Colorado Hitman Caught On Camera Moments Before Executing Her Target
Hi. Thank you for coming down. We're. gonna go right over here. >> Um, you're Devon. >> Yes. >> We kind of kind of step back here a. little bit. Your exboyfriend is it? He. died today. >> This is 26-year-old Devon Shriner, and. she's learning that the father of her. 5-year-old son has just been brutally. executed in broad daylight by a masked. headman.
I heard three bang bang bang and then I. saw a guy running through that. direction. >> While officers chased the shooter. through backyards and surrounding. streets, the killers are already two. steps ahead. The hitman who carried out. this homicide has been working for. months with someone inside law. enforcement, giving them a major. advantage over the police. And as. detectives try to catch up, the murder.
duo's plan is already moving forward. because there's still one more person. who needs to die. >> That's off your phone. >> What else did you want to show? >> It's just after 12:00 p.m. on a. Wednesday in Longmont. 33-year-old Jason. Schaefer, a single father to a. 5-year-old boy, is working his usual. postal route through a quiet.
neighborhood, just like he has countless. times before. He's nearing the end of. his shift and heading towards one of his. final stops for the day in Somerset. Meadows. Jason doesn't know it yet, but. for the past 3 months, someone has been. tracking his movements, waiting for this. exact moment, and making sure this. delivery is going to be his last. talking about 911. Address of the. emergency. >> Yes. Hi. Our post our post office guy.
was just shot. I heard four shots and. he's down. >> Did anyone witness this? We saw someone. run. >> We heard four shots. I couldn't identify. him. I just saw a backside of a man. running away after four shots.
Can you give us a different map. here? >> Bring them over. >> Pick them up. So far. world. had no air. No air. Stand by. Just throw. him on the bed. >> Unfortunately, by the time officers and. medics arrive, the man has stopped.
breathing. And with CPR failing, he has. rushed to the hospital in a final. attempt to save his life. Officers are. now left with an unusual crime scene and. far more questions than answers. They. need to determine why Jason was. targeted. Search the surrounding area. for any witnesses and track down the. unknown shooter. Officers don't know. this yet, but they are running out of. time. Because Jason isn't the only. target of the shooter.
At this point, the commotion in the. unusually calm neighborhood causes many. residents to come out of their houses. And while most of them do so out of. curiosity, one of the residents. approaches an arriving officer claiming. he has the exact information they need. >> I need you to go that way. >> About five or 10 minutes ago, I heard. three b and then I saw a guy with a with. kind of about a 30 guy with a jacket and.
running to that direction. Just start. let's start working south for a. perimeter south and then we'll get him. set up east. Hey Pierce, last. information he was running southbound. and then headed south west from Heather. Hill Circle diagonally through the. houses. with the neighbor confirming that the. suspect was a hooded man wearing a. jacket. Officers believe they're looking. for a male suspect. That description.
will soon prove dangerously misleading. But the neighbor also reveals that the. suspect fled south, making the next. objective for police clear. Contain the. area and locate the armed suspect. >> It seems. as officers search the neighborhood. using drones and K9 units, they find no.
sign of the suspect. By this point, nearly an hour has passed. Yet, investigators still know little about. the victim or why someone would execute. a mail carrier in broad daylight. So, with no clear motive and few leads, they. turn to the residents for answers, hoping someone knew Jason or witnessed. something that could explain the. shooting. Luckily, one of the residents. is about to provide police with a piece. of evidence that will prove crucial in. identifying the shooter. I just saw.
the shooter running away. >> Okay. >> And I I didn't see anything in his hands. or anything like that. Just a a jogging. pace. He wasn't even running fast. He. was just jogging. >> I ran into my neighbor and you'll have. to talk to her across the street because. she actually spoke with the postman, >> okay, >> minutes before the shooting. >> Hello. Have officers been over here by chance. to talk to you guys?
