The Game Says He's The Best Rapper From Compton, Apologizes To Kim Kardashian & Talks 50 Cent

I'll apologize to to [music] Kim today. >> Yeah, I appreciate that. >> You know, right here. >> Oh, right here. Hey yo, Kim. Shannon. want me TO TELL YOU. >> NO, NO, THAT AIN'T NO APOLOGY. YOU CAN'T. SAY I WANT YOU TO DO THAT. You say, Kim, I was wrong for what I said and I want. to apologize. That's how you do it. >> All right. No, Kim. I was uh I'm. apologetic for the way that I displayed, you know, or discussed or inter. relations with the public. >> Okay. How about that? All my life been. grinding all my life. Sacrifice, hustle,

paid the price, want a slice, got to. roll a dice. That's why all my life I've. been grinding all my life. [singing]. All my life been grinding all my life. Sacrifice hustle paid the price. [music]. Got to roll dice. That's why all my life. I've been grinding all my life. >> Hello, welcome to another episode of. Club Shay. I am your host Shannon Sharp. I'm also the propriet of Club Shay. stopping by for conversation on the. drink today. With a career spanning two. decades, he's one of the best rappers on.

earth. He's credited with bringing West. Coast back to the mainstream. He's a. consistent force in delivering classic. albums, a Grammy nominated superstar, a. multiplatinum songwriter, global chart. topping artist, a prolific producer, MC, actor, and an entrepreneur, hiphop icon, Compton OG, West Coast legend. They call. him the Coast Guard. Here he is. the. game. [applause]. >> We We do you right. We do you right on. the intro. >> Hey, when you was reading it down, I'm. like, who is he talking about? [laughter]. Like, you know, sometimes, man, when you.

on the inside looking out, it's hard to, you know, we just going through it. >> We trying to accomplish things, you. trying to take care of our family, make. a name for ourel, and you just never. stop to really, you know, give yourself. a pat on the back sometimes. So, when. you reading, it's just like, I didn't. done some, you know, I didn't done. something. >> Because you're still on the journey. You. haven't reached the destination yet. you. haven't put the car in park. You hadn't. parked the boat at the dock. And so, you're still going. And that's what I. tell people. You don't you don't really. appreciate what you've done. And then. when you go back and when you sit down. and pause, you're like, "Damn, I did. that. I did that. I I really did some.

is.". >> Well, congratulations, bro. 46 46. summers, 46 falls heading into 46. winter. Man, we got to celebrate this, bro. >> Yeah, man. >> This is my KNC shave by La Portier. A. premium BSOP. I want to know what you. think. Cheers, bro. Take man. That's smooth, man. >> Yeah. You know, we we we do it right. We. do it right. >> You know what, man? Right there. [laughter].

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telling a lot of people this maybe in. the last like 30 days. Okay. Pour into. people that pour into you. >> That's it. That is the most important. thing. We spend so much time trying to. please other people. You know what I'm. saying? Like impress strangers and all. of that. But the people that are right. there giving you the love, we don't we. we miss it sometimes. So now I make it. every waking day. I make it my, you. know, my business to make sure that if. my mama called me last night, I'm. calling the first, you know, soon as I. wake up. I'm not putting that off till.

after the gym. My friends call me check. on me, I'm calling them and checking on. them. And so it's just, you know, like. that, like you got to pour into people. that are pouring into you and spend more. time doing that. >> Game, you had a very rough upbringing. Um, had [clears throat] some experiences. that that I think you believe probably. impacted you later in your life. What. was what was what was your childhood. what was your childhood like? Uh, sometimes when I think about uh things. that I went through as a child, it it um. [clears throat]. it ain't no way that I'm even sitting on.

this couch with you. I I lived a trauma. dramafilled childhood. Uh my parents. love my mama. Love my mama to death. You. know, I love my mama like you love your. mama. You can't your mama can't do no. wrong, >> right? >> Um [clears throat and cough]. hated my father um for a long time. Uh. loved him and hated him. And it's just. funny cuz he passed in uh 2018. >> Okay. >> But um the things that he told me, he. didn't he didn't he had a lot of money. when we were young cuz he was in the. streets selling drugs, doing what he had.

to do. But then he got out of that, you. know, he in and out of jail with my. uncle and then he phased out of that and. um he picked up other, you know, other. little skill sets and whatnot to bring. money in, but it wasn't a lot. And uh. I'm like the middle of like 17 kids, right? >> 17. >> Yeah. >> So your dad had not your mom and dad, but. >> My mom got Yeah. My mom got four girls. and me. >> Okay. So you got five, but your dad got. a couple of more on the side. >> My dad got he got Yeah. Both ways. [laughter]. >> But um Yeah. He didn't have a lot of. money, man. But he gave me a lot of. wisdom. And you know, when you're young,

you don't really hear the words of. wisdom at all. Um, but as I, as my kids. grow and I, you know, I grow, um, things. that he told me are starting to really, um, like, you know, just do amazing. things for me in my life. And so, I I. talked to my dad, I think, more. >> after his demise than I than I did when. he was here, which is a tragedy, but, you know, once people perish, we can't. get them back. And so, all we have is. our memories and God. And so, um, I lift. him up and praise him as much as I can. just to myself, you know.

>> How, how is that trauma in the past, does it play out today? >> Um, I think that I just as far as like. fatherhood, right? Cuz I grew up in a. foster home because of, you know, some. things that my uh father did in the. past. We were uh me and my sister were. extracted from the from our home with my. mom and put into foster homes in third. grade. And uh she fought for us, you. know, every month. We had to go to. court. we had to go to counseling, talk. to social workers and whatnot. Um, and. so I felt abandoned. So, I built up this.

uh this wall. I built up a wall so that. um later on in life, what it does is. sometimes I'm closed off. Sometimes it's. my way of the highway. Sometimes I don't. want to hear what nobody else got to say. about nothing. And it's because. >> as [snorts] a 8-year-old, I waited for. my mom to um rescue me from, you know, the grasps of the uh you know, the child. care system. >> And um I didn't understand at that time. She would tell me, "Baby, I'm just. working. I'm I'mma get you. I'mma get. you." And uh every time I left the. courthouse and I didn't leave in my. mom's car, I felt like she abandoned me.

So, by the time I turned 12, I gave up. I was like, "She ain't never she ain't. never going to get me. So, this is my. life." And so, stop being, you know, stop being a [ __ ] and um G up. So, then. I took to the streets in uh sixth, seventh grade. Um start running around. and smoking weed and, you know, just. running with different gangs and [ __ ]. gangs, blood gangs. cuz I couldn't. figure that yo one of the hardest things. and you know this is funny one of the. hardest things for me in my childhood. because I come from a family of crips. was to figure out which gang I wanted to.

join because also this going to be funny. to you too. >> I love Scotty Pippen man. >> and so the Bulls I mean you know Pippen. what they were doing [cough]. [clears throat]. >> in my childhood was like everything was. Bulls and I love the Lakers too but like. the Bulls it was like Jordan right so. >> I was like ultimately. >> I started wearing the uh you remember. the starter jackets. >> Yeah. >> Quarter. Everybody on these quarter. zips, but they don't know about the real. quarter zips. We had these quarter zip. starter jackets, man. I would wear. through the hood every day. And I grew. up in a [ __ ] neighborhood and they would.

be like, "Jason Young, you about to take. that off.". >> But it was guys that I grew up with. telling me what to do with my clothing. that I would like throw over trash cans. when we was little. So, um, you know, it. got to a point where I had to kind of. drift out the hood or, you know, meet. whatever the consequences were for. disrespecting, you know, that certain. hood. So I went across the tracks and uh. got with my brother and then ultimately. chose the Bloods and from there it was. just you know a life of the life in the. streets. >> You mentioned that you were placed in. foster care because of some unthinkable.

act that your father perpetrated against. your sister. Did you have any idea this. was going on? >> Um I had no idea. again, man. I was. oblivious to it because I it it happened. once, right? And uh what happened was, if I got the story right, my sister will. correct me when this uh airs if I'm. wrong, but um. one night my my sister did something she. never did. She went to get in my. parents' bed. >> And so my dad came home high off heroin. Um and he was a recreational user,

meaning he functioned. He wasn't like a. drug addict. He just that back in, you. know, the early 80s, they would snorting. coke and they were doing heroin and they. go party, but they were, you know, normal. Yeah, >> he came home high off heroine and he. thought my sister was my mom. So what he. did was pull her closer to him and kind. of like fell asleep. >> The next day my sister went to u school. told the teacher that you know she was. touched inappropriately and um then they. came and got us all up. >> How was how old was she at the time? >> Uh she's older younger than me.

>> She might have been 11. >> Okay. >> Yeah, she older than me. My older. sister. So, when that happened, did your. father try to explain what what had. transpired or they weren't trying to. hear that at that point? >> He was honest about it. Um, and I give. him that. He said he just didn't. remember. He said he didn't remember. Uh, could have been a lie. He could have. been honest. Um, but I always felt like. he was telling the truth from that. point. But still, it didn't matter if he. was honest or or he was uh, you know, telling a lie about it. I had resentment. to him from that day on because we were. stripped about you know, from my. mother's care. And that was a moment. >> Family was ripped apart. >> Yeah. Ripped apart forever. Before that,

we used to have Sunday dinners. We would. go to Disneyland. We'd go to the beach. lake. We would go to the lake. We go. fishing. We had a real family. You know. the kind of you know the family matters. kind of show we had that. >> Um and yeah, that everything changed. after that night. >> Did your mom your did you say your dad. was was sold drugs? What did your mom. do? Was your mom in in the game also? >> My mama is uh she a. >> she was a G. >> Yeah, she a G. [laughter] My mama grew. up uh in in the Hoovers. 74th in Hoover.

is a it's a uh you know a hood in in the. mid city, Los Angeles uh South Central. And she uh she bang [ __ ] and um she also. worked at uh she banged during the day. and at night she was the manager at Taco. Bell. [laughter] She she was like you. got to think my mom had me she was 20. years old. So and I have an older sister. that is four years three and a half four. years older than me. So my mom was. already. >> was a teenager having she was 16 man but. she was she was bought her business. So, while my dad was selling drugs, my mom.

worked at um the post office at night. She would be um making plates, taking. them up and making, you know, $20 a. plate back in 1980, whatever, right? >> Um making money there. She had a. modeling agency. Um she would be, you. know, doing. >> Mom was a hustler. >> My My mom's still a hustler. [laughter]. >> She got that, man. She just had an event. two weeks ago, man. She just She's still. doing it. But. from what I can gather, your mom and dad. had a kind of like a contuous. relationship. >> Yeah, they did. >> Um, even though things seemed normal, you got you you mentioned how you went.

to Disney World and you you had, you. know, Sunday dinners and you did things. as a family. There was a lot of there. was a lot of contentious contentiousness. uh in that relationship. Do you remember. anything about that? >> I remember there was a point where. neither one of my neither one of my. parents um drank or smoked. >> anything. Okay. And then from there it. just. somewhere in the early 80s. >> cocaine and heroin I mean I guess heroin. was around but co uh crack came in.

heavy. Coke was coming in heavy. And. again man like in in our in our. neighborhood in Compton man like we I've. never seen. >> cocoa leaves or you know alcohol. distilleries or you know we ain't we're. not creating this stuff in the hood. So. somebody had to drop it there. So, I. think whatever it was going on with the. government at that time, man, it was to. strip um the black fathers out of out of. these homes, man. And, you know, up. until this current day, um we are the. most incarcerated. We are the most uh.

you know, race on race crime and it's. still, you know, still like that today, man. So, yeah, a lot of contentiousness. Um my parents were really violent after, you know, uh drugs infiltrated our. house. Um, I can remember my mom uh. shooting at my dad with a shotgun and. blowing half the door off. And another. incident. >> in the house or in the car? >> No. She pulled up on my dad uh cuz he. was cheating or something. Pulled up and. she tried to she brought a shotgun. She. tried to shoot him um out the car door, but she blew the door off instead. And.

then I can remember uh remember one time. she ran my dad over, pent him between. our iron gate at the house and our 87. regal. And uh yeah, my dad was uh he had. >> he stayed. I don't know what's up with. it, man. [laughter]. At some point in time, I be, you know, you dislodge a gun at me. I I'm probably. going to have to I'm not going to really. look at that as love, though, game. I. don't know how you see it. >> I I don't know, man. I think uh I that's. not that's not the type of love that I. Yeah, I want that play. Um and then my. mom said my dad took her to the cemetery.

where most of our family is born, dug a. hole, threw her in it, and shot into the. hole. So, I. >> I don't I had a really really crazy. childhood, man. And the fact that that. was all of that seemed normal at that. time to me says something about the. psychology of uh you know the black. child growing up in Los Angeles in the. early 80s. >> You mentioned after this incident with. your uh alleged incident with your. father and your sister foster care came. in removed you and you like had to go to. you said you had to go to therapy and. you had to meet with these counselors. and you going to court every single day.

and every single day that you went to. court and your mom you didn't get an. opportunity to leave with your mom it. put up a wall. You put up a wall and you. just said, "You know what? Cuz they. really wanted me. They get me. They. don't love me." And so, did you turn to. the gang to fill that void that family. had left because you no longer had that. because you remember the trip to. Disneyland? You remember those Sunday. dinners? You remember all the things. that you did as a family. Now you don't. have a family. You want a family because. you know what family entails. >> What I [clears throat] think happened uh. with me was you end up going to the park.

to play ball with your homies, right? um. you end up going, you know, playing. throw up tackle football. Then you end. up going to the Target or whatever and, you know, stealing or J C Penney Macy's. stealing some clothes. And I think that. you become a gang um in, you know, within committing these, you know, these. acts and then after years and years, I. mean, wherever. >> one or two of the homies drift, you kind. of follow suit a little bit, you know, and um it could be for a lot of reasons. It could be for camaraderie. It could be.

because, you know, uh I didn't I had a. father figure but didn't. Um so I had to. become, you know, my own protector. A. lot of different things. But gangs in. LA, man, I try to explain. >> the ins and outs to people all the time, but there really is no explanation. except for um just following the. footsteps of people who did it before. you or the people you grew up with. >> You mentioned that eventually you did. end up going back with your mom. >> Yeah. And what happened that you weren't. not allowed to to to stay very long with.

her? >> Um, when I got back home to my mom, I. was no longer the 8-year-old that left. >> Um, uh, you know, I had tattoos. I was. gang banging and I was from a gang that. she wasn't in approval of. Um, >> cuz inside she was. >> she never told me I couldn't be a [ __ ]. That's funny. She never like we never. had that conversation. But being a blood. was something that she was real opposed. to. She didn't really like that. Um, and. I and you know to this day I don't think. I ever asked her if I was a [ __ ] would. it be any different? But I definitely. know she wasn't.

>> with the hiding red rags in my backpack, you know, sneaking. But um I came back. home, I just wasn't the same person. We. didn't have the relationship that we had. when um. >> when I was younger. She had grown, right? Cuz my sister, she got my sister. back before me. >> Um so they had rebonded and um I think I. was just in the streets coming in after. >> Were you upset at that? Because you're. like, "You got her. Why? If you can get. her back, why couldn't you get me? >> I was removed from that. Remember I told. you a few years, you know, before that, I had already built a wall and I really. didn't feel like I had a family anyway.

So, I was coming back to my mom's house, but really just for room and board. >> Yeah. Okay. You just coming back to the. building. There was no family there, >> right? Man, what advice would you give kids today? Because you I I'm sure you you you're an. activist now. kids that come up in a. very similar situation. I I it's hard. for me to imagine now that there aren't. kids that's in this area or Detroit or. Chicago or New York or wherever else. that that's not coming up in a very. similar situation. What advice would you. give them?

>> Um I would say the the number one thing. I would tell them is is there is a. strong possibility that if you drift off. to into the streets that you will end up. dead. >> Point blank period. So at that point you. have the question, do you want to live. or die? Which is which is a question a. rhetorical question um in Los Angeles. from grandfather to grandmother to. child. It's like do you care if you live. and die? And a lot of these guys because. of what they've seen portrayed in the. hood, you know, their entire lives. And. like I said, it is it's hereditary, man.

This is passed on, you know, from. generation to generation from, you know, the late '7s all the way till now. And. me and you, we a little older. Yeah, so. we can kind of remember the late 70s, early 80s and all that. But that was 50. years ago. Like 40 almost 50 years ago, which is crazy when you say it, right? >> But um I don't think much has changed. If anything, it's a lot worse. So I. would just tell anybody that would. listen like you know there's a. possibility you're going to die. >> Is it easier if you don't have something. to live for? You don't care about dying?

>> Very very for that's Yeah, that's. accurate. Yeah. And at times even the. things that people would necessarily. have to live for they don't think that. that's enough to live for right having a. grandmother that loves you having a mom. that loves you having parents or a. parent that's going you know working for. you putting clothes on your back and you. know providing a roof over your head. like we still as adolescence don't see. it like that for some reason. You said. uh you said I think earlier that you. were able to reconcile reconcile with.

your mom but to your dad that never that. never came. Why wasn't that. reconciliation possible? >> Um I think it had a lot to do with me. Um my sister long time ago um forgave. him for whatever transpired that you. know that wicked night that kind of. stripped the family I mean ripped the. family in half. Um me personally man I. held a grudge for her though. I felt. like I'm not I'm not tired of being. angry at him. I just love the way that. my life was before before that night.

