Trevor Ariza Picks Kobe Bryant Over LeBron James & Why Chris Paul Won't Win A Ring With The Warriors

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five books on the NFL only on draft King. sports book with code Shannon the crown. is yours hello welcome to another. edition of Club Shay I am your host. Shannon sharp I'm also the proi of Club. Shay and the guy that's stopping by for. conversation and a drink a drink today. is an 18 time is 18year NBA vet he's a. champion of the 2009 Lakers he's top 30. all time in steals one of the original 3. andd Guys a UCLA Alum a part of the 2004. pack 10 all freshman team.

2003 Mr California basketball California. high school state champion he's La. through and through Trevor re TR peace. what's up bro thanks for joining us. appreciate it how you being man man I've. been chilling man chilling so a guy that. plays 18 years in in the NBA obviously. you used to having a schedule and if I'm. not mistaken this probably your first. year out so what does an 18-year veteran. do now to fill the time that he normally. would be doing playing basketball man. that's crazy because as I was getting. close closer and closer and closer to.

the end of my career that's what my. friends that had retired you know years. PRI prior to me was telling me like you. get a lot of free time so um I had kind. of a guide to to learn how to you know. manage my time right so spending more. time with my children I was able to do. that um and I have a couple of other. like projects that I was able to to. invest my time into so you know going. back and forth to the islands um and. putting the majority of my time with my.

three children has been uh where most of. my time is going to do you miss it do I. miss it n not. really I don't really miss it because. you know every day I'm with my son and. he's he's in the gym a lot so right I I. don't have the the like I'm not like. starving to go back out there on the. court and go play was because like as. you started to get older your body kind. of started to break down you started to. get injuries and when you start to get. injured it's hard to sum it up because.

you spend more time rehabbing than you. do training and what you want to do is. that you know the time is nearing the. end you just want to play basketball and. you're not playing you're in the. training room or you getting surgeries. or you doing all of this did that start. to wear on you mentally uh mentally um. yeah I think I had a bone spur in my in. my right foot and just trying to get. back into the groove being like the age. that I was at it wasn't comfortable it. was it was agony mean it was it wasn't.

fun no more so um My Mind Is Telling Me. I can do certain things but my body. isn't allowing me to do the responding. that's that's when I knew it was like. all right you know it's time to go sit. down save some legs for for uh for for. your jit yeah save some legs for your. jets so you mentioned you had a son and. he's F and I see where he's following in. your footsteps uh has offers from UCLA. USC. Washington how tall is he and how good.

is he um he's 6'8 right now wow so we. around the same height and how good he. is he has um unbelievable Talent he's. Ultra Ultra Ultra talented um he bouncy. he's pretty bouncy he's getting more. athletic as he as he gets uh as he gets. in the weight room a little bit more. he's still young really young he's still. only 15 years old so you know he's um. he's learning how to uh to to work on. his game he's learning how to love or.

fall in love with the process of of the. things that you might not like to do. when you know you're pursuing a dream. when when you were playing how locked in. was he to what you were doing and he's. like did you think that like you know. what you might want to follow what Dad. does or do you just like okay I'mma let. him choose whatever he wants to do I'm. just going to support him either way. yeah no that that's never been my thing. to to push anybody to do anything they. kind of got to want to do it for. themselves because to play or to do.

something at an extremely high level. can't nobody do that for you you got to. want to do that on your own so I kind of. just allow him to you know play with it. a little bit until he came to me and was. like yo Dad this is serious you know I. really really really want to do this and. then you know with the experience that I. have uh I was able to kind of show him. some of the steps that he needs to take. and how hard it actually was going to be. and the sacrifices that you was going to. have to give up to to achieve the things. that you want mhm so so you and I were.

talking early off cam uh uh camera and. you said like where Sofi was that's. where you used to play football yeah so. obviously you play football you play. basketball has he done anything other. than play basketball oh yeah he played. football at the same park okay wow yeah. he played baseball um he he's he's a. really good athlete smart kid he does he. could do a little bit of everything so. you one of these D that believe that a. child should be do multiple things. instead of just specializing in one. thing because we see a lot of kids all. they do is play play football all they.

do is play basketball all they do is. play baseball you believe it it playing. multiple Sports make the kid more. well-rounded oh yeah it definitely does. I was a a kid that played multiple. Sports my favorite sport coming up was. football you know I I I just love the. contact I like to hit I like to to score. touchdowns and all that stuff but I end. up out growing it I got too tall I. thought and and my. frame get my frame didn't allow for to.

continue down that path so you know more. Sports was good you said he's 15 68. about your same height a game of. one-onone we play into a 11 who win it. I'm going kick his. ass you can't let it beat y Tre n hell. no that's out so at 15 let's go back you. at 15 your son at 15 who's better at. this age he has more skill for sure. right but cuz he had someone teaching. him as opposed to you I just I just.

think as time goes on you evolve yeah. right and when I was coming up you know. this the game or the skill was. completely different you had to actually. be a dog right and um I feel like that's. where I'm going to kick his ass on I'm. I'm I'm a dog his. ass so because you were a three and D. guy you a guy that can shoot the three. but you're mainly known for your. defensive uh prowess so how what are you. trying stealing your son because a lot.

of these kids I see now they focusing on. the offensive end cuz that's where you. get the glory that's where you get the. Limelight so are you trying to like look. son you got to play both ends of the. Court you just can't yeah well he's he's. a competitor on his own you know he. don't really like to lose um so anytime. he has a challenge or if he is playing. against uh another one of the top. players he takes that challenge on his. own right it's not even something that. you know I got to instill in him he he. has that on his own that's natural that. comes natural to him you said your son.

is you know we talked about Evolution. what's the biggest difference that you. see with kids in the game of basketball. today as when you were that same age in. the game of. basketball uh again there it's so the. era is more social you know it's it's. social but it's not social right and. what I mean by that is internet social. instead of like personal social yes so. like they people texting and not. talk right so you miss that kind of you.

know con connection going outside and. playing with the homies all day riding. your bike to the park or riding your. bike to you know whatever school that's. close to get to the. gym they not really getting that you. know we driving them everywhere they in. the gym they got trainers you know they. doing it's more like a business than it. was just you know for the love right and. that's the biggest difference I'm look. looking at you and uh your son played. against LeBron's son bronnie. um Gilbert Arena son masterp son you uh.

were an ex-professional athlete what. what how do you how do you tell your son. how to approach it when he's playing. against other celebrity. kids I don't think it's a difference man. you treat everybody the same you treat. people with respect but you still got to. try to break their [ __ ] neck on the. court I mean it's that's what it is it's. competition and you want to impose your. will on the next player like you may be. cool y'all might be like friendly or.

friends or whatever the case may be but. on the court it's no friends right. how how strange is it to see your son. playing against LeBron James Jor. considering you played against LeBron. James Senor uh it it it's it's crazy. it's really full circle you know and. that's the beauty about sports and like. you know having Offspring you get to uh. actually watch them it's almost like. playing a video game so the things that. you may have done then you can kind of.

like you know say hey yo look do it try. to do it this way or or think about it. like this so you get a second chance at. uh reliving U moments in this type of. space right here right. so what type of parent are you are you. kind of like you know I I think now in. the social media area we get uh era we. get Lavar ball or although there was no. social media are you more like Dale. Curry cuz Dale just sit back fold his. arm watch Step watch his son watch do do.

what they do bar was telling you me. mellow like this Jello like this zo like. this all my boys like this they go to. one team guaranteed Championship. multiple what what type what type of. what type of dad is Trevor Reza the type. of dad that I am is the only person that. is responsible for the success is him. right I don't have to go out and brag to. a whole bunch of [ __ ] I'm not. on that so like everything that I try to.

do is I try to instill in my son what he. has to do so it's not going to be like. you know I'm not going. to project my like what I see in him on. people he's going to have to do that on. his own with his game you know I'm just. going to feed it to him that's that's. the type of parent I am why did you. think at 15 years of age he needed an. nio. deal uh that's that's kind. of how can I say this.

uh he's young he's really. young. and to. me. um it's a bit early mhm but in this day. and age you know you never really you. never really could like say what's too. early and what's not early um the good. thing for him is you know he gets an. opportunity to see what it is see what. he likes see what he don't like and uh. he's so young that he can still make.

decisions to to do whatever he wants to. do how. receptive is he to your coaching because. a lot of times you still his dad yeah. you're an ex basketball player but you. his dad and it seems sometimes I know. when I had my son he seemed to be a. little bit more receptive to somebody. else telling him what he needed to do as. opposed to me because he could not see. all he saw was his dad was trying to. tell him something and if somebody else. told him the same thing like oh okay I. get it now no it's the same thing.

that's Universal man I don't think that. changes for anybody but um the one thing. that I do notice is that when he sees. like what I do tell him he comes back to. me and like all right Dad you was right. you was right about that Dad right and I. just look at him and I kind of laugh. laugh at him right I'm looking at. California basketball California cuz I. had I had hold I had on Demar de rozan. and I said well who you got California. basketball a New York basketball. basetball.

mhm who I got yeah I'm I'm homegrown bro. I'm I'm always going to be loyal to the. soil I don't know I'm looking that I'm. looking at okay Kareem they got I mean. New York got Kareem Michael Jordan Melo. Ron artez Dr J Stefon Marbury Lamar OD. you guys got Bill Walton Reggie Miller. Jason kid Ray Allen Gary pton Paul. Pierce kawhai clay Dame James Harden I. mean as far as volume y'all got them. Killers but B. K I think Kareem Kareem and Jordan Alone.

going to take out like 14 of you. guys so now it come down to Dr what. y'all GNA do with Melo and Dr J Man Melo. is tough Melo probably like up there in. like the three the top three in New York. huh but you know like on the whole I. think we just got way more Killers than. them. yeah let's talk about the Clipper. situation recently they acquired James. Harden so now you pair. James Harden with Russ who's play who.

