Timbaland on Jay-Z & Drake Reaching Out During His Darkest Moments And Working With Missy Elliott

it was a hit and I ain't thinking it was. gonna be a hit with one minute man you. gonna put this out Tim you crazy this. Jam all my girl the girl's going crazy. I'm like yeah I bet that well girl we're. going crazy hell no we didn't like it. but then when it blew up I said that. girl misses she knows and from that. point on you never questioned anything. it was like Game of Thrones yes my queen. all my life. wanna slice got to roll the dice that's. why all my life I'll be grinding all my.

life all my life been running all my. life. [Music]. all my life. hello welcome to another edition of Club. Shay Shay I am your host Shannon sharp. I'm also the proud of club shayshay and. the guy that's stopping by for. conversation and a drink today is a. global icon he has more top 10 hits than. Elvis and The Beatles 21 Grammy. nominations four wins a DJ super. producer rapper songwriter executive.

entrepreneur the Emperor of sound none. other than Timbaland Tim hey bro what's. up bro I'm blessed how you doing I'm. blessed you know what bro when you come. on the show and I have someone to. distinguish this yourself I got to toast. your career yeah and more things to come. appreciate you. Hmm got your bottle. for those out there. you are a cognac drinker this right here.

oh that's Shay Shay. I appreciate that oh [ __ ]. oh yes thanks for stopping by. how you doing I'm great man I'm blessed. I'm blessed you know what let's go back. to the beginning I'm gonna go start back. we'll go all the way back to Virginia I. was reading your story have a you have a. man. you have a very interesting life and you. accomplished some great things but this. almost didn't happen accidentally got.

shot working at Red Lobster. um what transpired how did this event. come about. I was a kid who always just loved music. you know growing from the south. as I look back at it now. we really wasn't you know my parents God. bless them but we really wasn't taught. you know like we can go higher right I. was just a kid who always dreamed so big. and I'm like. I got it this music thing is just on my. heart.

so even when I got shot. I still. it's just I just something I had to do. as a kid right because that was my. calling because I was a dishwasher. working at Red Lobster and music just. called me yeah you get shot of the. dishwasher you in the back. that's a good question but you know how. we young and my homeboy had a gun he. said yo I'ma get you I'm gonna get your. boy imma get your boy still this is the. craziest thing. we it's like a pro a promo for a fight. in house in high school right kids like.

way to the football game I'm gonna get. you right you could have been for two. days earlier right right but they waited. they built this up so my homeboy grabbed. a a a Revival and he he was putting up. in the bag he said wait to the nice game. and as he was putting up in the bag he. said I said man I would turn around and. clock out and I turn around wow and I. walked off and I thought my arm was on. the ground right and I said what my arm. at where my arm I said what am I um what. happened my whole nerve this side got.

paralyzed it was paralyzed for like. about a year two years right and I had. to go to therapy but I'm like yo the. only thing I would think about I'm a DJ. so as you as you're bleeding what's. going through your mind are you thinking. like man man damn I actually dude. accidentally shot me I got so much. because like you said you had dreamed. big yeah you got dreams I got to fulfill. what's going through your mind. about oh they ain't working right so I. said I got to figure this out right so I.

wasn't thinking about even dying okay. you know my parents. that's one thing they stood they stood. strong and the doctors was like telling. them we don't know we don't know I'm. like I know I'm gonna live that's just. that's just the attitude. because I felt like. God wasn't finished with me yet right. and the only thing I was really. concerned about was could I use this arm. again because it was my my Scratch DJ. right and that was the only thing I was. worried about his life going on I'm like. wait a minute can I lift weights can I.

train can I do all of that okay but I I. just constantly believe I think it was. my faith that no I would get better you. know what I'm saying as you see what's. transpired in the RAP Community we see. Pop smoke get run down on we see what. happened to Dolph uh young Dolph we see. some extension we see some of the guys. that have lost their life do you look. back and say damn man I'm very fortunate. because I this thing could have really. ended my life could end up again the. DJing and what I became but my life. could have ended before it got started. you know it's funny like uh it's I'm.

glad you're asking that because I think. I go through some PTSD over that to this. day because when you look at all the. young people dying today. I just break down and thank God and say. you know what is my purpose why am I. here because I do have like some. nightmares of. that gun going off and I still like I. might you might see me jerk a little bit. because it's just a flashback right and. I think it didn't come as my career was. gone it comes like now as you become. older right as it become a man become. reflective exactly and it really like I.

see why people like sometimes go crazy. because the past. catch up with you right and I think I. kind of relive it here and there and I. just be thankful and just just be that's. all you can be but it do put me down. because I'm like I could not have been. here especially when I hear when like. young Dolph and people and it's like. a gunshot is a gunshot right I got shot. right in the net right all I had to do. was turn one simple way. I'd have been out of here but by me. turning slight it goes through here in.

the boot is still in me right and they. couldn't take it out because they're. afraid that they were paralyze the whole. right side right so I just think about. you know now I just be like it'll hit me. just driving in the car and I just. said thank God that I'm still here you. know what I'm saying a lot of guys like. like LeBron all he said all he thought. about was playing basketball he was also. a two sport guy played uh football also. but basketball since his mom gave him I. think he was like four years old getting. that basketball and you heard baseball. players say since my dad gave me a bat a.

glove and it was all about baseball and. guys with football with you you always. had a beat in your head that you like. man this is what I want to do this is. what did you know like okay I'm gonna be. a DJ I'm gonna be a producer so what was. it. I didn't know what I was going to be I. was just letting music guide me okay so. I was a great DJ in high school until. Missy came into my life that's when she. told me that I was a great producer okay. Missy gave me every all the confidence. in the world as she pushed me to be who.

I am today if it wasn't for her. the connection of Friends Meeting. friends from the neighborhood. like-minded people. um connecting us and Missy was like I. was talking the only reason why I. started doing beats is because the music. that people was making I ain't like and. I wanted to blend my beats with like. Stephanie Mills or Michael Jackson Human. Nature and so my mom couldn't afford a. keyboard she brought me this Casio. keyboard that only could sample for one. second and I started asking what can I. do in one second I'm like I said oh if I.

speed wreck it up this way with my hand. not on the 45 when you click it up I saw. I sped it up real fast on that and. slowed it down the last key so I slowed. down time so how did you I mean how did. you know to do that I mean no I mean you. you self-taught no one it's not like you. you classically trained or you went to. Juilliard or you went to some of these. super producers that could tell you this. you you're self-taught. I just now realized that I just like if. there's a will there's a way because.

like I wasn't Smart in school I was like. looking at people I didn't get that. answer but you know from my I believe. that I feel like I had a dyslexia like. but I feel like I got to use my. imperfection to be Perfection so me not. being self-taught it's just called. figuring it out solving the problem. right how do I get one second my mom. can't afford to buy another keyboard I. got to do this music so I just sat there. for weeks and weeks maybe months and. said aha let me slow up time.

speed it up speed up one thing slow down. here yeah slow down. I'm looking at you look at Pharrell. Williams Missy Elliott Cliff Pusha T all. of you guys are Virginia. I mean did you realize like when you're. going through what you're going through. you look back say 25 years ago 30 years. ago did you realize you guys will be now. Pharrell Williams we know what he is in. the music super producer also now he's. the creative director of at uh Louis. Vuitton. did you guys did you know. that you guys would be what you became.