>> And you blamed him for ripping the. family apart. >> Blamed it, man. I'm talking about we had. it, man. The first day the Nintendo. dropped. The first day [laughter]. Nintendo my pops came in the house with. the Nintendo. And when I say the. Nintendo, I mean the one with the orange. duck hunt gun, you know, not the. [laughter] Everybody had an orange. >> Yeah. >> Came in with the orange one. like we had. I just had my memories were so fairy. tale before that night, man, that I was. in resentment until almost until um the. the day he died. But. >> luckily for me, which rarely happens, I.

got a chance to. >> be more of a son and him more of a. father right before he passed. I'm. talking about within the last 45 days. Wow. >> And when I woke up and I woke up one day. um to like 30 40 text messages and the. first one I saw was from my older. brother. He was just like, "Dad is. dead." And I just I I never I've never. been told that my dad was dead before. So, you can imagine um what that felt. like. It was weird. And I tell people. all the time, it doesn't matter what.

relationship you have with your parents, right? It doesn't matter if it's aranged. or whatever. >> We're all balls of energy, right? All of. us. Everybody in this room, me and you, we're balls of energy. >> When part of your creators, right? one. half of your creators dies or perishes. or goes to somewhere that is not in this. earthly realm. You feel it. >> Yeah, >> you feel it. You could never talk to. your father in your life. >> If he died, you would feel a little off. that day. And that's just how the. universe works. So for me,

>> when he died, man, it uh. >> it hit me hard for some reason. It hit. me hard cuz like I said, he was there. He was just in and out, right? >> He gave me wisdom, but I couldn't. appreciate it when I was that young. I. didn't really even give a [ __ ] about it. But now I hear his voice 10 times a day. like nah it's supposed to be like that. which in toa has helped me be a. remarkable father cuz my kids it's like. at this point in life you get to 46 you. know we are on the other half right um. my children are everything and it's all. about them and about nothing else and. like I told you you know we first.

started like I pour into them so much. I'm involved I want to know what's going. on I want to be transparent I want to. know you know the first time my daughter. feels like she likes her boy it's cool. tell me let's sit down let's talk about. it I want to know what year my sons feel. like they're going to have a kid so I'll. know when I'm going to be grandpa gang. one day like let me know and I also told. him I said you know you any either one. of y'all get somebody pregnant you know. you financially cut off cuz now you have. to be a man I got you got to figure it. out like I did and they like yeah we. think we going to chill [laughter].

these video games you know what I'm. saying so yeah man I think that. >> um indirectly he his fatherhood was what. it was but it ultimately made me a. better person. >> So you wanted to do you wanted to be. everything as a father that he wasn't. >> Exactly. >> And this is why you are how you are with. your kids because of how he wasn't with. you. >> Exactly. And I was his favorite. And I. got again I got 17 siblings. So imagine. how everyone else feels. >> Wow.

>> Your father uh normally you said your. your dad wasn't didn't do drugs at first. and and like recreational. Okay. You go. party something like that. But there was. a tragic a tragic incident in which your. brother was killed. >> and you felt that that might have led. him down that path. >> Yeah. Um so when I was um 13. uh my brother who was 16 um he ended up. getting killed. Terrible blow. Um to my. family that was, you know, my other. brother's going to be like, "Man, what's.

up, man?" But that was my brother, right? >> You know, um I loved him to death. He. made sure that I had everything that I. needed. Um, for everything that my. father lacked, um, he he he carried. right to the doorstep and he and we got. different moms, you know, >> so um, he was there. So. >> that was not my first, uh, blow um, as. far as death is concerned. Somebody you. care about cuz I've lost friends. I lost. my first friend when I was in. kindergarten to a driveby walking home. >> Um, but yeah, my brother died, man.

again I was hated the world and I think. and remember when you asked me what sent. me to to into the streets I think that. did [clears throat]. >> cuz after that I just didn't care if I. lived or die again I was young I was 13. years old I had no kids and I felt like. you know like this was it did your. brother bang. >> he did yeah so that didn't that didn't. because like you know now you I mean you. probably knew then there's a chance that. me being in this part of life doing this. in life there's a good chance that one. day I'm this fake it could be on me.

>> Yeah. So again, here's the psychology. from us as adolescent gang members in LA. or across the globe, right? Um just from. me sitting here talking to you, I can. tell you straight that I didn't care if. I died. I was walking outside to die. every day and I didn't care. And but my. thing was I have to I got to have the. upper hand. So I always I always had my. head on a swivel. I mean, obviously I'm. sitting before you, but I always played. defense when I walked outside, but I I I. woke up and walked outside with my rag.

in my pocket every day knowing that I. was going to bang. And in Compton or in. LA, period, it's a different gang every. block. >> Yeah. Every five blocks, the gang. changes. So, imagine um walking two. miles to school. How many times you get. asked where you from? And how many times. you got to make the decision to lie or. stand on it and face whatever is in. front of you? Damn. I mean, you like, "Bro, hey, I ain't. Hey, bro. I ain't about this, man. I'm. just trying to go to school, get me a. little education.". >> That's it, man. But you know what? When. when I was young, I was fearless as.

well, right? >> You know, I was fearless as well, man. I. would either tell them where I was from. or run sometimes. [laughter] I'm too. little, they too big. The crazy. >> um I told my sons this story not too. long ago. >> I was maybe nine or 10 years old getting. banged on by adults. I mean I mean kids. that were like 19 20 asking a. 10-year-old like where you from you. would have to answer that right or it. would be consequence. So it would either. you knew him and you would be like you. know.

>> f you Calvin and then run [laughter]. >> or you would just get beat up as a kid. >> and that and that that that is crazy man. when I think back about you know how I. how I came up. >> G let me ask you a question man real. talk when do we stop throwing these? I've been fighting all my life. You got. But it but it used to be you took a ass. cut and dude got the best of that was. the end of it. It wasn't a situation. where you got beaten and you went had to. go home and get that fight. >> Right. Again, man, I've never seen. >> internet change that, huh?

>> I've never seen anybody of anybody from. the hood, whether it be Hispanic or. African-American or any other race that. is in the hood. I've never seen them. >> put a gun together. Yeah. >> So, I'm saying where where are the. weapons coming from? You know what I'm. saying? I feel like at some point, man, it was a, you know, a big, you know, some big crates and they dropped them. off and the crate, you know, the the. wood fell and. >> and you could have you want cuz we we. not manufacturing these things, man. But. but for some reason, everybody got them. Um I think um in the 80s and I think it.

was a ploy by the uh you know, the. American government at that time to, you. know, infiltrate the black neighborhoods. and it's still happening today. And I. don't I think we we are very very far. from a [clears throat] place of um. where we can just rectify the situation. to be honest man. And so but but we. can't give up either. Like I said I'm. I'm with my sons you know I know you got. you know family and young cast and your. family who you talking to and like this. is you know it should be like this you.

know nephew or son or whatever but um. yeah everybody got to do their part. >> Is gang culture celebrated too much? Do. we glorify it? Do we glamorize it too. much? >> Um, I think we do and I think I'm part. of the problem. Uh, but my my story, my. history, my life, my childhood, my. upbringing, that's. >> But you live that life though. >> Yeah, >> that was that ain't I mean that ain't no. you ain't no studio gang. You actually. walk these streets as that, >> right? >> And a lot of people now pretend like. they walk the street as that and they're.

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>> Did you know that? I mean, they run. How. to get You say you kept your head on. swivel. So, how'd you get run down? >> Um, I made a mistake. I was uh I was. playing Madden and it was longer than 3. days, by the way, man. I was I was down. for almost a month. >> You was in a coma for almost a month? >> Almost. Yeah. >> Damn. >> Yeah. My mom didn't come to see me. either, but uh she said she wasn't. She. was like, "You ever, you know, >> if you if something ever happened to. you, you know what this life entails. And if it happens to you, I'm not going. to I'm not coming.". >> Yeah, I told you. So, what happened was. uh I was playing Madden um late night.

and we had rules in the you know, in the. dope house that after midnight all sales. cease cuz you know, you know, [ __ ]. can happen. >> So, um I heard a knock on the door. I. must have looked at the time and it was. like maybe like 12:30 and I was like. nobody else was, you know, in the dope. spot but me. And so if you in a dope, if. you ever sold dope, um, when there's a. lot of guys or a lot of homies in the. dope spot, every knock on the door is. the other person's turn until it gets. back to you, right? Then that's how, you.

know, everybody makes, you know, even. money. >> So at this on on this particular night, my brother was with his kid's mom and my. other homie Veil, uh, who's no longer. with us was somewhere else gone. And. then uh I think my boy aunt was gone. Everybody was gone. >> So you you at the house you at the house. >> I cleaned up that night. Yeah. I cleaned. up that night and so I was like what is. one more knock on the door? I looked. through the peepphole. It was this. little scrawny kid that always come you. know. And. >> so but you knew him. So that's why you. let your guard down. >> Yeah. I knew him from coming before but. I didn't know him like that. Um soon as.

I opened the door for him, two more. dudes came behind him and then I was in. for you know a fight for my life. >> Just like that. that it I swear I it it. felt like it happened in 20 seconds, man. So, um I ran immediately to the. table, which was probably right here. >> um to get my gun off the table, but he. got he he kind of got to it before me. So, we ended up rolling on the ground. for what felt like a lifetime. His. homies couldn't shoot me cuz we were. >> rolling cuz he might run the risk of.

shooting him. >> for some reason. Um, I was kind of. getting the gun, you know, like getting. the edge on him, so he just fired it. Um, and it went through my chest and. through my stomach and through my leg. and through my arm. >> You think your life was over? >> Um, yep. Um, I thought my life was over. Uh, I could remember them leaving after. that. I crawled down the hallway to the. bathroom that was on the right. I turned. on the light. I lifted myself up by my. elbows and I pulled my um my tank top. back and blood just splattered on the um.

>> on the um on the mirror. I fell down. I. had an extail chirp. >> So, um I called 911 myself and um next. thing I woke up, my aunt was right there. and she was like, "You know, you've been. in here for a minute." And that was. >> Damn. Yeah. >> You weren't worried about the the uh the. cops coming to the house, >> man. When you get shot, man, you worried. about nobody come to the house Jesus, man. [laughter]. >> That's it. Hey, they come they take all. this is but I tell you you saved my life. on this one. >> Yeah. And I think whoever was the. investigating officers cuz they came to.

see me um once I woke up from the coma. They they didn't even they didn't bring. up the drugs at all, man. So I kind of. think that um they probably saw that I. was young and probably was just, you. know, let it go. >> When you you wake up, you like you've. been in there almost 30 days and I now. what's going through your head? You're. like, I'm done with this is I I done. dodged the bullet. God, thank you so. much. I appreciate you. I'm out. >> Let me tell you what happened, man. You. know, we always had these come to God. moment. [laughter]. >> If you get me out of this one, I will. never do it again. >> I went to my grandmother's house. She.

prayed over me every day in the bed. while I was cuz I had to learn how to I. was shot in my leg. I was had to learn. how to walk again, right? >> And all of that. Um, so I stayed in my. grandma house for like two months. I. said, "As soon as I get out this bed, man, I'm going to church, man. Changed. my life, right? We always want to run to. church cuz I mean the church doors open. God is always there." Yes. >> So, um, I uh I went to church with my. grandma. And I was like, man, fall. asleep in that thing, man. I was like, yeah, I don't know. You know, God going. to have to catch me outside some. So, I. left there and I went back to my. grandma's house. I think another two.

weeks passed. I was hanging one of my. boys. He was in the streets like me. His. older brother is uh Cam, the rapper, right? Um, Kamal Muhammad. So, he. follows uh, you know, Minister uh, Farrakhan. Um, and he's part of FOI. So, >> Minister Farrakhan was coming to the. convention center. So was Russell. Simmons, Snoop Dogg, for a hip-hop. summit. Um, I hadn't really raped that. much yet at that point. I was just like. a fan of rap. But I was like, man, I'mma. go I'm about to be a Muslim, >> right? Because they, you know, they. dress up nice. I'm proud. Give me the.

bow tie, man. Change my life and I'm. going just be out here with the bean. pods like in in the final call like, "Brother, right?". >> You know, >> went to see Minister Farrakhan speak, met uh, Minister Tony Muhammad, and he. was like, "What brings you?" And I was. like, "Man, I just got shot long not. long ago. I want to change my life." He. was like, "You know what? what are you. into? What do you do? I was like, I rap. Lied. I hadn't I hadn't wrapped at all. [laughter]. >> But he was like, you know, they having a. uh you know, after this, you know, you. go next door, man, and they having a uh.

you know, uh a hip-hop convention. >> Okay. >> So, man, um I go next door after I see. Minister Farrakhan. Now, after hearing. Minister Farrakhan speak, I was I was. mind blown, right? >> But, uh it was like I was Minister. Farrakhan's speech made me angry for. some reason. I wanted to go out and just. hurt white people. >> [laughter]. >> I was like, "Ah, I don't know. I don't. know." Like, I want to be a Muslim, but. like, and I'm not saying that that's. what he preaching. I'm just saying. that's how it made me feel individually. I wanted to go out and get revenge for.

Harriet Tubman, Frederick Douglas, whoever, right? Everybody, Minister, cuz. he powerful, man. And so, he spoke to me. and I was like, man, well, that ain't. it. I can't just go out and like, you. know, um, start a war with white people. cuz how I feel, right? So, I went over, Russell Simmons was talking about. upcoming artists and I saw Snoop Dogg um. walking out and I was like, "Yo, Snoop, what's up, man? My name gang. I'm from. Compton. I rap." He was like, "That's. all right. That's right, nephew. Stay up." And then he dipped. And I was.

like, "Damn, he ain't even going to, you. know.". >> Oh, you want to spit a few bars for him? >> I want to try, but he was like, "Yeah, cuz do your thing." So, uh, he left, but. there was a freestyle battle. And so, at. that time, it wasn't no internet. Oh, yeah. Actually, it was internet, but the. only two um websites was like. dictionary.com and Google. It wasn't you. couldn't surf the web, >> right? >> So, I was um I knew all like Jay-Z and. Biggie Rhymes and Nas by heart cuz I was. I was like East Coast influence. I. listen to West Coast stuff, of course, cuz I'm from here, but I was like.

intrigued by like the word play from. like, you know, Jay and Nas and KRS1 and. all them. So, I spit so I spit a Jay-Z. verse in this freestyle that no one. didn't know. You know what I'm saying? Like, they didn't know it. And so, they. was like, "Yo, you dope." And there was. a cat in there named JT the bigger. figure and uh his boy Fat Rat and they. was like I want to fly you to the bay. Um and I was like fly me to the bay. Like you know I know in my in my head. this ain't my rap. This is Jay-Z rap. You know what I'm saying? But I'm like. yo they want to fly me to the bay. He's. like in the morning I'mma call you and.

um I'mma fly you out to the bay. Um he. called I went to the airport. I only. been on the plane um twice at that. point. Uh once with my grandma to going. to Vegas with my cousin stay at Circus. Circus. And you don't know about the old. Circus Circus. Uh, it was crazy back in. the day for [laughter] kids, man. It's. like Home Alone for black people. >> You know what I'm saying? But, um, so. yeah, it's my second time on a plane. I'm scared as [ __ ] but I land. Um, I. get to meet E40. I get to meet some, you. know, the Outlaw, homie. I got to meet. Rapping Forte. I'm at Two Short.

>> And my engineer that was recording my. demo is uh now the owner of Empire, Gazi. >> Wow. >> So, it's like I recorded my demo, I. brought it back. Um, I was just passing. it out. But I would go to um like write. a get some CDs. I bought a CD burner. from Fries and I would just every time I. sold some weed I went Oh, by the way, I. forgot to tell you I went back selling. weed. >> I see I But I thought you said God would. you. >> Hey man, I was. >> you done made a promise to God in in. less than two weeks, you know. >> Hey, man. Yeah, I was trying to figure. it out, man. [laughter]. >> But um so yeah, I was uh I went back.

selling weed and with every person that. bought, you know, like you know, a a 20. sack or something like that, I would. just give them my CD. Somehow they got. to Dr. Dre sister um and um my homie. Dmac and K dog was like, "Yo, Dre, want. to meet you." And then we end up going. to um to coming to the valley and I had. never been to the valley in my life. >> Wow. >> Ever. >> And I went to the valley and I was like, "Damn, this the valley. It's only 20. minutes away." So that's how small LA. is, right? So I went to the valley, walked in, Dre was like, "You game?".