Russ was playing extremely well and he's. been playing well since he got to the. Clippers last year you got kawhai you. got PG do you think they needed James. Harden and what's going on why hasn't it. been able to mesh so far uh so in. basketball or in team sports as you know. chemistry is the biggest thing that you. have to overcome right James didn't go. through training camp with them so he. didn't get a chance to like to even get.

acclimated to what they're doing um it's. going to take a while for them to figure. out what they're doing period you know. they've been going through injuries. throughout their Seasons with having PG. and and kawhai already so um hopefully. this year somewhere 20 games they'll get. a chance to mesh together and figure it. out does someone need to come off the. bench can all four of those guys. start. the um no they can't really. I mean that's just the reality of [ __ ].

it's not an allstar game you know so. what they got to figure out is how who. and what who's going to have the ball. right um who's going to play a role. right who's going to sacrifice and you. know well how hard is it because James. hardt has been an MVP Russell Westbrook. has been an MVP kawh Leonard is a. two-time Finals MVP Paul George has been. an all NBA player so you try to bring. all these personality together and like. you said Russ and James need the ball.

now who's going to have the ball late in. the ball game good thing I don't have to. worry about. that that's but that's the question that. they have to figure out as a team like. the for 10 games do I have the ball or. does James have the ball for 10 games do. Russ have the ball does kaai have the. ball does PG have the ball like how do. you figure that out right that's that's. kind of like I guess as a team who's. going to impose their will who's going. to be the the dominant player to be like.

nah let me see cuz I'm in a will us to. this but that don't seem like kawai's. personality now I could be wrong you've. played against him but when I look at. him from a distance he doesn't seem like. a guy that's going to call a team Mee. and says hey this is what needs to. effing happen he doesn't seem the guy. that's going to bring the bring the. huddle together and says guys look we're. going to run this right here you're. going to get me the ball right there and. I'm going to go make he doesn't strike. me I could be wrong like I said I'm just. looking at it from a distance he doesn't. strike me as that that seems more like a. Russ to say okay this is what we're.

going to do as opposed to anyone else. what do you know them you played against. them for. decade who is like that let me see um I. would have to say Russ probably is more. of like an alpha when I look at that. group but again that might not. necessarily be true um knowing Kawai I. know he's a he is a dog like in every. aspect of the word so um. they got to figure that [ __ ] out I'm.

just. happy happy you're not on the team. having to try to figure it out along. with them yeah for sure so when you. heard Harden says I'm not a system. player I'm the system I'm a system. considering that you're not going to be. the James Harden that was in Houston. because you got three other all stars. with you and you're not I don't believe. he's that same player because I think. some of his athleticism has waned and. like you said he didn't get a training. camp so he's not in the peak condition.

to be able to get by people Kawai ain't. going to let you kawhai ain't going to. stand around and let you be a the system. PG ain't gonna stand around and let you. be the system so how does James change. his way of thinking in order to make. this thing work uh well I think that's. up to them to them players if he's. coming in with that mentality it's up. for them to change it okay like if if. I'm going into a situation and I've been. the guy like my whole career and my. whole time right only way I'm changing.

it is somebody make me change it right. and if that's you know the stance he's. going to take it's up for that team to. figure out how they going to get him to. come into whatever they're doing to to. switch that up if not they going to have. a problem you know what you're the. perfect person I got you here you play. with James Harden in Houston yeah what's. he like in the locker room because we. hear these stories staying over late in. a city going to Vegas in off days. what's James Harden like James is what I.

guess what people don't know is James. will work his ass off like after. practice he's running Sprints um before. practice he's shooting he's getting his. treatment he's lifting weights after. games uh what he doing his personal life. and his personal business that's that's. up to him like nobody should give a [ __ ]. about that you cool with that so you. cool if he like off time heading to. Vegas or you know cuz you know you seem. like I mean from the videos now you like. I said that social media get you in. trouble but they put everything on.

social media he in the club he popping. bottles he got them Honeys around him is. that conducive for winning a. championship um because at the end of. the day for him that's the only thing. that's left to prove he's done proving. he one of the best players he's the top. 75 player where you want to rank him as. far as two guards obviously the two top. spots belong to Jordan and kovi so if. you want to say he's better than Wade a. lot of people going to fight you on that. say wade is the third best because Wade. got championships and ya ya y so but a. top whatever you want to say only thing.

left is a championship mhm can you win. should he like you know what guys I done. got this party in I'm gonna be able to. get that party in again let me go and. get this Championship let me focus on. this I'm going to give up the strip club. I mean I know that hard cuz you. know but you know I'm going give up some. of the like you said you told your son. he's got a sacrifice what's it worth to. you yeah um some people I guess some. vices work for people you you know and. trying to change a players game in the.

ninth inning that's not going to help. nobody right right so you know however. he decides to live his life when if if. it comes a time where he feels like he. wants to make a change that's on him. right and like everybody's going to have. an opinion so the idea for us as. athletes [ __ ] everybody else's opinion. on what I got to do as long as I'm doing. what I need to do and helping myself or. help for my team doing the things that.

I've been doing I can't really listen to. what anybody else have to say the peanut. gallery is always going to be that right. how difficult is it for a player to. change his offc court behavior when he's. had success doing it that way basically. his entire career it's going to be tough. It's hard to you got to get humbled in a. way right you know and a lot of the. times when people uh stumble across. things that humble them they start to. look for ways to change and fix things.

what I mean he goes to. Houston he had individual success and he. had some great players he had Chris Paul. he had Dwight Howard he had okay it. didn't work there well I want out for. whatever reason I don't know the reason. but he wanted out he goes to Brooklyn he. has KD he has Kyrie it doesn't work for. whatever reason I don't know the reasons. he goes to Philly he has arguably this I. think joic is the best player in. basketball let alone big I think he's.

the best player he probably he up joic. is one of the best but I feel like right. now Anthony Edwards is the best player. right now yeah Anthony on his team. Anthony Edwards a [ __ ]. dog you me tell he the best player on on. on the Timberwood yeah I agree that I. feel like he the best player in the. league right now he's my favorite player. in the league right now how about that. why why did it Why didn't it work at. those places for Jame think about what. KD is a top is a all 75 player Chris. Paul all all 75 player I think I believe.

for me personally I think thewi Howard. should been on on the 75th Anniversary. team Why didn't it work I mean it don't. work for everybody all the time a lot of. people don't win and the team that we. had in Houston was a really good [ __ ]. team right we just ran into the best. team of the decade at the time right you. know so you had him down 3-2 tra yeah. and then one of the top 75 players first. ballot Hall of Famers got hurt right you. know and you know it you we I don't know.

[ __ ] on the. money there was a situation when when. Chris Paul and James Harden they were in. Houston there was a timeout and Chris. was trying I guess Chris was trying to. tell him something and and James Harden. slapped his hand you were in so what. what's going through your mind when you. see that. happen what's going let me see I got to. think back to the play when was that do. you know was it in the playoffs yeah.

okay so probably in a playoff. situation um Chris is a communicator. through all things right James isn't. much of a communicator um so I think. with Chris being more of a communicator. and James more of a art I get it you. know let's move on I think um in a. situation like that it's just two differ. of of opinions on how [ __ ] should go how. was your interactions with Daryl muray.

Daryl uh Daryl is I guess a businessman. you know he's not a bad dude he's just. you know he is a businessman and he. going to do what's best for the business. at all times because if you think about. it he gave James Harden a Max when I'm. not so sure a lot of other teams would. have been willing to give a sixth man. the Max and gave up you know gave up you. know compensation to get him I don't. think he got the max when he when they.

when they got him well he got the max. for what he could get yeah yeah and so. now Darren Mar in Houston he builds. everything around James James is cooking. wins MVP y yada y going to Allstar he's. all NBA he's making a name for himself. people was like said he might be a. better scorer than Jordan he might be a. better score scorer than Kobe um he goes. to you know Philly you know he's like I. want him in Philly and they bring him to. Philly what happened how did it sour. between Daryl Mor and and and.

