Magic Johnson on LeBron, Westbrook, Kareem, Jordan and more | Ep. 57 | CLUB SHAY SHAY
you regret some things in life I regret. not calling LeBron telling him I was. stepping down right I really regretted. that right all my life. wanna slice got the rolling dice that's. why all my life I'll be grinding all my. life all my life been running all my. life. sacrifice plus will pay the price wanna. slice not to roll a dice that's why all. my life I've been grinding all my life.
hello welcome to another edition of Club. Shay Shay I am your host Shannon sharp. I'm also the proud of Club Che and the. guy that's stopping by for conversation. on the drink today ladies and gentlemen. he doesn't need any introduction but. I'll give him one anyway he's a 10-time. NBA champ five is a player five as an. owner executive a three times finals MVP. a three times NBA MVP 12-time All-Star. two-time All-Star game MVP nine-time all. NBA first team Olympic gold medalist. two-time basketball harlemen Doug D. member of the 75th Anniversary team and.
the 50th Anniversary team NCAA Champion. NCAA Final Four most outstanding player. Mr basketball in the state of Michigan. he's a leader a father a philanthropist. an entrepreneur a dreamer a fighter. I've run out of words to describe who he. is Magic Johnson but you can call him. Magic how you doing bro oh I'm doing. great Shannon thank you for having me on. you know we've been trying to hook this. up so this has been ladies and gentlemen. this has been in the making for two. years that's right now the man told me I. think I asked him at the end of 2020. we're in the pandemic he said when we.
get out this pandemic I'm gonna come see. you okay. he said I forgot about you I did not. forget about you I said Okay okay so. here fast for me 2022 I saw him in the. gym I said. eBay. talk to my assistant we're gonna get it. done I saw her we were talking I saw her. about we saw we saw each other about. three months ago I said magic say you're. gonna get me done he said well he's. going to a vacation and when he gets. back I mean he just got back. like yeah yeah you go that again but.
thanks hey thanks for your time today. pleasure brother how you doing I'm doing. great man everything going very well so. tell me about this this this this. month-long vacation that you how long. has it been how long have you been doing. it and what made you decide to say you. know what I need a vacation for a month. most people take a week maybe two you do. a month this week this year might have. been two months. well Shannon I worked so hard right and. I said to my wife cookie I said we went. on vacation for two weeks right right.
yeah and that's it man it's not enough. so the next year we did three weeks okay. I said man. so I said four weeks you said oh man we. did that for about five years and I said. that's not enough so we started doing. now five weeks but. the blessing is we've been going to. Europe for 31 years wow and so that's. our annual trip I believe if I get. everything that I want. and I know the place right why not just.
keep going back because do you go back. to the same place say a lot of the same. places and some new places in Europe. that's a long time to go so you've seen. them and everything. what haven't you seen and it's about. that right but also I love Italian food. right. go to Italy get the best man you get the. best you know it's amazing I gotta stay. on my workout. tell them tell the lottery that you have. that you that you'll every year you have.
different couples go along with you I've. seen LL and his family go I've seen. Samuel Jackson his family go I think uh. Rodney and Holly Pete that's right along. with you so how do you come up with this. Lottery yeah. I'm gonna use that one well it's it's. it's really my wife right she says okay. baby what we want to do right hey it's. on you because we we we go with couples. that you know we have something in. common right that we can have a lot of.
fun with conversation that's right. that's right watch movies with right. because on a yacht you're spending a lot. of clothes yeah. no walks. so uh we know them all of them Rodney. and Holly Sam and Latonya Jackson and. like you said LL and his wife Simone so. we know them very well they know us so. it's easy to go on a trip with them and. spend a lot of quality time with them as. well I just saw on show times you guys. had the anniversary where you guys.
reunited with the showtime Lakers how. did that come about well uh Shannon it. was funny because I called Coach Riley. and said listen man we got to do the. showtime reunion right only thing we. haven't done is gotten together right so. he he said buck that you know everybody. call me buck buck go ahead and put it. together so I got it okay I got it okay. so I called my staff and together and. said we're going to do the showtime. reunion the Lakers always trained in. Hawaii so we're going to go to Hawaii. because that's Dr bus favorite place.
okay. uh called the hotel got the Four Seasons. on board got American Airlines on board. so we got all these different companies. on board and then called the guys man. they they all went crazy and Shannon it. was the best time it was emotional it. was uh gratifying it was it was. everything all in one and then when we. got on the bus one more time this is. crazy you you know how this is everybody. got their favorite seat right right.
guess what everybody went back to the. same same seat that's when I said oh. this is awesome it has been 35 40 years. since that that's right and then I had. made sure we had the uniform so they had. their number their name on it and man we. went into the gym hey we were missing. more shots than we were making. but you know what magic as you guys have. gone about your your separate ways you. don't get an opportunity to reconnect. that's right I mean early on when you. retire you see each other all the time. but now as you become fathers I mean. grandfathers some great great.
grandfathers you've kind of you know. kind of you know moved about your. different ways some people are over here. in Georgia or where I've been right so. to get back together there's something. there's something about a bond yes in a. championship team you can play together. but that Bond because you know what it. took in order for you to win that. Championship right there was a lot of. sacrifices a lot of guys had to make and. to come back and relive that moment man. you remember wheels on that bus and. we've going to Boston you really on that. bus we going we played Detroit that's it. right there it was a Storyteller right. you know going back 30 years ago and.
what happened we were telling all the. stories some have changed because you. know we put a little extra on it right. lying a little but it was so much fun. man and then we had karaoke night every. single night I can't sing but I was up. there singing about Byron Scott can sing. right but we had a ball man just a week. just spending time together and you're. right a lot of guys live on the east. coast so I don't get I didn't see them. for 30 years for 25 years right so it. was just a wonderful time I'm glad I did.
it I'm glad Coach Riley and I came. together so we could put this together. for the showtime later talk to me about. Coach Riley because I mean every. everybody that I've talked that heard. talk about him man he tough he No. Nonsense they call him mafia. they got involved in the Pat Riley. how was he as a coach magic he was uh. what you just said he was a tough coach. only. hey I want you to come in here and give. 150 and he was a detail-oriented dude.
right we were so prepared for our. opponent right because he went over. everything whether that was rebounding. defense offensively what we're going to. do to attack their defense also too. mentally he he believed in mental. toughness right he didn't want nobody if. you wasn't mentally tough you couldn't. play for Pat Riley in the Lakers right. right and so he believed in that and. then one thing he. he was great at. identifying Talent letting that Talent.
play right and not over coaching okay. see he let you go right he said but I. don't want you to look at me call the. place right he said but I want you. running he this was this whole thing. Shannon they may not get tired in the. first quarter right they may not get. tired in the second quarter but if we. keep running in the third quarter they. gonna be hanging on their shorts but you. know magic in order for them to be. hanging on their shorts that means you. had to be in Camp and in practice you.
guys had to go to that next level in. order to get them tired late in the ball. game ran us so hard the first hour of. practice was all running. all running all conditioning and man so. when we got to the game the game was. easy man the game was so easy and I had. Michael Cooper guard me every single. practice so when I saw somebody guarding. me on the other team I'm like man you. easy right so. when people talk about like the greatest. teams obviously your Showtime Lakers. come up they talk about the Bulls in the.