I knew Pharrell would have been great. okay I knew Missy was great I knew we. had something special right I knew all. of us had something special I didn't. know it would go to this point okay I. just know that New York was like the. bubbling State and we wanted to be heard. from Virginia okay and people people was. like yo that Timberland sound I didn't. know I was creating a sound we didn't. know he was creating the sound right. Pharrell didn't always create the sound. we would just like-minded people just. doing great music and Teddy got a hold. of Pharrell first so right right so.

Pharrell was the first one to really. Venture off and really understood the. studio in that real Limelight and then. it was me and Missy and Pharrell kept. telling like Teddy like yo it's his. other group it's this other guy named. Timberland and Missy Elliott that you. need to hear and I guess Missy came up. to the studio with Teddy so she heard. you know and Teddy was doing his thing. with Michael Jackson for real was. helping out but we all kind of knew that. we was destined to be something we just. didn't know what it was and the thing. about it we didn't think like that a lot.

of people today. get caught up into the money to all this. stuff we didn't think like that it was. the getting better to be proven right to. say we made it we gotta put us at the. table give us a seat at the table. because you know New York had it popping. Kid Capri all this and no no music come. out of out of Virginia so our purpose. was give us a seat at the table right we. deserved that we deserve to be heard it. wasn't about making a lot of money it. wasn't about we just know that we had. something special right and it needed to.

be heard and we stuck to it we ended. like we made ways out of no ways you. know what I'm saying we rode in one car. six people you know I'm saying to go to. a studio session everybody chipping for. gas money and it was the love of the. music that kept us that kept us going to. know that we didn't have no money right. music made us feel rich so you wanted to. put you wanted Virginia to be on the map. for music you got has great athletes you. got Allen Iverson Bruce Smith I mean uh. Michael Vick uh uh Sweet Pea Whitaker so. you had the the some some Pantheon.

iconic athletes and they're like but we. ain't got no music let's put Virginia on. the map for music yeah and and I guess. Pharrell was the first one to kind of. bust down the door then came Missy and. Missy came with like uh. that Gina Thompson right then everybody. like who is this girl right then from. there came she she put me on so I was a. part of her. and then when we left Jodeci we was with. Joe to see it right on time and then we.

left Jodeci. and we had this song called Sugar and. Spice me and Missy right and that song. got to Craig Coleman which got to a live. right and Aaliyah said I don't like the. words I don't like the song Sugar and. Spice but I want to work with the people. who did that I want to work with the guy. who did the beat and whoever wrote the. song and from that point on. Virginia sound was on the map how did. you and Missy get started were you. friends before she heard your Beats did. you guys go to school did you go to the.

rival schools how did Missy and. Timberland come to be Missy and. Timberland came to be because uh a. friend of mine named um I think Melvin. Noor which was Magoo that's Magoo okay. Magoo's from Portsmouth Melvin knew. Missy and then this guy named e was. working with Missy was working with the. group Missy was in a group called phase. e okay they the first one to put out a. record from Virginia so they was like. the top nine okay so the message and E. connected say yo you need to meet this. guy named Timberland and he connected as.

it came to my mom house when I stayed in. Virginia Beach Missy. I had I had was doing just beats like. for the play the mix with but Missy. heard the beats and like. no I'm about to sing over this and that. was the first time I got introduced to. okay okay singing over hip hop beats. okay was through Missy right I didn't. know nothing about it I'm like you about. to do what. what and she put them harmonies my life.

changed I was like oh my goodness this. is what I want to do for the rest of my. life and then it's like. she just kept like giving me the. encouragement like how dope he was. because then I had to stop I kind of. stopped DJing and I start focusing on. Beats right so I was like because she. introduced me to Melodies harmonies you. can write songs you don't have to just. rap on these beats right imma write. songs and I was sampling old Patrice. Russians and making them like don't. break beats right and she's like oh we. bout to make this a song and she starts.

singing it writing I was like it was the. first it was it was like what I was. doing elevated to the next level right. and she gave you confidence that you. could do something more than DJ she gave. you confidence more than you can just. produce beats because a lot of times. someone of Missy she's like well let me. go get a more famous producer she took. the local kid from Virginia and says nah. we gonna do this together I'm leaving. and I'm taking you with me that's. exactly how it happened Devonte they met. they met Jodeci at a concert they met.

him backstage. Devonta said y'all want to fly y'all out. the jersey and then Missy said well can. we fly my producer that I got back home. and that was me right but you were the. producers he said yeah so she didn't go. to Devonte she said. I got my own we got a hoe so that's how. I was how much pressure is that because. that's missing she said and they said we. got this producer for you she said nah. but I got my producer back home so now. this is your opportunity you know in in.

the uh Eminem song you get one shot to. seize this moment so now that's a lot of. pressure it was but I wasn't scared of. it because we had a sound right and. Devonte liked. them for my sound right and so by him. being as great as he is. he knew he came in the game with a sound. with his group right so I thank God that. he was like. yo all right he can come up because I.

want to meet that guy who's doing that. and so it kind of worked because I. learned from him he learned from me I. was I we both was young but I was like a. teenager when he was in his 20s so he. was doing his style and I was learning. from him because he was take he took. harmonies and vocals and taught me and. Missy how to really like really expand. this and then my Beats was like. different for him so he was like okay. I'm good at slow song Timbo good at up. tempos and me right so it was a perfect.

marriage you know what I'm saying. I hear you saying that this guy took you. and says okay this is what I do this is. what you do and we mix together and it. seems to me back then you saw a lot of. that is that commonplace now in the game. that guys are willing to work and bring. someone else along or is that a. forgotten art is that a forgotten truth. I think now we have more gatherers than. we ever had because because right now. when I go to studio now everything is on. a computer okay so what I have witnessed. in this generation is you good at it.

he's good at it she's good at it we put. up one computer everybody just come. after each other and add to the same. thing and I was like wow wow wow. look how collaboration has e-born right. it's just everybody said everybody know. how to work the computer everybody work. on the same thing right so everybody. explain it explains displays they give. right. on the computer so now it's more it's a. lot more collaborative collaborating. today than I think it was in our era. okay now missy.

the album you're on us and you're like. okay I got my producer Tim okay you're. in studio. you working on this like are you. thinking like man we about to blow are. you like damn. anxiousness nervousness what's going. what's going through your head when. you're in when you're in the studio with. Messi and you guys are going to come out. with this album man you know what's. going through my hands I got a job okay. I got a job okay I'm popping now right.

you know because all I wanted was three. thousand dollars to help my mama and my. parents you know that's you know I'm. saying that's all that's all you wanted. yeah that's how that's what we come from. you know what I'm saying and I look back. at it it's like wow. those were the good old days of life you. know I'm saying not wanting much and. taking little and making it so much you. know what I'm saying so I was just happy. that we got what we wanted right which. was a deal it wasn't no pressure on the. first album because it was all fun okay.

it was all the rain that was all. they show the people what we got okay. that first album there's no pressure no. pressure it blows up uh-huh this. negative okay fresh now let's talk about. that. that's when Missy took me through the. ringer what. what miss it would make well she always. kind of did but here's what she said oh. this is my sophomore album so she's like. we gotta beat what we did yeah so she. was always like a drill sergeant.

she will make me go through a hundred. Beats before she picked one and she'd be. like Tim that might be dope for Jay-Z or. Ludacris but I gotta dance to it I gotta. see the video I gotta see how my girl's. gonna look so she gave me this whole. story so I was like it made me look at. my Beats different I was like so I. started like is this how the girls gonna. dance. is this sound is she gonna will she go. so she just you know right Missy took. you know she'll make you she'll put you. up here then she'll bring you down but.

