Family Realizes A Killer Is Living In Their Vents

Come on outside. Keep your hands rock. What's going on here? Okay, so Ian, is is Thomas snowplan. staying up here? This is the father and son who owned. this ranch house in the New Mexico. desert miles from anywhere. Police. believe a murderer is hiding inside. their home. Thomas Lopez, a man who days. earlier beat his girlfriend to death. Do you know where he might be staying at.

or anything? But what makes this [music] interesting. is that the son is in fact hiding this. man and the father is about to find out. that his son is protecting a murderer. inside the vents of his own home. They said he might be in the vent. Thomas. Thomas, talk to me, man. I know. you're down there. We don't come over here for simple. stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So, what's dead?

On the 24th of February, police were. called to a hospital in New Mexico to. investigate something horrifying. 26-year-old Sabrina Calderon had just. been brought in, unconscious, covered in. bruises, barely clinging on to life. Um, so her name is Sabrina Cauldron. [music]. is in such like dehydration that her. kidneys are failing. She is too sick for. even us to take care. And who brought her in? I believe they said they thought it was.

her dad. What is that? [music] Would you say is. that something from being being hit? Probably. She's 26 years old. She should. [music] not be in this condition. Right. Sabrina is in such critical condition. that the nurses are almost certain she. won't survive. But what made the. hospital so suspicious is that Sabrina's. injuries were that of someone who had. been viciously beaten. And the man who. dropped her off left almost as quickly. as he possibly could. The hospital. called in police, but with no leads, the. cops decided to use her emergency.

contact info and call up her dad to see. if he could shed any light on what just. happened. Can you hear me now, Mr. Calderon? Uh, yes. Could you tell me what happened real. quick? Why she has these injuries? Uh, yes. Uh oh. Thomas Lopez. He got her. from here. I guess that knife point. He. took her over there and uh. where's over there? It's a ranch house. He had her locked up. in the room and he was just beating her. She he was being there every day. That was almost disturbingly simple.

Apparently, a man had taken her at knife. point from her [music] dad's home and. was beating her every day at a house out. on a ranch somewhere in New Mexico. The. cops find it extremely strange that he. never contacted police. So, there is. some amount of suspicion to cast on him. Regardless, they ask him for some. details about the guy that he claims did. this to her, knowing that if this lead. hits a dead end, they know who to. suspect next. Where does he live at? He was just going from place to place.

How did you get her? He ended up taking her to the hospital. and I thank God for that. And dropped up. and took off. Do you know what he looks like? I I sure don't. I don't. Say his name. one more time. Uh, Thomas Lopez. Thomas Lopez. Okay. Police now have a name. Thomas Lopez. The victim's father claims that Lopez. was the one who both attacked and. dropped Sabrina off at the hospital, which would explain why he was in such a. big rush to leave. Where do you think he resides? Mostly in.

Carlsbad or in Portales? I mean, he he just stay wherever he. could. I guess. it seems like Thomas is going to be. extremely difficult to track down. The. cops don't have a description of him. He. has a common name and constantly jumps. from place to place without a known. address. If this guy had gone on the. run, it could be weeks before they. managed to find him. But that's when. everything changed. Sabrina briefly woke. up and found the strength to confirm. that it was indeed Thomas that had done. all this to her. And she managed to give.

police the address of the ranch her. father mentioned. All before taking her. final breath and dying moments later. Sabrina had just solved her own murder. Immediately, the cops head to the. address heavily armed, knowing that they. might come face to face with an. aggressive killer. However, there is one. problem. Police haven't had time to get. a search warrant, meaning that they have. no right to enter the home without. permission. That means they're stuck.

outside knowing that just feet away a. brutal murderer could be hiding. Ian, is that you? Ian, come to the front door for me. Hold on a second. Who is it? It's the sheriff's office. Let me let me see your hands. Come.

