything with you okay. just step on out for me.

put your hands behind your back you got. a warrant okay why why do you have a. warrant you probably know that better. than I do but we're going to do some. research and tell you exactly what it is. yeah they put out a felony warn out for. you a felony warn yeah yep do you have. anything on you I need to know about I. don't. okay all right you want to watch them. I'll Pat him down real quick I'm just. going to set you down in the curb okay. you just put your wall on the top man. I'll give it back to you in a second. here okay go and just put them right. behind you're not in trouble you're not. going to jail you're not getting. arrested right now all right let's get. patch it down real quick then you can. put your phone in your pocket same thing. as your partner you're not going to jail.

you're not getting handcuffed I'm just. doing this for while you're going to be. sitting behind us. okay okay anything in your hood or in. your pockets you know about no perfect. okay you can go have a seat with him. okay is your gold phone. [Music]. [Applause]. okay at this very moment the officer. would discover a pistol inside the. vehicle Caleb had just stated there were. no guns inside the vehicle just minutes.

earlier so the officer quickly places. Caleb under arrest so they can safely. investigate this increasingly tense. situation stand up man stand. up try with mag. back you're not going to tell me there's. a gun in the seat next to. you what you weren't going to tell me. that you're going to try to leave a gun. on the seat when you left that'd be nice. to know would oh and a pocket full of. bullets how about this I'm about to get. out the car officer I have a gun on.

me. right what's. that one more person yeah they're all. they're all. hooked did you let them know that this. is in the car what is it uh SCCY 9 mil. all four would be arrested following the. discovery of Caleb's pistol however. throughout the entire process Alicia the. owner of the car would stay eerily. optimistic as as if she hadn't yet.

connected the dots that her arrest was. related to Andrew's. murder just stay right there. for let's have a seat over here on this. black chair if you could possibly find. rest I really appreciate it too now that. the suspects have finally been secured. detectives would begin the process of. individually interrogating all four. suspects with separate preparation and. planning made for each interrogation and. attempts to get as many differing.

stories and general information as. possible they would begin with Alicia. Valdez who was allegedly the driver of. the vehicle they sit her in an open room. with a large TV to her left and a. digital clock behind this is drastically. different from the cold empty room seen. earlier in this video this is done. purposefully this room is meant to feel. welcoming and open the table creates a. subconscious comforting barrier between. the suspect and the detectives something. that's absent in many more aggressive.

interrogations the objective is to get. Alicia to feel comfortable and willing. to speak to the detectives remember at. this point Alicia knows very little. about what evidence the cops have she. has no idea that everything was recorded. on CCTV and they know that her car was. there the plan is to set a trap that. prevents Alicia from denying that she. was at the scene so the more willing she. is to talk at the beginning the better. that's why they start the questioning. off lightly but it'll ramp up in no time.

at all yeah just have a SE right. there want some water thank you okay. it's over here if you want it okay than. you you all right cold yeah that was. nice earlier yeah the detectives offer. her water to immediately try to appear. friendly and form a bond people are much. more likely to tell a friend something. than they are a stranger so this is an. extremely important step you'll notice. this friendly demeanor slowly fades and. changes as the interrogation.

continues yeah where do you live at um. right now kind of bit of everywhere okay. um in my car in your car okay keep this. fact in mind for later on in the. interrogation as the detectives will use. it to prove she was at the scene later. on we're in the car with you today it's. your car right how long have you own. that car um I've had that car. for I believe about six months so six.

months about You' owned it where did you. get it I bought it from a public auction. down in Colorado Springs okay okay so. you have keys to the car mhm have you. given your key keys to anybody else no. the only ones that were they're the ones. that were in the car okay so when you. bought the car there was one set of keys. mhm and then um I had another maid but. they're together they're on the same. okay this is a simple question and it. should have a definitive answer based on. what she just said the fact that the.

only two keys are in her possession. there's no reason for her to be unsure. who has access to the car she's. deflecting so you say you've been kind. of homeless here recently mhm okay. living out of that TR yeah yeah where. else have you been St um sometimes with. um with um gentleman in the yellow I. mean not yellow green out there Caleb. mhm okay talk about who else was in the. car with your time.