that's part of being great you know. everything that we go through like when. we get our professionals y'all once you. go on the door right. you know everybody LeBron you gotta know. how to play with LeBron once you get on. the team right you better know how to. play right so Missy like now we're on. this team right let me show you what. Miss is really about okay the fun is. over now just the Missy that now that. I'm in the door like we're missing you. know. so when he say stuff like that she a.

girl and every time she told me I'd be. like. why you just take me higher your brain. Menlo take behind you bring me low right. but I enjoy that because it made me who. I am today I don't think I would have. all these Jay-Z records all the hits. that I have right if I just settle. she made me not settle right we can be. harder too. we can be Doper. I mean you I mean you look at I mean get. your freak on it work it and her songs. are so catchy and they're so you know.

you dance and and the thing was in the. videos was so futuristic even for way. back then I mean she was way way ahead. of her time as far as videos. and you're like that's you like I mean. do you sit back and like. oh I do it all the time I'd be like I'd. be like. people of around me like you know that's. dope it's like you get that head now you. know you don't say we do that. yeah and when she because she bring it.

to life right she she takes something. that I present to her and she just said. Watch How I made this Blossom right and. she just make it Blossom I'd be like. I just be smiling in the inside like I. don't know how to show it on the outside. but the inside I'll be saying all what. you saying when. first met Missy and you looking at this. very small in stature but a presence is. like. commanding he's a she demands that you. look at her you she demands that you pay.

attention to her did you think this. small small of a woman could be and what. she became and now. as far as songwriting she's in the. songwriting Hall of Fame she's got a. star on the Hollywood Walk of Fame that. that's my girl that's my homie from ba. Missy is like. who is it what's it is it Oprah from. Color Purple yeah that's who Missy is. like Missy is she's a sink she comes. from a single mom okay Missy she always.

had leadership in her okay so when a. person has leadership it's just a matter. how they lead you yeah and Missy was. always a great leader so I I would I'm. not surprised of how big she was because. you couldn't just come nobody I don't. care who you are you can't just say. anything Missy Michigan she gonna. challenge you. and that was a VA thing she was like you. like oh missy we should go on top of the. Moon you can go on the top of the Moon. Missy Ellie ain't going on people be.

like you know you know how this this. world is all the entertainment. she really sticks to how he was raised. in the South and she don't she don't. bend the rude other people could be. going over there missing Missy ain't. going over there she's very Stern. very on point she has sheer will and. she's going to do what she said she's. going to do so she always had that. leadership and that's what I always. admire her about because when I broke.

character she always stayed in character. right so I'm like man. she's amazing this this beat these beats. obviously at the height of the reported. that you was getting 500 000. have you. ever had to tell someone. bro I can't let you get on this one. [Laughter]. unfortunately. nobody.

from our generation I can't do that but. as I started working with a new. generation now I don't say Dave was bad. I think my ears I think. I got old real you know oh this bit like. price is kicking in right because I'm. like because music evolves right but. when it was evolving I stopped evolving. right so when a person got on it. the hell is you saying like you off the. beat right so I had to start adjusting. because I got kid they're like oh dead.

like that's popping I'm saying King on. the beat man right that's not popular. right. then I started saying okay music don't. let me down because you you you you you. you leveled up you leveled up so I was a. person who changed right people's. perspective of putting animals in music. right so I got to accept the new Rhythm. of the youth so I started listening to. it I'm like. that's what's hot now yeah and it. started it started hitting me different. I'm like. oh I get it right but when I first.

walked in the door it threw me off and. that's what I had to say. bro you can't have this before I say. that I went to my my son and I'm like. before I go left. is this dope. that's crazy okay. I got to go back to school I got I have. I have age I have gotten too comfortable. with what I've always been doing and not. looking that it can evolve there's. another Timberland coming around the.

door right there's another person coming. around when all these tags coming out I. was like I wasn't prepared for all that. I wasn't prepared for all you know the. the new generation of digital but I. should have known it was coming because. we had pro tubes and so I should have. known that everything is going to be. switched over to a laptop I was one of. those guys to say oh that ain't music. when Ableton came out and people started. planning on a on a pad piano on a pad. right and I had to say yo that's not a. piano.

and and it really kind of like that. really like took me down like I had a. low because I felt like I'm so. on point but I let I kind of like let. life kind of get in the way which kind. of did steer me to another road where I. kind of let music evolve above me so. when that happened when I got with a new. generation I had to really like take a. deep dive and say wait a minute what's. going on here did you ever get and it. doesn't seem like this happened uh get. high off your own Supply you like you.

have all these number one hits and. they're coming out coming and coming and. people come to you hey hey Tim I need. you. nah but I don't need you did you tell. anybody did you like. and look back at it say man I shouldn't. have done that yes I've done that's that. all that what I just told you based down. to that to say um. I don't know what they doing they can't. take a Tempo beat they can't do this and. not understanding that they grew up to. my music right and just it's bigger than. me and I had to really just do a deep.

dive into self-reflection and be like. I changed the game Who Am I who are you. right. these kids look up to you yep their. favorite song Was Cry Me a River and. it's like I started to like just really. like have talked to my really my. children you know because they're. younger so I'm like. they said you you dope you just gotta. like music ain't what you what y'all. used to do right and when they start. saying that I'm like oh man we turned. the corner so then I started saying okay.

this is dope this is dope and I start. getting more active and more in it than. now like I'm all the way in it now but. it took it took some time because I had. to. come down right I was too high my ego it. was like a coach yeah this is my system. this is what I run but the players that. you have in that system might not be. good for that system exactly what you. were used to you were great at that now. these players now might not be great at. that so now let me evolve the system to. fit today's players just like basketball.

I don't know half of the plan so. it evolved you know. and we're creating new stuff so when you. watch about about it do you know when I. went to the basketball game I'm looking. at like it's just like music right I. don't know nobody right I don't know. what they three-point gang I ain't never. seen this before right I ain't never. seen this before so that's what music is. right it evolves our children get better. than what we were they take it to the. next level and I never understood that. because I got too caught up in my own. high horses so how how did it work did.

you like man I want to work with this. artist you reach out or they reach out. to use the ATM we heard you beat we. heard what you did with Missy we heard. what you did with Jay we heard what you. did with uh uh JT. can you work with us or what did you. wait for them to come to you or did you. go to them well it's been a time where I. when I was on that I thought people. would come to me but when I realized. that there's a lot of people they're. like man we're gonna we go to this we go. to that because they had a sound so that.

kind of ended quick because a lot of. young people that once I understood and. my ear got more got corrected back again. so I started reaching out to people that. asked you know these new artists and. said hey I want to work with you right. because I admire what they was doing it. was like me. surrendering to music right like I'm a. student all over again right I know I'm. a coach but I want to be I want to be. Steve Carr I want to be that coach I. feel like I want to be go down to. history like I got my squad I got a team. I'm maybe not the guy I understand my. role and I tell a lot of people.

understand who you are in your in your. strengths and weakness and I know my. shrimp is guiding people yeah I could do. dope beats but as I started to. understand what music was taking me now. is is in that Quincy Jones moment it's. like when Quincy did Thriller he had a. 25 year old he's 50. but Quincy grabbed. that person got robbed Templeton he. grabbed the drummer he grabbed all these. people and made an incredible album but. I said that's what I have to do with the. future of music so now I reach out to. people and tell and people is not even.

big that I see they got talent yeah I. noticed that because that's the future. that's the world that they gonna you. know everybody can be everybody can jump. on somebody that's hot yeah you want to. get the guy that nobody knows give him a. beat got him and then. yeah because I want to be the guy like. when I say something. not saying to take my word just give it. a pay attention to it right you know. it's like buying it to your product like. I say this drink it's hey Shane ain't.