>> No, when it first happened, but. >> were you out here? Did you hear or see. anything? >> Yeah. So, I was checking my mail at the. same time that. you're good. >> And I saw a guy black lose his mouth. walking. Okay. All right. >> So, walking towards here and honestly, as soon as I closed my door, I heard the. gunshots and saw that guy take off. So, here he is walking up. Oh, he walked around, but he walked. behind those houses and you'll hear the.
gunshots actually at about 15 seconds. and then he runs back that way. Must. live somewhere in this neighborhood if. they were coming in this way. >> This is exactly what officers need. Although the images are difficult to. make out, detectives finally get their. first look at the suspect. The dark. clothing, hood, and masks support the.
witness's description. More importantly, the footage shows the figure approaching. the mail carrier calmly before opening. fire. There is no visible argument and. no hesitation, suggesting the attack was. anything but random. The shooter appears. to know exactly who Jason is and exactly. where he would be. As detectives study. the footage, others contact Jason's. supervisors, hoping they might have an. idea of who's responsible for the. shooting. However, once they arrive, the. officers will discover that this.
homicide is only one part of a much. bigger, deranged plan that had been. building for the past year. And that. Jason's murder may have only been the. beginning. >> Hi, you can say stay seated or whatever. you like to do. So, my name is John. I'm. glad to talk to you with Longmont PD. >> Well, what's your involvement with all. this? >> Um, I'm the supervisor, but he's also a. really good friend. >> Okay. >> Um, he's been like telling me what's. going on with his situation and.
everything right now. >> His name is Jason. >> Jason Schaefer. He just on Friday, his. lawyer just filed papers for they've. been going through a big custody battle, but she hasn't been speaking to him at. all. So, he filed some more papers so. that he could get more time. came and I. know she probably would have been served. today. She also works for the post. office but in Loveland um she showed up. one day and said she was there to help. and as soon as he left she left. Like. she didn't even help us or anything. It. was weird. And then the other day I.
caught her and they're going through his. stuff at his case. >> So this is. this is Jason's. >> six-year-old. >> like the the mother of his of his. six-year-old. Okay. Where's the six-year-old now? >> Probably with the mom. >> With the mom. Okay. Well, what is her. name? >> Her name is Devon. Yep. >> D E B A and then it's Shriner as her. last name. >> Jason's supervisor goes on to explain.
that Devon and Jason had worked at the. same post office, but their arguments. eventually became so serious that Devon. was transferred to another location. They also learned that coincidentally, just 2 days earlier, Jason had filed for. full custody over their 5-year-old son. With that, police finally have their. first real lead on who might know more. about what happened to Jason. But. they're still only scratching the. surface of how deep this entire scheme. goes. >> If you don't do this, AJ knows where you.
live and he has his guns. >> I mean, my son. I am worried about my. son. >> I think the gig is up. People don't go. around just shooty bust of people. >> You specifically headed out for Jason's. Can you explain that? >> As officers prepare to investigate Devon. further, they receive devastating news. from the hospital. Jason has died from. his injuries, officially turning the. investigation into a homicide. And with. Devon now emerging as a possible.
suspect, detectives know they need to. speak with her. There's just one. problem. At this point, they have no. evidence connecting her to the shooting. If anything, the surveillance footage. appears to point away from her with the. person fleeing the scene looking like a. man. So, investigators need to. understand exactly what was happening. between her and Jason and whether there. was anyone close to them who might know. something they don't. That leads them to. Devon's younger sister, Rosa. While.
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just for privacy. Okay. Um, I can only. imagine what you're going through. Um, I'm not even going to pretend to. understand, but I just want to get to. know you a little bit more and we'll. take it at your pace. if you want to. take a break or anything, we can do. that. Okay. >> Okay. Yeah, I hear you. Lots. >> has lots going on. Um. um can you kind of walk me through maybe. by starting on how your and Devon's.
relationship was? >> So then in the beginning of this year, I. moved in with her here in Wow. We lived together for a bit in her house. and then we had an apartment together. in June. and then there was a situation between. her and I. She kicked me out anyways and. then I. started.