um my boyfriend and uh another young. woman I don't know who's your boyfriend. um de where'd you meet him uh mitual. friends okay if you haven't noticed. already Alicia is extremely nervous. we're 10 minutes into this interview and. her leg hasn't stopped bouncing up and. down the entire time she's also been. moving around in her chair and avoiding. eye contact while answering very simple. questions even without the evidence that. they'd already collected beforehand the. detectives would likely already be.

convinced that she played a part in what. happened now it's just about exploiting. these weaknesses and extracting a. confession using everything they know. and the process starts by establishing a. timeline who are the other two people in. the car. um Caleb uh I I met him through mutual. friends too I haven't really known him. that long what about the girl do you. know her name I have no idea who who she. is when did you meet her just tonight. where did you pick her up.

at I don't know cuz I don't know Denver. like that where were you at before you. left to go pick um this girl up C was um. Devon W uh there with you mhm so you. were a few hours at Caleb's house and. then Caleb asked you to go pick this. girl up is that right mhm okay and you. picked her up and you were headed back. to Caleb's house when the police stopped. you I we were headed we were headed back. but I um I spped at the 7-Eleven down.

the street which 7 get some drinks um. one off of cax and a okay the detectives. now have a story that Alicia is locked. into meaning that if anything she says. contradicts this they'll know she's. lying and they can use it to trap her to. put on more pressure Alicia however is. playing a game of her own and trying her. best to dodge questions and hide certain. details from the cops but she's fighting. a losing battle and the cops know it how. long you been staying at Caleb's.

house um not really a lot um I'm just. trying to get a sense of. like every other night every night you. know um five nights a week what just. give me an. idea maybe like one to two nights one to. two nights a week what were you doing. today before you went over to the. Caleb's house um mainly just hanging out. with my boyfriend he's trying to keep me. distracted off today well because of. them.

MH that's we all have stuff like that I. know yeah okay so where were you hanging. out. at um really just everywhere driving. driving but that was about it. okay relax it's okay no I'm fine I'm. just tired okay but Alicia is all too. aware that the final thing they did last. night is exactly what police want to. know about and she absolutely cannot. bring it up you stayed anywhere else. since you come to Denver other than.

Caleb's or your. car um I stayed at this one girl's house. I don't remember her name like I said I. met her through uh mutual friends. um but those friends that I did meet her. through no longer really in contact with. okay how long ago was that you stayed at. her house a week ago a week or something. ago Devon stay with you at her house too. mhm yeah he with me all the time this is. an extremely important statement if they. can confirm that either Devon or Alicia.

was at the scene of the crime they'll be. able to lock both of them into it the. detective immediately realizes the. importance of this and forces her to. double down on her statement now has. Devon been with you the entire time uh. since you've been here in Denver and. since you and you he stayed with you at. her house MH and he's been staying with. you uh in your car or at Caleb's this. whole time up until tonight M Okay so so.

has Devon been in the car with you every. time you've been out in the. car I believe so is now on top of the. information from before the detectives. know that wherever her car was both her. and Devon had to have been there. too this is where the second stage of. the interrogation begins they're aware. she's guilty have an extremely detailed. timeline of events and know she's. feeling extremely uncomfortable now the. plan is simple they want her to give up. as much information about the actual.

murder and the other suspects as. possible so they can easily implicate. everyone else that's waiting for their. interrogation so the detectives take a. short. break when they sit back down they plan. to switch gears completely they're going. to heavily apply the pressure and. attempt to extract a full confession. thank you for this is uh pretty apparent. to me you're. being truthful about. things and it's also apparent that.

there's some stuff you don't want to. talk about but we've been sitting here. talking for a. while I genuinely like you I think. you're a good kid well to me you're a. kid uh well I mean I am a kid yeah. you're younger than my daughter okay. you're up here from the Springs you've. had some stuff in your life but now. you're up here in Denver hanging with. these guys that uh you got you know some. history some rough history not your kind. of History right you're kind of out of. your element up here all right I don't.