>> I was like, "Yeah." He was like, "Welcome to Aftermath." And I was like, "What?" All I really got is this demo. [snorts] that I recorded, right? And. like kind of got myself through on the, you know, on the go and this one Jay-Z. verse that I spit at this freestyle, but. here I am signing the Aftermath. So I. went home, I told my mom, I was like, I'm signing Dr. Dre and she was like, what do you do? And I [laughter] was. like, I rap, you know, and prior, >> had she ever had she ever heard you rap. before? >> She kicked me out the house for saying.

that I wanted to rap when it was just an. idea. kicked me straight out, locked the. doors, and I never went back. So, I was. like, "Yeah, mine worked out." And she. didn't I don't think she believed me, right? Um but I was like, um, I'm gonna. make this happen, man. And at the at. that time, my oldest son's mom was. pregnant with him. And I was like, I I. promised uh her mother that before this. kid was born that I would have a million. dollars. And I made it happen. >> Wow. And I thought a million dollars. was, you know, [snorts] not to knock. nobody, but a million dollars is not. really as much as you think it is when.

you get to taking care of people and. handling business. >> Well, what what happened that cuz what. can Sam get his cut, >> right? Well, you know the you know it. was a subsidiary company, right? Um the. people that signed me to Aftermath, >> they get a cut. >> They took they 30%. >> Um the lawyers going to take their. percent, management takes their percent, and then I So I was probably left with. about four or 500,000. I did some, you. know, real young black [ __ ] I went to. Jacob, bought me a watch cuz, you know, that's what. >> the time zone. The five time zone, >> right? Yeah. You know, I bought me a.

chain. So, I was down about a 300,000. I. bought my girl um a little Ben's truck. I put them out here in the valley and. then I did some stuff with my mom and. then before you knew it, man, I was like. I didn't have nothing. >> Damn. >> Yeah. >> When you say your mom, you told your mom. that you wanted to rap, she said, "Nah, you can't do that here. You. >> She said get out. >> Get out." Yeah. Where did you go? I just. went to the streets. Uh I end up meeting. this girl and I never really talked. about this before. I met a girl named. Rachel um on Crenshaw because we used to. go to Crenaw like the movies. We used to.

go to Crenaw kick it. You meet a girl, you know, you roll the window down. window down. You holler at her. You lean. over the window, you know, spit your. game. And so I met a girl named Rachel. She was in college. She come uh we got. this thing in in our hood we call uh you. know the girls from two parent home two. peas. Right. >> So it's like you know me and the homies. like yo she had a two pee. Yeah. She had. two pieces. That's how she going to. college. She from a two parent home. >> So I end up. >> getting into her apartment with her and. kind of moving in slowly and that end up. being the apartment that I end up.

getting shot in because the her parents. made her move out once I infiltrated the. spot and I went in there and damn near. ruined this girl's life, man. But yeah, her name Rachel. I never seen her again. um after that. >> You don't know if she's still alive or. anything, huh? >> Hopefully she's alive. Shannon, >> she you ought to reach out. You got that. kind of I mean just to just have a pia. say look. >> I know hey. >> I just wanted to say thank you for what. you did because when I didn't have. anywhere to go you open up your you open. up your door to me and I really want to. appreciate it. >> Yeah she probably saved my life lie man. she gave me she gave me a shot.

>> Right. Um you like you like basketball. and you tell the story about like bro I. go hoop I'm trying to how. [clears throat] you hoop with iron on. you. >> So that was my thing man. Like I said I. told you when I leave the house I play. on defense. I always thought that every. time I left the house, that was the day. I was going to die. And for good reason, cuz I have, you know, dead siblings, >> right? >> I also have witnessed so many of my. friends die, right? >> You know, I remember I was uh my auntie. Betty, who uh I love dearly. Um when I.

died, when my friend got killed on the. way home uh in kindergarten, she I could. it took her maybe a week to explain to. me where what happened, right? I was. like, "Where? I'm not." So my my number. one question to her was like, "So I'm. not going to see him again?" And she was. just like, "No, baby. He's with Jesus.". And I just couldn't understand that for. the life of me. How somebody gets erased. off the earth and you just never see him. again. Um, which you know, >> in the interim.

really is some. tough psychological warfare to put on a. 5-year-old, man. >> Yeah. But yeah, um you know, speaking. back into the future, man, I would. always play basketball with my gun on. with a holster. I wouldn't got a holster. from uh Big Five, right? So, I made like. the real holster so I can like so it. wouldn't fall off when I dunked or. anything, but I had to keep it on cuz I. played basketball at some of the worst. basketball courts in LA. >> But then you can't get into the argument. cuz you know you ain't the only one that. got that stick on them. >> Yeah, we going to have to see.

[laughter] I don't know. But I know I. got mine. Hopefully you got yours. So, um, I ain't never had to really pull it. out on a basketball court, but I always. had it on me. >> Right. So, the game, how did you come up. with the name The Game? Who gave you. that name? >> Uh, I got that from my grandmother when. I was younger, cuz I remember I told you. I had the first I was the first person. on the block with the Nintendo. And it's. funny cuz when I got that Nintendo, all. my homies wanted to come over, have a. sleep. They couldn't wait till Friday, man. So, we would have our like um I had. a He-Man uh sleeping bag. homies would.

have the Nintendo joints and we just. we'd be up all night, man, playing um. track and field, Duck Hunt, Mario. Brothers, and um yeah, so my grandmother. from Texas originally, she would just be. like, "Boy, that boy, he game for. anything. No game this, game that." And. so it it was just it was just baby game, then I got bigger, little game, then. just game. And so. >> when um. >> when I when I had to choose a rap name, >> Yeah. >> I went through I had a notebook with a. with about 10 names, man. And the one. that stuck out was u Mike Rockwell. And.

uh it's going this is going to be funny. to you. Um. so yeah, I called myself Mike Rockwell. cuz I thought I rock the mic well, >> right? >> So I thought that was I thought. [laughter]. >> cuz you do know there's there's a guy. named Rockwell, Barry Gordy's son. >> I always feel like somebody's watching. me. >> Yeah. Oh, >> his name was Rockwell. >> Oh, dang. Yeah. I I thought I came up. with something that was going to change. the game. Um, but yeah, my sister was. like, "That's stupid. That's just. stupid." And I was like, "What's wrong.

with Mike Rockwell?" She said, "It's. stupid." She said, "Why don't you just. use your regular name and just put like. Mr. or 'the'? And I was like, Mr. Gang. sound like a porn star. [laughter]. And she was like, "What about like a. doctor game?" I was like, "Man, it's Dr. Dre, man." So, she was just like, "Usethe." And I was like, "The game.". And then it stuck, man. So, yeah, my. sister Shirani helped me out. [laughter]. But so you uh you meet Dr. Dre, you get. signed to Aftermath, you get a million. dollars, you go through that in little.

or no time. >> No time. My boy be my boy BD helped me. out though. He bought He gave me a Range. Ro. He He was going to get a Range. Rover. Told me if I came with him, he. would give me a Range Rover. He was. like, "Man, we can get two." And so we. went down there BD when he was playing. for Charlotte. >> Okay. >> Um Baron Davis. Yeah. I grew up over. Baron Davis, uh, Gilbert Arenus, um, Tyson Chandler, like these all my homies. went to the NBA, you know, >> except me. [snorts]. >> But yeah, man, >> you chose you chose a different life. >> Yeah. BD took me um not took me, we went.

together to the Range Rover dealership. We left with two Range Rovers and he. gave me 100,000, man. >> Damn. >> Cuz he was proud of me, you know, cuz BD. grew up in uh, you know, in 79, I think. 79 Swans, which is a blood neighborhood. And he went to uh, No, I went to Fremont. for a little bit. um which is the high. school in Baron Davis neighborhood where. he grew up. But of course he got he went. to Crossroads, >> right? >> Um because he was excellent. Yeah. Because he was excellent at basketball. But um it I think it was um I never even. asked him why he did it. I think but I.

for real think that it was just because. he was proud of me. >> Wow. >> I read that Dr. Dre is a perfectionist. in the studio and that if that thing. ain't on point, it ain't you ain't it. ain't getting out. Ain't nobody going to. hear it. >> No. >> It's not going to leave those walls. Is. that true? >> It's true, man. Um Dre will have you in. the studio for two days saying it the. right way. [laughter] He don't like the. way you said it. He'll be like, "Nah, you got to say it." And I'll be like, "It." And he'd be like, "Nah, man. It'll.

be like I'mma smoke it." And [snorts]. he'll be like, "Nah, that's not it." And. we'll just stay going back and forth, back and forth. And I had patience, you. know? Of course, he's a doctor and you. know, he's supposed to have patience, right? >> But um yeah, man. We would just go back. and forth, back and forth until I got. it. And then at the end, he would love. the one that I said in the beginning. He'd go back and pull it and be like, "You know what? This one gonna work.". >> You're like, "Man, I we done spent a. day. We done spent 5 hours, 10 hours, a. day and a half, and you took the first. one.".

>> Anybody that work with Dr. Dre will tell. you the same thing, man. >> What's the number one thing that you. learned from Dre? >> Um, the number one thing I learned from. Dre was patience. I think patience in. the game, man. So, I've never uh really. rushed through anything, which is, you. know, at the end of the day, which is. probably why I've had longevity in my. career while I'm still here and my, you. know, fans are still intact and I'm able. to put out projects. Um, you know, and. I'm and I'm never lazy. Um, I put out I. put out. >> full projects of music that sound.

collectively great, you know, and I got. that from Dre. >> Um, beats. Dre give you beats. >> Beat selection, man. Yeah, man. Anything. that Dre puts his hands on. Um he got a. plethora of producers and whatnot, but. uh it's two people in this game. Uh and. I never worked with Quincy Jones before, but I have worked with uh or three. people. I have worked with um Forel, DJ. Quick, and Dr. Dre kind of uh Swiss. Beats. >> Yeah. >> And Timlin. I guess it's it's we got a.

lot of talented guys, but these guys are. really really amazing producers. But um. Dr. Dr. Dre and DJ Quick are mad. scientists, man. And I think Quick is a. little bit um more of a mad scientist. than Dre. >> Wow. >> Yeah. >> How did you How did you become a part of. Gene Unit? >> Um. >> they didn't they didn't. >> because you weren't you you was you was. your own thing doing your thing and then. I think 50 was with with Dre brought to.

uh Dre by M. >> Yeah. And then how did you how did you. and 50y and that all come y'all became. Gun. >> Jimmy I didn't know really know what to. do with me. Um I had a buzz in the. streets but and he so ultimately he felt. like if he put me in Gunit then they. would have Young Buck from the South, Yayo Banks and 50 from New York and then. me from the west. So we would have. America sold up as far as the members. Um he would call us the Blake Black. Beatles all the time to this day. I see. Jimmy Ivy and he say, "You [ __ ] up the.

Black Beatles [laughter] every time, man. I see him." But um yeah, man. That's how I get got in there. I think. that they just um it was Jimmy's um. genius idea to just throw me in and make. sure that the group was good on all. sides. >> Would we have Let me ask you a question. Had you not joined Gunit, would the game. been able to go solo had he not been. because it seemed like it was a part you. had to become a part of this? >> Um I think that I think that um I was. signed to Dr. Dre, regardless, I think. because of who I am as a person and my.

determination to be great at things that. I do and and once I set my mind to. something, I'm going to achieve it. Um, I think I'd have been I think I'd have. been fine. But I do appreciate um my. short live Gunit uh you know uh stint, but um I think I'd have been great. regardless. >> How did you and 50 mesh so well in the. beginning? >> It's one [clears throat] of those things. where you put two people together and. they're just talented, man. It's like I. don't know, man. It's kind of like.

>> Elway and you. [laughter]. >> I mean, you know. Yeah. Like I I. remember I watched and I would just be. like, man, these dudes, you know, got. chemistry, man. It would just it it was. like Favre and Sterling. Same thing, man. Like you get you put two people. together and we see it all the time. We. see, you know, Kobe and Shaq. We see, you know, uh like uh Magic and and. Kareem. Like it's just sometimes when. you put two very talented multiaceted. people together, you going to get. greatness, >> right? >> Did you guys ever talk because it I mean.

some people would think, well, you they. bonded over both getting shot, both. almost losing their lives to to. violence. Did you guys ever talk about. that? >> Um, you know what, man? 50 don't really. talk about much but money. [laughter]. >> He Hey, he talk about money, man. >> He get it. >> If it ain't about money, he ain't gonna. He about it. >> He ain't about it, man. He talk about. money. But he he can he can definitely. tell you how to get some money. Man, >> it's going so well. Gene unit is doing I. mean, y'all come out, boom, boom. How did it how did something start so.

well end so bad? >> Um, one day I went to uh I think uh Hot 97, talk to Phone Flex or something and uh. they asked me, they were like 50 got. beef with Jedakus and Fat Joe and Nas. And I was like, whoa, I ain't I ain't. signed up to beef with guys that I I. idolized. I I had looked up to the Locks. and Kiss. They were rapping before me. I. used them as, you know, guides to like.

get me to where I was. So yeah, so I, you know, I came up on on Listen, Jakus. and Fat Joe Digging in the Crates and uh. the Digging in the Crates crew and then. Nas, man. That was like. >> my top three rappers ever. And like I. said, 50 don't talk about nothing but. money. So nobody never told me that the. group was beefing beefing. >> beefing with Nas and Fat Joe and Jakus. So I wasn't privy to it. So I was like, "Yeah, that really got nothing to do. with me." And I and and to be perfectly.

honest, me and 50, we were in the group, but I I wasn't in it for that long. And. we weren't friends, right? They just. threw me in the group, and I appreciated. the alley, but we weren't homies. So a. lot of people get it misconstrued. they. think that like we were best friends or. something and I betrayed this friendship. or something like that. But what I did. was stay loyal to you know my my my the. people that like I listened to coming up. like I just can't beef with Nas cuz you. beef with I don't have a problem with. Nas and I don't and I didn't even know. you had a problem with Nas till today.

>> So you know on the fly I just said what. I said. I was like I can't I'm not. beefing with with with Nas and them. and. they got back then they they felt you. were being disloyal, >> right? because 50 felt like he gave me a. shot which ultimately you know being. being a part of Gunit um did help. escalate um you know my career in the. early stages but I would have got there. regardless I feel like you know. >> right were you making good money at. Junit? >> Uh yeah we was making money but 50 was. making more than everybody. >> Well damn. >> Yeah. >> What what what's the issue with 50? So. you feel all y'all should have been on. level playing field. If if it's a if.

it's a million dollars you get 250. Buck. get 250. Uh uh 50 get 250. >> Yeah. Nah, man. I think that um I think. it was just one of those things where he. made more money and he should have made. more money. I was just saying speaking. for myself saying that we we was, you. know, getting scraps. >> What scraps? 150,000 a [clears throat]. show ain't no scraps, gang. >> Nah, man. It wasn't 150,000. >> Okay. 100,000. >> Probably about 75 100. >> How many shows y'all doing a show a. week? Two shows a week.

>> Yeah, man. And and I wasn't there for. them all again. So I felt like I always. felt like I was a solo artist, man. And. so I was a little honory to the whole. situation anyway. I didn't like being I. didn't want to be in New Addition. You. know what I'm saying? Like. >> Oh, so you Bobby Brown. You broke off, >> man. I'm Johnny Gil real Bobby broke off. cuz he kicked him out the group. He. ain't want to leave. >> That's what I'm Well, me it was. different, man. I always felt like I was. a solo artist. I never felt like I was, you know, part of a group. >> Damn. Did the beef get so bad you did.

you and 50 get into a shootout? Uh 50. wasn't there, but um we got into a. shootout with like his armed security in. New York. Um and they were like coming. out the back door. I think 50 was. getting in the car or something and then. the security came around the front and. then you know. >> what happened. >> having happened a little Yeah, we had a. little back and forth with firearm. >> How you how you going? Hold on. That's. you look I understand y'all. 24 years old. >> No, Gabe, you used that when you was 14. You can't use that now. 24 now. You. grown grown ass man. You got a kid and.

everything. >> Yeah, I was in it, man. But like I was. telling you before, it takes you a lot. of time. >> to um undo things that are second. nature, man. Like, you know, being just. being from the streets. It take a lot of. time. >> But y'all was doing a press conference. >> Yeah, they paid me to do that. >> I know. Yeah. >> How you going How you get paid and then. you go [laughter] and then you start the. bucket. >> Money didn't change how I felt when I. landed back in California, man. [laughter] So, I know, man. I got this.

little I got this early this early entry. bipolar [ __ ] going sometimes, man. And. uh but I think I tell I tell people all. the time, I think that uh in in some. form of nature. >> that we're all kind of bipolar, right? Because sometimes we feel one way and. then we feel another way. And so, I. think that damn near everybody's bipolar. depending on. >> You don't feel the same all the time. >> No. And so, it is what it is. And so. that's what, you know, I did a lot with. explaining, you know, my friendship with. uh with Yay. I'm like, you know, he have. his days, but we all do. And what we got.

to stop doing as people is judging. people when you know damn well when you. look at a mirror, you do not see. perfection, but we all got something to. say about somebody like we don't. >> get we don't have our own separation. Yeah, exactly. >> Is it true that Michael Jackson tried to. end the beef with you in 50? >> Yeah, man. That was a weird story that. don't even sound like it's true, man. So. how I mean so how did does Mike call. you? >> Mike called me and uh um Jimmy Henchman. who was my manager at the time. Um free.