>> Okay. >> Here, Rosa reveals something the. investigators never expected. It turns. out after she was kicked out of Devon's. apartment, she moved in with Jason and. started dating him. For detectives, that. gives Devon yet another possible reason. to resent Jason, especially if her. sister and ex-boyfriend were now taking. care of her child together. But while. this gives them another possible motive. to look into, Rosa isn't done surprising. the detectives just yet. Because if what. she says next is true, her sister might.
be completely innocent. Um, and and I. know this is probably not easy to talk. about, but what was their relationship. like that you know of? >> I know was on and off because she was. with different people during that time. So, >> okay. Do you know why they were on and. off again for that long? >> Because she cheated. >> That was the main source of their. arguments in their relationship was cuz. she was cheating on him. >> in the past. She, this was before I. lived with her, she kind of threatened. Jason. She was like, "Well, I don't.
remember what the threat was about. If. you don't do this, AJ knows where you. live and he has his guns.". And he even told me, he was like, "I was. worried about that for a while, but now. I don't I'm not worried about it.". >> When they said he was shot, of course, you know, immediate immediately thought. of AJ. So, you know AJ has or you're under the. impression that AJ has access to guns. because of the comments that she made.
>> Yeah. >> Do you know if Devon has access to guns? >> AJ gave her a gun once. >> Okay. >> According to Rosa, the person. responsible for Jason's murder could be. a man known as AJ, Devon's new. boyfriend. Rosa claims AJ's name had. been used to threaten Jason numerous. times before, and the situation becomes. even more unsettling when she reveals. that AJ allegedly had direct access to. weapons, raising the possibility that he.
may work in law enforcement. And. although this is the first time. detectives hear his name, Rose's. statement immediately makes AJ someone. they need to look into. However, there's. one problem. All they have is a. nickname. And with so little information. to go on, figuring out his real identity. could prove to be extremely difficult. So with this in mind, investigators know. their new priority is speaking to Devon. But they have to proceed with caution.
If Devon is involved in Jason's murder. or knows anything about it, she could. simply refuse to speak with law. enforcement. And even if she has nothing. to do with it, the ongoing legal battle. over her son could still make her. hesitant to cooperate. So investigators. come up with a plan to make sure she has. no choice but to come to them herself. 4 hours after Jason's murder, an officer. arrives at the Montasauri daycare where. Jason and Devon's son is staying. The.
detective's plan is simple yet genius. They plan to retrieve the child and. bring him to the police department. Then. when Devon later looks for him, she. would have no choice but to come to the. station to pick him up, giving. investigators the opportunity to. question her about what had happened. However, as the officer gets to work, Devon suddenly calls the daycare asking. about her son. If she realizes police. are already there, she could show up. within minutes and complicate the. investigation. So, the officer needs to.
find a way to keep everything looking. completely normal and avoid tipping her. off to what detectives are planning. >> Hurry up. Make a decision. We got to. answer the phone. >> Just answer the phone. Ask her. questions. We're not here. >> She can come pick up the kid. >> Gateway Monasuri School. This is Ren. Can I help you? >> Speaker. No, he um Jason has not picked yet.
>> Okay. Is Okay. Well, I don't I don't. know what's happening because people. keep calling me and telling me that that. something has happened to Jason and if. he hasn't that makes me wonder if. something did actually happen. So, um I. don't know if I'm going to be like. >> I'm in college right now. Um so I cuz I. I wasn't I wasn't supposed to have him. say Jason's phone. Can you if Jason ends.
up showing up in the next 30 minutes, can you let me know because I need to. try to get a hold of him too. I don't. know what's happening. >> Sure. I absolutely will. Yep. >> Okay. Thank you. >> Sure. Okay. Bye. >> Bye. >> Okay. Thank you. Good job. >> And just like that, Devon seems. convinced that nothing is wrong. Investigators have not only completed. the first step of their plan to bring. Devon in for questioning, but they've. also bought themselves something just as.
important, time. And that matters. because they still have no concrete. evidence that could confirm or rule out. Devon or AJ's involvement in the murder. If they're going to question either of. them, investigators need something solid. they can confront them with. Luckily, it. won't take long for them to find exactly. that. As investigators carefully review the. available CCTV footage from the. neighborhood, they stumble upon. something interesting. They uncover a.
recording from just 30 minutes before. Jason was killed that could finally help. confirm their suspicions. But to make. sense of what they are seeing, investigators need to hear Devon's. version of events and compare it against. the footage. And thanks to the plan they. had already set in motion, they may not. have to wait long to get that. opportunity. Because with her son now at. the police department, Devon is about to. come looking for answers. >> Hi, I was transferred to you. I was told. that I needed to speak with you. I've.
been getting a lot of calls saying that. there may have been an accident with my. son's father. >> I have no idea what it is. If it's a. random event or um but yeah, I'd like to. talk to you about this. >> Can you can you tell me what's. happening? because everybody just keeps. saying there's an accident and my son is. supposed to be with him right now and he. is 5 years old. >> He's here and he's fine. Uh Rosa came to. pick him up um because of what what's. going on and.