know that you got yourself into trouble. other than the people you're hanging. with but these other people have gotten. you into a lot of. trouble. who Caleb for one he got me in a lot of. trouble you just told me we spent here. spent a long time um we were very clear. that no one else has been driving your. car for the last week MH okay that you. and Devon or. uh you and Devon and K would have been.

in your car there's a few random people. you don't know but even when those. random people were in the car you and. Devon are in the car mhm and that you. stay with. that um pretty much okay it's a common. tactic to give a suspect an excuse for. what they've done in this case the. detective says he genuinely believes. she's a good kid and has just been swept. along in what's happened it's likely. he'll also tell her at some point soon. that if she helps them out they might be. able to give her much lighter sentence.

it's also important to note that he's. still trying to keep a friendly demeanor. to her and the reason for this hasn't. changed if he starts to get angry at her. now she might become closed off and. refuse to tell them anything if anything. he's even trying to seem fatherly. choosing to mention his daughter and. calling her a kid something that could. even be a response to her saying her. father passed away when she was younger. however all of this is leading up to. something they're finally going to. reveal why she's really there and. exactly what they know so I remember the.

day that it was raining it was snowing. real bad weather that was. Friday mhm that night the night before. all that snow and. rain mhm you remember where you were. that. night say I could not tell you okay you. remember being in a dark parking lot. that. night okay look at me you're your car at.

the scene of a murder someone got out of. your car shot someone and killed them. got back into your car and drove away. you just told me that you were driving. your car all week you need to tell me. the. truth uh I honestly I don't recall you. don't recall I don't we have it on video. I know that the person who shot this guy. is a guy I know it wasn't you I know it. was your car you tell me you're the only. one driving your car so you were driving. the car I mean yeah but uh I don't I.

don't recall being in wherever you're. saying I. was picture yourself in this situation. if You' just been told that police. believe you were at the scene of the. crime would your first response be I. don't recall anybody innocent would be. shocked to hear this information and do. everything they could to clear their. name and distance thems from the crime. Alicia was is there and now the.

detectives are more certain of this than. ever and they're starting to get. frustrated honestly you need to be. honest with me here I no you're not I do. know you were driving the. car now driving the. car could make you an accessory to. murder if you're going to sit here and. tell me you don't remember no no one in. the world no one you put yourself in my. position okay I know you were driving.

the car I know your car was there cuz I. got video of. it put yourself in my position do you. think anybody in the world is going to. believe that you don't remember that I. don't know I just like I said I I drive. everywhere and yeah you would have. remembered this. though this is a chilling line from the. detective and you can clearly see it. almost startles Alicia the sight of that. man being shot will be burned into her. mind. and being so clearly reminded of it.

would be jolting to say the least in. fact the detectives didn't even realize. exactly how traumatizing it might have. been until just moments later tonight uh. Caleb had a gun on him mhm did you know. he had a gun on him. um no cuz I don't just Pat everybody. down and comes my well you you know he. owns a gun right you're staying at his. place you drive with him every day. not every day well I mean so he probably.

carries a gun with him for. protection in the parts of town well. really I don't I don't really like. seeing guns I don't really like around. guns only because of what happened to my. dad have you seen him with a gun before. um not really no cuz I don't pay. attention what happened to your dad with. a gun um he was murdered he was murdered. okay with a gun so this is probably. pretty traumatic for you seeing someone. murdered with a gun I did not see. anybody happened right in front of your. car.

I said I don't recall notice how quickly. the detective hones in on her father's. murder and how similar that may have. been to this incident he's looking for. any opening to make her feel. uncomfortable and guilty and as horrible. as it may sound this is about as good as. you can. get so the detectives take one last. break to think about their final move. and come back with the last and possibly. most damning piece of evidence of.

