Tommy Davidson on Will Smith Fight, Jamie Foxx Fallout, Jennifer Lopez Shade & Wayans Family

and this ain't no JLo Bastion cuz she. crazy talented right so I saw her at the. upfronts it was me and Danny DeVito and. he's like there J lus over there you. know her right I'm like yeah I know her. so I go over there and I'm like what's. up girl you blew what what is going on. she was like. Hey get some little carrot dip now I'm. going you know what's in that carrot tip. you know because she your dipping my ass. all my life grinding my life sacrifice.

hustle P the price want a slice got the. roll of dice that's why all my life I. been grinding on my life all my life. running all my life sacrifice hustle P. the price want a slice got the. roll hello welcome to another edition of. Club sh Shay I am your host Shannon. sharp I'm also the proprietor of Club. Shay and the guy that's stopping by for. conversation no drinking today.

is Emy Award winner comedian actor voice. actor writer producer musician director. author been in the industry almost 40. Years A friend of mine Tommy Davidson. what's up man Tommy how you doing bro. long long. long wait man skip what you bro skip I. no skip. skip what. skip. skip. we I love you doing that when skip skip. skip skip you for real for real skip.

skip already for real already huh we you. know we not good we in we in we in good. to see you thanks for stopping by that's. love man you you you lighting it up you. lighting up the scoreboard I appreciate. that yeah man you got your start one of. your first gigs you had as a comedian. you performed in a strip club how you. telling Joe look at that. booty you see that that was a dark you. see that you see that quick give me me.

one Tommy first one you know what mean. actually actually actually that was uh. my friend Howard man that I grew up in. my neighborhood with okay we grew up on. the same project we knew each other. since we were eight and um we live. pretty a rough neighborhood you know um. and I had got a job at a rata in when I. was 19 okay as an assistant Chef okay as. a chef as a an assistant Chef okay right. but I got paid you know paid comparably. with that right at 19 okay so I called.

Howard and I said Howard you know I got. this job at the Remada end and D Howard. said you about to stupidest I didn't. ever seen in my life okay you can be in. Hollywood writing your own ticket you. can be like Eddie Murphy do your own. movies do all that stuff you just mad. that I got a job right you know what I. mean okay he's like nah man you should. be on the stage I don't want to hear. nothing right so he called me and said. hey I got he called me on my my phone at. home we have.

right you know uh uh I got you an. opening to go down to the. penthouse to do a show I'm like the. penthouse the penthouse is the worst. strip club in the world okay the girls. got bullet holes in their ass uh uh uh. the the guards that are out front got. shirts on the that say on the back don't. shoot them okay so I'm like I ain't. going down there he said he going to. give you 5 minutes you know right so he. comes over to my house it's February. it's freezing I got my dots and B210.

ready Boom the radiator breaks right the. radiator breaks he gets right back on. the bus like nothing I'll be back next. week he comes back next week my. radiators fixed said let's go so we go. down to this club and you know the. manager comes. out you know this him you know he's like. yeah that's my man you know you got five. minutes man and so I'm going well Howard. what do you want me to do he said I. don't care what you do just get on that. mic and say something all right I got up.

there had you worked out anything no no. he just said he just said hey he knows. me okay from the first thing I said they. laughed and it and and I'm sitting here. with you now it was like that did you. all did you always want to be in show B. because you took a job as an assistant. Chef uhuh were you running away from. this what was going on no I I wanted to. be a singer okay that was my thing I. started with the Jackson 5 and I played. in bands and I was I had grown men.

coming over and asking my mom can he. come and gig in our band right so that. was my thing I was be a big music star. okay I didn't really like comedy that. much I like prior right cuz he'll make. you laugh no matter what right but I'm a. big fan of Ohio players and the Eagles. and that was my whole Steelo I watch. Carol Bernett and I'm into the music. right okay and so it didn't look like. that was going to happen you know when I. got about 14 I want to do what everybody. else did right you know like play. football and play BAS basketball and all.

this stuff well that ended when I was 15. right because I went cuz I went away for. one summer One Summer and I came. back and everybody everybody was bigger. I'm talking about three times my size. and and I went in there to one practice. and I was like okay that's it so so that. career is over right and so I always had. singing and that's one of my weapons. right that I have in my Arsenal right. you know but comedy I didn't know I.

really had it I found out because the. teacher would go oh so you're the. comedian right you going down to the. principal's office okay you know you. going to put up the black Power Fist and. we doing the national anthem you know. right so the comedy came out of my. mother who's white right right and my. family who's white who comes down to the. elementary school and says he'll learn. the national anthem right she used to. like to do this right but that's all he. knows about. himself he knows Say It Loud I'm Black. and I'm proud he knows who he is right.

but you can teach him anything right cuz. he'll pick up on it so that's that's I. just was just funny because I love. happiness I love laughing right and I. come from the The Laughing neighborhood. in the world in DC summer hill and we we. would tear you up right so it was. already there but a lot a lot more was. there than I can ever imagine so were. you a Class Clown uh I think I was I was. a a class clown on on on um or were you.

trying to get attention no I was a class. clown on on. steroids okay I didn't have to get no. attention because I finished finished my. work so fast right that then I was just. like I was just balling okay you know. what I mean it's it's like I love to see. people happy right you know what I mean. like the teacher would go hey I beat you. and gum you you know teacher go hey do. you have enough gum for everybody else I. go sure do got a he Juicy Fruit plenty. pack right get out of here you know. what's like like I had all the answers.

you know what I mean and so my timing. was already impeccable right you know I. watched uh everybody do everything and I. didn't know they were even. Impressions that's the reason why my. mother kept saying man shut up I did. Alro. boom she be she said can you shut that. up until she saw him on TV and she said. do that. again you know so that that that was me. anyway right you know Stallone what WR.

my house Mick oh Mick why you looking. around my. house my house stink Mick right stage. Mick I never ask you for no favors yeah. mean to fight the fight I'll fight the. fight you w't be there Mick and it's. just stuck right like um and I can and I. don't really practice right if I hear. something long enough right it's going. to register right you know what I mean. like um Obama I couldn't get him so I. said just shut up and just listen to him. next thing you know oh he's on chasa and.

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singers okay I I didn't get to a club. for a year okay so Patty Le Bell saw me. she said you're incredible uh Kenny G. saw me he said you're incredible Freddy. Jackson saw me you're incredible Luther. vros Anita Baker went on their tour cuz. I did singing Impressions too right you. know and that's what helped me a lot you. know Rick James you know uh uh wow I. didn't know that I love you just the. same marriage I love you baby baby.

baby Mary don't play no games you know. so I can go hard right and so that's. what it was but people were saying you. need to play in the clubs right right. and I never been in a club the first. night I went to a club Sinbad was in. town okay right Sinbad had W Star Search. remember star sear long so all the. comics were at one club in DC that's the. night I met Martin and Dave for the. first time wow we all from the same city.

right and so that's the point I started. working clubs okay but the big break was. I won the Apollo I didn't win it right. but I won it right you know I got I. don't know how you fix an audience but. the dude did it you know there was a. singer Dave peton and there was me you. do it by Applause right so the guy goes. Dave. peton tommmy. DAV Dave. P Tommy DAV and then he goes all right. guys all right do you want Tommy.

Davidson from Washington. DC or do you want Dave from New York. City and I was. like what he got you out of. there so how did you are so you go from. that and you audition you were the first. to audition for In Living Color. correct I was the first to get the part. wow to get the part my audition didn't. go to yeah I heard you bombed I Bas.

you're right I Bas but I based that on. the look in their face when I was done. right cuz I was going out the room and. they was. like Hey man see you around man hey so. what what did they ask you to do so so. go you going in for an audition on. Living Color right I thought I didn't. know what improv was right right so I'm. going to try to improv right so they. asked me crazy questions like you're a. drunk Puerto Rican cab driver right. trying to talk to you your your. customers you.

know if you going. to if you're going to go downtown I I. don't go downtown you know I did all. these things quick and it was over right. that was the audition I a't get no. feedback and it was over the reason why. I got it because I was so strong and. stand up I was so strong and stand up I. had that football principle right you. know repetition repetition repetition. repetition repetition repetition and. then stuffs starts becoming like an. instinct right so I was 30th that night.

at a 30 of the hottest comics in the. business Okay Lego Jim Carrey Jamie. everybody Jamie Fox everybody wanted the. show right and there I was right. 30th okay and um as I'm on the on the. sidewalk CU I never watched other other. comedians you know what I mean I just. kind of did my own thing and my manager. kept coming out and going you can't do. this bit because somebody did that one. right and then they come out again and. say you can't that bit because such and.

such did that one so my show was getting. a little bit shorter shorter shorter as. I go but but I was confident in what I. had because we always work we we worked. on comedy with a discipline my my. manager had a stopwatch I know how much. 2 minutes is 6 minutes is an hour 46. minutes 2 minutes you know just by. running through my stuff and I knew my. stuff really really well I hated it I. hated it that he take me out to the pool. and make me work on my stand up when no. one's around and get the time in but I'm. glad he did did you know that you were.