90s all of a sudden I'll be uh the. Warriors of 2018 with Kevin Durant. the Celtics that you greeted we're going. to get into those where would you rank. your Showtime Lakers oh we're definitely. one of the greatest teams ever because. we had everything right we could do. everything and that's when you got a guy. like Kareem right dominate inside right. right James Worthy oh man whatever on. the break yeah yes and then you got the. shooters and Byron Scott Michael Cooper. and we had the defensive mentality as.
well we can defend you and then get out. and run so we can score inside outside. and on the break right that's hard to. defend and we had to coach because Pat. Riley is to me the best coach and that's. ever lived but he could make in-game. adjustments that were critical right and. also he motivated you so this man could. take us and play we could play against. anybody and win so how do you but how. because you guys would run and when you. think Showtime Lakers you don't think.
physical you when you think bad boy. piston the first thing come to your mind. okay they feel that's right but you guys. you had to match that mentality the. Celtics we don't think about the cell. but the Celtics was a physical a big. physical team that's right they've had. those three imposing they had bird. Mikhail in Paris seven foot Parish six. nine uh uh Mikhail six nine bird that. front last point line was ginormous but. they were physical blanket with DJ and. still the greatest front line we've ever. probably seen in basketball right they. were physical and also they were smart.
the Celtics were not going to beat. themselves you had to beat them right. right and then to Isaiah and his bad boy. Pistons I don't think there's ever been. a more physical team than them okay they. impose their will on you right right. they beat you up man right and you if. you flinched it was over for you right. so in 88 when we played them uh it was a. physical matchup seven game series we. won in in game seven but the next year.
in 89 they came back and beat us right. and they could do things very few teams. could do. they can be physical and then they had. that three-headed monster Isaiah Joe. Dumars and Vinnie Johnson right you. could you could do it and I'm not even. talking about you know John Sally and. Rodman yeah. that's right when they when they when. they brought that stuff that specific. style football to the basketball court. did you think that was basketball. yes only because.
Isaiah and and Joe still have finessing. right still it was it tough to play. against it of course right but you know. give them credit they want back-to-back. championships correct I never take. anything away from a champion right and. so they proved that style could win. right and they won with it and so give. them credit and and to me one of the. greatest teams as well because. defensively I don't know if we've seen a.
better team than the presidents right. you went to 12 you went to nine finals. in 12 years and we've seen teams that. when they start going to finals we see. when uh um The Warriors they went to. those finals the guy started the. injuries you know Clay hurt got hurt. Katie got hurt when you go tonight did. you feel that took some of the some of. your years off your career going to so. many finals because it was tough oh yeah. every single year and a lot of times you. were going seven games you're going deep. that's right no no it had to we're. playing more games than any other team.
right and so when you add the regular. season and then you add up the playoff. games as well every year and then we. were also professional so we only took. probably two or three weeks off and then. we were right back at it training so we. when I played I trained all the time. right my coach Pat Riley had to call me. said stop training right you're gonna. burn yourself out but I didn't know. nothing else right right that's I always. wanted to come in Camp in shape instead.
of using cap to get it get in shape but. let me ask you a question when you say. training obviously you see these guys. now they're doing a lot of these drills. but a lot of your training was open run. you're actually playing the game of. basketball it wasn't so much drills no. like these guys are doing now no no and. I think for me I'm so happy I played. five on five okay so that's what Isaiah. would call man we're playing in the. summer league against Chicago We're. going to run for two weeks I'm there. okay so I went to Chicago played in the. summer league for two weeks right then. Dominique would call and say hey.
we're playing in Atlanta come on to the. summer league there so we spend two. weeks with Dominique right playing in. Atlanta some of these right and then. that was before the NBA had a summer. league that might have been why the NBA. got a summer that's right that's why the. gyms were packed man all those guys in. there professionals playing in the. summer league. and then we would come to Detroit and. Lansing where I'm from right and we. would play in the summer so we played. all the time right and we even. barnstorms sometime as well went to a. lot of cities that wasn't known uh.
didn't have an NBA team Memphis. Birmingham and we would just play five. on five and people come out and see us. play. I'm gonna go to something forward we're. going to go back but I want to go to. something forward Russell Westbrook from. L.A. starting OKC goes to Houston Goes to. Washington his dream after seeing Kobe. and Shaq hold up the trophies he's been. a lifelong Laker fan he comes here and. is not going to according to playing and. I think there's no greater person to. speak to this than to you you've gotten.
booed twice in L.A that's right. you win the championship and all of a. sudden you and the coach for whatever. reason you guys can't get along and then. the second time happened in 1984 they. gave you a nickname right tragic magic. even after two finals MVP right even. after going to all those finals that's. right this is what they bestowed upon. you if you could if you if Russell. Westbrook was sitting down right here. what advice would you give it first take. accountability okay it's number one okay.
if I don't play well say I don't play. well you know you when I didn't perform. well in 84 against the Celtics right I. admitted that I took accountability. right said hey I didn't perform well I. was the reason why the Lakers lost okay. series. and I had to say to myself I got to get. better right so what did I do I went out. that whole summer I trained hard and got. better and then we played them again in. 85 next season right man I was on fire. we won no you didn't hear that no more.
right uh same thing with Coach westhead. when. after he got fired they booed me for. about a month so because that was the. first time magic because magic said you. know hey I I can't play with this guy. your boy need to go up out of here hey. couldn't Coach man just just he slowed. us down we were running team right but. he wanted to slow the pace down and. we're not a a dominant you're not a. walking the ball up at 14. that's right. half court team were running and gunning. team so I got boost so I told Coach.