got the best drink so if you put out. another one I'm going to Shannon because. Shannon no his taste is amazing right so. it's like I want people to understand. when I when I say music. pay attention and it's happening like I. put I posted this french guy. um yame and he said yo he called me he. said now the lady was trying to sign me. and I'm like well they ain't trying to. sign you before that you was dope before. just singing on acapella so what I kind. of do is like to Showcase what's coming. the actor was already popping today. right and I just it gives me joy because.

it makes me feel like I'm 19 again when. I first got in music and when I first. when Missy came to me but now I'm like I. created this legendary brand of. Timberland being the Legend So I like. reaching out to people to show that I'm. paying attention to your art right you. already know my art but I'm scouting you. out like it's like me creating a team. like I want to build like okay these are. my these are my stars. that's my dad you know what I'm saying. oh we need a we need a a front runner we. need a uh to go take it to the house to.

the 100 yard line so I look at it like. that it's like plays now like. it's getting the best of the best and. creating and I was thinking about doing. an album like that I was trying to. figure it out because I don't want to do. the typical. album of getting everybody I want to. take raw talent and show people that you. know because all all music is about a. song it's not really about the the so. much of the artist no more like we have. uh 100 songs uploaded every day on.

Spotify. so with that being said I was going to. have to curate the best songs of today. with new people who's on your Mount. Rushmore producers all time. Teddy Riley okay. Quincy Jones. Dr Dre. um. Pete Rock. um. I mean is that not forward that's it.

that's it unless you're gonna do a new. go back in here it's only four that's it. four heads on my Rushmore let me let me. damn you want an octopus. make sure I think the fourth one right. all right if Teddy Riley Dr Dre Quincy. Jones. Pete Rock I said Pete Rock because he. was the guy who kind of had. he was he was the first to kind of like. took over the Airways with all the remix. with douse effects then he had it like.

he had the guru yeah but then it didn't. then it's hard because I wanted okay if. I had to damn can't just forget premier. and dealer see I'm stuck we're gonna. have to have three. because the four one is up the toss-up. right I gotta go back and research I. think the thing is when you go when you. say Dr Dre. and Quincy Jones. those two got to be there it got to be. there they've got to be there now we can.

we can debate. but you can't have a half of them Mount. Rushmore without dreading without Quince. you cannot you cannot. JT how did the the relationship with you. and JT Justin Timberlake come alive. Justin always. he like my he liked what me and Missy. did and I met him when he was 15 at the. studio and he was like hey man I want to. work with you and blah blah blah was he. still in the group or what yeah he was. still in the group and this was when. before alone came out alone was about.

that Michael Jackson no Gone Gone was it. was coming out and this is like right. around that time so he was still in the. group but he was about to do a solo. album and so he was already working for. Pharrell and then he came he said he. remembered like yo. Johnny Wright got with me and said yo. just want to work with you so when we. got together. we had chemistry because he from Memphis. I'm from Virginia it's like we kind of. grew up on the same things and when you.

got to like had the same background and. talk about the same things and he was. already working for Pharrell I already. knew he was going to click with me okay. and it was just it was just like a. matter of time if he you know because. back then you 15 I don't know if you we. say one thing but he really follow up on. it like my sound really stuck with him. right and he had to work with me I'm the. Cry Me a River suit and tied Sexy Back. 30 30 million albums so I mean. did you know.

he. could do this. oh hell yeah. when I first met I said oh. this boy this white boy cold yeah. he said like a better George Michael. he was I was like yo. he got it it did when he started dancing. right I said it's over because at that. time we haven't seen that nobody's ever. been able to do that exactly so we we. came in an era where I mean he could.

really Dance Now what Elvis was doing. the shaking his head with that oh that's. one thing but what he was doing was. different with what we were doing. exactly. and I was like. oh he go then he started singing I was. like oh he had it's out of here right we. hit the solo I said oh this is a Michael. Jackson and you know I'm saying the. Justified album. that was a masterpiece and he he when I. when I did crime in the river that was. like one of the last songs we did but. like the did you know that was gonna be. a hit.

you no do you know like okay. you got to be and someone is singing. over it do you know. at that moment. this ish is special. or do you like I mean I think it's gonna. be good or have you had a situation. where you didn't that's like I think. it's gonna be okay and then it blows up. or you have one that you think is going. to blow up and it don't go anywhere. oh it's a lot of those. it's a lot of those a lot of those.

um because I like all the B side records. right you know what I'm saying but. for the ones I knew was going to be a. hit like did I didn't think there was a. hit and I ain't thinking it was gonna be. a hit with one minute man I ain't like. that song right. I was like I don't like this song. you gonna put this out Tim you crazy. let's tell him all my girl the girl's. going crazy I'm like yeah I bet that. well girl we're going crazy hell no we. didn't like it.

yeah. I said man you gotta put out some put. out videos on the street. God damn it yeah. one minute. damn I was like. and I did that sound. I said you like this this feels like. nursery rhyme she said watch and then. when she said boy imma make you love me. I was like it's dope but you know it. still ain't it ain't. did Ludacris Get the Ludacris you don't.

like this boy you crazy I'm about to get. on I'm like well I'm I'ma stay at 10. toes down it's all right you know what. I'm saying it's cool right but then when. it blew up I said that girl misses she. knows and from that point on you never. questioned it it's like Game of Thrones. like yes my queen whatever you like what. I'm looking now you see Justin he sold. his entire music catalog and we see a. lot of artists starting to unload their.

music catalog uh Justin Bieber Souls. here sold his for 200 million Tina. Turner sold us for 300 million Bruce. Springsteen sold his for 500 million why. are you why do you think guys are. artists are starting to unload their. their music catalog. I mean it's a business you know I'm. saying like what's wrong with it if. somebody you we don't know if that 300. million be there tomorrow right so what. are we holding on to what are we doing. here we work as hard for these moments. right when are people giving out those. type of multiples on a check right you.

know so I feel like. it's it's all personal preference you. know a lot of people when they sell 300. million that's like that's a whole to. set up for your family yeah you know. what I'm saying you go buy businesses. you get with certain people and then you. look at the time they doing Bruce. Springsteen he should have been so but. guess what he probably got his business. plan and what he want to do with his. money right what do you want to do just. add on and make sure you got kids you. know I think it's I think it's. I think it's smart business you know I'm. saying we do we build up this catalog.

um. two four to sale right but you know I've. seen TI says like you know different. ways of doing it and he is like okay. lease it or and foreign. what's your business plan so TI just. gave somebody an individual of another. business plan which is not a bad. business plan correct and you just have. to go do it and some people it works. because like it's all about you know we.

all black and. Financial literature is like not good in. our community so to take a lot of money. up front is like what ti said is having. have business plan right don't just take. all that money just to say I got I sold. my catalog at least have a plan right of. what you're going to do right put that. money because it'll go just like that. right because when you pay taxes you. look at it very different so whatever it. was it's happened and then you hear me I. just got a witness of that I was like. wait a minute. you took what yeah.

you know I had to go sit down I was like. yo that's highway robbery. that's that's extortion. you know I was like wait a minute man. so that's why we got to work hard so. it's like you work hard to to to not. work hard right so if you have an. opportunity to go. Finance your life livelihood for the. rest of 30 years of the rest of your. life why not take that right you know. what I'm saying because that bank might. close look what happened with SUV uh.