part about to be part of History nah no. not at all I knew that. um the real the real thing about the. whole thing was I actually was about to. go home you know I had had enough of. Hollywood man I've been here I I I I. kicked ass for three years in the clubs. okay I had I had a job back home I had I. had a uh U Celica GT of 78 that I got. from my mother's Credit Union okay and I.

still had my B210 I had an apartment. right you know with with W to wall. carpet and a cat you know and plenty of. roaches though I mean I a mind you you. just take the hamper and shake it out in. the street every couple of months you. know what I mean they love wicker by the. way so so so so I'm you know I came out. here to and I was catching the bus right. you couldn't catch me on the bus alive. boy because we used to go uh to do. laundry on the bus bus yeah yeah. Groceries on the bus life was the bus.

and we lived in the winter too so I'm on. the bus three a day okay I'm working up. till 1 in I'm working up till till 1:00. in the morning and I'm up at like 5: right because once I get off around uh. 3ish or something like that I start at. the clubs and we hit every Club until no. one was open no more right and they were. saying me for 3.

years and I was turning it out they were. saying you're not what we're looking for. you're not what we're looking for did it. I mean so what were they looking for. well it it looked like all the white. Comics weren't getting that comment and. they weren't getting getting um standard. Ovations right so I surmised that it was. that you know and some things to me are. like societal rules that that are in. between the rules right like I used to. be late to school my sister looks like. Cindy Brady okay okay all right my.

brother look like uh uh David Cassidy I. mean y'all gota be old yeah all right. but but I'd go to school late and she go. to school late and the punishment for. that was you have to sign up for. detention right she used to be able to. go straight to class and I had to sign. up for the te so here come my mother. again I used to think she was crazy she. came sat down with the principal who is. black she said okay so what the is the. problem here and he was going what. what's going on Miss Davis what's going. he said she said why does my daughter.

get to go to class and my son have to. sign up for detention and he said well. we didn't know that was your daughter. man she said why does that make any. difference you know and he said we'll. get that straight we'll get that. straight but my mother does this man I. said she said. you're coming with me today and I was. like a man here come one of these. speeches she took me to the park she sat. me on a a picnic bench me and her she. would talk to me she Saidi need you to.

know something about the world you live. in okay it's going to bother you but. it's a fact she said your. sister can actually be. late but you. can't if you want to be successful in. this world in this world you can't be. late at. all it's just the way it works you know. and I hated that right I wanted to cry. but she was right so I thought it was.

that rule I just connected to that but I. kept going and I started getting more. and more I won at the at the comedy. store because finally I I got a shot in. the main room right okay this is the big. night prior's there and Richard's there. and everybody plays that room you know. and I got a call from The Comedy Store. and they said you're in the main room. tonight and I was like oh okay who am I. hosting for right you're like who am I. bringing on MC and they was like no.

you're on the show wow I was like what. okay so then who am I hosting for they. said no you got 30 minutes I said I got. 30 minutes never got that right 30. minutes but I could do an hour right. right 30 minutes who else is on the show. they told me Eddie Murphy and Richard. Pryor it's just y'all three wow okay. it's rich on F it's two two shows T. night Friday and. Saturday Eddie goes on first. the first show.

Friday uh uh and and and um prior go. second and it's it's flip-flop for the. other right right and then the very next. night it was the same. thing and how did I. do how did you. do Francis Asbury Tarkington drop back. and hit his hit his receivers for 80. yards in the third.

quarter but then but then Larry Zona. gave the Purple People Eater ingestion. as he used his helmet as a. bam okay my old NFL fil I see you know. what I mean yeah it was like the. interception with Jer yeah that that the. interception with with the with with. Will Davis yeah baby that's what it was. because it was time right it was my time. how was it you mentioned you got Jim. Cary who's not Jim Cary yet you got. Jamie Fox who's not Jamie Fox yet uh you.

mentioned JN leg was I mean there's so. many you got the. weigh-in who would how was it how did. the egos mesh how did you divvy up time. how did you determine who's going to do. this kid who's going to be with that. person who's going to be with this. person kind of like when you was with TD. and um and um mcaffrey and them yeah and. um had another running back I like he's. coach now Tony Anthony Anthony Le yeah. just kind of how you felt you know you.

got to play your game no matter what you. want the ball though yeah you want the. ball but if you have success everybody's. going to right there's enough of the pil. of go around exactly exactly you know. what I mean so it's like you know when. we got on that platform everything. counted and and Keenan was smart he knew. how to get the best out of us right he. made us work against each other not in a. negative way right but if it's not funny. it won't make the.

show period you got to work with the. writers yourself and write your own. sketches you got to present your. characters to us everybody to the. writers to the producers to the actors. you got to present it to everybody right. you got to be funny in that room and. then that goes on the show did okay next. did you guys ever work together did you. say okay Jamie hey check this out what. do you think about this this and this or. did you get with Jim car said Jim what. do you think about this David Al David. Allen G was also on that show so did you.

guys get together and says okay I think. we'll be great if we do this yeah but. that happened with everybody In Living. Color that's why it was special because. we did it with the cameramen we did it. with the makeup women we did it with the. Wardrobe people everybody had everybody. had a feedback okay so when we were in. when we were we in rehearsal right we. were all giving each other no no no. don't do that don't don't do that. remember you said the chicken before you. said don't no don't say that don't don't. say a pel or duck man say the chicken. the chick didn't the chicken work y'all.

right so we're all in it together right. we're all in together but that one. sketch that you're the lead of that's. your sketch right so the more you were. seen what you know what I mean right the. more laugh you got more opportunities. you going to get for the next episode to. be up in exactly exactly it's like um. who told me this Lonzo H Smith you know. Lonzo yeah I do know right H told me I. said you can probably play right now. couldn't you well I could probably play. right right now I could probably play I. could probably play maybe a quarter he.

said but I ain't got another training. camp in me right it's like that it's. like do right do right do right do right. people on your shoulder the whole thing. you know what I mean yeah and so it was. that's what it was. but how do you make how do you make it. funny a second and third time cuz like. normally like say save that for the show. don't leave that on The Cutting Room. floor so how if somebody's Hur it. because normally something funny Once. right right so how do you like okay and.

then make sure yeah I think Kenan did. that and he created a monster so he said. y'all get one take you know the rest of. is yours don't never tell us that we. improved everything from that first take. oh okay we it was a it was a we had a. competition going under the under the. radar right what can I say that you. haven't heard before that's going to. make you laugh right in the middle. little sketch and we was doing that. constantly constantly so if you watch.

the show right Jim Cary could be going I. just a fire and fire and do that again. hold on hold. on he caught a quick quick one-hander he. did a quick out you see that um um and. and and you be over there. going cuz I'm playing this serious guy. named Benny right and he's supposed to. be in my Mansion you know what I mean. but Jim Carrey when he gets hit by the. sush by the emergency. he doesn't just go down right like he's.

supposed to go down the floor you know. and then get up and say his line Tommy I. mean Vinnie I'm a fire marshal well when. he goes down he. goes I'm a fire okay now the the. director is saying cut stop it Jim stop. that we don't have time we can't be oh I. lost my cell on that uh we don't have.

time you know we got to get to the next. thing we're doing right take. two and. action okay eight times and I'm in tears. right my eyes are swo Jim you can't do. it again he said I ain't got to that's. how we were we got so bad because Keenan. said y'all can bust. loose he got to the point where he was. coming back to us in the back and going.

damn I got windy by that. D let me breathe for a second manab um. um he came back to the back and would. say to us you. guys we're going to lose the. show we're going to lose the show if. y'all keep doing that we're going to. lose the show I can't keep these sensors. off of you I can't you guys got to help. me man right and he leave the room and. we. like yeah right right you know what I.

mean because that's why it was special. right people got the real thing when you. found out why do you think the show was. canceled I can only I can only imagine. um because Ken is the one that knows but. I just think that we weren't utilizing. the whole cast right you know we at at a. point we only. utilize jam and certain players you know. what I mean right and it didn't take. away from the Talent the group but.

that's what made the team. right you know so you know it was the. thing that made In Living Color the best. was you didn't know what you were going. to see because there was so many. different variations right so they. started seeing it in. repetition and I think what they asked. and this is only me being there and. watching and trying to be trying to be. objective they started asking for new. episodes like you got to give us. something new right you know what I mean. right um or we're going to run.

reruns and so he didn't feel too good. about that that's his show anyway right. um I would if I were him I say I don't. know if you're going to tell me what to. do with my show right you know what I. mean his job probably hard enough trying. to get get everybody in there right you. know what I mean and then deal with us. on on the I mean we were hard right we. were really hard but we just wouldn't. stop right you know and so I think that. that's what happened but I don't really. know cuz I wasn't there you the meeting. with Fox you know I wasn't there uh uh P.

you know P Dante Dante yeah right yeah. Dante ends up leaving Minnesota all the. players are like hey he was my best. friend we used to have an oranage. together it was you know I got. introduced to the NFL years years ago. you know got I got an NFL thing and um. he ended up leaving right and they said. well what happened he said man I went to. talk to the. owner and that was was that he shared. with some other people right you know.