Jimmy too man since we free and puff. free. [laughter]. >> But um yeah he called me in my room. I. think we was in um uh Vancouver. He was. in Canada. >> He said, "Man, Michael Jackson on the. phone." He said it so nonchalantly. I. was like, "Huh? What?" Yeah. Michael. Jackson. He said, "Michael Jackson on. the phone. uh pick up your phone. [snorts]. I pick up the phone rang and uh they put. Mike through and I pick up the phone. It. wasn't Mike. It was some British dude. and he was like, "Yeah, Mike be he'll be. here in 20 20 25 minutes." And I was.

thinking to myself, "Why you just ain't. calling 20 25 minutes? [laughter]. >> Y'all expect me to stay on the phone for. 25 minutes?". >> So, I put speaker phone on and I left it. on and I went, you know, anybody that. know me knows that I play video games. all day. So, I'm in the hotel playing. video games. >> and I left it and it's got like, you. know, the Michael Wait for Michael. Jackson music. It wasn't like beat it or. nothing. It was just like regular. elevator music. [laughter]. >> But um yeah, man. He came in and he was. like, "Hey." And I was like, "That ain't. the Hey, I know. You know what I'm.

saying? >> That ass voice.". >> Yeah. He didn't have that that that. like, "Hey, it's Michael." He didn't he. didn't sound like that. He sound like a. regular dude, >> right? >> So I'm But you could tell it was Michael. Jackson, >> right? >> Um so I was like, "Hey, what's up?". >> And he was like, "Um" he was like, "You. know what I want to tell you?" And I I. was like, "What?" And he was like, "That. how we do. That how we do. Magic. It's. magical. It's magical." And I was like, "Yeah, it's a really good song." He was. like, "No, it's magical." He was like, "I was riding in the car the other day. and I told my driver, you put on that 50.

and game song. That how we do. It's so. magical." And he was he said it's. magical about 30 times. I was like, "Okay, it's magical." But then he said, he said, "And then you know what you. guys did? You followed it up. you came. with that how we do and now it's a whole. magic show. You guys are so magical. together. He was like, I don't. understand why you guys are at odds are. beefing. He was like, I got an idea. We. should we should fix the beef on my. album. >> And that's when he lost me. And I was.

like, everything after that was like, >> why we going to put it on your album? Why did I put it on by. >> I don't know. It's Michael Jackson. number one. But it. >> I was just. >> You didn't think he was being truthful? You didn't? >> No. I just was like I I hated 50 so much. at that time. I just was like Mike threw. me off with that and I was just like. >> yeah he lost me in the conversation so I. end up hanging up. >> YOU HUNG UP ON MIKE? >> I did. >> Come on Gabe. You can't hang up on Mike. That's the greatest artist ever. >> Yeah I know man. If I could again man. 24. [laughter].

>> You get into a beef with John with John. >> Yeah I took that one on with 50 early on. because I knew about that one. Okay. >> You know what I'm saying? And and I felt. odd about that because I was cool with. IrvGTI, but I was on Aftermath and when. Get Rich or Die Trying got uh dropped, >> 50 was going straight at J. I hadn't had. an album out yet. So, I kind of like had. to I I. >> You piggybacked it. >> I piggybacked off that one and I didn't. and but again, I didn't have no business. in that beef. I wasn't even in Gun yet,

right? >> I just went in. But I thought like, you. know, aftermath like I got to I got to. show up. And so I I jumped off the uh I. jumped off the uh ledge with that one. >> [laughter]. >> You mentioned uh uh Kanye uh you and you. and Kanye said Kanye was friends but and. uh. >> he's go he goes through some things like. like bipolar. I mean one moment he's. like extremely there's no denying his. talent. We're not here to defame the man. with his talent is second to none. His. his rap album he produced he does all. that. But don't you think sometime game.

he goes overboards. >> again? And it's one of those things. where I'mma find myself back in, you. know, back in that realm of. non-judgment, you know, and my. grandmother, God rest her soul, told me. a long time ago, like, you know, you. can't be judged by man. You can only be. judged by God. So it's like. >> sometimes I go crazy. Yeah. >> And so I can't be like, damn. Yeah. I. think you going a little crazy. Like. sometimes I do. And so all I can do is. be some some [ __ ] though in my head. I'll be like, god damn it. Damn, Ninja,

you. >> don't call me this week cuz I'm going. have to do it with you. You know what. I'm saying? >> But um yeah, man. I'm I'm just in full. support mode of my brother and me and. Yay been down before Rockefeller, before. uh Aftermath, before all that. We would. uh um see each other around LA. Um we. were both trying to get on and just. always, you know, exch exchange like. words and freestyles and all that. So. that been my brother for a long time, man. And I actually like I actually love.

him like a brother. That's my guy. >> But you guys had some had some. differences before. >> So yeah. So did you and Sterling? [laughter]. >> No. You know what? I I ain't going to. lie, Gabe. I don't think we've ever I. mean we, you know, we fought like. brothers like cuz he trying to, you. know, he tried to get the best of me. I. can't let him get the best of me. >> But no, because our relationship was. totally different. Even though he's my. brother, he's three years older. He was. always more like a father figure and I. treated him as such. Same thing. And so. where I would like somebody that I did. that wasn't my brother, I would curse. Dale. I never curse my brother. I never.

curse my sister out. >> because it's like a father son. relationship. It's like a mother son. relationship. So I have too much respect. >> to get into it. Now my homeboy, yeah, I've cussed some of them out. >> Yeah. So that's how it [laughter] is. Except that yay with Yay, man. He not. he's just not my typical homeboy, man. And again, man, he go through, you know, his episodes. And so as a friend, as a. brother, as somebody that actually cares. and lo and loves him, >> right? >> Should I just leave him by the wayside?

Nah, man. I should call and like talk to. him. And a lot of people, they see. what's on the surface. I talked to Yay. behind the scenes, man. And a lot of. these situations, um, or sometimes where. people might feel like he's diving off. the deep end. Um, I mean, diving in the. deep end, like I call and be like, "Yo, is this, you know, >> is this what you what we really doing. right now?". and then he'll say whatever he say, but. then he'll call me back days later and. be like, "You know what? I feel like. this." But again, that's that bipolar. disorder that we may all possess uh, you.

know, certain, you know, amounts of. >> I'm just trying to figure out how how. this man supposed to feel. You supposed. to be a boy. Y'all cool. And then you. say he slept with an old lady. >> You know what, man? I I Let me get You. 24 again, huh? >> I was 24. [laughter]. >> No, but you know what? I met uh I met. Kim before Yay. >> Even though you met her before Kanye, even if that even and I'm not saying. it's true or untrue, but let's just say. for the sake of argument this is true. Why would you bring that up and say it. publicly,

>> man? Sometimes. >> I guess 24. Damn. >> No. No. I think I was probably 30 then. But [laughter]. you know what, man? Sometimes, man, you. wake up and choose a little violence. >> Yeah. Yeah. For sure. And and I if I was. sitting here and I told you or I try to. make up, you know, an excuse for my. behavior at times, there just is no. excuse. It's just the the wrong thing to. do on the right day, you know, like I. don't I don't stand on none of that. I. shouldn't have done that, but I did it. And you know what? Yay. Who was honest.

as he is, he called me. He was like, >> you know, I love you, >> but can we not ever talk about my wife. again? And they were married at this. time. Yeah. And I said, "You know what? Even though I'm bigger and stronger, you. got that. >> right.". >> So I gave it to him. I was like, "Man, I'm not going to do that no more." And I. haven't like. >> Did you call her and apologize? >> Nah, I don't think you got to apologize. to them. >> Yeah, you do, man. You put that woman. business out there like that, Gabe. Damn. >> I mean, her business was out there.

>> But that ain't got nothing to do with. you. Let somebody else do that. I'm. talking about you. I'm talking about. game. I ain't talking to them. But if I. get them in in the cross from me, I'm. going to ask them about that, too. >> Yeah, man. You know what it is with uh. >> Chris, I got a lot of love for uh Chris. Jenner, man, and Chloe and and and Kim. and Courtney, man. Still to this day. Yeah. And uh you know, we we we came up. together, too. Yeah. >> We were when we was going around, you. know, partying LA in the beginning uh. the early stages of my career, it was. Paris, Kim, Chloe, Courtney. We was all. chilling. Um but yeah, man. It just, you.

know, sometimes it is what it is. But I. I'll apologize to to Kim today. >> Yeah. I appreciate that. >> You know, right here. >> Oh, right here. Hey yo, Kim. Shannon. want me TO TELL YOU. >> NO, NO, THAT AIN'T NO [screaming]. APOLOGY. YOU CAN'T SAY I WANT YOU TO DO. THAT. YOU SAY, KIM, I was wrong for what. I said and I want to apologize. That's. how you do it. >> All right. No, Kim. I was uh I'm. apologetic for the way that I displayed, you know, or discussed or inter. relations with the public. >> Okay. How about that? Uh, [snorts] you.

mentioned that Kanye gave you Did Kanye. give you two Maybox? >> Yeah, man. See, that was what Kim was. talking about. She was talking about. that thing on the special that they. like, okay, where did the Ferraris go, Kanye? Where did the Maybbox go? Where. did they go? And you, why would you take. that? >> I didn't take them, man. I I told him. not to send them. And I asked him, I was. like, man, I asked him 20 times. I was. like, you sure? He was like, yeah, man. I owe you a lot more than these cars, but it's just I don't need them. I'm. going just get some more. And then I.

then I I got them and I was like, "Damn, it's it's like a little small dent in. one." So he probably saw that one was. Den and just wanted some new ones. I. don't know. But yeah, he gave them to. me, man. And he, you know, he said it. was just one of those things. >> And you accepted them? >> I tried not to accept them, man. >> You ain't try very hard. >> I even tried to send them back and he. said no. >> I give you some used shoes. You gonna. say, "Nah, bro. I I'm good.". >> Yeah. They weren't really used. [laughter] They was they was still still. brand new, >> man. I mean, because she felt that.

people knew he would have these episodes. and would take advantage of his. kindness. Is that like she would ask him. like, "Kanye, where where are the cars?". And it's like, "No, I gave him such and. such. I didn't know you was the such and. such.". >> Yeah. I mean, not I mean, she probably. talking about, you know, his history of. like giving away. >> Yes. Yes. But um we don't frown upon um. you know Jeff Bezos when he gives away. things or you know people that have a. lot of money man sometimes they're. charitable. And I'm not saying I'm a. charity case but I'm saying people that.

have amassed a certain fortune may not. be as materialistic as the normal. person. So it's like they see you know. cars every day. So it's probably like. nothing. Let me just get the game. He. probably you know. >> you did you keep them? You still got. them? >> They over the day they at the house. I. don't drive them as much as I would like. to cuz I like to bring them out. together, but I'm only one person. So, >> how you going? Well, let your old lady. drive one. >> Hey, man. You and she does. [laughter].

>> I read what you said you didn't want to. be a billionaire. Why would you want to. be a billionaire? >> That's too much money, man. >> No, you can help some people. >> So, if I was a billionaire, then I. wouldn't be a billionaire. >> Cuz then I would be gave it all away. It's too much. >> You ain't got to give it all away, but. you could. I mean, there are some causes. that I'm sure you would like to help. >> Let me tell you, man. Anything above. 100,000 is. >> 100,000. >> I mean, 100 million. >> Oh, okay. I was going to say. >> anything 100,000 that's going. I don't. know where you going with that. But. anything above 100 million is just ex. way too much, man. You don't No one.

needs that much. >> I don't know about that game, but I sure. like to find out if that's too much. >> Shannon, you rich, man. I mean, I'm I'm. healthy. I got my life. I got my kids. I've got people that love me. Yeah, I'm. okay. But uh a a billion. I just think. about all the stuff that I could do like. help my university, Savannah State. There are a lot of causes that I would. really luck to get behind and to really. help. >> Right. Which would make you not a. billionaire anymore. >> That's okay. That's what I'm saying. >> But see, if I had a billion, so if I had.

a billion and I gave like 500 million. away, I'd still be okay. >> Yeah. That's still too much money. You. going to end up giving more away and. you're going to get back to probably. where you are now. Just. >> No. No. No. like they going to get that. much away. [laughter]. >> Yeah. Me, man. I'm not I'm not that. materialistic, man. I don't put a I like. I don't put any love value into I mean. like any love into material things. Yeah, I got nice things, but I don't. Anybody that knows me will tell you if. my car get broken into or somebody steal. something from me, man. It's like I.

don't care. >> What if you caught them breaking into. your car? >> No, that's a different issue. [laughter]. >> Well, you don't care. It's a material. thing. Just hey, go ahead. Hey, go. ahead. >> At that point, man, you are you're. challenging my manhood and you're also. in violation of my home or my private. spaces. So, I got to get with your ass. [laughter] Point blank. >> I read that that when you first started, even though you had all this money, you. still lived in the hood. >> Yeah, man. I was 24. >> It just 24 was really effed up year for.

you, man. You did a lot of crazy issues. >> It was cuz I had money, man. I had a lot. of money at one I remember one point at. one point in time man I had 4 million in. the safe right in the hood. And the. reason I did that is because. every morning I wanted to see it. >> right. >> I wanted to open the safe and see and. make sure that I was still rich cuz I. couldn't believe it. >> Right. >> And so I never put in the bank until one. day my mom was like, "Boy, you about to". She was like, "Boy, you about the. stupidest [ __ ] I ever met in my. life. Number one, you have number one.

record on the billboard and you still. living on the block. And number two, you. got all that cash over there that can be. taken from you any day. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. So she made me put it in the bank. >> Yeah. That that had to be a big ass safe. cuz that's a lot of cash. >> Then I lost 30 36% of it. >> How? >> To Uncle Sam, man. >> Oh, bro. >> Come on, man. Soon as you put your money. in the bank, it's gone. >> But you first of all, you going to have. to pay taxes on it when you got it. anyway. >> I know. You ain't gonna pay nothing.

Well, you don't. Long as I long as I put. that combination in, open that door and. every time I did it say, [cough]. >> but living where you were living and. driving nice cars, you know, that brings. on resentment. That brings on jealousy. And you have to be careful because. people like, "Oh, >> man, this ninja just trying to show out. in front of us.". >> And then you know what that hap? You. know what happens? You know, jealousy. brings on resentment. resentment brings. on people want to do things to you.

>> Yeah, we had several shootouts um during. uh the process where where the. documentary was out. We had a lot of. shootouts, but it was normal to me. I. was already I remember one specific time. the one that changed uh there was two. incidents. I went to the documentary. album release party with the whole front. window shot out my Range Rover. It was I. didn't have a window so I was on the 110. freeway with the wind just coming. through the car. pulled up, parked. because I was like, I can't not go, you. know. But we had just had a shootout and. one of one of the um bullet holes went.

through my son's car seat. >> and that was the uh turning point. That's the day I was like, "Yeah, I. can't this. I can't do it. I'm out. >> Can't do it over here no more.". >> You You didn't think that was odd? >> Until I saw the bullet hole in my son's. car seat. Then I knew I knew it was I. was tripping. >> You got up. So after that, you like I'm. out. >> I left everything. I got this problem. where when I move, I leave everything. that I had in the previous house. I just. leave it. I've done that about five. times in my career.