Harden uh that situation you know I. don't never really speak on other. people's situation like that so I don't. really know but what I do know is. getting the max he earned that right. however many times he got it he earned. that right um and I know for the time. that he was the MVP or scoring all the. points he earned the league and those. teams he played for a [ __ ] ton of money. and this is a business right so and as.

far as like the business aspect he. checked that box off when it comes to. doing what he needed to do um us as. competitors and athletes the thing that. he hasn't done is win a championship but. every great player don't win all the. time right so we got to kind of not. really I mean we can judge him on that. right but is it really really really. fair to judge an individual on if they. going to win a championship if it's a. team sport right. so my my my thing to you as you start to.

get older you realize that you have less. time mhm should he have G giv money back. to Philly [ __ ] no. what there's no such thing as giving. money back right no cuz they're not when. they take it from us when they find us. they don't give it back right so no you. see I and I think that might be the. crooks because you know hey if you take. less money we'll be able to get this. player but you taking money from a m a. a millionaire but a billionaire got it.

not even that it's not his job to fix or. work through the salary cap it's the. general manager and that franchise's job. to figure out the best way to work and. construct that team through the through. the salary cap and if you decide to give. a player to Max it's not his job to give. money back no i't G you no money n [ __ ]. no let me ask you this you've been a. part of culture we hear the term culture. or the heat culture the Patriot Way and. this and that being a part of a winning.

culture and a losing culture what's the. biggest difference habits um things that. people are going to accept your team. holding you accountable your teammates. holding you accountable that's number. one if your teammates don't hold you. accountable then you know you don't. really you're going to you're going to. be a bad organization if you don't have. no vets you're going to be a shitty. organization so why are teams so willing. to get rid of vets because I've heard a. lot of people and not not just. basketball but in football also the.

older guys that's trying to kind of. showing the younger guys how and how not. to do things so why are teams and. franchises so willing to move on from vs. and have oh we got eight guys that's. under the age of 20 probably because. they cheaper okay I mean it's a business. right at the end of the day and your. bottom line is what's important now this. is just my thought process it a it might. not be you know what it is but I would. think that's that's the reason whose. responsibility is it to create that.

culture is it the star player is it the. coach is it the general manager the. franchise whose responsibility is that I. think the responsibility is the. organizations LED through the coach. through your. vets that's I think the Peck and order. it should be in but I I definitely. believe that the fact that there's not a. lot of vets in the league anymore and. throughout whatever all sports I think.

that kind of helps bad teams stay bad. right how disciplined you know you hear. that now I don't believe any successful. per I don't believe you can be. successful without discipline fact which. requires you to do your very best when. no one else is watching so how hard is. it to be disciplined hold people. accountable while still having. fun uh being able to put everything in. the in the right place uh. compartmentalize. um understand there's a time and a place.

for everything when you when you uh. commit to something that's first and. foremost um you're going to have fun. doing what you're doing if you love what. you're doing it's going to be fun. playing basketball should be fun cuz. that's what you wanted to do your entire. life exactly so everything else is. extra you played with Kobe yeah one of. the most disciplined mofos rest his soul. one of the most disciplined the most. important thing was back basketball it. was no BS and if you were be if you were.

going to help Kobe win no Championship. if he saw you bro it drove him crazy. yeah he probably wouldn't talk to you if. he didn't feel like he was on the path. that he was on and you know I understand. that because like-minded people usually. connect you know so did you understand. it at the time or as you moved away from. it I understand I understood it before. the time right you know I um I come from. a winning program high school you know. my my friends people that I play high.

school basketball we held each other. accountable right and through holding. each other accountable we all you know. end up going division one so I. understood that uh from a young. age how was Kobe able to build a. championship locker room cuz I'm looking. you played with Harden you play with. Chris Paul you played with LeBron you. played with Co you played with a lot of. guys that's on that. what's the biggest difference between. Kobe and all the guys that I Nam what.

cuz everybody want to know okay what's. the difference between LeBron and Kobe. so let's let's go with just LeBron and. KOB what was the biggest difference. between them uh I think Kobe is more of. a I don't give a [ __ ] if you like it if. you like me this is how we doing it I. think braon kind of is. more conscious of uh like what's going. on you know he's more of you know he's. he's more more like he's cooler with.

more people than Kobe was Kobe don't. give a [ __ ] if you like him or. not that's just the truth he was just. that cold blooded Kobe come in like Hey. Y'all we we we working today y'all F. y'all yeah that's I don't care so when. and everybody tells the story like they. lose a game and Kobe like man take my. shoes off y'all sorry mother F don't. need to have my stuff on yeah no that's. I didn't I didn't experience that Kobe. right you know our team wasn't like that. team or the teams that he had where he. talked to them that way right you know.

we were you had a more veteran ball Club. because it was you and pal Kobe Andrew. Bron was kind of the young guy fish was. anduh fish was still there when I was I. was 22 at the time so I was a younger. player right um but my mentality never. was one of a younger player I always had. to I'm I have to go get it you got that. mentality yeah I had I'm I I'm on the. same thing y'all on so um my mentality. was a mentality was a bit different so. how was it in practice you you got to.

guard you know obviously you going. against Co you know he going to bring it. and you know you got to bring it because. he going to try to embarrass you and you. not trying to be embarrassed no. absolutely not and I think that's how we. start that's why our relationship was so. what it was. because I'm not I don't care who you are. I don't give a [ __ ] about none of that. I'm going to compete cuz I'm a. competitor and I want to beat you just. like how you want to beat me right and I. think he understood. that how was it becoming his teammate.

because you you guys competed each other. for a number of years he dropped 40 on. you you rookie my rookie. year I and you know what's crazy about. uh Larry Brown had this thing where. every player that whatever City we go to. right he was going to start you if. you're in your home City okay and he. started. me after probably sitting me like 10. game so yeah I wasn't ready for that one.

right yeah but you know he did uh did he. let you know about it who B Kobe nah he. never he n he didn't really on the court. he was he was [ __ ] destroying me yeah. of course but but I'm saying once you. came to the Lakers he like T you. remember that 40 piece I dropped he. dropped 40 on so many people that he. probably remember that. yeah his only thing was what are you. going to do to help us win were you on. the Lakers when Kobe demanded to trade. nah that's before my time that's before. your time yeah how different do you.

think Kobe Legacy would have been had he. been traded because I think the thing. that's so fascinating is that he played. 20 years with the same team right uh I. think it would have been a little bit. different just because I I mean I don't. know where he demanded a trade to um. seemed like he wanted to go to Chicago. Chicago yeah I don't think it would been. the same thing it would have been. different he he would have been in the. shadow of of Mike you know and I don't. think he's a person who. deserves a shadow right you know he's. his own shadow how how.

demanding was Kobe to win a ring without. Shaq I think he he he that's something. that he wanted to it drove him [ __ ]. sleepless nights I could probably say. that he wanted to prove that you know he. was who he thought he. was Lamar odm said that had you played. against the Celtics y'all would have.

beat. him I would I would like to agree with. him with. that so when when you lose CU I mean. that was the series and that you guys. had that that big they had that big lead. I think it was game three we was up 22. yeah yeah and then they came back uh and. I remember the thing that I remember Ray. Allen just getting to the can and just. reverse oh my God that that would that. took all the momentum out of uh staple. that yeah at the time so from that point.

on they just that that gave them the. utmost confidence and you know they took. the series after that but how how is it. how does a young player gain the respect. of the veteran players in the locker. room the work ethic the things that you. do every single day to prepare for your. opportunity like I broke my foot um. earlier in that season. and Kobe would meet me there at the gym. you know he wouldn't beat me there he.

would meet me there you know going. through my thing doing my [ __ ] so like. seeing that Time After Time After Time. After Time you know he understood that. my mission was the same as his mission. you know I'm a winner just like how how. he wants to or how he is and you know. when you see thing or people that are. like-minded you gravitate towards those. things and you know we are like-minded. people right did he ever say anything. vocally verbally about man look bro I.

got to get that Championship man Shaq. done went to Miami done got him got him. a chip he done got one without me and he. up there you know he done writing diss. tracks he talking I mean was he ever. verbal about that or you can just tell. the way he practiced the way he moved. that that was very very important. sometimes he would come in practice just. aggravated you know wouldn't say [ __ ] to. nobody and you can tell like in like his. demeanor that those things was tick. kicking him off you know like he wanted. it bad right he wanted it real bad and.

uh I'm not sure if it was a competition. between him and Shaq if it was I. wouldn't have known cuz he never like. spoke bad about about big fellow at all. but I know that his Drive was always to. be the best he probably you know that's. why he wore number 24 cuz he wanted to. be better yeah you know so cuz 8 to 24. really doesn't make any sense no sense. at. all so. yeah yeah so you had Phil Jackson what.