the inside of whatever happened right. but you're not really going to know. unless you were there there there wasn't. podcast then right where you can get and. and and once it's over you can talk. freely and not have to worry about you. know the good old boy Network busting. you down or none of that right you know. you can talk freely but you have to keep. something to yourself then right you how. how much of what you guys did then would. you be able to get away with now. uh we probably be on the air for.

about we probably be on the air for. about five minutes you know what I mean. cuz we just going to go for it right. yeah we going we going we we going to be. canceled right you know by culture. cancel can the cancel culture yeah soon. as we you live in cancer culture right. you float on the moon like a balloon. just cancer culture right you know never. too late and it's never too soon take it. to me it's all right to be canceled okay. okay yeah. but in truth it shouldn't happen to us.

why because how you going to uh uh do uh. culture cancel of us how are you going. to cancel culture we are culture right. how do you cancel something you are. right we're everything that you are. right right we we we we uh emphasize on. gays we emphasize on Mexicans Asians. we're societal show that shows each and.

every aspect of the humor and the love. that our country has that binds us right. you see what I mean and that's what made. us really really good there was really. no division on the show right it was all. black and white right you know black. people if you ask them in a consensus. what their favorite shows are they. probably put Andy Griffin. first uh uh uh Lucy right uh uh Beverly. Hill billies uh uh uh uh I can go on the. bionic man right you know it ain't just.

good times and you can ask white people. what was your favorite show they. probably put uh uh uh uh what's what's. the one we're moving. onon they put that first right they put. the Jefferson first they put good time. good time first you know we all always. laughed at the same things right if we. didn't Al joseon would have never had a. career right you know way back then. that's how everybody talked right it was. an accepted thing with blackface you see. and that's how. that's that's how we got to that that.

stage in culture was cuz them boys came. home from Vietnam right we got busing. women live got their live going right. you know uh Mexicans got their rights. you know the farm Pickers and that whole. thing it was just this whole culture. thing that happened in the 70s where it. was cool and hip it was actually hip to. know other people's culture right it. actually was cool when you held hands. with people and you said the word love. right and peace love and peace were in. style right right the big old peace sign.

and a right on brother you see that. coming from both the hippies and and in. us right you see so we got to that point. right and so this was an outgrowth of. that where we were doing you know we did. Lucy but we did it our style right you. see what I mean we did The Honeymooners. we did our you know we did parodies of. everything that we saw when we were kids. right and everything that we saw in our. Hollywood adult life uh uh uh movies mhm. three Champs and a baby you know me and.

Jamie used to do that uh those two. bodyguards right right uh uh uh so I go. you you you you you you you you you. ain't Tupac and he go yeah yeah you. ain't Tupac cuz if you Tupac you'd be. coming here like like like. [Music]. Drake right right well that was actually. from Rainman right the sketch was called. main man so it's just a black version of. of of rain right so we were just a. reflection. of what culture really is right and.

didn't it change everything it did. nothing's been the same right right M. the corporations went to the bank right. in the billions by now right uh Gatorade. Nike uh uh Playstation what you know. went to the moon right the the sneaker. right boom went we were hip-hop right. before hip-hop got cor corporate so we. launched that Revolution and then we. launched the revolution out in the. suburbs where they're all white kids a. few black ones right then we we launched.

a revolution in in the inner city. schools because those kids couldn't. believe they were having that right and. they were seeing themselves in. roles you see so they probably could try. to cancel culture us if we came out but. I don't think it would be nothing pretty. right you know what I mean and that's. what not what we were about right you. know right so if we can't talk about. nothing we might as well talk about. nothing until it's all right to talk. about something something you know what. I mean do you feel Keenan gets the.

credit he deserves that family and what. he In Living Color you had to see it you. you you you had to I mean back then you. you you recorded it m or you found a way. to get home but you had to see what you. guys were going to do uhhuh does he get. the credit that he deserves no no and. even I give him credit that I didn't. that I didn't really realize until after. after the show right I didn't know how. how much of a genius he was when it.

comes to Comedy I didn't know his people. skills were. so I mean. amazing okay M uh he as a producer he. was unbelievable writer he's. unbelievable director he' already direct. two movies three movies right to do that. show his family make you. jealous cuz when they see each other. even the guys kiss each other on the che. when they see each other I'm like damn. why could have like that you know it's.

like Hey Brother Hey and they hug for a. minute you got what is this family you. know what I mean so they had love too. right you know right out of New York. City so he got a street sense you know. but went to college got a book sense but. he got his own sense got good sense his. mom and his daddy hardworking right you. see but it's his genius I give you an. example we were doing um he he asked me. you know we had to come up with stuff. because it wouldn't get on the show so.

we knew something so he said Tommy. sitting there everybody looking through. this group Tommy um do you have a. Michael Jackson sketch I said yep and. then my mom was like you got. no you told him yes he said I want it. tomorrow I said cool I ran upstairs I. grabbed the writer man me and the writer. wrote the song out wrote the sketch out. I called the guy who does all the music. I went right from the job to his house. we stayed up until 6 in the in the. morning and record that thing he. recorded it put it together we took it.

in that afternoon we put that sketch on. his feet you know with all the stuff. cameras and everything you know cuz. Keenan had heard the song He said let's. do it and set up all the other. production stuff so we're in there I'm. singing the song and walking through in. there stop do this part stop do this. part and we do all this stuff right. we're running plays right right just to. get it in get it in your you know so. after this first snap you got to it's in. you right so this is when Kenan comes in.

Ken comes in when all that's done and. Ken just goes do this do this do that so. Keen comes over he goes H okay Tommy. when you're when you're walking down the. sidewalk from here to here don't just. walk um anybody got any a chalk we're. going to put a hopscotch there for you. so you Hopscotch from there to here okay. so then when you go down the rest of the. rest of the um sidewalk you're going to. get to here mhm right this is the Ed. edge of the sidewalk so do we have a fan.

one of those big giant fans yes we do. we're going to I'm going to have a bunch. of leaves and wind just blow you back. okay when you go to hit the car window. don't just hit the car window. go you know what I mean and then he came. up with that last line you know he said. you know he might black or white and Ken. said uh uh uh you're under arrest the. police says you're under arrest and I. and then I look at the camera go well I. guess I am black. right he just he just tops it off right.

he just tops it off um you knew somebody. like that who don't get credit Shan. right y'all wasn't supposed to win. nothing right yeah all y'all played. Regal football all y'all were all y'all. were just like any other team right but. he was able to find a way to make it. work to get y'all working together and. for y for y'all to buy into your. roles right and look what happened right. twice. I saw in that Atlanta game right Atlanta.

came down twice b b b they they going. for the third one all right we coming in. this first quarter right so they ran a. play and romanoski blitzed and just. missed him by inch somebody on the. sideline must have said do it again. right cuz they came and did it again you. know Rome got him bam and it turn it. changed the emotion on the sideline you. a look back cuz that momentum right that. momentum came back you know is kind of. like the same science the the writers on. the show how much credit does the. writers get because you said a lot of.

what you did was between you and the. writers but and so you guys have to be. in sync it's just like Rogers Ginger. Rogers and Fred steer y y she had the. hardest job because she had to do what. he was doing backwards but she had to do. it in heels right right right. so they're riding this pretty good. observation man you know so so how. difficult was it their job because. they've got a. ACC to you because what might be good.

for you might not be good for Jamie or. David. orim So H how was that and you writing. with different guys all the it's not the. same writer every single right right. this got to be a personal process you. know the best best writers know all that. and so they do their own homework okay. you know they'll go oh Tommy I didn't. write this but how would you say that. you know right would you say that like. that cuz I'm thinking if you said it. this way then that would be the opposite. of how you would say it right so you. know uh uh and I'll say well let's try.

them both when we go to the rehearsal. right if one don't work I'll go the. other one they were there every inch of. the way when they stopped something one. of one of the writers would come in and. go don't forget that you did that about. the purple bunny man you can't forget. that come on man let's kill him like. that right and so they were involved in. and I'll give you their credits okay. friends Martin mhm uh uh uh uh how many.

shows are they responsible for they. actually were the exe they are actually. the executive producers of the hottest. and best shows that lasted the longest. in Hollywood our writers wow and we had. a veritable difference in every writer. we had Franklin thei we had we had we. had black writers white writers Jewish. writers Spanish writers with all kind of. writers right okay mhm and they were all. and a lot of them were really really. smart kids right that went to college. and with degrees and this the thing so.

they they're bringing a lot of um. they're bringing a lot of. intelligence to the sketches right you. know what I mean they can match the. intelligence the natural intelligence of. us right what we had to deal with with. this country we got to be real brilliant. cuz we was like well we can't do nothing. but we got to do something right and we. get that something done you know they. look at it and people say well there was. a lot of nepotism going on because he. had had his brothers in he had his. sisters in and I heard Marlin says like.