>> But you brought but you uh purchased. some homes on the block. >> All of them. Yeah. And I had uh But see, that's another thing why why us why it. was hard to really take advantage of us. in the hood cuz we lived on a codac, right? >> So if you came down there, you was. trapped. You there was no other there. was no outlet, right? And so it was 1, two, three, six houses on the block. We. had them all. All the homies lived in. all the houses. And before you even made. a right on the block, somebody would. stop you at gunpoint on the corner, roll.

your window down, and ask you who you. here to see. Now, had I did that in this. day and time, I'd be up in that thing. fighting a Rico. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Yeah. But again, something about when I. was 24, man, [laughter] it might be. Kobe, you know? It's my lucky number. >> When you look at like what happened to. Nipy. >> Yeah. >> Nipy ended up getting gunned down in his. own hood, which is tragic because he. tried to do so much to help the. community where in which he came. >> and it was someone from that very.

community that took his life. >> Yeah. >> When you look back and you you think. like, damn, that really really really could have. been me. >> Yeah. the difference between. the difference between that situation. and I again I wasn't I wasn't there and. Nip is one of those one of those great. humans man that that he he was going he. was going to do a lot more um a lot more. for a lot for a lot of people and he was. going to be probably bigger.

a bigger structural. structural figure for [clears throat]. adolescent youth in Los Angeles than. I'll probably ever be. Um because my. thing was. >> to get out and never go back, >> right? >> You know, and that's how I felt. I felt. like Compton took so much from me, LA. took so much from me. Why do I want to. go play reindeer games on the block with. the homies when I'm already I've already. made it out? So, I limit um I limit my.

presence um in the hood. But when I do. go, I'm going 30 and 40 deep. And I'm. not saying these days, you know, these I. mean, if I do go out, it's still the. same. But um yeah, man. >> You got to roll like that in your own. hood. >> I mean, or you can roll up to Jesus and. tell them why you here. >> That's just how it is, man. That's how. it is. >> But but but then. they get mad and well game don't come. back because y'all don't appreciate me. Why? Why? Why come back to this? I left.

this. Yeah. And I think, you know, y'all. should appreciate and be happy like, man, he was the ones that made it out. You see, guys, you can make it out, >> right? >> Why Why are we we us like that? Um, I. think. I think it's the way the way you come. back, you know. Um, and Nip and Nip did. it, he did it the right way. I think. that it was just one of those things. that. it was one of those coincidental tragic.

times where the devil meets a higher. power and then they intersect and and. the outcome was uh him meeting untimely. demise. I think about that day um when I. got that call a lot. I also think about. times where where situations I put. myself in could have rendered me. helpless. Um, and and for sure, like I'm. not going to sit here and lie to you. I. there's no way I should be alive today. after everything that I've been through. I've I've I've brushed I've had brushes. with death multiple mo and I mean.

multiple times, 20, 30 times in my life. to where I've somehow miraculously, you. know, made it out. Um, and that's not. everybody's story. So, is it luck? Is it. energy? Is it I don't know what it is, man. And I just I just know that NIP not. being here no more is is as as tragic. today as it was on the day that it. happened. Um I I hate that that happened. to. uh such a good person. >> and I knew him. I was part of uh you. know his come-up story you know and uh.

that was the first time. >> in our I think in our lives that we seen. a rapper get killed and lose his life on. the internet in a video that we could. watch. >> and so that was so impactful that it was. [snorts] it was a it was a deathard. around the world and so that's why I. think that it's important for his. brother Sam and for his family and for. us as uh you know friends and fans ends. to make sure that his legacy is uh.

everlasting, man. Cuz he was a super. solid guy. >> You said something very interesting. and I asked you, I said, "Why can't when. we make it, we go back?" And you said, "It's how you come back, gain." So, you. mean to tell me if [clears throat] I. leave that neighborhood and I come back. and I've made it, be I'm an NBA. superstar, I'm a rap star, I'm a. entertainer, how have I made it? You. mean to tell me I got to come back with. those same raggedy clothes? I got to. came come back in the same raggedy car. >> No, when I when I said it's how you come. back, I mean like.

>> in a week I got to uh I'm the grand. marshall of the Compton parade. Okay. >> Right. >> Yeah. >> I'm going back, >> but I'm coming back on that type of. time. >> Okay. >> And so I said, um, you know, Nipy was. Nip Nip was an exception cuz he put the. Mariton Marathon store there. He was. always back giving to the neighborhood. and he was um, you know, maybe a little. bit more present than he should have. been. Yeah. Um, but yeah, I think I. think it's how. But then again, man, sometimes, man, God has his way with all. of us. And we can't I mean, I don't I've.

never met a human that could question. God. [snorts]. >> Does sometimes I think access you. mentioned like he was accessible. Sometimes access breeds resentment, >> right? >> Oh, no. It No, you're 100% right. Um, like I said, we at that point though, you're at the mercy of. negative energy and the powers that be. because it doesn't matter. I It really. doesn't matter what you do in life. If. >> if something's going to really happen.

and it's in the cars for it to happen to. you, it's going to happen. So that's why. [snorts] your elders in your family or. people that are older than you will. always tell you like you better pray, you know, you better you better give it. to God and stuff like that. I think the. number one thing in life um is having. faith because faith will drive you in. other things. And I'm not as religious. as you know anybody else, but um I will. say that having faith in yourself and. faith in the day and faith in your moves. and making conscious decisions will.

yield better results uh going forward in. your life. if you just take your time. >> What made you uh you was on stage and. you Snoop Dogg and Dr. Dre and y'all. passed the torch to Kendrick. Why did. you feel you needed to do that? >> Um cuz I knew what Kendrick was the. first time I ever heard him spit. And so. I when they called my name, I got up out. the bed, I shot downtown and I made sure. that I was present for what I knew would. be a historic night. >> There was a lot of there was a lot of. crit you caught some criticisms like. like I wanted to sign Kendrick. >> Yeah. >> And then there I don't know if it was in.

the engineer say somebody that didn't. happen. Yeah. >> So, you [clears throat] want to clarify. that one. >> But the thing about that is if you tell. me you want a Subway sandwich, right? >> How can I tell you that you don't want a. Subway sandwich? >> Okay. I see what you said. You want to. sign it. >> If I say I want to do something, I it's. what I want that you don't need. validation. >> for wanting to do something. Correct. If. you want to go to Aspen this winter, >> one of your homies could be like, "No, he don't want to go to Aspen." He don't. >> I do. I said that's what I wanted to do. >> That's what I'm saying. So, it's just.

it's just that, man. And you can't, you. know, we can't entertain everybody that, you know, has an opinion on things that. we say, but I I know 100% sure you can't. tell anyone what they want to do if. they're of conscious, you know, uh, mind. >> When Kendrick mentioned you in the song. Black Boy Fly. >> Yeah. >> But when to have your to have your name. mentioned in a song, what does that what. does that mean? Is that is that the. ultimate sign of respect? Is that the. ultimate validation? >> Um, yeah, man. I think that for him to. do that showed uh his early onset um.

vulnerability. Um his his adoration, respect, and appreciation for something. that I got, you know, um got out the. gate a little earlier than him on. And. uh I'm appreciative uh you know to the. fact that he did that um to this day. >> Who's the best co Who's the best rapper. on the West Coast today? >> Game. >> Damn, that was quick. >> Yeah, it ain't. It's Yeah, that's it. Ain't nobody getting at you. >> Can't nobody outright me, man. And. anybody that knows, anybody that knows.

will know cuz people can't. Even if you. are like, no one can do what I can do. Like no one has my skill set. Cuz not. only am I do I have the ability to wrap. circles around people. I'm also with all. the [ __ ] too, if it came down to. that. So it's like I'm Yeah. I'm I'm I'm. the best rapper in this town. Damn game. I mean the OG, man. There's some OG's, some heavyweights. I mean, Cube, Snoop, >> I love Cube, but Cube can't outwrap me. I love Cube. And by the way, the reason.

that Cube can't outwrap me is because I. used Cubes, you know, I use Cub's legacy to help me. sharpen. I used Snoop's legacy to help. me sharpen myself. I used Dr. Dre, NWA. So, it's like those guys came before me. You know what I'm saying? So, it's like. >> Kobe, right? You know, Kobe watched Mike. growing up. >> for sure. Absolutely. But. >> you see the way he walk. You see the way. he chew that gum. He got the the wrist. band on his elbow. >> Now Mike in Kobe's prime, Mike couldn't.

hold Kobe. >> No. >> But that's because he came before him. and he done with it. I'm not saying if I. was in 1992 with Cube, Cube might be. able to, you know, >> go crazy, right? You know, but right. now, like, no, it's not it's not a. rapper on the West that can that's. better than me. >> You still the best rapper from Compton? >> I'm definitely the best rapper from. Compton. Definitely. Definitely. Is it? Uh, I think we're going to talk. about it. Maybe talk about I'm gonna. talk about it now. Now, we just saw who.

had that versus we had uh No Limit and. and uh Birdman. >> Oh, yeah. Cash Money. >> Cash Money. >> Yeah. >> So, who would you want to do a versus. against? >> Um I I'm not I'm I'm more of a fan like. I'm a fan of uh of the versus uh series. Uh more of a fan than I am a. participant. Okay. Um, and I think that. um, you know, with my career, there's. only a few names that could really that. really even make sense, you know? >> Right. >> And I think the only person that I could.

probably be on a versus with is probably. 50 or something like that, >> right? >> Yeah. >> You still got beef with Suge? >> No, I talked to Suge like a few months. ago. He was in good spirits and uh, you. know, he gave me my props. We had our we. bumped heads over the years. Um, but. again, I don't I I don't duck no smoke. So, he ended up finding out that uh you. know, the hard way. >> What's your relationship with Drake? >> Drake? Oh, Drake. That's that's my. brother, man. That's my brother. I don't.

cut no corners about uh my friendship. with Drake. He always been solid with. me. He ain't never done me no wrong. He. always look out, you know, for the kids. when they want to go to shows and. whatnot. And he ain't never he never. done me no wrong. So. >> when Drake comes to come, when Drake. come to your home, to your hood, >> right? >> What is the undertaking that you have to. take to make sure he can get in and out. and have no issues? >> Well, it was all it's all love. But. number one, you have to be accepted and. loved in your hood. You know what I'm. saying? Which I am. I've always kept it.

a buck with people from my neighborhood. coming up. I've been in Compton all my. life. So it's not like I'm some implant. I've been there all my life. My life. I. know everybody. Everybody know me. Um, people see me while I was in my, you. know, in my dark days and know what I'm. was capable of when I was on that type. of time. And at this point, all around. LA, it's just a it's a respect thing. Like I I, you know, I get nothing but. like, "What's up big homie? What's up. gang?" Like I that's all around LA from. anyhood. So I think I'm far removed from.

getting banged on and tripped on cuz at. this point like you know I'm a household. name so it is what it is. But yeah, Drake it was it was easy in easy out. >> [snorts]. >> I mean, when you like I mean, he's got. to be one of the biggest artist well. rappers. I mean, yeah, I think he's. probably the biggest. >> Yeah. >> Right now. Uh, one of the biggest. artists. I mean, you can make a case. I. mean, maybe Beyonce, Taylor Swift. I. mean, maybe they're they're right there. But to hang out with somebody, somebody. like him. I mean, like, you don't look. at him like the outside world looks at.

him. You look at him like a homie. >> You know what Drake does? um whenever. he's in my presence, man, he always. makes me feel like the bigger brother, >> right? >> There's always a respect. And I don't. think I think with him I it's never been. a. >> I've sold more records than you or I got. more money than you cuz he done done. both. He when you ever you breaking. Beatles records, Michael Jackson doing. all that. Um as a you know, a rap artist. or you know, whatever. I Drake Drake. doesn't even have a.

>> a music genre to fit in. He just he just. Drake, you know. It's one of those. things like I'm not black emoji, I. guess. [laughter]. >> But um yeah, man. Uh he always he's. always humble, man, in my presence, man. And I really really appreciate that. It. makes it easier to um navigate the. friendship that way, >> man. When you heard Drake like, "Man, Drake suing his label." He like, "Huh?". >> Yeah. [clears throat]. >> What? Yeah. Nah, nah, nah, you misheard. >> Yeah, that's me. I I don't sue. But. that's just me. And again, it's one of.

those things where I can't judge a man. for doing what he thinks is just for. himself, his career, his legacy, and his. family. I'm not that it has nothing to. do with me. >> Um I did I did say um that I didn't that. I don't think he should do that. But. again, I'm just that's just me being a. brother. He don't he don't have to. listen to me. [snorts]. >> Do you believe rappers need to check in. when they come to LA? Cuz you see this I. mean, I've seen it before that somebody. go to Chicago or they go to the Oblak or. they go to this place and they need to. check in. I think people get that uh get. that twisted, right? Um this ain't the.

old days where you come to LA and and. you we going to you know bully you or. say what say you got to do this or else. I think it's just [snorts]. >> put you in a better position if you know. somebody that's from. >> the city that is in the genre of music. that you're into. You give a call like, "Yo, I'm coming. What up, Brody?" Just a. courtesy call. And then me genuinely, if. you my homie, I'm going to make sure. that you're straight, that you got guys. that know this area. You know, when um.

America sends troops overseas, >> they got a liaison, somebody that's over. there who knows the area, who speak the. language, >> speak the language, who down with our. cause. So that's what it is. I don't. think it's a bully sh night checkin. thing. I think it's just like you. should. Um, and you know, in the past. we've seen how it goes ugly when when. you don't. And I don't condone that in. any way. I think it's. >> I I don't like that. The passing the pop. smoke, the P&B rock thing, like I I. don't I don't like that at all.

>> Right. >> You went to Detroit to record with M? >> Yeah. >> What [snorts] What was that like? Had. you had you met him before? >> Um, yeah, I met him before uh in in LA. after a few a few times. Like he was. around like we were all tightknit in. those days. But I went to Detroit and. that was probably the um. the craziest studio session that I've. ever been in. Man, >> what what made it so unique? >> Because M eats like Taco Bell like like.

it's like gum. [laughter]. Like he just eat Taco Bell. Taco Bell. and he drinks Mountain Dew. And he also. he uh sometimes he writes his raps in. circles on a paper and then when he read. the raps he turn it the opposite way. So. he reading like that. Yeah. It's crazy, man. But um one of the most talented. rappers alive and uh that's ever been. And um yeah, that that experience in. Detroit was kind of cool. Especially. >> when when they told you because I'm sure. they probably told you about M before.

you actually saw him. And they said, "Man, hey, this white dude, bro, Spitfire, man. I get, bro. The last dude. y'all told us spitfire was Millie was uh. uh. >> Ice Ice Baby Vanilla Ice. >> Yeah. >> No, no, no, no, no, no, no. He He liked. that. So when you heard him his first I. don't know if you heard his his record. or you heard him in in the studio. When. you first heard him, >> what went through your mind? >> Um when I first heard um Hi, my name is.

I saw that on MTV and I was like, damn, this [ __ ] is weird, but I like it. I. never heard anything like that. I didn't. know you could talk about your mom and. [ __ ] on TV and like, you know. >> Um, so I thought it was crazy. So by the. time I met him, I was probably like. pretty much already a fan of him in the. early stages of his career. Um, so be to. be on a label with um, you know, a guy. that. >> out wrap Jay-Z on Renegade, you know, was uh, crazy for me. >> Is that what you try to do when you go. on somebody? When somebody ask you for a.

feature, you get on somebody, you try to. you try to bury them. Anybody that is. getting on a song with me, they know. that they better go crazy because I'm. definitely gonna go crazy. Especially if. it's my song because I get I get to I. get to hear what you did and then live. with it and then go crazy. Right. >> But yeah, I'm I'm I'mma try to be my. best on every song that I'm on. >> Well, then what how you and M end up. having a beef? >> I was 24, man. >> Lord have you ain't aged a bit. Dang. >> Nah, you know what it was, man. I was.

pissed off at Dr. and he can't outr me. So, I was like, let me just try to throw some shots at. him. So, that's what it was. Another one. of games bullheaded decisions that um. pissed a lot of people off. [snorts]. >> You do a lot of stuff to piss people. off. You you went at you went at Hoveve. >> Yeah, I did, man. Early on. But hey, man, I survived through it all. >> You Hey, you ain't You ain't got no. apology letters or nothing. And And. >> I don't really, you know, I'm not doing. >> It's okay to made me apologize once, man. But I'm just saying it's okay to.

apologize. YOU WERE WRONG. GABE DAMN. >> I wasn't wrong for going that hole, man. That like that was the And still to this. day, like like Jay-Z is Jay-Z, man. That's rap royalty, man. That's like. >> rock and roll hall of fame. Like you. know what I'm saying? Like that's ho. So. it's like. >> if. >> when you was on when you was on the. field, man, right? Like you you you. running like a you know post corner, right? Yeah. And [ __ ] Ronnie lot out. there. Yeah. And he one of the best. safeties in the game. Like we ain't we.

gotta catch the ball and we got to run. him over. >> Yeah. >> You know what I'm saying? So it's just. it's just like that. It's just my. competitive. >> But I ain't going to say run and sit. your whole ass down. You need to go. home. >> Well, but you going to tell him that. with your skill set and that's what it. is. So me I use my voice to translate. my, you know, my my aggression and you. [laughter] use your uh your legs and. your arms. >> Is there anything that you wouldn't say. under this track? >> Hell no. And that's what makes me. dangerous. The most dangerous. >> Man, you got some stuff you got to keep,

man. You can't keep going below the. belt, though. Uh, gang. Damn. You got to. keep Hey, right here. >> Oh, you stay away from kids. >> Yeah, I don't do Yeah, kids. >> Okay. >> Yeah. >> But other than that, >> other than that, it's up all the way up. >> Oh, Lord mercy. >> So, you do you go look do you go looking. to start beef? >> Sometimes I do, man. Sometimes I find. myself in beefs. I don't have no. >> You ain't got no business. >> Nah, man. But it's Yeah, it's just my. competitive nature, man. I get I get.

angry sometimes when, you know, >> But you ain't even in the game, >> huh? >> You ain't in the game. They playing. basketball. You a football player. >> But I'm always in the game, man. Sometimes I sub myself in. >> That's what I'm saying. [laughter]. >> They got too many men on the field, man. >> Yeah. You know, sometimes, man, in like. certain, you know, certain sports, man, somebody at the bench, on the bench get. mad, they just run in the game. >> Yeah. Yeah. >> You've seen that happen before. [laughter]. >> Collab. Is there anybody that you. haven't worked with that you want to.

work with? >> There's one collab that um I always. wanted that I'll never get um and I. wouldn't do it um you know, post their. uh death. Um it's Amy Wine House. I'm a. huge Amy Wine House fan. >> Oh yeah, >> I saw her documentary man. She can sing. Lord have mercy. That was. >> I'm a big fan of Elton John, too. >> Okay. >> Yeah. Just like abstract. >> collabs that nobody would ever see, man. Like, you know, >> you said NBA Young Boy is this. generation's Tupac. >> Mhm.