outside. Let me see your hands. Let me. see your hands. Is the dog okay? Yes, sir. Hey, Rice. I got contact. I don't have. nothing. Okay. Sit tight right here, man. Okay. Yes, sir. I'm sorry. This is Ian, part owner of this ranch. and good friend of Thomas Lopez. Sabrina. had told cops about him and said that he. could be vital to tracking Thomas down. At this point, the cops have no idea how. much Ian knows. But they do know that. his house is supposedly where Sabrina. was attacked. For all they know, he. could have been involved as well. So,

they have to be extremely cautious when. dealing with him and clearing out the. house. Who's all here, man? My father, my friend, Bugy. What's Bugsy's real name? I don't know. Come on outside. Keep your hands to see him. What's going on here? Smoking staying. out here or has he been out here? Um, I've been out here a few times, but. yeah, I see. Is there anybody else inside? You said. Bugsy, if I can go with you at the door,

can you call her outside? Yeah. Okay. You want me to go get her? Yeah. Well, just call her from the door, please. Bugsy is another one of Ian's friends. that happened to be staying at the. property around this time. She couldn't. have anything to do with the crime, but. cops are still pleased to hear that. there might be another witness and. someone that could help them track their. suspect down. So, what we're doing is. we're asking everybody to come out of. the house cuz we're fixing to do a. search warrant on the house. And. supposedly, there was an incident a. couple of nights ago where somebody got. beat up out here. And so, now we're.

securing the house to do a search. warrant [music] for evidence. Okay. See how Perry keeps looking over. to Ian. It's almost like he knows. something is wrong because this isn't. the first time that Ian's brought. criminals over to this house. Something. police would later bring up. With that. said, Perry obviously doesn't want to. give his own son up to the police, so he. decides to stay quiet. We're We're good. Uh we're out here with. Ian Wayland and his dad, and so there's.

nobody else in the trailer, so both are. just chilling out here. Work for Temple. Notice how Ian doesn't say a word. That's because he just hours earlier. helped Thomas crawl into the vents. inside his house to hide him from the. cops. However, his father has absolutely. no idea. Yeah, we're good. We're good for the. next few minutes out here. Uh, just a warrant. That'll work. Thank you. Well, we don't have it right now. We're. getting it. Like I said, we just came. here. Okay. Well, then we don't had to do. anything. You say.

we're securing the house. You don't actually have a warrant. No, I do not have toan. Ian, Ian, I can't do anything. Come here. I'm exercising my rights. Ian, come here so we can talk. Okay. Would you mind if I walked inside. with you just so we can make sure. there's nobody else inside? Sure. Okay, I I will go with you. Like I said, I'm not looking for anything except for. just make sure there's nobody inside. They're still not 100% sure that the. house is empty. Ian mentioned someone. called Bugsy, but wasn't sure if they.

were still around or not. So, the. officer prepares to head inside and. clear the scene with Ian. Thank you. You have to you might have to put on. some lights. Yeah, go for it, man. It make it easier. for both of us, man. And you don't have anybody staying with. you currently? No. No. I just want to make sure, you know, not.

somebody waiting behind me, you know. Shit's back here, man. So, okay. Do you mind if I walk make sure. there's nobody on this side? Go ahead. Appreciate it, man. Yeah, absolutely, bro. Okay. Thank you. Do you mind if I walk in. here? Like I said, I'm not worried. Go ahead. Go ahead. I'm not looking for anything. Just make. sure nobody's in here. Sure. It happens, man. Um, do you mind. if I take a look inside? Appreciate that, too.

Okay. Thank you. My cross be filing. Right on. Do you have just friends stay. from time to time or you got every once. in a while, you know? Hey. Hey. Sorry. My bad. Hey, I'm right here. Okay. Come back here. What? You under the covers. Let me see your. hands. What's up? There's somebody under the blanket. there. You under the covers. Let me see.

your hands. Let me see your hands. It's not a guy, but you see it's not a guy. Okay. All right. [laughter]. Mind coming with us, ma'am? You're looking for. Okay. No, she's fine. Look, you we're not looking for her, but. we do, ma'am, need to ask that you uh. come outside with us. Clearly, Bugsy isn't the person they are. looking for, but she would turn out to. be extremely useful to the case down the. line. She's been staying at the house. recently, so the cops keep her around. thinking she might have seen something. Ian didn't. The officer then clears the.

rest of the house and finds it to be. totally empty. In the meantime, the. officer outside catches Perry up on. everything that's been going on at the. house lately and what they plan to do in. the search. So, you got to refer to this Thomas. Yes. Yeah. Thomas has gotten himself into. some pretty heavy at this point. So, uh. yeah, by what I've seen other than I. don't care for the dude. Okay. Uh keep this between me and you. Uh.