was playing for Phil. like um playing for PJ was dope because. it wasn't we had a system in place right. so it wasn't really like he had to come. up with like crazy schemes inside that. system he just had to be able to manage. personalities and I think that's where. he was the best at managing. personalities getting like huge. personalities to how do you do that come. together because you know Mike was Mike. and it's easy for Mike because there's.

nobody else on that team that know. Scotty is not thinking he's as good as. Mike Jordan and Ron har I don't know. about that Scotty Mike Scotty was. probably just as that's the and that's. the thing that like media I feel like. don't like point out you think Scotty. thought he was just as good as mik not. defensively not defensively hey we know. what we know what Scotty is but I'm. talking about score yeah I don't think I. don't think he I think he felt like. impact was just as important wow yeah. why wouldn't it be yeah I'm not saying.

that's not but I think when when I look. at Shaq and Kobe there are a there was a. point there's there the defining point. that Kobe say I'm just as good as this. motherf bro y'all y'all say whatever you. want to say and I understand what he is. but I'm just as good nobody is as. dominant as Shaq yeah they changed the. rules for. Shaq that's just what's what's. real but when you look at I mean how old. were you in Co Kobe Kobe got to the.

league of what about 96 or 96 he got in. 96 you came in so you came 11 so you saw. the maturation you saw the guy that. airball the ball in Utah and then you. see like hold. on are you sure dude 18 are you sure. he's 19 and then at at 20. 2122 22 he got his third Championship. his body changed he locked in to a. completely different level. yeah. he's he's after I guess to me he's the.

best player of ever wow yeah he is you. got Kobe over Mike that's just my. favorite player right but I mean I Mike. is in a completely different he's by. himself right um but if I had to say. Kobe is the best player ever when when. you when you said uh you you texted. him Kobe Le say you text Kobe a photo of. him shooting over three people and Kobe. says mean.

someone should have an easy put back if. I missed yeah he me that. like he he laugh but he was dead ass. serious cuz again like you said those. teams that he was on he probably felt. that you know they they could get the. putbacks right he felt like his his shot. was the best shot even if it was on. three or four people I mean how I mean. when you look. at when I look at the NBA now it's like. when Kobe came the Jordan shoe was the.

lit yeah now it seems to be the Kobe. shoe is the what the Jordan shoe used to. be to the NBA players today yeah am I. correcting that uh I think on the court. for sure yeah yeah absolutely Kobe. Kobe's shoe is you know the shoe to wear. and I believe it's probably that because. I feel like Jordan limit the type of. shoes that he let the players. wear if if he let players wear like the. Retros and all that then you know it.

might be a little bit even. but I mean Kobe Kobe shoes are more. comfortable yeah because he don't really. let him wear the like the Jordan he wear. he let him wear the Jordan line he don't. let him wear that old stuff the stuff. that he actually wore fact that's yeah. well he treding to sell the Jordan line. he ain't really trying to the Retro the. Retro the Nike thing they going to do. they going to do that they going to sell. regardless I need y'all to get some of. these these Jason Tatum and this this. other stuff exactly November is here and. we're in the heart of football season. basketball and hockey are just getting.

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your second St because now you play with. Braun ad Russ Melo Austin Reeves Dwight. I mean what was that second St with the. Lakers like and how different was it. from the first St um the first time I. was there uh I was you know really young. I was 22 right. 23 and I was I had something to prove. right like coming in at my 18th season.

you know I've done all the proven that I. can prove and my role was completely. different at that time so you know it's. it's two different. situations um the organization has. always been great always was great to me. um but you know the roles or you know. what I was asked to do was completely. different at the two different. times Why didn't it work [ __ ]. old you got all players that are like.

you know vet super vet you know super. super vet and you're asking players to. do things at at a right age that they. didn't do in their younger age you're. not you can't ask melow to go dive on. the floor for a for a loose ball or or. you know. Chase Anthony Edwards around for 40. minutes you he just not you you're not. going to get that out of him you know. what I mean so you're not going to ask. Dwight to come off the bench and only. play 15 minutes when in his mind he.

feels like he can contribute more that's. that's that's just a tough thing to do. you're not getting BR off the court. that's never going to happen right uh so. when you have things like that and all. those elements. um in that form it's hard to win hard to. win Russ Russ's dream was to come back. and play for the purple and gold mhm OKC. Houston Washington that was great the. triple doubl the first guy to average of.

triple double since Oscar he won an MVP. in OKC they had an okay they had a. decent season in Houston you know ended. up going to the bubble you know it. happened he goes to Washington average. two more triple doubles he a. killer he comes to La so much fanfare. you got Braun you got ad Russ MH Why. didn't it R work with those guys and the. criticism ISM was it unfair the amount. of criticism that Russ received. absolutely Russ every single night he.

put his hard hat on he does everything. that you ask of him every single time. they were asking him to go play in the. dunker spot he was doing that. [ __ ] so but that's not that's not that's. not his game so like I said when you put. anybody in a situation where you have. Braun on the team he's not coming off. the ride right so Russ is a point guard. he plays he needs the ball so why did.

they so why make that move when you know. Bron needs the ball Russ knows that he. needs the ball so there's only one yeah. this ain't pool where there a bunch of. balls on the table basketball you got. one that's see that's that's I'm glad I. don't have that issue and I don't got to. worry about that I constructing the team. or putting the team together right I. never had that problem if you were. general manager would you like would you. have could put this team. together uh it depends on why if it's to.

sell tickets yeah yeah no you got to win. that didn't tell no tickets you at the. lake CU you had to win a championship. you know what's you play for the purple. leag go you know what it's about and you. know how those fans are and the fans. don't care the one thing being in La. what I've noticed the fans don't give a. damn what you did at another. organization what you going to do for us. yeah you want MVP over there fine you. won championships over there fine now. what you going to do for the purpling go. what did Russ average when he was there. I think what 187 and seven what's wrong.

with that that's that's that's Allstar. numbers anywhere else right that's not. that people are people are getting a Max. off that right so n you can hit the CR. but that's not that's not what they. expect you know what expectations are. yeah you can't expect braon to average. 277 and seven and Russ average a what. triple double triple double and a Aver 6. 12 that's then Melo averag 18 s and.

whatever that's unrealistic that's like. playing in the video game right so. somebody should have like been willing. to like alter he and he was and he did. he and he got all the criticism for it. you know his game hasn't changed. throughout his. career Little Wayne recently said and uh. that in order the Lakers need to trade. Anthony Davis they to win a champion. ship and I guess ad must have heard it. got the braids out got the fro going and.

he been liing folk up yeah I mean. sometimes it takes for somebody like. that or people that you admire to like. get in your [ __ ] for you to understand. that you know you got to be as hungry as. you need to be to for it to work um ad. is a special special special player and. sometimes um he don't always show that. he's special uh but this year he been he.

been doing what he's supposed to do so. far I agree with you because I sometimes. I don't think ad realize just how. special he is because I remember what he. did to yic in the bubble I remember what. he I've seen him go get 50 points. against Joel embiid I get 40 points. against Giannis and then the next night. he come give me 11 and see ad got upset. when Laker fans and a lot of analysts. criticize him they say Ad how you get. somebody one Rebound in the first half. and no points in the second half and. think you're supposed to escape.

criticism under what planet under What. scenario a player ad was top 7 damn now. that I think about it ad was top 75. right yeah and you give us one Rebound. in the first half and zero points in the. second half and you supposed to say oh. man that's that's all right man it's not. good enough it's unacceptable period. there's no questions about that it's. unacceptable on no Planet should ad ever. have one rebound and there no points.

it's just. unacceptable LeBron James is the oldest. current oldest player in the. NBA I. mean what I mean t you play I mean one. B Kobe 1 a one. B how how is he able to play at this. level for such a long we we've seen guys. have Peaks yeah but they Peak and this. dude the dude got here and stayed there.