[Music]. all want more water or. something you been on the other side of. this hav you your dad you've been on the. other side of this whole thing hav you. what does that mean I mean you got a. family member. murdered so you've seen the other side. of. this well not really um. not really they let the the man that did.

it go away they. did how'd that. feel did they catch him and no not they. let him go I mean the way I see it. left go ahead and live it no that's not. all right you don't believe that when. you got stopped tonight there was a gun. in your car mhm did you see the gun that. they took out of your car I didn't see. it no you didn't see it but they took a. gun out of your car. okay that was the gun that was used to.

murder this. man and prove that too that's an easy. one the gun that was in your car you. sure it was oh I'm sure it was yes I can. prove. that that's easy the bullet that we dug. out of this man's chest at the autopsy. came from that gun that just came out of. your car that's a fact too your car was. in the parking lot where he was shot. you tell me how did the gun that.

murdered a man get into your. car I don't know the detectives get very. little other information out of her from. this point onwards but they've already. gotten more than enough they've heavily. implicated her in the crime and it. sounds as though Devon had to have been. there with her too it's at this point. that we'll take a break from the. suspect's interrogation as unfortunately. ly convicting the criminals is only one.

half of these officers jobs and while. all of this is going on another team of. detectives and officers are tasked with. the brutal job of breaking the news of. Andrew's death to his family Andrew's. girlfriend Jessica was the only one. awake so in the middle of the night. she'd get a knock on the door from a. group of detectives all right Jessica. well I appreciate you answering my. questions um so I have some I I have. some news for you it's not I I'm just. going to come out and say it um Andrew's.

dead you're joking I'm not joking Andrew. is dead what happened um he was uh he. was. shot and he died um in the parking lot. oh my. God have you guys already informed his. mom or anything you're you're the first. person I was able to get a hold of and I. know that this is. hard to hear oh my God. this clip is devastating as it seems.

like Jessica had absolutely no idea of. any of the events that transpired. earlier that night as far as she was. aware Andrew was simply going out to get. them barbecue dinner however as sad as. this is detectives have to consider the. possibility of Andrew having some sort. of connection to the group for all they. know this could have been a drug deal. gone wrong or some other illegal. activity that caused the shoo. with this in mind detectives would bring.

Jessica to the station where they could. conduct a formal interview to determine. if Andrew had any prior connection to. the group that killed him while. preparing for the interview a strange. Discovery would be made police were. given an anonymous tip that Jessica's. own brother had been planning to kill. Andrew the two had supposedly a. recurring issue with one another that. had gotten progressively worse this is. awfully coincidental and something.

detectives need to get to the bottom of. my brother just saw on the news they. just put it on the news oh did. they yeah okay and then I saw the. picture of him on there okay I bet that. was pretty. rough so I received information uh going. back a year maybe two years your brother. had had uh threatened Andrew yeah ver uh.

he didn't threaten him directly it was. indirectly to me meaning I was driving. him to work one morning and we were. having a fight and that's when he really. unnerved me so I told Andrew and then. Andrew wanted to take it to the police. and the police said your best option. would be just to move away from the. situation so we did what was said that I. mean it was obviously fairly egregious. if basically it was just probably. something to effect I'll just take him. out too what do you think he meant by.

that I mean well the first thought to my. head is to kill him you know taking. someone El while these comments from. Jessica's brother are disturbing Jessica. doesn't seem too bothered by it now but. at the time they took it seriously. enough to move houses just to get away. from him but the detective can't just. take Jessica's word for this luckily. there are some simple ways that he might. be able to prove if he was involved or. not what kind of card is your brother. dve a.

Pathfinder what color is that green like. a dark Forest Queen does your brother. have access to Firearms or anything like. that he's not allowed to why not he has. charges like against him for past. stupidity okay and I don't know all. those crimes cuz I didn't bother to try. to talk to him about them the. description of his cars don't match up. with the one on CCTV at all and if he's.

not allowed access to any Firearms then. it's very unlikely that he was their guy. however before they wrap up the. interview Jessica asks a final. devastating question can I just ask you. one question sure Andrew can I ask you. like kind of like where he was shot just. because um his mom told me. that um when he was shut the witness who. saw it ran to him and stayed with him.

until he passed he was uh he was shot in. the. chest okay yeah deserve that at all no. nobody deserves that. so from all accounts from what you've. been saying it seems like he was a very. good very good guy y this question. echoed in the detective's heads for the. rest of this case it really seemed. seemed like Andrew was a nice peaceful.