Eep nepotism he says I'm doing this and. if I can't put my family on what the. hell am I doing it for MH MH and it's. true and he's right about it and he's. right about it but um let's just say the. receiver in the game is your brother. right all right and it's 25 on the clock. you know you got about two passes is. going to him and he drop everything from.

game on back right who you going to just. because you see what I'm saying we're on. a field and we're playing a game right. you see what I'm saying it wasn't like. they weren't doing their job and they. were still getting rolls they were. performing right but they got a chance. to play right there's a lot of people. that were you know were with Jo and. should have been in the league and you. know it right but it's a game it's. bigger than just the the ACT actual. activity right so once I saw that and. realize that if you're on the other end. of it it doesn't feel so good because.

you want to be a part of it right with. me personally I just wanted to be a part. of the family right you know and I am. right and I am the first thing his. father said to me his father loved me. his whole family loved me I got a movie. I was the first one to get a big movie. strictly business right with with Hal. Berry right right so a lot of people. were easy with that and I was kind of. like ah man but when I went to the. premiere it was me and H and in in the. limousine we drive up and we get out and. the Rope is there and all the people are.

there and guess who's there his father. and his father go Tommy Tommy Tommy. Tommy Davidson baby he's proud of you. like he's a father yeah like you're a. son yeah and Keenan treated me like he. was one of his brothers you know I'm. going through trouble or whatever he'll. say hey man you got to get that right. you know right you work too hard right I. froze up on my first sketch on In Living. Color right right so cuz I I realized I. was on. TV so I'm ready and I'm this comic that.

came from DC and I'm ready to do this. sketch right and I saw the red the red. the Red Dot on the camera and I was. like it turned into like a skull right. I'm there you know they go Tommy. Tommy Tommy Tommy and then finally Damon. walked over to me he put his arm around. me man he said mhm you work way. too hard to get here you over in that.

apartment with your baby you know I. watch you in them clubs all you got to. do just do it you. know you know and that's how that's how. they are so it's it's it's a half a. dozen to one you know it's a tough. process because you want want to win the. game right right but the way that the. game is played you know I don't care how. you slice it it's team right and rolls. you know you don't get that I remember.

um um Denny green when um remember when. the Vikings were packed they had Chris. they had Moss they had Robert remember. Roberts Robert they had every Jordan at. te they had that defense they had. everything pep they had it all they were. the machine and they lost in the first. round of Phoenix remember that and so. they were broken cuz that was their year. right they should have been in Atlanta. right I guess so right I guess they'. have been playing y'all yeah they lost. to the Falcons in the championship game. yeah that that was Rand Cunningham right. and that okay and that hurt me cuz I'm a.

Minnesota fan right I'm that long story. so so how you going to be that fan you. had just came and did our Super Bowl. party hey man what kind of bull driver. is that you came did our he our fool got. our money hey I'mma player pay. me that was Neil Smith I know yeah Neil. was like that's my man and that that's. when I discovered I I I learned through. the players what the game really is. right it's a freaking War man it ain't.

no joke you look at Jim we going to talk. about some of the guys that came from. the show Jim and he was as big I mean. the range that he has Ace ventour The. Mask Truman I mean you you look at what. he was they why hasn't he been Liar Liar. why hasn't he been as active recently as. he as he was I only know from my. personal standpoint he's done what he. wanted to do mhm he's he's hit his. Pinnacle he's made as much money as he.

can make or whatever right I just know. him as a person right you want one of my. best friends right and um he just wants. to become a better person and do better. things he has he has he about him what's. going on he's a tremendous motivational. speak yeah it's it's about what's going. on on him in the inside because he knows. that those outside things aren't going. to fix you right so he strives to to. just stay on what got him there right. you know knowledge of his family where. grew up you know just just all of that. stuff that counts right you know when I.

got into some of my final not final. interviews but later when I had. established myself I would have people. ask me you know what was your greatest. accomplishment and I start naming. projects now I just say uh my greatest. accomplishment was being Barbara. Davidson's youngest son. Tommy wow cuz that meant something right. you know my mother was the kind of woman. that would like you know we was on. welfare right you know and and um. you. know you know we coming up we coming up.

the stairs with groceries you know and. she would start giving the little kids. food man right so some of them were so. small they can only carry one carton of. milk right you know and I used to say. what are you doing I used to think she. was crazy and she get up in my face too. you mean what am I doing I'm doing. it ask me what I'm doing you got. everything you need I was like yes. ma'am. okay I'm proud to be her son right cuz I.

still have that in me she was trying to. show me right the universal law of. exchange right that if you give you'll. always have right a close hand can't. receive or give right so she taught me. that and I realized that that's my. greatest accomplishment right now I can. get an. iron you know statue statue yeah i' I'd. like to have one you know without the. smack and without the digam smack yeah. no one call it diam smack huh you almost. got one though yeah I almost got one.

yeah before you let him in before hey. hey I I was going to bring that up but. you what you try to do is this club sh. yeah it is all right it's Club sh we. talking we telling he at the Laker gam. what y'all going to do 11 dude you know. what I mean 11 hold on I'm like hold I'm. like trying to forget man that that. that's South Carolina okay that's a long. story South Carolina are you kidding me. so he he at the at the edge of the Court. going what what which one of y'all want.

something it's like I'm like it ain't. one of them it's a it's a whole it's a. whole just really quick about South. Carolina okay and I leave it alone I'm. from Georgia huh I I didn't know you was. from Georgia I thought you from South no. my brother went to South Carolina okay. no y'all want from South Carolina okay. then I ain't going to talk about it okay. we're going to put that back there okay. but I heard that there were more players. in the league from South Carolina than. anywhere no I don't think so probably. Texas California Florida Georgia we in. there though okay skip what you what no.

no I do it but it's like I forgot what I. was saying where was I oh oh that uh uh. trigger me again Jim Cary. and you see these grades right here I. got a few myself M well you forgot to. die before you came in today you you. want to look young yeah that's why I put. this on it it it it it kind of balances. out you know if I don't wear this and I. wear a white T-shirt t-shirt you'll be. going we're doing a show with. Bentley tonight cookie what is his name.

the old dude did the cookies oh oh oh. Amos yeah yeah your famous we got Dick. Gregory so so but you were saying about. Jim right that's when I realized you. know um that this wasn't about as much. right you know me and Jim me and um um. will had to run in yeah you you try to. put it. yeah. yeah yeah yeah I didn't find out that.

for 15 years cuz he never told me that. see he came into the he came into the. trailer and I was sitting down right. he's standing over me like this and he's. like I appreciate that man I appreciate. that and I'm like well what you talking. about I always know to play it off right. you know what I mean it's tone well I'm. sitting down hold on this was 15 years. later or was it no this was and then I. didn't find out why I was asking him why. then but he wouldn't say nothing right.

right I'm going what's going on man tell. me what's happening man and since he was. standing yeah and I was sitting I a real. nice. fell I mean that that's that's about. physics right right so I'm like you know. oh man what's going on man I mean hey. man he's like I don't appreciate that. you know what I'm saying and Jay's going. will will I'm saying but I'm I mean what. what's happening man now you tell me. what's happening H H you know when a. dude does. about his bottom Li he about to do. something bad he might do something. right so so I'm like you know I did the.

I did the whole you remember the snake I. did the snake well well what you know. and got up right and then I was like you. know so what are you talking about man. and I was still in that posture so you. didn't really know what he was actually. talking about I didn't but I know what. he was doing right so I was like come on. man I mean what's up just tell me what's. up right yeah yeah you know what's up. you know what's up so finally I just. said this is a small place and people. are here here you want we should talk. about it right me and you outside cuz it. look like you going to need to get.

something off your chest right and then. J was like oh no no no no y'all no y'all. and I was like what do you mean n y'all. tell. him tell him and that was the end of. that right you see right and I never. knew it wasn't until my book came out. right years later right where I counted. that as one of the things that really. bothered me and hurt me right bad cuz I. didn't know and I look up to him and I. love him to death so you really didn't.

know why he was upset you had no earthly. idea that it was because of an on screen. kiss or attempt to kiss or what was. going on no you know but I ain't know. why when I was taking the subway up with. my cousin up town to the Bronx I didn't. know why when we 14 and and why these 19. 18 20 year olders on the other side of. the trainer looking at us going what hm. M what we'll bust your ass what I ain't.

know that neither right but I still was. like huh right you know waiting for that. damn so how so how so 15 years later how. did you find out this is how I found out. I put it in the book you know and um I. found out about literature you can't put. something in a book about somebody right. unless they sign off on it right oh. right so I was like uhuh you know I want. to put stuff like that in the book. anyway but I was trying to be real. honest about my experiences so I can. show that you can go through anything. and still be successful and still be a.

good person you know what I mean and I I. was able to do that but it's not easy. you know but you can do it right. so I went to his best friend Charlie. Mack you know Charlie Mack I I remember. the song Charlie ma everywhere we go. downtown to a show we have two. Necessities Charlie Mack and the limo. right well that's like Charlie Mack you. going to see him at every game if it's a. Super Bowl it's if it's if it's the. Kentucky Derby you going to see charliee. Mack and that's Will's best friend right. so I called Charlie I said Charlie what.

you think about this he said yeah yeah. yeah you know you know will will cool Co. and J cool too she give me the quote and. I sent it to him and and they'll call. you they call you T I sent it to him. called me him and Jada she said they. said yeah go ahead and put that in there. go ahead and put that and what I put was. that I I that I thought in the book I. thought the only thing that could be.