I mean he's like a plane he got to a. comfortable cruising altitude and stayed. there fact he he's like I mean I used to. have this joke with my friends that he. was like he was created in the lab he. not even he's not a real. person so that's. how I. mean when you're like obviously you. guarded him a number of years yeah. what was your mindset what are you. trying to what are you trying to do how.

uncomfortable are you trying to what are. you trying to take away just him getting. in the paint him getting downhill cuz if. he's in the paint he's disrupting. everything cuz he he finish at the. Finish he could pass he's strong as a. [ __ ] so he has all the tools you. know the only thing that you can. possibly say is that his jumper is. streaky right and you want to keep him. off the pain. right when you played against him in.

high school yeah in your wildest. imagination even though he they had had. him on Sports Illustrated and chosen one. did you think he'd be this. good uh I didn't I I thought he would be. this good I just didn't know how fast. that was going to happen you could you. you just see it like some players are. just completely different like he's. built like you and he run and he get up. in down the court like like TJ Ford did. you know TJ Ford is a small quick guard.

right so. like you just see. it what's the what's. the forget on the court because I think. in order for the game is what you do off. the court yeah so from a practice. standpoint from a training standpoint. what are some of the similarities and. some of the difference that you noticed. that Kobe did and Braun did it's the. work for sure like the amount of work. that they put in is the same um br will.

be doing work that you don't even know. like at home or like offsite and then. he'll still be at the gym before. everybody on the court then he'll be in. the training room getting his body right. then he'll be getting jumpers up after. the game then he I mean after practice. then he'll be back in the the training. room or in the right room stretching so. you know the amount of work that he puts. in to the game is you know pretty much. similar the person is just different. they're different yeah what's the.

biggest differences Bron is more Bron is. like more personable yeah yeah he he he. he's definitely more of a KOB give you. the middle finger yeah. he's he's a he's what age do you think. LeBron's going to retire because har is. he's he's six weeks away from being 39. years of age and he's still playing at. an unbelievable level we saw him the. other night go get 38 12 and what 6. seven uh against Phoenix and we've seen. him have these monster games and he can.

still go off at any moment at what age. do you think that it starts to. noticeably dissipate I I don't think. he's still I don't think he's as. athletic I think he can do some of the. things just not for as long a time a. period as he can do it but what age do. you think like 41 42 I think he could do. it for as long as he want to do it and. the way he takes care of his body and. the mentality that he has. he probably could play till he's. probably 45 if he wanted to yeah real.

well if he played the 45 the record. ain't going to never be broken it won't. he I don't think I don't think the. things that he's done is nobody GNA. catch that I don't think nobody's going. to catch the points that he's going to. score wow yes how long did it take for. him to break how long did Kareem record. last Kareem had the record for almost 40. years Kareem broke the record uh in. Vegas cuz back then you know they played. I mean they was trying to grow the. league yeah and so he broke it against. Utah if I'm not mistaken at Thomas and. Ma in.

84 LeBron broke it in what March of. March March or April of 23 so almost 40. years and then it's still going and he's. still playing and he's still scoring a. gang of points nobody going to catch. that you play and the funny thing is not. only did you know you guys were you know. played against each other in the NBA but. you played against each other in high. school and your uncle said that Bri was. overrated and I guess somebody told him.

I don't know about that he just gave you. 52 for no reason I don't know about that. I I mean he's a [ __ ] good. player TR you can't let him get a 50. piece on you I mean he I didn't let him. [ __ ] you think I'm G let anybody do that. yeah he that's what he did you know he. was that special so you know you can't. take nothing away from what he did so. before you you I mean obviously if that. there I mean there start to be social. media but it's not like it is now you. heard about it right and what are you.

thinking it can't be that good the way. y'all talking about oh boy he should be. in the NBA right now at 15 16 he can't. be that good and then you see him and. you see him as a 15 16 year old you like. hold on man let me see his birth. certificate cuz there ain't no way. somebody be up like that in 15 16 n you. just again that when you playing against. Elite Talent you see Elite things and he. just was the most special out of special. players he was like the best.

X-Men for. real so. yeah Kevin Durant he said at some point. y'all non-athletes going to realize that. friends compete harder against one. another and LeBron agreed agre do you. agree 100% I because like it's just like. having a brother you're going to try to. beat your brother at everything cuz I. don't never want you to have brag I'm. never going to say that you did this to. me so yeah you're going to compete. harder against your friends than you're. going to compete why do the older guys.

seem to forget that every time magic and. isaah used to play each other they would. you know give each other a kiss on the. cheek but magic took his ass out the Air. Jordan and Barkley were very cool but. they make it seem like they was fighting. you know everything with bad boy Pistons. and the Celtics or bad boy pistol in the. pool they try to they seem to forgot. that you know we had TVs we saw it yeah. I think um it's. just then they they I feel like now they.

help each other up more um they are. bigging each other up more which is not. really a bad thing but like in terms of. competing you kind of don't want to let. you know your right hand know what yeah. what the left hand is doing how has AA. shaped that because you played against. LeBron you know him these guys now. they've been playing against each other. since they're 10 so how do I develop a. rival how do develop a dislike or a. hatred versus the NB those old guys they.

see each other when no you traveling. around like this you saw each other at. the McDonald's All-American game that. was probably the only time that you. really saw each other and so you went to. one college I mean if you went to Duke. North Carolina obviously you develop or. I don't know who you're you're right. what USC yeah okay we get that but these. kids now a lot of them play on the same. high school team or the same AA team so. how do I develop how do does zion and. John Morant who played on the same aou. team develop a rival against each other.

try to kick each other's ass every time. they step on the court that's it it. don't it don't I mean it don't stop like. you don't have to not be cool with them. right you know but when you in between. those lines you know you it's I'm going. to [ __ ] eat all your. food so what are your thoughts on super. teams uh what's the super. team uh I mean they've always been super. teams yeah but I mean the old guys seem. to forget that what was the Celtics The. Big Three Celtics with bir parish and.

Mel they also had Dennis Johnson who's. in the Hall of Fame right uh the Lakers. so what was uh Kareem magic and worthy. Killers was that not a super team but. see I see work through a drive though. but that's the thing well everybody. everybody ain't uh uh uh uh Jerry. West everybody ain't Bob Myers everybody. ain't a wasn't coach arback to be able. to put a team together yeah I hear that. I think like the difference now is.

players want to play with each other. more so than playing play it against. each other right um and that's probably. the thing that irks older players like. if you're not on the same team. early I want to compete against you. because you're my rival in that I I like. the competition you know it's just like. playing cards or dominoes right like I'm. going to try to kick your ass on the. domino table you still my dog still my. boy but I'm still going to go at you and.

I think that's the difference in today's. game than the errors before what do you. think about for me and I I I call some. criticism but I I'm not afraid to say it. I believe even in football the players. are more skilled they're more athletic. and today it's called Evolution players. get bigger faster stronger they jump. higher they shoot better yeah they do. from deeper from you know they shoot. from half court now you see Dame coming. across half if you not at half court.

with him yeah guys wasn't doing that the. game was completely different so I think. that's older players have to let that go. but see I I think the old older player. think playing football where they not as. tough I mean being rules are different. yes yeah like being tough is I guess in. in your era of football getting the. concussion getting your ass back out. there on the next snap. putting the bandaid over the helmet so. yes yes that that was that was the.

physicality of it but that but that I. mean be I guess I mean would you. consider being tough for skill I now it. is um it's a mentality that you got to. have and it's it's a little bit I I I. you got to look at it different now like. their tough is different from what our. tough is right you play with book and. you played with Bradley Bill if you had. to say who you think's the better. shooter oh uh book is probably the. better shooter or yeah I don't know. that's. tough book is super cold but Brad is.

super super cold um but if I would say a. better shooter I'm probably going to. have to go with book yeah um do you. think book Bill and KD you think they. can win a title if they got a point. guard it look like it going to be book. he book ain't a point guard he too book. scored 70 points in the NBA. got to go. s yeah no you blocked KD shot a couple. of times how hard is it defend KD KD is.

probably one of the most difficult. people to guard because he's seven feet. and he could shoot from deep and he got. a bag so. um yeah it's the players now again like. they're unbelievable yeah there was no. there's nobody really like KD if you say. Dirk could shoot the ball like KD but. Dirk was you know he going to get it on. the Block he going shoot the one leg. step back yeah he can let the three go.

he wouldn't put it on the floor like KD. can get all the way to the rim finish at. The Rim can stop pop got the three Dirk. was nasty though yeah oh yeah Dirk was. super cold he um yeah he he he is. probably one of the reasons that there. is a Kevin Durant right you know but. yeah they're they're two different. dirties you play with Dane yeah um how. happened are you that he's out of. Portland and should he have made this. move sooner I don't think he really.

wanted to move Dame is one of those. individuals that he's he's loyal to a f. loyal to the soil yeah loyal to a f yeah. Kevin Garnett huh in Minnesota you. remember how long it took him to get out. yeah uh and um I mean I it's nothing. wrong with that again he's made an. unbelievable living yeah he's created a. identity he's you know done things in. Portland that not a lot of people have. done but you know at some time sometime. in your career change of scenery is.

always good. right Dam or Steph better deep ball. shooter what man that's that's not even. fair I don't even I'm going give you a. 35 foter for your life one of those guys. got to take it who you want shooting it. for game for your life for my life your. life since I'm going go with since Steph. been whooping my ass for so long I'm.

going with Dan yeah yeah [ __ ] that I've. been in the trenches with Dame so I'm. gonna go with d you go with Dame okay. will Dame and Yiannis get it done cuz. it's off to a slow start a little rocky. start but hey you believe they can turn. it around cuz I thought it would be. better than what it was because Dame the. point they get you the pick and roll. Dame's a closer Yiannis is gonna do what. jiannis is going to do are you surprised. they've struggled a little bit early. again. when you don't have training camps to. build build like chemistry it's GNA it's. it's tough to it's tough to to like jail.

straight away but once they settle in. like the part of the Season where it's. ugly and they figure it out I think. they'll have a chance to to put it. together you played with CP3 in New. Orleans you played with him in in. Houston yeah what are your thoughts on. him joining the Warriors you. surprised no I'm not surprised um. it wasn't his choice he got traded he. got traded there. um I wouldn't have done it me personally.

but again I'm not him right um just. because they whooped our ass for so long. right you don't you you ain't trying to. join them I couldn't do it did you ever. see coming the day that you guys would. link up in. Houston yeah I did we we always you know. we he's one of my best friends in the. league wow he's actually my time he's. probably my best friend in the league. you know and to this day uh he's my one. of my best friends right so um yeah I I.