Riley I said oh I'm about to turn it up. okay I must have went for about 10. triple doubles right and all of a sudden. you start stop hearing them booze right. yeah cheers okay and then we end up. winning the championship right that same. year right see and so that's what. Russell got to do. quit trying to fight the media quit. trying to fight the fan and just say you. know what I didn't play well but I'm. gonna play better right and go out there.
on the court and perform right that's. how you stop all the things that's going. on but you can't do it by trying to. combat them right and trying to be mad. at the fans or at the media because the. media got a job correct and their job is. if you're not playing well they say they. say it right and I didn't mind them. taking shots at me in 84 because I. didn't play well and the thing is with. the Lakers magic and you know this is. that the fans no good basketball oh no. question it ain't about and the fans. this is what I say about the fans of. Lakers and for being out here for six.
years it doesn't matter what you did. somewhere else no you need to do that. for us that's right for us to cheer you. into love you do that do get 100 tripled. over for us that's right like you did. those other teams LeBron had to find. that out yeah yes yes and remember when. he first came everybody was still. talking about Kobe oh wait a minute and. they wouldn't let you put no murals up. that's right remember that and so what. did LeBron do let me come in here and. turn it out turn it out let me win the. championship oh that's gone right right. he's beloved now but Russell.
we know championship basketball here we. know winning basketball so listen just. come in do your job and if you don't. play well accept that right but say it. right and then come back and hopefully. play better the next time right and then. the fans will will respect you for that. right right they respected me when I. said I didn't play well right right but. I'll be back they wanted to hear you say. that they didn't want to hear you say.
well this team they played so much. better you're like no the ball's in my. hands I've got to play better I'm the. quarterback that's right you the point. guard the ball is in your hand you're. the floor General you got to make better. decisions you got to make them layups. you know you got to hit your shots right. and then you got to play hard see where. Laker fans get mad last season. we were down there arguing with the. referees right and they were down there. dunking on us right we can't we can't. take that we can't stand that right no.
Bush your butt to get back. try to stop them when it's a timeout now. let me talk to the reference right right. I never did that not one time I always. even if a bad call I'm running back. right because I got to help my teammates. correct you know we're trying to win and. then when the whistle blows down because. hey now I'm gonna need that call and I. said you gave that call to them down. there on that here now I'm gonna need. that same call and that's all you got to. do see it's another thing you can't show. them up like this yes and hold your. hands up like this a wave of marble.
that's right that's right you got to get. over there hey man you missed that one. you missed that one right you owe me one. right everybody the the greatest. individual rivalry in basketball. you and Larry mm-hmm. proudest prior to that NCAA tournament. still with the most watched NCAA finals. game in NCAA history how much did you. know about Larry Bird prior to that game. well Shannon um. the summer before.
they had the wit tournament okay and. they brought all the best college. players together okay. to play against the world okay and man. I see this guy you know blind. all right let me see if he can play okay. man I'm sitting there watching him shoe. shining he must have made 30 in a row. all Nick so he was Steph Curry before. wait yeah yeah yeah and I'm sitting. upset.
this dude can play okay because you know. Brothers we always say Okay can the. white dude really play correct right so. then I said oh man you're a bad boy. right then we got in the game. Jack Gibbons will play of the year that. year right he tore him up man from. Kentucky Kentucky today. that same time yeah yeah okay man Larry. Bird was taking it to him oh man I'm. calling back home saying oh he for real.
he for real this through Larry Bird. right oh he got it right he's dominating. Jack Kevin and they said no way I said. oh yeah he's dominant so. here we go six seven months later right. we're playing in the NCAA Championship. Game he's player of the year Sports. Illustrated all the magazines got here. on the cover right and I said wow and. that 33-0 33-0 man I said oh. it hadn't been ranked since that's right. and it wasn't right before. and we we put two guys on it we double.
teamed them right we knew we could beat. him because Greg kelser. he was a superstar in college yeah Meg. was dominant that was the first really. the first time I started seeing the. alley yeah because you got you got you. got brought that because hey you coming. out of the corner. oh that was so great oh it was sweet man. and and he could just jump out to gym. and control his body right and he had a. phenomenal college career right so uh we.
figured two stars could be one right. that's what happened. you come into the NBA because back then. people don't realize this. they could draft you a year early he. went back to school the Celtics took. took Larry with the six pick if I'm not. mistaken in 78 the year before right and. he went back to school that's right and. so they still owned this draft rights so. you guys so you guys have this okay. how fitting he goes to the Celtics you. go to the Lakers and we know this.
robbery in the 60s that that was the. basketball and so now. did you have any idea that you guys were. gonna put basketball the NBA back on the. map and you're going to redefine what. the NBA was. no Shannon we didn't know. but what we just did was just played our. game okay. we ended up in the two most famous you. know franchises right the Celtics and. the Lakers and then his personality was.
Boston my personality was Hollywood. right right I mean they couldn't have. script this any better no and then I you. know I'm playing with Kareem and all the. guys and. who would ever thought that um. my first final of my rookie season. we're on tape delays yeah the finals. yeah that's what people don't realize. the game weren't live no no delay tape. delayed I could go play. and go home and watch myself.
that night yeah right and so. um we actually. brought the finals and all the other. games to put a lot of time TV Larry and. I changed the whole league and um also. too every other year the Lakers will win. or the Celtics right Lakers would win. those Celtics will win so it was just. great and I'm glad that we came in. together because I had somebody to. measure myself right and say hey okay.
he's great I can't let him get too far. ahead of me I got to work hard because I. want to stay in how was you guys. relationship how would you describe your. relationship obviously you beat him in. the NCAA the finals I'm 79 but how was. your relationship once you got to the. NBA because I think the thing was he was. rookie of the year I think you got like. one or two voters that's all that's all. right I think it was like 32 33 to like. one or two no even more than that it was. 60 something to like two. I hate to say that too I gotta say that.
on TV and so I was pissed man I was mad. you like hold on I I led a team to the. end I can't get with two votes two votes. became the first rookie in NBA history. to be named finals MVP I was only the. third dude ever in NBA history to go. from the college championship to the NBA. finals championship. and they were two La dudes. you know I'm like okay he's not that.
much better than me right not 63 to two. right but okay I took it I took it but. our relationship Shannon was. fracture because Celtics Lakers right. see we hated them they hated us right so. we could never yeah right right because. Riley stressed that right he said I. don't want if a Celtic go to the ground. you better not pick him up right and so. we had to hate him to beat him right. right right it wasn't until.