I'm here trying to make [ __ ] right and I. apologize [music]. for my son. You know what happens? Okay. Not dude. Okay. That's Yeah, obviously not the guy. we're looking for. So, Mr. Whan. Yes. Um, so they're fine where they are right. now, but what it's sounding like is uh. the investigators are wanting to do the. entire property covered in the search. warrant. So, what does that mean? Well, meaning the. car is going to have to stay here. They can they're okay in there for now.

Um, but they and they are asking the. the entire property. Y'all want to go. through the [music] barns and. Yes, sir. That's what it's sounding. like. We could probably go do that right now. Well, the warehouse is locked up and the. barn's unlocked. Okay. But I could take y'all on a tour if you. want. Yeah, we're going to wait for them to. get the paperwork done just so that I. don't think I'll be honest with I don't. think Thomas is hiding in the shop or. something like that. But on the off. chance that he is, I don't want him to. have the uh. the ability to talk to a lawyer and say, "Will they illegally search the barn?".

Even if we have permission at this. point, we're just going to kind of stand. by and do it through the by the books so. the paperwork. Okay. The thing is, Officer Rice was wrong. thinking that Thomas wasn't hiding on. the property. Had he gone looking for. him on his own, things could have ended. much, much worse for him. However, the. day is coming to an end, and it's time. for the officers to go over everything. they've figured out so far. However, they can't risk Ian or Perry overhearing. any of this. See if you can figure out. why that might be, and we'll reveal it.

after this clip. She's been living here. Probably. Did you ask her? I've asked. her question. I would ask her cuz if she. has been living here, she might have. witnessed this. Sorry, I don't mean to be on edge, but. you. Yeah, especially after Yeah. But um. I guess the way it's looking she died. from that whole situation like those. beatings. I see. I'm guessing there was some internal.

injuries. Okay. So it wasn't like he tracked her down. and the way it seemed. Okay. The officers are clearly trying as hard. as they can to conceal the exact details. of the case from Ian and Perry. That's. because detectives plan to interview. them later. So, the less information. that gets put into their heads, the. better. This is usually for two main. reasons. If they're guilty of something, this stops them from changing their. answers to hide evidence based on what. they know. Or if they're just a witness, it stops them from giving answers based. on what they heard from the cops rather.

than what they actually saw, protecting. their credibility in court. It should be. made clear that this isn't the first. time that cops have been dispatched to. Ian's house. And in fact, multiple. criminals had been arrested here before, though never Ian himself. He just seems. to hang around with the wrong people. Let me tell you, okay. Hey, listen. They're expanding the. search to the whole property. He cannot. take the car. Okay. So, okay. So, the thing is with it is. you guys physically yourselves are not.

being detained. Okay. Other than I guess. today, any other issues going on? Okay, that's that's good, I guess. Unfortunately, no. you know, got a nice place out here. I'd be more. selective about who comes out. Yeah. Dude, honestly, I used when I lived out. in the county, if I had friends over and. they brought somebody I didn't know, I. would straight up tell them, "Guys, I'm. cool with all y'all." But I don't know. him. He said, "And if I don't know him, he doesn't need to be here.". If you haven't noticed, the longer this. goes on for, the more uncomfortable Ian.

seems to get. And as that continues, the. cops start to get more suspicious, too. After having multiple criminals caught. and arrested on his property, you'd. think he'd start to be more careful. about who comes over. That's what made. the cops suspicious here. If he's been. hanging around so many criminals, he. might feel obligated to cover up for. them. That's the main thing on the. officer's mind when he decides to bring. Ian to the interview room. But they. actually decide to wait before. questioning him. They have a fairly. large number of witnesses for the case, so they want to get as much information. from the others first before talking to.