I knew eventually we'll have a another. opportunity to play together thought. we'll have a chance to win the. championship uh we got really close to. to achieving that go but again like I. said sometimes things don't always you. know luck don't always be on your side. is CP misunderstood what is what is it. that because there's a perception about. him little dirty little sneaky. uh everybody everybody got [ __ ]. that I mean if you if you not cheating.

you not trying right right and at that. level so you know if people want to be. upset that he play hard or he does [ __ ]. that's not in the rules technically then. all right that's cool you played against. Draymond man you say Draymond try to put. the had the man like baby boy come on. man so that [ __ ] was so funny I I didn't. see it live but I seen it like on yeah. yeah so just watching him like him in a. I mean you you would Draymond like 66.

you 73 how did he get behind you to be. able to get up there and choke you he. hopping fast he had to understood it but. you know what TR I'm mad at cat can't. let that happen I'm mad at everybody on. that team yeah man I got to have hey T I. got to have y'all now the one thing is I. ain't say we got to be best friend but. when somebody come into the. house everybody fight everybody got a. scrap know what funny me and one of my. another one of my best friends name is. bottoms we call him bottoms his name is. Brandon Heath you know when we were in.

high school we used to fight against. each other all the time but when it. comes to like a Outsider trying to get. in on the outside or whatever we arguing. about that happening bro we going to. tear your ass up how they let that. happen they let the man hold Draymond. got the man in a choke C and cat. standing there Ant-Man standing there. everybody just standing there you know. what it is I I I figure the fines is too. high right and you know it's getting. ready to be C the F when I whip your ass. in practice what's that F how much that.

going to cost that's that's the part of. the game that that is missing right now. probably man you can't you can't leave a. man out there to drive like that nah. because look at the difference look at. what Draymond did when dude had clay and. look at what they did when Draymond had. gobear that's that's all I'm saying. that's the part of the game Draymond. said f him fine now he probably GNA get. suspended probably 5 10 who knows given. his history it might be more games than. that but he said you know what y'all not. going to do that to my boy cuz I can.

just imagine Draymond would have came in. that thing with a chair like a Texas. death row match and I'm not mad at him. for that like again like those things. are they're they're undervalued even. though they might not be great for like. your ratings or it might not be great. for the business of the game but it's. great to understand that you have a. player on your team that's going to ride. with you right or wrong yeah and I would. ride with somebody like that at all. times what are your thoughts I mean I I. I I wanted to ask you because like I. said I've asked a few people I don't.

really understand the basketball culture. kind of like you know football is a is a. holy different it's a totally different. mindset from basketball players but when. you saw the footage of Draymond punching. Jordan P what were the thoughts that. went through your mind did you think. what the f did he say the first thing I. thought sorry to cut you off but what I. thought was who the [ __ ] put this out. like whoever put that out that's who you. need to get at right uh what happens in. house is that should stay in house.

um I I I don't know what happened I. don't even care what happened the part. that I don't like is that it got out. that's the part that's weak to me right. and so you see now all of a sudden I. mean it was like step like a man draym. was wrong clay like a Dre M was wrong it. was like you know it's a very. unfortunate have you seen I mean you. played 18 years have you seen situation. where players fight yes of course I've. been in situations where things have.

gone down so the thing about it is like. when you are with somebody every single. day you're not going to get along every. day right like when people have. relationships or wives or whatever you. in the house with that person every. single day you're not going to get along. every day so like understanding that and. not letting it go outside of your house. is what's the most important. thing how hard is it to defend some. because we've never seen a thing like. steep forget the shooting yeah it's the.

the Perpetual emotion man Beast your ass. still the crazy part is like he shoots a. lot of Threes right but he get a lot of. layups too yes and that's what opens up. the three ball he's always on the move. and he has players that can pass the. ball like like Dre he back in the day he. had um David Lee not David Lee uh the. biggest Australian guy oh oh Andrew bog. Andrew Bogan he was a really good passer. you know so like and cassette screens.

and cassette screens like people that. are sacrific theirselves for a talent. that is as good as him you need them. that's what allows him to be as great as. he. is Will CP3 get the first ring would he. get an opportunity to get the. championship in golden. state no I can't nobody [ __ ] with Denver. on the west to me especially right now. Denver like the way that they move the. ball jic being on their team coach.

Malone I don't see Jamal Jamal is not. there right there oh yeah their team is. just like that are you surprised he was. so willing to come off the bench because. the guy's been a start of his whole. career you said he's a top 75 player I. think he's third all time and assist and. he's like okay those are the sacrific. that you were talking about earlier that. you have to be willing to make if you. want to be a championship team correct. CP is one of those people that his game. can change with the situation so I think.

that um I don't think it bothers him. that he's coming off the bench um I I. just think that if it's best for the. team then he's willing to do that at. this point in his career. right give me you know because you. played with so many great players I kind. of want to get the mindset and bring out. our viewing and listening audience into. it CP3 in practice Yeah Kobe in practice. CP3 in the game Kobe in the game some of. the similarities some of the differences.

uh they both. are ultra competitive CP would try to. probably Kobe will try to beat you and. walking to the locker room CP will be. right on his H. heels yeah so they competitive. everything we shoot pool we play table. ten we play cards. everything everything they want to beat. you out everything Chris Paul also said. had you not gotten hurt in Houston you. probably would have won the championship. if he didn't I would I I would agree.

with that if he didn't get hurt when. when we were in Houston I feel like we. had an opportunity to win that was we. had like top five team in offense top 10. in. defense um you know we shot a lot of we. had a lot of good players on on our team. shot a lot of Threes but yeah I'm just. trying to figure out how you miss 27 27. 26 27 straight threes though how you do. that I think try to do that you would it. was a cap on the it was a lid on the on. the rim cuz everybody was missing them.

man you remember the movie six. man yeah and uh bro was knocking the. shots off the that exactly what was. happening playing with stars obviously. you you're a glue guy you're one of the. guys I mean everybody can't be a star. somebody has to take a role you know. everybody can't be the CEO of the bank. somebody got to be the custodians. somebody got to be the cashiers somebody. got to be the branch. managers how do you find your role your.

niche in a team full of. stars so when you have or you playing. with players that are the star player or. a. superstar you understand that and in. order it just depends like on your. mentality like if you want to win what's. what's the most important thing to you. and for me it's winning like I was a. player that could kind of do a little. bit of everything and in order for me to. be on the court I learned early that you.

have to do something that's going to. help you stay on the court right and. that was play defense hit open shots. dive on the floor do all the [ __ ] all. the things that people do not like to do. right until like your situation change. so for me that situation just happened. to be the role that I took on in every. every team that I played on and my idea. was just to be the best superstar I can. be right in my role that I played well.

how how difficult is it to deal with. egos because you play because the. Superstar know he's here and they're. only like a handful of those guys I'm. talking about like true true and you. played with Kobe you played with LeBron. right obviously you played with CP3 you. played with some other guys James Harden. but how difficult is it to play with a. guy that's like that for me and I can't. speak for other people but for myself. it's it's easy because I feel like I got. my own ISM like I got my own thing that. I do I got my own friends I got my own.

everything right and you know going to. play with those type of individuals they. understand what I bring to the table so. it's not it's not a shot to my ego it's. actually a boost to my ego because I. don't have to try to fit in I I I fit in. because I just fit in right how do you. get comfortable in your role you a three. guy um once made three U made 10 threes. in a game but you were known for your. defense what's what's the the biggest.

key because not only must you try to. limit LeBron or limit James Harden or. limit one of the kawhai or PG whomever. yeah but you still they're still going. to ask you to knock down those thre that. when you get that opportunity because. that's thing now you spending so much. energy because you know they can go get. 40 50 and you trying to limit them as. much as you possibly can while still. maintaining energy to be able to get. that shot up and knock it down I think. uh the mental toughness that's the part. of the game that is that you have to.

have that has to be extremely high. because you like you said you know you. guarding somebody who could go off for. 50 so and they probably going to get to. their average no matter what it's just. making the percentages go down that. gives your team a chance to win if. they're taking more shots to get to. their average and understanding that you. know all right fool like he going to get. to his average but you just can't make. it easy for him right do everything you. can to make it as uncomfortable as.