87 I went out Congress wanted to do a. commercial with both of us okay I flew. out to French Lick Indiana where are you. from the weapons the cons exactly so he. had the black ones I had the purple and. gold one right so we shot. about half the commercial a little bit. more and it's lunch time so I'm thinking. I'm going to you're going to the trailer. because we really haven't break broken. breaks right before like this. so as I'm taking about three steps. toward the trailer he said magic. man I like you have lunch with me up at.
the house my mom has prepared lunch. he threw the mom you know. you know. either through the mom in there okay so. I go to the to the house you know and uh. he's down there I'm down here she's. bringing out all the dishes and she. brought that last one and set it down. and she hit him said uh did you tell him. yet and Larry said no Mom you tell him. she turned and said magic you my.
favorite basketball player. and I just said oh man. that was it and then we started talking. right like two little boys right and you. know we we're we're similar we grew up. poor we're both from the Midwest we love. the game we love to win you know on and. on and that's when our friendship. evolved and grew and we've been friends. ever since. leave the mbu lead the NBA with 11.2.
assists per game here are some of the. records that you have in the playoffs. finals right you have the finals 21. assists in the finals game 2300 and 4. over 2300 says for the playoffs only. player of the average 12 or 7 12 assists. in the NBA finals and you did that six. times. playoff single game high of 24. the only. player to have a triple double in. multiple Series in game clinching game. when you look back over your career do. you think like video.
I don't know if these records I don't. know I don't know if anybody's gonna. ever get 2300 assists Mike yeah um I. don't know if somebody's gonna get to it. 21 fifth of the NBA Finals game for 24. cents in the playoff game yeah it's it's. awesome I I I've been blessed you know. and Shannon I just played the win man. right so my job was to set up my. teammates put them in a position that. they could be successful and succeed and. and that mean that meant that we were. going to win right right.
um. you name all these things I don't know. I know that I did my job and I did it. well right. um the main thing for me is that we won. those five championships we went to the. finals like you said nine and twelve. years that's all I cared about right. that's all I cared about I I just care. about winning and doing things planning. the game of basketball the right way. just like now doing everything the right. way off the court right as well so I I. love that the fact that I have all those.
records but I don't think about them I. just think about the Rings and that I. had the my love for the game and my. teammates. I wouldn't change anything a lot of. people say oh man the money they make in. a day boy boy don't you wish you were. playing today and I always say no no I. said there's nothing like playing the. Celtics. in the whole country. is watching right right and I got to go.
into Boston Garden and try to shut those. fans up right there was nothing like. that then you know playing against. Isaiah and the bad boys right that whole. series and then we only got one time to. play against Michael Jordan and it's too. bad we had to play uh only once right. but it was still a joy for me right to. play against him and his boys you played. against doctors. listen and that was my idol right right. I love Dr J tell him about the story. because if I'm not mistaken you spent.
the summer with Dr J the year before you. beat him in the NBA Finals yeah so I I. call him up I get his number and I say. Doc can you tell me I'm thinking about. turning pro right you did it already. right what's the pros and cons of. leaving school early right so he he said. you know what Young fella I'm gonna do. you one better I'm gonna fly you out to. Philly you're gonna stay with me we're. in the playoffs you're gonna stay at my. house watch us play the games and then.
we have conversations. what did you just say I'm screaming tell. my parents I'm getting ready to go to. the doctor's house I'm going crazy what. no you're a teenager yes I'm I'm 19. years old right I'm 19 and he's flying. me to Philly it was crazy Shannon so I. get to the crib man he got this big. house right I said oh. oh. [Laughter].
yep I know what I'm doing now. but for him to do that right him and his. wife right. I always tell him I'll never forget that. right he didn't have to do that he. didn't he could have talked to me on the. phone told me what I needed to know. but he said come on and I had a great.
four or five days with him and uh then. I'm playing them seven months later. he probably was probably what you showed. up in a Nissan. Chevy. because one thing about it man you get. caught. it's only a few players I've ever got. caught watching right. Dr J was one yeah yeah.
put it in his hand came up on the other. side of the rim now he walking in air. she's running against the glass and good. man I said. should we ask him to do it again. I've never seen somebody hang in the air. that don't right got the Frog yeah oh. man and he did some stuff to us. man he dunked though. Coop was the baby yeah I don't know what.
cool was thinking cool was thinking and. then he got a message. man he started rocking the baby. bam Dr J that was in the old Spectrum. right yes. and uh man amazing man just in first. class so I tried to pattern myself after. him because he was first class nicest. dude he taught me a lot right taught me.
a lot even before I got into the league. right so I owed Dr J a lot when you get. to the Lakers. the guy that's on the team is already. one of probably one of the two or three. greatest players of all time by the time. you get there he's a five-time already. MVP. he wins the MVP the year you get there. that's right what was your impression of. Kareem proud of you getting there and. then what was your impression of Kareem. once you got there he was a guy that I.
just. idolized again and. always wanted to. I was dreaming if I could just pass it. to him a couple times right and then. this coin flip happened and I end up a. Laker and. I get there. and. everybody told me listen man here quiet. dude. you know now here I am I'm allowed dude. with a big boom box. in a flashlight.
you know I'm coming in Parliament. [ __ ] yeah. and he's looking at me like. cut that damn thing off I was like. what. oh man I had to be quiet so that was our. first encounter you know that training. camp right but. so I came to him about that second third. day I said where do you like it. she's talking about I said where you.
like the ball. he said I like it up high I said what. hand you want me to throw it to. he said young fella nobody's ever asked. me that I said well hell you like it. right or left. so I started throwing it to that right. hand where he wanted it right and he. started opening up to me right I was his. rookie right so I had to bring him. Gatorade every time it was a timeout in. practice Gatorade and water I had to buy. him hot dogs they had to be beef hot. dogs every time on the road I had to go.
get his hot dog okay but I loved it. right I loved it you gained this trust. yes that's. that's what I was working on yeah. first game. we down one I remember this three. seconds to go. we throw it to him at the free throw. line right the boy turns shoots a sky. hook. on that I go running I've never seen. nobody shoot the sky oh line you know me.
I wear my emotions on my sleeves. I jumped on him I'm hugging him choking. him damn that was a good shot you know. yeah so we get into the locker room. Shannon he said come here. you got that stern look on it. rookie don't ever do that again we have. 81 more games we can't be this high. after the first game. so the whole locker room looking now. right what what am I going to do right.
and they tell me oh he got scolded so I. walked away and I came back to him. listen now I'm looking up at seven too. if you hit a shot like that 80 one more. time imma jump in your arms 81 more time. that's when they found out I wasn't. going to take no stuff I'm gonna be me. right you're gonna have to accept me who. I am just like I accept you for who you. are right. you know what. so first 20 game we high five.