>> Okay. So I don't why I don't understand. why nobody called me. >> Um we were actually trying to find Yeah, we're trying to find your contact. information. >> Well, let's figure out what's going on. Um and I'm. >> Yeah, I would love to, but what is. happening? Where is my son father? >> Well, that's what we need to talk about. and and uh talk about this in depth. Are. you able to come down to the police. department and in the meantime, I'll. find out who was out on scene. >> Oh, I mean, you have my son. Yes, of.
course, I'm coming down there. I am in. Fort Collins, so I am I am a little a. little bit away. It'll take me a little. bit of time to get there. Where where do. I need to go? >> So far, the detective strategy appears. to be working exactly as planned. Devon. is so focused on the fact that police. have taken her son to the station. instead of releasing him to her that she. seems to overlook the possibility that. this may have been exactly what. investigators wanted. But getting Devon. through the doors of the police. department is only the first challenge.
because detectives are about to discover. that getting her to actually cooperate. will be far more complicated. For now. though, they've done everything they. can. All that's left is to wait for one. of their suspects to come to them. >> Hi. >> Hi. >> Are you Devon? >> Yes. >> Hi, Deon. I'm Detective Jones. Hi. >> Thank you for coming down. We're going. to go right over here.
>> Where is my son? >> Um I I'm not sure where he is exactly, but we're going to come this way and. we'll see if we I need my I need my son. Somebody needs to tell me where he is. Okay. Well, and we'll find that out. right away. >> Just as detectives planned, Devon walks. straight into the station. Still focused. on getting her son back, she has no idea. what investigators uncovered in the. surveillance footage just hours earlier. And now with Devon finally in front of. them, detectives have their first real.
chance to hear her version of events. Compare it against the evidence they've. already uncovered and figure out what. role, if any, she played in Jason's. murder. >> I need him I need him to be here now. I. saw my father's car outside and I'm not. really sure why he's here. >> Your father's car? >> Yeah. >> Who's your dad? >> Um, his name is Raul. >> Raul? >> Yeah. >> Okay. Is he not allowed to see your. kiddo? >> He's a registered offender. So, he. better not be around my kid. >> Okay. >> I'm not sure who's where, but he's safe.
right now. We'll. >> Who is he with? >> He's going to be with an officer right. now. So, >> Okay. Cuz the previous officer that I. spoke to on the phone said that he was. with my sister and she doesn't have. custody of him either cuz she's. >> not his guardian. >> Okay. >> I don't Well, I don't know why he wasn't. here when I got here, but he needs I. need my son. I am worried about my son. He is 5 years old and I don't think any. of you have told him anything that's. happened. I don't even know what's. happened. >> All right.
Thank you. >> I got the door. >> Uh I mean I don't really care. I just I. want my son. Where is my son? >> I'll tell you everything. Come here. >> Um you're Devon? >> Yes. >> Am I pronouncing it right? >> Yes. I'm going to tell you um some bad. news. Um your exboyfriend is it? Ex-husband. >> It's just I just call him my son's dad. >> Son's dead. >> We were never married, but. >> he died today.
>> What? How? What happened? >> Stone shot him in the face. >> In the face. where? >> On his postal route. He was working today. He doesn't. >> Yep. Yeah, he was working and someone came up. and shot him. As Detective Desmond begins the. interview, he immediately shifts the.
conversation away from Devon's son and. towards Jason's murder. Part of the. reason is simple. Before revealing. anything they uncovered, he first wants. to see how Devon reacts to learning. Jason is dead. And her response is. unusual. Rather than showing an. immediate emotional reaction, Devon lets. out a long sigh before answering. A. response that immediately stands out. But whatever investigators make of that. reaction, they already have something. far more concrete because Desmond is.
about to confront Devon with the CCTV. evidence that pulled her directly into. investigators radar. >> Let's go back a little bit so I can I. can see who you are and see whether or. not I can release a child to you. Um, does uh anyone have it up for your uh. what do you refer to him as? Do you just. refer to him as. >> I just literally say my son's father or. Jason? >> Jason. Does it surprise you that someone. would go up and shoot him? >> Yes. It surprises It surprises me a lot.