possible you've got the. distinction of being the most traded. player in NBA history yeah how difficult. is that on your family and then when did. you're like damn again again I mean you. like a military family but you you you. on the move bro yeah I mean I was I'm. doing what I love to do right and it. don't matter what Jersey it is or what. city I looked at it as you know my. somebody wanted me no my family got to.

see different parts of the country right. and I'm still playing at the top level. in the sport that I chose to play in. what was the best and worst trade you. experienced uh well there was one time I. got traded like four times right in like. a day or whatever huh yeah but I didn't. go to none of the places so um I think. the best experience of being traded was. a team that wasn't going to use me they. allowed me the opportunity to train and.

do the things that I needed to do in the. space that I was at like with my family. so you know I have a lot of respect for. for that Organization for that team and. you know understanding you know my age. or whatever they they um they they gave. me the respect of allowing me to to be. at home while they were looking for a. place for me to go when you say you was. traded four times in a day so how did. that go you're in a your hotel room or.

two days or some [ __ ] two but anyway so. your your agent says okay you got traded. to such and such but sit tight you're. probably not going to go there they're. looking to move you and so you just. sitting tight you're like well damn I. mean it's nice to be wanted but so what. what's what's going on in your head what. are you thinking I just wait until I go. to where I'm supposed to go right yeah. it's that's not like that's not a bruise. to my ego right you know like this is a. this it's Sports you know I'm still GNA.

get a chance to compete so the guys that. get caught up in that they got to be a. little bit younger because again like. the older you get the longer um the. longer you play you understand it's a. business you know we as the athlete the. young athlete we looking at it as from. the Love of the Game and as you get a. little bit older you start to understand. both sides of it being from La obviously. you love La what's outside of La what's. one of the a couple of the best cities. that you lived in I love Houston uh.

Miami for sure DC is great New York was. great well I mean you you live in there. they 50 stat you liveed in like 12 of. them right so I got to experience a. whole bunch of things not a lot of other. people got get to experience and I still. got to do it first class yeah I read. what you said that you were traveling to. Milwaukee and I think uh Oklahoma City. and you experienced ghost is that true. oh man there was a hotel in in Oklahoma.

City. theuring yeah that's true and y'all. still they our team still stay there I. don't know if team stay there now but I. remember just laying on my. bed it had to be like early like getting. in late so it's early in the morning I'm. laying on my bed the lights are on. everything is on so I fall asleep on the. bed fully closed I ended up in the bed. the lights off I was just I I I know I.

didn't do it what I didn't put myself. but you still clothes though right the G. didn't take your clothes okay just make. show St me naked but I was uh I ended up. in the bed with the lights off okay give. me your all time starting five based on. your teammates former teammates so Kobe. LeBron Dwight Howard Westbrook D Melo. book CP3 Tracy McGrady P Gasol Penny. Hardway and Stefon Mar stting five.

that's let me look at that list let me. see where is it at all right Kobe for. show yeah um so these guys who start. right yeah you all right so I'm GNA go. with. Kobe I'mma go with uh. Chris I'mma go with pal. MH uh I'm going put Dwight in there okay. and you don't got no fourman in here oh. no pal yeah pal your four yeah pal for. sure Dwight your five Dwight pal you.

missing a three a three I didn't say Bri. nope well. Bri that's it and that's a nice little. Squad do you think let me ask you a. question in their Prime you win a. championship with this team in their. Prime I don't think that Team. Works wow so Kobe buun Dwight p and CP3. you think it works. no BR and Kobe all of. them well I mean Dwight going to block.

the shots going to get you some rebounds. I'm going to want the ball want the ball. yeah okay CP3 pick and roll with LeBron. Co have the ball Kobe gonna have the. ball. LeBron gonna have the. rock so like yeah they not who they are. without the ball right yeah so we going. to sell a lot of ticket a going win no. not going win no champ. nah of all the teammates you had to have. never won a ring who would you like to. give a ring to Tracy McGrady Penny CP3.

Melo. Grill you can only get one ring CP who. else T-Mac tmac. Penny Melo Gill I'mma go with. CP should Rings matter in an. argument individual no they shouldn't. matter if it's an individual Talent only. in teams only in only when you talking.

on the concept of a team cuz see can I. can I give you my opinion yeah I believe. you can be great without having a ring. but to be in the conversation for great. TI you've got to have a ring agree or. disagree you got to have a great team. only great teams win. championships. there hasn't been one player in the. history of the NFL NBA NHL that has won.

a. championship by themselves. right it just ain't happened so are you. willing to put Carl. Malone if that's the case because I. think Carl Malone would be probably the. number one power forward had he won a. couple of championships but that. distinction to brong to Tim Duncan Tim. Duncan is killer right no I mean again. like I said it's too many great players. right to choose the greatest um as far.

as well you just told me you say Jordan. is in the league by himself yeah cuz he. pushed the game he changed the game. people people all the shoes we wear look. like Jordan well you do know what magic. and bird did because they used to the. games used to be on tape delay the NBA. Finals was on tape delay they played it. one day you watched it later yeah magic. is killer too bird is killer. but I I'm I'm just so so what is your. definition how how would you define a. great player what what's a great player.

to you what is it is it some numbers is. it all NBA selections is it Allstar is. it MV is it MVPs I'm just we talk about. just great players no rings because for. me like I said I believe in order to be. into the greatest conversation you need. titles preference I guess um for me I. like I like uh mentality. I like um style I like. Charisma I like um I like winners right. so for me that's going to be different.

than everybody else I want to say it. like this so so think about this. remember that year Cleveland and um what. was that Cleveland and uh Golden State. played and I think uh Bri led the whole. yeah and all the stats yeah that would. be the one time somebody can say. somebody won a. championship or was the closest to. winning a championship Yeah by himself. right mhm and I don't even think they. won they didn't they didn't yeah they.

did oh well well he yeah he did well. yeah he did he uh the year that was 2016. when he chased him down I don't think. they won they won that year 2016 they. did yeah he he he led the entire finals. in points rebounds steals block shots. yeah so like in that sense that's like. winning by yourself you played with. Dwight in Orlando Houston Washington la. [ __ ] why doesn't de how get the respect. he. deserves why doesn't he get the yeah we. gonna talk about what what he got what. he got going on out the field let's.

let's set that aside let's talk about. the player on the court probably because. I think he probably was a little bit too. goofy like he played too much um in my. opinion so. like everybody else don't understand. that type of like. personality um when they thinking. of. um greatness I guess like it's different. like he has like the smile and he likes. to like laugh and get alone but you know.

having a smile and being a killer is you. know I don't know the only person to get. that off is is magic magic yeah what was. he like in the locker room was he a good. teammate he seemed like I mean like you. said he was very you know fun go. outgoing fun loving but I mean the dude. was a was a a 20 and 10 2010 24 2014 guy. he a three time defensive consecutive. defensive player of the year uh in his. prime he was a top five player finished. second in the MVP voting so they make it.

seem like the man was a I can see if he. laughing and joking and giving you seven. and eight yeah he laughing and joking. give you 2014 with three and a half. blocks I he he's been disrespected. completely for his talent and the things. that he's done to this game how shocked. are you John Wall he has man he he went. through it I think he had like an ACL. and then towards ailles and then he lost. his mom he he he had a stretch where he. really went through it yeah do you think. his career is. over no it's not his career ain't over.

until he put it down right but man he. had a a rough go at you know he had some. years where it wasn't wasn't you know. nobody everybody was struggling that. situation that he that he went through. so um where he is at this point is. unfortunate there's a situation in the. Clippers locker room after the game and. they confronted some of the. players I mean I what the little was a. little turn somebody knew about a secret.

passage did you know about that passage. I mean everybody that plays in the NBA. they do about it the locker rooms are. right there. right what about. it what so what set that. off uh we'll set that off there was an. altercation or like you know words being. exchanged on the court. and uh me and one of my old teammates we. you know we was talking to each other. and then like again remember I was.

talking about like a Outsider yeah. getting in in between family. business that's the situation and so you. like okay yeah so and I didn't I didn't. you didn't understand you Ain got. nothing to do with this yeah I didn't. hear what he had to say so you know the. person that I am um I wanted to know. what he had to say right do you ever. take a okay In the Heat of the botom. they're like a man bam in your face Tre. up take. that punk you know what you can't guard.

me do you take that personal you say. okay we just in the game no yeah it's. not personal unless it's disrespectful. right so like there's a few trigger. words. that that become. disrespectful and so then you like hold. on now okay yeah you got them two on me. now but on now yeah no it's it's it's. cool like if that's what you do that's. what you do you know I I don't take it. personal because I understand you're a. basketball player right and this is.

basketball but uh I remember I do. remember this CU Trey plays with the. Hawks I'm from Georgia lived at Atlanta. still got a place there he tried to. Nutmeg you and you check the man yeah. you going to let him har Globe try to. [ __ ] no we not even in like again he's. he he's unbelievable right and I've been. seeing them do it and I watched them. gearing up to try to like do it to me. and it was just reaction it wasn't like. you know I'm like oh you a going to put. me on the highlight tape no it's not. that just play with your peers right you.

know. I'm that's yeah that's not for. me you guarded LeBron you guarded Kobe. that's those are your assignment you. going into the game what's your mindset. going into the game you guarding Kobe. what's your mindset going into the game. guarding LeBron and what's your toughest. matchup well Kobe will be the tougher. matchup and Kobe is the tougher matchup. because he's way more Relentless Braun. is more like of.