Duncan but he he ain't into that right. so about next 20 game she started. looking. so he's he he came across the lane and. he dumped on somebody all of a sudden he. came running over to me. you voted. I had him then right. it's okay to enjoy yourself it's okay to. let love let go right.
man we took off our relationship took. off the team took off there it was right. there so I love Kareem smartest athlete. I've ever met in my life wow he's. amazing. LeBron James is about to do something. unbelievable and I don't know if it'll. ever be done this way again he's about. to pass you for the all-time being past. you you'll see I think LeBron before. third. you'll see us and pass Kareem for the. all-time I don't know I don't know if.
that'll ever happen no no it'll never. happen like that again. what what makes LeBron so unique that. he's able he's not thought of as a Score. first guy but here he is he's on the. cusp of being the all-time leading. scorer and he's going to be a top five. assists guy all time all that at the. same time there's nobody at that height. and size that can move that fast and. also go through contact and still score.
we've never seen it before right right. and still make his teammates better. right right so he's leading in so many. different ways. he could score. he could defend he could rebound he he. can assist we've never seen that as a. guy that size and that fast and that. strong right but also we forget he's the. smartest dude right see people I I keep. telling people his basketball IQ.
is so far above everybody else. he reads situations he reads the game. okay I need the score now oh let me get. so and so involved he can do it all and. I think. at the end of the day. to pass two Lakers you're on the Lakers. right and now you're gonna pass me and. then eventually Kareem to be the. all-time leading scorer. why and number three all time in a sense.
right wow wow you got to give it to him. yeah you got to give it to him and so uh. and. a good dude yeah a good do and smart off. the court too build an incredible. business what. what's your personal relationship. because a lot of people like try to say. well well he's not George and I've. always felt he's more you than Jordan. Jordan was a score Joy was assassin you. could score but your job was to.
facilitate right make sure everybody. else got a chance to eat I'm gonna eat. it might be a little later but I'm gonna. eat but I'm just gonna make sure they. get their helping first that's right and. he's between both of us yes so he he's. got a little Jordan and a lot of me and. the great thing about LeBron he brings. it every single night for 20 years right. because them Cleveland teams he had to. bring it yeah he he put them on his back. that's hard yeah right and he did that.
and took him to the finals yes oh man. they didn't have clearly enough talent. to be in without himself they had no. business that's right that's right so. that's why he's remarkable that's why. he's special our relationship is good. you know when I talked to him brought. him here to play for the Lakers when I. was a president of basketball operation. for the Lakers. his team Rich Paul Maverick we're all. all good. the thing that I hope.
that he'll have another shot at the NBA. finals and right now we don't have. enough Talent me shooters man yeah oh no. I mean when I'm the worst way when I. look at this roster and I watched the. game the other night I know you did too. they're a younger version of what they. were last year that's wrong guys that. can't defend and can't shoot Yep they're. just younger versions of that that's all. that's all so we definitely need to you. know upgrade that upgrade the shooting. and basketball iqc well Golden State.
beat everybody it's not just the. shooting and everything right it's also. the basketball IQ Draymond Green uh. Steph clay they so Looney they are Andre. equaled out they smart man you so you. beat you got to beat them two ways right. you got to beat them with your. intelligence as well as your game right. so that's hard to do right. you seem to be very good I mean imagine. when guys pass you as far as Alzheimer. says You seem to be cool with it how do. you think Kareem is going to take when.
when LeBron finally passes him because. for the longest time I don't think me. personally I don't think Kareem gets the. credit that he deserves no as a six-time. MVP and sixth Championship the all-time. leading scorer third uh leading rebound. of all time I don't think he gets nearly. enough credit that's right but he's. always been able to hang his hat on an. all-time lead scorer exactly now people. don't talk about the number two no these. people don't talk about the number two. score they don't talk about the number. two assists man the number two rebounder. the number two the number two blocks up. nobody cares about number two is number.
one how do you think he will handle that. well I I don't think well I mean I mean. let's just be honest if I got to say it. we got to be honest right you know um. and the fact that it's a dude playing. for the Lakers right so right you know. it's a dude playing in LA right you know. so. um I think it'll be a hard pill to. swallow he eventually because he's had. that record for almost 40 years Kareem. and I mean and I think he thought he was.
going to have it forever yeah yeah I. think he thought he was going to have it. forever because the play that long I. mean LeBron is averaging 25 points a. game for 20 years Kareem averaged 24. points again so somebody to break. LeBron's record is gonna probably have. to play as long yeah and not because. Kareem only played he played in 95 of. the game that's right LeBron has only. played in 90 of the game so somebody's. gonna have to play damn near 100 of the. time average 25 to 26 points a game and. played 20 years that's right and come in. at 18. yes see you can't do it at 21 22.
you gotta come in at 18 right but you. got to come in at 18 getting busy get. right you got to be good yes I mean like. I don't we're never going to see another. LeBron we're never going to see another. cream I mean it's just they just when. you got special guys like that who. um changed right game you're never going. to see another guy like that they asked. LeBron about his relationship with. Kareem and he said he doesn't have a. relationship and Kareem I think. sometimes Kareem Kareem is Kareem Kareem. has seen some things and cream was at.
the Forefront of the Civil Rights thing. so Kareem sees things a lot differently. than the athlete of today right and I. don't think that the relationship is. where it needs to be or where it should. be or where it could be. do if you could if do you have you. thought about like man I probably need. to get capped and LeBron together and. sit down and have a conversation because. it's not a good look because it seems. like Kareem is up is upset the guy's. gonna pass him in Lebron uh his record. and LeBron is like. because LeBron has always been great at. giving the old guys their credit yeah.
that's one thing about LeBron LeBron has. no problem yeah given to old guys. because a lot of times the old guys man. my generation was the greatest it ain't. nobody better but LeBron will pay homage. to his older guys do you wish LeBron and. Kareem had a better relationship for. sure I think and for them as two men. right and two black men you know who uh. have gone through a lot right right. LeBron both of them are similar in ways. Kareem came out the same way as LeBron.