the riskiest of the group. Ideally, they'll get information that could help. catch Ian in a lie and force him into. telling the truth. So, they start by. questioning his father, Perry, the owner. of the property. Too many people coming and going. [music] I'm getting sick of this. So, you were in your room. They had been. there a couple of days. Um, you heard. her getting slapped. You knew she was. getting slapped by the way she was. sounding. You peeked out. Ian was. telling him, "Hey, y'all need to calm. and quit this or whatever he said." the. girl outside, this Elizabeth chick um. and some other guy gave the girl that.

was being slapped after she said, "Y'all. need to help me.". But that apparently was two different. women. See, I thought the girl that. would got beat up was. not this girl. I don't know. I'll stay back in my room. But you saw a woman getting beat, but I didn't think it was her. She was. already in Carl's bad, right? Is it. time? She just barely got in crawls back. Probably Friday. It seems that Perry absolutely heard.

Thomas attacking at least one woman, but. wasn't able to confirm who it was. He. backs up Ian's propensity to let anyone. and everyone over to the house and tells. the cops that it was bound to end up. badly eventually. If Perry can identify. the girl that he saw Thomas hitting. though, it could be a massive help for. the cops as it would mean all the. evidence lines up and they can begin. their search for him immediately. Supposedly you just got the you got the. faces mixed up cuz you don't see him. Sure, but you know what? Thought I thought there's two. there. And there was there is Thomas did.

beat up another girl. that he has warrants out for his arrest. now, too. That's why he's running. Does he beat up every woman he comes in. contact with? See, I thought we was talking about. another woman. I knew this I knew of. this chick. The picture you showed me, I. knew her going to the ER, but the chick that I heard through the. wall saying, "Y'all got to help me." was. not her. Perry is saying that he had heard Thomas.

beating a girl up, but that it was a. completely different girl to the one. that they were looking for. So now there. was even more reason to catch him as. soon as possible, as [music] it seems. like this wasn't an isolated incident at. all. Maybe I'm confused cuz Okay, once. she went to the ER, she never went back. to the house, right? Okay, [clears throat]. I'm thinking of another chick. Does that. make sense? No, but we'll figure it out. I'm sorry, man. I'm sorry. This whole thing is just confusing this.

for me. [music] I need to be more. involved. I know. with who comes and goes, but you know, [music] he thinks he's a grown ass man. now. Ian's going to have to start putting his. split down about who stays at the house. Made it simple. Well, we need to get. this man. [clears throat]. Perry unfortunately didn't have much. else to add. So now they turn their. attention to Bugsy, their surprised. witness, who might just have the answers. they're looking for. Okay. Cuz you might have might have seen.

or heard something that happened out. there at Ian's house a couple days ago. Um, honestly, I just got there today to. do some laundry, so I have. Well, Ian says you were out there a. couple of days ago whenever this. incident happened. Okay. Oh, okay. Do you know Thomas, the guy that's. always out there with Ian and all them. guys? I mean, I've seen him a few times out. there. Yeah. I mean, even if I was if I. was there, I didn't I mean, I didn't see. none of that. Did you hear any of it? I didn't. At first glance, it seems like.

Bugsy might not be as much help as they. anticipated. But things can change quite. quickly when a witness is told just how. serious the situation is. That's why the. officer decides to let her in on what. happened to Sabrina and see if that jogs. her memory at all. The reason we're here is because there's. a girl that was with Thomas today. [music] She started having complications. from what Thomas and Sabrina had an. altercation over. Okay. She is now deceased. Unfortunately for the cops, this didn't.

change [music] the fact that Bugsy. hadn't seen anything at the house. However, she was able to give them one. piece of information that could end up. proving infinitely more useful than what. they were hoping for initially. She gave. them the address of another house Thomas. was known to stay at. Inside that house. is actually another one of Thomas's. victims, and the police are about to. discover that he's actually a serial. domestic abuser. This is crucial to. build a strong case against Thomas. Gooding yourself?