man who was brutally killed that night. detectives would go on to interview. Jessica's brother as well and managed to. fully clear his name as a suspect Caleb. Devon and Alicia had no connection to. Andrew this was a coldblooded murder. this case had just taken a far more. Sinister turn and detectives had to find. Justice for not only Andrew but for the. rest of his family after Alicia's. interrogation. they would bring in Caleb the man who.

they at this point believe actually. pulled the trigger but Caleb wasn't. planning on making things easy his. interrogation lasts Just 4 minutes but. opens up an entirely new side to this. investigation filled with dozens of. shocking New pieces of evidence all. sparked by just one tiny thing that he. said all right. Caleb it's been a long night huh.

yeah Caleb I'm detective John me I'm. detective here with Denver and I'm going. to talk to you about your traffic stop. your friends and the gun that you had on. you tonight what's your home address. Caleb. 1548 if you want to talk to me about. what happened your answer is yes if you. don't want to talk to me you should say. no out way. okay the interrogation ended here but. unbeknownst to Caleb he gave away a.

crucial piece of evidence his address. and it took police no time at all to. obtain a search. warrant police open up the. door police open the door sir. sir show hands step up who else is in. here nobody do sir. I don't live here this is not my house. this is friend's house on my IA if.

you're in here make yourself know do it. now Police Department come. up come out with your hands. up that was one of Caleb's friends and. he's one of the three keys inside this. apartment that would unlock the case for. the detectives the second was this giant. stock of 9 mm bullets that perfectly. match the bullet found lodged inside. Andrew's body and if that wasn't damning. enough there was one more piece of. evidence inside that was the most.

shocking of all but the police hadn't. even realized it yet instead they wanted. to have a quick conversation with the. man they found inside it seems that. Caleb was known to this guy as Modello. and Devon as silencio often friends of. suspects like this tend to keep their. mouths shut out of trust but this time. well see for yourself Adel got out of. the car I guess to go mug this dude with. a gun dude dropped the wallet on the. ground Del unloaded into somebody I.

guess um whoever was in the car I guess. Ceno just told me that uh they saw him. get back up or whatever and they ran him. over as they drove off that's all I knew. this was everything detectives could. have asked for but what came next was. their most haunting discovery of all. inside Caleb's house was a receipt from. 7-Eleven dated just minutes after the. murder proving that Caleb Devon and. Alicia were in indeed the ones laughing. at the gas station after the murder all.

of these events transpired over 24 hours. but police had left out one crucial. suspect Devon AKA silencio and it was. for good reason police knew Devon was. desperate to keep his girlfriend Alicia. from getting charged so if they could. use that against him they might be able. to get him to admit to the murders the. mounting pressure on Devon became so. intense that he started confessing to. other crimes robberies he had committed. in the past I'll tell you straight up me.

and Caleb together have done crimes. before okay what you're about to witness. is a 21-year-old talking himself into. over 300 years in. prison yeah Devin do you go by Devon. yeah I'm probably going to screw that up. so if I do I apologize right know worry. about so Devon like I said my name is. Mark Spurgeon I'm an investigator at the. Jefferson County District Attorney's. Office you know Nate right right you. know we're both cops yep okay um from my.

it's been my understanding that uh when. they made contact with you this. afternoon that you were willing to talk. to talk to us again is that true to an. extent yeah okay to an extent okay I. just like to start make sure you. understand your rights because one of. the things I don't want to do in this. room is violate your rights you had. these rights and I think they're. important to you so. you know where you're at yeah well kind.

of all right I know this sounds stupid I. want to make sure you understand what. we're doing where you at some police. station okay all right what state in. Colorado who's the. president Trump the detectives are being. perhaps even more careful at the. beginning of this interrogation than. they were in Alicia's they want to. confirm that Devon is of sound mind. right now leaving the defense absolutely. no opportunity to invalidate this piece. of evidence in court they can't leave.

any room for error because they know. he's likely only here for one reason to. confess come into this investigation. somewhat late so I kind of want to start. out and ask you why are we sitting in. this room why are we here fill me. in I was involved. in murder of some somebody.