I don't. >> I didn't know, you know, I don't I don't. know anybody that would want to hurt. him. >> We have a lot of people on this case and. we wrote the case quite a bit. I don't. pretend to know everything that. happened, but there are some things that. are really kind of concerning me. Um, we. saw your car in the area of the crime. scene. Um, you said you're at work. today, but your scanner goes off before. the homicide and it turns back on well. after the homicide and they uh track.
your scanner that you use at work to. your boyfriend's house, AJ. Um, so. that's really kind of concerning. Oh. yeah. >> And we caught the uh shooting on one of. the Nest doorbell cameras from across. the street. Um so I'm really kind of concerned. I. know that you got served just the other. day with the child custody order and. you're a little upset about that. You. told AJ uh you told Devon in the past. that AJ knows where you live and that. he'll shoot you if he needs to.
>> I've told who? >> Jason heard that from you and then Jason. told Rose that and Rose told us that. I. you said that that I said that. I've. never said that. >> Why is your car the crime scene area? Why are you in that area in your car? Why are you turning off your scanning? >> I didn't turn off my scanner. My. >> No, you did. >> No, I didn't. >> Inspectors are here. >> Turn off my scanner. >> You uh or you didn't you didn't go with. the scanner? The scanner is at your. boyfriend's house or somewhere in that. area. In front of it or in a bush. somewhere in that area. It's stationary.
for like 3 hours or more. And uh it. should be mobile cuz you're working, but. it's at your boyfriend's house. And why. is your car in a crime scene area? >> I don't know why it would be on camera. that I my car was down there, but I. don't. >> listen. >> If I don't scan. >> packages. >> packages, then obviously I'm I'm not. doing that. But I I did stop and Right.
I did stop at his house for my lunch. break. Sort of. >> Denim, I think you're a good person, but. something's not right here. I think the. gig is out. There's something weird. going on here. Everything is pointing to. you being involved in this shooting. People don't go around just shooting. postal people cuz I think there's a lot. more than you're telling us. The video. of the shooter looks kind of like you. It's from a distance, but it looks like. your height and your build. That doesn't.
look like AJ's height and build. Doesn't. look like Castanada's height and build. Looks like your build with a black. hoodie. >> With Detective Desmond piling this many. suspicions onto Devon, most suspects. would eventually break. But Devon has. been listening closely, analyzing every. detail Desmond gives her. And while the. detective believes he's closing in, she's already spotted a weakness in his. own theory and is about to use his own. words against him. I was I read on the.
way here about a about what happened and. they said that a man shot him. >> That's what we originally thought. Yeah. Now we're thinking it could be you. We're thinking it could be maybe your. boyfriend. >> Thank you. That's not the That's not the. right answer. >> We're trying to get all this evidence. together and we're trying to put the. pieces together and I don't think you're. being truthful with me. I'm trying to. figure out if you did this or if someone. else did this. And my bet is you have.
someone else involved in this. Maybe a. friend. That's someone who knows this. guy. And you know him very well. And you. know the people who know him very well. >> I don't know the people that know him. >> You know AJ, you know Castanada. >> They don't know him. >> Your car was there. Okay. Your car was. there. So tell me someone borrowed your. car. >> I don't. I was at work on my route which. is not close to the Pope. Not super. close to the post office. >> Why is your car in Longmont when your.
scanner is. >> I don't I don't know. I am on my route. working, but it sounds like why that's. so concerning to me. >> Yes, I do understand that. >> Borrow your car. Help me out here. I. don't know, but I. it seems like with all of these things. that you're going to be doing that I. need to have a lawyer or ask for a. lawyer. >> With Devon invoking her right to a. lawyer, Detective Desmond is forced to. back off and that creates a serious.