possible was the producers came to my. trailer right when we were on the last. scene and it was a kissing scene right. and they said the kissing scenes now not. later on tonight we got to do that now. and I said but I haven't rehearsed with. Jada that's the most important rehearsal. that you can ever have right LPS on a. female on screen right and so and I was. like we never got a chance to work that. out you can make it look real if she. working with you and everything right. without kissing right right and so I.

said I can't do that I'm not doing that. I'm not doing it they said well we'll. ask her so they went and came back she. said just go for it and even then I was. like I ain't just going to go for it you. know but I know I have to make it look. real right so I'm trying to make it look. real and she's kind of uncomfortable. about it right you know but we got. through it and you never could tell. right that's all I wanted right right. was was to get it to play into the film. right that's all we wanted right right. you know you at te one wrong block right. I mean y'all you know it ain't like the.

receivers out here all the glory all is. blocking you know what I mean so you got. to do it right right so I got it in. there and so they called me and said hey. that is what. happened wow yeah and I didn't find out. for that long it was more than 15 years. that was about back in 2000 right so. it's more than that long right so I saw. that side. you know and there's nothing you can do.

in certain circumstances as far as I'm. concerned right the way that I um grew. up and saw things right you know I made. a a a good observation after trial by. ass whipping right right okay right when. emotions is high common sense is at all. time low. yeah common sense is at all time low and. how low can you go right you see what I. mean yes so knowing that fact and just. sticking on to to what I learned when I.

was a little kid you know my my my my. brother and sister being white and me. being black wasn't a big deal to me. until I found out I was black I grew up. in on Fort Collins Colorado and Wyoming. okay found him the trash took them. straight out there and I thought we I. was a brown one of whatever we were cuz. I saw litters right so a black hatat can. have a white one a brown one a stacker. one I thought we were born like that. right and I'm a brown one or whatever we. are right well when we got the. DC King had just got shot there were.

riots right and the black kids the next. day were whipping our ass all day and. they were saying get the white cracker. and get the white cracker lover this is. the things I learned right you know and. I was I was going this is stupid so I. went to my mother I said why are they. attacking me saying I like white. crackers are like graham. crackers graham crackers you don't got. to have water with. you just chew them get you the apple. juice and you good white cracker you be. like Sportz in Total.

Recall you know so so right so I found. that out and then that's where the first. time I heard the word you know. okay because we moved to the. suburbs then it was like killed the. and I'm five I'm riding my bike a. whole truck white boys barely getting in. the door people throwing stuff through. the window right this that. so I went to my mom and I said who are. these we got to stay away. from you know talk about you yeah yeah.

and um she told me she said um this one. of her speeches right she told me hey. that's what people our color call people. your color when they don't like them. said what color are you she said we're. white I said no you're beige cuz I. learned my colors from the Crayons right. she said no but that's what we call. ourselves and I said well what does. mean she said well that's what. that's what I mean what is what is white. cracker mean she said um that's what. your your people call our people when.

they don't like them I said well what. color are they she said they're black I. said they're not they're brown right I'm. a brown one and. like that's that's that's where my my my. whole uh as a child that messed me up. for a long time right because I couldn't. believe that I was divided by my loved. ones by the color right and I always. thought that that was stupid right but. it's real right you know it's real it's.

not really real right cuz I am right. about the litters right and I am right. about us right because when we were in. different civilizations and different. colors anytime we would come up on. another civilization that was a. different color the girls would go those. guys look pretty hot and the guys would. go them girls look pretty hot right and. thusly we start mixing right it is the. same thing right you see what I'm saying. take a DNA strand you'll know right that. was cuz we exchange dnas right all right. you know that's more like dnps right.

right you just skip I'm I know but I'm. just I'm talking to him right no I. better stop I'm good so but that but. that was was the The Catalyst and I. think I found my purpose in all that. right you know that's why I feel. comfortable um um saying I'm her. greatest accomplishment because I. believe I was right I think she did that. on purpose right Jamie I read that you. and Jamie didn't always have the. greatest relationship on set mhm.

seemingly you guys did a movie together. did booty call uhhuh so were you able to. what what caused the friction and how. were you able to get past it I got and. shout out to Jamie shout out to Jamie. and and prayers too yeah man get well. soon Jamie I called him like I make it a. practice to be the first person that. call when something like that I called. stero I was one of the first people to. call Ste still actually call me back. said thank you you know what I mean cuz.

we was all like. what you kidding me the number one dude. you know what I mean like never again. like we was like good God but I compared. to you and Derek right you and Derek. Derek Thomas right both of y'all. specimens both of y'all special both. y'all got speed both of y'all can do. what y'all do at the highest level but. on. Sunday we throw that friendship out the. window what way out the window way out. the window because it's a game as long.

as we remember that you know once the. game is over then hey okay cool okay but. sometime we don't remember that right. you know what I mean it takes time and. maturity to get to the point where you. you start seeing it yeah it was a game. that was tied into my career right you. know what I mean so we had our we had. our back and forth you know we we had. our negative negative clashes you know. um one of the things I observed. about. uh what Hollywood personalities.

sometimes experiences an uh uh inflated. sense of self okay and are engaged in uh. an. extreme amount of negative competitiv. ISM you put those things. together and gee you. know you know look what what happens and. I ain't got to point it out you can see. it in every every aspect of what we do.

you know right but love that guy um he's. like the funniest dude ever you know. yeah little jealous at times CU he's so. sweet with it he's sweet with it man he. the way he sing you know I'm like very. talented I'm like man sing can play the. piano man obviously have commic chop oh. man has range range did that Ray thing. yeah he did ra oh yeah he did he did. when he was in the movie with Tom Cruz. yeah man uh he was the cact Cal driver.

yeah all the stuff that he's did is is. lovely and I'm a. human I want to do that too right you. see somebody hoing it right right you. want to hoist it right right that's just. natural good friend of mine told me. that's natural to do that because it's. natural to want something that somebody. else has you know what I mean but just. because I want because cuz I want to. have it that doesn't mean I don't want. you to have. it I I just see you you got it and I.

feel comfortable that I can get it. that's what I was going to say he said. the worst thing is when you don't want. something for somebody else right yeah. yeah yeah no so that that propensity. that's in me right I have to find ways. to see it straight and balance so I got. asked by TMZ one time right they came to. me and it was totally right you know. Jamie's Jamie's kicking ass man he just. finished uh uh uh uh uh Sunday the one. with Sunday that that movie and this and. that no the Any Given Sunday Su he's.

over here he's doing that he's doing. that and doing this man he's doing all. these things man you know how do you. feel about that and I said I. said I beat him in ping. pong 70 nothing skunk right and he put. the paddle down he want to go no more. right and I played and I lost him lost. him lost him lost him lost him two. seasons in a row right over Time. pingpong games finally I got my touch. now or you got your touch WAP skunk.

let's go again down you see what I'm. saying it's like as as silly as that but. real as that you know what does it. really mean right you know if if I was. if I was to. um judge My Success on somebody else's. success I sure am looking at my. blessings limited right yes. yes you know what I mean I do I do know. exactly what you mean yeah because just. like and my thing is is that I hate I.

hate when people say he or she didn't. deserve that M who are you to say God. made a mistake with my. blessing yeah you've heard that yeah of. course I have of course I have but I'm. going talk about a transformation I. think you made okay I think. somewhere. between that last Super Bowl and the. next One MH. you made a decision and it was I think. it was a good one but I'm not sure you. said football's.

over and I'm going to. do me. now and the only re the only way I saw. that was I saw a commercial MH on the. Super Bowl and I was like shocked it was. like about an investment company or. something yes yeah yes Charles S but you. had the dialogue down it's some stuff I. can't even hardly say you know yeah that. because you got 3% you got 3% this and. that that that and the other thing and. you had your helmet on how do how do you. PR ratio I'm like.

I you know and then watched it right and. watched it and watched it grow I thought. that that was a period. right between the that last one. right what do you think I remember doing. the commercial um and you know they did. let me ad live they let my personality. and I you know when you and you doing it. I mean I'm not thinking that I'm like. I'm just do thing and I just remember. the producer and the director and. everybody said man that was unbeliev you. unbelievable job you don't realize how.

good you did and then when the. commercial actually came out and to have. people say that I did a good job and. then people you know I'd walk by and. people say shanon do you know how to. calculate a p PE ratio and that it kind. of like okay yeah I might I might I. might can do something like this yeah. you did it you know where we at I mean. it's just it's our our internal. calculators add up our own stuff from. internal experiences you know me so I. saw it like that right you know um and I.

just think it's it's you know for me. it's It's a Wonderful World cuz I'm here. right you know it ain't no guarantee. right you know. um a lot of beautiful great things. happened like the Denver years for me. yeah cuz Not only was I invited by one. of my best friends to give the ring. ceremony I did it twice right I know had. I known you as a Minnesota Bing fan. I block that one they are they are no. but they became my favorite team for a. couple years they did how can you not.

you did how can you you you r a lot. listen I'm in I'm I'm in the booth with. bowling right right meatballs on request. right yeah I'm seeing one of the. cheerleaders I'm in there with her. parents in Pat's. boof they calling me uh Neil calling me. chicken he called me uh at yeah you know. you going to be you going to be the. money night game with. Oakland right come. on on the field right yeah so you know.