>> Why you feel that? >> Well, number one, it's not I didn't make. the decision. >> These kids did. And it is what it is. But I respect it, right? Cuz you. couldn't tell me nothing about Tupac and. you can't tell these YN nothing about. NBA Young Boy. And that's just what it. is. >> I mean, they they go crazy. Like I. >> Have you been to the concert? >> I haven't been to the concert, but my. son went and I like from his videos, right? From his videos, the videos that. he sent me, I don't see nobody like. going that crazy. And I see people going. crazy at concerts, but I seen kids. crying, man. I seen kids crying. And I.

ain't seen nobody crying for nobody. outside of maybe like. >> Michael Jackson. >> I seen people crying. Morgan Wallen of. Michael Jackson is the cry maker. Everybody at Michael Jackson, he gets to. sing and heal the world or, you know, human nature, everybody's crying, you. know, drifting out make a make a grown. man cry, right? >> But yeah, other than like, you know, the. uh Beyonce, Morgan Wild, like I'm not. Taylor Swift, the Swifties, they they. cry. >> They go crazy. >> But um. >> NBA Young Boy is a rapper, man. And so.

rappers making people cry. Like I. haven't seen that since like, you know, like. >> Drake, and I can't say peak Drake cuz. Drake is still he's the most stream. artist like. >> Yeah. this year still. >> Yeah. >> NBA Young Boy tweeted, "I want to drop. this album then die. My life is. literally perfect. [clears throat]. I'm just not happy." It's me. >> Yeah. Um, when you read that, I know where that's. coming from. And I don't know anything about his.

personal life. I just know NBA Young Boy. selling out concerts, being a remarkable. young artist. Um, but you reading that. he got he got a problem with a woman. For sure. >> You think so? >> For sure. You only We only want to die. when we lose our girl. For real. I'm. just being honest, man. And so if I had. to give him advice, man, I would just. say. >> there's so much more to live for. >> There's number one, there's so much more. to live for. He he got he got a lot of. kids, you know. Um, he's also a very. very talented guy that is changing a lot.

of people's lives, man. man. He given a. lot of people motivation, inspiration, no matter what we we older OGs feel. about it, man. NBA Young Boy is one of. those guys that has a lot um a lot to. live for. Um as far as uh you know, again, the tweet, man, I would just say. pour into yourself, man. And whatever. you got to do um cuz I'm assuming that's. either it like it has to be about a. woman. anytime that I wanted to kill. myself, it was probably about a woman.

and we and he probably just throwing. that out there. And God forbid that he, you know, actually does something to. himself. I don't think he would do that. And and I really hope he doesn't. But. >> just again, it's what I told you at the. beginning of the show, man. Maybe he. needs to take a break from music and. pour into his family, his girl, his. kids, and do that because I find. >> I find myself being my happiest self. when I'm surrounding myself with people. that love me the way that I love them. So, I would say tap into that. >> Um, you also said Lil Baby and Lil Durk.

would be the Jay-Z and Nas of this. generation. >> Dirk, uh, I had G Herbo and Herbo like, man, look, in my heart of hearts, I. believe Dirk gonna come home. So, I. would. I would word that different. I would say. that. Kendrick and JCole would be more of the. Nas and Jay-Z. >> um of this generation, but. >> uh Dirk and um and Lil Baby are great. talents, man. And and I hate to see Dirk.

and the jam that he in. >> And uh yeah, free him, too, man. I'm. just to free everybody, man. >> I [laughter] I see. >> And I apologize to Kim. So maybe she. Kim, you know, Kim trying to be a. lawyer. You know, she was trying to. >> Yeah, she tried to be a lawyer. Hey, you. never know. Free to. >> You never know when you need that get. out of preju.com, man. >> Yeah. [laughter]. >> Fans saying NBA Young Boy is bigger now. than Little Wayne was in his prime. >> No. No. That's not true. Wayne.

Wayne is one of those guys, man, that I know NBA Young Boy in his heart. of heart staring in the mirror knows. that he want that he like he aspires to. be. >> right. >> that great. Now, I'm not saying that he. not on the road to greatness. Um cuz NBA. and NBA Young Boy, this is his uh this. is the resurgence, right, >> in his um you know, in his career. He. had a little legal trouble. Had to sit. down for a minute. >> Go to Club Man. Yeah, [laughter]. club man. A everybody don't know what. club man. I don't know why I wanted to.

go so bad, but then my [laughter]. grandma told me, "Boy, that's for old. people.". >> But yeah, man. Uh I think that NBA Young. Boy, if he keeps going, man, with with. his generation, right, because the. people have to put you in in these, you. know, on these pedestals. So, I think. that if he going if he keep going at the. rate that he's going now, man, and. selling out these arenas and making. these kids go crazy, man, that he who. knows, man. But Wayne Wayne Wayne is the. goat, man. Where would you put Wayne? Because like. when people's like, "Okay, give me your. Mount Rushmore. You know, they have Na,

they have Jay-Z, you know, you have this. rapper. You Where would you put Where. you put Wayne?". >> I don't I I think I've got to the point. in my life where I don't like putting. artist in order. I would just I just. know Wayne with Jay and Pac and Big and. M are all Andre 3000 and you know the. other guys that Biggie are all just all. in the top 10 like just like like just. scribble scrabbled up there, man. in no. certain order. I just think that I I. know for sure that Wayne's up there, >> but uh Young Boy tried to charge you.

150K for a verse. >> I think that was his team, man. I can't. see and I can't see uh Young Boy doing. that. >> But that's the going rate. >> It's the going rate, but I I just think. it was like the wires got crossed cuz. I've never paid for a verse in my. career. >> Time different. >> I mean, this was a time ago though. So. again, I think sometimes. >> it might be 250 now. >> Yeah. But so the thing is sometimes your. management has your best interest at. heart and they'll throw out the rate. Sometimes the artist doesn't know what. goes on. So again, I don't think NBA.

Young Boy himself would charge game for. a verse, >> right? What's the most money you charge? You charge for a verse. >> Yeah. >> Whoa, whoa, whoa. >> Yeah, but yo, but here's the thing. I. don't charge my friends or rappers that. I think are top tier for verses. I just. don't. >> Okay. >> But then a lot of people. >> But see, that's how that's see that's. how the rich stay rich. Yeah. >> Who get all the free stuff? >> People that can afford it. >> Who get all the free verses? Artists. that can afford it. >> Yeah. No, you're right.

>> What I'm supposed to do, man? [laughter]. You didn't make the rules, huh? >> I got kids to take, man. >> Bird. You You almost signed with. Birdman. >> Yeah. Birdman is like uh just. one of the biggest Game fans, man. He'll. tell you himself, man. He'll be like, "I. always been a fan of Game, man." and he. wanted to uh sign me in the beginning of. my career, but I just um you know, I had. a choice to make and um I felt like Dre. was the best fit. >> Right. >> After being in the rap game for almost.

two decades, what have you learned about. this business? >> That it ain't [ __ ] that people it people. everyone uses everybody, right? [snorts]. >> You know, I had what you call last T. pay. He said that. >> Oh, yeah. >> He said everybody that tell you they. brother, they not your brother. They. your brother sh I seen the whole. interview. I can tell you what he said. [laughter]. >> Yeah, he got us he got he got in some. little hot water too. A little bit a. little bit. A little bit. But again man. again we not in judgment. I felt like. what he said was accurate to how I feel.

Now I'm here on Club Shay Shay. I tell. you the same thing. I think I don't know. you know what needs to happen. But the. [ __ ] level is it's I don't know. It's t it's just it's it's blowing the. RTOR scale, bro. Like it's crazy. Why we. can't why why can't we just be. [clears throat] honest with each other, bro? I'm doing this feature. That's what. it is. I'm not your brother. I'm not We. We doing business together, >> right? >> And it's okay. We can do business. together. But it's that when you lie to, oh, that's my boy, that's my friend,

that's my partner, that's my boat. And. then. >> you doing flong behind my back. But then. again, um, to go off what T pay was saying about. himself, a lot of, and I don't, and I. don't know if he did this, but you'll be. able to tell me like a lot of that is. our own fault, right? Should we be. thinking everybody's our brother to. begin with, >> or are we young and then we grow wise. and we understand that everybody ain't. our brother? So, I think that whatever T. pay went through in the industry, which. is similar to what I've been through in. the industry, you wouldn't be who you. were today unless you went through those.

experiences. Everybody in NFL wasn't. your brother. All the cats that you ran, you know, that you went to training camp. with who you might have saw in college. when y'all were young, right? And cool. Like when y'all get to the NFL, it's a. it's it's a competition. >> Yeah, it is. But don't tell me you my. partner. Oh, that's my boy M man. Me and. game cool. >> So, a lot of people throw that. >> I think that we do that a lot as humans. these days, right? We love bomb, homie. bomb, brother bomb, friend bomb, and do. all that too much. And I don't know what. that is, man. I just I I definitely.

limit um who I call like family, brother, and do all that. And I told you. in the beginning, man, like I I'm really. adamant about pouring into who pours to. me because it's yielding more positive. results and making me happier every day. of my life. >> So, is it a situation the business you. like, hey, ain't nothing going on that. ain't ain't is but the bad contracts. You feel like people push you, you had. to you signed some bad deals, you got. put in some bad situations. I feel like, yeah, I feel like the the there's a mass.

agenda to take advantage of younger. talented artists that transcends music. It goes into every uh business in the in. the world, whether it be Wall Street or. the NFL or the NBA. Like, of course, if. you if you don't have the right. representation and you allow them to, you know, get you um put you in a. contractual situation where again, you. are rendered helpless, it is what it is. is you got to get your team up from the. beginning. So all younger artists. sitting here watching me speak should.

make sure that they lawyer top tier and. they and they team is on point and you. trusting the people who are down with. you in the early stages of your career. and you built something um like Birdman. and and Slim, >> right? >> Birdman been winning for I don't know. how long. You could be mad as you want, but he good. >> Yeah. >> So he did his business right. Master P, another guy did his business right. Snoop Dog selling Coronas, car. insurance, Shaq [laughter]. selling pizza.

>> Yeah. Abby, he'll Hey, [snorts] Snoop. Snoop might be the biggest thing. I. ain't I mean, have you ever seen anybody. have a bigger transformation to go from. what he was from Long Beach, California, now he doing the Olympics. He's got he's. gotten projects with Martha Stewart. Can. you get any more Lily? I always say that. my top three people in life that. everyone knows exist, everyone, everybody on earth know these three. names. >> Jesus, Michael Jackson, and Snoop.

>> Guaranteed. [laughter]. Guaranteed. Snoop. Once Snoop got with. Martha Stewart, it was it was up. It was. up. >> cuz that's [clears throat] that's a. match that nobody saw. >> Yeah. >> Nobody saw. Glad. >> Snoop get his money, man. >> He Hey, I ain't mad at him. the Navy. Seal, the one that uh killed Osama bin. Laden, >> Robert O'Neal. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Was listening to Red Nation. >> How did that make you feel? >> That made me feel kind of cool. I ain't. going to lie. You know, some things. like, you know, you you go through your.

career, man, and you got certain. accolades that mean mean a lot, and some. you could just be like, "All right." But. that one that one was kind of that was a. big deal. When you write a song, are you. thinking about the environment or the. people that could potentially listen to. that song or you just write the song, you write how you feel in that moment? >> Um, I just write how I feel in that. moment. And then at the end of the day, I But you know what? I only when I write. songs, I'll I'll write a verse. Yeah. >> And a hook. And if I don't feel like. it's um going to be like great, then I.

just won't finish it, you know? >> Right. >> So I'm not wasting time in the studio. So you so you write the verse before you. because like you you hear like ho ho. just be like dumping. He hear the beat. >> I don't think he right though. He I. think he just. >> Yeah. Like Wayne Wayne don't like write. stuff. >> Wayne don't write at all. But see those. guys man. But see the difference between. me and them is they like they were. always rappers. You know what I'm. saying? Like they've been rapping for so. long. Me. >> I I chose rap to save my life. So I had.

to learn how to rap. You know what I'm. saying? Like really learn. And it was. based off like Wayne was already I think. Wayne might have been in uh rap longer. than Jay-Z. >> Um but yeah, I just again I studied. Wayne early Wayne and all that. So it's. like those guys are different, man. The. things that I I've seen Wayne doing in. the studio is is just remarkable. >> Uh have you written for other artists? >> Yeah, a lot. What What are you on. ghostriting? because I've had a lot of. having a lot of people on and then some.

like nah nah you can't be a true MC if. you if you have Ghost Riders and then. some people like it's okay. Where where. are you on this? >> You can't be a true MC um if if you have. Ghost Riders. I don't think a true MC. >> Okay. >> Um a true MC uh to me is like a Nas or. or Jay-Z or Ice Cube or MC Ren, right? Um, uh, Kendrick Lamar, like you know, JCole. These are guys that have a skill. set to really like they can go in any.

any any rap room and hold their own. Um, yeah, that's a true MC. KRS1 and you. know those guys. >> That's KRS1. I look at KRS1. I look at. uh Rock Him. I look at Scarface. Those. are lyricist. >> Yeah. >> Ain't very many of those anymore. Uh, game. >> You know what? But it makes it it makes. it a lot easier to appreciate the ones. that are here. Like I I listen to, you. know, a lot of Kendrick. I listen to a. lot of JCole, right? I listen to um a.

lot of J. Um I've been listening to O. Yay um lately just to, you know, go back. and just, you know, really feel good. about the artistry of of music. um this. this genre of music, I mean, this this. era of music, it's not all for me, but I. can still appreciate it and I can still. and I can still apply. Yeah. I'm not one. of them, you know, them older artists. or, you know, them legendary artists who. was like, "This ain't how it was when we. used to be." I'm not I'm not doing that. You know what I'm saying? I I I can. appreciate it and I can applaud.

>> You caught some criticism because the. fans say you was rapping some of the. same freestyles that you was rapping. when you were younger. >> Yeah. Well, no, it wasn't a it wasn't a. freestyle. And I'm not a I'm not really. a freestyle artist, right? You know what. I'm saying? And most times when when. rappers are freestyling, they probably. wrote it, learned it, and then are. coming in and freestyle. >> So, it ain't really it ain't really off. the off the dome like they saying it is. >> No. And it's not a lot of people that. could do that. There's a there's a few. guys that could really really freestyle, go crazy. Uh Wayne is one of them. Kendrick's another one. Um and you got a.

bunch of like freestyle rap artists. You. know what I'm saying? >> But that's what they do. It would be. like uh Steve Curry. Steve Kerr is not a. dunker, but he can, you know, put it he. can put it in the rim. I'm saying he's a. shooter. Curry is a shooter, not a. dunker. LeBron, Jordan, Kobe, these are. dunkers. So, it's just, you know, it. different. I mean, it differs. >> But, uh, for me, I was just being lazy. in rap at that time. I they would ask me. to freestyle and I would just be lazy. I. would put like two, four bars before it. and I would, uh, spit this song that I. knew by heart because it had no hook and.

it was just long. You know what I'm. saying? And it was the Red Rose White. Silly. And so when I see my kids send it. to me first and they thought it was. funny, but I thought it was funny too. And anytime that somebody's critiquing. you or there's uh constructive criticism. or destructive criticism, if you just. embrace it. >> you you just just go with it, man. Right. You know, [snorts]. >> rapping. other people are getting involved. Where. where where are you on this? You know, you hear this this term culture vulture. >> Yeah.