problem. Desmond has already revealed. most of the evidence investigators have. against Devon, but he never got her full. account of where she was or what she was. doing around the time Jason was killed. That account could become incredibly. important because every detail Devon. gives investigators can later be. compared against the surveillance. footage, scanner data, and phone records. they're still collecting. So, police. changed their approach. They bring in. the US postal inspector, who's already. assisting with the case, to speak with. Devon, giving investigators another.
opportunity to get her version of. events. If they can't get Devon talking. now, detectives may lose their best. chance to get a fixed version of events. they can later compare against the. evidence. >> All right. All right. We're going to get. this going here. >> Hey, De introduce you to uh someone. >> I just arrived. I'm a US postal. inspector. So, my name's Ken. So, I know. you worked for the post office and I. worked for the post office. >> Mhm. >> So, because this is kind of postal. related and you were working today, I.
wanted to chitchat with you about kind. of what happened and some of your. activities today. Okay. Understand you. may have been kind of done talking with. the detective, but I wouldn't mind. talking to you as an inspector to find. out what's going on and what happened. today. So, tell me tell me about your. day. So, you started scanning packages, you started your route, and then what. happened? My. guy AJ, he lives on that route. Like I. usually it I'm there around.
noon. So I think I was a little bit. ahead of the schedule. So I was able to. stop and I was happy that I would be. able to take a little bit more time to. take a lunch and spend some time with. him. So. >> what did you guys do? Just have lunch? And then we just ate and talked and. argued. >> Okay. What happened after that? >> Um, we argued for a while and then he. got angry and left and I.
stayed in my truck and I just. >> I was very upset. So, >> I was crying and I was in my truck and. waited for a while until I was able to. to calm down. M when he left, where did. he go? >> I don't know. >> Okay. >> Fortunately for investigators, Devon. agrees to talk. But whether that's. actually good for the investigation. remains to be seen. Because Devon has.
already heard almost everything. detectives have against her, they have. to consider the possibility that she. could shape her account around what she. already knows. Even so, investigators. have developed enough evidence to seize. Devon's clothing for gunshot residue. testing, confiscate her phone and black. Nissan, and ultimately arrest her on. suspicion of involvement in Jason's. murder. But the investigation is still. far from over. Devon has repeatedly. pointed detectives towards her new. boyfriend, AJ, claiming she was at his. house shortly before the murder and that.
after the two argued, AJ angrily drove. away. And thanks to this interview, investigators finally learn who AJ. really is. Andrew James Richie. He's 34. years old and lives roughly 30 mi away. from where Jason was killed. When. detectives look him up, one detail. immediately makes Rosa's earlier. statements far more significant. AJ. works as a federal correctional officer. Later that night, investigators head to. AJ's home to interview him. And although. they don't know it yet, AJ is eventually.
going to help them uncover not only who. shot Jason, but a much larger murder. plot in which Jason may have only been. the first target. >> How are you? Good. >> Are you AJ? >> Yeah. >> AJ, my name is Inspector Chris Lucas. I'm a federal agent. Uh we we just want. to talk to you a little bit um about a. lady by the name of Devon Devon. >> Okay. >> Shriner. >> Do you know her? >> Yeah. >> How do you know her? She's a friend. >> She's a friend. >> Yeah. She definitely made it pretty.
clear that she liked me more than I. liked her. >> Okay. >> And I'm married, so. >> uh we we still talk. >> Okay. >> Um we talked today. I have a pretty good. idea what this is about cuz. >> When did when did you talk to her? >> Uh apparently when she was driving to. the police station, >> but she didn't stop by and talk to you. or. >> We talked briefly today. It wasn't a. good conversation. and I told her that I. wasn't happy. Um, I didn't want her. here.
>> Okay. So, she was here or that was on. the she was here. What time was she. here? >> Um, uh, 11 something to probably about 12:15. >> You know, the timeline's important to. us. >> So, she was here around 11:00 and she. stayed till 12:15. >> Yeah. >> Could it have been later than that? >> Cuz I ended up leaving. We were Well, I. was mad. She was almost in tears cuz I. told her, "I don't want her on my. family. I don't want to do this. >> Sure. >> I don't want anything to do with her.".