Pretty good. All right. Looking for Thomas? He's not here. Um my my friend. Mon'nique, that's her boyfriend. Okay. She asked me to stay here because she's. Is Mo'Nique not here either? No, she not. She went She went out to. Clovis. Okay. And I'm just watching. Do you know where Thomas is? He's not supposed to be here. I just really need to talk to him. He's not supposed to be here. We changed. the locks for the locks for him. She's really scared of him. So. Oh, yeah. Yes. We changed the locks. [clears throat]. Okay. Was she battered a while back? Yes. Is that what that. Do you mind if we just make sure he's. not in the house?

That's fine. What's that? I'm her friend. But nobody else is in this house. Yeah. Um the only thing is that she called me. since she scared me. My boyfriend changed out the box. for her. He took her phone. Oh, he took her phone. Well, you're saying her? Who? Who are. you talking about? She hasn't been here all day. back in. the day here, sir. But she still lives here. Yes. Yes. She hasn't had contact with him that you. would know of. She pretty much wanted. nothing to do with him. How long ago was.

it was their incident that happened? That was [music] yesterday. But she. called me and told me to come to to come. change out her locks because she's. scared of the one. It turns out this is the home of the. other girl that Thomas had reportedly. been beating, which if anything is. worrying the cops even more since we. know he's not limiting his violence to. one girl. It would make sense if he's. hiding out here waiting for this girl to. come back home. The homeowner, however, is telling the cops that he's not here. and she's not seen him for days.

Is she working or where is she at? Um, she just got out of rehab and well, she went to Clovis with her daughter. Oh, I mean I guess that's what I mean. About yesterday. Does he have any friends around here. that we know that he hangs out with? Family. know of him because she's my friend, but. I know she don't have nobody. He. terrorizes her. Do you think he still has her phone? Oh, he does. Get that number. He does have her. The officers continued. to search every room in the house as. well as the attic, but weren't able to.

find him anywhere. According to everyone. they' talked to, Thomas had gone off the. grid and was nowhere to be seen. But. there was still one person they hadn't. talked to. [music]. The one person that they knew was acting. strange from the very beginning. Ian. Whan. If anyone was going to know where. he was, it was going to be Ian. So later. that night, they brought him into the. interrogation room for hopefully the. last interview that they need in this. case. Their their cameras are down, so I'm.

using this thing. Okay. Okay. I'll explain to you why we're here. talking. You're not in any kind of trouble. Okay. Oh my god. I'm not in any trouble. You have any idea why you might be down. here? Well, yes. Because of the fight or whatever, [music] I guess that Thomas had, right? Do you know anything else about. it? No. [clears throat]. Remember, Ian hasn't been told any. details of what actually happened yet. He doesn't know that Thomas killed.

Sabrina or even that there was a. physical exchange, but that's all about. to change in just a few moments. Tom, let's talk about Thomas Lopez. When. was the last time you seen him? It's been about like a day or so. A day or so. [music] What about his. girlfriend Sabrina? About a day or so. Okay. What happened between Sabrina and. Thomas? I just like heard an. altercation. I didn't like see anything. I just heard them screaming at each. other enough to where it alarmed me. And. Were they inside your house when they.

did that when they were screaming? Okay. Was there any anything physical. going on or just screaming? Did you see. anything physical? Did you hear anything. physical? Did you hear yelling stop or. stop or anything? Mhm. [clears throat]. No. So, whatever you heard screaming and. stuff, where were they at? Like I guess it would be like down. towards the kitchen area. I don't know. I heard them yelling and whatnot and I. went out there and I was like, "Hey, man. Are y'all okay?" And they just. like, "Yeah, man. Fine." You know, and what did she say? Nothing. It's clear Ian was around when.

the fight happened, but it seems like he. didn't realize how bad things had. actually gotten. Apparently, Sabrina was. actually crying when he went to talk to. them, but he just figured it wasn't his. business and went back to sleep in his. room. Do you know what the fight was about? I. don't. And honestly, I've got so much. stuff of my own crap. Like, okay. When was the last time you heard. from Sabrina? I don't know Sabrina. Like, I I'm not making this up. Like, but she was that's Thomas's girlfriend. or whoever.