>> Where are you on that? Um I think that. we all voters of something man like you. it again all we we have all these. different scenarios in the world where. we could pass judgment on anybody and. there are entities that um soak up the. culture but. >> they've been doing that since [ __ ] Levis. and Straws the the the the first Blue. Jean was made by black people you know. all the first uh you know uh you know. the soul singers and the jazz is all. black people. So if other humans come in.

man and they become culture vultures I. mean it is what it is you know we didn't. necessarily create and I'm talking about. you know black people we didn't create. everything but we created a lot lot of. it and other people created some things. like I mean you have people like Asian. people right over in China Japan all. those countries over there that created. certain things and am I like if I like a. if I like sushi am I a culture vulture. >> you know what I'm saying so it's just. like man I'm I'm getting to a I think.

and again, you know, we we we're older. >> and I'm getting to a point where I'm. just. >> more relaxed, more understanding, more. patient, more wise, and I'm not really. passing judgment, man. >> Right. >> Sample. Um. would you let someone sample your music? >> Yeah. For for the right price. >> Let me ask you a question. They sample. it. Do you have to hear their song. before you say, "Okay." Um, if you are. really meticulous about, you know, letting your music go. Um, for instance,

like Anita Baker, uh, doesn't let. [clears throat] anyone sample. I. remember, uh, when I was younger, I. think Dre tried to sample and she said. no to Dr. Dre. So, it's like some people. just want their music to stay, you know, sacred to them and their fans and and. the legacy that they've built and and. leave it in that time um that it was and. just let it be exactly what it was, which is amazing music that transcends, you know, decades and decades. Another. person that does that is I think uh. Shade, but I do think that she I think.

she let Remma use uh her u you know, her. voice on is it a crime? So, I mean, >> yeah, it just varies, man. But I'm I'm. always down, man, to, you know, support. other artists. You want to sample my. music, it's all good. But, you know. >> So, what was the hardest sample that you. had to get cleared? [snorts]. >> Sheesh. Um, [sighs]. I don't think I've ever really had a. hard time clearing a sample when you got. the the machine. And I and I mean like. >> um Inner Scope. Yeah. Innercope and and. you know, Dr. Dre Aftermath behind you,

it's it's really about the dollar. amount. So, as long as somebody can. cover the dollar amount, you're pretty. good. Um, I've never tried to sample. Anita or Shade or anything like that, but I've never really ran into any super. Tupac samples might be the hardest, >> right? >> Yeah. >> Where are you on streaming? Because I. get a lot of I mean, some people like. love it, some people that hate it, some. people say it's destroyed the music. industry as far as albums, being able to. sell albums because it seemed like. everything damn near goes straight to. streaming now. Um, I think it's another. ploy that the mass agenda came up with.

to short change the artist, talented. people. And so, I'm impartial to it. But. then people are getting streams in the. billions. >> Yes, >> we weren't selling billions of albums. So, um, I mean, you know, it's just it. it is what it is. This is where we're at. in life. We're streaming music. We. phased out of um CDs and records and. eight tracks and you just got to go with. the times, man. And and the person that. told me to do that um to have longevity.

was Ice Cube. Wow. >> He said you have to embrace where where. hip-hop is right now, man. >> And not worry about what it used to be. Man, I remember with it, you know, cuz. the old times, man, I remember back in. my day. >> You're not back in your day no more. And. it ain't coming back. >> It's not right. Um, best hip-hop album in history. >> Best hip-hop album in history. Jesus, man.

>> For me personally, >> personally, >> Miseducation of Lauren Hill. >> Wow. [snorts]. >> For me personally, >> if I'm not mistaken, I got But didn't. that get voted like the best album of. all time? >> Oh, did it? >> I think it did. Wasn't it in Wasn't it. Apple Music? >> Yeah, >> I think Apple Music voted that album. It. I I question it. I listen to it. I ask. myself how while I'm listening to it. Everything on there from start to finish. is seamlessly. >> classic.

>> And so, yeah, it's funny that this. number one all music. >> Yeah, it's crazy. Yeah, I think that's. that's it. >> What's the best rap album? [sighs and gasps]. The best rap album. of all time. for me. This is tough, man. Um, The Chronic. Wow. Wow. The Chronic. Yeah, that that album that album set us.

up for a very long time. And I mean. again, man, Snoop is selling Q-tips, Coronas. [laughter] Come on, man. >> And that wasn't that more like you do. you feel like I mean I feel like this it. was more Snoop's album. >> Yeah. >> than it was Dre because Snoop. >> it was definitely Snoop's coming out. party. >> and Snoop wrote the wrote the rhymes. too. All of them, you know, for the most. part. So yeah, him and Corrupt. But. yeah. Yeah. Chronic album is crazy. >> Now that you uh you know you're not 24.

anymore. You done fighting in the. streets? >> Am I? Am I not? >> I don't know. I looked at myself before. I left. I'm looking 24ish, baby. [laughter]. >> Yeah, man. You know, >> man, you got to let that go, Gabe. >> Nah, man. I'm on my Jim Jones fab mayo. stuff, man. [laughter] I'm You know what. I'm saying? I'm a Y in out here. >> Hey, what about ex would you do an. exhibition exhibition boxing match? >> Uh, if the money right, I'll do it. Win, lose, draw, don't matter to me. Just get the bread right.

>> No, I don't care. I ain't taking no L's. I got to I got to feel like. >> I mean, hey, it at the end of the day, man, I'm not I'm not a professional. boxer. So, if somebody got the right. bread, I'll get in there. >> against another non against another. nonprofessional boxer. >> for sure. That I'm See, I'm taking that. off off top. And you throw me extra. couple million, I'll fall. I'll fall on. the third, [laughter]. >> man. You going to take you you going to. taste the canvas. >> Take a fall. I'll make that [ __ ] look.

like the most dramatic fall you ever. seen. depending on depend [laughter] on. on a dollar amount. >> Did you beat uh Mike Tyson in an arm. wrestling match? >> For sure. But again, it's the older Mike. Tyson, man. >> Oh, so you caught it when you like 55, 56. >> Yeah, man. Few a few years I think it. was like two years ago. He definitely. strong, but I definitely won. And it. wasn't like I won. >> It wasn't close. >> No, I won. No, it was it was a little it. was a little tight, >> but um I definitely beat Mike Tyson in. arm wrestling. And you know he gonna.

laugh about it like I can't I just. playing with you know [laughter] I might. do a thing but I definitely won for. sure. >> Uh. hold on. Tell me about this this the. dating show that you was on. Change of. heart. >> Yeah. >> You try you know what. >> I wasn't 24. I was I was 18. >> Okay. >> I was 18. [cough and clears throat] My. girlfriend at the time bro listen. We. were laying in the bed chilling at my. mom's house. Right. >> Okay. >> We was watching TV. Commercial came on. if you want to be on Change of Heart.

She was like, "We should go on there." I. was like, "Okay, cool." She was like, "They pay we $1,000 for every couple.". We saw that, right? >> I'm like, " $1,000? 500? 500? Cool. Let's do it.". >> She called the people, man. Put our name. in. I'm never thinking they going to. call back, man. They called back the. next day. They were like, "Can you come. down to LA next week?" I end up getting. I cut my hair bald, man. Man, I got me a. little foo shirt for the mall, some foo. jeans, some Jordans. She got, you know,

she got all did up and we got in the car. and we drove down to LA, man. And we. went to it and that was my first brush. with like this is really like a show for. show, >> right? So, what happened was you don't. get to choose the outcome, >> right? >> They have it already written. It's. scripted. They But I didn't know that. I. thought you I thought I get to go on, you know, a little date with a chick, maybe smash, maybe leave my girl for her. and like experience something real. >> But um it was it wasn't like that, man. It was a whole production. We had to.

learn the script and read it like exact. We had to cut, take, cut and um then we. had to come back and they made decision. And when I saw my card, I was like the. why I got to get dumped, you know? And hers was like to choose. another guy. But yeah, we after that we. went home together. I mean, we went. back, drove back together, blah, blah, blah. >> So, they don't [snorts] actually go out. on a date with the other. >> No, we went on a date, but after the. show, like me and my girl, we at that. time, we were locked in. So, we drove. right back home and we had our little. check and uh we busted down. We end up.

like going to the movies and doing a. bunch of stuff and, you know, we went in. uh J Penney. I got me some Docker fits. and she got her some little dresses and. we was all right. >> So, what did you think when those those. clips resurfaced? Like, damn man. Uh uh. gang got dumped. This girl dumped and. told the other guy, >> man, I was 18. I mean, I had the time of. my life and I got paid for it. And I. think that that's just part of my story, too, man. Like, I was just, you know, when you young, man, you do all kind of. stuff trying to find your way. >> I read that you said, "I regret sleeping. with so many women because there was.

really no intent to have anything. longterm.". >> Yeah. Um, about that, sleeping with. women, just um, [clears throat] multiple. women during times in my life where I. was just going through life as a young. hip-hop artist. It wasn't. >> when I was in my 20s. I didn't really I. didn't really care, you know. We hey, I'm young, >> the girls young, we we. >> they having a good time, I'm having a. good time, >> and then and that's it. I keep your. number in my phone, you know, and then. we'll talk again or maybe we won't.

Right. >> As you get older, man, you start to. realize that because I have a type of. woman like I'm I'm into. >> classy women, you know what I'm saying? Classy, independent women who are like. not easy, you know what? meaning that. money and like fame ain't going to. really get you this type of woman. You. got to be charismatic, funny, and you. have to be a gentleman. These are the. type of women that I that I'm attracted. to. So, um frequenting. different women in that caliber of. women, you start to feel bad because. these are somebody you're like you're.

literally holding somebody's wife. hostage because these women are going. going to get married, married, a great. guy, right? So, the longer that you. prolong this relationship or this or. this uh this this these relations with. this person you have no intention in. having a future with, man, the worse you. feel as you get older if you have a if. you have the type of heart and. conscience that I do. So, yeah, I had to. slow down on all that. >> Did you feel like [clears throat] you. were a womanizer? >> For sure. For sure. For sure. 100%. And.

I don't think it was fair um to to. anybody, not even myself. >> Did you apologize to him? [laughter]. Now that's. >> I big on apology. I big on apology. >> I'll be apologizing till next Christmas. [laughter]. >> You want to say that men should stay. single uh unless they're ready for a two. week minimum of $200 lashes, $300 hair, 250 nails, 200 toes, 200 makeup, 500. lunch money, 500 drink with the home. girls, and $1,000 for clothes, not.

including rent, caro, bill. Yeah, I think that that is bare minimum. for a woman that you're taking serious. >> 500, 750, 950, 1150, 1650, 2150, 2250, not including rent, car note. >> Just stop. >> Damn. [laughter]. >> Yeah, man. So, that's like five that's. like five, six grand a month, gang. >> That's And that's that's low. That ain't. you know, five grand a. >> month. >> Oh, yeah. For LA, that's really low.

>> Like, we live in Los Angeles. If you if. you even if you give a woman 5 grand, right? And she has a decent apartment. >> Yeah. >> That's you know it's 2,700 for a decent. one. >> Easy. >> She has a car, no car insurance. That's. going to be about a,000. So that's 37, right? She got her. >> She riding the bus for a month. >> Her selfare. [laughter]. >> Her self-care, man. That's going to be. about a,000. >> Yeah. Cuz you want to You want to look. nice. >> now? Yeah. 4700. So then the bill, cell. phone bill, all that. She going to be. flat broke. >> Yeah. So, what I was saying is if you're.

going to take a woman serious and you're. the type of man that I am, like I'm a. caretaker. I just that that is my um. >> you take over everything, you hit the. door, you like, I got this. >> I got you. I got you. If we're. exclusive, this is what I think that you. deserve based on how I was raised by the. three women that I was raised by, which. would be my aunt, um my auntie Pat, my. mother, um and my grandmother. There was a lot of Cam Cam Newton caused. a lot of controversy that he asked this. girl.

>> who she been with body count. Don't do. that. >> Don't do that. >> Uh-uh. >> Cuz [clears throat] he said he didn't. want to be he didn't want to be Kiki in. some guy face knowing that. >> I [cough and clears throat] don't mind. Don't Don't tell me. >> I'm with you. >> Yeah. I don't when you're right because. we. >> we always be like, you know, like you. got to give women credit because they. strong. We do a lot of [ __ ] and. women put up with it, right? >> But women lead with emotions. We lead, you know, we lead with. And um so, you.

know, sometimes, you know, my girl asked. me, you know, like what what is it? And. I be like, I don't know. Like we men in. general, you can be tall, fat, skinny, rich, poor. We all have this thing to. where we like to frequent multiple women. which makes me believe that I don't know. somewhere in our creation that we're we. weren't supposed to just be with one. monogous. >> Yeah. We weren't supposed to be like. that or else why do we have these urges. we didn't create ourselves. Right. I'm. still a work in progress myself. >> Um.

>> but women they're faithful and they're. intuitive and they know when you're. doing it anyway. They just know somehow. like but yeah, women lead with their. emotions. So take this, your girl, most. women, right? Especially the the good. women, they're not just going to go and. have sex with somebody. No, they're not. They have to be fully moved on. They're. not even going to do it for revenge. >> They have to be emotionally. detached from you to move on, >> right? >> We can be in love with you, still go.

have sex with a woman. As soon as we get. that post and that clarity, we are. Scooby-Doo legs back to the house. Hey. baby, how how was your day? [laughter]. Huh? You know, hella hella hella like. walking in there like, you know, we. don't know what's going on. But yeah, man. Like women and men differ in that. in that space, man. And so, you know, as. men, as real men, we we just got to do. better. >> Where are you on your homeboy? Your. homeboy dating this girl, she f 5 510, 165, nice hair, lashes, nails. I mean,

she nice. Oh, it's thick. >> Yeah. 510 though. >> Mhm. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. She on up there. You know what I'm. saying? You on up there. You know what. I'm saying? >> Like stack. >> Yeah. Stack like dirty laundry in a dorm. room. You know what I'm saying? >> I don't want no issues, Clay. >> So, they break up. You cool with holl at. her? I think that I think I'm cool with that. >> Oh, no. The answer was no. [clears throat]. >> Here's the thing. The answer is no. >> No, it ain't. Let me tell you why. Let. me tell you why. The reason is is love.

is a really mysterious fruit. >> And the person the woman that's dating. your homie, >> yeah, >> that might be your soulmate. You don't. know. And if he didn't marry her or he. doesn't have children with her, then she. just goes back into the single market. with everybody else. >> Yes. For somebody that don't know her, >> right? But I just feel like, >> which is me, >> I feel like it's better if you know her. No, it's not better.

>> Yeah. >> No. Yes. >> So, how you invite your homeboy? Hey, homeboy, come on over, man. Let's watch. the game. And then here she come out. there. Hey, gang. What you want to. drink? >> No. But guess what? Again, the type of woman that I'm. attracted to is never going to date my. homie ever. Never. >> I mean, never and ever is a long time. >> It hasn't happened. I'm I'm half dead. [laughter]. cuz I'm saying if I if I'm when I was. you know 45 3 days ago when I was 45 you.

double that that's 90. I mean, am I. maybe I live to 90, but I'm on the other. side. Like, yeah, man. I got to be I got. to be real, you know, a realist. And. people would agree if they honest with. themselves, but you got a lot of people, they going to cut this up. They going to. see clips. They going like, "Game say, you should [ __ ] with. >> your I'm talking about your your homie.". Homie, I ain't talking about I I ain't. talking about somebody in the industry. that you was cool with or something like. that. I'm talking about your homie. >> I feel like [snorts] if you guys are not. engaged, not married, and you do not. have children, that that woman is fair.

game. Mm-m. She not fair game. >> I don't know. [laughter]. >> He is off. She is off the game. She off. the block. >> I don't know about. >> agree to disagree. [laughter]. >> So, where are you on spinning the block? >> I don't really I don't really spin the. block, man. I feel like what's in the. rear view is in the rear view. And then, you know, like I know. >> Mhm. [laughter]. >> Ain't nothing like that. No new. >> I don't know. probably just, you know, hey, maybe it's time for me to spin the.

block. Let me know how that work out for. you. [laughter]. >> You had a really had a reality show. called Marry in the Game. >> Yeah. >> You still want to get married? >> Yeah, I want to be I want to be a. husband. >> You want to be a husband? >> Yeah. >> I mean, just entitled or you want to be. a a husband? >> No. No. That's why I'm not married. because I ain't been right. I haven't. been husband husband material up to this. point. I think but I think uh that I'm. the best version of myself that I've. ever been now as far as like you know. relationship is concerned these days. like you know.

>> you have been engaged. >> I've been engaged twice. >> Who called it off? You or her? [clears throat]. >> Um I think the first one I called off. cuz I was just immature 24. >> And then the second [laughter] one uh my. kid's mom she called it off cuz I was. running around. >> You got the bad huh? She a school. teacher, man. She just wasn't going for. the disrespect. The public the public. disrespect. >> Yeah, for sure. >> Um, you have a new kid. >> And it's Boy, they they tearing you up.

game. I had to look at it. They were. tearing you up. >> Tear me up, man. >> Yeah. Kind of bad. It's like you have. How you have a kid from your friend's. dog? >> Yeah. So, the thing is is my kid's mom. went to. um Evelyn's baby shower, but they are. not friends. Okay. >> She just went to the baby shower. >> You know what I'm saying? If you go to. Taylor Swift concert, it don't make you. and Taylor, >> you know. Yeah. You're just there. But. yeah, they So the public fans or. whatever, they just got that part, you.

know, twisted like they're not they're. not friends. >> Okay. So she just happened to be at at. the shower. >> She just came to her baby shower. >> Okay. Uh I thought baby shower was like. invite on. But okay. No, I I. >> Man, you got to you got to get with. these women. But what I can tell you is. they're not friends. But again, man, when you're dealing with, you know, grown, immature, and classy women, man, they, you notice that they don't really. speak much on it or have anything to say. negative about it or feed into, you. know, the internet's pool of like.

explanation. >> Did you know who she did you know who. she was when you saw her, when you met. her? >> Yeah, for sure. But then again, you. know, I don't be having no filter. sometimes, Shannon. [laughter]. >> I am a work in progress. So I mean you. like classy, you like she like. independent. So this might. >> like two peas too. >> Yeah. Two two she might come from a you. know might come you know this might be. your best chance. >> Yeah.