Silicon Valley right just think about. you don't know what can happen in this. group Market. versus how did verses come to be. man. he was hung and during the pandemic we. were just we we know we know what. tomorrow hold we thought it was fun. we reconnected with people that we. should have been reconnected with but we. live in the world that we move so fast. and I've been saying this I told my. friend where's the world shut down yeah. right but it actually happened.

so that means whatever something. somebody say do not say oh that would. never happen you better pay attention. when they talk about UFO pay attention. so when the pandemic it was just me and. Switzerland we just had a conversation. about just life we was and I was happy. to talk to my friend like I didn't know. we was like best of friends until we. start sharing like our personal stories. that happened with us happiness what. happened with us in life our personal. stories and then I just called them one.

day I started tagonizing them I'm like. all right what you gonna do with this. beat and I just started like doing beat. battles because we we did it one time. before and TMZ picked it up when I. played the Game of Thrones and he was we. talked about you know going at each. other and we did it on Instagram okay. and then he had we had the idea when we. did Summer Jam this like dude this album. where I do Timbo side he do suicide like. a versus versus Timbo and then we tried. the whole thing out really in Hot 97 in.

the Summer Jam and it really worked but. you know everybody was outside these are. one of the people outside the world go. yeah they just we just doing the most so. I knew technology I said once it shut. down. I kind of had a you know God put on my. heart like technology was going to be. the new wave it's gonna come in like a. storm because we shut down that's the. only way to communication. so I called switch I said man remember. that idea we had three and a half years.

you know how did we did the with. battling each other let's let's. do that here let's do that on Instagram. let's do it now and it was I I tell you. it was God you know moving the universe. in the right direction to where it was. no problem and I think what sparked that. up with d nice. D nice What DJ and everybody was on it. we was all jamming to be nice and I was. like man what can we do you know saying. to myself and I called switch I'm like. remember you know the idea that we had.

that we did some um Summer Jam let's do. it right here on on the ground he's like. when I said right now. he said right now I said yeah why not. all right let's give me an album get my. get my setup I said all right I'm gonna. get my set up and we when we sparked it. off it was all because of the love. so when we did it we only had 30 000. people for people but it spread it and. then once it spread it we all came. together as a team and like we got. something here right and we just took. control.

of a situation because I knew. to really build like the platform we. want to build really takes about two two. years right when you want to get your. idea out. you don't got two years like you need to. show the world yeah and so we just you. know as we just jumped out and did our. thing and God blessed it to where it. caught on like wildfire right and I I. thank him because he allowed us to know. how to follow the lead because some. people get that that spark plug and then. go away from them but I got to think.

Swiss is a smart businessman like. soon as we saw it and how people was. embracing it. he's like okay we gotta call we got to. have a meeting. what are we doing this is what we're. doing I said you're right we doing this. this we got to get the trademark we got. to do this and then people was like oh. Ain't Gonna Last more past the pandemic. but me and swiss knew that this was. the new Soul Train this was a new. phenomenon right this was something. that's going to go beyond the pandemic. and um we just had to believe because we.

had haters saying. once they heard what we were doing and. then we we knew as the culture what I. love about the culture like they kind of. like like a bunch of Misses like yeah. they'd be like that ain't it that ain't. it and then you got to work past that. ain't it to be like then they'd be on. the line I thank you. I thank you for doing this you don't. know how much I did but you was the on. last week he was like why y'all giving. me this version right why are you doing. that like all right.

bear with me so that's how verse it was. and it's like we really. stood tall on that and got past that and. I could say nothing it made us feel good. when I sold right you know what I'm. saying like and to see it get to this. point to where we elevating now we get. into the real business of it and. negotiating certain things and I just. thank God that. he allowed a tool. that was already in place for us to to.

invent our two that we had so what can. we expect from verses and we see with. the artists when they did this the album. sales a lot of these artists hadn't put. out music in a very long time and we see. their sales go through the roof. everybody go forget just how great the. artists were and go back out and. purchase some of their music and start. that all over again so what can we. expect from versus moving forward man we. can expect the same the versus effect. and we tell people how real that is like. we're showing a new business versus.

really a new business show like catalogs. like you said that never been heard it's. got kids going back listening to it. right versus is a tool of the future of. not just like rebirth or catalog that. people might have because we're selling. the catalog right but how do you get. those catalogs to be heard again right. versus is that platform so what we got. going forward is we trying to do bigger. verses we got we got we got a couple. lined up but you know like now that. everybody outside is scheduling right so.

we're working on the scheduling but we. got some we got some big ones okay I got. some battles I wanted you to know tell. me Chris Brown Usher battle Chris Brown. versus Usher. that's one off top tens too. you know. it can happen we don't we we know what. can happen it's a matter of time because. it's good for the culture. and that's a good one. Dr Dre Quincy Jones. [Laughter].

well that's the only I mean can't nobody. else battle Drake can't nobody else. battle Dr Dre but Quincy can't no one. battle Quincy but Drake. that's it. Quincy. 60 years. the battle question what I'm saying if. you're gonna throw anything at him. it's got to be Dre. from Sinatra to Ray Charles to Michael.

Jackson come on man that's like you you. just said something how did somebody. come out to Sonata. okay I see that I can see that but are. we missing like what about like. gambling Huff. me personally. I ain't battling Quincy Jones. that's why I say gambling hook because. you wouldn't you went like segments of. people from Frank Sinatra on one that.

got like that type of. ambulance of like people who've done. like from The Stylistics the whole way. down like it but I do like the dread. comparison but I'm like when you just. said oh what he done I'm like wait a. minute wait a minute yeah but Dre I mean. you know from Dre from snoo to park and. all those that he I mean so it'll be. interesting I just want to hear the song. I like the playlist of the of the of the. of the two yes I think but you want to. get 20 now you only get 20. I ain't.

talking about no camera you know what. nobody got nobody got right four days to. listen about all these music see that. that's the thing like Chris ain't gonna. just go for 20 he said man I got to go. quickly hit us with a series yeah it's. gonna be like the first series. The Juice joint this series yeah you. know what I'm saying like he gonna hit. you with a series like you can't just. get him you can't get Quincy 20. okay. Drake and hold. that would be a good one. but I'd rather see hope and Nas.

really yes so if you got to put some. money out so if you invite you hey hey. your money you got to put a meal down. holding knives. I got to put a meal down either either. one yeah the winner. I'm gonna say you get 500. both of y'all are winners like. that's holding knives okay.

Prince and Michael. whoo. so you know it's gonna be it's more. difficult than you think because Prince. was a writer and people forget that and. now I'm about to go on your side. I'm on your side with that one I'm gonna. like if you probably get mad they see. this yes. but don't you that Prince. it's a written compose and produced and. composure produces the same thing so. what is compose some extra stuff you.

know what I'm saying so you know what. I'm saying so like. that's serious bro so I was thinking. like a whole creation of like doing that. like because. I want to see that. I wanna I want like people to pick the. best from his family 20. in the Jackson. family day 20. right that will be. amazing because you know all this. technology yeah hologram we put the. Hologram up yeah the AI we're gonna love. it yes we're gonna go crazy with the new. technology we don't go crazy we got the. Hologram we got the technology yeah. Tupac and Biggie you know that's what.

the world weighs that that's what we all. waiting for yeah I'm waiting for it I'm. waiting for it like longer people to me. it's like let me be let us let me just. be creative don't judge it people like. oh don't play with the don't play with. the dead don't do that I get it but it's. like it's music right I want to hear the. music I want to know what I I want to. relive these memories again you know I'm. saying I really think that Tupac and. Biggie is necessary right and don't I. know people are probably gonna be upset. I just think Aaliyah too yes I just.

don't know you know what I'm saying I. don't I don't know who you gonna put. against that's what I don't know but she. needs to be in this conversation. Whitney Mariah. that needs to be done. I like that. look at that playlist. Mariah and Whitney do you know do you. know. they catalog and go out the room. that's a that's that's that's actually a. few I already see that one first that's. what you want to sleep first not the.

biggest Tupac but that one right because. that sets a tone it's it gets the world. ready right it says the sentimental tone. and it's like Mariah we're gonna cry. we'll be emotional and Mariah gonna. bring it cause she gonna talk her talk. and them songs back to back right and. just us seeing it you know they try. these the documentary I want to dance. but that's really the I want to dance. with somebody if we did a verse I want. to dance where everybody want to do just. document on witness is really diverse is.

like what you just said Whitney and. Mariah Carey who can we put a Dale. against. I would love to see a Dell gold really. against Alicia again okay I know Alicia. did John that was great. um. she did that one. but I really I would want to see Alicia. again with Adele. um. I don't know if anybody's ever thought. about this one what about.