those were my NFL years right but I. learned something too what' you learn. um that the the the game doesn't stop on. Sunday it it stops on. Tuesday because y'all go straight from. there MH early morning straight to the. gym I was like how why they resting mhm. you know and and um Marcus Allen taught. me this Marcus said well this is a work.

down right you know you can't be up that. far and then let all that stuff you beat. them pulled something right so they work. you work it back up right and then you. rest it right so it can get in place. right you know what I mean working and. working on stuff working on film all of. that right and then Tuesday you you know. what I mean yeah I mean I mean I was so. I remember we played mik the Dolphins on. a Monday night and we ended up you know. getting back I think we arrived back by. the time we got to the plane and got. back M I think it was probably 6:30 7:00.

and so it's already Tuesday and I. normally come in on Tuesday anyway okay. so I just changed worked out and then. went home okay okay that's how focused I. was hold. on I know about Georgia. [Laughter]. Boys Willie G yeah yeah Willie from. Griffin F his. brother who fridge and his brother oh no. no they from Aken South Carolina okay. see I'm getting.

it I thought I was a neologist I got. some more I got some I got some more. Willie G uh herel Walker George Rogers. um those are the guys that you would. know obviously cam is from Georgia Champ. Bailey is from Georgia question where. Dale Carter from Dale Carter is from uh. he's from Georgia where did D. play I don't know I don't know where DC. played. at where did DC Georgia though yeah he. he from Georgia tell me he wasn't the.

cold a shutdown yeah I meanest shutdowns. in the league man I don't know what now. you Dale love. Dale I don't know I don't know I think. Dale and Dale I think Dale is one of one. of the best man yeah him and everon. walls boy anyway okay when when you. doing that you see JLo she starts as a. Fly Girl and now she's one of the. biggest stars all did you did you did. you could you project could you see that. Jim and Jamie and JLo and and John le. was could you could you forell that they.

were going to be. that yeah yeah I could because because I. know that anything is possible in that. business if you're talented right you. know but it's it's the other stuff that. has to line up right it has to line up. right right you know what I mean right. you know there's there's all these. industries there's publicity right. there's the agent industry right there's. a management industry there's the. studios there's the networks there's all. this stuff that you know you got to do.

right line it up it you got to do right. and the next step and the next step and. the next step to get to that point so. it's possible to do right you know it's. possible because you can navigate it. it's persistence and all that good stuff. right right. but I never knew that some of them would. stop talking to me when they got to that. point oh man see sor so I never knew. that cuz I was always curious right you. know how you did it man a study you know. like so you had the numbers when you was.

on working on Living Color and then all. of a sudden it become something else and. now all of a sudden. it you call is no. longer all. them all on but her I was like you know. oh um um I remember seeing her right and. this ain't no uh JLo Bastion cuz he. crazy talented right come on right can't. put nothing on and she's a great actress. too right you know but but um we used to. hang out with with me her my ex we used.

to go to dinner together you know and I. met her with Keenan at strictly business. right cuz he brought her in my trailer I. was doing a movie and I was like what is. that right right right and then she. showed up to be a fly girl and she. worked her ass off right she worked her. ass off she was every day and she was. messing around with scripts I was like. this girl going to be something and she. was so I saw her at the up fronts um it. was me and Danny DeVito mhm and he's. said there's there's there's Jennifer.

Lopez over there you know her right I'm. like yeah I know her so I go over there. I'm like what's up girl. shoot man you blew what what is going on. she was like. hey I like so what's going on what's. going on you know just living life you. know getting some little carrot dip I'm. going you know what's in that carrot dip. you know because she show dip in my ass. you know what I mean right and so so. that happened once and then um I was on.

a face break I had to look around and. see if anybody saw that you know did. anybody just see her put a hatchet. through my forehead right like hey you. know and so um we had the same manager. at the same time so I just avoided her. because you never know what someone's. going through that day I could be. misreading it right you know I always. got to get the love but that but that's. from my profile right from being the. black and between the white and all that. so I'm needy in that way I can admit. that right but I do love love right well.

she might be listen you can only judge a. person by the experience that you had. with same person she might be she might. be a great person to to CJ and my. Hollywood and all my my guy Jordan but. your experience in that moment was not. love was not great right and so I gave. it some time and stuff and I I never. blame the person right you know I just. try to try to work with myself you know. how could she hate you you're you know I. had to work on that and so she we had.

the same um manager at one time right. and she was doing a video up in up in um. J in the block Jenny Jenny jny from the. block block block block block block. right that one and so um he said why. don't you go and visit her on the set. man she would love to see you and I was. like n that's all right that's all right. man he's like no man come on man this is. you come on man I was like nah that's. all right man that's all right cuz one. time is enough for me right you know I. don't got to steal another base if if.

it's w one and out hey I'll get I I'll. wait till the next up right. so I go down on the. platform and there she is you know uh. and I tell you the only thing that saved. me um I walked down the platform and she. was looking at the at the at the screens. with all the rest of the dancers you. know. and um Benny's all proud that he's. standing with me you know Ben Meda. correct yeah yeah yeah yeah yeah um he.

put the last name on that okay all right. um um. so him man you know what I'm saying uh. uh uh so I get down to the to the end of. the thing and I look at her and Benny's. going come on man let her know you here. man I'm like all right man and I go. Jennifer what's up and she. goes. hey so that was like the last you know I. don't know how she's going to be when I. see her next but the next time I saw her. I avoided her right cuz I don't like.

feeling that way right I don't want to. be around anybody yeah who makes me feel. like not I'm I'm not I'm less than. because you going to make me feel like I. ain't. important you know I worked at a. hospital when I was 15 and everybody. that worked there was black and were in. the Korean War all of them were veterans. you know and they taught me everything. right they taught me everything about. cooking everything about life you know. just imagine if they were like that to. me you know what I mean right I mean.

imagine that right you know my math. teacher uh uh Miss Coleman Jewish woman. lived down the street from the. elementary school and I couldn't get my. math right she was like a substitute. teacher and she said why don't you come. over to my house so I go over to the. house after school and she would work. with me on math and work with me on math. and work I was never that great in math. but I had more confidence about doing it. right would happen if she hey right you. know so I just remember those things.

right and that's just me as an. individual that's all that's just what. makes the furnace in me run right you. know and I Delight in that people come. to me and say man you came to you came. to. Afghanistan and and and I look at this. this the picture you know what I mean. yeah we were at your show in Kansas City. man and my grandmother came man you took. some pictures of her and everything man. she gone now man but let me tell you. something appreciate that that was one. of her her greatest moments when I look.

when you look back at you look at the. 90s ' 90s might have been the. greatest maybe the 70s because they have. some some show but the 90s with Martin. and living single and uh Living Color. will we ever see black TV again like we. saw in the. 90s I don't think so but we'll see black. TV TV yeah you know it won't be the same. sensibilities right you know um you see.

black TV now you know see a bunch of. rich black chicks with Range Rovers. having a a beautiful cocktail right with. Gucci purses and and we talking about. the housewives I ain't talking about. nothing I'm just saying I'm just. asking I'm just saying you see shows. like this and and so here you are and. they're there and they got it all you. know the American dream and but yet it's. like I slap your head off you know. yeah you know what I mean uh we we'll. see we'll see a um a miniseries that's a.

great one it's a drama and it's the. whole thing you know but but you you. know you'll see somebody's gun the the. the the the the muzzle of the gum in. someone's nose you know you going to. give me that now you you going to give. it to me now give it to me you know. sorry about that. right you know yeah that's what I I'm. seeing I'm seeing a lot of that whereas. back then no living single no Martin you.

were well these shows were about about. uh what the love the Love About Us yeah. the love about the love about blacks and. how we are right you know we got to be. loving and caring uh based on the. atmosphere right we were all we had you. see right we were all we had so and we. were up against every odd you can. imagine mhm we have no work incentive. right you know y'all lazy well what you. going to pay me you know what I mean. well if I'm lazy why you sit up on the.

porch with men julip and we out here. picking right how do I get your trait. and I do your work right you see what. I'm saying so we live through all of. that and are able to laugh and have joy. right because that's our survival but. that's also who we really are right the. first to forgive right you know you you. know you you if you if if a black if a. white person came to a black church they. leave there Sanctified and full of food. you know you might go to White Church.

and be like I don't know if I want to. step in there right you know what I mean. it's nothing about the people itself. it's just a certain spiritual aspect. about us that came out of that tragedy. right that's beautiful right you know. what I mean so I love to see see uh. different manifestations of that right. so Martin this couple that was trying to. make their way in the world man that was. awesome you know Liv single these black. women who are like best friends making. their way in the world right you know so. and what do we need most we need help.

making our way in this world right you. know we know what the world is you know. you got somebody shooting up kids in the. school can't do nothing about it because. nobody will get them from stop selling. Dr you know all the stuff that we we see. but somehow there's this this this. membrane that keeps us all together. right you know right mhm you were in cv4. with Chris Rock what's your relationship. with rock that's my man that's we we why.

man we've been buddies for so far back. we were the first ones here in Hollywood. right it was me rock and Martin right we. were the young ones right we were the. Young Guns coming in here did you reach. out to Rock when he went through that. episode with Will Smith I did but he. didn't call me back though but he. finally called me back right you. know you know you probably want to know. what he was going through so I was like. the first thing I thought about was his. mama I said man she about to kill. somebody right now you know but you're.