all this hype right expectations and. they succeeded those expectations both. of them yes uh they changed the game for. Kareem they changed the league for. LeBron that big that strong that fast. you know they had to change things up. right because people couldn't deal with. them right same thing with Kareem so. they're different yet similar right and. I just hope to what you just said I. think one day that's going to happen you.
know and if I can play a part in that. right I would love to do that I think. let him pass him first right let that. happen right and let that soak in for a. minute and then put the two men together. because they gonna find out they're. similar they have more in similar more. in common than they think see both of. them if something happens in the world. they're the first ones the the comment. on it that's right yeah that's right and. so uh. I would love to make that happen let's.
let LeBron go through uh passing me. passing him and then I think we can put. that together what was to get LeBron you. mentioned that you know you good with. Rich and mad of the team uh Lebron what. were your pictures of LeBron to come to. the Lakers because at that point in time. you want y'all it was some lean years. right it was some lean years well well I. pitched him this way. you could be responsible for the. greatest franchise in the world okay. turning it around leading us back to a.
championship. and they gonna say you you did that. right and I said give me two years. I said we're going to win the. championship that third year right and. everything I told him happened right I. said we got some young pieces Clues. among them. they good they need Judo right to teach. them right and LeBron man got everybody. ready.
how he practice High to take care of his. body his mentality his approach to the. game also No Nonsense see we were. goofing off young guys didn't know how. to really be a pro yet you know Rando. all those guys LeBron came in. they all changed and so. I give LeBron a lot of credit for buying.
in and then I told him the billionaire. status and all the things you want to. accomplish off the court right here. and you can live here. see we have a lot of celebrities so they. gonna say hi right but they're going to. let you do your thing and. he said man I like what you're talking. about and sure enough everything I told. him happened and I'm so proud not just. of him but the job Rich Paul and. Mavericks has done as well the the I.
think the biggest incident that happened. thus far one of the biggest incidents is. the Draymond situation yeah Jordan pool. yeah um it was reported that you fought. a teammate. um but there's no video evidence to see. what happened I mean it could be hey we. just shoved he showed me I shoved him. but he punched me I punched him back. that's all speculation yeah but you know. video changes everything magic we saw. the incident with our own two eyes and I. think for most indication everybody will.
say Draymond was wrong in that situation. yeah oh he was definitely wrong. you can take it as far as pushing. grabbing the Jersey all that right. because that's what they were talking. about with me I'm never you ain't. putting them together punched anything. right you know but I grab you it's like. grab me bro we listen when you have a. dude like Michael Cooper guarding you. every single okay. you get tired of that right so yeah we. shot some elbows we did a lot of that. Isaiah and I right you know we got into.
it you know and we were great friends. but at the end of the day. I didn't punch him in the face right and. and then tried to do some more to him. right so Draymond knows better because. he's a great leader yeah he's a great. young man smart smart and then Jordan. Poole Draymond is just like you. got drafted late had to prove himself. because Draymond was mad he didn't go in. the first round right and he used that.
just say hey I'm gonna motivate myself. and I'm gonna show everybody right and. Jordan pool's the same way right so I. think that he probably. he's talking about well I don't regret. it yes he does right he does Draymond. regards it right because he's been a. good guy right. you're the trigger man you make. everything happens at Golden State. correct everybody gets shots Because of. You Draymond whether you setting a pick. or are you passing it to him right. correct so I think that if he could he.
would take that back right you know. because that's not who he is right not. with his teammates he loves his. teammates and and it changes the dynamic. that's right oh relationship in the. locker room oh I don't care it's never. good I'm not saying uh uh Magic. everybody or or friends in a locker room. but you have to be friendly yes that. changes Jordan pool and and Draymond. relationship is forever changed with. that one point oh don't let anybody I. get it we gonna be professional we're. gonna shoot our job is to win basketball. win basketball games but I can't look at.
you the same you don't look at me to say. no it's never going to be the same. you're friendly and the other thing. respect right. so I don't have to like you right but I. gotta respect I gotta respect you yeah. see so when you cross that line like you. said it's never going to be the same. right and both of them know that right. no matter what they say. and because also the families get. involved well I mean because. like imagine not everything is a mean. that's right and video not with the.
internet everything is there forever. that's right forever I mean we can go. back I mean the thing is we can go back. and we can see. the baby the the baby sky hook we can. see that we can see all everything. that's happened we're going to see that. with the same tenacity 20 years 30 years. from now oh yeah and. their camps are divided now too yes see. that's what people don't realize right. right so Jordan pool boys are saying oh. what what. oh I don't have no love for him either.
now right right and same thing like that. that's right that's right I think only. because Steph and Clay are sitting there. right and uh Steve is a amazing coach. and I think that they'll be okay right. because they understand championship and. winning and and the owners are great too. yeah so I think the franchise everybody. will keep them together. they will never be friends ever again. but they should be okay I don't think.
it'll stop them from reaching a. championship. how did that tape get out Magic. I mean me personally I think it got. leaked to make Draymond look bad. no you already know ain't no way I don't. believe there's some intern that went. wrong you already know how that tape got. man man come on everybody know everybody. let's this is common sense now okay you. taping now only employees are golden. state right right are in there right.
enough said enough said. Steph Curry. we've never seen a guy small Guys small. guys don't normally lead teams the. championship there's been very few. that's right when you talk about a guard. you talk about Isaiah that might be the. only guard. ever ever. I was Isaiah 6-1 so we got a guy Steph. Curry's probably six two uh that. that leads a team to a championship.
what what makes staff so unique. obviously we know he can shoot the ball. but it's got to be more than that oh. it's definitely more than that first of. all movement without the ball he's. Constable he's easy we've never seen. probably a. a basketball player in better condition. and. understand angles and how to come off. that screen right and also be on balance.
to still shoot right and he can shoot. off balance too right we've never seen. that before right and for him to be that. small but he can shoot from almost half. court right right yes and I'm he's not. throwing it right he's shooting it yes. we've never seen that before and then. he's a killer see people look at the. smile yes like they looked at me with my. smile oh I'm gonna kill you right right. I'm gonna try to take your head if you. hear the thing magic look at where you. came from Lansing Michigan dad worked uh.
the sanitation department so you grew up. hard that's right his dad was an NBA. player he got the smile he light skin Oh. that joke was soft he loved that you. know hey that's what they said too and. he showed him he said no no I'm not I'm. not soft and I'm here to show you right. what he did in that final was special. because. them first three games I I think he was. almost over 40 right I mean and just. lighting it up. but he shut everybody up right he said.