U he's Relentless in a different way. he's going to make the right play so br. will beat you up get into the paint and. like kick it out and you like. [ __ ] Kobe is Kobe will beat you up get. in the paint pump fake you pump fake you. spin pump fake you again get you in the. air beat you up and one and one yeah so. yeah that's he that's like complete. embarrassment players under 25 you want.

to build your team around you got Zion. you got Jo got some issues Anthony. Edwards Anthony Edwards I was gonna go. LCA uh wom minyama Tyrese halberton Melo. K. Cunningham I like I love Anthony Edwards. gang he's called he definitely seems. like a different animal this year he's. Super C he will be the first person. I like Melo uh lamelo he's real good uh. who else did you say LCA for sure Luca's. good Luca is really good Tyrese.

halberton Halbert is really good he's a. scorer you like that trade halberton. from the Kings for oh he's a point guard. yeah he's really good he's he's better. than what I thought he was like. initially uh he shoots from from Deep he. he can pass the ball like really really. well I think I think what you call him. won that Trey I think uh Indiana won. that trade with sabonis sabonis is I. mean I like sabonis he's a triple double. machine 71 can rebound can score can can. assist the basketball I think Indiana.

won that trade too yeah yeah they they. they got him on that one what what are. your thoughts on on on. wimy man I don't think I think that he. is extraordinary like he's an. extraordinary Talent. um I somebody asked me that earlier they. but they compared them to KD right as. far as like scoring the ball and like. the way that I try to like explain it I.

try to say like he's going to score the. ball because you know he's he's and he's. the guy on his team the percentage is. how you're going to be able to tell on. who could possibly be the better player. so like wait till the end of the season. give you 82 games and the field goal. percentage and the average would kind of. determine on who would kind of score. more points right or be. better did you like the comparison when.

Shaq said wimy is boo I understood what. he was saying completely cuz bo b got. super skill he's super talented I I mean. I haven't been around him as a teammate. or seen him or you know been in a space. where I can like get a ear to why he. don't play M but I can see him being. similar like the times that he did play. uh last year or when he was in Orlando. he was in Orlando then he was with the. Nuggets he killed in Orlando like the.

stretch that he played he was killing so. I understand the. comparison we talked earlier you said. Ant-Man is the best player in the for. you Ant-Man is the best player in the. NBA give me your top five. players top. five uh. Tatum under a certain age or no damn. five player just too many uh I like B I. like uh I'm a go young I'm like BG I.

like Anthony Edwards. Luca yic ain't that young. yic. um. KD uh did you play with uh ime Oken at. Knicks who I no I was going to wonder if. you what you thought about him so how do. you think he'll do in Houston cuz it. seemed they played well that's a very. young team yeah I I I like what he does. he come like his coaching background is. a is a a really good coaching background.

you know they have principles so you. know how you say like the heat way um. where he comes from they have a way as. well right um so those core principles. have shown that they work throughout the. years they're Timeless and um it seems. like players like playing for him right. he. are are you surprised that he was able. to get a second chance I don't think I. don't think what he did was an un I mean. people oh he did this look okay okay.

that's between him and his partner they. they went on their separate ways but he. ain't kill nobody come on what did he do. exactly I mean look little you. know no I don't know well I mean anybody. that's what I'm saying so like well the. say what we say down south he put his. penis in his. wallet that's that what he did I mean. like that what we call it down south so. we have a a saying where I don't know if. it's appropriate to say we can be it out. if necessary huh we can be it out if.

necessary you stay out of dick and [ __ ]. business right okay that's that's fair. enough that's fair enough Dylan Brooks. what do you think of Brooks hard knows. yeah I like his game he played hard he. played hard as. hell you played in the two biggest. markets New York la which one you like. the best. I'm a homer you home La threw it through. yeah I'm a homer but did you like. playing in New York I love playing in. New York I think I was too young to appr.

appreciate it. completely but you know being at home is. home oh I got one for. you you were second round draft pick in. 24 who's the be who's the best second. round draft pick of all time for me yeah. Gilbert are you sure I mean that's. that's who came to my mind first you. knew I there's a a two-time MVP and a. Finals MVP that was in the second round. yic oh y is is cold bro yish is so cold.

I'm going let you I'll let you change it. if iin change I'm going go with Gilbert. Gilbert is Gilbert is sick he just ain't. win name Manu so Manu joic Gilbert. Draymond Dennis Rodman Mark Gasol I'm. not so sure D Gil I me gil my guy but. Gil might be he might be third four on. this list I'm going with. Gil I'm going with Gil for. sure what uh the rookie contract you.

look at it look at the salaries now guys. guys about to get a contract Jason tat. about to get 400 400 Mill it's beautiful. and he 25 so he gonna get another. contract so he might do a billion. dollars in NBA contracts are you. surprised cuz I just remember what was. it like five years ago Mike connley had. the biggest contract at 151 million. right I'm not surprised that means the. game is growing right and that's a. beautiful thing like you always want to. see people behind. you get better right evolution is always.

a good thing right what was some of your. best purchases I mean you come in as a. rookie a seventh round draft pick you. wasn't a lottery pick so you so what was. what was one of your best purchases one. of your worst purchases as a rookie. uh uh my I guess being able to get my. mom a house right that was the best. Feelgood thing uh for me um probably the. worst thing depreciating assets cars.

jewelry dumb [ __ ]. yeah so as a rookie you know you got to. take everybody you got to take the vet. out where you take him and how much. you see so like for us it was different. um they just make us do well I don't. even know if they do that now but when I. was a rookie we used to have to like. grab the bags help the uh equipment. manager take the bags off the plane uh. in every city carry people's you know. bags and.

stuffs all that stuff we had to do that. but like I had vets that was like super. up like they were real Rich right so. they would like you know I didn't they. didn't get no issue out of me so they. would take care of me right the uh La. there have been a lot of home invasions. there have been a lot of you know. robberies with celebrities how do you. advise players to move in. La don't be. flashy like keep your head on the swivel.

all at all times and keep your [ __ ] off. IG cuz they come get it stay off IG for. sure especially if you not if you not. from here just try to stay as respectful. as you possibly can is that why you keep. such a low profile I just feel like I I. like to move in the shadows period right. yeah you're young brother passed away MH. falling in a hotel room how did that. impact. Trevor uh I my brother dying I think it.

made me uh it helped me it helped me. more so then like it hurt me and that's. weird it sounds crazy but it allowed me. to like pick up a ball and like put my. pain into all the the basketball instead. of the other way cuz it could have went. the other way too mhm that's probably I. got in a lot of trouble when I was. younger around that time right um but. basketball helped your C basketball.

definitely help it gave me an outlet to. to let you know all the emotions out. in dating advice I mean having been 18. years uh you mentioned you have three. kids is there any advice that you gave. rookies or that you received from the. vet when you got into the league that. you later didn't in turn passed along. stop lying. be honest you know I feel like um in a. position where you know you have.

everything that you need or you want. it's no need for you to lie to nobody. right so just be honest with who you are. and what you about and people that like. you gonna like you anyway right I read. that ter Terell Owens came to your. Clipper tribe why was to there I mean. y'all played together y'all were cool. like that I mean support system no T you. know what's crazy to just is I feel like. he just loves the gym he's a gym rat. completely and uh he happened to be.

there at the time and um he was in there. watching that that was that was dope Tio. swear he could he believe he could have. played in the NBA he probably Fel he. probably could have if he started a. little bit earlier right he's super he's. athlete he could do everything was he. good I mean I'm sure he like he like. he's been open run he's like played with. some of the players you think he got a. decent game I think he got a a a really. good game for uh a professional athlete. that played another. sport. what NBA player you think if they would.

have started early could have played in. uh the NFL Anthony. Edwards I like Anthony Edwards how you. like. [Laughter]. bri fair enough fair enough what's next. what what's next for uh Trevor reason. what's next for me. uh I like to say that when you see it. and when you hear about it then you. going to know yeah silence super silent.

people can't take [ __ ] from you when. they they don't know about it yeah. forever reason here let's have this. Drake congrats 18 years all the best bro. appreciate it. cheers grinding on my life sacrifice. hustle pay the price want a slice got. the Roll It that's why all my life been. grinding all my life all my life. grinding all my life sacrifice the price.

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