>> So around Go ahead. I'm sorry. >> So she was upset and so I left uh and. went to Hooters and ate with some. friends. >> Okay. >> And I don't She went back up. Well, >> when you left. >> and I got there probably it was probably. about 12:30. >> at Hooters. >> Yeah. >> AJ seems to back Devon up. He confirms. that she came to his house in her postal. truck, claims they argued, and that he. left around 12:15 to meet friends at. Hooters while Devon stayed behind upset. But there's already a problem. Just.
minutes earlier, AJ had claimed he. hadn't seen Devon at all that day. And. by giving detectives such a specific. timeline, AJ has now handed them. something they can test against the. phone records, GPS data, and. surveillance footage. 6 days later, detectives arrive at AJ's. workplace. In that time, they've tracked. his phone, compared his story against. Devons, and reconstructed his movements. on the morning of the murder. And now.
they know his account is filled with. contradictions. More importantly, investigators have uncovered evidence. suggesting Jason may not have been the. only intended victim that day. And when. AJ sits down for a second interview, detectives are finally ready to show him. exactly how much of his story they've. already disproven. >> Uh, so first off, I know that we're at. your place of work. Uh, so I imagine. that they called you down here, so you. probably don't exactly feel like you. have a choice in being in the stream. right now since your bosses are all.
outside the door. >> Correct. >> So before we talk, before I ask you any. questions, then why don't you go and. have a seat? I'll we'll go through this. first part. Um, let me ask you this. Do. you have any weapons on you? any knives? I got nothing like that. Okay. You've. already indicated that you don't want to. talk to us about a couple of things. here. All right. So, I'm going to show. you a few things and see if you want to. talk about at all. Okay. Okay. You have. any idea what that picture is right. there? Looks like GPS. So, those are phone signals coming from.
your phone down in the Longmont area in. the same neighborhood as the shooting. with location information for the. mailman who was shot that morning. All. right. So, we know that you were in Longmont. that morning. And I'm not asking that. because of you. I'm just asking that to. further verify whether or not you had. any idea where Devon was at that time. You've already told me that you weren't. with Devon at 12:15 like you had. previously told us. All right. So, the. reason I'm showing you this is because. we can show that you weren't with Devon.
and you can't obviously verify where she. was, >> right? >> What else would you want to show? >> You got nothing to say about this. >> That's off your phone 2 days before this. happened. Can you explain that? >> You're a smart guy. I think you know. where we're going with this. >> Yeah, I can. So, if you want to give us. answers, now is the time to give them to. us. >> The picture AJ is looking at is one of.
the strongest pieces of evidence. detectives have uncovered in the case so. far. It was sent from Devon to AJ just a. few days before the murder, showing her. in the exact same clothes Jason's killer. was later recorded wearing at the scene. At this point, detectives have little. doubt that Devon was the one who killed. Jason. But there's still one equally. important question to answer. Was Devon. acting alone or was AJ her accomplice?
And as AJ begins explaining what. happened, detectives are about to learn. that Jason's murder was only one part of. something far more disturbing. >> You only get a couple opportunities to. give us explanations for what's going. on. >> We're trying to find the truth. So, her and I were talking in the. morning when I dropped her off at my. house, and I didn't necessarily think. too much of it. After she had gotten to.
work or on her way to work, she had. called me and told me that. she had decided that that was what she. thought needed to happen. And she had. told me that she had thought about doing. this before. Actually, three days prior. to that, she told me that she was going. to do this and I talked her out of it. and that was the truth. >> So, explain this picture to me. Explain. this picture right here in the middle. >> What's What's the conversation around. that?
>> So, that was the 3 days prior when she. told me that she was going to go over. there in the middle of the night. and I told her I told her not to. Originally, her plan was she was going. to take out Jason, Rosa, and herself, and. I begged her not to. She has talked. about his route cuz she knows the long. routes. So, I went out there, I knew his route. number. Um, I found him and I continued.
to stay on the phone with her to try to. tell her to try to talk her out of it. At that point in time, I stopped over at. his truck and I told him that he should. watch out for her because I think she's. planning on doing something. He just. looked at me and goes, "What?" And I was. like, "Devon." I said, "She's unstable. right now and I think that she's doing. something. stupid." And he said, "I'm not scared of. that." And I said, "Okay." And I left.