okay that's why that's. why so tell me about it cuz there the. reason that you want to talk about it. right I just want to get my girl out of. trouble cuz she had nothing to do with. it all right like I said I come in late. to this who's your girl. Elia the detective's plan worked. perfectly he's here to tell the cops. everything in hopes that he can maybe. get his girlfriend out of trouble but. you can still clearly see how. uncomfortable with this he is as soon as.

he's asked why he's here he goes from. sitting perfectly still to dancing. around in his chair searching his. pockets and leaning back away from the. detectives it doesn't matter if he. thinks this is the right thing to do he. still knows he's being checkmated and. he's about to sentence himself to a. lifetime in jail you want to get her out. of trouble yeah all right she had. nothing to do with it she's not a. criminal she ain't even been to jail. before now okay was she. there yeah she didn't know anything was.

going to happen though she have any hand. in there at all okay I was driving. and you know you can feel I'm sure you. already have like I said I'm coming into. this new I learned about this literally. this. morning they asked me to come in and and. kind of assist so that's what I'm doing. do me a favor walk me through because if. you want to get her out of out of the. situation she in she's in I understand I. expect that but I need to know what. happened so walk me through it we were.

driving around honestly for nice having. fun driving around having fun yeah we. like to drive it's fun we listen to. music. then we got had up pull into this. parking. lot and then from there I don't really. feel like I need to be going why not cuz. you guys already. have pretty much everything figured out. you guys know who you guys know she did. not pull the trigger okay that's what. matters I'm trying I'm just here to get. hurt out of trouble I'm not here to get.

anyone us in trouble except for myself. obviously right um all I can tell you is. no one knew that the shooting was going. to happen it was not planned so it. wasn't planned hell no wasn't plan who. plans on driving to a parking lot. shooting some random white guy were you. planning on robbing him like I said I. wasn't plan on doing was Caleb planning. on Robin like said I'm not going to. speak on that this is one of the detec I. leading theories about what happened. they don't necessarily believe that they.

planned on murdering Andrew they think. that this was more likely a robbery gone. wrong they intended to just steal. Andrew's money but ended up freaking out. shooting him and running him over to. ensure he couldn't turn them into the. cops what makes you guys go at go at. this kid who the victim the kid that die. he's not a kid he's 27 but right he is. to me true well like I said I didn't. know the mother I didn't know I don't.

know I wouldn't plan on anything. happening to him I didn't know G to. happen to this guy when something went. off I drove off okay what happens we. need to know what happens well everyone. knows you got shot yeah I know that but. I'm trying to figure out who shot him. and I need somebody to tell me that well. that's not I'm not going to tell you. anything cuz I'm sure you guys already. know and if you guys can't figure that. out then there's some issues could well. let me ask you this. she didn't shoot you know she didn't. pull trigger I told you I was driving.

right I mean mean can put the rest. together it's not up to me but I guess. I'm trying to understand is why I'm. trying to understand a motive I don't. know I told you none of us do that. happened I'm sitting in the damn car mhm. so I obviously don't know anything. that's going to happen you drive him. there you put him in that. lot unfortunately that's how it looks. that is how it happened yeah it's. nothing I'm telling you nothing was. plann let me ask you this were you just. thinking of. was Caleb or do you even know was Caleb. trying just to rip off get some money.

and bad we're. not at this point it's obvious that. Devon's lawyer will have told him. clearly not to discuss anything that. doesn't relate directly to Alicia he's. only going to talk about anything that. might help get her out of trouble it's. also at this point that the detective. realizes that he knows that he's not. going to get anything out of Devon. beyond that so that's when he decides to. do something extremely clever he's going. to abuse the fact that Devon only wants.

to get Alicia out of trouble and phrase. his next question in a way that forces. him to give up some Vital Information. I'm not going to speak on what like. anything else besides meia let me ask. you this did you guys talk about. it what do you mean did you guys talk. about it did you and Caleb say hey this. is what we're thinking about cuz I'm. trying to figure out did Alicia is she. the one planning this Alicia had nothing. to any of this so help me understand me. I'll tell you straight up me and Caleb.

together have done crimes before okay. I'm worried about this. one this one right. [Music]. here this supposed to go like that how. was it supposed to. go like said I don't see need to get in. all that it's not going to benefit me or. her poliy or him well right now we're. still trying to figure out her role and. if we can listen to me if we can explain. her role and only there's only two. people that can explain her role you and.