B and Riri. you know like it's funny who could we. put against B. is there anybody we can put against me. Aretha Franklin it can't it can't be. nobody from her era no I no it can't.

it has to be a Aretha Franklin they have. to be somebody of some something that's. somebody that's here if the legend is. here or a legend is not right. she's a standalone who can we put. against Marvin Gaye Teddy Pendergrass or. Luther. Barry White. uh I try to think. Sam Cooke. I mean who who who would you like to see. battle Marvin.

just said you said you said like four I. said. I started out with uh Marvin Teddy Teddy. P I think Teddy. except I'm doing I'm doing like a. collage in my head oh that's a good. that's a good. not only that verses versus a curated. thing so it's like. your curation is is some it's accurate. because I'm looking at. playlisted because like you said we. raising catalogs and that's what. Swisher's great at is curating.

these playlists and the whole like. the versus genre of someone because when. people go back and listen to the. playlist and when you put. I ain't know they had that song I didn't. know you do that exactly and now you got. more music still in your car right. you know now you're like oh. the verses is is Marvin. and Teddy. so now you go on your Apple music you. like. but Teddy I mean people don't remember.

this but Teddy used to have female only. concerts damn it all the [ __ ] do that. female. omelette. I say. um. that's a mean one you mentioned Aaliyah. saying she's in movies. how big would she have been. has she not tragically lost her life.

was she headed to I mean because we see. Beyonce Beyonce saying he's been movies. was she going to be Beyonce before. Beyonce. I think it would have probably been. this highway I think a little bit. four girls. four or five. missing. Beyonce I say you know like five like. Top Notch girls. Missy Beyonce Aaliyah.

Rihanna it's another girl too. Nikki. I think she would have been in those top. five I don't know if she would have beat. or been we don't know that right but she. would have been. top five. top three maybe. another guy that produced a song right. I believe. you can separate art from an artist. you can say what he produced and what he.

did was unbelievable in the art form and. be disgusted by what he did as a person. and that's R Kelly. and sometimes because. the depravity and what he did you like. you throw everything that he's done. artistically away I don't believe you. can do that no I believe you can. separate the two yes I have I agree. I agree talk about. Kelly the artist there's nothing to to.

try to downplay or whatever he did up. outside of the music realm because we. know. R Kelly the king of RB. we all know that man. and it's funny I'm glad you talked about. that because. I'll be having talks with everybody. jumping you say okay I'm like. so we're just gonna ignore his music. that he gave us that we all Jam to no we. can't do that right his art is just art. we know I'm not gonna bash it but he. ain't the only one that got some things.

and it's had some things got some things. in his closet but we still listen to the. music exactly and to me we have to learn. how to I think as a culture we have to. learn how to separate that and if I say. okay who can battle R Kelly I don't want. to see in the comments how you gonna. have this. don't mix music up with personal music. is a feeling that stands alone music is. something that don't have no race. that brings people together it don't. have no drama with it it is a place of.

enjoyment right of feeling right so. don't bring drama into music. leave that outside his art his art. I say the same thing about a lot of. people you know that that are great. artists but we look at. what they do on a personal level and try. to disqualify the art you can't do that. I'm looking at some of the guys some of. the people that you work with from. Rihanna to Beyonce ludicrous new Mariah. Brandy Alicia Keys Ross Petey Pablo. Pastor Troy brother Sparks how do you.

how do you go about with these I mean. you look at these guys this is a Who's. Who and then you go Michael Jackson. Nelly Furtado Miley Cyrus Elton John. Shakira Katy Perry Brad Paisley. OneRepublic Nickelback Limp Biscuit. Lindsay Lohan Coldplay bruh. it doesn't matter the genre music in the. country it can be you know r b it can be. pop it can be whatever because I know.

I'm gonna bring my swag to it right so. to me it's like. another day at the office right let's go. do it like it's a challenge it was a. challenge like. because I'm like what do y'all want from. me right we want you okay well you want. a little bit of what you used to with me. on top. just do you. really want that that's what I say. all right and they allow it right and we. made history who who you've been most.

surprised by that gave you a call and. says we want you. Elton John. because I'm like well let me but I had. an idea when I got a studio I'm like. I don't want you to say I just want you. to play. and I'm gonna put a choir around your. plan okay so he was like so where you. going to play just whatever let's go so. you tell Elton John to just play you. little put something around him is that.

normally what you do or do they ask for. if they're like okay this is this is. what I have okay how do you enhance it. well it's like. you know I came Elton John was following. my league because he's like the he's the. he's the goat right and I'm young Timbo. I have this Vision so it was like. he was following my lead okay you know. I'm saying because it wasn't what I. guess he was used to working with right. but I knew who Elton John and his talent. I knew I was my favorite song was been.

in the gym. yeah like and I knew it all and I was. like love all his music so it's like. I just wanted to play I don't want to. say because I don't know how I'ma flip. your singer which I could have right but. I just want him to I want to showcase. his his art what he gifted was and his. plan so I said this I had this beat I. said this play to this let's play. and we I'm gonna put the choir to it he. just let me do what I do and he came. back and I played it for him he was. shocked. he was like wow you work with artists.

that's what you normally do but how. different is it collabing with a. producer Scott Storage are you collab. with you know collabing with an artist a. Beyonce or you know somebody that sings. and you're producing the Beats but now. you got another producer and they do. what you do. that was fun because now you're meeting. like-minded people and Scott was always. dope you know Scott was dope and when I. did Carmen River I would just me. beatboxing. you know all that stuff and I say I need.