I I don't even know that. Like, I just. know that that that there was an. altercation between I I don't even know. if this Sabrina is if this is who like. messed up teeth. I'm assuming that's who it was. So that. day that whenever we went out there with. extension, as the officer mentioned earlier, Ian. has a habit of letting people that he. barely knows stay at his house. But it. turns out this is a recipe for disaster. Since people know he likely won't get. involved in their business, they see. this property as an area out in the. middle of nowhere where they can do.

whatever they want with no eyes on them. at all. Initially, this only resulted in. smaller crimes, robbery or drug. possession. But this time, it turned. into something much more serious. And. Ian is now about to find out exactly. what happened. Do you know why I'm here? No. Remember I told you last time we don't. we don't come over here for simple. stuff. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. I remember you told me that. So, what's up? She's dead.

You'reing me. What happened? Do you. know? Well, from what she told us before she. died was that she was getting her ass. beat by Thomas over that your house in. the barn with the cough. Died. Mhm. And so whenever you heard him arguing. when he said he was getting pretty. roughed her, what did you see him do? Like just slapping her. Slapping her. Well, I just trying to figure out what. happened. And first of all, he's in your. house. He know. So we. from the very beginning cops figured he.

knew a little more than he was letting. on. Now he knows exactly what happened, how serious it was, and what the. consequences will be if he doesn't give. up everything he knows. Not only will he. be implicated on the crime, but if. Thomas is on the property and he ends up. harming an officer, that will be his. fault. The question is, is that enough. for him to turn in his friend? When was. the last time you seen Thomas? When even. Okay. Is he at your house? I don't know.

Where does he hide? In your house. whenever the cops are trying to get him. Where did Where would he go hide inside? We're over there. Okay. The house is. secure. We're going to search warrant. for it. Where would he be hiding? If. he's in your house, where would he be. at? You don't want that problem at your. house? No. Like, I didn't know. Have you seen Thomas? Have you seen Thomas today? Tell me the truth, man. Yeah. I mean, where was he at when you seen him? uh in the house. Okay. Was he there when the cops got. there just a while ago?

Um. Ian, can we take the. Oh, you can't do that. This is Ian's ultimatum. Ian had been. put in a scary position. He knew what. the right thing to do was, but he was. also terrified of this footage getting. out. Amongst the people he hung around, he didn't want to be seen as someone. untrustworthy, so he asked for the. camera to be turned off and told the. detectives the truth. Ian admitted that.

Thomas was at his house. In fact, he was. hiding in the vents. Apparently, that's. where he was the whole time. Now, the. cops knew exactly where he was, but. getting to him would be no easy task. To. arrest him, they'd have to try. everything they could to make contact. with him or else get into the cramped. vents with a known killer, right? Damn it. He knows we're here. I. assume he knows we're going to come. back, I guess. I don't know.

In the interview, they said he might be. in the vent. Uh, yeah, that's what they're claiming. is that he might be. So, if he's in A's vent, the only one. large enough for an adult that I know of. is when you go in, there's a hallway. that goes all the way back to the house. There'll be a blanket in the hallway. right now. As we go in, still clear all the little. areas that we go past. So, I don't want. to get fixated and have him come out. behind us. You hit that vent. The only downside is. you'll have two rooms to clear in the. hallway before the vent. The last door. is literally next to the vent. We'll figure it out if anybody sees.

something weird. Several cops made it to the scene a few. minutes earlier and have managed to. locate the vent they think he's hiding. inside of. Thomas, this is the Roosevelt County. Sheriff's Office. Come outside. He's not answering or nothing. He might. answer. Let him know if he does. Look around.