he couldn't be the finals MVP right he. couldn't lead his team right and I think. that made him feel good he already knew. he could do it he just showed everybody. he could do it right and that put him in. that rush Mount Rushmore of great. players right that's ever played in this. league so Steph. I love stuff because he's changed the. game in his way right three-point. shooter uh now kids want to be Steph. yeah no they don't care about Duncan now.
everybody. [Laughter]. that's right want to be Steph and. there's nothing wrong with that so and. he's a great family man. and he's tasteful with all his. commercials and his business I love him. on the court but I love him off the. court as well. what was it like Jordan played golf. before the game Jordan gonna get his. golf in he gonna be smoking on the city. going to be on the sticks what was magic.
pregame routine and how was he able to. do that man go to Atlantic City and. gamble the man could go out and be out. all night and come give you 50 because. he was the. strongest. not basketball player athlete I've ever. seen because he could do just what if I. tried to do that the old for 15. no. assist I'd be dragging and he tried to. get me to do it with him right or doing. the Dream Team.
MJ MJ I said what's up come on hang with. me I said Mike I can't hang at to four. o'clock. you have your drinks get up go play 18. rounds of golf sleep for an hour and. then come get 30 by halftime I can't do. that I can't do that I know who I am. right so my routine was I got to have my. music right I got to have quiet right. so I had my house quiet my car and let.
nobody ride with me. I had to get there three four hours. before you only had to be there hour and. a half right I had to get there way way. before so I can get ready because I had. so much I had to remember our plays. their plays make sure the guys were in. position and then I I would go out and. do my thing man and then I would always. get my rest see I was 150 in right I. didn't hang out during the season I. didn't do none of that right I got my. rest I was prepared mentally physically.
and. um so that's who I was you know and so. uh it paid off for me as well but Jordan. what he did paid off for him right right. and that's what made him Michael Jordan. Isaiah said that before he actually won. the finals when you and the Celtics were. playing in the finals he would come into. your locker room because he wanted to. see what it was like to be in the NBA. Finals what was the mindset of the guys. that were in that moment and it was it.
helped him be able to take that back to. his team right why y'all let that man in. there. I love Isaiah that was my man and uh he. was my best friend at that time so it. wasn't just in the locker room also we. were set up in my room or we'd go in the. lobby and just talk that that game in. the series so he was just man he was. just getting all this valuable. information both watching the game as. well as talking talking to me about it. my Approach how I saw it right and sure.
enough man when it was their turn wow he. took full advantage of it but give. Isaiah credit because a lot of dudes. today won't do that no see they want. people to let them though no there you. go right there pride and ego their Camp. their agent you know the team around us. because now everybody got a team right. we ran with I ran with one dude back in. the day you ran with one dude right and. now did the NBA Finals change you in.
Isaiah's relationship yeah yeah it did. and uh I'm sad that I have to see here. and say that but it did. um. both I'm sure his coach just like Pat. Riley wanted to know and my and my. teammates wanted to know if I had to am. I going to put him down you did and I. said yeah and I did and so that got them. say okay because he but he looked he. looked at you different oh for sure. because they were like okay you know you. guys had a great relationship you know.
you you hey bro hey stay healthy but he. came down the middle and you had you had. to let them know that's right my. teammates as well as the Pistons you had. to let him know that's right that I'm. here to win right and then he jumped up. swinging and I said no problem I had no. problem with that right you know and so. it took us a matter of fact the last. probably a couple years to amend. everything right and uh but man we had. some good times right and uh what a. great training partner and a great.
friend of our families right our. families were close too as well. um that's the one I regret you know you. regret some things in life. that was one of them. um I regret not calling LeBron telling. him I was stepping down right I really. regretted that right uh I owed him that. why did you step down. [Laughter]. Shannon it's just I had to I. I thought I had the power to do what I.
wanted to do right and the problem what. did you want to do I wanted to fire Luke. Walton you didn't feel that he was. capable of doing the job oh I knew he. wasn't right and so I said hey we got to. let him go he's. um he's not the right guy you know he's. not a great coach for the Laker team and. uh they wanted to keep him so I said. okay I already knew that uh I didn't. want to fracture the great relationship. I had with Genie bus right that's my. sister right so and and instead of me.
you know sitting there and I can never. be this dude to just sit and not say. what's on my mind right I said let me. just exit it's gonna be best for. everybody right. um and I felt some dudes wanted to be in. the seat that I had so hey you let them. have you go ahead you can have it I'm. I'm out uh and Jeannie and I are still. great friends and so it was the best. move and I'm glad I did it I regret not.
calling him right what. how different do you believe your MBA. career would have been in your life in. general had you not gotten the diagnosis. in 1991 because how many more years do. you feel you could have played at the. top of your game oh man I probably man I. would have played a lot more years and I. probably would have had been number one. in assists right right you said that. record out there and nobody ever oh for. sure for sure for sure and so and we. probably would have won a few more. championships right as well but you know.
the I one thing I'm good at is dealing. with the cars I'm dealt right and uh I. never looked back. I never been this dude you never asked a. question like that why me I how does. this happen well I did when it first. when it first happened when it first. happened you're like damn because I. remember I remember magic it was in 91. and we was coming out the practice field. and one of our reporters like Magic. Johnson is retiring and he was retiring. because of this I'm like huh what yeah. yeah yeah because it was so sudden yes. exactly and that's what happened and it.
hit me the same way it was so sudden uh. and man I was sick man for the for the. first two years that I'm not out there. right my guys I'm young and I had to be. depressed. dealing with this for sure publicly for. sure I'm not able to play basketball. people looking at me uh different dress. and and also the same people who used to. give you the dab and the love hug. because because I didn't understand. magic okay they said it was cool for him. to play on the Dream Team but they. didn't want you in the NBA yeah yeah all.
the guys yeah you know and so especially. Carl Malone he came out publicly with it. now I just played with you right in the. dream team in the Dream Team I practice. against you every single day right and. now you don't want to play with me I. mean I'm sorry I guess you'll be right I. say wow. you could have just said that to me. right you can say that to me privately. that's right and we I'd have been cool. with that no question about it so I said. you know what I said I don't wanna. I don't want to damage the league I.
don't want if they if they gonna look at. me that way I won't come back right we. have some work to do so I started. educating everybody about the disease. and everything and then I finally came. back I played what half the season a. little bit later 96. and I went out my way right and then. they wanted me to come back and I said I. think it was not well 96 yeah and I said. I'm good bro and so that's when I. retired just like you and I now I'm so.