I need Scott to play them chords over. top of that and I called Scott he was. right there and he did it and he started. adding his sauce I know Scott was always. he was incredible right you know I'm. saying Scott had a a gift I guess Scott. is like you know I look at Quincy you. know as he developed his team in that. younger age it's the same thing and. Scott was the guy with all the soul you. know the roofs knew who he was that's. why that's why he came up with the roots. and all that Scott was like a perfect. person to collab with because.

is like LeBron and A.D you know when you. put a great team together right I could. pass the ball to him I know he gonna get. 20. you know what I'm saying that Scott. I mean Scott was the guy his soul was. just like my soul we was like musical. Soul Brothers right working with Hove. you guys go back. to give him flowers all the money he. making you know I want to have hobo here. I want to give him his flowers. but yeah get him a goddamn Garden yeah. we yeah yeah yeah yeah definitely for.

sure. you go in the studio and you work with. home. obviously. early in his career but. you know no hold. was gonna turn out to like go from what. he was he talked about cooking on the. stove stand on the corner to rapper the. entrepreneur to multi-billionaire. you know I'm glad we talking about this.

guy never really like. Jay-Z is a prophet. I don't know if y'all read the Bible. of any Scholars of the Bible. God sent him like I never seen I never. seen nobody like. ho. ve actually raised me he don't even know. it he raised me in the music business. he was so prolific so wise Beyond his. age.

that I would just amazed at just. watching him. that's why like I had a different bond. with Jay when it comes to my music it. was like. we was rewriting the Bible in a way or. rewriting. history as it's going to be. how Jay-Z foresaw the world going. forward. Shannon I ain't seen nothing like it. when I say this guy. speak multiple. languages. we did Picasso.

that wasn't the first version the first. version was like all the Hebrew language. and all like the the Jews he was just. breaking it down and that's when I. realized like. this guy not human he's different. I learned about Chess from him I learned. a lot of things just being around him so. for me it was like going to Black. Harvard University right watching Moses. and I'm I'm his I'm following him as he.

lead us through the desert right because. Jay. I knew he was destined for greatness. I knew it I'm watching. the next. biggest thing since. I don't want to say Elvis I don't want. to say I want to say no I won't say damn. I want to say E.T wow. because when E.T came out it shook the. world just that was a movie right. saying to you Hove is a movie.

well he did that that that that DJ. Khaled song. people should really take that the. god-giver yes it really. chew it. It really used that for a guideline of. your life Jay-Z gave you raps that can. help your business. that's how powerful that man is left me. on anywhere on God's green earth I'll. triple my net worth. so when you. our age down.

you gotta look back that man was 22. they'll give you a blueprint of what you. can become exactly and what he was to. what he is. and he he told he taught me so much bro. and I'm glad I was a student to get to. see it. you've had some struggles in your life. um you had an addiction yes I did and. you said you weren't Tim and not only. did it affect you it affected affected.

impacted others around you yes. how did this Addiction come about. not really being sure who I am. you know a lot of people. I can say this now when we talk about. haters is really the enemy. in the enemy. I was fighting the enemy within me I was. married at the time. and doing things you know not really. knowing who I am chasing things that's.

false. and this life just got a little bit. aggressive we got it got the best of me. and so to deal with all the pressures of. life. it started with a dentist taking Vicodin. then the Vicodin made me feel like. Superman it made me get over everything. and then all of a sudden I just I found. myself just taking it all the time I had. a doctor that was giving it to me at all. the times my mama my mom was a great. prayer Warrior she was in the church and. she told me she had a dream of me being.

like my face was turning blue or. something like that and then. I was on it like for like I was taking. like 160 milligrams a day of Oxycontin. wow and everybody that I know who've. done that has died you know what I'm. saying so. I think I even died you know at one. point in time where I got out I had an. out-of-body experience where I was. laying in the bed and I saw myself. laying in the bed.

and from that point on you know God has. changed my mind and um. I didn't go to a doctor. I didn't I did a cold turkey here I just. started weaning myself off and you can. put pills in front of my face I could. just look at it be like because I ain't. gonna sit here to hold you up like it it. feels great it's amazing but it's not. amazing right you know what I'm saying. so I try to be an advocate and talk. about. that anything is possible if you put. your mind to it and I put my mind to it.

with the help of God and praying he. weaned me off I didn't have to go be on. another drug to get off a drug did the. pill Edition impact your marriage did. that have a role I think it impact my. whole life God took me to the um to the. bottom where that when I got divorced. you know the voices like that thing like. a business is you. it destroys you you lose everything half. of everything you lose everything so for. me you know it's just not it just it was. a self-reflection for me so I I didn't. mind going back to the crushing place.

you know how because God needed to wake. me up you know saying like I'm a I'm. gonna redeem you but I gotta humble you. too I gotta break you down and make me. realize because a lot of things in life. I was taking for granted you know when. we young we get money it's just a lot of. things I was taking for granted and I. just start appreciating little things. like. be able to stretch. you know. be able to still run like my organs. still work that I still can got my right. mind you know it was just me the drugs.

had me. because I was an introvert and I felt. like that being an introvert ain't gonna. get you you ain't gonna get you paid. because you just you can't be quiet you. gotta go out and meet me yeah you guys. so the drug helped me to do that but. people started notice like tell me all. right. did you work slip because of the pill. addiction oh did it a lot God took my. hearing away. he took I couldn't hear I couldn't hear. right I remember I was in the studio. with tanashe and I was playing this beat.

and then I think when I thought about I. was like that was the wackest beat ever. but in my head but I was still going. through recovery stage. so I shouldn't have really got into that. room right but because. I ain't no quitter I'm a I'm gonna do it. but. I know. through me still getting off of the drug. I still had some relapse that still. wasn't correct and it wasn't I couldn't. hear properly so I I I I was just I was.

trying to get back at something that God. gave me so I neglect the gift. I neglect music I thought I was bigger. than music and that's not how it works. right you know you gotta give God all. the glory for what you have your gift. and don't get above the gift and I got. above the gift and the drugs had me like. I'm Timbo everybody's gonna come to me. right and then when I realized ain't. nobody coming to me you know what I'm. saying and my my energy is wearing off. on the world and I didn't even know it.

in Social Media stuff I was saying with. this all yeah Hove told you I said man. don't do no more interviews yep. no that's what I'm trying to say he's a. prophet right you know even Drake told. me Drake that's why I said that's when I. look at people like those guys those. guys are like special to the world like. you know Drake I think I did something. um Talk crazy on one revolt and um Jay. like yo man you don't want to do that. and have to go back and apologize later. like you want to check it like I commend.

people like that for for correcting me. and um on my behavior Chris Brown. corrected me on my behavior so I commend. people because that's what we need right. even though it might cut to the night. you still I don't look at it as. elderly people or somebody of of older. than you saw you do it wrong they say. Tim don't do that still don't curse you. too young to curse are you too young to.

steal you too young to smoke but somehow. we lost that now that if we see other. blacks and we try to correct them oh let. that man live you being an Uncle Tom you. speaking man you speaking negative but. they thought enough of you. they say man Tim this ain't you man. that's why I say it's love. that's why I I love it like I because. nobody got to say nothing just watch you. fall right. you know I'm saying now once they give. you the information it's up to you to to. do what you do now I didn't do it as.

much because the drugs had a little bit. more told once I started breaking myself. off weaning myself off divorce then all. the stuff started coming out in my. divorce like. who was doing this by you know I'm not. saying behind my back but stuff I wasn't. paying attention to right because I. fought me because I couldn't pay if it'd. be something different if I was paying. attention right. so I can't say oh nobody did me wrong. because the drugs have my mind they're. thinking that. imma always be this I'ma always do that. which is kind of like. you kind of need that mentality because. that mentality kept me going right I.

didn't like how the mentality came on. from a drug abuse if it was just me. being natural being like all right. that's what it is because it'll allow me. to get out of the situation it's the. thing that makes us great and it also. makes us most valuable exactly. he rose in the villain in one what are. the what are the a Timbo studio session. like I mean is there you know is there. Ambiance going on you got I mean what. was it. we coming in we got it okay we got a. student what time do you normally you're.

sitting what time what time which okay. which area are you talking about. okay I guess the Young The Young these. young dudes they cover that thing at. like midnight two o'clock two a.m I used. to start okay. I didn't go still to like one o'clock so. what day are you doing what you ain't. got another job the fleet like a vampire. I'm gonna tell you I was I was gongs and. I was going I keep the shades down I I. was in the dark bro I was in get out for. real. like for real like for real like I tell.