Caleb Caleb ain't talking to us without. us understanding the specifics of how. this went down and if her involvement or. what her involvement was in that with. some expl that we can go back to a DA. and say hey this is what's going on this. person was honest she didn't know was. going to go down but I've got to know. that but I've got to understand how God. planned that you understand I have to. have some type of specifics to try to. sell that. if you want to try to help her help her.

put simply if Devon wants to get Alicia. out of trouble and pro she didn't plan. the murder he'll have to tell them. exactly who did Solving the case for. them on the spot he's been checkmated. because no matter what story he tells. them from this point out they've got the. evidence to prove or disprove it their. entire plan was just to get him to talk. and that's exactly what they've done now. it's finally time they heard the truth. that's why I'm irritated about this cuz. I know this F in the bottom did you see. the confrontation go down between Caleb. and this guy looked like the white dude.

was attacking the other person honestly. but I saw the end of it right before the. dude got shot do you remember when you. say the white dude was attacking the. other guy right could you describe it to. me look like they were squared up and. the white dude was rushing other guy let. me ask you if I stood up would you show. me hm if I stood up and I'm the white. dude would you show me or you be let me. be the shooter you be the white dude. would you do that yeah so I understand. it give me the.

vision so if you're the other dude the. white. dude so I'm the other guy right white do. on a b like this and he look like he. squared up started running toward him. okay what's this guy doing running. backwards that's going to h a gun shot. all right do you remember stand up again. for me so how close are they come to me. where probably about this maybe a little. further okay and then that's when I. heard a gun shot go off and the white. dude rushing them so so the right d is. closing that Gap yeah so come do they.

ever get right on top of each other so. there's always a distance yeah so about. boths so right about both. okay dude the white dude have anything. in his hand I couldn't see I saw the. last interview I wasn't really looking. for details I was kind of confused on. what was going on okay all right this. guy not the white dude the other guy. hands together hands apart. he's kind of like well he was standing.

like this trying to tell the dude to. back up okay and that's when the white. dude kept rushing I'm assuming maybe he. Tred to reach with a gun I don't know. okay but that's when the shot goes was a. gun in the right hand then I can't. remember okay but he had one hand up and. the other hand back yeah that is that. right yeah okay getting a suspect to act. out an incident is a great way of. proving they actually knew what happened. they may be able to match the movements. to the CCTV footage or witness accounts. and a defense team will have a hard time. arguing that anything here could be. misinterpreted from what Devon is saying.

it seems as though there was a struggle. between Caleb and Andrew where the. shooter approached Andrew who quickly. tried to defend himself it's becoming. increasingly obvious that this was. intended to be a robbery but when Andrew. tried to fight back it turned into a. murder in the blink of an eye so when. these guys are in your windshield are. they across from each other like you're. looking at the sides of each other. they're like this position kind of like. this would you drw for me the the white. dude I can't draw but the white dude. standing they're both standing white.

dude's closer to me they kind of like. this all right so you're the driver. right white dude's closer to the front. of the car yeah kind of he's all right. so if you're looking are you looking at. his back you looking at his sides. looking at his front kind of kind of. like that yeah like this where's the. other guy right about where he is I'm K. where where's that you have where's the. other guy they're like they're like that. literally and then but it's it's a. little more way and I'm a little more. back so this way yeah what are you.

seeing at this guy his front I'm not. paying attention to him I'm paying. attention to this guy okay and you think. you see him kind of Rush no he did Rush. okay so he rushes but not to the point. where they're on top of each other no. they didn't get they they didn't get it. the other person was. backpedaling okay so this person's. moving back arm up they being. backpedaling the whole time that's when. the shot goes off okay tell me where. kaleb's arms are at how he I'm I'm not. even saying it was here again it sounds.

as though as soon as Andrew realized he. was being robbed he started to go on the. offensive forcing Caleb backwards. according to Devon he then tried rushing. Caleb which scared Caleb into shooting. him they're slowly closing in on the. truth here but not quite there yet which. is why they're still trying to play some. tricks on Devon to try and get. everything out of him Devon hasn't. admitted that the shooter was Caleb but. notice how the detectives are. consistently naming him as the shooter. throughout the story they're trying to. get Devon to go along with it and agree.