Sheriff's Office. Deputy Bachman. Call. out, man, with your hands up. Know. you're down there. Is that the bank you went in or this? Is this over? I saw it. It goes down. There's no. access back there. Ian had cuz Ian had the screw. He puts the vent back on so he can do. his own. The officers are right. The vent cover. couldn't have been put in place from the. inside. So Ian had to have helped him.

hide. But they'll figure out what to do. about that later. For now, they need to. figure out a way to get Thomas out of. the vents. To start with, locate his. exact position. And they came up with a. creative solution to do this. He's right there. These How far. approximately. all the way down there's a bit. Just trying to see if there's a mirror. I got a good point. This needs duct tape. and a mirror. There's probably duct tape.

in the garage. Tape a phone and. flashlight. together. Stick down in there just so we. get some really good light and light up. I just have to confirm. It sounds far-fetched, but after. pointing a phone and a torch deep into. the vents, they were able to confirm. precisely where Thomas was. See, it looks like you can see the back. of his neck, a jacket. [music].

The problem was he still wasn't. responding, and they certainly didn't. want to get in the vents with him. So, while another group of officers checked. the outside to ensure he couldn't. escape, the cops tried desperately to. reach out to him. But quickly, they. started to get concerned about something. else entirely. Thomas, if you can hear me, man, answer. I know you're down there. I We saw you. in the pictures. Answer me. Just let me. know you're okay, man.

Are you okay down there? Yeah. Don't move, man. at your door. Like you would think that he'd shuffle a. little bit. I haven't heard him. Well, looks like he's moved since. Yeah, but like no noise, nothing. Thomas had been down there for hours. now, possibly even days. The cops know.

he's there, but they haven't seen his. face or any movement whatsoever. They're. fearing the worst, but they still can't. risk going down there with him. That's. when one of the officers gets a genius. idea. You're going to want to push him back. this [music] way cuz he's going to have. to come out this way. So, if you introduce gas, you want to. introduce it on that. Okay. Have a fogger or [clears throat]. spray. Yeah. I would introduce it down there. You want to do the same thing with a. video. It may make him uncomfortable.

enough that he'll come out. That going. to make you cough. Turn around. It looks like he's facing. us. Hey, his his head's up here for. sure. He went in deeper. Yeah, cuz you don't want them to crawl. So, I would introduce it over there, [music] too. Pushing him this way. Yeah. Yeah. They're planning to shoot pepper spray. into both ends of the vents, forcing him. out. If he was to stay inside, he'd end. up choking and writhing in the pain the. gas caused. But it turns out this plan. was so smart and terrifying to Thomas.

that they wouldn't even have to put this. into action. I hear him. Hey, come on out, man. Dude, come on out. What do you come out and we'll talk? I'm I'm scared, sir. Well, there's nothing to be scared. about. Come on out. Okay, I've been beat up by the cops. before. I understand, but nobody's going to hurt. you. I just need you to come out slow. Yep. We'll get you some to go. We'll get. some.

be. got some dirt in there. You want to take. the hood off? The concept of being stuck in the vents. with the pepper spray was just too much. to Thomas. And with some convincing, they were able to get him out. The ideas. and tactics used in this extraction were. far from textbook, but they were. incredibly smart. Now they just had one. more job to do. Interrogate Thomas and.

finally figure out the truth of what. happened to Sabrina. Move all this over here. Okay. You speak. English or Spanish? Both. Okay. You want. Preferably English though? Preferably English. We'll stick with. English. So listen to me. We are in America. You have the right to remain silent. Anything you say can and will be used. against you in a court of law. Well, what we are here for is. what happened with Sabrina the other. night. That's what all this is about. There is an enormous amount of evidence.

against Thomas. Remember, everyone. involved in the case has pointed the. finger towards him, including the murder. victim herself, but that doesn't mean. he's not going to try and defend. himself. Notably, without the presence. of a lawyer. The story he chooses to go. with though isn't the most convincing. Okay, we we talked to Sabrina. Okay, she. told us what happened to her. Okay, I. need you to be honest with me. and tell me the truth. Okay, were y'all. guys fighting that night? Just an argument. That's all it was. We. weren't fighting. We didn't get past.