people now people say on lean and stuff. I'd be like I know the feeling I know. the goodness of it but I know the bad. outweighs the good right I slept with. the shades down like who sleeps in. darkness I never wanted to Shades up I. constantly just oh the sunlight hurt my. eyes that's Darkness right like I ain't. start right I ain't come out to the dark. right and I felt like you know I look. back at it like now and Pharrell always. had to like nine to five I'm out of. there I like nine to five I don't get.

started to twelve o'clock you know I'm. saying so it was like but now I look at. it like I get better because you know I. train I work out I take care of my body. I do all of that so I started around. about like 12. and I try to stop at like. nine because my yeah my brain look I. ain't got no more juices right bro I. ain't gonna we got two hits today right. okay because after that I know it's. gonna be bull crap I ain't gonna fool. myself I'm going home and watch some TV. watch your. shower then I go back and go back into a.

beat so coming to a Timberland session. today is like I go in there with my team. right a young producer not going there. and be and be coach coach simbo and go. in there and dictate oh no this move. this let's change this let's do this if. we go in there we make about three or. four four hot ones and like let's go. let's go live life let's go look at some. TVs read a book let's go look at. something because you came to sit in. there this concert do music on you this. repetition it's repetitious and after a. while you like you kind of like. overloaded you have to like take a break.

right and I've learned that through time. like taking a break. helps you recover stay focused. I I watch you follow you on social media. and I see that you work out you spend a. lot of time and I want to commend you on. that because I like to see when Brothers. take care of themselves and and that. their health is a big priority I mean. wealth doesn't mean anything if you're. not healthy yeah and so to see you do. that and see the transformation that. you've put your body through and you did. it all through hard work. thank you.

you inspired me really look how you look. I tell you I tell my coach Phil who said. no that I tell them all I said man look. how Shannon looked man I hope you don't. ever take off this shirt. I see a picture he said he got hip. replacement I said him so look bad to me. no it's you the Rock and I'm like. being 50 is like being 20 all over and. my dad just had two strokes and you know.

and God bless him he still you know. didn't lose too much don't have you know. it's got a little speech. um got hit by 18 wheeler ran over back. and forth that's all only thing he did. was poo poo on himself you know what I'm. saying so I look at the bloodline of uh. family like my dad so I'm like yo I've. been on heavy narcotics right. um. my kids I want to be I don't and I just. I don't want to be lazy I don't I know.

that I'm better than this and I always. have Vision when I look in the mirror. some people can look at you know their. weight and everything I would just one. who always saw when I look at say huge. your own bed is the rock I'm like see. that's I got that bone structure I. pulled the fit like when they go line. each other up I don't understand at. least I'm at the end of the line right I. ain't saying because I ain't know I said. a lot of we looking athletes and I just. started like yo. be like that but then I always like food. used to be a part of it right so I had. to just say you know what I'm like John. Wick I got sheer will you know what I.

could do this and so I just started like. I look at you and I just watch you in. the gym I look at all y'all and I'm like. no this 50s and new 30s like you know. I'm saying look at these look at these. guys like that's how you're supposed to. look right you're supposed to be healthy. keeping going like you're not supposed. to get old and then they're just just. like you only get one car your body is. your car you're one life yeah I'm saying. one life I mean yeah you and I got both. meals replaced you can get knees. replacement you know hard lung kidney. can't replace life no hey look I'm.

looking like look at this it's like 20. years old bro all right I just tell you. I said man TV don't do him Justice the. camera's got to stop they gotta stop. that bro these cameras adding no y'all. lives is off because. they're playing you like y'all to all. these people right I beat I'm amazing. athletes like I took a new liken to all. athletes because the the abuse that. y'all take yeah the critic people who. don't even work out tell you that you.

would you know I see you were scared. when you talk oh he made but have you. got it on the field. have you lifted weight until you start. looking at what y'all do and what y'all. put your body through right it's a. respect that I love I worked out with. Chris Paul he was like man just you. being not an athlete this is what I do. for a job but you come out here and put. it in with me Iris I respect you I will. buy anything you selling like you know. because you put in the work and I ain't. really understood that but I saw them. I'm like man we look at we talk about. the big pays that's cool but what they.

go through is what I mean everybody sees. the payday but they don't know the. process that they took again it's just. like you I mean they see the beat but. they don't understand what you went. through growing up to Perfect The Craft. that finally the culmination is okay. Crimea River suit and tie yeah Missy. beats and all that other thing they. don't see that all they see is the. payoff that's all this but see I have a. whole no respect and I felt like I came. with a program we call pushing peace.

that's right I feel like people of our. age Our Generation talking to the men's. that's from 40 on up 30 on up look it's. not about it's about mental Clarity. right working out is cool for the body. but it really makes me clear it gives me. a high that I never I can't explain and. it makes me. look at life a little different it takes. away anxiety for me it's just it's just. a whole lifestyle like it's my whole. life like I can't I don't like to travel. if I like my meals is messed up like I'm. very serious with it yeah like I'm so.

serious with like I'm like wait a minute. what we got to do for two days oh man. let me figure out my schedule I need to. I need my supplements I need this and it. and I feel good and I have great doctors. around me just just like teach me about. the body like they say yo Tim I get your. glucose monitor I said you know I said I. ain't got no disease I got a hard blood. no we want to turn into a fat burning. machine not a sugar burning machine. right so I start getting the glucose. monitor putting on my arm and going like. this I'm really all into it right.

because I feel like it's it's allowing. me to do things like this you have a. conversation where I used to be scared. right okay I didn't used to I didn't. think I had enough in me to do this you. know I'm saying my education ain't all. that great you know what I'm saying I. don't know but I'm and it allows me to. say. tell you good you I made your your. imperfection Perfection right go show. your gift you don't know who you can. talk so I just started this being free. and be by me working out that allows me.

to endorphins in my brain to say I'm a. better me yeah if you take ownership of. your imperfections your frailties then. no one can make you feel inferior about. it exactly and when I when I work out. with the athletes and they go faster. they look at me and he gotta and Phil. got a lot of Fighters that come in there. he trained all these Fighters and. they'll be like I'm like man ain't. trying with these guys. but but he said no get in there that's. what you need you're getting now get in. there and then they look at me they that. me up and they really that me up yeah. like I could tell Angel just because I'm.

Timbo the kid. they really like yeah yo. because that's because that's what we do. we're athletes we train that'll be like. if we came in the studio and we did okay. on the track you're like okay okay okay. okay yeah that's the same thing we gonna. give you yours because that's what we do. we train our jobs as body and to make. sure our body is performing at in Peak. conditioning yes yes and so I want to. commend you on that let me ask you a. question um get you out of here on this.

are we gonna get a Timbo Missy reunion. and you got anything come any new music. coming yes we are getting the temple. Mission I'm gathering up the sound. because it's certain it's a certain. sound that I want her to have at you. know you see how good she look right now. yeah she looked like she 20 years old. yeah so I want to give her a sound that. fit how she looks okay and that's my job. to get her excited while she's doing all. the things I think she's doing uh lovers. and friends she got a lot of festivals. coming up so I'm just Gathering all my. material to really go. sit down with her I know April's gonna.

be a busy month but I gotta finish up. with her and I'm gonna try to we're. gonna try to put it out around her. birthday in July okay. my guy gambo appreciate you bro standing. this was beautiful bro thank you bro I. appreciate you thank you taking the. opportunity sitting down and talking. with me bro hey man but look this Shay. cheese. all my life been running all my life. sacrifice hustle baby price wanna slice.

got to roll a dice that's why all my. life I'll be grinding all my life all my. life been running all my life. stack fights possible pay the price. wanna slice got to roll a dice that's. why all my life. foreign.