not surprised that he reacted the way. that he did no when Chris said what he. said right do you think did you think it. warranted. that no but I ain't him okay you know. right I kind of looked at what he was up. against M as him about what I know about. him right right you. know but you said that day he might have. just been having a bad day that might. not be the person that he is but that.

was the person that he was that day I. think it was. fear fear can do some things when. emotions is high common sense it all. time low right this is the first time. that they actually even acknowledged me. to get Oscar right this is the one I did. my best job at right right I've been on. social media trying to be cool through. this whole thing that's happening with. me and my wife I don't got to go into. specifics if anybody had a camera come.

in their house with them and their wife. or them them as a marriage they would. burn their house down to keep you out of. there right because some things ain't. Nobody Business correct so he's dealing. with that and balancing his whole his. whole Persona he is Will Smith right he. a't never going to stop he always going. to be the best and and to me he's a. winner. you know and we do do any of us have to. have moments yes yeah that's why the. dude wrote and sand to let the first.

ones throw the stone without the sin. yeah we've all had moment you know if if. the whole world was ey for ey we all be. sitting here going hey give me some. water you know and so I just thought it. was fear but that's just my take mhm. because it was all on the. line it was all on the line is like the. it was getting really hot right you know. a person jumps out of the World Trade. Center at the 118th floor right and and. you go why would they do that because. the pain got so intense right they. didn't care they just went really fast.

right you know and I thought that that's. what really happened was that he just. was extremely frightened about not. getting in what people think they. already thinking this you know and um he. I don't say I wouldn't say he was wrong. for being fearful you. know correct wrong for Rob for busting. somebody in the mouth right that ain't. did nothing to you right you know J J. you can't put it on that no no no no no.

but but her she I heard I read when she. cut filming short so you could actually. talk to your birth mom oh yeah they're. good. friends how did J okay Jad from that. Jaden from Baltimore like one of my best. friends yeah you know we real real tight. right and she saw that something was. wrong with me one day I don't know how. you know how you know people yeah yes. yes and so we about to do the scene and. I'm laughing and joking she said what's. wrong with you I said what you talking.

about man go ahead girl and she said. something's wrong with you what's going. on right I'm like what you talking about. what's going on she said something's. wrong she said come here what's. happening with you I'm like girl what. are you talking about I said I just met. my real mother for the first time wow. she said that's it you guys that's a. wrap for the day go deal with with that. man you can't be exposed to that right. now and be normal under no. circumstances go deal with that so what.

was the conversation like with your so. how long cuz you had never met your. birth mother never and so how old were. you when this happened I think I was. probably about 34 so you have a. conversation with your birth mother how. did that how did so what how did that. conversation start it was hard cuz she's. like hi baby and just said like this. ain't my mother right you know and. instinctively right in my gut you ain't. my mom right you know what I mean and so. we talked and it was really just kind of. a kind of a how's the sunshine and that.

kind of thing right it's really good to. meet you you know and she's like. likewise you know stay in touch in that. thing did you uh yeah I did but I went. through a lot over that right because it. triggered some stuff in me that was from. so far back right as long as I wasn't. exposed to her I never would have start. experiencing the things I experienced. inside I started really experiencing.

like like you you an anxiety man like. like low low low sadness and and and. anxiety and like I started feeling. really crappy and um and um I didn't. expect it either cuz my mom never told. me she was going to do that right my mom. just said I got your mom on the phone. your real mom and I found her randomly. and the dad base cuz she worked at um. Housing and Urban Development right so. she saw her name and she said this can't. be her and it was her right you want to.

talk to her I was like I don't know I. want to set now I I don't know so what. questions did you have did you have why. did you give me up why didn't you keep. me we didn't get to it then it wasn't. until later later you know we did we. actually did therapy together wow you. know and we actually got to the point. where I remember going to visit saw the. whole family so I was filled with joy. just to see people my color right that. look like me look like all my little. kids got the same little nose and.

everything right so that was good to see. but I went over there just to really. visit the family right right and um on. Easter mhm Easter was the day my my. natural brother lost his life okay died. that day right so I was like let me just. go over there give love to that you know. I'm I'm I'm I'm a person of the world. right and so as they were doing the. prayer. she and she's a a Baptist Minister okay. so she goes around the country you know. doing that and so she's going to say the.

prayers and during the prayers she. started saying uh Tommy was a hard baby. to take care of he had weels all over. his body you know and he would bleed. over those and he cry a lot was hard to. take care about and his mother stole her. from him from me and blah blah that's. not the time for right right right so. I'm there sorry to hear that Tommy yeah. man that it hurt but I'm Baba Davidson's. son. now right so I just said took a deep.

breath and I I took over I said you guys. I I don't I don't think today is about. that right you know that was so long ago. and the world was so different back then. you know I'm the person that I am now. you know and and um who stole who from. it doesn't even matter it's it's it's. it's a it's a a miracle really cuz here. I am right part of both of y'all you see. what I mean right and um this is the day. that we should be thinking about our man. right his homeo right and and after they.

dropped hands I was like I looked at my. nephew who I love so much and my bigger. brother who remembered me being left my. only two only the two oldest ones. remember me right the rest of them are. like you mean my brothers on Living. Color you crazy right they were crying. like oh man it's so good to see you. when I first met him and it was on. Christmas my brother like a big brother. could do you know this he walked me to. the elevator he told me look at.

me right here I'm your. brother your big brother here and I was. like yeah. okay wow you know M that's the. reassurance that's one of them things. that you got to you got to give them. that you're ain't going right you see. what I mean right and he meant it right. and I left out of there and then one of. her sisters one of my mother's sisters.

stopped me at the stairs and said good. for you good for you somebody need to. tell her something you know I said Thank. you and then we left and then my my. nephew turned to me as we were driving. he said you know what Tommy I think what. happened just now is probably the best. thing that ever happened to my. family you know and I was able to. convince her to come to therapy mhm you. know with my. mother and we did it and that's when it. all came out right she was there in that. kind of denial and it was a family.

session right so all families talk about. their issues and then they have a group. of people that trust each other give. feedback on what they heard she was. trying to place the blame someone else. other than where BL been placed right. and everybody saying Tommy I'm named. after her she a country girl Tommy Jean. right so my mother gave me her name. right right and and everybody was saying. hey you know it sounds like you're. blaming on them and then that's what it. sounds like and all of them had feedback. right so when it came back to her it was. like it was something to watch wow she.

start trembling. mhm and she like went into like. a like a seizure like you know and she. was on herself and threw up and all that. stuff and then um they came back and got. her together and she came back to the. room and she told me what happened wow. she said I was scared she said I was 19. I already had four kids wow I was seeing.

a guy who was 50 something who already. had a family and he was rich he was rich. in country terms cuz I'm from Greenville. Mississippi oh okay so if you if you're. Undertaker you know you up with the you. know what I mean yeah so I was his chick. on the side you know and plus I got I. got strung out on heroin mhm so I the. streets I had the kids and I was losing. it man and I got scared I got an. opportunity to go to Detroit or to move.

the kids to to um. Milwaukee I just left you I just put it. out of my mind you know she was crying. hysterically and then I saw her in that. in that. state and I was able to forgive. her W cuz I saw her. right but you dealt with some issues of. your own mhm mhm did that traumatic. experience play a role in what you ended. up having to deal with and what you had. to overcome I think it was all of it it.

was it was it was all of it it was just. my life up to that point you know and it. was a me to be Pro process that I had to. go. through you know to get to know God a. little bit better and get to know what. his intention was for me okay you know I. I was um going through like like the the. the the bottom you know and I had dealt. with everything drugs drink all of it.

and I was in my in my bedroom by. myself in the dark all my good friends. were like gone like we can't we can't. watch this right so my friend God bless. him and his family Major Brown uh from. to they from Tulsa Oklahoma I never seen. no black folks like that ever I never. see I never met black black people from. South mhm y'all were Revelation to me y. y'all a whole different thing man so. they sent me a prayer I tell you how. different y'all major went I went to V.

visit his his family and his grandmother. answered the door right and she about 90. she opened the door and she said to him. give it to me I like huh she said give. it to me and he standing. there she said come on give it to me and. he did his Easter recital word for word. you know it's a different thing you know.

so they sent me a prayer. cloth right mm from the whole family. prayed on it you know and I put it. between my Bible and I was like yeah man. you know the works I guess of whatever. right right and then a sister called me. Bing and I picked up the phone and she. said you know what Tom. she said sometimes we just have to. hang we have to hang in there mhm we got. to hang like he did in.

pain and have faith that it's going to. pass right she said you think that felt. good one here one here one here and he's. yeah and his body weight is only holding. him crucifix on his head you think that. felt good crown of Thrones on his head. right even he doubted it even at a point. he was saying what the hell. right but that Faith right right she. said sometime we just got to hang in. that. pain and I hung at it how hard was it. look I'm a firm believer it's a lot.

easier going through something in. private you a public person and you're. going through your addictions a public. figure in a public way MH did it make it. more difficult did it make you ashamed. did it make you withdraw. MH actually in ways it did but it didn't. because I got to the the point where it. didn't matter it wasn't about that it. was about me right it was about me being. alive right and me being able to uh.