school. Did she How many times did she hit you? I don't want her to get in trouble, sir. Okay. How many times did you hit her? I didn't hit her. We just bumping each. other like you know what I mean? Did you. shove her down the steps? Spray her. across those fingers. I want to show. her. That's my kid's mom. But. you guys had a kid together? I don't want to hurt her. So tell me what happened in that bar. That's when she fell. And certainly we. went back there and argued cuz I want we. didn't want to be arguing in in that. house. I don't want to get thrown out. cuz I I know where I don't have nowhere. to live. But.

apparently they went out to the barn. because they didn't want to argue in the. house and Sabrina slipped and fell down. some steps causing all of her injuries. You guys are arguing. Okay. And it did. get physical, but you didn't want to. tell me what happened, right? Is that. what you're telling me? It got physical, but you didn't want to tell me what. happened. We just kind of like just got in each. other's face about it. Was that the same you took her to the. hospital? [music]. Um, I mean, it was it was ongoing for. like a couple days. So, you guys were just like basically. arguing for two days.

pretty much. When was the pushing and shoving? I want to say pushing and shoving. We. just kind of. a chest pump and whatever. Yeah. When. was that? All right. During that that. night when she [ __ ] fell. Okay. So, you guys just do this chest. chest p. cuz we we don't want to argue in that. house cuz I don't want to get thrown out. of there. Thomas is also claiming that he didn't. hit her or even push her around. The. worst they did was get into each other's. faces and bumped each other's chests. As. I'm sure you're aware, that's not.

exactly consistent with Sabrina's. injuries or what she told the police. But Thomas's story gets even more. unbelievable as he continues. So then you guys go out to the barn. What happens next? We just sitting there just smoking a. cigarette and stuff. We're up there. So you guys go up and are you like. upstairs in the barn? Is that what. you're saying? Yeah. In that loft. You start up there. and then she starts coming back down and. she [ __ ] loses her foot. You know, there she goes down the damn steps. So, where was So, when was the. I pick her up, walk her to the house,

and she's like, "Well, if I can't get. bear no more, then I need you to take me. to the emergency room.". So, when was when was the uh the chest. bumping or uh all that? When where was. that at? It's kind of beginning when we got in. there, like got in there, then that's. when [music]. How'd she fall down the stairs? She lost her footing, you guess. Like, you look at the stairs and they're. inside that place. It's there's a big. ass gap between each. It's not. constructed pretty good. There's like. some [ __ ] some just put together like. [music]. are we talking from the top all the way.

to the bottom? It's like halfway toward the bottom. She. lost her footing. All kinds of [music] junk and stuff. that's in that barn. So, not only did Thomas not have. anything to do with her injuries, but. when she got hurt, they'd already made. up. He believes that this story has. explained away why Ian will have heard. shouting in the house, why they went out. to the barn, and why Sabrina got such. horrific injuries. This is why it's so. important that detectives keep as much.

of the evidence as possible secret. He's. constructed a story that technically. covers up all the evidence that he. thinks exists. And while it's not. comprehensive, it would definitely make. proving his guilt in a courtroom. slightly harder. But it doesn't explain. a huge number of other things like how. the injuries were sustained by a golf. club or the drugs Sabrina said he. injected her with. Both things he. doesn't know the cops know about. And in. fact, he was never able to explain these. other things away. There was simply too.

much evidence for Thomas to deal with, and he chose to plead guilty at his. trial. Nurses from the hospital told the. jury that Thomas had initially told them. she'd fallen down the stairs, too. But. Sabrina immediately refuted this claim. when she woke up. She said he'd hit her. multiple times with his bare fists, struck her multiple times full force. with a golf club, and had her tied up to. a chair in the barn for a large amount. of time while this all happened. Even. worse, she said this had been going on. for around a month. And for the entire.

time, she felt as though she had been. held captive. Obviously, there wasn't. much Thomas could do against this. defense, and he was convicted of murder, kidnapping, and resisting an officer. He. was sentenced to 18 years behind bars.