Who might be my best chance? The. >> situation you in right now. >> Oh yeah. You know hey you never know. man. >> Tick tock. Tick tock. >> I'm on the clock for sure. >> Yeah. >> My grandmother used to tell me man we. only live for three scores in a 10. You. know what that is? >> No. >> That's uh it's in the Bible. I think uh. every score is 20 years 10. So 70 years. is if you live 70 years then you lived a. good life. >> for sure. >> And you [ __ ] we you you almost I got 57. something under. But Bill see 13 more.

man. You got you know. >> get on the ball. >> Not saying that after 13 more you're. gone. But I'm saying like you know after. 13 you live to good. >> just in case. I better speed up. Huh? >> Yeah man. >> They talking about bad you need to slow. down. Uhuh. I got less time. You better. start looking at your homies exes. It. might be. >> No. No. >> Hey yo, watch. We going to see Shannon. end up engaged to one of his homies. exes. >> No, that ain't going to happen. >> You better love your life. >> Dude, I absolutely not. Would you uh. ever abstain from. premarital sex until you were married?

>> Um, I don't think I'm that guy. I think. I'm raw diggity dog. [laughter]. I ain't going to lie, man. Sometimes I can't even find the condoms, man. >> Come on, Gabe. Come on, man. >> Oh, Lord have mercy. >> You would know you wear you wear your. shoes with no socks. >> Same thing. [laughter]. You like to be free. >> Come on now. >> Come on, man. Let the church say amen in. here, man. Matter of fact, >> no, no restriction,

>> you know. Cheers, my in there, man. >> Oh, god damn. See, [clears throat] early. offset demission. [laughter]. Hey, but you caught some criticism, man. You at the wedding. How you hug the man. wife like that gang? >> Yo, that's like my sister, man. It's. >> Yeah, >> the internet is terrible, man. >> Yeah, it is. >> I've been knowing Kamaya for so long, man. I'm I'm good with her. Like, people. see that, but they don't see me, you. know, in a picture with her dad and a. picture with her mom. And then Brad is.

my dog. Like, that's my dog. That's like. my brother and my sister. You know what. I'm saying? So, it is what it is. But. the internet always gonna find something. out of something, man. Yeah, man. >> I don't know about you. You talking. about you date your homeboy girl and. >> Yeah. Not no that not that that's. literally like my sister, man. >> So, what type of father are you? What. type of father you, hey, come talk to. your dad. You you you know, you stern. but fair. I mean, what type of dad is. game? >> Um, I'm just I'm a open book. Just keep.

it 100 and we have no problems. Don't. lie to me because I'mma catch it. Um, I'm, you know, old enough to be a to be. a real father, but I'm young enough to. keep up with you on social media, right? >> So, um, >> just don't try to get it off. It's it's. not gonna work. I tell my kids that. every single time. I've got I've got my. sons to a point where they're, you know, >> adults now and they, you know, living. together and doing their, you know, they. brother thing. And, uh, so I got my. daughter and then I got my little son.

But, yeah, I parent the same way. I. treat them all the same. I give them the. same values. And you know, up to this. point, it's it's went off without a. hitch. >> Do you do you parent the girls different. than you do the boys? >> Yeah, man. My daughter, man, she she she. is a straight A student and she is the. love of my life. Um, she also has a. Christian podcast, too. We have to get. you on one, man. >> Um, >> Christian. >> Christian podcast. Oh, >> yeah. We got to get you on season two. We. >> season one we was busy, you know, but we. got you. But yeah, man, she's a good.

girl, but parenting a daughter is. >> is very different. Being a father to a. daughter that's going through. being a teenager is. >> is crazy, man. And and. >> all my kids except the the baby has had. one not a whooping traditional with a. belt, but I had to bomb my sons once. each and then they got it and we never. had a thing again, >> right? >> And so not long ago, man, I had to me. and my daughter, we had a little. challenging day and I was like, "Hey, >> is it punishment or is it a whooping?". And she was like, "Yep, punishment." And.

so that's about as far as we got it. But. I don't think I don't think I could ever. um I could ever discipline her the way. that we got disciplined ever. >> Oh no, you going to jail? >> Yeah. Oh, for sure. Damn. >> You going to jail? >> Yeah, you can still get that off in the. south somewhere. >> No, you can't. My kid's grown, so I. ain't got to worry about that. And I'm. done. >> Yeah, my mama threatened me. Can she go. to jail? >> Oh, yeah. >> Like two days ago. [laughter]. >> I'm saying cuz she go to jail. >> Yeah, you about to call that in. That's. That's a threat. >> Imagine me calling CPS. Hey, I'm 46,

man. you know, [laughter]. but yeah. No, man. My daughter, man. Um, she's my lifeline, man. And I I. definitely she's the number one drive. for everything that I do these days. >> Nick Caner said he'd rather raise a. bully than his child be bullied. >> Um, I agree with that. >> Yeah. I mean, as a father, you you your. kid's grown. >> grown. >> And so, >> grown grown. >> Yeah. So, when you raised a man, you you. didn't you you I know you raised them to. not be pushing. Nobody. >> wants to have kids to be bullied, but.

sometimes kids just get bullied. Um, so. I think I'm I'm I'm partial to both. sides because I sympathize with kids. that are getting bullied. I don't think. that's cool. >> And um, being a former bully, but I like. I bully different. Like I bullied all. the bullies in school, right? You know. what I'm saying? I've been like the same. height since. >> fifth grade. [laughter] They thought I. was going to be a giant, right? >> But um, yeah, man. I'm not I'm My kids. are not My daughter don't fight, but she. shouldn't. My daughter's like, "Dad, what would I if somebody tried to fight. me? What would I do?" Like, I was like,

"You just, you know, you put your arms.". She's like, "Oh, no. I can never.". [laughter] I was like, "Hey, well, be a. princess." But yeah, and she 5'9, you. know, >> right? >> But my sons, they, you know, they with. it. >> How you do you different? How do you. parent the oldest two boys compared to. the youngest now? How how you how are. you parenting different? Because that. was a long time ago, G. >> Yeah. Um, I'm I think I'm I'm more. seasoned as a father at this point. >> Um, and I think, you know, for the most. part, uh, during these stages, the early.

toddler stages, I think it's all mommy. and and and all financial support and. presence uh, from the father, but the. mom has to do the dayto-day. And so, I. think it should it it that's just what. it is. And it it yields better results. when you let the mom take control and. you just there to support, you know, whatever they may need, no matter what. that is. >> What's the key to co-parenting. successfully? She let the woman just run it. [laughter]. >> Pick Let her pick the school, pick the. clothes, and you just pay. That's it. [laughter] Shut up.

>> Is it hard to discipline a child? Cuz I. found it very hard to discipline my. child when, you know, they do something. and their mom would call me. I was like, "Well, what do you want me to do? I'm. not there.". >> Right? >> So, it's really hard because I don't. want the child that when they see me, I'm playing and when they see me, ah, [clears throat] I'm all in your face. like that. You know what I'm saying? So. I, you know, it's like take care of it. Now when you they're under my roof and. they misbehaving. >> it's obviously but how how difficult is.

that for you when the kids were growing. up and you weren't there on the dayto-. day and they call you like man gang they. probably they didn't call you probably. call you by your government name. >> We just you know we do it like the feds. do. We just build a case and [laughter]. when I get back when I get back I'm. going to get with you. >> That got a Rico that got a Rico charge. on. >> I'm going to hit you with the Rico. You. did this, this, and that. We going to. let it stack up if I ain't there. >> Did you see like. I think it was Kanye that he had an.

issue with I think Northwest is his. oldest daughter and he had an issue with. way the way she's dressing. Did you ever. have an issue with the way your daughter. dressed? >> Uh yeah. You know, times are changing, man. And and I never seen my daughter. dress. any more inappropriately than the. advertisements in the wall at these. little girl stores. >> Okay. >> Um, >> so that's where I gauged it from. It's. their time. They wearing, you know, their stomach out and alter tops and. little skirts and whatnot. And so we got.

we ran into a couple of little times. where I had to get it right. But. >> that's when that private school come in. You know what I'm saying? >> But dress code. wearing the same thing. every single day. You know, the skirts. got to be, you know, covered knees and. all that. So, um, she really on the week. by the time the weekend comes, she wants. to hang out with her friends. You know, usually her mom's with her now. She's. getting to a point, she's 15, where I'm. letting her go to the prominade or hang. out with her friends and all that and I. got her location. But, um, I trust my. daughter. >> Yeah, >> I trust her. We built over the last 15. years, which it felt like 30, we've.

built a good rapport with each other. And, um, yeah, I love her and I trust. her and she Yeah. again. You know, she. god-fearing, man, so she know what's up. >> Is there anything that you wouldn't. allow her to wear? >> Uh. [clears throat] um yeah, man. We not. over sexualizing ourselves. We're not. doing piercings in places where they. where I don't feel like they belong. But. I also did tell her as soon as she's 18, she can make decisions. Um that's how. I'm going to tap out at that point. And.

I think that all decisions as far as. like boyfriends and relationships and. intimacy and all that revert back to her. mother. I think that I've got you to 18. Obviously, she's going to a premier. college and from there you and your. mother should be able to navigate. through these things. I only come in. when something gets weird or. disrespectful or something like that. But I think that um I'm raising an. outstanding um young woman and she'll be. she gonna go on and do great things. >> How do you handle uh the social media? [snorts] my daughters. >> you.

>> because you know people come at you all. kind of how and say crazy things but so. so where where are you now because. >> I can't imagine and and and it's hard. because like people are so receptive and. so respectful when they see you in. person right. >> but when they can hide behind that. computer screen. >> and be in that basement or be somewhere. that's far far away out of reach out of. touch right. >> they say the most disrespectful and. reckless. >> well you got to start at the foundation. the foundation of it all is they follow. you, >> right?

>> Not the other not the other way around. So, if you are 100% um invested in. yourself, your brand, and who you are, and you're operating at, you know, the. highest level of confidence, you should. have no problem with anybody saying what. they say. It would be like the the the. Walton family in Walmarts. Like, everybody ain't going to like the. chicken in Al3. >> But we Walmart and we got 100,000 of. these stores and you can't please. everybody, man. So, I don't even if I. catch some [ __ ]. >> I'll go in there and be a troll. You.

know, I have my 50 moments where I just. go and don't care and make comedy out. it. But for the most part, I don't I. don't even read it and I don't even care. about it because it is someone somewhere. unhappy with themselves, >> you know, uh diving in with an opinion. that no one else cares to hear except, you know, this platform. And we I think. a lot of times these days we we lose we. lose the we lose sight of what uh social. media is, right? It's literally social. media. Um Instagram is a video and.

picture app. Tik Tok is a you know a. video app. You just got to understand. >> what it is that you click on. But then. again, listen, >> if I got a gambler problem and I keep. going to the casino, I mean, is it MGM. fault or my fault? >> Yeah. If I have a if I have a social. media addiction and I can't stay off the. app, then how am I going to complain. about something that's going on within, you know, that little camera space. So, it's like I don't get into all that, man. I get on there. I don't really post. that much, but when I do post and people. comment or they got something to say. about game, like say what you want to.

say. At the end of the day, I started. off trying to make a name for myself and. be great and being able to take care of. my family and provide for my children. I've done a remarkable job at that. And. so, I I don't really care what nobody. got to say if it ain't positive. Is that. how you protect your mental health? >> Um, oh, the mental health started back. in the um, you know, the foster home. when I told you I built that wall up. I. stopped giving a [ __ ]. >> about things that would like have me in. my head too much. I just don't I'm not. thinking about that. I'm thinking about. >> how many days left I got on earth,

making the best of them, and being kind. to as many people as I can before I go. >> Tell us about the tattoos. I mean, what. made you decide to get tattoos on your. face? cuz my grandmother, everything's. going to revert back to my grandmother. She told me, "My mom was mad that I was. getting tattoos when I was young." And. her mother, um, my grandmother told her, her daughter, she was like, "Well, the skin is just a costume that he. borrowing for God. Borrowing from God. for about 80 years." She said, "And you. know, at the end of the day when we.

pass, we all have to turn our costumes. back in that God let us borrow, which. would be the shell of a man. >> He is just going to have writing on it. What's the big deal?". >> [laughter]. >> And so from then, man, I just went. crazy. And and tattoos are addicted, man. Once you get one, you just keep on. going. >> I ain't got none. >> Good, man. I always wanted to be you. I. was you at one point and then. >> I ain't got no pierces. >> Yeah. See, >> limited facial hair. >> Yeah, you good, man. [laughter] Good. You living the American dream, Shannon. >> But you have, look, you got the facial. tattoos. You got a tattoo dedicated to.

Kobe. Which tattoo did you have means. the most to you? Uh, I think I got my daughter's face. plastered like right in the middle of my. chest. And um, every time I see it, I. just remember um this point in life. where she was like. >> I didn't want her to grow older than. that age. You know how it is. And then. they do and then it gets a little weird. You're like, where's my baby? But yeah, man. that that. >> they'll come back. >> cuz they go through that stage like they.

cute and then all of a sudden they get. that teenage years and they get them. hormones start going and they hate you. and then they come back and it's like. >> everything that you said. >> Yeah. >> So it's going to be it's going to be. full circle. But you she 15? >> Yeah. How's your oldest? >> 33. >> Oh yeah. See, >> so where do you get 17 18 19? >> Yeah. >> Mhm. >> [laughter]. >> acting, man. >> Or are you done with acting or you want. to get back into it? >> You know what? I'm really good at.

acting, but um I like it's the hurry up. and wait. I do I do not like that, man. >> It's like we would be shooting a movie. and they would ask us to be there at. 4:00 a.m. and I wouldn't be shooting. till 400 p.m. And I can't figure out for. the life of me why this trailer, >> but then again, it's somebody's money. They want everybody on set and you know. they may want you earlier. It may it may. change. So I get it. But that was a. >> that was the main reason why I passed on.

a lot of stuff uh in my 20s and 30s. But. now um I think I'm at that age where um. I can get back into it cuz um you know. >> kids are Yeah. You got more patience now. as you got older. >> A lot more patience, man. [laughter]. >> Is there any roles that you turned down. that you regret? Um [sighs]. I think the. the BA Barackus um role in um in the 18. >> Oh yeah. >> And it went to uh Rampage. >> Yeah. >> Yeah. >> Why you turn it down? You you wasn't. sure what your age. >> I think I [clears throat] might have. been 24.

>> Who [laughter] knows? >> That was a good and a bad year for you, huh? >> So what of all? Because you've been on. set with uh uh Tyrese, Megan Good. You. had Jamie Fox, Robert Downey Jr. and. Street Kings. Kiana Reeves, Bars Whitaker. What What's. your favorite What's your favorite. memories about being on the set? >> Um, just being in a in a place that I. know where I know I was the rookie and I. needed to be my best because I didn't. want to make anybody think that just. because I was big in one genre that I.

can come over here and just, you know, act like a spoiled rich rapper. >> from the hip-hop world. But again, man, from uh you know, working with Reese and. uh Forest Whitaker and Megan and you. know, these are actor actors, you know. what I'm saying? And so I never wanted. to I never wanted to make them feel like. I didn't I didn't appreciate the. opportunities. Um cuz the street kings. that was all Reese did that for me, >> right? Um, and so I just always wanted. to make sure that when I step into an.

acting role or when I step on set that I. am just playing my playing my position. >> If you could go back and do anything. differently in your career, what would. it be and why? >> Um, if I can go back and I don't really. regret regret anything, but if I can go. back and change anything, um, I probably. man. Yeah. I don't know. That's crazy cuz I. just don't live with regret. One thing I.

would have did better money management. I think that's it. I think when I was. young spending I spent maybe $10 million. on just jewelry in from the time that I. was 24 to the time that probably I was. 30. >> Damn. >> Yeah. And I don't have any of it. I gave. it away or threw it in the crowd or did. a lot of stuff. >> And it's like remember you're saying the. rich give rich. I gave Dre like two. watches before. >> Wow. What is the biggest difference. between the game 2005 and the one that's.

sitting on the couch across from me. today? >> Um, I think the biggest the the the one. thing that stands out when you when you. asked me, the first thing that I thought. about is that I care if I live or die. now. >> You got a reason to. >> Yeah. >> There's nothing like living for someone. else. >> Nah, that's that's all the all the joy. in life comes from that sentiment right. there. Wow. You got anything you want to promote? You got a mixtape coming out with DJ.

Drama. Drops on December 5th. Your album. drops next year. Mixtape game. Album game. >> Uh mixtape is fun. Um I don't have to. take it too serious. I did this mixtape. in a weekend. Uh my album I worked on. for a year, so maybe a little maybe. longer than that. But um that I can't my. my my my album and you know my catalog. has to be given the type of love it. deserves. So if I'm working on the album. it's serious and mixtape I just want to. have some fun.

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