enjoy what life has to give me right cuz. I really didn't know right my auntie. told me you ain't know no better you. know right I remember going to her when. I had a year so but she I said AE I got. a year so but she said now don't you. feel better I said yeah I feel better. she said that's all that matter is that. you feel better then she said I got to. go to the store you know right so it was. like one of those things. where I had. to dig in and do the.

work so I can keep the life I have but I. had to realize that it was good in the. first place right you know and there was. a lot of stuff shrouding that stuff. right that's why I wrote the book I. wrote the book because if I can do. it others can also then others can and. if I be specific that's why don't go. into specific that's why I got my book. because it's a one-on-one experience. when you read it so you can get to and I. also did the voiceover right so you can. really.

hear one on-one you know. and that was my gift back to the good. universe and to the God I know and to. all the love that I got from all the. people right you know that didn't even. know. me you know when I lived in the when I. when I lived in the um Midwest when I. was a kid I never heard word from. no white. person white person white people ain't. the same they all don't think the same. they all don't hate us I'm I don't care.

what nobody says I'm speaking from my. experience that's all you can speak from. right how can I become me and not know. that as a fact right right right. so it just became a very important book. for me because I realized that I can. take all those experiences that I went. that I paid forh through through sadness. through Despair and all of that all of. that M and let me put it in a book that.

they can. grab and go through and maybe they can. compare what they're going through with. what I was going through like I did with. books right like I did with stuff people. gave me let me pass it on right let me. pass it. on Mount Rushmore who's your Mt Rushmore. comedians. um me no um um um um um it was it.

prior. Eddie. Cosby Fox J uh uh uh red or Jamie red. okay um we talking about stand up yeah. okay stand up. comedy. um I'm gonna forget his name um prior. Fox red red no prior Fox Cosby red um um. um red fox is the same person yeah yeah.

okay well I you know Richard Pryor yeah. red fox Bill Cosby you got one more I. get one more yeah that's that's M. Rushmore you got four heads on M. Rushmore I give five uh no not a bonus. okay no skip no I'm just kidding. um skip will give me no. no man sit. down you. in tian's be holding too you just can't.

see it uh uh uh so so. um Bernie I'mma have to say George. Carlin I'm might have to throw him in. there I thought you was gonna go. Chappelle oh man but that's my. contemporary so you know what that's the. exact same thing smooth said yeah I had. JB smooth then you said man it's great. as Chappelle live he a contemporary I. can't put him up there yeah yeah it's. not it's not like but I put him up there.

cuz I don't understand that boy I don't. understand him you know I'm sweating by. the end of the show because that's my. the way I do shows right he can stand. there and smoke a cigarette yeah you. know it's something about him and the. times that we're in right where he's. able. to make everybody laugh during these. circumstances right and that got to take. a genius yeah you know he grew up in my.

neighborhood my neighborhood yeah he. used to be scared of us right like even. still today he be I'm like that a long. time ago man right you know what I mean. like you know we always different um but. it's just the amazing things that he can. do right he can say some things that. nobody can say he tell a story man he. could tell no one can say that right and. he make you know saying I guess there's. truth that you know there's truth in. comedy and he can tell he can tell a. story truthfully and make it funny no he.

looks like schmeel I'm just kidding but. but I'm just saying I'm a big Lord of. the Ring that's along right has nothing. to do with anyway I like the name smigle. anyway so so so um he's a he's a genius. and all of them is right man every time. I say I'm the best I look at somebody. and go well you know you know hey you. got some more work to do still still you. know because it's a process right right.

you add things on you know and you can. always have room for growth well I'm. discoun your what you call him cuz uh. Murphy better be on my Rushmore too I. put him didn't I no I put Eddie. first prior check the tapes did he put B. no didn't I say Eddie first no. I meant to say Eddie first though no you. you must be talking about Eddie has I. must I meant to say Eddie first though. no you didn't skip no no okay okay.

okay hey I'm going get you out you got a. few more all right P did was your sister. mhm what kind of sist was P dadd because. you remember he had that uh he had that. reality show and he treding to find a. sister he wor he wor dog work the dog at. up man um you working nah N I did how. you let him out the hood I didn't have. to I didn't to he was a hard worker okay. he was smart as a whip he there for. everything I need we was out every night. in New York he took me to every club and. I knew he was going to be something but.

I didn't KN it was going to be like that. now yeah I knew he was that boy was. smart first thing he said to me was you. got we get rid of this widow's peak and. I was like I ain't getting rid of no. Widow Peak he said but when it get on. the big screen it's going to look big I. said man this is mine this is way I do. my thing man Strictly Business came on. and I seen it I look like a. vampire. with a shark fin yeah okay and I was. like damn if he was right man you know. he was sharp um and he a cool kid a cool.

kid straight up yeah I saw him um. um bust one of the one of the um big. Union dudes in the face right you know. because the union dude was up on him. right he tried to warn him so I'm just. dropping his bags off you got to get. that out of here you know I'm just. trying to I'm his assistant I'm trying. to drop his bag off he said get it out. of here and get it out of here now he. said well why am I how am I going to put. it to and the big dude lunge and he B.

caught him with the corner of the corner. corner corner in the corner corner. corner opened him up yeah in the corner. was like you know you know it's like. Denzel when he was getting whipped you. know in. glory and the terror came out that side. you know what I mean right yeah and um. um he was calling around and he called. me and said I can't get out and I said I. come down there and I just tried my my. influence and my my my name and all that.

they said they let him out on his. personal recognizance and that's one. person they never forgot me never we. still we still like that wow you know. he's shorter than me cuz I'm older than. him right you know what I mean but. shorty man he's he's gone to a whole. another level I wish I could talk to him. sometime right I wish we had that that. that cuz I can help him too I think. right you know but I think I can help. everybody but I wish I had an. opportunity to do that but I do right I.

just can't choose who I'm going do it. with right anything you like to promote. I know you're a musician but you got a. website I got a website what is it I. don't know I'm asking you it's your. website the Tommy Davidson my website is. the Tommy davidson.com what the tom.com. as a matter of fact so what is the. website what are you doing on the. website everywhere you can get me. everywhere you can get my music you can. get my tour okay you can get Clips right. I got a tie line we've been meeting to. bring you that ever since you got on TV. okay we got to send you some okay um.

everything that I've done sketches right. you know everything about me you can and. it'll take you to it'll take you. straight to Tik Tok okay straight to. Instagram it's like my Central Central. place you know and I've just been. blessed you know I got I got a a new. single out I know it's called I know my. new song I know with Richard Elliott. right I broke it into smooth Jaz who. knows where I'm going to go next you. know I've been able to get into the. smooth jazz industry as a singer right. when I saw Jamie as a. singer I was like okay that's good cuz.

he broke it in but I wanted to do that. right but I had to find the right lane. for me right right right like what does. a coach bring to your to your teams they. bring their philosophy right right how. they work it right right and then you. guys kind of shape it with what y'all do. right you know when we did this at this. school or whatever they could modify it. and not be too too rigid right that no. that's what we doing and how many. coaches have we seen yes gone because of. that this is the system that I run. system exactly so that's kind of how how.

I looked at music where can I be most. successful now where can I have it be. something genuine you know and real. about me with the music right and how. can I help The. Listener okay you know when I see our. kids listening to what's on what's going. on in radio now right I don't really see. a lot of stuff that can really help them. right grow and be and be much much. stronger right you know spiritually. stronger mentally stronger right um I.

just don't see that happening in the. music that's coming out of them you know. I'm going to do the music that's natural. to me right and just let it be right you. know I'm going just stay in my Lane. right and just do what I do and just let. it kind of flower from there because. I've been a musician and a singer since. I was a little kid right right you know. and so I'm just I'm do like plexo did. plexico uh uh they had him in an. interview right right all right plexico.

you you you shot yourself in the in the. leg you were in jail you know a whole. year off you hear in the Super Bowl you. catch the clutch catch to close this. thing out what what what do you what do. you what do you test for that he said I. just asked God this. morning if you just get me to the field. I'll appreciate just that Ray Ray you. were up for a drug I mean the shootings. you about to go to jail it's a whole.

season the Patriots put up a thing this. your your party you end up getting MVP. in the big old dancing. hoiston what do you attest to that he. said well I knew God wouldn't put me. through such a trial unless there was a. Triumph behind it I got brand new ears. where I can hear right I can hear it the. alanan won the National Championship. right and they were the last seed and. all this and they asked them you know.

how did you do this and they said we. went this season by faith and not by. sight you know and these are principles. that that I think are important for me. right but this is my Society too right. right just because I'm African just my. I'm cultural culturally African and I'm. afan American here doesn't mean I'm. outside of humanity right I'm a part of. humanity too right so why can't I speak. on all our.

behalf everybody else do right exactly I. got I got some input right and it's. valid right you know if I wasn't worth. nothing they wouldn't have brought me. over. here there you go we got it done man we. got it done that was years are passing. each other man years thank you man thank. you for letting me talk man thanks for. sharing your story you got it sh really. appreciate it love sh sh Tommy.

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