proud of you into your second life and. you reinvented yourself and now you're a. businessman doing great things that's. what it's all about right and so that's. what I decided to do just get into my. business life one more thing I want to. ask you about this because I really. think you can help a lot of men a lot of. people in my community. your youngest son chose to live his life. as a gay man that's right. and I remember I heard somewhere where. you said well it was you you kind of saw.
things that things that normal boys like. to do he kind of didn't want to do it. right so you kind of had an England but. you wanted to hear him say yes right you. didn't want to form you're like nah I. don't this is not what I want to do how. was that conversation and then how were. you able to get past that because like. they say there's really no Manual of how. to be a parent because you're going to. be throwing curveballs that you don't. have any idea how to hit that's right. but you just got to sit there and say. okay let's work through this how are you. able to to have a conversation with him. said EJ you're my son I love you if this.
is the life you want to live live it to. the fullest well Shannon that's a. excellent question and how you phrased. it too and put it together. um. in the beginning I was like any other. day oh I'm gonna get him in sports right. you know and so did he ever like sports. no. and so when we start first soccer and. then football. he like and then you know I saw early on. he's playing with dolls right like to. play dress-up but then if I come in he.
would hide all that right right but I. saw it right now and so. um. I think as he got older and older you. start seeing it but he never said. anything right and so I think he was. trying to keep it from me right and then. finally you know he felt strong enough. that he could finally tell me right and. so he made me change right and so it. wasn't he had to adjust I had to adjust. correct and uh but as Mom no yes Mom.
knew so y'all okay okay okay all right. so cookie knew and so but she never told. you that she was waiting on him to tell. me right right so. and I finally told him I said let me. tell you something you my son I love you. yeah I don't care you won't be a gay man. I'm supporting that right I'm supporting. that I'm supporting you. and when he finally uh announced it to.
the world and see I saw all the letters. that came in around the world that he. affected all these other young people. who wanted to come out to their parents. right and gave them the strength to do. it I said wow so now we're like best of. friends right and I tell him all the. time I'm so proud of you you know live. your life just like I I'm living my life. so live your life love who you want to. love right dad is going to support you.
all the way right so it's really. beautiful and guess what he cried he. needed to hear that right because he was. waiting because some of his friends. didn't get that support right right but. he wanted he needed joking affirmation. that's right he needed confirmation from. his dad that's right his mom yeah Mom I. know that but I need Urban Magic Johnson. yes I need him to say it's okay that's. right and we all got to love our. children no matter what they decide. right that's right you a lot of parents.
but see that's why they'd be behaving. like they do at soccer games and. basketball games the football game. because they're living their life. through the child yeah you don't have. your life that's right that's right that. can't live his life whatever whatever he. or she wants to be or do in their life. if they ain't harming nobody do that yes. and support them because they need that. that's what they want to that's what. they need they need that they need to. know that you love them and that you. support them whatever decision they make. whoever they decide to love or like you. got to support that and so that's what. I've been able to do so I'm glad you.
brought it up because a lot of times in. the black community even those who are. Christian or go to church I go to church. too I'm a Christian man too but I love. my son I ain't I'm stepping away from my. son exactly again we're best of friends. I support not only him Andre Elise and. my my daughter as well and they all are. tight right you can't say nothing wrong. or about my my son in front of Elisa she. attack you. see the business imagine I'm Gonna Get. You Out of This imagine the business.
side of magic were you always into this. or with this once 91 happened you said. okay I can't do basketball now I need to. transition to find something to do with. my time that basketball used to occupy. is that where the Magic Johnson brand. business came came about or were you. always dabbling yeah it was before that. I was educating myself okay with mentors. okay you know Dr Jerry Buster later on. or the Lakers became my first Mentor. Peter Gruber all these guys uh you know.
Howard Schultz and and on and on and on. so uh two guys back in Lansing Michigan. Greg Eaton and Joe Ferguson showed me. that black men could own businesses and. buildings I was like what. we can do that wow that really inspired. me and changed my dreams okay but I Was. preparing before I announced I had HIV. that just jump started me in 91 and so. that's when I said okay now I can uh. full attention on the business and.
starting it my journey and sure enough I. just took off from there and I've been. in it ever since and so uh I've been. blessed man and. I did something a lot of guys remember. it was an Unwritten rule you couldn't be. befriend the owner right so all of them. would look at the Lakers looking at me. like oh they had a meeting on me right. come here man you can't be Jerry bus. friend I said okay I'm gonna put it to. y'all like this you're a millionaire he.
a billionaire I'm going with him. I can't be your friend. and that's what I did so I said y'all. can be mad if you want that has nothing. to do with my job right I do my job and. I do it well well ain't nothing gonna. change right but when he say come to. lunch and dinner come to my house play. pool and I'm soaking you know all that. knowledge and you're crazy you can't.
give it to me right right but I can get. it from him because I'm going somewhere. Magic Johnson wants to own the NBA team. I do just the right situation. but I'm such a Laker fan I don't know I. can do it I don't think you can do it me. either I just I've had four. opportunities right and I turned them. all down right Joe Lake up and Peter. Gruber sat down lunch with me in Santa. Monica. we want you to be our partners with the. Golden State Warriors.
I love both men right I just couldn't do. it I was a liquor. I love the lady and the thing I also. magic is that your relationship you are. people person and if somebody comes to. you you're going to give them knowledge. and people say well hold on how you. gonna get somebody knowledge you own. this up and you helping them yep yep so. I don't I don't think it's going you can. own a NFL team or a baseball team but. basketball Your Love of the Game you. will not hoard that knowledge yeah so. ever and all of them come to me still.
and I I help all of them out I that's. just who I am just who you are right. right and so even uh knowledge on the. show every single day you pass that. knowledge on the Skip and all of us. right right and it's beautiful to see. and here right and so. um listen man this has been amazing we. could go for another two three hours I. appreciate magic I appreciate it I. appreciate your time because I know how. busy you are we were talking about fair. about you know hey I got to go here here. here I'm here for a couple of days I go.
there there but for you to take time out. of your busy schedule and sit down and. give us an opportunity so all my. listeners at Club Shay because I'm sure. they're going to hear some things that. you probably haven't shared before or. haven't shared in a very long time so I. really appreciate it bro anytime you. know for you anytime appreciate it thank. you for having me in clubs. right here man oh we doing it baby see. two. two please still doing it yeah still. doing it we talked to talk we understand. the same way right that's right.
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