>> AJ claims he was only trying to stop. Devon from hurting Rosa or Jason. even. going as far as hiding Jason's truck and. warning him himself. But what AJ doesn't. realize is the detectives aren't buying. his story. And they already believe his. connection to Jason's murder runs far. deeper than he's willing to admit. >> I'm just trying to find stuff that's. going to help you at this point cuz you. understand you're telling me that, but I. don't have evidence of that. Does that. make sense? >> Right.
>> Why don't So, you know, we have your. phone got your phone records. We have. her phone records. Why don't if this has. happened multiple times where she said. that she's going to do this or she needs. to do this. Why don't we see any text of. you telling her not to do this? If. you've begged and pleaded for her not to. so many times, >> there's no documentation of you actually. trying to calm her down from going to. kill him. Even though this has happened. multiple times, >> she never told me on text that she was. going to do. Just talking.
>> You didn't tell anyone. >> You did think she was going to do it. You went down there to warn him, >> right? >> You went down there not just to warn. him. You went down there and you waited. if what you're telling me is true. If. I'm supposed to believe what you're. telling me is true. You're saying that. you went all the way you believed it so. much to the extent that you went all the. way down to Longmont. after you spent the night with her to go. down there and sit and follow a mail. truck around for 2 or 3 hours. That's. how much you believed it. And you didn't.
tell anyone else? That's what I'm. supposed to believe. Where did the gun come from? >> I have no idea. I assumed it happened. So I. >> I don't know. >> So what if I told you there are people. that said that even though you and Jason. didn't have a lot of contact together, they from their understanding there's. tension between you and Jason. specifically because of the situation. with them. We said that they feel very. personally that you specifically had it.
out for Jason. >> How and why? What's the motive there? What do I see in the manifest? >> He was with the girl that you're. apparently with. >> It's not with. >> They have a kid together. They spent. time together. >> Don't spend time together, but I could. care less. >> Were you scouting out that area for her. to come down? >> She already knew his route. H. >> She already knew his route. She was at. his cast. >> That wasn't my question prior to that. >> That wasn't my question. No, I was not. What? I thought she. >> Why did you go down there to follow him.
around if you didn't think that's what. she was going to do? >> Because I wanted to stop her if she came. out there. >> So, you did think she was go down there? >> I didn't discuss with her about going. and killing somebody. I'm trying to. talk. >> But you said she talked about that. before. You said that you had to talk. her down from that on more than one. occasion. That was the first thing you. told me. >> All right, you're under arrest. Go ahead. and stand up. Place your hands behind. your back. Is it possible to do that out. out in the parking lot? >> No. No. Stand up for me.
>> As the interrogation wraps up, AJ. refuses to reveal anything more about. his involvement, insisting that he had. only followed Jason in an attempt to. prevent the shooting. But detectives. know that tracking Jason's postal route. for nearly 3 hours while remaining in. constant contact with Devon had to mean. far more than that. So AJ is placed. under arrest for his role in the murder. of Jason Schaefer. And as investigators. continue examining the pair's phones, the case against him becomes even more.
disturbing. Hidden among their messages are. conversations dating back months before. the shooting in which AJ encourages. Devon's violent thoughts towards Jason. and Rosa. In one message, he tells her. she could simply kill them both and even. suggests making it appear as though they. had killed each other. Combined with. their nearly 3-hour call on the morning. of the murder, AJ's movements along. Jason's route, and the false alibi they. had attempted to create, detectives now.
have enough to show that AJ was not. trying to stop the attack. He had helped. Devon locate Jason and prepare for it. Both AJ and Devon would ultimately be. charged with first-degree murder after. deliberation. AJ was prosecuted under. Colorado's Complicity Law, meaning he. faced the same murder charge as Devon. despite never firing the gun himself. In. March 2023, Devon was found guilty and. sentenced to life in prison without.
parole. 6 months later, AJ was convicted. of the same charge and received the same. sentence, ensuring that neither of them. would ever be released.