or accidentally admit it himself but. he's not slipping up however the. detectives are Relentless and don't stop. trying for another hour of tireless. interrogation it's then that Devon. finally makes a. mistake goes on what else you guys talk. about you I can't remember all that like. you it's not work on memory memorizing. no not being care about her it had to be. a emotional conversation not really I. mean I mean like don't get me wrong I.

mean I don't know the dude so I mean. it's [ __ ] up they just die cuz I don't. know him I don't know who he is what he. what kind of person he is or any of that. but it didn't really strike me. emotionally cuz I don't I have that many. emotions for I used to do much much so. like this doesn't really I mean I don't. really have many emotions about it. except for I'm pissed that he's in jail. for us I'm pissed that he died of course. cuz I know the guy I was pissed about. that was Caleb. pissed was Caleb pissed yeah he just.

shot. somebody imagine you're in this position. you're trying to hide the facts that. your friend shot an innocent man but the. detectives have been taking that fact. for granted for the past 2 hours they've. been using his name asking questions. about details and refusing to accept the. fact that it might not have been him. eventually you would internally ize this. idea and forget that you even need to.

lie that's what just happened here and. it's why Devon barely even realizes that. he's just confirmed that Caleb was in. fact the shooter of course there were. mountains of evidence against him anyway. but now they have it straight from the. source and a conviction will be easy the. detectives now only have one last. question was this really an accident or. had they planned this out as a murder. from minute one you remember what he. said. is he panicked Oliver's kind of panicked.

cuz like I said I didn't see it coming I. don't like unexpected things like this. happening because of this situation. exactly I mean look at me. now in here for ACC murder that I didn't. see this coming I mean if I do something. it's going to be planned out and it's. going to get done correctly so I'm not. in this situation that's why I was kind. of pissed and I was panick because I. didn't see anything this about thaten so. let me ask you this if this is your deal. and this is this is your plan you say. you you're playing the robber and you've. done we've already talked about that I'm.

not asking when dates when just this is. your your you're doing it's not going to. be random like this it's going to be. planned out oh yeah and it's not be on a. random person usually so what Cale this. other person we're calling would did. pretty amateur hour right huh it's. pretty amateur what what just Happ yeah. yeah like I said it wasn't even planned. so I mean you can't even I don't think. amateur be the right word just random it. wasn't supposed to happen 98% of the. time I rob somebody they're not it's not.

random people which is why I'm irritated. about this whole situation cuz I don't. know who the hell this guy was except. for what the news said but the news. always makes any white dude who dies. look like a peach so I don't know but. that's why I'm irritated about this cuz. I don't know this food nothing about him. Devon's main point ended up being that. if he had planned the murder then they. simply wouldn't have caught him so it. had to have been a spur of the- moment. decision but the detectives didn't buy. it and in fact this approach actually. made things exponentially worse for.

Devon the interrogation ended shortly. after but the detectives decided to do. some further research into these other. robberies they ended up connecting him. and Caleb to multiple other serious. incidents including the robbery of a. cell phone store the very next day and. an incident where they fired shots into. a pregnant woman's home it was clear. that they had been planning multiple. robberies and were using Caleb's gun as. a method of intimidation to make money. and as you could imagine this didn't. look good in court for any of them Devon.

received the highest sentence he was. found guilty on 18 counts including. first-degree murder attempted murder. aggravated robbery and aggravated. intimidation of a witness he was. sentenced to life in prison plus. 279 years Caleb also received a similar. sentence of Life plus 118 years the. fourth passenger in the car eternity. Lopez was also in interrogated but was. found to be completely uninvolved she.

was picked up after the murder so it. seems like she was in the wrong place at. the wrong time she was not charged with. the incident but possibly worst of all. for Devon his efforts in the. interrogation room failed to even help. Alicia get off any lighter she was also. found guilty in the murder of Andrew. jich and was sentenced to life in prison. without the possibility of parole.